Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Jes Staley And His Unredacted Motion To Exclude JP Morgan's Expert Witness Opinions (Part 1) (10/7/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04Speaker 1: In this episode we're diving right back into the court
- 0:06Speaker 1: documents and we're going to take a look at the
- 0:08Speaker 1: third party defendant James Staley's brief in support of his
- 0:12Speaker 1: motion to exclude JPMorgan Chase Bank's proffered expert opinions. The
- 0:17Speaker 1: one constant in these related cases has been JPMorgan's attempt
- 0:21Speaker 1: to pin the entirety of the problems with Jeffrey Epstein
- 0:24Speaker 1: on its former executive Jess Staley. Consistent with this theme,
- 0:28Speaker 1: the three experts whom the bank is retained to support
- 0:31Speaker 1: its third-party claims against Mr. Staley are focused on a
- 0:34Speaker 1: single question. How much should Mr. Staley have to pay?
- 0:38Speaker 1: That is, the three of them assume liability and then
- 0:41Speaker 1: divide up the economic terrain as follows. 1. Edith Wong,
- 0:44Speaker 1: an accountant, opines that J.P. Morgan's $ 290 million settlement with
- 0:49Speaker 1: the Jane Doe class was reasonable. 2. Shelley Chapman, a
- 0:52Speaker 1: retired bankruptcy judge, opines that that J.P. Morgan's redacted legal
- 0:56Speaker 1: fees in the Jane Doe and USVI cases was reasonable.
- 1:00Speaker 1: And three, Carlin Irwin, also an accountant, adds up how
- 1:05Speaker 1: much Mr. Staley earned to J.P. Morgan to assess the
- 1:08Speaker 1: potential amount that might be clawed back under a disgorgement remedy.
- 1:12Speaker 1: None of these experts' opinions meets the Daubert standard of admissibility,
- 1:16Speaker 1: and each of them must therefore be excluded. The argument.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Federal Rule of Evidence 702 states, allows testimony in the
- 1:24Speaker 1: form of expert opinion if, among other things, the opinion, one,
- 1:28Speaker 1: will assist the trier of fact to determine a fact
- 1:31Speaker 1: and issue, and two, is the product of reliable principles
- 1:35Speaker 1: and methods. The party offering the expert opinion here, J.P. Morgan,
- 1:39Speaker 1: bears the burden to show that it meets every element
- 1:42Speaker 1: of these standards, including that the opinion in both relevant
- 1:46Speaker 1: and reliable. 1. J.P. Morgan's expert opinion on settlement amount.
- 1:51Speaker 1: To foist the cost of its settlement with the Jane
- 1:53Speaker 1: Doe class onto Mr. Staley, J.P. Morgan must show, among
- 1:57Speaker 1: other things, that $ 290 million was a reasonable price to
- 2:01Speaker 1: pay to be released from the liability in that lawsuit.
- 2:04Speaker 1: On this point, the bank starts on its back foot
- 2:07Speaker 1: for at least two reasons. First, in both absolute and
- 2:10Speaker 1: per claimant terms, J.P. Morgan has agreed to pay an
- 2:13Speaker 1: amount far greater than the other settlements arising out of
- 2:17Speaker 1: Epstein's abuse, including those paid by the abuser himself. Second,
- 2:21Speaker 1: given the number of Epstein-related settlements that have already occurred, e.g.
- 2:25Speaker 1: the settlement in Jane Doe v. Deutsche Bank, the bank
- 2:28Speaker 1: will be compensating victims who have already been compensated for
- 2:31Speaker 1: the same harm, in some cases multiple times. To make
- 2:35Speaker 1: the case that its extraordinary and cumulative settlement payments meets
- 2:39Speaker 1: the test of reasonableness, the bank proffers the opinions of
- 2:42Speaker 1: Edith Wong, a forensic accountant employed by the advisory firm
- 2:45Speaker 1: FTI Consulting. To arrive at her opinions, Ms. Wong states
- 2:49Speaker 1: that she, one, researched sex abuse settlements to find ones
- 2:53Speaker 1: that were, in her view, comparable to J.P. Morgan's settlement. Two,
- 2:57Speaker 1: group the settlements into the types of her own fashioning.
- 3:00Speaker 1: And then three, determine the average per victim payout for
- 3:04Speaker 1: each type. As her final step, Ms. Wong averaged the
- 3:07Speaker 1: averages arriving at an average per victim settlement payment of $ 1. 7 million, which,
- 3:13Speaker 1: by her calculation, happened to be an exact match for
- 3:15Speaker 1: the J.P. Morgan settlement. Wong Deposition at 138. None of Ms.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Wong's analysis was informed by any expertise in class action settlements,
- 3:25Speaker 1: and each stage of her analysis was marked by outcome-driven
- 3:28Speaker 1: judgment calls of an entirely subjective nature, which she was
- 3:32Speaker 1: not qualified to make. Given Rule 702's requirement that opinion
- 3:35Speaker 1: testimony must come from a qualified expert and result from
- 3:39Speaker 1: the application of reliable principles and methods, a failing of
- 3:43Speaker 1: either expertise or reliability will render an expert's testimony inadmissible.
- 3:48Speaker 1: The opinions of Ms. Wong fail on both points. A. Ms.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Wong has no expertise in class action settlements. To determine
- 3:56Speaker 1: whether a witness qualifies as an expert, courts compare the
- 3:59Speaker 1: area in which the witness has superior knowledge, education, experience,
- 4:03Speaker 1: or skill with the subject matter of the proffered testimony.
- 4:07Speaker 1: A court must ensure that the expert will actually be
- 4:10Speaker 1: testifying on issues or subject matter within his or her
- 4:13Speaker 1: area of expertise. When an expert is no longer applying
- 4:17Speaker 1: her extensive experience and reliable methodology, Daubert teaches that the
- 4:21Speaker 1: testimony should be excluded. Here, the subject matter of Ms.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Wong's opinion is the reasonableness of a price paid to
- 4:28Speaker 1: settle a class action lawsuit. Ms. Wong readily admits that
- 4:32Speaker 1: she is not an expert in class action settlements and
- 4:35Speaker 1: has never before provided an opinion on the reasonableness of
- 4:38Speaker 1: a civil settlement or one comparing civil settlements. None of
- 4:42Speaker 1: her expertise is in forensic accountant, redacted, at 44, is
- 4:47Speaker 1: of anything more than general relevance and all of her
- 4:50Speaker 1: previous work as a testifying expert has been in criminal matters.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Although it is true that Ms. Wong's work in such
- 4:56Speaker 1: criminal matters has involved calculating restitution to individual victims of
- 5:01Speaker 1: sex trafficking, her opinions in those cases have been victim-specific
- 5:05Speaker 1: and based on personal factors like age, earning capacity, and
- 5:08Speaker 1: the extent of personal trauma. She did not apply that
- 5:12Speaker 1: methodology in this case. She could not. as she did
- 5:15Speaker 1: not have any personal information for the victims in the
- 5:18Speaker 1: Jane Doe class, and thus none of her prior experience
- 5:21Speaker 1: calculating restitution lends itself to expertise in the subject matter
- 5:25Speaker 1: of her opinion here. The closest that Ms. Wong could
- 5:28Speaker 1: come to identifying a prior engagement comparable to this one
- 5:33Speaker 1: was one single project involving sex abuse claims against a
- 5:36Speaker 1: religious entity. In that matter, which is still ongoing, she
- 5:39Speaker 1: helped to quantify an appropriate settlement proposal on the entity's behalf.
- 5:44Speaker 1: and her work included reviewing class action sex abuse settlements
- 5:47Speaker 1: for comparison purposes. As she admitted, however, the settlements she
- 5:52Speaker 1: considered for that matter were ones that she expressly excluded
- 5:55Speaker 1: from her analysis in this case, and her methodology there
- 5:59Speaker 1: boiled down to a victim-specific restitution analysis akin to what
- 6:03Speaker 1: she has done in criminal cases. Next section, redacted. That
- 6:08Speaker 1: methodology was of course not the one she used for
- 6:10Speaker 1: her assignment here, as she testified, redacted. B. Ms. Wong's
- 6:16Speaker 1: opinion on the reasonableness of the Jane Doe settlement is
- 6:19Speaker 1: based on an outcome-driven methodology. Under Daubert and its progeny,
- 6:24Speaker 1: the hallmark of a reliable methodology is an analytical rigor,
- 6:28Speaker 1: meaning the expert's reliance on objective standards. Daubert 509 U.S.
- 6:33Speaker 1: at 594. the existence, and maintenance of standards controlling the
- 6:38Speaker 1: technique's operation. Thus, whenever an expert's opinion boils down to
- 6:42Speaker 1: the expert's own subjective views, the court must reject it.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Linko Incorporated v. Fujitsu Limited, No. 00-7242-SAS-2002-WL-1585551-4-SDNY, July 16, 2002.
- 6:50Speaker 1: A court may not simply take the expert's word for it,
- 6:52Speaker 1: quoting Fed R. Evidence 702 Advisory Committee's Note C-523 IP
- 7:09Speaker 1: LLC 48 F SUPP 3D at 649. This requirement applies
- 7:15Speaker 1: to every step in the expert's analysis, and thus any
- 7:17Speaker 1: step that renders the analysis unreliable renders the expert's testimony inadmissible. 1. Ms.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Wong's Skewed Selection of Comparables By Ms. Wong's calculation, the
- 7:28Speaker 1: average per victim payout by Epstein's estate was well below
- 7:31Speaker 1: the $ 1. 7 million that she calculated in for the JP
- 7:34Speaker 1: Morgan settlement, and the average for the Jane Doe v.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Deutsche Bank settlement was lower still. When selecting comps for
- 7:41Speaker 1: her reasonableness analysis, therefore, Wong did not limit herself to
- 7:45Speaker 1: lawsuits based on abuse by Epstein, or even to ones
- 7:48Speaker 1: under the Trafficking Victims Protection Act. Wong instead redacted, These
- 7:54Speaker 1: additional settlements had significantly higher average payments than the ones
- 7:58Speaker 1: based on Epstein's abuse, raising the overall average for Ms.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Wong's comparison. next section redacted, next section redacted as well. Ms.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Wong's universe of comparables was also noteworthy for the settlements
- 8:10Speaker 1: that she decided to exclude. Chief among her exclusions were
- 8:13Speaker 1: 39 settlements by victims of Harvey Weinstein, the per-victim average
- 8:18Speaker 1: of which was $ 437, 000, roughly one-quarter of Ms. Wong's average.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Although Weinstein was a serial abuser, and in that regard
- 8:27Speaker 1: a closer match to Epstein than Prince Andrew, Ms. Wong
- 8:29Speaker 1: nevertheless claimed that it was proper to exclude the Weinstein
- 8:33Speaker 1: settlements because 1. Weinstein Company was in bankruptcy proceedings at
- 8:37Speaker 1: the time, which could have reduced the claimant's leverage, and 2.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Weinstein's victims were reportedly older than Epstein's, which, as noted above,
- 8:45Speaker 1: would have reduced the potential liability. As was the case
- 8:49Speaker 1: with Epstein's victims, however, Ms. Wong possessed no data on
- 8:52Speaker 1: the ages of Weinstein's victims and thus had no way
- 8:55Speaker 1: to quantify the purported average age difference. None of the
- 8:59Speaker 1: above will fly under Daubert. For any comparative analysis to
- 9:03Speaker 1: satisfy a rule 702's rigorous reliability requirements, the expert must
- 9:08Speaker 1: justify the comparator used. See King v. Wong, 2021 WL
- 9:12Speaker 1: 523-7195 at 11, SDNY, November 9, 2021. In each context,
- 9:14Speaker 1: the analysis requires criteria for the identification of comparables. and
- 9:24Speaker 1: the making of appropriate adjustments to account for differences between
- 9:28Speaker 1: the comparable and the thing being appraised. Ms. Wong's inclusion
- 9:32Speaker 1: of sex abuse settlements involving perpetrators other than Epstein with
- 9:35Speaker 1: no knowledge of how the sued upon acts compared to
- 9:38Speaker 1: Epstein beyond their basic sexual nature is fundamentally non-rigorous, and
- 9:43Speaker 1: it is completely unjustifiable to treat those settlements as comparable
- 9:47Speaker 1: when in both Prince Andrew's case and the hotel chain case,
- 9:51Speaker 1: Additional factors were present, which, by Ms. Wong's own assessment,
- 9:55Speaker 1: would have increased the victim's leverage and driven up the
- 9:57Speaker 1: settlement cost. But even more problematic... than Ms. Wong's non-rigorous
- 10:01Speaker 1: comparability criteria was her selective application of that criteria when
- 10:06Speaker 1: deciding which settlements were in or out. The reasons that Ms.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Wong gave to exclude the lower-valued Weinstein settlements, reduced victim leverage,
- 10:14Speaker 1: and increased victim age were were one-way drivers of settlement
- 10:17Speaker 1: value that did not trouble her greatly in the case
- 10:20Speaker 1: of settlements that raised her average. Simply put, if reduced
- 10:23Speaker 1: victim leverage suffices to exclude the Weinstein settlements, then certainly
- 10:27Speaker 1: increased victim leverage suffices to exclude the settlements of Prince
- 10:31Speaker 1: Andrew and the hotel chain. And if a higher average
- 10:34Speaker 1: victim age suffices to exclude the Weinstein settlements, then certainly
- 10:38Speaker 1: a lower one suffices to exclude the hotel chains. On
- 10:41Speaker 1: both points, Miss Wong was trying to have it both ways.
- 10:44Speaker 1: applying her criteria rigorously when the settlements would lower her average,
- 10:48Speaker 1: but not when they did not. That is nothing more
- 10:51Speaker 1: than cherry picking, and it is the antithesis of a
- 10:54Speaker 1: sound methodology. All right, we're going to wrap up this
- 10:57Speaker 1: episode right here, and in the next episode discussing the topic,
- 11:00Speaker 1: we're going to pick up with two, Ms. Wong's determination
- 11:03Speaker 1: of the per victim amount. All of the information that
- 11:06Speaker 1: goes with this episode can be found in the description box.