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The Anatomy of Trees: Growth Rings, Inner Layers, Roots and More · Talking Trees with Davey Tree

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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Davy Tree Expert Companies podcast, Talking Trees.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Doug Oester.
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  SPEAKER_00: Each week, our expert arborists share advice on seasonal tree care, how to make your trees thrive, arborists' favorite trees, and much, much more.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tune in every Thursday to learn more because here at the Talking Trees Podcast, we know trees are the answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, we have a fun episode today.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm joined again by Christy Buck.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's a plant pathologist and technical advisor at the Davy Institute.
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  SPEAKER_00: And before we started this recording, we just spent about 20 minutes talking about gardening, and it was awesome.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the show, Christy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, today we're talking about, and I'm I'm interested to see how you're going to approach this.
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  SPEAKER_00: The anatomy of trees.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like at what point do you learn the anatomy of trees?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it when you get into this business or is it when you're a kid?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or how do you how do you start with this?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, thank you for having me, Doug.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm pumped to be here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, you know, that's a great question, actually, because I think about that kind of thing all the time when I'm you know teaching people about trees.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like there's so many parts that people don't think of.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you wouldn't believe how many homeowners or or you know, people in general um that I have had say to me, you know, I didn't realize trees are real or are living.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I always find that to be so interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, that's fair, you know, people don't think about them the same way I do in in extreme depth, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But there's so many different parts of a tree that come together to make them so functional and the way that they are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, there's there's so many different parts, and it's so cool to to know about it and get to teach people about it, you know, the roots to the canopy to the leaves to each little branch, you know, they all have their their time to shine, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when I when I think of it, I I guess I'm just thinking roots and canopy, but I know there's so much more, and there's layers in there, and uh on the roots, there's all sorts of cool stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so when we're talking about the anatomy of a tree, where do you start when you want to talk about that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so actually, one of the big things that I remember learning when I first started at Davy that I didn't even think about before was that there's actually dead cells um that make up part of the trunk, that heartwood.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those heartwood cells are dead, xylem cells.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so it's pretty crazy to think that the trees know to like keep those that that cell structure there for support in the tree, that heartwood, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: The heartwood's there for support, that's that middle part of the tree.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but they're not living, you know, they're not living cells in that living structure.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the only living cells are in the outside part of that trunk.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so it's kind of cool to think about that every year, you know, the tree makes those growth rings, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And after they grow the xylem uh cells that are living, you know, they die off and become that heartwood.
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  SPEAKER_01: So those living xylem cells just transition into those dead cells for that structure of the trunk in the middle.
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  SPEAKER_00: In a big tree, then, like let's just I'm gonna put an example as a big oak tree.
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  SPEAKER_00: How much in the middle would be dead?
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  SPEAKER_00: And does it get bigger and bigger like as the tree gets bigger?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's like but it's not it's not rotted dead wood.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's how do you what what exp give me more on the heartwood?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm give more.
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  SPEAKER_01: If only I could tell you with uh all the visuals I'm seeing in my head, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but so yeah, you know how there's growth rings and you can tell how old the tree is, right, by counting those growth rings.
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  SPEAKER_01: So so those are what grow each year, okay?
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's that's why we can tell how old the trees are from that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so every year the trees are growing outwardly, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's that secondary growth of a tree.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so so it just kind of depends on how healthy the tree is, how much is in there, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So how big each layer is each year, which is also really a cool thing if you take a tree down or and look at that cross section, you can tell which years that tree had a good year and grew a lot because those growth rings will actually be much bigger.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then you can tell which years it was stressed out because they'll be much, much smaller.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so, really, the size and the girth of a tree just depends on that you know tree species and also the health of the tree each year.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you could have you know a 90-year-old tree um that was super healthy and be double the size um in circumference than you know another 90-year-old tree of the same species if that one was stressed out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Man, that's fascinating stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh something I never I never even heard of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've heard I've heard of the term heartwood, but I didn't understand that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that is really fascinating, really cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, trees give us a lot of like indications of kind of their story.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, there's those growth rings that tell you, but also um, you know, you can look at the inner nodes of a tree on a branch, um, and that's just basically like between two growth parts on a branch, to put it simply, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and each season those grow, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And if those, if the tree is not healthy during that season, then those inner nodes will be really, really short.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, if it's you know, if it was if it was a great season and thrived, then those inner nodes will be much bigger.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you can tell the health of a tree from that way too.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you can kind of keep track of how your tree is doing on the outside, um, if you want to look at that part.
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  SPEAKER_00: So after our heartwood, what's next?
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  SPEAKER_01: That then you have the cambium basically, um, which is the sap wood.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so the saploid is going to be those living cells.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's basically the xylem and the phloam.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so those are actively living cells.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those are going to transport the water and nutrients up and down the tree.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so that's you know super crucial to life of the tree.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and yeah, yeah, the living cells are on the outside part, dead cells on the in for that structure.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's kind of impressive how trees have you know evolved into what they are.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're such a specialized, um, organized grouping of cells.
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  SPEAKER_00: Does it depend on what type of tree it is?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is how much of that layer will be part of the tree, or is it always kind of like, well, three-quarters of the tree will be this or be that, or does it depend on the species?
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  SPEAKER_01: I would say everything always depends on the sh the species of a tree.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, like there's so many factors that go with each species, just kind of like each human.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're all different, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But we have so many similarities.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so that really does depend.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's always good to know your species if you're you know trying to figure out the health of your tree or what's going on.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's good to know what is normal for that tree, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because every one of them is so differently, it's so different.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I couldn't even tell you, you know, ratios of that sort.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and because it changes due to the health and the environment each year, it's kind of hard to put a number on that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it definitely does depend on the species.
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  SPEAKER_00: After that layer, what's next?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, then it's the well, I guess I guess it's the bark, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: The bark protecting part.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it's it's just the the heartwood, then the say the name of that layer again.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then you have the bark basically covering that.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's those are the basics.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, we don't there's many, many other little things involved in or in in between, but um the things that are important to know are you know, you have your bark for protection on the outside, then you have those living cells that are crucial to life of the tree, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: If you don't have those vascular cells, those those tissues moving water and nutrients up and down, then then you're not gonna have life, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So that outer part is very, very crucial to life, and then then you have that heartwood, those dead xylem cells that are there for structure.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe this is too simplistic, but what I'm thinking about, I'm thinking, like, isn't it amazing that the tree can draw water through the roots and get it up a hundred feet to that canopy on top?
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: To me, that's you know, since we're talking about this, that just seems amazing to me, but maybe that's every day for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, trees are constantly amazing me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I love that you get excited like I do.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like you find out all these little things, and yeah, when you think about it, it's like this shouldn't make sense, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But like it's just so evolved, and like we need trees, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But I do get so excited about all that stuff, and it is amazing, especially you think of like a a redwood, you know?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's wild that that can grow that large and live that long and just thrive.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm when I'm uh the the tree I had in mind was on the eastern part of the the country was the Dawn Redwood.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: I've got a Dawn Redwood, and that's what I was thinking of because that thing is a hundred feet tall, fast grower, and my favorite my favorite tree on the the property just because when I first moved here, I was like mystified like how can there be a redwood here and not knowing what a Dawn Redwood was?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, no, they're they're beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love those trees.
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  SPEAKER_01: We actually planted one across the street in our neighbor's yard, and I it's shot up in the past two or three years.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just huge, and I'm so excited about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're beautiful, and people get confused because they lose their you know, needles and stuff, and uh kind of a cool conifer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so let's go below the soil when we're talking about the anatomy of a tree.
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  SPEAKER_00: We know there's roots down there, but is there anything else we can learn?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, actually, that's kind of my favorite part of the tree because roots really bring life to the tree, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, they they they anchor the tree, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So you need those roots to hold the tree in.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if they don't have a good anchoring system, then they're not gonna make it that long, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, depending.
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  SPEAKER_01: We put a lot of trees in our urban environment that shouldn't be there, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And they they can live for many, many years, surprisingly, but um, you know, that root system is key to life, so so it's really important, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so those roots are gonna anchor the tree, and then they're also going to get the nutrients and water for life of the tree.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so everything surrounding those roots is kind of an indicator of how that tree is gonna do.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, that's why you know soils are so important.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you don't have good soil, if you have compacted soil around your tree, or you have construction damage, or you you have you know not enough root space, kind of all issues start there in our urban environment because we we really don't give our trees much to grab on to uh with the roots, but also in terms of what they need, you know, in the forest, they have so many nutrients and so many things available to help them thrive that they don't have in this urban environment.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so it's it's kind of cool to think about that these trees aren't supposed to be here, but we put them here and they last and live and thrive anyway.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, the roots are probably the most important part of the tree.
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  SPEAKER_01: If something goes wrong with those roots, then your tree is is not gonna, you know, do well.
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  SPEAKER_00: And most of us understand that each tree has a different type of root.
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  SPEAKER_00: What if you have a maple tree growing in your yard, you see the roots.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, in my case, I'm uh obsessed with pawpaws.
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  SPEAKER_00: They have this long tap root.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to move that tree, you better get to it while it's young, otherwise, it's not gonna move.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so every tree's got a different style of root, would you say?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or how would you explain that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, they definitely do.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I would say, like in a general sense, um, a lot of uh evergreens or conifers, they're gonna have really shallow root systems.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they're not gonna get as anchored in as the hardwoods are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, again, this is very general, but um, that's why if you know there's a storm where they there's a heavy rain and wind, that's why you'll typically see you know, whole evergreens uproot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whereas with hardwoods, you'll see, you know, maybe branches break off or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, that's an indication of that shallow root system when it gets really wet, there's nothing for those roots to hold on to, and that's why they they uproot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and whereas you have, you know, let's say a big oak tree, they're gonna be way more anchored into the ground.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's very, very unlikely that you're gonna see an oak tree uproot in a storm, unless, you know, there's tons of root rot.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: But um otherwise, you know, yeah, those that anchorage system is way deeper and uh more intense in those those hardwoods.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is another generalization, but is it true that in general the the roots reach out to the drip line where the edge of the tree is?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is is that am I got do I have that right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, at least to that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So actually it's it's much further than that drip line.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was I remember learning that initially, and then people showed me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think there's a there's a uh cool visual that ISA had years ago, and it's showing you know a tree and its canopy, and then it's showing the under part, the root part, um, where the roots are just reaching far, far away from you know that that drip line.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it kind of depends on the species again.
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  SPEAKER_01: It depends if there's room for those roots to grow.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's why we kind of have become used to saying, oh, okay, to the drip line, because most urban trees, that drip line is all that they have to grow in, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: They don't have much further to go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maybe there's a building or something like that.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so it's kind of human-induced, I would say.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, it just kind of depends on that species again and those environmental conditions and if there's room to grow or not, but they go further than you'd think.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my trees that are in the woods, they're probably reaching out in general past the drip line, huh?
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, they're probably all intertwined with their roots and just like you know, saying hi to each other and giving hugs and you know, moving around and and probably stabilizing each other too.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I bet I bet they're going, I bet they're much happier than the urban trees.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: Well, please stabilize each other out there in the woods.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want any more fallen trees.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: Nope, nope, be friends, hold on to each other.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are there different kinds of roots or is a root a root?
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  SPEAKER_01: So there's there's different kinds, as in like there's the anchor roots that are gonna be those those big roots that hold the tree in, you know, and those are thicker, woody, real dense, um, hard, big roots, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then you have your feeder roots mostly.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so those feeder roots are what are gonna uptake that water and nutrients.
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  SPEAKER_01: So those are crucial for life of the tree, and then those those bigger hard roots um are going to be crucial for that anchoring and uh stability of the tree.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of generally what there is.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then if we discuss the canopy, I mean to me, I guess canopy is a canopy, but how how how do you and how do you view it?
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: You must I'm sure you view it differently than that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would say usually how I view a canopy is you know, in the urban environment, I honestly look at almost every tree canopy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like every time I see a new tree, I look at the canopy.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, what's going on?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because that canopy can tell you a lot of things.
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  SPEAKER_01: It can also not tell you things that you would want to know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, for instance, a lot of like wood decay fungi will actually, you know, only go after that heart wood.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it won't show signs or symptoms, sorry, symptoms in the canopy because it's not going after that living tissue that moves, you know, the water and uh and nutrients up and down the tree.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you won't see any symptoms in the canopy, yet the tree is you know decaying a ton and you wouldn't even know the roots are you know, whatever it may be.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: So so the canopy can tell you a lot, um, but sometimes it can be sneaky too.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but that's kind of the the top middle part of the canopy is where I always tell people if you're worried, you know, about a tree, um, the main thing that I would focus on in the canopy is if the top middle part starts to uh decline or have tip dieback, die back from you know tip backwards, that is that's the tree telling you something's going on with the roots, something is going on where it cannot get nutrients up to that tippy top part of the tree, and the first part to go.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I had uh a big oak tree and I saw some uh chicken of the woods mushrooms up there.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I I yes, I it's very tasty, but uh too high for me to get.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: But I was worried, and uh the team from Davy came and my friend climbed up there with uh a hammer, and I heard how uh hollow that was on the inside.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: That heartwood was was rotting away, yet there was no indication at the top of the tree.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I think that's a good example of why it's important to have a certified arborist uh examining your trees for that that reason uh and others, but that that that the heartwood could be going and yet you don't see it from the outside.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, there's all these little things that we look at every day, and you know, I it it's hard to even explain to someone, right?
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: We see things that everyone else just wouldn't because of how in it we are.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, I agree that is, you know, it's important to have someone that knows what they're doing.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because you don't want to take down a tree if you don't need to, right?
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: You want to make sure, okay, is this actually something that's bad for the tree or not?
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because the canopy looks good, can be deceiving.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: Chrissy, is there anything else you were thinking about when we're thinking about the anatomy of a tree?
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: Have we covered what we need to cover, or is there more to talk about?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: I think we've really covered the the basics, you know.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I just I I guess my thought was I just get so excited that I get to do this every day and talk about trees, you know.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's like such a thing that everyone loves, and I I'm glad I get got to share knowledge.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: And um, so thank you for letting me do that.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: And from my part, I just love learning this stuff.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's like being in science class again.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: I put it in a good way.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, around it.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Now, before I let you go, I said at the beginning of the show that we talked gardening.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna pick your brain a little bit about your love of dahlias and how that began.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I don't even know how that began, but I am obsessed with dahlias, and I cannot wait to see if my tubers made it from this winter.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and if if they did, you're gonna get some.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: So for your garden, if you want them.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: But again, but now I am obsessed and I will never go back.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because for a lot of people, dahlias are a lot of work in the fact that at the end of the season, most of us that love dahlias, we dig them up and we store them all winter long.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: And one of two things usually happens if they don't make it.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: They either rot or they dry out, and that's the trick, huh?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: And my I this is year two of me trying to save the tubers.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the first year, about a month in, mine rotted.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll see.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: This year, I they've been okay.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm trying not to get too excited, but can't wait until I can put them in the ground.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: When we finish up, I told Chrissy, I'm gonna send her some pictures of a a garden close to my house that is uh run by what we uh affectionately call a crazy dahlia lady.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: The beauty of these flowers and the time that they are in their prime, end of summer and into fall, once you get hooked, uh there's nothing like it.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: But I've also got some hints for you about keeping those tubers happy all winter.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so we'll be we'll be talking away from the show back and forth now.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: And and my obsession, my obsession is daffodils, so we'll be talking about that too.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: Christy, thanks for schooling me on the anatomy of a tree.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: I learned so much.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: It was so great to see you again.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: And uh who's your pal in the background?
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: I forget the the name because I see a a uh a tail wagging.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: You must know that it's the end of the show and you're gonna get to take him out.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: No, I think he I think he's sleep dreaming.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's Finn.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he does it.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, he's happy.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: See, he's happy about trees too.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: He loves it.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: All right, Christy.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: We will talk to you next time.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks so much.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for having me.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: One of the reasons I love hosting this podcast is getting to know people like Christy.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Not only learning about the trees, but learning a little bit about them.
• 22:25
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• 22:44
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• 22:49
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• 22:52
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• 22:53
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