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ITV #193: Target, Boycotts & The Future of Black Money - Dr. Jamal Bryant breaks it down · Inside The Vault with Ash Cash

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[SPEAKER_03]: As Black people spend $12 million a day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's our game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At Target!
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[SPEAKER_00]: 12 million a day!
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[SPEAKER_00]: At Target!
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes!
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you could give the Black community one financial mandate for the next 12 months, what would it be?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Only one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Black people don't know how powerful they are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you imagine that this is the most powerful boycott?
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the history of black people, Trumroll, in 70 years, sometimes buying black still is supporting others.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Most of our churches talk about shouting, but never about money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Old Jewish rabbi has told me something that mess me up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, Jamal, stop asking your people to tie it, if you've never taught them to
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can't issue for 10% and I never taught you how to multiply the 90.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have been an author for over 12 years, I've written 10 books, four of them have been best sellers, and I've sold over 100,000 books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, let's go back to the video.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so welcome to another awesome episode of Inside The Vault with Ascash, the greatest money mindset show on the planet where we bring you the biggest thinkers, the boldest leaders and the people who are shifting culture, community, and capital in real time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Today we have a giant end of building
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[SPEAKER_00]: a visionary, a civil rights strategist, a faith leader who refuses to preach sermons that don't shake systems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about Reverend Dr. Jamal, Harrison Bryant, senior pastor of the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, one of the most influential voices of our generation and a man who is proven that ministry isn't just what you say, it's what you shift.
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[SPEAKER_00]: from mobilizing over 70,000 young people through the NAACP to founding one of the fastest growing AME churches in history to activating entrepreneurs, home owners and community leaders through faith-based economic empowerment, Dr. Bryant has consistently shown that the gospel is not just spiritual, it's social, cultural, political, and financial, and right now,
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[SPEAKER_00]: he is leading one of the boldest economic movements in America, whether it's challenging corporations like target calling out D.I.
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[SPEAKER_00]: roadbacks or rallying communities to redirect their dollars with purpose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pass the brine is reminding the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that economic protests is biblical, economic unity, is liberation, and economic strategy is survival, and today we are going even deeper into faith, money, power, and interfaith unity because if there was ever a time,
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[SPEAKER_00]: for Black Church, for the Black Church, the Muslim community, the Jewish community and all faith traditions to stand together on economic justice, the time is now, so get your notebooks, get your mindset ready and tap in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one is about faith and finances, purpose and protests, power and partnership, laser gentlemen, round of applause for Dr. Reverend Jamal Ryan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you, sir?
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[SPEAKER_03]: May you grew up watching wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe, that might be it, that might be it, that might be it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You saying like, Debbie, Debbie, man, look, so I was looking for the arena, like, who is here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to make sure that when my insiders look at this show that they feel the power and the energy, they know who I got in the building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You are better preaching than me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go, look, man, man, I'm just, I'm just the call.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not too late, you flowing in it right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for having me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love your energy, Brian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But those who don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, who is Jumont Wright?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a guy from Baltimore, living in Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Trying to push to this generation that the black churches still relevant.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That the black church
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've a really sees what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is the largest generation in the history of Black people in America who don't go to church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I am really feel like the church is outdated.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I really feel part of my life's mission is to shake the dust off of the church and get it back into the street corners.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you think that is, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because once upon a time, a black church was like a staple in our community, a regardless of what people were doing throughout the week on Sunday, they were going to church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think because of our success, we trust that God more in the struggle, now that we got the option to go to brunch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now we can go to play golf and I think that people are trying to find their way to their spiritual well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The guys that you know, guys, I know don't go to church, but they got a Jesus tattoo right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're walking around with a cross and don't own a Bible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so inside of all of us is a push to be connected to something higher to something spiritual.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that the church has a good product, it's just got bad rap and paper.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to figure out how to re-present the gift of what church is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let let let let let let let let let let let let let's talk about economic empowerment talk about target right yeah um you launched a national economic protests right that that
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[SPEAKER_00]: frankly shook the country.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was the moment that you realized that we needed to move from just a fast to like a full-on boycott?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so some super bass sisters out of Minneapolis started a boycott to bring the church back in, I said the bass.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Fast is 40 days from Ash Wednesday to Easter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... and i really thought we were going to have a conclusion by east of east of came pinnacles came junty of came for for july came labor day came thanks given came uh... nothing and so uh... we had to really adapt to the time because we had more men on uh... but
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[SPEAKER_03]: Target has stuck to his guns to his own peril.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Their stock has dropped from $153 a share to now $89 a share.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Their valuation has dropped by $12 billion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Their foot traffic has dropped by 9.7% and my phone's still not wearing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it was me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Forget 12 B, if you owe me 200, I'm trying to find.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about like the African American businesses that are in Target?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the reality is what I've been saying is I want to see I black businesses thrive and what I've been asking the community to do is to buy from them directly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We in a social media age, if you've asked me this in 96, I'm in a trick bag.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The reality is Target found out about most of them
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[SPEAKER_03]: because of what it is that they were doing online, people like Tabitha Brown, people like the lip bar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm asking them support them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I partnered with the US Black Chamber of Commerce when people go to targetfast.org.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I send them a digital directory.
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[SPEAKER_03]: of 150,000 black businesses around the country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see black businesses win.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't want them to do it at the expense of being connected to Target.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What were the key demands you made of Target?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And why were those items specifically tied to economic justice for black community?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we asked Target for five things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: First thing that we asked them, and you tell me whether you think I'm asking for too much, I'm reasonable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Number one is I said to them, Aish.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Diasa illegal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The trumpet ministry has wiped it out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I gave them a blank canvas and said, tell me what is the path forward for minorities to be able to come forward through the ranks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we just don't get entry level positions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They gave me nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's number one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Number two,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Give me five HBCUs you part.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a graduate of Morales.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My day I went to Morgan State.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My wife graduated from Mars Brown.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got three girls in college, Spellman, Hampton, Florida, A&M.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I pushed no school I got a tie to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As I told them, y'all picked the school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't care where there's Bethune Cookman.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care if it's Florida.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Memorial.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care if it's buoy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hick the fire.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: as to him done that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's number two.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Number three, the headquarters for Target is in Minneapolis, the home of George Floyd.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When George Floyd was murdered by the police, the president's CEO called the press conference.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I went and bought cotton, no protest, no riots, no petitions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He came out and said,
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[SPEAKER_03]: what I'm going to do is make a pledge of $2 billion I'm going to put back in the black community.
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[SPEAKER_03]: After Trump got into office, he did the electric slide backwards.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now mind your Joe Floyd already been there two years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They said that they would show us where they reinvested in the community by July 31st.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We now have to end it a year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that number three?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's number four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As Black people spend $12 million a day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's our game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At Target.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 12 million a day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At Target.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't find a Black business.
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[SPEAKER_03]: in America, that there's 12 million a day, what I asked to me is Lobo, $250 million.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Put it in black banks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I give it to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I give it to new birth, put it in black banks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And y'all choose the black bank.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't think I was being unfair.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that I was being unreasonable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The reality is that they are going down as a sink and ship unnecessarily when it is that they when they don't have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so do you think
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are they just simply ignoring the requests or they were told by the White House and not to meet with us because the White House knows if they make some concessions of the companies will do the same and my issue is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How much toilet paper you think cash per tell can buy?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How much ampou, you think Pam Bondy gonna get?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You gotta come back to your constituency base.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It ain't politics, it's commerce.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so for you to go down this far as unreasonable in his non-sensical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, some people see boycotts as withholding, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't see it that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You actually frame it as redirecting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you break down a difference between, you know, withholding and redirecting and why redirecting our dollars is more powerful than simply not spending.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm an 80's baby.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So when I was growing up, Nancy Reagan was the first lady to country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She had this old commercial.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Chancesy don't even know what I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Millennials don't even know what I was talking about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nancy Reagan had a commercial to say, just say no to drugs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They put out a frying pan, crack the A, this is your brain, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_03]: they were going to use it some way I said so I'm redirecting them to black people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a movement of foot of telling people don't buy nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't agree with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Black by with black businesses that that's the way that we thrive and so I think that the redirect is showing people what to do not just what not to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and I love that that concept because even you know a lot of the work that I do with like you know at risk you for citizen things in nature a lot of times when you tell let's say a young person get off the streets or don't do this and whatever if you don't have that alternative then you know they're not going
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[SPEAKER_03]: a couple of years ago, I came to Atlanta in 2019.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Before I came here in 2019, I was passionate and Baltimore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I had asked the biggest gun-by-back program in the state of Maryland.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No questions asked, you bring me your weapon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna give you $200.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Baltimore at the time, you know the home with a corner, a home with a wire,
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[SPEAKER_03]: We neck a neck with Detroit and Chicago over years so when I did it, it was a line wrapped around a corner.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, I never forget it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and we started at 10 a.m. Close that for three fifty a black navigator pulls up to the church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Two guys jump out of the navigator pop the trunk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's gone everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I tell my right hand man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can write shut down, run to the bank.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't got enough money for all these guns.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One of the guys here's me says, hey, Reif, we only need your $200.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got a job and I realized the ASHA was doing it wrong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that I wouldn't provide any system, any training, any education, or any opportunities.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're a street guy, $200, I ain't gonna take you to Cheese Cave Facts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you gotta figure out another way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that really began my journey on really figuring out what do we do around economic development is not throwing out peanuts, but really coming up with a plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What has been the most surprising response from corporations, churches, you know, church leaders or the community since the boycott began?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How much our community is a
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you don't have the liberty, the way you introduced me, uh, you don't have the liberty to do that if you go talk to a elementary school, because your, your presence is imposing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The key is going to be frightened even when you don't mean no harm, so I think what has happened is, black people don't know how powerful they are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you imagine that this is the most powerful boycott in the history of Black people in Trump role in 70 years?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have not come together with this level of strength since the Montgomery Bus Board got.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so we have been using our voice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the catch on each other.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And not been speaking to the system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not been speaking to structures.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we quick to talk about what the Black Church ain't doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Quick to talk about what Black politicians ain't doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we never hold the system accountable for creating an environment that brings us down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You had recently on one of your shows, a sister who supports the Trump administration, brilliant sister, passion and sister, and she speaks out against black people around one issue, abortion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But never holds accountable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I once the baby's a born and was the Republican platform.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Never says nothing about the loss of funds for Head Start programs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Says nothing about the quadrupling of the rate of health insurance that black mothers are down on the delivery table.
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[SPEAKER_03]: says absolutely nothing about how it is that our teachers and I given a livable wage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Republicans are pro-berved and not pro-life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because once the black babies get here, they put nothing in place to safeguard their existence.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so what I've been surprised about is, black people, one not knowing how powerful we are, number two, underestimating the power of unity and three not having a plan yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A project, 2025, been under development for 10 years, the average Japanese family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: average Japanese family y'all google it y'all look it up and chat GPT the average group black family Japanese family has a 100 year plan a hundred wow you're fam i don't even know them people my family got a work hard to do family reunion every two years we fall in out over matching t-shirts forget to play it
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think that we got to figure out what is our plan?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is our strategy for get to next 100?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where are we going to be for the midterm elections?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where are we going to be for 20, 28?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is our ask?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We upset and frustrated about the Democratic Party.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the Republican Party came and said, we want to do right by y'all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What are we saying is our demands to them?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so we got to be very clear about what it is that we want and all the more how we
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do we, how do we do that, though, where, you know, there are different views, different belief systems, like, how do we, how do we do that, though?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's fun to come and denominator, how the reality is that Malcolm Max and Martin King had two different payoffs, but they had one destination for the freedom and liberty of black people, one call for nonviolence, the other one said by enemies necessary, but they knew
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[SPEAKER_03]: the reality is we don't know where we want to see ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We are so glad that we can try on clothes and neem and markers and have dinner at roof criss that we don't realize that there's a much bigger issue at stake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've always preached that, you know, you preached, you preached a faith that moves beyond the pulpit into policy, economic,
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[SPEAKER_03]: when I realized that Jesus talked more about money that he did about shout.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And most of our churches talk about shout but never about money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Our old Jewish rabbi asked told me something that mess me up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, Jamal, stop asking your people to tie it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: say, hey man, Blake, we ain't got as much money as Jewish people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If I asked my people to dive, then this thing coming apart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He says, no, I'm not telling you that they shouldn't tie it, but he said it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying this to every Blake pastor that's listening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You shouldn't ask people to dive if you've never taught them to budget.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I can't ask you for 10% and I never taught you how to multiply the
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we put all of our focus on getting that 10% that we never show people how to multiply the 90.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The curse that the church is under is what we're transferring to our people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Asch, ask me what's that curse?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's that curse?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That curse is we use the labor of the government as given us non-profit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if all I know how to do is not make a profit, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How can I show you how to make one?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so we've got to figure out how it is we do it differently.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jesus, when he called the 12 disciples, he didn't call any young from seminary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't call any young from Bible College, y'all ain't gonna bleed us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He called all 12 from business.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, the people who I want to run the ministry,
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[SPEAKER_03]: people who have run a small business before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jesus only preached for three years, but he was a cop into for 30.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of us underestimate and undervalued Jesus' work ethic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Before you have a head of microphone, before you have a preach, he was built in chairs, tables, and ladders.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we got to figure out how we're going to build something and how we develop.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that because a lot of my financial empowerment work is about changing the paradigm of our community because a lot of it is, we're being taught work hard for money, we're taught the make money, but we're not taught how to manage money, how to multiply money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So those are the missing sort of pieces, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Changed the relationship with money, instead of working hard for money, money needs the work hard for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: what type of programs do you think or what's the, like how do we learn how to budget within our communities?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, by teaching it to church as I went to half every Sunday, I were half every Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so we got to maximize it with other principles of that before us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I am embarrassed that 82% of black people on a single share stock.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What church have you been in that has any conversation about crypto?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that gentrification is the fall to the church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why people are coming in, buying up everything around the church?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're not developing anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody who grew up in the black church that church had a building fund.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it was only for the fellowship hall.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't about all those empty houses down the street.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that when we begin to really operate,
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that kind of mindset that we'll be able to change our communities and that is consequential change of congregation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nubrath has become an incubator, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Entrepreneurs, homeowners, young leaders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does a financially empowered church look like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how do other churches replicate that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that realizing number one is going to be half a black people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They pass it on no everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bring in people who have expertise and give them space to be able to impart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I brought in an amazing brilliant black attorney by named Amber Saunders to show my congregation how to do a state plan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I brought in John Hope Bryant to talk about his program on how to get entrepreneurship done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got to bring in people who have expertise that you don't have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when I bring them in, I sit on the front row taking notes because I want them to see their past and these to learn as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that all of us grow and develop at the same speed of life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you could give the black community one financial mandate for the next 12 months, what would it be and why?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Only one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The mandate I would say,
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[SPEAKER_03]: is go one month and only buy what you need from black people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think 87% of all black businesses only have one employee, and that's the founder.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If we're able to really create an economic ecosystem, it would change the whole trajectory by a community.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Go one month, not a year, go a month.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And whenever you go to eat, do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then when you go on to buy clothes, do that, or you got date night, do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do we change sort of like the supply chain, though?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, right here, because sometimes buying black,
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[SPEAKER_00]: still is supporting others, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like we, you know, like, let's just say a lot of us has fashion lines, let's just say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But most of the shirts that were buying are from the Asians anyway, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or if we have a beauty supply, whatever the case may be, a lot of the supplies coming from outside of the community, like, you know, how do we change that focus with weak also become manufacturers or suppliers?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Make America Great Again Hats Made in Vietnam The Trump Watch made in China
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a lot of stuff we think is going to weigh people in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right, right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I think that there's a process, but I think that we also got to enlarge our tentacles to understand the power of global trade.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Africa is the fastest growing market and we not doing business there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's not forget that Africa got three stock exchanges at our own.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you can't trade here, let's trade over there and figure out how it is that we do business with ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk a little bit about, you know, interfaith unity and, you know, collect the economics, you know, more than ever, like we live in a space of division and I, and I kind of, I mean, you know, I, I started to see that, I mean, even prior to Trump when you started thinking about
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of division, polarization, you speak boldly about Christian, Muslim, Jewish unity, and economic solidarity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does real interfaith unity look like in practice?
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[SPEAKER_03]: As we agree to disagree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The evangelicals can teach us an amazing lesson to ask Trump to sign off on two things, to be against number one, same-sex marriage, be against abortion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Say, if you go with these two things, we'll turn a blind eye to everything else you do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that our unity has got to be, what do we agree on?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We spend all of our time on what we don't agree on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Think about how many black denominations we got that we split.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you ain't safe, because you don't speak in tongues.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You ain't say, because you ain't go underwater.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You ain't say, because y'all let women wear pants.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You ain't say, because y'all wear an earrings.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think that once we get beyond all of the unity and find out what is our common denominator
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[SPEAKER_00]: How can churches, mosque, and synagogues collaborate economically, not just spiritually to elevate underserved communities?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think to talk, we in the same community, and not figure out what it is that we do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The nation of Islam, you going to hood of Selam Beampat, you telling me sister Jefferson can't sell sweet potato pot?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's figure out what their motto is that works and really begin to immobilize it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Imagine what it would mean for our community with ice jumping out at schools, at jobs, if the nation is long, trying to arm a bar as at the church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, saying you ain't got to subscribe to Elijah Muhammad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You ain't got to pledge allegiance to the honorable Louis Farakhan But this is how we protect our community.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've been doing it effectively and you have been doing it minimally So they are some common grounds that I think that we can stand on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah What role does this faith leadership play in healing bridging and rebuilding economic trust amongst communities?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think right in the king said it best, can we all just get along?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, is I think that it begins with in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do we forgive each other and move forward?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That we've got to be a full right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I forgive the black pastors that endorsed Donald Trump, but y'all got a repent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you, I mean, I, I, I, I, I forgive Nicki Minaj for saying that down Trump was a great leader before the United Nations on the day that the Epstein list was released.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I forgive them, forgive her, I forgive Tim Scott and other black Republican elected officials who have sold their souls at the price of our communities welfare.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I forgive them, but forgiveness has got to come with a change of behavior and a change of action.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you mobilize movements at every stage of your life, what's the next next big move for Dr. Jamal Bryant and what should the people be prepared for?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dr. King said that the next step after civil rights, your mentor has said it best is civil rights.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dr. King died pulling together the poor people's campaign, and so I think it's our responsibility to build a community economic development agenda.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're getting ready to build on our campus 100 mini homes that I'm going to sell to Millennials so that they understand what first time home buyership looks like and what it means.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were like
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[SPEAKER_00]: as somebody who is a leader, a businessman, what would you say is the greatest money advice that you've received so far and what that money advice, what was the most important thing you learned from that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: the best financial advice I got that I want to give to the people who are connected to this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want you to write it down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to bless your life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's simple.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's easy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want you to teach your children it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My dad gave it to my sister and I still follow it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's called
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[SPEAKER_03]: the 10% to God, save or invest 10% for yourself and for your future and live off of 80% of your income.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That formula for me has proven itself to be effective for the last 30 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If Dr. Moal Luther King, Jr. and Malcolm X were alive today, what do you think they would say about the current state of economics, faith and activism in the black community?
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were saying, Nick Rose, what are y'all doing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's going on?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We, we die for y'all to be here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What are y'all doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I, and I think that, um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that we got a whole lot of work to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We owe it to the ancestors, how we owe it to bowls who face barking dogs and fire houses.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We owe it to bowls who were jailed with no probable cause.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We owe it to bowls that were spit on and turned away from inner and elementary schools.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We owe it to bowls who had to memorize the constitution just for them to be able to vote.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I think that we have taken a modicum of success for granted when there's a whole lot more grand we need to cover.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, not appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know what to say, but what's the feeling, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like as a leader.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you get a lot of criticism online.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People say what you are, what you aren't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Knowing that, you know, you put your life for our community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How does that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How does that make you feel when it's our community?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really, you know, the most opinionative about what you do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: John Maxwell said, if you want to be liked cell ice cream, but after you sell it, it's going to be somebody allergic to sprinkles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My detractors really give me confirmation on one of the right track that I'm doing the right thing, that they are paying attention.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know anybody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: who's done something great or significant that has had a hundred percent approval.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A hundred percent buy-in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It goes with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think social media has softened us that we look for like views and shares when you don't even understand that sometimes criticism is what makes you better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how do you do you look at the criticism?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you block it out like hot?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I look at it because sometimes it helps me to see stuff from a different bandage point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And let me say to you, critiques don't always come from haters.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: People who love you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: ought to be able to speak into you for you to think about it differently, for you to evaluate it differently, for you to be able to shop and what is your perspective.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I welcome it, I don't digest it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And does it hurt, does it hurt, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it, does it
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[SPEAKER_03]: She said, don't take to heart from people who have done less than you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the one, if you ain't doing the work, that's the one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, then I'm not beating my head up against the wall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's flip a little bit, you know, route, entrepreneurship, leadership, because for me, like I'm a background, I was a banker for 15 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I manage people, things around nature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of what I learned from running banks and managing people, I've been able to convert that into entrepreneurship and build, build businesses, systems, things of that nature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What would you say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: are the top leadership skills that you've learned as being a pastor that you can impart in those who are venture and out into entrepreneurship.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, is identify your weakness.
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[SPEAKER_03]: heavy heart and a man for mobilization.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a heart for details.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm coming to your studio and say, Oh, man, this brick wall is great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to read it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a comportment to say wish a to read.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can think about how many gallons is going to eat that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just telling my staff, hey, this is the vision, and so you got to find people who can pick up where you left all and a lot of people fail Because they become a one-man band.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They try to play the guitar in the tambourine Dr. King was an amazing speaker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was not an organiser
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The March on Washington was not his event.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got to surround yourself with people who can do what you can't live.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how do we, how do we, what, like, what's your advice around putting egos aside, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or kind of building that team?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause one of the things I felt like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I just think, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to put it too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Gifted people have to come into grasp of their humanity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's only so much I can do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's an African proverb that says, uh, if you want to go fast, go buy yourself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to go far, take somebody with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, because I know that there's a whole lot of grant I ground, I got to cover.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I try to take as much competent and dedicated and integrity as people with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I know like in entrepreneurship, everybody wants to be the boss, everybody wants to be the leader.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was the biggest misconception of entrepreneurship that you would say as you see?
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[SPEAKER_03]: is one is going to happen overnight and two that is going to happen with our failure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, your failures is what makes you a success and so you got to embrace the failure and realize it wasn't a failure if you learned something from it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: powerful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you are you are you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what's it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's it though?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's around artificial intelligence and is that something that you're the wave of the future?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, uh, this summer I had a summer camp for 150 kids to teach them coding.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd teach them robotics.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: To teach them AI.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Benjamin Mays form prison, more house college said, you've got to run faster or you'll fave a left by it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In 10 years, the only people who will have a job of those in the services.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Every other job is going to be taken away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so we got to find a way to use the tool to I've managed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And do you think because like I see it as a shift like a like a wealth transfer right now is here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, we in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I. Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you can imagine a year from now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And for those of you all who are watching.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We had to do a whole lot of juggling of our schedules wrangling of our schedules in order to make this tape and work a year from now eight months from now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can do this podcast and not be in the same room.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but y'all won't know it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's whole records out right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on the charts on the charts right is home movies coming in Netflix and whole loop with no actor none so we got to figure out how it is that we get in front of the world what does the world look like though right like paid me a picture right two pictures yeah what is the the world look like with black people not
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[SPEAKER_00]: fully embracing AI and jobs of laws, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then paint the picture of us saying, all right, we're gonna, we're grabbing this and we're gonna move forward.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we grabbing it and move forward.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then we got Wakanda.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's nobody who is more creative as we are, more innovative as we are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All of us are Afro Futurists, whether we see it or not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if we get that kind of skill set to add to it, it's gonna be the Jetsons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If we don't,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the Flintstones, so I think that crime is going to escalate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Poverty is going to escalate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Addiction is going to escalate suicide is going to escalate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: escalate because people are going to really feel hopeless and feel like they have no options.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why you all have got to get on it right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you know, what would be a message or you know, you know, one of my initiatives is focusing on like formally incarcerated men and women and their families.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think we could do as a community to really serve that population?
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm popular opinion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The greatest of us has been incarcerated me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I say to my brothers who in Islam.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Islam's success, in part, is built on the Black Church's failure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Malcolm X was the son of a Baptist preacher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was Malcolm Little, made a mistake, went to jail.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When it went to jail, nobody from the church went to see you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: None of the deacons came to pray for, but the nation Islam saw his value.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How would the church be looked at differently?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How would black men and church be looked at differently?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If Malcolm X came out as a minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ, it'd be a whole different kind of conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We are missing the best in our brightest, because we are not receiving with open arms and open hearts, our brothers who are returning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that we've got to be intentional about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any programs that you've done?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've got an amazing prison ministry that I'm proud of at New Birth, a life-changing event happened for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did a human chain around the city jail, 2,000 people locked in in prayer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The cell mates was banging on the window, because they were seeing that mama out there praying, seeing that baby mama out there praying, seeing that kids out there praying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they banging on the window.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, gosh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got so heavy that the warden sent for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Said these guys are really touching the impact.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come in and speak to him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He brought all the inmates together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're not all on him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He brought a great number of them together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And 150 of them got saved that day, man, I'm on top of the world, thinking I'd have made them amazing difference.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, my way out the door to ward and said to me, now what you're going to do about housing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, what you mean, sir, you said if these brothers don't have any way to stay when they get out, they're going to end up back here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Bible is nice, the tracks are cute.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you need a real program that's not really around emotion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but that's really substantive and it helped me to really reprocess that the housing insecurity crisis is not just about young couples.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It ain't just about a white pick of fence right now asked the average person don't get their first home until they're forty seven Yeah, because they're housing rates and so yeah, we got to do something to safeguard our brothers and let me say Let me back that thing up That fastest-going prison population is black women So when we talk about returning citizens Yeah, we can't just talk about the brothers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we got to also make space for our sisters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's powerful
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, any, any, so two, two days, any last advice that you would leave for my insiders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it also is that, is there a question that I didn't ask that you would, would want me to ask to share with my audience?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My, you know, former mentor Mike Murdoch said something to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, if it doesn't bother you, it's not a sign to you.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, whatever it is that irritate you is your assignment and you suppose to be fixing it Yeah, you suppose to be challenging it you should be improving it or you should be destroying it only you know what that is
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[SPEAKER_03]: But those, your second one is what didn't you ask, is how do people get involved in engaged?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How much you go to targetfast.org, go to targetfast.org.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a send you a digital directory of 250,000 black businesses around the country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So no matter where you're watching this podcast, I'm going to show you how you can support a black business.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll give you updates in terms of what's happening with the target borquette and how you can get involved in your local
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If people want to connect with you, we can they find you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: On all social media platforms, Jamal Bryant, if it is not verified, it ain't me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Every account I'm on got a blue check beside it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So look for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Follow me and I'll look for it to connect them with all
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Joe, Reverend Dr. Jamal, Brian, we are closing out the vault, another awesome episode of Inside the Vault with Ascash, the greatest money mindset show on the planet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will see you next time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: same time, same place, in God's will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace!