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Jail Blazers (w/ Damon Stoudamire) · Stugotz and Company

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that Uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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Speaker 1: The rex was not chasing the jeep.
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Speaker 2: Murray, Murray, you there. You love sandwiches. Huh, Let's go
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Speaker 2: to uh eighty he is bo wow that Prime Time.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I had a crush on Betty Rubbell.
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Speaker 1: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
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Speaker 1: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
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Speaker 1: He caught them the game last night, although they won
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Speaker 1: the game.
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Speaker 3: You're listening to ste Gottson Company.
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Speaker 1: Ste Gottson Company, presented by Fandel and the FanDuel Sportsbook.
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Speaker 1: I have a mystery topic. Is he and Taylor will
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Speaker 1: not tell me about this mystery topic. We'll get to
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Speaker 1: it in just a second. Damon Stottameyer is going to
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Speaker 1: join us later in this episode Untold jail Blazers. That
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Speaker 1: documentary comes out today on Netflix. Very excited to talk
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Speaker 1: to him. But first, a mystery topic. What do you are? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's a bit of a roller coaster here.
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Speaker 4: So it's a bit of a moral dilemma because I
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Speaker 4: saw a headline where Dick Vitel. The headline reads ESPN's
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Speaker 4: Dick Vitel to keep fighting after melanoma diagnosis, and obviously
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Speaker 4: he's had his issues with cancer, but currently he announced
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Speaker 4: that as Melanova is lung and liver cavity and be
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Speaker 4: starting immino therapy soon. So that part obviously very serious.
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Speaker 4: Don't want you to be joking about that. However, there's
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Speaker 4: another situation revolving Dick Vital that is so funny.
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Speaker 3: I don't think we can avoid talking about it, Okay, I.
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Speaker 1: Mean this is not maybe not today to discuss funny
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Speaker 1: topics related to Dick Vital. We hope that he's well,
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Speaker 1: we hope he gets better, and we love Dicky v
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Speaker 1: Here we do. But go ahead, go ahead, I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to stop you.
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Speaker 4: I'll even throw in a quote that Dick Vitel says,
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Speaker 4: the best news I can share today is I feel fantastic. Okay, right,
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Speaker 4: So what helps us feel fantastic if we can have
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Speaker 4: a little laugh every once in a while. Yes, and
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Speaker 4: so Taylor, do you want to take it from here?
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Speaker 4: I have the tweet in front of me, but if
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Speaker 4: you want to read it, please do.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So Stu, you know the Yukon guard Braylan Mullens, the
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Speaker 6: one who hit the shot against Duke.
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Speaker 1: Uh yes, I am familiar with Brandon Mullens.
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Speaker 3: Yes, no Braylin, but Okaylan.
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Speaker 1: Clever Braylan, Brandon Tomato Tomato, I mean Jesus, go ahead.
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Speaker 6: So Dicky V got got by a fake Twitter account
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Speaker 6: that tweeted Yukon guard Braylan Mullins will hold the first
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Speaker 6: ever nil auction to determine what his next team will be,
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Speaker 6: with the minimum bid starting at six million dollars. Mullins
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Speaker 6: intends to return to college and wants to be with
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Speaker 6: the team that is willing to.
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Speaker 1: Pay him the most. Mm hm.
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Speaker 6: Dicky V tweeted at this account and said this is
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Speaker 6: college sickening. NC double A must do something about the
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Speaker 6: chaos going on. How in the world can they write
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Speaker 6: all about student athletes in their NC double A manual
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Speaker 6: that is a joke. Put some rules together to end
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Speaker 6: this wild wild West.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with Dicky V even though it's a
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Speaker 1: fake account, but go ahead.
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, nil auction sounds like a great idea.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking.
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Speaker 4: About an upgrade from just having a few hats on
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Speaker 4: the table and a player.
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Speaker 3: Just picking one.
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Speaker 4: You got an auctioneer going off on Braylen Mullins, I
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Speaker 4: got six million, six millionaires. I've million are like that
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Speaker 4: would be amazing. Imagine the older coaches just not being
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Speaker 4: able to keep up and losing on a player because
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Speaker 4: he doesn't understand what the auctioneer is saying.
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Speaker 3: Yes, but here's my favorite part of the stories.
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Speaker 1: Dude, they talk very quickly.
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Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead, right underneath the post.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's something that says the post is from a
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Speaker 4: satire account that states in its bio everything I do
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Speaker 4: is satire. No such an il auction by Brayln Mullins
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Speaker 4: had reported, right, so is he.
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Speaker 6: The reason why they added that note is because it
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Speaker 6: got Dicky V. Dicky V got got before that note
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Speaker 6: got posted, and then somebody called out Dicky V for
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Speaker 6: getting got by a satire account, which a whole different story.
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Speaker 6: I would pay for a version of Twitter that didn't
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Speaker 6: have the satire accounts. I don't think they're funny. I
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Speaker 6: don't think they're particularly clever. I did laugh at this one,
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Speaker 6: so it's a bit of a catch twenty two.
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Speaker 1: Well, you laughed at this one because Dicky V fell
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Speaker 1: for it, right, That's the reason whatever an old person,
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Speaker 1: especially one battling cancer, falls for it. We start laughing
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Speaker 1: at him. I mean I've fallen for him before. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you send me them all the time. Yes, I'm like, Taylor,
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Speaker 1: let's start with this today. He's like, it's a fucking
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Speaker 1: parody account.
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Speaker 3: What are you doing it?
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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes is not batting third for the Texas Rangers tonight.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Andy Reid admits he should have stuck with Alex Smith.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, Taylor, get the sound.
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Speaker 4: Wait a second, Taylor, you now need to send everybody
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Speaker 4: or just tell us the best of the best of
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Speaker 4: those that Stugats has sent you, because I want to
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Speaker 4: do a show where we respond to nothing but his
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Speaker 4: fake Twitter account.
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Speaker 1: That he got got by. I'm team Dicky V. I mean,
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Speaker 1: leave him alone, jesus.
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Speaker 6: I'm also team Dicky V. Where if you it doesn't
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Speaker 6: seem like a one on Team Dicky V. If you're
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Speaker 6: out here and your Twitter accounts premise is fooling people
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Speaker 6: like Dicky V, I want you off the platform. I'm
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Speaker 6: there's no place for you on my version of Twitter.
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Speaker 6: But somebody called out Dicky V and said, hey, Dicky V,
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Speaker 6: just let you know that's a satire account. He said,
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Speaker 6: it still is what I said, chaos galore.
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Speaker 3: Rules are needed.
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Speaker 6: Can't the NCAA see what is going on? No stability
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Speaker 6: at all, and the leader is talking about expanding the tournament,
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Speaker 6: screwing around with the one magical thing in college hoops,
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Speaker 6: get after the real problems. To Dicky V's point, and
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Speaker 6: to Dicky V's defense, an nil auction is not the
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Speaker 6: craziest concept.
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Speaker 4: It's that yeah, and this account Shane Tuttle with a
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Speaker 4: blue check mark is there's nothing about that that would
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Speaker 4: suggest anything that it's a fake at Shane Tuttle NC
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Speaker 4: double A.
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Speaker 3: He's real to be.
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Speaker 1: The only issue is with an auction besides it just unseemly,
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Speaker 1: but the the issues like what if the player doesn't
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Speaker 1: want to go to the school who bids the.
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Speaker 6: Most, it would have It would have to be a
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Speaker 6: situation where the player allows certain teams came to set auction.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, their finalist comes in and then they finally bid
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Speaker 4: for him. It could be there's no limit to the
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Speaker 4: number of finalists, but on the finalists come in.
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Speaker 1: So there are five hats. These are the five teams
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Speaker 1: that are allowed to bid on this particular guy. He
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Speaker 1: has given them permission to put him up for auction,
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Speaker 1: which is again unseemly. It seems ridiculous. It's twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 4: Every time they bid you raise the hat. Instead of
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Speaker 4: a number, you just raise your school hat. Seven million
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Speaker 4: for Brayley Mullins.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but you're worried that an old coach in the
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Speaker 1: you know, as they're bidding and the auction off of
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Speaker 1: a player, one coach might not be able to keep
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Speaker 1: up with the auctioneer. The guy who's talking will definitely
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Speaker 1: be a code made. He might he might raise his
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Speaker 1: left arm instead of his right arm. The left arm
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Speaker 1: means you're out. The right arm means you want to
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Speaker 1: bid more.
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Speaker 3: It's a disaster, dude, that I want to see it.
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Speaker 4: There'll be a coach who raises his hat to scratch
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Speaker 4: his head because he forgett that that counts eight million
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Speaker 4: dollars for a terrible player.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, confused to talk about made for TV. All
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's been in a million more than
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Speaker 1: he wanted to do in a particular player, simply because
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Speaker 1: he had an inch.
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Speaker 3: A great idea.
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Speaker 1: They should be it should be made for television.
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Speaker 3: It should I think, Dicky V. I agree with Taylor.
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Speaker 4: Where there should be a pay version that takes us
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Speaker 4: back to old Twitter. It's just like, hey, you want
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Speaker 4: to go back to the way it was. Ten dollars
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Speaker 4: a month will clean all this shit up.
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Speaker 1: Great.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't want Dicky V to subscribe for that.
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Speaker 4: I need him to stay in the wild Wild West
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Speaker 4: because I need to see how many times you can
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Speaker 4: get got.
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Speaker 1: You need me to stay in the wild wild West
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Speaker 1: because you want to see how many times someone's gonna
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Speaker 1: get me. It happens every day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 4: For that point, I would not want you to subscribe either.
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Speaker 4: I definitely want Taylor for the radio show today. If
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Speaker 4: you have three or four of those maybe that we
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Speaker 4: haven't brought up, that would be gold.
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Speaker 6: The NFL is considering dropping the Jets as an NFL friend.
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Speaker 6: Those are the type of stories.
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Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, I sent them one of those. There
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Speaker 1: was one where Lawrence Taylor was considering it comeback, I
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Speaker 1: said to the tailor, saying he'd have twenty sacks in
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Speaker 1: today's NFL. I mean, I love it.
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Speaker 3: You just turned it into your own personal playground. It
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Speaker 3: doesn't matter if it's real or not. I'll have fun
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Speaker 3: with that thought.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's what Dicky v Listen, whether it's
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Speaker 1: real or not, he stayed in trench. And that's what
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Speaker 1: I appreciate about one Dick Vitale. He don't give a bleep.
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Speaker 4: But even when the rest of the world knows I'm wrong,
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Speaker 4: I'm not wrong, yes, but he has.
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Speaker 1: The ultimate trump card. You know that, right, which is
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Speaker 1: I'm fighting cancer.
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Speaker 4: Oh right, I forgot about that by the story of
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Speaker 4: my bad Yeah, he can say anything.
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Speaker 1: Well he can't because he just I guess he can't. Right.
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Speaker 1: Is here You into the playing games tonight, are you?
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Speaker 1: Because I can't stand this play intoward. It drives me
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Speaker 1: up the wall. These are teams that have no business
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Speaker 1: like they're gonna play for a spot in the playoffs
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Speaker 1: and once they get to the playoffs, they'll be done
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Speaker 1: in four games. Like I don't want to see it.
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Speaker 1: I don't care about it.
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Speaker 4: I am intrigued by this Miami Charlotte matchup because I
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Speaker 4: do want to see what the reaction is if Miami
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Speaker 4: knocks out America's team. I'm telling you, man, the amount
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Speaker 4: of Charlotte Hornets discussion is disproportionate to their final record.
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Speaker 4: Like when it comes to the amount of talk and
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Speaker 4: what they've done, but you know, they've been fun.
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Speaker 3: Late in the season.
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Speaker 4: That's starting lineup with Diabate in there has been very good.
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Speaker 4: But it's also like the postseason, right, I don't want
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Speaker 4: to say the playoffs, it's the postseason and this group
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Speaker 4: hasn't sniffed the postseason in their entire existence. And so
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Speaker 4: in a one game scenario, can the Miami Heat go
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Speaker 4: in there and beat them just like they did Taylor
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Speaker 4: when the Hornets were on their run and Miami went
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Speaker 4: in there and Tyler Hero had a huge game in
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Speaker 4: one Yeah, I could see that happening, and then I
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Speaker 4: could see Miami losing to Orlando in the next game.
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Speaker 4: But it is, it is pretty interesting. I think there'll
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Speaker 4: be a lot of eyes on this LaMelo Ball Konkok
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Speaker 4: Nipple duo tonight and we'll see what happens. But I'm
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Speaker 4: not like crazy excited about it. I would say that
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Speaker 4: Lasers one is actually a more interesting game.
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Speaker 1: Of the teams that are in the play in tournament,
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Speaker 1: is Charlotte the one team you could see getting out
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Speaker 1: of that tournament, getting into the playoffs and making some
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Speaker 1: sort of run. Or Charlotte can't do that.
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Speaker 4: Philly's in the play in, right, I think Philly is
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Speaker 4: probably the team that I could see making the deepest
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Speaker 4: run and if they're healthy and get out of the
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Speaker 4: play in. But no, I don't see the the experience,
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Speaker 4: the lack of experience just not being a problem. Like
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Speaker 4: I think LaMelo Ball in a playoff setting is gonna
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Speaker 4: have his lunch, you know, taken from him. Is that
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Speaker 4: the saying because I just don't think he's ready for
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Speaker 4: the type of defense you're gonna see from a team
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Speaker 4: that's prepared to play the same team, you know, four
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Speaker 4: to seven straight games.
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Speaker 1: What is the saying there?
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Speaker 3: Eat your lunch?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I was I was looking at a
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Speaker 1: lunch money. Yeah, to take your lunch money.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think from our era, it's take your lunch money, right.
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Speaker 3: I don't like take you lunch.
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Speaker 1: No, I've never said to someone or no one has
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Speaker 1: ever said to me, Hey, I'm taking your lunch money. Like,
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Speaker 1: I'm not that way, right, So how would you say it?
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Speaker 1: I understand what you were trying to say. I don't
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Speaker 1: think we got it right, though.
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Speaker 3: I just let's sitting in there for a little longer.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love getting bogged down on semantics on important semantics.
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Speaker 3: H somebody's lunch. I'm looking it up right now.
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Speaker 1: I have to.
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Speaker 3: It's gonna drive you crazy all day.
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Speaker 4: I mean, taking someone's lunch from a workplace for it
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Speaker 4: is a severe violation.
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Speaker 6: I think it's eat someone's lunch, is it.
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Speaker 1: I think it's eat someone's lunch to.
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Speaker 4: Ask yes, to eat someone's lunch to outdo or defeat
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Speaker 4: someone or something very badly. Okay, eat someone's lunch, which
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Speaker 4: is not what I would have guessed to be honest.
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Speaker 3: That's got to be updated because there was not.
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Speaker 4: There were not people saying he's eating his lunch when
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Speaker 4: I was in tenth grade.
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Speaker 1: No, but maybe you ate him up for lunch. Maybe
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Speaker 1: that was right.
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Speaker 4: Again, I remember being a bully and taking someone's lunch money,
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Speaker 4: so I think it's different.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, right, you were never a bully, I mean,
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Speaker 1: come on.
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Speaker 4: You, Of all people, I got into one fight. Somebody
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Speaker 4: threw a punch.
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Speaker 3: It landed.
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Speaker 4: I was like, I don't like that, and then they
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Speaker 4: just separated us, and I was like, okay, that's the
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Speaker 4: last fight I'm gonna.
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Speaker 1: Get in to hit someone. Hit you you hit the floor.
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Speaker 4: I just I just thanked the lord that I had
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Speaker 4: people there to break up the fight.
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Speaker 1: Maybe, yes, so the play toward him it to be.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm railing against it. I know you love
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Speaker 1: the NBA and the NBA playoffs. I just don't see
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Speaker 1: the point of us having to wait a week to
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Speaker 1: see the real playoff teams play in actual series.
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Speaker 4: Well, the funny part is it was supposed to be
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Speaker 4: brought in to help limit tanking, right, because there's more
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Speaker 4: chances to make the postseason, so there's more teams that
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Speaker 4: are fighting to win, and yet it's created the largest
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Speaker 4: like sort of line of the delineation or whatever, because
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Speaker 4: the difference between the playing teams and the tankers are
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Speaker 4: just so obvious, like there's like there's more fifty five
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Speaker 4: lost teams than ever, and the teams that are in
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Speaker 4: tenth place, like the Miami Heat, feel like they accomplished
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Speaker 4: something when they would have been trying anyway, Like they
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Speaker 4: wouldn't have been tanking anyway, And so it did nothing
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Speaker 4: for tanking.
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Speaker 3: It actually made tanking worse.
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Speaker 1: Is Spoke gonna do this whole thing like he did
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Speaker 1: last year where they're packing for like a week or
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Speaker 1: two weeks or whatever. They have to pack their bags
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Speaker 1: and are coming home, They're going to make it to
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Is going to do that again because it
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Speaker 1: worked last year.
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Speaker 4: I mean, we've talked about this before, like he doesn't
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Speaker 4: have the crazy on the roster, He's the only one
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Speaker 4: that provides the crazies.
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Speaker 3: So I just don't think any of those gimmis are
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Speaker 3: going to work.
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Speaker 4: They're gonna play the same soft basketball that they've played
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Speaker 4: the second half of the season, and they're probably gonna
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Speaker 4: get their asses handed to them.
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Speaker 3: They the win that they had.
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Speaker 4: In Charlotte, they played great, and Tyler Hero played great,
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Speaker 4: and LaMelo and Conkinipple didn't play great. I don't think
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Speaker 4: you're gonna get that type of same response from the
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Speaker 4: Hornets tonight.
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Speaker 6: All Right, A friend text me and was like, what
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Speaker 6: a massive night it is for you? And I'm trying
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Speaker 6: to think of my schedule. I'm like, I mean, the
14:13
Speaker 6: Yankees have like a second game against the Angels. I
14:16
Speaker 6: don't have any softball games or any intramural games. Why
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Speaker 6: is it such a big night for me? And he's like,
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Speaker 6: you were one of the first people that started championing
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Speaker 6: how good the Hornets were now and now they're in
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Speaker 6: the playing game, and I was like, Buddy, I don't
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Speaker 6: really care that much about it.
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Speaker 1: I just I was doing a thing. I was full time.
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Speaker 3: I was just right, that's gonna be the take that
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Speaker 3: sticks to you.
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Speaker 1: I don't think so, Taylor, You're in the clear. Not
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Speaker 1: a big game now, but for now, it's one of
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Speaker 1: his takes. Yes, it is a big night for Taylor.
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Speaker 3: Listen.
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Speaker 1: Whether he meant it or not, Lord knows. I have
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Speaker 1: said a million things on the radio over twenty years
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Speaker 1: of doing this, and I have commented on games that
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Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about.
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Speaker 3: Is he?
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Speaker 1: I am telling you that right now. But those takes
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Speaker 1: stick to you. And I was doing it in the
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Speaker 1: spirit of just filling time, just because I had to
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Speaker 1: say stuff, just because it was someone threw me the
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Speaker 1: ball and I needed to say something and something came
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Speaker 1: out of my mouth, and whatever it was, it stuck
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Speaker 1: with me forever. And so like Kevin Durant, now what
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Speaker 1: he titles, I mean.
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Speaker 3: So is he?
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Speaker 6: I believe. In early February, we had Bomani Jones on
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Speaker 6: and I asked, Baumani, Bomani, are the Hornets going for it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: And he he laughed me out of this podcast. Then
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Speaker 6: like three weeks later, the Hornets kept winning and I
15:31
Speaker 6: turn on the right time with Bomani Jones and what
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Speaker 6: do I see Bomani leading with him saying he believes
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Speaker 6: the Charlotte Hornets are actually pretty good.
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Speaker 3: Ah did credit you?
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 3: Going for it.
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Speaker 1: So it's a big night for Bomani as well.
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Speaker 3: I mean, dude, I will say this, it does.
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Speaker 4: The matchups that it would set up would be pretty good.
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Speaker 4: The sixer Celtics if that happens in the first round,
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Speaker 4: that's a classic rivalry. And it is in Philadelphia that
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Speaker 4: when they're healthy, they're going to scare their shit out
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Speaker 4: of everybody they play, and that includes the Celtics in
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Speaker 4: the first round. And then, assuming the Hornets can win,
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Speaker 4: Hornets Detroit is a great first round matchup because people
16:19
Speaker 4: are gonna think, hey, those pistons might not be sharp,
16:22
Speaker 4: Kate Cunningham coming back from collapsed lung. Maybe America's team
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Speaker 4: can win that. And then in the West, I don't
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Speaker 4: know which one you like better. The idea of the
16:32
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City Thunder playing against the Clippers and Shay Gildas
16:35
Speaker 4: Alexander's old team and the guy basically in Kawhi Leonard
16:38
Speaker 4: that started alation.
16:40
Speaker 3: Or against the Warriors.
16:42
Speaker 4: You know that history between the Thunder and the war
16:44
Speaker 4: and now you have a healthy Steph Curry like that.
16:46
Speaker 4: Those are going to be two pretty great one to
16:48
Speaker 4: eight matchups if they end up that way. Oklahoma City
16:51
Speaker 4: against either of those two teams, and then the Detroit
16:53
Speaker 4: Pistons against the Charlotte Hornets.
16:55
Speaker 3: Cross your fingers that those are the matchups that happened.
16:57
Speaker 1: So Taylor, let's say it right now. You need to
16:59
Speaker 1: get ahead of Amani Jones because he's onto you. Okay,
17:02
Speaker 1: so you need to say that Charlotte, if you dare
17:04
Speaker 1: let them into the playoffs, they are going to beat
17:06
Speaker 1: the Pistons in the opening round of the NBA Playoffs.
17:09
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm behind you. I have the Hornets
17:12
Speaker 1: in six games. Okay.
17:13
Speaker 4: Wow, let's get Taylor giving a big Charlotte Hornets take
17:17
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17:19
Speaker 4: they're gonna get past the first round.
17:21
Speaker 3: We send that to Bow and then we wait.
17:24
Speaker 4: He waits to see him Bo decides he's gonna steal
17:26
Speaker 4: that take, or he's gonna take it a step further.
17:28
Speaker 3: If he ignored it out together.
17:29
Speaker 1: He's so much better and smarter than us had all
17:32
Speaker 1: of this that he's gonna win. It doesn't matter. He's
17:34
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17:36
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17:40
Speaker 1: winning the title. He already took it.
17:41
Speaker 3: I mean, yet he's stealing takes from Taylor.
17:43
Speaker 6: No, I don't want to say. I would never accuse
17:46
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17:49
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17:53
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17:56
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17:58
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18:01
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Speaker 1: Right, But Bamani stealing it makes it very very special.
18:04
Speaker 6: Not stealing, not stealing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we heard what you said, but Bamani taking it.
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Speaker 1: I called him a thief. No one else but Bamani
18:12
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18:16
Speaker 3: You don't want me taking your take and using it.
18:18
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Speaker 1: Very excited about this. Damon Stottammeier here to preview the
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20:32
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Speaker 1: excited to watch this documentary. Very excited to talk to
20:40
Speaker 1: Damon Stodameier about this documentary is He started by saying,
20:44
Speaker 1: you're the rare NBA player that never ages. What is
20:47
Speaker 1: the key to not aging?
20:48
Speaker 8: I mean, Jesus, you know you gonna get gray.
20:54
Speaker 5: So I got a little gray.
20:55
Speaker 8: But just stay stress free, you know, try to keep
20:59
Speaker 8: life asad whereas you can't. Let look, keep life way
21:02
Speaker 8: simpler than what I did way back then when this
21:05
Speaker 8: documentary come out?
21:08
Speaker 1: How did this documentary come together? Sammon?
21:12
Speaker 8: It's been in the works for for years, you know,
21:16
Speaker 8: and it finally came to And I think, like I
21:20
Speaker 8: always say, like, you know, and you know everybody, I
21:23
Speaker 8: should say everybody, but you know, in talking with the fellas,
21:27
Speaker 8: you know, they didn't they didn't want to put everybody
21:32
Speaker 8: on the documentary that actually I felt like needed to
21:35
Speaker 8: be on the documentary. But I was like, in order
21:38
Speaker 8: for something to be seen from both sides, you got
21:41
Speaker 8: to have an antagonist and protagonist. And that's just kind
21:43
Speaker 8: of the way it is. So you know, the people
21:47
Speaker 8: that were on on the on the doc you know, uh,
21:50
Speaker 8: the John Gonzano, you know Colin Cowhard who was actually
21:56
Speaker 8: you know, most people wouldn't notice he he was reporting
21:59
Speaker 8: in Portland before he actually took off, took off and
22:03
Speaker 8: became who he became. And so you know, then you
22:07
Speaker 8: have Bob witst Bob Witson is on there, and he's
22:10
Speaker 8: kind of talking about you know, uh his you know,
22:14
Speaker 8: his thoughts in this process of trying to put the
22:17
Speaker 8: team together and how he built it, uh, from when
22:19
Speaker 8: he took from when he took the job.
22:21
Speaker 5: And he'll talk about those things.
22:22
Speaker 8: And it's funny because when you see the documentary, I
22:26
Speaker 8: will I won't say who it is, but it's going
22:29
Speaker 8: to be interesting if people when the when the documentary
22:32
Speaker 8: first opens up, if people will understand the guy in
22:36
Speaker 8: the frame because he does not have hair now and
22:41
Speaker 8: so and and and he and he is a owner
22:44
Speaker 8: of an NBA team not named not named Paul Allen.
22:50
Speaker 8: Then so it's gonna be interesting that people catch on
22:53
Speaker 8: to that, really because if you catch on to it,
22:55
Speaker 8: you're gonna be like, yeah, okay, now now, but yeah,
23:01
Speaker 8: so no, it's so you know that that was that
23:04
Speaker 8: was the thought process and everything, and so you know,
23:07
Speaker 8: I thought that it was I thought that it was
23:09
Speaker 8: really well put together. I thought that it represented that moment,
23:12
Speaker 8: and I thought they did a good job of keeping
23:15
Speaker 8: the main thing, the main thing, and not getting off track,
23:17
Speaker 8: but essentially talking about you know, some the issues, some
23:21
Speaker 8: of the issues off the floor, but then framing the
23:23
Speaker 8: team within that you know, four to five year window
23:26
Speaker 8: from ninety nine to oh four, and you know, just
23:29
Speaker 8: talking about that and how that window and you guys
23:31
Speaker 8: know you keep up with sports obviously, you know, and.
23:34
Speaker 5: You know how that window closes. Man.
23:35
Speaker 8: People don't understand, I think the professional sports, how quickly
23:38
Speaker 8: that window closes.
23:39
Speaker 5: You have a window two, three, four years. Man.
23:41
Speaker 8: If it don't happen, you gotta you gotta do some
23:43
Speaker 8: other things. And Bob talks about that as well.
23:46
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see it. Uh just comes out today.
23:48
Speaker 4: I watched the lamar Odin one and it was spectacular.
23:51
Speaker 4: That was another untold one. There have been some sports
23:54
Speaker 4: documentaries in the past that aren't the best, so you're
23:56
Speaker 4: obviously saying this one.
23:57
Speaker 3: Seems pretty thorough and pretty fair. Is there anything missing?
24:01
Speaker 4: Would you say, is there anything that you would have
24:02
Speaker 4: liked to have been in there?
24:05
Speaker 5: No, I just know I think that it. I think
24:07
Speaker 5: that it just it.
24:09
Speaker 8: The best thing to me is that again it's stuck
24:12
Speaker 8: to the main the main thing.
24:16
Speaker 5: You know and and and it and it, and I
24:18
Speaker 5: think that it.
24:19
Speaker 8: Really will fill in the blanks for a lot of
24:21
Speaker 8: people from from across the country that maybe wanted to know, man,
24:26
Speaker 8: what was going on in Portland at that time, because
24:28
Speaker 8: obviously there was that wasn't social media. Uh We're we're
24:32
Speaker 8: a one we were a one paper town. Uh, we
24:36
Speaker 8: were a one you know, a one radio station town
24:40
Speaker 8: at that time. And so from from people like yourselves
24:44
Speaker 8: who are picking this up, you know, you're only seeing
24:46
Speaker 8: it and hearing it from one perspective. But what happens
24:50
Speaker 8: is right, is a lot of times that even when
24:52
Speaker 8: guys had moved on, you know, and went to different teams,
24:56
Speaker 8: you know, as you got to know those guys, and
24:59
Speaker 8: even myself and Rashid and bond to everybody else that
25:01
Speaker 8: moved on, you know, you you you find out the
25:04
Speaker 8: guys weren't what it was portrayed. And I just think
25:07
Speaker 8: that the biggest thing about the documentary is just remember
25:10
Speaker 8: the setting. You're talking twenty plus years ago, you're talking
25:14
Speaker 8: a different time.
25:15
Speaker 5: You're talking about even Portland itself.
25:18
Speaker 8: And I'm from Portland, and I think that, like my perspective,
25:21
Speaker 8: I've always tried to give a perspective of Portland. You know,
25:25
Speaker 8: I think even my perspective is is even different now
25:28
Speaker 8: because the city has grown and it is different than
25:31
Speaker 8: you know, obviously it was in the early two thousands.
25:34
Speaker 4: You know what's weird, David is I graduated high school
25:37
Speaker 4: ninety five. You and I similar age group, and so
25:40
Speaker 4: I don't associate you with the quote unquote jail blazers
25:44
Speaker 4: like or Rashid for that matter, because you know, once
25:47
Speaker 4: you separate, like you separate the player from the activities
25:50
Speaker 4: that were going on, it's it's like, Okay, I know
25:52
Speaker 4: who these people are, but I'm curious. I know all
25:54
Speaker 4: the issues weren't marijuana related, but if you were to
25:57
Speaker 4: fast forward and say, the same team when it was
26:01
Speaker 4: legal recreationally, would it be would we have the jail
26:04
Speaker 4: blazers or would we have.
26:06
Speaker 3: A couple of incidents on a team. I'm just curious.
26:09
Speaker 5: No, it just would have been a couple of incidents
26:11
Speaker 5: on the team.
26:12
Speaker 8: And that's that's the perspective that I think that we,
26:15
Speaker 8: you know, we wanted to give off because I think
26:17
Speaker 8: you've seen young guys twenty four to twenty five and
26:20
Speaker 8: twenty six, you know, growing up and now there's a
26:23
Speaker 8: different perspective. I mean, I'm fifty two years old coaching,
26:27
Speaker 8: doing different things, but it's just there's a different, totally
26:29
Speaker 8: different perspective.
26:30
Speaker 5: So yeah, I do believe that. And I mean even.
26:34
Speaker 8: Now in the evaluation of players, you know, when you're
26:40
Speaker 8: trying to figure out what's what about guys, you know,
26:45
Speaker 8: the talk of marijuana isn't the.
26:48
Speaker 5: Same, you know, and I think that it's legal. Well, yeah, yeah,
26:52
Speaker 5: it isn't. It isn't the same.
26:54
Speaker 8: But I think that, you know, for a guy like myself,
26:57
Speaker 8: he put me in such a pigeonhole at that time,
27:00
Speaker 8: it kind of it kind of spooked me.
27:03
Speaker 5: So for me, it's like, you know.
27:06
Speaker 8: I'm telling you, at that last time, I put it
27:09
Speaker 8: down and never looked back. Because for me, getting into
27:13
Speaker 8: the troubles that I was getting into at that time
27:17
Speaker 8: and the ridicule that I was taking, I was like, man,
27:19
Speaker 8: it kind of it didn't kill my career, but what
27:23
Speaker 8: I say, it turnished my reputation at that time.
27:25
Speaker 5: So I think that you.
27:26
Speaker 8: Were viewed a little differently, And you know, for me,
27:30
Speaker 8: that wasn't how I wanted to beat you.
27:33
Speaker 1: So untold jail Blazers premieeres tonight on Netflix. When you
27:37
Speaker 1: were going through it, dam and what was the most
27:38
Speaker 1: unfair thing that was said, reported, talked about, discussed as
27:42
Speaker 1: it related to your team.
27:45
Speaker 8: Well, I thought the headline itself. You know, for me,
27:49
Speaker 8: I thought it was disrespectful. I've said it a lot
27:53
Speaker 8: because I never really talked about Honestly, I never talked
27:55
Speaker 8: about my time with Portland because I.
27:58
Speaker 5: Never wanted to disrespect that, you know, the city.
28:02
Speaker 8: I never wanted to disrespect the organization, you know, in
28:06
Speaker 8: terms of you know.
28:07
Speaker 5: How I might have portrayed and how I might have felt.
28:10
Speaker 8: But as I've gotten older, you get you get a more,
28:13
Speaker 8: you get more of a perspective on what's really what
28:15
Speaker 8: it really is, right and so uh and talking about
28:19
Speaker 8: what was going on. I just thought the headline was
28:22
Speaker 8: unfair because we didn't if we're going to talk about that,
28:25
Speaker 8: and you know, speaking for me, you know, we're going
28:27
Speaker 8: to talk about my hiccups because I had them, and
28:30
Speaker 8: so I'm not gonna hide from them. Let's talk about
28:33
Speaker 8: the positive that I was also doing in the community
28:36
Speaker 8: where I grew up in And so that was for me.
28:41
Speaker 5: Hurt for a bit.
28:42
Speaker 8: But then I felt like you lumped a group of
28:44
Speaker 8: guys in that that in certain cases didn't do anything.
28:50
Speaker 5: So you can't just lump a group of guys.
28:52
Speaker 8: In and and and give a moniker to it and
28:55
Speaker 8: they not you know, and and and and make them
28:59
Speaker 8: portrayed them as the same as everyone else. And so
29:01
Speaker 8: I just thought that that perspective, of that perspective on it,
29:06
Speaker 8: you know, was disrespectful.
29:08
Speaker 6: Damon, I'm a Carolina guy. What was Rashid Wallace like
29:11
Speaker 6: as a teammate?
29:13
Speaker 1: Awesome?
29:14
Speaker 5: Yes, he's one of my one of my favorite, one
29:16
Speaker 5: of my.
29:17
Speaker 8: Favorite teammates ever, if not my my favorite. You know
29:22
Speaker 8: what's funny is is as I as I went through
29:25
Speaker 8: the NBA and even talking to people now, Rashid Wallace
29:29
Speaker 8: was probably one of you think about this and what
29:31
Speaker 8: I'm about to say, for most for most teams in
29:34
Speaker 8: the NBA during that time, he was the missing piece
29:39
Speaker 8: for probably everybody's team to be in a championship contention, right,
29:45
Speaker 8: And I think that I think that the thing about
29:48
Speaker 8: Rashid that made him such a great teammate was that,
29:52
Speaker 8: you know, he he he fought for his for his guys.
29:56
Speaker 8: He fought for his guys in the locker room. He
29:58
Speaker 8: never felt like he never felt like we needed more.
30:02
Speaker 8: You know, he always felt like we can get it
30:04
Speaker 8: done with us in the locker room. And as a
30:06
Speaker 8: teammate and being the best player, you know, you need
30:09
Speaker 8: that positivity. And I always say, you know, you know
30:14
Speaker 8: when I look at when I look at him, when
30:17
Speaker 8: I look at him, and I look when he went
30:19
Speaker 8: to Detroit for instance, you know, and you've seen what
30:23
Speaker 8: he brought to that team. Again, he was the missing piece.
30:28
Speaker 8: But everything that he was, everything that he was ridiculed for,
30:33
Speaker 8: it became the mantra when he went to Detroit. So
30:37
Speaker 8: it was almost like he went to the perfect situation
30:40
Speaker 8: for who he was as a as a player and
30:42
Speaker 8: a person at that time.
30:43
Speaker 4: That's why I say I don't associate even him with
30:46
Speaker 4: the jail Blazers, because you know, when you got to Detroit,
30:49
Speaker 4: you read like I always thought of him as a
30:51
Speaker 4: basketball nerd, like a basketball perfectionist. That's what ticked him
30:54
Speaker 4: off if basketball wasn't played right. And I tell this
30:57
Speaker 4: story a lot like it was before Game one of
31:00
Speaker 4: the I want to say, two thousand and six NBA
31:03
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference Finals, and a few reporters are sitting at
31:07
Speaker 4: a sports bar restaurant, like the night before Game one,
31:10
Speaker 4: it's like ten o'clock and you guys know Lisa Assaulters, right,
31:13
Speaker 4: sideline reporter, She was there with us. And then like
31:15
Speaker 4: at ten thirty in the evening, Rashid by himself shows
31:19
Speaker 4: up sits next to Lisa because he just needed to.
31:21
Speaker 3: Catch up with her.
31:22
Speaker 4: And I was just like, that's really nice, like that.
31:25
Speaker 4: You don't see that all the time, and like I
31:26
Speaker 4: could when his big thing was against the referees, I'm like,
31:29
Speaker 4: all right, you tell me the movie where people side
31:32
Speaker 4: with the authority figure there is none right, everybody should
31:34
Speaker 4: be on Rashid's side. So I feel like he might have,
31:37
Speaker 4: you know, repaired his reputation after Portland.
31:41
Speaker 8: No, yeah, no, I agree, you know, I just think that,
31:46
Speaker 8: you know, just you think about this, right, And I've
31:50
Speaker 8: talked I didn't talk about this and the doc, but
31:52
Speaker 8: I talk about this to you guys because I've mentioned
31:55
Speaker 8: it before. The year he led the NBA and technical fouls, right,
32:01
Speaker 8: if I'm not mistaken, it was two thousand and two
32:03
Speaker 8: thousand and one, and so when you look back on
32:06
Speaker 8: that year that we had, we had the best record
32:11
Speaker 8: in the NBA going into All Star Break. This is
32:14
Speaker 8: the thing that people that don't talk about. I think
32:16
Speaker 8: we were like just.
32:16
Speaker 3: How talented were yes?
32:18
Speaker 8: They yeah, we were like we were like forty one
32:21
Speaker 8: and eight, right, And so what ended up happening was that,
32:28
Speaker 8: you know, we we added a couple pieces and then
32:32
Speaker 8: we ended up losing fifteen out of seventeen games. And
32:38
Speaker 8: so when he was getting those technicals, I think that
32:41
Speaker 8: we were more so spiraling as a team.
32:45
Speaker 5: We didn't know who we were anymore.
32:47
Speaker 8: As a team, Like it was falling apart right then
32:50
Speaker 8: and there, because internally it wasn't the technicals is what.
32:53
Speaker 5: The world seemed.
32:54
Speaker 8: But what was going on inside was a lot of
32:57
Speaker 8: friction and not understanding roles and differ different things. And
33:01
Speaker 8: so I think that the crying out was the technicals,
33:04
Speaker 8: and I think that nobody really understood that, you know,
33:07
Speaker 8: and I don't you know, and it's never talked about.
33:09
Speaker 8: We were like forty one and eight. Again, we were
33:11
Speaker 8: we had to. I think we had the best record
33:13
Speaker 8: NBA going in the All Star Break that year.
33:16
Speaker 1: Damn it? Did Portland? Did the city? Did the fans
33:18
Speaker 1: start to turn on your team? They embraced the team
33:21
Speaker 1: early on, you guys were very good and talented team.
33:24
Speaker 1: Eventually did that city kind of turn on the team?
33:28
Speaker 8: Well, let's be honest, guys, like we can say, we
33:31
Speaker 8: can say that, but the reality is we didn't win, right,
33:34
Speaker 8: And so when you when you win, sometimes it don't
33:38
Speaker 8: matter how you win as long as you win, right, Yes,
33:43
Speaker 8: So so we didn't so as we didn't win, you know,
33:47
Speaker 8: that's just kind of what happens. That that that just happens, right,
33:50
Speaker 8: you start to see pieces leave the team, and so
33:54
Speaker 8: I'm not going to say that the fans, you know,
33:57
Speaker 8: just necessarily turned on the team. You know, what you
34:00
Speaker 8: can say is that we weren't winning, so they quit
34:03
Speaker 8: showing up because of what was happening with the team,
34:05
Speaker 8: you know, And so you know, I think that that that.
34:09
Speaker 5: Was more more of it than anything.
34:11
Speaker 8: And so I don't think that, you know, I think
34:14
Speaker 8: that they became mad at the at the player. They
34:17
Speaker 8: were mad at the players, but then I think after
34:19
Speaker 8: a while they became a little just disenchanted with the
34:22
Speaker 8: with the people that were running the organization as well.
34:25
Speaker 4: So, Devin, I want to ask you about your time
34:28
Speaker 4: coaching before I get there. Uh, your first couple years
34:31
Speaker 4: in Toronto put up a good amount of threes for
34:34
Speaker 4: the time, Like I think it was maybe five or
34:35
Speaker 4: six a game, and that not as much for the
34:38
Speaker 4: rest of your career except for you know, one or
34:39
Speaker 4: two seasons here there, if you were fifteen years younger,
34:43
Speaker 4: you have what kind of numbers you're putting up in
34:45
Speaker 4: the NBA today.
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Speaker 1: With all.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 8: I always tried to listen. I always try to tell
34:52
Speaker 8: I always try to tell myself I won't be a hater.
34:54
Speaker 8: So I'm not gonna I'm not going to say without
34:57
Speaker 8: what I would have done. But when I think about
35:00
Speaker 8: when I think about how I played, it would have
35:02
Speaker 8: been Taylor.
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Speaker 5: Made for this generation I do.
35:05
Speaker 8: And you know, being able to play with the ball
35:09
Speaker 8: or without the ball, I think that, you know, it
35:13
Speaker 8: just it would have fit in what was going on
35:14
Speaker 8: in today's basketball. You know, they're so they're so they're
35:19
Speaker 8: so big. We're so big now on creating mismatches. We're
35:22
Speaker 8: so big on guys who can drivele pass, and shoot,
35:25
Speaker 8: and so if you can do those things, you can
35:28
Speaker 8: have a lot of success.
35:29
Speaker 5: In this here.
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Speaker 4: So, David, uh this is half a joke, But why
35:35
Speaker 4: why do coaches hate the a CC now the.
35:39
Speaker 8: Well, for me, I didn't win enough. So you know,
35:42
Speaker 8: you know, listen, this is the crazy.
35:44
Speaker 3: It all gets out to winning.
35:46
Speaker 8: That everything everything comes down to winning, you know in
35:52
Speaker 8: college now, uh, you gotta be able to win. You
35:57
Speaker 8: gotta have uh, you gotta have support, and you got
36:01
Speaker 8: to have money. And I think that that's what we're
36:05
Speaker 8: seeing now. And and you know, guys are you know
36:09
Speaker 8: now now you know that's people are talking.
36:12
Speaker 5: They've been making a big deal out of it.
36:13
Speaker 8: But if you think about the NCAA tournament, you know,
36:17
Speaker 8: everybody's saying that it's hard for people to to uh
36:22
Speaker 8: to mid majors, to upset teams.
36:25
Speaker 5: Now, it's hard because you.
36:28
Speaker 8: Know, the money aspect, you know, and you even look
36:30
Speaker 8: at you know, Carolina, and Carolina lost in the first round,
36:34
Speaker 8: but Carolina probably is not even a sixth seed if
36:37
Speaker 8: Caleb Wilson isn't injured, right, and so him being injured
36:42
Speaker 8: you know, cost them seeding and then they end up
36:45
Speaker 8: losing that game or whatnot. But you know, it's just, uh,
36:48
Speaker 8: you know, the dynamic of college is different, and so
36:52
Speaker 8: I think that you you know, I honestly believe in
36:55
Speaker 8: a lot of different ways, uh College is closer to
36:58
Speaker 8: the NBA than ever, And I do believe that at
37:04
Speaker 8: some point the guardrails and the rules need to be
37:08
Speaker 8: similar to what to what the standards are in the NBA.
37:12
Speaker 8: And you know, the one thing I would say is,
37:16
Speaker 8: you know, even when I look at my situation this year, right,
37:19
Speaker 8: you know, because we spiraled and we end up losing
37:22
Speaker 8: twelve games in a row, but you know, the year before,
37:25
Speaker 8: you know, we won ten conference games, we went to
37:28
Speaker 8: the n I T. So the trajectory was fine. And
37:31
Speaker 8: now you talk about I think, you know, when you
37:33
Speaker 8: look at the NBA for instance, right, and you're talking
37:36
Speaker 8: about the NBA, I've seen a statistic that was staggering,
37:40
Speaker 8: and it was eight teams this year I think, lost
37:43
Speaker 8: fifty five plus games. And so the only the only
37:48
Speaker 8: reason I'm using that as analogy compared to where I'm
37:50
Speaker 8: at for perspective for the people is that there has
37:54
Speaker 8: to be a shared vision, because there can be years
37:57
Speaker 8: of a.
37:58
Speaker 5: One off regardless.
38:00
Speaker 8: So the only reason that people can withstand fifty five
38:03
Speaker 8: lost seasons in the NBA is because it's a shared vision.
38:07
Speaker 8: So in certain instances, you might be expected to win
38:11
Speaker 8: lose fifty five games because the team isn't ready to
38:13
Speaker 8: win yet, so you're trying to find out who You're
38:15
Speaker 8: trying to figure out who you're gonna keep, and who's
38:18
Speaker 8: gonna beat up for the long haul who is and
38:20
Speaker 8: how you make trades and how you don't make trades,
38:22
Speaker 8: and so, you know, I think college is a lot
38:24
Speaker 8: closer to that than than they want to believe. So
38:28
Speaker 8: I think that for any coach, any head coach, it
38:31
Speaker 8: doesn't matter, it always has to be a shared vision.
38:34
Speaker 8: So everybody's on the same page. It's not the same
38:36
Speaker 8: way as it used to be, you know. And and
38:39
Speaker 8: I think that's the perspective that that I take from
38:42
Speaker 8: this year, and even looking at what you just said,
38:46
Speaker 8: a lot of the coaches, you know, the ACC A
38:49
Speaker 8: lot of us were.
38:50
Speaker 5: Let go and then uh, Will Wade, you know, he left.
38:55
Speaker 8: So you know, that's my perspective, that's my that's what
38:58
Speaker 8: I feel, and I think that's what's coming.
39:01
Speaker 5: But we'll see.
39:02
Speaker 8: But I do, I do believe that we're closer to
39:04
Speaker 8: something of that then than we are anything else.
39:08
Speaker 3: That makes sense.
39:09
Speaker 1: Damn, we'll get you out of here in just a second.
39:11
Speaker 1: What do you like about Will Wade.
39:14
Speaker 5: Well, I like him because he's a straight shooter. You know,
39:18
Speaker 5: I can live with that.
39:20
Speaker 8: You know, as long as I as long as I
39:24
Speaker 8: know what it is on the front end, I can
39:25
Speaker 8: accept what it is on the back end.
39:27
Speaker 5: And that's that's that's who he is.
39:29
Speaker 8: And uh he's he's been successful and uh he knows
39:34
Speaker 8: how to build and for me, uh going there, you know,
39:38
Speaker 8: uh working with him, I'm looking forward to it. And uh,
39:43
Speaker 8: you know again just just just someone just someone that
39:48
Speaker 8: that that that I believe in. You know that that
39:52
Speaker 8: I'm with. You know, that's that's the biggest key, because
39:55
Speaker 8: you know, truth be told. Uh I wasn't coming back
39:58
Speaker 8: to college. I wasn't, you know, I wasn't.
40:01
Speaker 5: I was.
40:01
Speaker 8: I was all right, well, I was all right with
40:04
Speaker 8: with you know, just kind of seeing what was out there.
40:07
Speaker 8: And I had been you know, going around visiting some
40:09
Speaker 8: NBA teams and I had kind of locked in and
40:12
Speaker 8: watched a lot more NBA games just kind of you know,
40:15
Speaker 8: it's always trying to get a feel for what it
40:17
Speaker 8: for what it looked like, and so you.
40:19
Speaker 5: Know, I was just going wait for you know, kind
40:21
Speaker 5: of wait for that cycle. But you know, his call
40:24
Speaker 5: excited me.
40:26
Speaker 8: And you know, I'm looking forward to to to getting
40:29
Speaker 8: out to LSU and UH and helping him build and
40:33
Speaker 8: and and and be successful throughout his journey.
40:36
Speaker 1: Now, Damnon, we watched me and as he watched Arizona
40:40
Speaker 1: in the sweet sixteen. We said the very next day
40:42
Speaker 1: on the radio, that's the best fucking team in the country.
40:44
Speaker 1: And then they played Michigan. What the hell happened? I mean,
40:47
Speaker 1: we hadn't watched Michigan all year, so we didn't know
40:50
Speaker 1: what the hell happened? Damon.
40:51
Speaker 5: I mean, so I was so I went to the game,
40:54
Speaker 5: you know.
40:54
Speaker 8: So I was at the game, and you know, first
40:56
Speaker 8: things first, you know, again, you know, maybe maybe it's
41:00
Speaker 8: a different game, maybe it isn't, but you can't you
41:04
Speaker 8: can't put two quick.
41:05
Speaker 5: Fouls on on on Arizona.
41:08
Speaker 8: Ja Jay and Bradley might not have been Arizona's best player,
41:11
Speaker 8: but he was their most valuable player. He gets two fouls,
41:14
Speaker 8: they put him back in and then he picks up
41:16
Speaker 8: his third foul in the first half. You know, so
41:19
Speaker 8: that that just makes it tough. You don't have your leader,
41:21
Speaker 8: you don't have the guy that comes people down. I mean,
41:24
Speaker 8: that's so important. In a game like that, and you know,
41:27
Speaker 8: you've seen how well Candolt played for for for Michigan
41:31
Speaker 8: in that in that game, and then we just you know,
41:33
Speaker 8: they couldn't make a shot. You know, they couldn't make it.
41:36
Speaker 8: And sometimes it's like that, you know, it's you know,
41:38
Speaker 8: I'll say.
41:38
Speaker 5: It now again. I didn't want to say. I'm like, man,
41:41
Speaker 5: you know, I remember when I went to the Final four.
41:43
Speaker 5: You know, play so well all season.
41:45
Speaker 8: I get to I get to the I get to
41:47
Speaker 8: the biggest stage and I shoot six for twenty four.
41:49
Speaker 8: Now I was gonna keep. I was, I was gonna keep.
41:51
Speaker 8: I was gonna keep shooting that thing. But but I
41:54
Speaker 8: couldn't make nothing. And you know, Michigan they called a
41:56
Speaker 8: Michigan team, and that was and what I would say,
41:59
Speaker 8: what I would say, man.
42:01
Speaker 5: Michigan is really good.
42:02
Speaker 8: Like I didn't like, you know, it's one thing to
42:04
Speaker 8: watch them on TV, but when I but when I
42:06
Speaker 8: watched them in person, I was like, damn, they are
42:08
Speaker 8: really good man.
42:09
Speaker 5: They just didn't have a lot of flaws in that team.
42:12
Speaker 8: You know, they had they had perimeter, they had inside
42:16
Speaker 8: and and and they were they were just they were
42:19
Speaker 8: on that on that day and as we've seen by
42:21
Speaker 8: when national chemp, they just really good team.
42:23
Speaker 1: Uh real quickly on the way out here. A shot
42:25
Speaker 1: for your life. It's a game we play around here. Okay,
42:28
Speaker 1: you have to choose one of these two guys. Your
42:29
Speaker 1: life depends on them hitting this shot. Larry Bird Steph Curry.
42:33
Speaker 1: Who you got three pointer for your life?
42:36
Speaker 5: Yeah?
42:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel pretty good about either choice?
42:40
Speaker 8: I think, yes, you you are you are you know,
42:43
Speaker 8: you know, you know what I'm a Obviously we know
42:47
Speaker 8: Steph Curry. So Steph Curry would probably make that shot.
42:51
Speaker 8: But since I was, since I grew up on on
42:54
Speaker 8: watching that Larry Magic, Michael and a dynamic.
42:58
Speaker 3: All all I.
42:59
Speaker 8: Remember is Larry Bird three point shooting contests, uh Chicago,
43:06
Speaker 8: and he needed to make the whole rack of winning.
43:08
Speaker 5: And he chat that last ball. He just put his
43:10
Speaker 5: hand right up. Something go with Larry, but.
43:12
Speaker 3: He turned his back walking.
43:15
Speaker 2: Yes.
43:15
Speaker 4: Yes, the bigger the stakes, the better chance he's going
43:18
Speaker 4: to make that shot.
43:19
Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, so good.
43:21
Speaker 1: Untold Jail Blazers premieeres tonight on Netflix. I can't wait
43:24
Speaker 1: to watch it. Damon, this has been a thrill for us.
43:27
Speaker 1: One more time, if you like to promote the movie
43:28
Speaker 1: on the way out, tell people why they should check
43:30
Speaker 1: it out.
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Speaker 5: Well, check it out because it gives you a perspective.
43:34
Speaker 8: Again, the biggest perspective is twofold, uh, the team that
43:39
Speaker 8: was built between ninety nine and two thousand and four Bob,
43:42
Speaker 8: which it talks a whole lot and how he wanted
43:44
Speaker 8: to put that together, and then the off the court
43:47
Speaker 8: issues that maybe were explained a little more in depth
43:50
Speaker 8: and just see and you will see kind of kind
43:53
Speaker 8: of the kind of what was actually going on in
43:55
Speaker 8: the air that wasn't there was no social media.
43:58
Speaker 1: All right. We'd also like to stend an invitation. It's
44:01
Speaker 1: our first ever Coachella. We're doing it this year. You're
44:04
Speaker 1: a coach Coach's Convention. If you would like to join
44:07
Speaker 1: us for Coachella, feel free.
44:08
Speaker 3: We'll have checking if we can have the name. We're
44:10
Speaker 3: not sure. If we can have, we'll make you Master of.
44:13
Speaker 1: Ceremonies if you like, you can see it if you want,
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Speaker 1: all right, all right, all right, right, thank you David. Alright,
44:20
Speaker 1: all right, well we'll be in touch. Thank you, David.
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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Good luck with the documentary. I can't
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Speaker 1: wait to see it.
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Speaker 5: Man, thank you, appreciating