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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Alart hourly update, breaking crime news Now.
- 0:04Speaker 2: I'm Jennifer Gould. A shooting in Arkansas has not only
- 0:08Speaker 2: divided a community, it also has a father facing first
- 0:12Speaker 2: degree murder charges. Aaron Spencer shot a man to death
- 0:15Speaker 2: after finding his missing fourteen year old daughter in a
- 0:18Speaker 2: car with him, but that man was no stranger. According
- 0:22Speaker 2: to the girl's family, Aaron Spencer and his wife, Heather
- 0:25Speaker 2: say Michael Fossler had a no contact order with their
- 0:29Speaker 2: daughter due to previous stocking and rape accusations against him. Still, though,
- 0:35Speaker 2: the sixty seven year old reportedly managed to reconnect with
- 0:38Speaker 2: their girl, so when Aaron Spencer discovered his daughter was
- 0:42Speaker 2: missing last week, he promptly called nine to one one,
- 0:46Speaker 2: initiating a search by Lonoke County Sheriff's Office deputies. However,
- 0:50Speaker 2: the couple soon learned their daughter was with the alleged predator.
- 0:55Speaker 2: A confrontation with Fossler ensued, resulting in him being shot
- 0:59Speaker 2: by Aaron Spencer. Fossler was pronounced dead at the scene.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Spencer was then taken into custody and released on a
- 1:06Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars bond. He's facing a
- 1:10Speaker 2: preliminary charge of first degree murder, a class y felony
- 1:14Speaker 2: that carries a potential sentence of ten to forty years
- 1:18Speaker 2: in prison. The girl's mother, Heather Spencer, expressed anger towards
- 1:22Speaker 2: the sheriff's office on social media, claiming they prioritized protecting
- 1:27Speaker 2: Fossler over her family. Fossler had also been arrested by
- 1:31Speaker 2: another law enforcement agency in July and booked for Internet
- 1:35Speaker 2: stocking of a child and sexual assault, according to officials.
- 1:38Speaker 2: Sheriff John Staley released this video about the case.
- 1:42Speaker 3: As your sheriff, it is our duty to conduct a thorough,
- 1:44Speaker 3: factual investigation. Law enforcement does not file charges. We gather
- 1:47Speaker 3: evidence that smittcates to the prosecutor. We will then decide whether
- 1:51Speaker 3: or not to file charges. Currently, official charges have not
- 1:54Speaker 3: been filed. I have not nor will I advocate for
- 1:57Speaker 3: any specific charge. This is the tragic situation and my
- 2:00Speaker 3: thoughts and prayers are with all those involved.
- 2:03Speaker 2: The incident has sparked outrage and concern in the community.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Many are praising Aaron for protecting his daughter, while others
- 2:11Speaker 2: are questioning the circumstances surrounding the shooting. The investigation is ongoing.
- 2:16Speaker 2: The prosecutor will ultimately decide what charges will be filed
- 2:20Speaker 2: against Aaron Spencer. The Spencers had set up a go
- 2:24Speaker 2: Fundme to collect money for Aaron's legal fees, but the
- 2:27Speaker 2: site shut it down, claiming it violated their terms of
- 2:30Speaker 2: service to collect monies for anyone charged with an alleged crime.
- 2:36Speaker 4: I'm Nicope Harden. In California, a jury found a man
- 2:39Speaker 4: guilty for the murder of his girlfriend who had disappeared
- 2:43Speaker 4: last December. Alice Alex Hermann, sixty one, disappeared from her
- 2:48Speaker 4: home in California. After her remains were found, her boyfriend,
- 2:52Speaker 4: musician Theobald Theo Lingle, was arrested for her murder. Prosecutors
- 2:58Speaker 4: say it was a three hour long audio recording of
- 3:01Speaker 4: Hermann pleading for her life that sealed the fate of
- 3:05Speaker 4: the suspect.
- 3:06Speaker 5: I don't see how you could listen to something like that,
- 3:10Speaker 5: what was being spoken by the fendant, to the words
- 3:12Speaker 5: he was using, the tone of it, the frankly sort
- 3:16Speaker 5: of banal nature of this argument that led up to it,
- 3:20Speaker 5: and not come to the conclusion that we always believe
- 3:23Speaker 5: was correct, which was first free murder.
- 3:25Speaker 4: It's unclear if the recording on the victim's phone was
- 3:28Speaker 4: taken intentionally, but it was very revealing. During that recording,
- 3:32Speaker 4: the jury had the opportunity to hear the woman say
- 3:35Speaker 4: that she wanted to stay in while her boyfriend insisted
- 3:38Speaker 4: she join him out for an evening. At one point,
- 3:42Speaker 4: he threatens Hermann, saying I could mash your f brain.
- 3:46Speaker 4: Over the next two hours, similar threats can be heard,
- 3:49Speaker 4: one after the other. As the woman pleads for mercy.
- 3:53Speaker 4: The man can be heard saying do you want to
- 3:55Speaker 4: live or do you want to die? Herman can be
- 3:58Speaker 4: heard saying the words fifty three times. The woman seems
- 4:03Speaker 4: to try to bite the man to escape, at which
- 4:06Speaker 4: point he says, You're going to die right now? Are
- 4:09Speaker 4: you ready? How do you want to die? He said,
- 4:12Speaker 4: by blunt force, trauma or something else, or maybe I
- 4:16Speaker 4: should choke you to death. A few moments later, the
- 4:18Speaker 4: woman's voice begins to weaken. Alex Herman was an accomplished
- 4:23Speaker 4: scientist and a musician. According to her obituary, she is
- 4:27Speaker 4: remembered as a rock star, a rock scientist, a brain surgeon,
- 4:31Speaker 4: a master at martial arts, and a finance wizard. Herman
- 4:34Speaker 4: enrolled in college at the age of sixteen and went
- 4:37Speaker 4: on to get her PhD in neuroscience, lending a job
- 4:41Speaker 4: with NASA. The suspect is a founding member of a
- 4:44Speaker 4: jazz rock band, Mister Bungle, where he played saxophone and piano.
- 4:48Speaker 4: He is scheduled for sentencing next month.
- 4:52Speaker 1: I'm Drew Nelson, a woman vanished in Colorado in twenty
- 4:55Speaker 1: nineteen after moving for a fresh start.
- 4:58Speaker 5: Now authority say.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Two suspects and custody accused of her murder. Douglas County
- 5:03Speaker 1: Sheriff Darren Winkley announced the arrest of Javier Alex Martel,
- 5:06Speaker 1: aged thirty, and Jennifer Premer, aged thirty eight. They face
- 5:10Speaker 1: his charges in the death of fifty one year old
- 5:11Speaker 1: Kimberly Bell, last seen alive July twenty second of twenty nineteen.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Belle's sister reported her missing a month later when she
- 5:18Speaker 1: stopped showing up for work. After years of investigation, police
- 5:22Speaker 1: now believe Bell was choked to death and dismembered. According
- 5:25Speaker 1: to witness statements, Bell was driving with Martell and Bremer
- 5:28Speaker 1: in her rental car the night she disappeared. Sheriff Weekly
- 5:31Speaker 1: says Martell was seated in the back.
- 5:33Speaker 6: Martell became enraised with Bell and put his arm around
- 5:36Speaker 6: Bell's neck, pulling her into the backseat of the vehicle.
- 5:40Speaker 6: At one point, it's alleged that Martell stopped choking Bell
- 5:44Speaker 6: just for a few moments. Then Martell decided to finish
- 5:48Speaker 6: the job and then pulled and then continued to choke
- 5:52Speaker 6: Bell until she was dead.
- 5:54Speaker 1: The pair then reportedly drove around Denver with Bell's body
- 5:57Speaker 1: in the car, stopping at a home depot where Martell
- 5:59Speaker 1: bought it acts Bremer used Bell's credit card to buy gas.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Later that night, they drove to a remote area near
- 6:05Speaker 1: ST's Park. Martel allegedly dismembered Bell's body, placing her remains
- 6:10Speaker 1: in trash bags. Authorities believe they disposed of the bags
- 6:13Speaker 1: in a dumpster at a nearby veterinary clinic, but the
- 6:15Speaker 1: investigation revealed Google searches on her account like quote take
- 6:19Speaker 1: a tracking system out of a forward focus and quote
- 6:22Speaker 1: does a phone ping location if off? Sheriff Weekly acknowledges
- 6:26Speaker 1: the years of work by the cold case team quote
- 6:29Speaker 1: We've never had a case quite like this in Douglas County.
- 6:32Speaker 1: We're glad to bring some closure for the family. Martel
- 6:35Speaker 1: now faces first degree murder charges and remains in custody
- 6:38Speaker 1: out a ten million dollar bond, while Bremer, who was
- 6:41Speaker 1: released on bond, faces charges of accessory to murder and
- 6:44Speaker 1: identity theft. Investigators are calling for anyone with information about
- 6:48Speaker 1: the case to contact the Douglas County Cold Case Team.
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