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- 0:02Speaker 1: Dangerous morning show club business. They put y'all together. Y'all
- 0:09Speaker 1: are like a mega for us. Y'all just took over
- 0:11Speaker 1: every with dollars. Your post is Chris Brown. I've officially
- 0:15Speaker 1: joined the breakfast club. Say something, mother, I'm with it,
- 0:18Speaker 1: dangerous morning show crekfas club petitions. Yeah, I put your
- 0:42Speaker 1: new fargis on the g. I cam into the bloody
- 0:45Speaker 1: bottoms is under knee because I'm got it out the streets.
- 0:49Speaker 1: I keep my hunting rains. Is that my g I
- 0:51Speaker 1: remember heating. I'm allay the whole ge. Now pay us
- 0:55Speaker 1: a call because I'm hauling. I was waiting up getting
- 0:57Speaker 1: raked in. I'm haunting. I was broken. Now I'm rich,
- 1:00Speaker 1: deep foggy all this as I know, my body got
- 1:03Speaker 1: me dripping trip straight up my day, y'all. James, I'm
- 1:05Speaker 1: a big prup If I got up handa lean, I'm
- 1:08Speaker 1: a SIPs. I run the rats up with my queen
- 1:10Speaker 1: like learning and nip. But I got rich on all
- 1:12Speaker 1: these I did it forget back. I hadn't go through
- 1:14Speaker 1: the struggle. I didn't forget thing. I hoped this out
- 1:17Speaker 1: of them. Maybe getting out sit back deep don't mean
- 1:20Speaker 1: now because I got the big band because I'm getting
- 1:22Speaker 1: money now. I know you heard that young Gonda corner
- 1:25Speaker 1: that I had to serve Craig. I'm gonna frounting me
- 1:27Speaker 1: some peace and they're getting birds back. We came up
- 1:29Speaker 1: on dirty money. I gave it a bird bad off
- 1:31Speaker 1: the rain, and I came out the new boot. Either
- 1:34Speaker 1: you running y'all gang or your soup boop got a
- 1:36Speaker 1: new all tim minute, dude, Ain't I who knew? I
- 1:41Speaker 1: got the new fargis on the gee. I dram into
- 1:44Speaker 1: the bloody bottoms. It's on the knee because I'm got
- 1:47Speaker 1: it out the strings. I keep on hunting rags. I
- 1:50Speaker 1: my g I remember hitting. I'm allway the whole team
- 1:53Speaker 1: nine can't that's a call because I'm alling. I was
- 1:56Speaker 1: waiting up getting rags and I'm any. I was broken.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Now I'm rich deep foppy. I've been waiting up there
- 2:02Speaker 1: getting the money. Whoa woa got it? Vad jazz teddy ball?
- 2:05Speaker 1: Whoa to vench it to my toes to twins up
- 2:08Speaker 1: my boats. I put in new Ape water like a boat.
- 2:11Speaker 1: I was damnade on my What was you? Because I
- 2:13Speaker 1: know you turned Joe back on me? Just to get
- 2:15Speaker 1: some racks. I seen you swarm back because I'm in
- 2:17Speaker 1: the black back New Damond's on me a flash, this
- 2:19Speaker 1: a snapcheck because I've been getting hay get like Damad's
- 2:23Speaker 1: on me. Look like Lemonad got my baby Mama Dad
- 2:26Speaker 1: New been tag trying to get it No Joe like
- 2:28Speaker 1: a sitting see Rose right umbrellas. When I'm in the rain,
- 2:32Speaker 1: I just mind my business. I got brothers that at
- 2:35Speaker 1: the time. I ain't getting all the rabbits. Just talk
- 2:37Speaker 1: about it. I going up. I ain't got no sky living. Yeah,
- 2:42Speaker 1: ain't I drammen take bloody bottoms is under knee because
- 2:46Speaker 1: I'm got it out streaks. I keep on hunting rains,
- 2:49Speaker 1: is my I remember hitting them all way the whole
- 2:52Speaker 1: King nine came. That's a call because I'm hauling. I
- 2:55Speaker 1: was waiting up getting racks and I'm haunting. I was
- 2:58Speaker 1: broken Now I'm rinsty top I yeah, yeah, wake up,
- 3:21Speaker 1: wake up, wake y'all. Just is your time to get
- 3:24Speaker 1: it off your chats, whether you're a man or blas,
- 3:28Speaker 1: we want to hear from you on the breakfast blood. Hello,
- 3:31Speaker 1: who's this you know it's anonymous? Anonymous? Get it off
- 3:33Speaker 1: your chats, bro, Yeah, I want to talk about basically
- 3:37Speaker 1: the difference between the term sex and gender. So basically,
- 3:42Speaker 1: sex is basically what refers to the penis of the vagina,
- 3:48Speaker 1: So that's what terms. It's your female or male, not gender.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Gender is basically different like um attributes that you have
- 3:56Speaker 1: that sidy determined whether you act feminine, masculine, or something
- 4:00Speaker 1: in between. So that's why people say there's more than
- 4:02Speaker 1: two genders, which is true, but there's not more than
- 4:05Speaker 1: two sectors. The only two sectors are female and male.
- 4:08Speaker 1: But there's more than two genders because you could determine
- 4:10Speaker 1: how you see. I ain't got time for all this
- 4:12Speaker 1: woke this this morning, bro. What you're talking about? Man,
- 4:15Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're talking about right now.
- 4:17Speaker 1: What I'm saying, all right is that basically people referred
- 4:21Speaker 1: to gender, they're really referring to sex because there's a
- 4:23Speaker 1: different between sex and gender. Who who referred? All right? Man,
- 4:26Speaker 1: I'm awake, I'm awake, but I'm not walking. I'm awake
- 4:29Speaker 1: this morning, but I'm not walked. Even the way that
- 4:31Speaker 1: that came from. You woke people so tight and need
- 4:33Speaker 1: some sleep. I don't know what are you talking about
- 4:34Speaker 1: Alex what's up? What's up? What's up? Alex Envy? Did Dune?
- 4:39Speaker 1: Yes up? What's up? Bron Man? What's up? Head? Dune?
- 4:43Speaker 1: Got that bread, got that beauty? And huh yeah, jay
- 4:46Speaker 1: Z gotta got a billy, got it Billy? How they
- 4:49Speaker 1: did it? Do we learn from jay from which one?
- 4:52Speaker 1: You said? What we learn from this year? Or do
- 4:55Speaker 1: we learn from jay Z? You learn from both of them?
- 4:57Speaker 1: You have more than one teach in school, didn't you. Yeah,
- 4:59Speaker 1: help the you learned from a lot of people talking
- 5:01Speaker 1: about why y'all saying such stupid things seriously? Or why
- 5:04Speaker 1: are you wake up in the morning just to say
- 5:06Speaker 1: things that you give no thoughts to whatsoever? Do you
- 5:09Speaker 1: only learn from one person throughout your whole life? Charlo Man,
- 5:12Speaker 1: We ain't got to do it like that, Charlotte. I'm
- 5:13Speaker 1: just saying, you know, if he has to learn from
- 5:15Speaker 1: his old Jez, he learned from Elijah Mohammad message to
- 5:17Speaker 1: the Black Man. Elia Mohammad was always talking about doing
- 5:20Speaker 1: for self and owning your own So what are we
- 5:22Speaker 1: talking about here? We learned from a lot of different
- 5:24Speaker 1: people in life. Don't forget that bad to get that man?
- 5:27Speaker 1: All right? Man, I would bless that pace. Bro. Yeah, y'all, y'all,
- 5:30Speaker 1: y'all just fishing me. What's man, they're getting it up there,
- 5:34Speaker 1: chest Shall Man, let's just let them talk. They do
- 5:35Speaker 1: sound a little stupid this morning. Michael. Hey, how's been doing? Brother?
- 5:39Speaker 1: Good morning? Everybody? Good good boyd game you know if
- 5:43Speaker 1: you're chess man, yep, I'm calling from Dell with you.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Come on my way to work to Davy alone way.
- 5:49Speaker 1: But I love you guys. I always love think to
- 5:51Speaker 1: the show. You guys are amazing. Thank you, sir. We're
- 5:54Speaker 1: pretty sure man. You're welcome. Sharlomn the guy. I love you, brother,
- 5:58Speaker 1: I to work and everything. Man, we love you, Bro.
- 6:02Speaker 1: I love you too, my brother. Thank you. Appreciate you. King. Then, hello, Hey,
- 6:07Speaker 1: what's going on? Charlotte Man? Good morning? How are you sir?
- 6:11Speaker 1: This morning? Man? I was at I was at usp
- 6:15Speaker 1: Ashfield when you were on Wendy Williams Show. Man. Come on, man,
- 6:20Speaker 1: I remember you. Man? Is that a jail? I'm okay, yes, yes,
- 6:24Speaker 1: well I did one hundred and eighty months of the
- 6:26Speaker 1: FEN first time Welcome Home I did from yes, sir,
- 6:30Speaker 1: I did from ninety nine to two thousand and fourteen,
- 6:34Speaker 1: and then from two thousand and fourteen to two weeks
- 6:37Speaker 1: ago a Supervisor release. I had to do sixty months
- 6:39Speaker 1: of Supervisor release. My boy, Mercy, what did you do? Yeah?
- 6:43Speaker 1: I couldn't even I couldn't even call a person like you.
- 6:46Speaker 1: If I called you, I would have got violated on
- 6:48Speaker 1: my supervisors release. What did you do? What did you do? Bro? Man?
- 6:51Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I sold some guns
- 6:54Speaker 1: to somebody. They robbed the bank, and guess what. They
- 6:58Speaker 1: introduced me to undercover and I sold him nine hundred
- 7:02Speaker 1: pounds of marijuana. And guess what, that's what they got
- 7:04Speaker 1: me on and they bamily guns of marijuana. Man, Why
- 7:08Speaker 1: you don't write a rap album? I mean, I mean,
- 7:10Speaker 1: it is what it is, you know. I mean I
- 7:12Speaker 1: had to wear it. I had to do my time.
- 7:14Speaker 1: And I remember when you were just listening to uh.
- 7:18Speaker 1: I mean you were on Windy Williams showed for like
- 7:20Speaker 1: four hours. I was in Entry, South Carolina crazy and honestly,
- 7:27Speaker 1: I could not call a radio station while I was
- 7:29Speaker 1: on paper. Were you still? It was something he said
- 7:32Speaker 1: back then. It's still on your mind because you know
- 7:33Speaker 1: we've been in breakfast club for ten years. So what
- 7:35Speaker 1: did he say fifteen years ago that you still with
- 7:38Speaker 1: right now? Man, I'm gonna be your hunters with you?
- 7:41Speaker 1: You went off from was it crazy bones? Hold up? Man?
- 7:47Speaker 1: It was hey, it was That's all I'm gonna say.
- 7:52Speaker 1: There that one of the bones, Bro. You know that
- 7:54Speaker 1: seventeen years ago. Bro, you gotta let it go. That
- 7:56Speaker 1: was I don't think I ever went off on one
- 7:58Speaker 1: of the bones. But I will say this, I appreciate
- 8:02Speaker 1: your enthusiasm because I can tell that you took you
- 8:05Speaker 1: missed doing regular things like just picking up the phone
- 8:08Speaker 1: to call a radio station. So you're really appreciative to
- 8:10Speaker 1: be able to do that now, man. And I'm gonna
- 8:13Speaker 1: be honest with you, you know, on this Twitter thing
- 8:16Speaker 1: and all these all the things. Man's been cloud chasing
- 8:20Speaker 1: doing everything what everybody else does, right, But I'm just
- 8:23Speaker 1: seeing how the I'm gonna be honest with you, man,
- 8:27Speaker 1: Why do you keep seeing? You gonna be honest? What
- 8:29Speaker 1: are you lying about? That's what he said before he
- 8:32Speaker 1: was locked up. Let him go, Charlomagne. You know what, brother,
- 8:34Speaker 1: it sounds like this is a conversation you want to
- 8:36Speaker 1: have with Charlomagn. You don't know. I'll give you. I
- 8:38Speaker 1: know there's a lot he gotta catch up. There's a
- 8:41Speaker 1: lot of things he gotta catch up on. Hold on, man,
- 8:43Speaker 1: he got there's a lot of things he got to
- 8:44Speaker 1: catch up on. He's been listening to you twenty years ago,
- 8:47Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. You know, I appreciate it. I've
- 8:50Speaker 1: been doing radio that long and it's been futid that's
- 8:52Speaker 1: been listening to me that long, But I appreciate you.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Gotta fill him in, Charlomagne, it says twenty years ago.
- 8:57Speaker 1: I'm sure he gots baggy jeans and the beat, but stills,
- 8:59Speaker 1: you just gotta help him out that Twitter thing, that
- 9:02Speaker 1: Twitter tell him hit me up on that Twitter thing.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. All right, get it off your chest
- 9:06Speaker 1: eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If
- 9:08Speaker 1: you need to vent, hit us up right now. It's
- 9:10Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club coming. Did your time to get it
- 9:14Speaker 1: off your chest? Whether you're Man or blast, so you
- 9:17Speaker 1: better have the same endutry we want to hear from
- 9:19Speaker 1: you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this Angel? Angel?
- 9:23Speaker 1: Will suck getting off your chest? Hey, I just want
- 9:25Speaker 1: to say that, Hey, Seanan is right. I think guards
- 9:28Speaker 1: the vindicant and I'm I'm gonna keep you proof. Why
- 9:30Speaker 1: when when YG was there and he was giving those
- 9:33Speaker 1: uh Spanish words, you were the first one answering all
- 9:36Speaker 1: of it, all the Spanish words before Angel. Think. I think, Charlotte,
- 9:43Speaker 1: it might be Angel. That wasn't me. That was drama?
- 9:45Speaker 1: Was the board out that that? That is not true?
- 9:47Speaker 1: Why don't you stop claim you that wasn't me, that
- 9:50Speaker 1: was Angel? That you Dominican? No, okay, I thought you
- 9:54Speaker 1: wanted to claim envy, all right, I don't want to
- 9:56Speaker 1: claim man, Why would I want to claim envy? Oh
- 9:58Speaker 1: you don't want him to be Salvadorian. Maybe he's Savadurian instead.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Oh maybe he thank'd be Just just just just own it.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Just teach me a sentence, man, say something, I'll repeat it.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Uh who saw? And you know? See, okay, I got that.
- 10:14Speaker 1: What do you say? He said? I like breakfast? Hello?
- 10:17Speaker 1: Who's this we comedian? Say? And get you off your chests.
- 10:21Speaker 1: I just want to thank God for this stage, right,
- 10:24Speaker 1: you know, I know. Look, I'm thank God for this day,
- 10:28Speaker 1: for this job. I'm so blessed on Holly Favorite. I
- 10:31Speaker 1: got my own business, not just one of to thank God.
- 10:34Speaker 1: You're not just blessed in Holly Favorite, you're blessed black
- 10:37Speaker 1: and Holly favorite. You. You're absolutely but I am blessed
- 10:41Speaker 1: like a Holly Favorite, and I just want to thank
- 10:43Speaker 1: God for it. Thank you. Hello. Who's this? What's up?
- 10:47Speaker 1: Every from Ashville, North Carolina? Again? Looks up? Bro? You
- 10:51Speaker 1: you started your business this weekend? Man, I started me
- 10:53Speaker 1: of my business this weekend as a hot dog cart
- 10:56Speaker 1: called Bunnett LLLC. I like that. That's dope. Congratulations, sir.
- 11:03Speaker 1: You should have came out to the seminar. Man, you'd
- 11:05Speaker 1: have had over a thousand people wanting to my dogs. Brother.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, that's what I'm waiting on. Man, I
- 11:09Speaker 1: gotta get you this money. Man. I ain't man a man.
- 11:12Speaker 1: I want to thank y'all. Man you Charlemagne Angel ye
- 11:15Speaker 1: oh man, how you do a family guy? Man? I
- 11:17Speaker 1: really love that man, and there's a lot of family
- 11:19Speaker 1: men out here to look up to that man. Keep going,
- 11:22Speaker 1: keep doing that, Charlemagne. Man, you just keep us in
- 11:25Speaker 1: from inspired and everything. Angel. I love you. You're beautiful
- 11:28Speaker 1: and everything. Baby. Um. I would like, oh y'all to
- 11:31Speaker 1: take a look at Black Elachian here he hiked the
- 11:34Speaker 1: Appalachian tril and he fights the underground railroad black election.
- 11:38Speaker 1: He got you tubes up and he just trying to show,
- 11:40Speaker 1: you know, black people that we can hike in because
- 11:42Speaker 1: if the world comes to an end, boy, we ain't
- 11:44Speaker 1: gonna know how to do nothing, So you know, check
- 11:46Speaker 1: him out. Any rapper to Loco. All right, bro, thank
- 11:49Speaker 1: you man. I say that all the time. If it's
- 11:51Speaker 1: a nuclear bomb or something was to hit, like, what
- 11:54Speaker 1: how would people survive? People don't know how to fish,
- 11:56Speaker 1: they don't know how to hunt, they don't know how
- 11:58Speaker 1: to live off the land. Nothing. D J, good morning,
- 12:01Speaker 1: Hey dj Amy, what's going on? Man? What's up? CJ? Hey?
- 12:05Speaker 1: Dj oh, all right, what up? CJ? Hey envied uh
- 12:09Speaker 1: slo man. Yeah, we here every morning, chix hamon m
- 12:15Speaker 1: for nine years. We'll six oh five to toda. I
- 12:17Speaker 1: got you. Hey, three things real quick. Antel, you are
- 12:20Speaker 1: so beautiful. If I wasn't murried, you'll be my woman
- 12:23Speaker 1: and you wouldn't be hird me like you're doing your
- 12:26Speaker 1: boyfriend and um oh, you don't say thank you, and
- 12:31Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm gonna thank you for this and my boyfriend. No,
- 12:35Speaker 1: I just thank you beautiful. You'll see my woman. If
- 12:37Speaker 1: I wasn't murried, I might shout out to your wife.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Black men, no cheat broad yea yea hey, that's my
- 12:44Speaker 1: second point. Last Tuesday, I'm getting off for work, and
- 12:47Speaker 1: I was fine to see my side checking the first
- 12:49Speaker 1: thing out here in the cause black men don't see.
- 12:51Speaker 1: I want to say you lord ball and shalomn because
- 12:54Speaker 1: once I heard, I turn right around my wife. We
- 12:58Speaker 1: are we are there doing God's work. And you need
- 13:01Speaker 1: to stop running around here like a little black boy
- 13:03Speaker 1: and start being a real black man because black men
- 13:05Speaker 1: don't cheap, but black boys do. Your side check. Yeah,
- 13:10Speaker 1: I'm no, it's not worth it's exactly sir. How old
- 13:13Speaker 1: are you? See what I'm saying. You're still in that phase.
- 13:17Speaker 1: I understand, but you know you gotta be a black man,
- 13:19Speaker 1: not a black boy, sir. He's right right. And hey,
- 13:22Speaker 1: the last thing is everybody swam to an empty for
- 13:25Speaker 1: your game show. But I'm the same way, like I'm
- 13:28Speaker 1: trilling my batting. I'm free to say and to whatever
- 13:31Speaker 1: I want to do. The man one who be fake
- 13:34Speaker 1: man and trying to just themselves goes through the one
- 13:36Speaker 1: on the download. All right, listen. With that said, I
- 13:39Speaker 1: want you to know that today's National Peaches and Cream Day. Sir.
- 13:42Speaker 1: All right, I shout out to what twelve. Hey, that'll
- 13:46Speaker 1: be my dessert for the night. There you go. And
- 13:49Speaker 1: if you look, if you get a little cream on
- 13:51Speaker 1: your bottom lip, just lick it off with your tongue
- 13:53Speaker 1: like a real man. Hey. Hey, that's what my side
- 13:57Speaker 1: used to do. That's what stop talking about your side. Say,
- 14:00Speaker 1: grow up, sir, he misses her. Get it off your chests.
- 14:05Speaker 1: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If
- 14:08Speaker 1: you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the
- 14:09Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. DJ mvy Angela Yee,
- 14:17Speaker 1: Charlomagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. We got
- 14:19Speaker 1: a special guests in the building, sir. Jeez, what I'm dough.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Welcome back, come on man, back home baby, Legend of
- 14:26Speaker 1: the snow Man. Yes, sir, I'm ready. What's the expectations
- 14:29Speaker 1: for you when you put together these thug motivation projects,
- 14:31Speaker 1: because these are these are special projects. Yeah, I'm in
- 14:34Speaker 1: for me. It's just like just making sure I'm in pocket.
- 14:38Speaker 1: And and it's a real body of work. You know
- 14:40Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I kind of figured the game out.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Now it's like, you can't put her single out, you
- 14:44Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because everybody's ay and ours. So
- 14:46Speaker 1: you just gotta put the body of workout and just
- 14:48Speaker 1: hope people take. It's like a self help book if
- 14:50Speaker 1: you can't take a chapter and put it out because
- 14:52Speaker 1: that that might not be the chapter they want, you
- 14:55Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So but I thought you were tired.
- 14:57Speaker 1: I thought the soul support of the liquor cump. Yeah.
- 15:06Speaker 1: First of all, mister Forbes, listen, Yeah, I gotta getting
- 15:11Speaker 1: many calls as you start even talking like that, I know.
- 15:14Speaker 1: But for me, man, it was like, um, you know,
- 15:17Speaker 1: there's one of them things where like, you know, I
- 15:19Speaker 1: do music, but I also want to do you know, business,
- 15:21Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm passionate about that because I understand it.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Just coming from the block and learning how to get money.
- 15:27Speaker 1: That's something that drives me. And it's just like if
- 15:29Speaker 1: anybody know anything about life, it's like when you come
- 15:31Speaker 1: stagnant and you're just doing the same thing, you know
- 15:34Speaker 1: what I'm saying, kind of like take away from who
- 15:35Speaker 1: you are. So, where's the best place you've been on vacation? Man, Europe.
- 15:42Speaker 1: I just love Europe period. Man. Just it's just you know,
- 15:46Speaker 1: the foods, different airs, different moons, different, it's just different.
- 15:50Speaker 1: And I took one of my homies the last time
- 15:51Speaker 1: I went. He never been he's from you know, he's
- 15:53Speaker 1: straight from the hood. But just to see the look
- 15:55Speaker 1: on his face, you know, just to see how life
- 15:59Speaker 1: is just so different, you know what I'm saying, Just
- 16:01Speaker 1: to live through him, because I've been there a couple
- 16:03Speaker 1: of times. I mean, just it was real, surreal. Have
- 16:07Speaker 1: you ever cried somewhere? Have you ever been somewhere and
- 16:09Speaker 1: been like, God, damn, I'm really not an AUNTI portion
- 16:11Speaker 1: no more selling that work. Nah, not yet. I guess
- 16:14Speaker 1: I ain't been there. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but I've
- 16:17Speaker 1: I've been in situations where I've sat back and realized
- 16:20Speaker 1: how blessed I am. Yeah, I've been there. When the
- 16:23Speaker 1: last time you felt that feeling the gratitude? Oh, man,
- 16:25Speaker 1: Like maybe a couple of things. I was on my
- 16:27Speaker 1: flight and I was listening to the album, just kind
- 16:29Speaker 1: of listening to the mixes and stuff, and I was
- 16:32Speaker 1: listening to the intro track The Entrepreneur that's yeah, and
- 16:40Speaker 1: I don't know it just kind of really brought bad
- 16:41Speaker 1: memories though, because I'm I'm telling the story about that,
- 16:44Speaker 1: and I'm just like, damn, you know, I really went
- 16:45Speaker 1: through that, but you know, I'm still out here on
- 16:47Speaker 1: my grind. But at the same time, it just really
- 16:50Speaker 1: like took me back in that that memory lane. I'm like, then,
- 16:52Speaker 1: I just remember those hard times and going through all
- 16:54Speaker 1: this stuff, and it's just like overcoming it. It's just
- 16:57Speaker 1: like sometimes you don't pack yourself on the back enough,
- 16:59Speaker 1: both in things because you're sow in real time. I
- 17:01Speaker 1: talked to Tip about it all the time. It's like,
- 17:03Speaker 1: we accumulate so much and we're so successful in so
- 17:05Speaker 1: many different ways, we're gonna take the time to look
- 17:08Speaker 1: at the last accomplishment we did because we on to
- 17:10Speaker 1: the next thing. If that's your favorite Joe on the album,
- 17:13Speaker 1: No man, Actually I love the John Legend song about
- 17:17Speaker 1: my mother. That was deep. I can't you know, I
- 17:20Speaker 1: don't even listen to that one, by the way, So
- 17:22Speaker 1: it's like when I wrote it, I listened to it
- 17:24Speaker 1: and he mixed it. I was done with it. But
- 17:25Speaker 1: I definitely can't touch that one like I cry. But
- 17:29Speaker 1: I mean, because you know, my mother, she's got a situation,
- 17:31Speaker 1: so she's not healthy right now. And it's just like
- 17:33Speaker 1: that record basually described she's the real MVP. And it's like, um,
- 17:38Speaker 1: when I jumped off the ports, I took a lot
- 17:40Speaker 1: of my time trying to you know, come up and
- 17:43Speaker 1: take care of everybody, and I ain't really take the
- 17:45Speaker 1: time to be a son. And it's just like now
- 17:47Speaker 1: she she's not well. So it's just like when I
- 17:50Speaker 1: when I see people moving around taking any mother's on tour,
- 17:53Speaker 1: vacation doing things, it's just like, damn, you know, I
- 17:56Speaker 1: got go see my mother in this place, and and
- 17:59Speaker 1: you know, it hurt because it's like I missed all
- 18:01Speaker 1: that time and it's like I can't get none of
- 18:03Speaker 1: it back. And it's like I didn't getting them but
- 18:05Speaker 1: some money, you know what I'm saying. So I didn't
- 18:07Speaker 1: really gain much and I lost my mom. But like
- 18:10Speaker 1: I think every day for like giving me like morals
- 18:13Speaker 1: and teach me when integrity was and how to be
- 18:16Speaker 1: a man, just like she, she don't really get a
- 18:19Speaker 1: chance to see me in that light. But it's like
- 18:21Speaker 1: because now I'm of age and I have grew up,
- 18:23Speaker 1: so I ain't really with the you know, but it's
- 18:25Speaker 1: just like she ain't here to see that. All right,
- 18:27Speaker 1: We got mold with jeez. When we come back, it's
- 18:29Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Come on, I want to get everybody
- 18:32Speaker 1: as DJ N v Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy we
- 18:35Speaker 1: all the Breakfast Club was too kicking it with jeez ye.
- 18:38Speaker 1: So jeez, how are you now when it comes to
- 18:40Speaker 1: shopping and clothes? Are you really into it? Do you
- 18:43Speaker 1: spend your money on it? Now? Man? I keep it gee, man,
- 18:45Speaker 1: like I tried. I tried, you know what I'm saying.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Like I tried, Man, you know, I might go buy
- 18:50Speaker 1: some things, but my homies called me like I had
- 18:52Speaker 1: some Balenciaga boots, man, and man, listen, new things caused
- 18:56Speaker 1: the mass hysteria, and I thought there were the flies
- 18:59Speaker 1: boots in the world. Calls like yo, yo one time
- 19:01Speaker 1: when you do with the cowboy boots. So you're thinking
- 19:03Speaker 1: little that I'm like, ya bought these, But listen little,
- 19:14Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, these just got the buckle on them.
- 19:17Speaker 1: Like this is it? You know, I think I'm about Tupac.
- 19:20Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I get calls trays called
- 19:23Speaker 1: me telling we gotta, we gotta, we gotta group chat corn.
- 19:25Speaker 1: They kill your cousin. Yo, I'm like yo, so I
- 19:32Speaker 1: called him. I called up triggered abouts, like yo, this
- 19:34Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna do, I said them. The day
- 19:36Speaker 1: to Alum comes out, I said, want all y'all to
- 19:38Speaker 1: come over. I said, I'm gonna get some wood. You
- 19:41Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm gonna get some. I'm gonna
- 19:42Speaker 1: get some I'm gonna get some light of fluid. You
- 19:45Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get.
- 19:47Speaker 1: I'm gonna get everything I need and I want you
- 19:49Speaker 1: to come over to the crib. And August twenty third,
- 19:51Speaker 1: on the day to Alum comes out, I'm gonna I'm
- 19:53Speaker 1: gonna burn these boots in front of everybody cause I
- 19:55Speaker 1: need my friends back and cast me. Friend called me free.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Is that you're swell like you calling me like O
- 20:03Speaker 1: T jailers? Come tell your cousin domies. I LA won't
- 20:08Speaker 1: know if you're still solid. I'm like, yo, my man,
- 20:11Speaker 1: you see you look, don't know? Did you fire? The silence?
- 20:21Speaker 1: After that? He burns my call. Now, let me ask
- 20:25Speaker 1: you this, since this is the last of the installment
- 20:27Speaker 1: of Doug motivation and this is the last album on
- 20:31Speaker 1: deaf Jam. What's next man for me? Um right here
- 20:35Speaker 1: big figures, Wireless. Um, this is like my new baby
- 20:39Speaker 1: I got. I got the Defiance Few Athlete Water of course,
- 20:43Speaker 1: um like ENVYAM Heavy and real estate and uh obviously
- 20:47Speaker 1: Avion Tequila. I got my agency Agency ninety nine, which
- 20:49Speaker 1: we manage all the brands and businesses. But um, yeah,
- 20:54Speaker 1: but what are you gonna do musically another deal? Are
- 20:57Speaker 1: you gonna have your own independent label? I mean I
- 20:59Speaker 1: just feel I feel like I got the infrastructure to
- 21:01Speaker 1: do whatever. But it's just like for me right now,
- 21:03Speaker 1: I just gotta take some time to like but he
- 21:07Speaker 1: just I got my next ten fifteen year playing But
- 21:10Speaker 1: I just want to really see I want to execute
- 21:12Speaker 1: that because I look at people like Magic Johnson. I
- 21:14Speaker 1: love Magic like that's my mentor, Like you know what
- 21:17Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just love the fact that he's solid,
- 21:19Speaker 1: he lives his life, he got balanced around him. He
- 21:22Speaker 1: takes care of his friends in the way he's giving
- 21:24Speaker 1: them experiences, and he's traveling. He see in the world.
- 21:26Speaker 1: But if you look at other athletes that came up
- 21:29Speaker 1: with him, they're not set up like that. So that
- 21:31Speaker 1: just tells me that I gotta move in that way
- 21:33Speaker 1: if that's what I want to be in ten, fifteen,
- 21:36Speaker 1: twenty years, because that's what I respect. You know what
- 21:37Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I love um, you know, Allen iverson
- 21:40Speaker 1: to different people. And I know that Kevin Real was
- 21:42Speaker 1: hanging out in the strip clothes and me and all that.
- 21:44Speaker 1: But then I have to look at somebody like Magic Johnson.
- 21:46Speaker 1: After he was, you know, a great basketball player, Now
- 21:50Speaker 1: he's a great husband. Now he's a great father, and
- 21:52Speaker 1: now he's a great you know, mentor now he's he's
- 21:55Speaker 1: a great businessman. And I watched this move because I
- 21:57Speaker 1: remember when he had the NAA, we're gonna do that
- 22:03Speaker 1: the Magic Johnson theaters. Ye find its like we didn't
- 22:07Speaker 1: see the move then, you know, we were just going on.
- 22:09Speaker 1: But he was already making his moves. And you really
- 22:12Speaker 1: think about Atlanta, all the history that had happened in
- 22:15Speaker 1: Visits nightclub, right, so all the all the history that
- 22:18Speaker 1: happened there, he told all that down and build you know, uh,
- 22:23Speaker 1: hot rises. So he was powerful enough to come take
- 22:26Speaker 1: our whole night life away and build high rises on
- 22:28Speaker 1: that street and give them to his son, you know
- 22:30Speaker 1: what I mean. So I look at things like that
- 22:31Speaker 1: and I go, man like, to me, that's that's the
- 22:33Speaker 1: American dream. Absolutely, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, I,
- 22:37Speaker 1: you know, I'm pretty cold at what I do. I
- 22:39Speaker 1: think I'm in Charlotte Maine's Top five. I know, so
- 22:41Speaker 1: you got you gotta be hard to be there. But
- 22:44Speaker 1: it's just like, is that the only contribution I want
- 22:46Speaker 1: to make to the world. I don't think so well.
- 22:48Speaker 1: The album is out tomorrow, TM one on four TM
- 22:51Speaker 1: one on four. We appreciate you for joining us. Hey man,
- 22:53Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all for having man shout side the figures
- 22:55Speaker 1: Wiless South Side of defines fuel South Side of New
- 22:59Speaker 1: York City, UM South SOUTHDAYC ninety nine shouts out to
- 23:03Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. All right, well it's the Breakfast Club.
- 23:06Speaker 1: Is sir j Envy Angela Yee Charlomagne the guy? We
- 23:11Speaker 1: are to Breakfast Club? Now if you just joined us.
- 23:12Speaker 1: We were talking about Little Wayne's daughter, Yes, little an
- 23:16Speaker 1: Antoya Rice daughter, and she went to this cucumber pool
- 23:21Speaker 1: party and she previously had been really not excited about
- 23:25Speaker 1: these women doing this cucumber challenge. So people were getting
- 23:28Speaker 1: at her for being at the party, but she said, Okay, guys,
- 23:30Speaker 1: I want to say this. I went to the party
- 23:32Speaker 1: to spy on a wife and Lucci females, don't act
- 23:35Speaker 1: like you never did it. But when I heard about
- 23:37Speaker 1: the cucumber activities, I left. To be honest, I made
- 23:39Speaker 1: myself look like a fool for this man, and I
- 23:41Speaker 1: apologize for allowing you guys to see it. I'm young
- 23:44Speaker 1: and still learning. Now, have you ever a spot on
- 23:46Speaker 1: your man? Before you have? I ever did a pop up? Yeah?
- 23:52Speaker 1: You know, I've done a pop up. I don't trying
- 23:53Speaker 1: to think if I've ever gone to a party, but
- 23:55Speaker 1: I've definitely popped up at his house. I did that
- 23:57Speaker 1: a couple of times. One time I actually climbed through
- 23:59Speaker 1: the window. That's a real pop up. And that's because
- 24:03Speaker 1: I knew something was going on. And sometimes even though
- 24:05Speaker 1: we know things, we want to see it with our
- 24:06Speaker 1: own eyes. I don't know why, but I guess that
- 24:09Speaker 1: was really the end of it for me, to be
- 24:11Speaker 1: able to see somebody doing something with my own eyes. Yeah,
- 24:14Speaker 1: I've done it once to twice. Charlemagne always, I grew
- 24:17Speaker 1: up a very insecure young man, too, and when you're
- 24:19Speaker 1: the type of person like me who was cheating on
- 24:21Speaker 1: my woman and made me feel guilty, so that on
- 24:23Speaker 1: top of my insecurity, I thought she was doing dirt
- 24:26Speaker 1: when she wasn't. So yes, I popped up at jobs.
- 24:28Speaker 1: I've popped up at dorms, iopped up class apartments. I
- 24:32Speaker 1: popped up the class. Will my motorcycle right to a class. Well,
- 24:34Speaker 1: well you think she was doing in class? I don't know,
- 24:36Speaker 1: I don't know. You just want to see maybe she
- 24:37Speaker 1: passing a note, maybe she holding her hands like as
- 24:39Speaker 1: a guy a guy when a guy is already doing dirt,
- 24:43Speaker 1: like you automatically think your woman is just like you know,
- 24:46Speaker 1: sucking everywhere. You know what I'm saying. Like even if
- 24:48Speaker 1: she's not like any you can go down anytime, any place.
- 24:51Speaker 1: So yes, I definitely had guys pop up on me.
- 24:54Speaker 1: That was at parties. And listen, I'll leave a party
- 24:57Speaker 1: if somebody tried to pop up on me, I slide
- 24:59Speaker 1: out and like this is ridiculous. All you pop up
- 25:02Speaker 1: like you know, like I say, like say, like you know,
- 25:04Speaker 1: my wife was in college. They used to be partying
- 25:06Speaker 1: at this place called five points five pence puts all
- 25:08Speaker 1: the college kids used to go on Thursday night. I mean,
- 25:10Speaker 1: anybody could go hang out there, but that wasn't really
- 25:12Speaker 1: my scene. But you just pop up at a random place,
- 25:15Speaker 1: like what are you doing here? Like, you know, you
- 25:17Speaker 1: just just be in Charlotte Ruce while she in there,
- 25:20Speaker 1: like why are you in Charlotte's Ruce? He's doing a
- 25:22Speaker 1: little shot rusself. But you know, you just you just
- 25:27Speaker 1: pop up in random places. You ain't got no business being.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Why are you at my old b g y n oh?
- 25:31Speaker 1: I don't know, I just say nothing, Hello, who's this? Hello?
- 25:36Speaker 1: My name is jazz Man. How are you going? Jazzmine
- 25:39Speaker 1: Queen of the pop up Jasmine is way too loud
- 25:42Speaker 1: to be popping up on somebody. No, definitely pop up
- 25:45Speaker 1: on that. But let me tell y'all, let me tell y'all,
- 25:49Speaker 1: I'm really the pop up queen though. Let me I
- 25:51Speaker 1: had a tractor on my on my baby Daddy cars
- 25:53Speaker 1: for like three years and he never knew it. Wow,
- 25:56Speaker 1: he like damn't like thinking that his friends on them
- 25:59Speaker 1: and everything like that. But really he had no idea
- 26:01Speaker 1: that I was just like chucking at as though all
- 26:04Speaker 1: day every day. I don't know how he couldn't figure
- 26:05Speaker 1: that out when you were just showing up place to
- 26:07Speaker 1: put a track on somebody's call. Clearly they do, Jasmine,
- 26:10Speaker 1: you're crazy, crazy, he'll don't play with me, And you
- 26:14Speaker 1: did that for three years. He never knew though, right,
- 26:18Speaker 1: he never knew so little thing. Like one time he
- 26:20Speaker 1: went out to eat with this girl, Like I said
- 26:22Speaker 1: in the parking Jobs, I let him eat it. Everything
- 26:24Speaker 1: that went back to his apartment, you know what I'm saying,
- 26:26Speaker 1: Like I'm just just following him. He's like, okay, so
- 26:29Speaker 1: this inky. So I just you know, I just walk
- 26:32Speaker 1: up to the apartment, knocked on the door. They turned
- 26:35Speaker 1: off the lights and stuff trying to hide and stuff,
- 26:37Speaker 1: and the texting the girl's phone, like like he got
- 26:40Speaker 1: five minutes to come outside on coming in that bag
- 26:42Speaker 1: thing and like they scattered up that up as crazy
- 26:46Speaker 1: that for three years he wasn't scared enough to stop
- 26:49Speaker 1: doing the stuff he was doing. Sharing. Yeah, you ever
- 26:52Speaker 1: popped upon an ex or man or your man? You
- 26:55Speaker 1: know what? No, because of something that's going on. I
- 26:57Speaker 1: don't want to know about it. You're getting when you
- 27:00Speaker 1: go looking for trouble. But here's my story. So I
- 27:03Speaker 1: found out that my suons the ex husband, Uh put
- 27:06Speaker 1: his cell phone in my car. So one day on
- 27:10Speaker 1: part and all of a sudden, I just hear this
- 27:12Speaker 1: music out of the blue, and I'm like, what is that?
- 27:14Speaker 1: So I looked at my fat feet and he shoved
- 27:16Speaker 1: his cell phone in between my back seat so he
- 27:20Speaker 1: could track me. So he didn't have his cell phone
- 27:23Speaker 1: on him, he just left it him. Yeah, exactly. He
- 27:28Speaker 1: said he had a second form. Dang, wow, he had
- 27:31Speaker 1: to charge that every day. That's that smart. Why did
- 27:33Speaker 1: he not trust you? Was there a reason or he
- 27:35Speaker 1: just hit insecurities? M M all right, thank you exactly. DeAngelo. Yo,
- 27:43Speaker 1: you propped upon your wife's man. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
- 27:46Speaker 1: good morning. By the way, good morning. He's liked good
- 27:48Speaker 1: morning Christa mom. I'm not crazy, but uh well yeah,
- 27:53Speaker 1: I responded to what she did. She wouldn't and I
- 27:56Speaker 1: didn't want her to go out, So I got my
- 27:59Speaker 1: daughter in the up, put my dog yell the truck
- 28:01Speaker 1: and pulled up at the club on called her in line.
- 28:05Speaker 1: But at the day it was I knew that I
- 28:07Speaker 1: brought my dog with him because I felt like, I
- 28:09Speaker 1: don't have to go into the club. But I didn't
- 28:11Speaker 1: have to go in the club. Thank god. But I
- 28:14Speaker 1: got out cause a little thing in the line got
- 28:16Speaker 1: her in the truck and then we pulled off. You
- 28:19Speaker 1: brought your dog, can't get out the car and your
- 28:22Speaker 1: daughter and me while I'm yelling that huff. So you
- 28:24Speaker 1: was gonna bring your dog and daughter in the club
- 28:26Speaker 1: to final Now I was gonna be the dog and
- 28:28Speaker 1: the daughter in the car while I was in the club.
- 28:31Speaker 1: How old is your daughter? Oh? She was a baby? Baby?
- 28:34Speaker 1: Then baby, So you're about to go to jail. You're
- 28:38Speaker 1: about to go to jail because of your own in charity.
- 28:41Speaker 1: Nice one of those nights, man, you should the dog
- 28:44Speaker 1: in the club and he rasdalized it. But you know what,
- 28:47Speaker 1: my dog go watched my daughter while I go to
- 28:49Speaker 1: the club for a second. I have the best guard
- 28:52Speaker 1: dog anyword I wanted to did it? Had my dog
- 28:54Speaker 1: been been been like he want and his mother water?
- 28:58Speaker 1: But you know, all right, man, I'm sorry, that's too much.
- 29:02Speaker 1: I have a god, I ain't gonna front. That ain't
- 29:04Speaker 1: a bad idea. I leave, I lead the dog in
- 29:06Speaker 1: the car with the kids. I'm terrible like this. Shut up?
- 29:09Speaker 1: What's the mall of the story, the all of the stories?
- 29:11Speaker 1: Get your insecurities together. Bro Okay, trust me, I've been there.
- 29:15Speaker 1: I feel sorry for Reginator. But she young though, you
- 29:17Speaker 1: know what I mean, So I get it. You know
- 29:19Speaker 1: you're just happening for her. Yeah, you do stuff like
- 29:22Speaker 1: that when you're young, when you have those insecurities and
- 29:24Speaker 1: you know you just want to make sure somebody doing
- 29:26Speaker 1: it right by you. I get it, I get it,
- 29:29Speaker 1: all right. We got more coming up next with a
- 29:31Speaker 1: breakfast club wanting everybody is DJ Envy and Angela ye
- 29:35Speaker 1: Cholamine the guy. We all the breakfast club. We got
- 29:37Speaker 1: some special guests in the building. Yes, sir, you have
- 29:40Speaker 1: Michael Eric Dyson, who has a book that's coming out,
- 29:42Speaker 1: jay Z Made in America. Yes, sir, and it's of
- 29:45Speaker 1: course on jay Z as well. That's true too. Couldn't
- 29:48Speaker 1: be better. I mean, from your mouth to God's ears.
- 29:52Speaker 1: What is this book about? Well, you know, as uh,
- 29:57Speaker 1: sister Angela was saying, I've been teaching a course on
- 29:59Speaker 1: jay for like the last decade and nearly the last decade,
- 30:03Speaker 1: i should say, And so I wanted to take what
- 30:06Speaker 1: I've been doing in that class and put in the
- 30:08Speaker 1: book because it appeared to me as it should to
- 30:11Speaker 1: anybody when you're pouring over these lyrics. This dude is
- 30:13Speaker 1: a rhetorical genius, his verbal invention, He's got all kinds
- 30:17Speaker 1: of skills, and the irony is as great as people
- 30:20Speaker 1: think Jay is. He's underrated. He's underrated because they don't
- 30:23Speaker 1: understand the mechanics behind what he's doing, the kind of
- 30:26Speaker 1: poetic rules and inventions, the use of metaphor similarly, how
- 30:31Speaker 1: sophisticated it is. And then when you're adding there the
- 30:34Speaker 1: fact he don't even write it down. This book kind
- 30:37Speaker 1: of is the finishing of the trilogy of figures who
- 30:40Speaker 1: have been incredibly important and influential in the world of
- 30:45Speaker 1: hip hop. It's interesting, you've been teaching this course at
- 30:47Speaker 1: Georgetown for ten years and so much has happened in
- 30:50Speaker 1: jay Z's life in the course of that ten years.
- 30:53Speaker 1: So how do you adjust to that as you come
- 30:56Speaker 1: up with your syllabus every year. Yeah, that's a great point. Well,
- 30:58Speaker 1: you got to involve, you know, And and Hope is
- 31:01Speaker 1: putting out so much work and putting in so much
- 31:04Speaker 1: work and doing so many things because it's not just
- 31:07Speaker 1: the music he's doing, it's what he's doing beyond the
- 31:10Speaker 1: culture um of hip hop itself, or it's especially beyond rap,
- 31:15Speaker 1: so his business ventures, his engagement in the world, his
- 31:20Speaker 1: entrepreneurial um, you know, exploits, his criminal justice reform stuff,
- 31:26Speaker 1: all of that stuff, and then just the music itself,
- 31:29Speaker 1: just the words themselves, the density of his poetic inventiveness.
- 31:35Speaker 1: It's something that I'm preoccupied with. So every time out,
- 31:39Speaker 1: you know, we focus on a different aspect or a
- 31:41Speaker 1: different level of his creativity and look at new stuff
- 31:45Speaker 1: he's done. Well do you guys communicate with each other? Um,
- 31:49Speaker 1: you know, pretty pretty routinely. Um. You know. The best
- 31:52Speaker 1: best thing he did for me on this book. People say, well,
- 31:54Speaker 1: it's just an interview now, because I got my ideas.
- 31:57Speaker 1: I don't need to interview. Hope, I've been I've been
- 31:59Speaker 1: thinking about him for a decade. The most amazing thing
- 32:03Speaker 1: he did for me was to allow me to quote
- 32:05Speaker 1: from these lyrics so that I could stretch out and
- 32:09Speaker 1: interpret him. Because you know, and most most publishers are
- 32:12Speaker 1: very skittish, only do half a sentence. You got to
- 32:17Speaker 1: pay for it copyright, We might get sued, And so
- 32:21Speaker 1: I would reach out to my safe I say, man,
- 32:24Speaker 1: I I can you help, can you get God forgive
- 32:29Speaker 1: me for my BRANDT delivery. But I remember vividly what
- 32:33Speaker 1: the did to me. Imagine me allowing you to nitpick
- 32:35Speaker 1: and me portray me like a pickan me. So you know,
- 32:37Speaker 1: and I had asked it him, could he could he
- 32:41Speaker 1: give me permission? And he when he signed off, it
- 32:43Speaker 1: blew my publisher's mind. But that's why even on the
- 32:46Speaker 1: cover you see the lyrics to the old JA song
- 32:49Speaker 1: emboss there. That's pretty dope cover. I must say I didn't.
- 32:52Speaker 1: I didn't, I didn't do it, but it's a pretty
- 32:55Speaker 1: nice cover. And we wanted to do something that was
- 32:58Speaker 1: worthy of hoping on the inside you and see that
- 33:00Speaker 1: boskiot influenced kind of artwork on the inside there, So
- 33:05Speaker 1: you know he gave permission to do that, and that
- 33:08Speaker 1: that makes a big difference. Why is the book dedicated
- 33:11Speaker 1: to Michael Rubin and Robert Frederick Smith? Yeah, well you
- 33:14Speaker 1: know both of them are interestingly enough, are connected to
- 33:18Speaker 1: Jay on his criminal justice reform, you know, reform alliance.
- 33:24Speaker 1: And you know Michael Rubin was instrumental in helping Meek
- 33:27Speaker 1: Mill get out of jail. So for that alone, I
- 33:29Speaker 1: gotta give you some love. Yeah, But then understanding that
- 33:32Speaker 1: you got to leverage that to a larger issue that
- 33:35Speaker 1: Jay is concerned about. Cash bales are jacked up, the
- 33:39Speaker 1: kind of dysfunction of the criminal justice system that saw
- 33:42Speaker 1: Meek Mill go in and out of prison for parole
- 33:44Speaker 1: violations for a decade for some nonsense when he was
- 33:48Speaker 1: a child or a young team or a teenager. And
- 33:52Speaker 1: then you know, to address that as he used to
- 33:56Speaker 1: call him owners but partners of the Philadelphia seventy six ers,
- 34:01Speaker 1: is worthy of that in Robert Frederick Smith, when you
- 34:03Speaker 1: go to the Moorhouse and drop forty mile on him
- 34:06Speaker 1: and say, look, I will take care of your bills
- 34:09Speaker 1: and your future is vouchsafed and it's secure as a
- 34:12Speaker 1: result of what this gesture is about, I gotta show
- 34:15Speaker 1: love and respect. So both of them are connected to
- 34:18Speaker 1: that reform alliance, but both of them have done significant
- 34:21Speaker 1: things to advance the ball in terms of advocating for
- 34:25Speaker 1: the future of young black men in America and young
- 34:27Speaker 1: black people. What what what? What is Jay Z gotten
- 34:30Speaker 1: right in this whole NFL situation and what have you
- 34:32Speaker 1: gotten wrong? Well, look, I think that you know, people say, oh,
- 34:37Speaker 1: he's sold out, he just messed up. He first of all,
- 34:41Speaker 1: he's rocking the Colin Kaepernick jersey, and then he turns
- 34:45Speaker 1: around and he's and he's telling other artists not to
- 34:47Speaker 1: be involved in the Super Bowl. And then he turns
- 34:50Speaker 1: around and he's advising them, and he's cutting a deal.
- 34:55Speaker 1: I think what people misunderstand is that you got to
- 34:59Speaker 1: have a three point shooter, and you got to have baseline.
- 35:03Speaker 1: You got to have Steph Curry, and you got to
- 35:06Speaker 1: have Lebron going in and jamming the ball, and you
- 35:08Speaker 1: got to have people occupying both spaces inside outside, Martin
- 35:12Speaker 1: Viking Junior standing outside, I have a dream criticizing the
- 35:15Speaker 1: social injustices that prevail. But then Martin Viking Junior going
- 35:20Speaker 1: inside with Lyndon Baines Johnson the President and saying, how
- 35:24Speaker 1: do we craft the Civil Rights Bill of nineteen sixty four?
- 35:27Speaker 1: How do we craft legislation for the Voting Rights Act? Now,
- 35:31Speaker 1: the Voting Rights Act is brought into existence not because
- 35:34Speaker 1: of the good graces of the presidency or the desire
- 35:37Speaker 1: even though LBJ wanted to do that, but he wanted
- 35:40Speaker 1: to have a social condition that prevailed a political pressure
- 35:43Speaker 1: brought to bear to make it sensible to do so.
- 35:46Speaker 1: That's how things work. And so when jay Z is
- 35:50Speaker 1: out putting pressure on the NFL, people don't give him
- 35:53Speaker 1: credit for this. That the fact that he said, don't
- 35:56Speaker 1: go do the Super bowls and halftime show. And look
- 36:01Speaker 1: we in stadiums too, m we in stadiums too, that
- 36:05Speaker 1: puts pressure. They didn't just do it because of the
- 36:08Speaker 1: goodness of their hearts. They saw this man will significant
- 36:12Speaker 1: economic influence and cultural power, and as a result of that,
- 36:16Speaker 1: the pushback was genuine and palpable. So now they invite
- 36:19Speaker 1: him in to have a conversation. What's these uses to go? No,
- 36:22Speaker 1: I want you to do right. Oh, but I'm not
- 36:23Speaker 1: gonna tell you what I think is right. Well, if
- 36:25Speaker 1: I tell you what you're doing is wrong, and then
- 36:27Speaker 1: you invite me into the conversation to say what's right,
- 36:30Speaker 1: I gotta sit down and tell you. So for me,
- 36:33Speaker 1: jay Z going inside is really responding to the pressure
- 36:37Speaker 1: he brought to bear on the outside and sitting down
- 36:40Speaker 1: talking about either the acts that are going on in
- 36:42Speaker 1: halftime all right, but the social justice agenda. And do
- 36:45Speaker 1: we really doubt that Colin Kaepernick, whatever you think of that,
- 36:49Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, a bold, amazing, iconic social justice figure, would
- 36:55Speaker 1: never have had an opportunity to even have what is
- 36:57Speaker 1: now a botched you know, out in audition for the
- 37:02Speaker 1: NFL without jay Z bringing pressure to bear. Now the
- 37:04Speaker 1: people who were critical Jay said, well, damn you think
- 37:08Speaker 1: at Leasy could have done. It's got my man a job.
- 37:10Speaker 1: First of all, that any high work. Are you not
- 37:12Speaker 1: understanding of how it works? Roger Goodell, who is the commissioner,
- 37:15Speaker 1: can't even go to a team and make them do it.
- 37:17Speaker 1: But can they leverage authority? Yeah? Can they say wink
- 37:20Speaker 1: wink not and not come home? Bro, Let's do something
- 37:23Speaker 1: for this guy. Jay Z is putting enormous pressure. You know,
- 37:25Speaker 1: Roger Goodell, if he wanted to do that, he would
- 37:28Speaker 1: have done so before jay Z came on the scene.
- 37:30Speaker 1: So we know jay Z's presence was significant there. So
- 37:33Speaker 1: for me, it's the inside versus outside dichotomy that we've
- 37:37Speaker 1: got to reckon with and we got to stop the hate.
- 37:40Speaker 1: If you disagree with me, then I'm a comb then
- 37:42Speaker 1: I'm a sellout. I'm not saying that they are not
- 37:44Speaker 1: people who have done dastardly things in the name of
- 37:46Speaker 1: racial duty and who deserved to be called out or
- 37:50Speaker 1: at least called to account, but the ready, ready resort
- 37:53Speaker 1: to trying to beat people up. And you a cone
- 37:56Speaker 1: and you you know what, you coon and somebody today,
- 37:58Speaker 1: and you're gonna be coon the next day. You canceling
- 38:01Speaker 1: somebody today, You're gonna get canceled yourself the next day.
- 38:03Speaker 1: We got more with Michael Eric Dison where we come back,
- 38:06Speaker 1: don't move. It's the Breakfast Club back, It's the Breakfast Club.
- 38:09Speaker 1: DJ n v angel Ye Charlomagne the guy. We have
- 38:12Speaker 1: Michael Eric Diyson in the building. What do you think
- 38:14Speaker 1: about Stephen A. Smith's take on Colin Kaepernick not actually
- 38:18Speaker 1: conforming with too what the NFL wanted him to do. Well,
- 38:21Speaker 1: you know, I was on Look, Stephen A. Smith is
- 38:23Speaker 1: a friend of mine. I'm friendly with Colin Kaepernick. I
- 38:27Speaker 1: love and adore him, and I think, look, what Stephen A.
- 38:31Speaker 1: Smith was trying to suggest is that in the context
- 38:35Speaker 1: of what the NFL is, first of all, we know
- 38:38Speaker 1: they messed up. We know they jacked up. We know
- 38:39Speaker 1: they took a job from you that you shouldn't have
- 38:41Speaker 1: had taken from you. You know this right. Anyway, that's
- 38:45Speaker 1: not a mystery. The fact that Colin Kaepernick even as
- 38:47Speaker 1: to be in this position is fundamentally unjust the fact
- 38:50Speaker 1: that he is to be begging for something, not begging
- 38:52Speaker 1: asking for something, an opportunity to show that he is
- 38:55Speaker 1: capable of performing in an NFL when he didn't because
- 38:58Speaker 1: of his own merit old to do that when because
- 39:01Speaker 1: it wasn't his arm wasn't good, it wasn't that he
- 39:04Speaker 1: not true enough, He had some troubles when he was starting,
- 39:07Speaker 1: and he was benched in favor of somebody else and
- 39:08Speaker 1: so on. That's all true. But the man still wills
- 39:11Speaker 1: tremendous talent, and it is better than half the people
- 39:13Speaker 1: starting right now, and certainly the people they go on
- 39:15Speaker 1: the street and find and bring into the NFL, because
- 39:18Speaker 1: their desk before a quarterback. So there's no question that
- 39:21Speaker 1: the white supremacists outlooking mindset in worldview and feltonshonging in
- 39:25Speaker 1: every other word you can generate of these owners that
- 39:28Speaker 1: prevents them from understanding that their own bigotry and bias
- 39:33Speaker 1: will keep Colin Kaepernick on the sidelines. Is a serious
- 39:37Speaker 1: issue that cannot be dismissed. And this is the tradition.
- 39:41Speaker 1: If I can say that that some black people, including
- 39:44Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, come from, here's the position black people
- 39:47Speaker 1: always against the eyes. It ain't never fair, Right, Martin
- 39:50Speaker 1: LUs King Jr. Could forget a waiver on a contract
- 39:54Speaker 1: forgetting that. I'm not saying that that's not important, right,
- 39:56Speaker 1: because if the waiver being signed was to suggest that
- 39:59Speaker 1: somehow you would you would surrender your right to be
- 40:02Speaker 1: able to sue in the future or to accuse people
- 40:05Speaker 1: of further collusion. Right, That's that's idiotic, and nobody trying
- 40:08Speaker 1: to do that. But the broader issue is this pharaoh
- 40:12Speaker 1: will never provide you a scholarship for freedom. Right. The
- 40:16Speaker 1: people who are your enemies and your opponents will never
- 40:19Speaker 1: grant you even the fair conditions for you to compete.
- 40:23Speaker 1: But the best of our people have competed against the odds.
- 40:27Speaker 1: Was it fair for Jackie Robinson to have to live
- 40:30Speaker 1: the way he did? No? Was it right? No? Did
- 40:34Speaker 1: he do it? Yes? Should we have to know? Should
- 40:38Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick have to exist by a kind of segregated
- 40:41Speaker 1: Jim Crow law in the modern era in twenty nineteen,
- 40:44Speaker 1: when we've had, you know, voting rights for black people
- 40:47Speaker 1: in the South since nineteen sixty five. No? No, but
- 40:51Speaker 1: his white supremacy is still real? Yes? Does it amplify
- 40:54Speaker 1: within the cauldrons of you know, the NFL and American
- 40:58Speaker 1: institutional culture and corporate cult. Absolutely. So the thing is
- 41:02Speaker 1: knowing that going in the door, you don't never expect
- 41:04Speaker 1: them to be fair. You demand, you request, but you
- 41:07Speaker 1: go out there and show, you know what, even what
- 41:09Speaker 1: your funky, foul, nefarious tricksterism, I'm gonna show you. I
- 41:14Speaker 1: can toss this rock, I can chuck this pill, I
- 41:17Speaker 1: can throw this pig skin, and I can do what's
- 41:19Speaker 1: necessarily do. Put the burden back on them. And then
- 41:22Speaker 1: if they don't hire you, even though we know now
- 41:24Speaker 1: he still can play, they already know that if they
- 41:26Speaker 1: don't hire you, that's on them. That's up to them.
- 41:30Speaker 1: So I think there's a tradition of black response, and
- 41:32Speaker 1: I know a lot of black people, Oh my god,
- 41:34Speaker 1: this is the politics of respectability, and you're trying to
- 41:36Speaker 1: prove that you're twice as good just to compete. I'm sorry,
- 41:39Speaker 1: I'm sixty one years old. That's the generation I'm from, right,
- 41:42Speaker 1: So my point is is that yes, there is a
- 41:45Speaker 1: thing such as loving Colin Kaepernick, supporting Colin Kaepernick, wanting
- 41:50Speaker 1: him to do the best in the right thing, and
- 41:52Speaker 1: suggesting this, you could tighten up some of you some
- 41:55Speaker 1: of your strategy too. You could there's a way in
- 41:57Speaker 1: what you might approach this that might be different. This
- 42:00Speaker 1: is not to put the burden on him like you
- 42:02Speaker 1: do the right thing and then the NFL was let
- 42:05Speaker 1: off the hook. No, but we know we're living in
- 42:07Speaker 1: a white supremacist society where the patent unfairness and hypocrisy
- 42:12Speaker 1: is pervasive. So knowing that going in the door, be
- 42:16Speaker 1: armed to be able to compete and to deal with this.
- 42:20Speaker 1: This is why, by the way, when Martin Luther King
- 42:23Speaker 1: Junior and other figures in his brand to the movement
- 42:27Speaker 1: were involved, they were rigorously trained. They were taught principles,
- 42:32Speaker 1: they were talked about, They were taught about social injustice,
- 42:34Speaker 1: how to deal with potential scenarios that would prevail, that
- 42:39Speaker 1: allowed them to be able to do their best on
- 42:41Speaker 1: the battlefield. I would tell you something, man, I agreewed
- 42:43Speaker 1: a lot of what you said, most of it. And
- 42:45Speaker 1: if I was capp and I would have thought that
- 42:47Speaker 1: waiver what he was trying to get me to sign
- 42:49Speaker 1: over my rights to, you know, not be able to
- 42:51Speaker 1: sue the future. And if they would have gave me
- 42:53Speaker 1: an ultimatum that said, hey, I don't know if this
- 42:55Speaker 1: is true. I need to get ultimatum that I said,
- 42:57Speaker 1: take it to leave it. You got two hours, right,
- 42:59Speaker 1: I have said them. Of course, who wouldn't do that?
- 43:02Speaker 1: So you wouldn't have held the other tryout. And if
- 43:05Speaker 1: I did hold the other tribe, I would have only
- 43:06Speaker 1: held it for attention. So when I got in front
- 43:09Speaker 1: of them cameras, I put them on blast with that waiver.
- 43:11Speaker 1: Well see that's the thing. See, here's the part of
- 43:13Speaker 1: the problem. You know, the NFL is saying one thing
- 43:15Speaker 1: about the waivers. They're swearing up and down. That's not
- 43:17Speaker 1: what it is, right, it's being misrepresentative, of course, and
- 43:21Speaker 1: cap side is saying something else. So we don't really
- 43:23Speaker 1: know what they showed them. I saw an article yesterday
- 43:25Speaker 1: where they showed the standard waiver and waver cap got.
- 43:29Speaker 1: It was definitely more language than caps would well, no doubt.
- 43:31Speaker 1: And in the bottom line is beyond the waiver, the
- 43:35Speaker 1: man has been mistreated. Ain't nobody else getting subject to
- 43:37Speaker 1: what he's being subjected. So it's criminal at that level,
- 43:40Speaker 1: there's no question about that. But that's different from us
- 43:43Speaker 1: than trying to figure out what is the strategic response?
- 43:46Speaker 1: And we don't have to be sellouts because we say hey,
- 43:48Speaker 1: there's a way in what you can do it is
- 43:50Speaker 1: it is it wrong to say, hey, Cap, it might
- 43:52Speaker 1: be good that when people trying to get at you
- 43:54Speaker 1: who know stuff about this, you could respond to them.
- 43:57Speaker 1: Right now. Let me give you an example. I love
- 44:00Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. I was at the Tyler Perry event, you know,
- 44:05Speaker 1: and when Beyonce thanked me for you know, showing love
- 44:09Speaker 1: to them all the time. After that, I don't know
- 44:11Speaker 1: really what happened. I'm just not sure if the time
- 44:15Speaker 1: stopped moving, if the float of eternity had descended with uh,
- 44:20Speaker 1: you know, powerful and poetic intensity, stop Hayden. So the
- 44:24Speaker 1: thing is is that Kaepernick came up to me said, look, man,
- 44:27Speaker 1: I'm have to straighten you out about what's going on.
- 44:29Speaker 1: I said, cool, I'm available, right, I said, but Cap,
- 44:34Speaker 1: I'll be texting you. You give me a text when
- 44:39Speaker 1: you want me to be your pr guy to tell
- 44:41Speaker 1: what's going on in the world, But when I'm trying
- 44:43Speaker 1: to get at you, to interview you. I've defended Kaepernick
- 44:46Speaker 1: in my last three books and tears. We cannot stop
- 44:48Speaker 1: a sermon of White America and what truth sounds like?
- 44:51Speaker 1: Uh J Robert F. Kennedy, James Baldwin in the Conversation
- 44:55Speaker 1: Unfinished Conversation on Race in America, and now in this
- 44:58Speaker 1: book on jay Z, I love and adore him. I
- 45:01Speaker 1: admire him, but I think that there's a way in
- 45:04Speaker 1: which we could talk honestly behind the scenes about things. Now.
- 45:07Speaker 1: Ain't gotta be me and miss Nessa, a lovely, brilliant,
- 45:11Speaker 1: wonderful woman's partner, you know, said Hey, I want to
- 45:14Speaker 1: talk to you. I call both of them. Ain't got
- 45:16Speaker 1: no response. Now, I'm not trying to put them on blast.
- 45:18Speaker 1: That ain't my point, because you ain't gonna call Mikeelreg Dyson.
- 45:21Speaker 1: But I'm saying, talk to people, and I hope you
- 45:23Speaker 1: are in your community. But is it wrong to say
- 45:25Speaker 1: we can talk off stage, off the phone, behind the scenes,
- 45:30Speaker 1: so I could offer whatever I do. I kind of
- 45:33Speaker 1: do this for a living. I've written twenty one books.
- 45:35Speaker 1: I've been teaching for thirty years. I'm out here in
- 45:37Speaker 1: these screets. I'm doing what I do. I'm saying I
- 45:40Speaker 1: do have something, and people usually pay me a bunch
- 45:42Speaker 1: of money for that. I'm trying to offer it to
- 45:44Speaker 1: you for free. You ain't gonna take my advice. But
- 45:47Speaker 1: I'm saying engage, but don't be upset. Then in the
- 45:50Speaker 1: public sphere and square when I have to then talk
- 45:53Speaker 1: about there could be alternatives to strategic intervention. Can't do it.
- 46:00Speaker 1: It's hard for Colin. And that's where the trust people
- 46:01Speaker 1: at this moment, I can understand what I get it,
- 46:03Speaker 1: they get it. They get a lot of death threads,
- 46:05Speaker 1: and especially I think this whole situation with jay Z,
- 46:07Speaker 1: it just it divided the culture in a way that
- 46:09Speaker 1: it shouldn't It shouldn't have it shouldn't have done too.
- 46:12Speaker 1: At the same time, if you're telling, if you're challenging
- 46:15Speaker 1: me about you want to straighten me out, and I
- 46:18Speaker 1: call you to get straightened out, and you don't straighten
- 46:20Speaker 1: me out, dog get in on me and listen here,
- 46:23Speaker 1: that doesn't mean therefore because I didn't hear from you,
- 46:25Speaker 1: I'm going to do. I'm gonna be principled in my
- 46:28Speaker 1: response regardless. Yeah, it's going to speak on what you
- 46:30Speaker 1: know from what you I'm gonna speak for what I believe,
- 46:33Speaker 1: what I know, what I think, how I reflect the
- 46:35Speaker 1: understanding of how this stuff is operated in the past,
- 46:38Speaker 1: the ways in which leaders have clashed and disagreed. This
- 46:40Speaker 1: ain't the first time. Cancer culture didn't invent it. It
- 46:43Speaker 1: just amplifies it more. It makes it more immediate. We
- 46:46Speaker 1: got more with Michael Eric Dison where we come back,
- 46:48Speaker 1: don't move. It's to breakfast club the morning. You know,
- 46:50Speaker 1: I don't want to ask you about but to well, Honestly,
- 46:52Speaker 1: I wish Cap would just say the NFL, that's number one.
- 46:55Speaker 1: Honest I wish you would just be like, but I
- 46:57Speaker 1: don't want to play no more. I know, but look
- 46:58Speaker 1: at you. If somebody did that to you and they say,
- 47:00Speaker 1: I just wish Charlotte Magne would just say radio that's
- 47:02Speaker 1: what he that's his life. I was. I wouldn't beg
- 47:07Speaker 1: keep you starting the podcast is different than the whole league. Yeah,
- 47:10Speaker 1: come on, I'm just saying, man, it comes a point
- 47:12Speaker 1: in time where you have to have some integrity about yourself.
- 47:15Speaker 1: He has and stop and stop kind of like knocking
- 47:18Speaker 1: on these white people, dough when you know they don't
- 47:20Speaker 1: want to let you in. Well, all of us a
- 47:21Speaker 1: knocking on the white man's door. Oh you had to do?
- 47:24Speaker 1: Is this a black on radio session? No, But I'm
- 47:27Speaker 1: not knocking. No, but if then you ain't gonna knock.
- 47:28Speaker 1: But if you but look how he said, Okay, they're
- 47:30Speaker 1: coming to get you. You ain't gonna knock, but I'm
- 47:34Speaker 1: gonna get you. All I'm simply saying is they was.
- 47:36Speaker 1: If they kicked me out right for three years, that's theory.
- 47:39Speaker 1: They kicked me out for three years, had no money,
- 47:40Speaker 1: support your family, your wife, looking at you. He got money,
- 47:43Speaker 1: though he got money. But I'm saying what he's passionate about.
- 47:47Speaker 1: He grew up and this is his life. Like football.
- 47:49Speaker 1: He wants to play in the NFL. Dude, he got skilled.
- 47:51Speaker 1: He was doing the vicep but he is Kaepernick. He
- 47:54Speaker 1: was one throw from winning the Super Bowl. This is
- 47:57Speaker 1: what he's born to do. If somebody tells me, Dison,
- 47:59Speaker 1: you can't speak, you can't teach, I'm gonna go teach
- 48:01Speaker 1: on the side road somewhere that's cold. But why deny
- 48:05Speaker 1: me a legitimate, legitimate opportunity to speak in a classroom
- 48:09Speaker 1: that I've earned a degree for And the only reason
- 48:12Speaker 1: I can't do it, to apply my wares and to
- 48:16Speaker 1: practice my craft is because of some arbitrary, racist refusal
- 48:20Speaker 1: to acknowledge me that that would go down real tough.
- 48:23Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing right now is the suffering
- 48:25Speaker 1: that comes from arguing with reality. Because I think Colin
- 48:27Speaker 1: Kaefernick is bigger than football. I think he's I think
- 48:29Speaker 1: he made. I think he stands for more than what
- 48:32Speaker 1: football is, and it might be as great as a gift.
- 48:33Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Sometimes you gotta pay attention to
- 48:36Speaker 1: how God has pushed you in another direction, and especially
- 48:38Speaker 1: after last week and they gave him that wave of
- 48:40Speaker 1: that clearly shows they're still trying to collude against him
- 48:43Speaker 1: by t how would have gave him the middle finger
- 48:45Speaker 1: and been like, if y'all, if y'all Negro still watching
- 48:47Speaker 1: the NFL, y'all really awesome? Sell up. Well, here's the thing.
- 48:50Speaker 1: In the dark, the divine in the demonic feel the same.
- 48:54Speaker 1: How you do this right? Right? Remember Jacob was wrestling
- 48:58Speaker 1: with the angel and it said Jacob wrestled all night
- 49:00Speaker 1: long until the morning. Why did he wrestle until the morning,
- 49:04Speaker 1: Because sometimes in the dark, the devil and God feel
- 49:07Speaker 1: the same. They do the same stuff. They push you,
- 49:10Speaker 1: they irritate you, they make you mad. You don't know.
- 49:14Speaker 1: So what you think is God could be evil, and
- 49:17Speaker 1: what you think is evil could be God. Remember Joseph,
- 49:19Speaker 1: with the Code of Many Colors, said you meant it
- 49:23Speaker 1: for evil, but God meant it for good. But at
- 49:26Speaker 1: the moment that you're the recipient of and the object
- 49:29Speaker 1: of derision and scorn, that stuff is awful tough to take.
- 49:33Speaker 1: It might be God's speaking, but it sounds like the
- 49:35Speaker 1: devil's voice you here. So all of us have to
- 49:38Speaker 1: struggle with what God's intent is for our lives. We
- 49:41Speaker 1: don't know until later on. Maybe now he will understand,
- 49:45Speaker 1: but that's not for me to say. So you've got
- 49:47Speaker 1: to understand what your gift is, what your time is,
- 49:50Speaker 1: what your opportunity is, and that's not for us to say.
- 49:52Speaker 1: And so again I would hesitate to say to Colin Kaepernick,
- 49:56Speaker 1: clearly your destiny is X, Y and Z, because the
- 49:59Speaker 1: attempt and effort that he's making and being rejected in
- 50:03Speaker 1: public is an object lesson for somebody to look. So
- 50:06Speaker 1: maybe God's purpose is for us to see the public
- 50:09Speaker 1: exposure of the shenanigans, the hypocrisy, and in the incredible
- 50:16Speaker 1: manipulations that are going on, which are just as effective
- 50:20Speaker 1: as him occupying a slot on an NFL team and
- 50:23Speaker 1: doing what he's gonna do. We don't know, but we can't.
- 50:25Speaker 1: We can't impose that. All we can do is derive
- 50:27Speaker 1: meaning and benefit and advantage from what we see going on.
- 50:31Speaker 1: And I would never presume to tell Colin Kaepernick what
- 50:33Speaker 1: to do with his life. I support him with whatever
- 50:36Speaker 1: he does. I just want us to be strategic in
- 50:38Speaker 1: our assistance to him and our core operation with him
- 50:42Speaker 1: and trying to figure out the best route to redemption
- 50:45Speaker 1: in this moment, and no simple conversation about oh, you know,
- 50:49Speaker 1: you're a sellout because you said this, and you're a
- 50:51Speaker 1: sellout because you agree with this, and you're a sellout
- 50:54Speaker 1: because you think he should have an alternative strategy, or
- 50:56Speaker 1: you're a sellout because you might have some constructive criticism
- 50:59Speaker 1: about what be being done. And if your goal is X,
- 51:02Speaker 1: Y and Z, let me help you achieve it. That's healthy,
- 51:05Speaker 1: that's beautiful. Now a lot of black people say, well,
- 51:07Speaker 1: why can't we do it in public? When the last
- 51:08Speaker 1: time you've been invited to a black meeting? What the
- 51:10Speaker 1: hell is it? Where the hell is the black meeting?
- 51:13Speaker 1: Is that the NAACP all Negros ain't a members of
- 51:15Speaker 1: that is that the Urban League ain't members of That
- 51:16Speaker 1: isn't a crackhouse everybody can't get in. So my point
- 51:19Speaker 1: is it's a secret one a couple of weeks ago
- 51:22Speaker 1: unless you know that I'm Yo Negro and I did
- 51:25Speaker 1: not get invited, and we need and we need to
- 51:31Speaker 1: have more of them. Well you know what we doin
- 51:35Speaker 1: there ain't no black meet that's the point. They're black meetings, right.
- 51:40Speaker 1: So the point is the mythology of the necessity for
- 51:44Speaker 1: uniformity and unity among black people undercuts the vibrant diversity
- 51:50Speaker 1: and the rambunctious complexity of our existence. What I mean,
- 51:55Speaker 1: all of us ain't got to be on the same
- 51:56Speaker 1: page and believe the same thing in order for us
- 51:58Speaker 1: to understand that, we got to be in the communities
- 52:01Speaker 1: that love and appreciate us and move forward, don't hate
- 52:04Speaker 1: on nobody else. Right in the Bible, Paul said, Paul,
- 52:07Speaker 1: and Silas and all in Timothy, Look, we got a part.
- 52:10Speaker 1: You're on your path, I'm on mine. You don't like
- 52:12Speaker 1: TD Jakes. Listen to Freddie Haynes. You don't like Freddy Haynes, right,
- 52:16Speaker 1: listen to Damon Glenn fi Hunt. Come on, listen to
- 52:20Speaker 1: mister f you don't like far Cup my brother in
- 52:23Speaker 1: the way in which right, And let me tell you
- 52:26Speaker 1: about Minnister fare Count. Now, mister fair hunt inboded me
- 52:30Speaker 1: to um to his house. Right. This was years and
- 52:33Speaker 1: years ago. I was like, well, damn, what I do?
- 52:34Speaker 1: What I do? What I do? I said, because I
- 52:37Speaker 1: said the first thing I said, Minnister fair Count. I
- 52:39Speaker 1: have been very critical of you. I've been critical to
- 52:41Speaker 1: you about what I perceived to be anti Semitic rhetoric.
- 52:44Speaker 1: And I've been critical to you about the homophobia that
- 52:47Speaker 1: I think is in your rhetoric. Right, I ain't gonna
- 52:50Speaker 1: lie to him. I'm at his crib. I'm hoping this
- 52:52Speaker 1: ain't the last time I'm gonna be saint. And he said,
- 52:56Speaker 1: my brother, how can we love and engage each other
- 53:04Speaker 1: if we do not in love correct each other. So
- 53:08Speaker 1: if you share with me your particular perspective and i
- 53:14Speaker 1: you mine, then we have the possibility of overcoming four
- 53:23Speaker 1: hours four hours. Right, I got real differences, I got
- 53:27Speaker 1: real critiques, but the possibility of opening up at least
- 53:32Speaker 1: to talk about what those might mean, his critiques of me,
- 53:35Speaker 1: my critiques of him, and together we figure out this
- 53:38Speaker 1: ain't my community. That ain't your tribe. All your skin
- 53:42Speaker 1: folk ain't your kin folk to me, jay Z. The
- 53:45Speaker 1: reason I wrote this book, the reason I celebrate his
- 53:48Speaker 1: you know, transition from hustler on the street to hustler
- 53:51Speaker 1: in the corporate scene, The reason I celebrate his poetic genius,
- 53:54Speaker 1: the reason I celebrate his politics. Jay Z didn't start
- 53:57Speaker 1: in politics when he joined What What What What? Mama Right.
- 54:01Speaker 1: He was talking on his records all the time, but
- 54:03Speaker 1: he was combining. He knew on his first album. Oh,
- 54:06Speaker 1: I gave him serious revelation and prophecy, and they ain't
- 54:09Speaker 1: feeling it like that. The same way with nas right,
- 54:11Speaker 1: So you gotta figure out. I gotta get my message
- 54:14Speaker 1: through in a way when the rims in the system
- 54:17Speaker 1: may not tell him. I got to quote Biggie, but
- 54:19Speaker 1: then I got to get in Ben Lydden Ben happening
- 54:21Speaker 1: in Manhattan right talking about the anthrax. He said, back then,
- 54:25Speaker 1: back when the police was out, kind of the black man.
- 54:27Speaker 1: He's snicking that, sneaking that in to some big pimping
- 54:31Speaker 1: because he understands that you can't give medicine straight. You
- 54:34Speaker 1: got to get the castor or with sugar. That's right right,
- 54:37Speaker 1: you got to give the hard lesson with honey. So
- 54:40Speaker 1: jay Z has brilliantly fused and merged the impost toward
- 54:45Speaker 1: poetic genius and understanding the marketplace in an unparalleled fashion.
- 54:51Speaker 1: And so this book celebrates that genius Hove is a
- 54:55Speaker 1: great man. Not because his poetic conventiveness and rhetorical genius
- 54:59Speaker 1: is so remarkable that it demands repeated listening. It does.
- 55:03Speaker 1: He is a great man because he's been willing to
- 55:05Speaker 1: grow and evolve and to tell the truth along the way.
- 55:10Speaker 1: My man, Michael Leric Dyson, thank you so much for that.
- 55:13Speaker 1: That's right, does it did have a copy of the
- 55:14Speaker 1: book already, Yes, he does. It's out right now, make
- 55:18Speaker 1: sure you go get it. Jay Z Made in America
- 55:20Speaker 1: by Michael Eric Dyson. Appreciate you. My brother always kills you.
- 55:24Speaker 1: It's a breakfast clum you get you are, don't I'm
- 55:39Speaker 1: gonna fatten all that around your eye. This man two
- 55:42Speaker 1: dog and blowers. Many wait with Charlemagne to make a
- 55:46Speaker 1: judgment who was going to be on the donkey of
- 55:48Speaker 1: the day. They chose you for the breakfast donkey of
- 55:53Speaker 1: the day to day donkey of today. Go to a
- 55:56Speaker 1: young woman named Ties you to Russia. Ties. It is
- 55:58Speaker 1: twenty nine years old, and she's the great State of
- 56:00Speaker 1: New Jersey dropping a close bumps in New Jersey. Dammit, Now,
- 56:04Speaker 1: before we talk about Todger, let me ask y'all a
- 56:06Speaker 1: question out there. When the last time you got stood up?
- 56:09Speaker 1: When it's the last time you told someone you wanted
- 56:11Speaker 1: to take them out and didn't show up? Huh? When
- 56:14Speaker 1: is the last time you told someone to come over
- 56:16Speaker 1: and you fell asleep on their ass? I have homeboys
- 56:19Speaker 1: now who are not married, not in a committed relationship,
- 56:22Speaker 1: not part of this faithful black male community, and they
- 56:25Speaker 1: tell me stories like this all the time, especially when
- 56:28Speaker 1: we out of time. All right, women come to the
- 56:30Speaker 1: hotel and be downstairs in the lobby for hours because
- 56:32Speaker 1: said individual has fallen asleep on their ass. Every time
- 56:36Speaker 1: I hear stories like this, I feel for those women
- 56:39Speaker 1: because to me, this is a different level of disrespect. Right.
- 56:42Speaker 1: If a man calls you over and tells you that
- 56:44Speaker 1: he fell asleep on you, he's an eight lying because
- 56:47Speaker 1: he was going through his phone and decided to call
- 56:49Speaker 1: a couple of different chicks, And whoever got there first
- 56:52Speaker 1: is who he's with. Hinch why he is not answering
- 56:54Speaker 1: for you or b you just don't excite him like that. Okay,
- 56:57Speaker 1: you're not falling asleep on a woman you are really
- 57:00Speaker 1: excited to see. In fact, that adrenaline rush you get
- 57:03Speaker 1: from seeing a being around a woman you're into. It's
- 57:06Speaker 1: gonna wake your ass up, all right, you got a
- 57:08Speaker 1: woman coming over, you get excited. All right, you think
- 57:10Speaker 1: you're gonna get some ass, So you gonna hop your
- 57:12Speaker 1: ass in the shower, and that shower gonna wake you up.
- 57:15Speaker 1: Then you're gonna lotion up, throw on some basketball shorts
- 57:17Speaker 1: in the fresh T shirt, spray some cologne on, roll
- 57:20Speaker 1: up something smoke, paul you a glass or something, and
- 57:22Speaker 1: waiting for the young lady you called over to arrive. Okay,
- 57:27Speaker 1: I fell asleep. You fell asleep. How boring was your
- 57:31Speaker 1: box that the thought of you coming over puts a
- 57:34Speaker 1: man to sleep? All right? So yes, ladies, you should
- 57:36Speaker 1: feel extremely disrespected when you come to see a man
- 57:39Speaker 1: and he tells you I fell asleep. That you wouldn'teel
- 57:41Speaker 1: disrespected to eat that happened to you. Yeah, I'd be
- 57:43Speaker 1: annoyed that I came out of my way. Then that's
- 57:45Speaker 1: exactly what happened to Taja and Russell? Now? According to
- 57:48Speaker 1: the New York Daily News, Taga was the side chick
- 57:51Speaker 1: all right, that's the New York Daily News words, not mine,
- 57:53Speaker 1: all right. Tiger was this young man she was visiting
- 57:57Speaker 1: side chicken. The young man told authorities that he asked
- 57:59Speaker 1: Russell to his house for sex, but he fell asleep
- 58:03Speaker 1: before she arrived. Disrespectful. When Tiger got to the man's house,
- 58:06Speaker 1: she called him eight times, eight times, but he didn't
- 58:11Speaker 1: pick up. After eight phone calls, she allegedly text the man,
- 58:15Speaker 1: I see you want to die, followed by you wasted
- 58:20Speaker 1: my money to come out of hire. And then around
- 58:23Speaker 1: four am, security camera saw Maga knocking on this young
- 58:26Speaker 1: man's door and he still didn't answer. Ladies, when this
- 58:30Speaker 1: is over, rewind and listen to what I said about
- 58:32Speaker 1: a man disrespecting you. The level of disrespect this young
- 58:36Speaker 1: woman TiSER received. It's four in the morning. You got
- 58:39Speaker 1: there and called eight times, You're knocked on his door
- 58:42Speaker 1: and he eggetting the hell out of you not to
- 58:44Speaker 1: mention you already his side chick. What else is there
- 58:47Speaker 1: to do, especially after you sent him that I see
- 58:51Speaker 1: you want to die? Texts well, you gotta attempt to
- 58:55Speaker 1: kill him. Let's go to News twelve New Jersey to
- 58:57Speaker 1: see how tire and Russell hands in this situation. A
- 58:59Speaker 1: woman accused of setting a man's home on fire after
- 59:02Speaker 1: she was invited over for a late night rendezvous. Police
- 59:06Speaker 1: say the small twenty nine year olds Hesia Russell, went
- 59:09Speaker 1: to the home on Barbara Avenue, North Jersey. Dot Com
- 59:12Speaker 1: reports the man fell asleep did not answer the door.
- 59:15Speaker 1: They say that's when Russell set the home on fire.
- 59:18Speaker 1: The man was taken to the hospital with burns and
- 59:20Speaker 1: smoking elation. Todger was determined to have a hot date.
- 59:23Speaker 1: All right, Remember when I told you that if a
- 59:25Speaker 1: man falls asleep on you before you get there, that
- 59:27Speaker 1: means the thought of your poom poom makes them sleepy.
- 59:30Speaker 1: You out there giving out that boring ass box. Well,
- 59:32Speaker 1: I think Todger realized that in her mind, and she
- 59:34Speaker 1: was not leaving that house that night without the word
- 59:37Speaker 1: fire coming out of that man's mouth. She wanted that
- 59:39Speaker 1: worry to be used to describe her vagina, but she
- 59:41Speaker 1: didn't get that opportunity, so she decided to set his
- 59:44Speaker 1: crib ablaze. Okay, I'm gonna be honest with you other
- 59:47Speaker 1: than her having an arson charge and an attempted murder
- 59:50Speaker 1: charge and being held without bail. I kind of feel him,
- 59:53Speaker 1: all right. See, let's just be a lesson to you fools,
- 59:57Speaker 1: all right. Stop standing women up like that after you
- 59:59Speaker 1: didn't waste the their time, energy and money that comes
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: see you. All right, it's disrespectful and just not right.
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: But ladies, don't be like Taja. When a man doesn't
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: value you, doesn't appreciate you, stands you up. Don't do
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: what Tija did, even though it hurts not to react,
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: all right, don't do what Taija did. Yeah, I know
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: you really want to work this out, but I don't
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: think this man is ever gonna change all right when
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: you do, but they don't. I just think it's best
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: you go your separate ways, all right. Sometimes you have
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: to ask yourself, why should I stay in this relationship
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: when you're hurting, baby, you ain't happy baby. Let's there's
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: just so many other things you gotta deal with, So
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: I just think that you should let it burn, all right.
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: Please let me remond. Give Tiger Russell the biggest he
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: hall he ha he ha, he's stupid. Volume I might
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: put something on our books. I might might just put
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: bars eminems or something, some peanut eminems or something. My goodness,
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: I feel our pain a little bit. All right, well,
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: thank you for that donkey today now very literal and
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: true to her words. What would get for having her hot?
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: I thought at four in the morning. All right, we
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: got more coming up next with a breakfast club, the
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: breakfast club e j envy angela ye Charlemagne the god.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: We are the breakfast Club. We have a special guest
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: in the belt, Miss Tina Lifford. Welcome, good morning, Welcome,
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: I'm blessed black and Holly favorite. How you know that's
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: the truth. That's right me too. You got a book out,
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: the Little Book of Lies, a little book of big lies?
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: What was a big lie? Big lie is anything that
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: has ever happened in your in your life that has
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: left you feeling less than, not good enough or incapable.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: Oh so, basically like the traumas that you've dealt with,
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: traumas you know that teacher that said something true to you.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: Hold on to that experience of seeing something that traumatized
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: you like my father did. Whatever it is that stold
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: your power is a lie, that co work that talks
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: about you all the time, A lies about you. Say
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: it again. Now you heard me, I said that coworker
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: lies about absolutely. Well, if in fact that lie actually
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: steals your power, then it is a lie. If it
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: doesn't steal your power, then it's just noise. Okay, Like
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: people we were talking about the term by ugly when
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: people say by ugly, and I've been getting that my
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: whole life, but I didn't realize it was a bad
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: term until this morning. And isn't that good? You know,
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: because if you didn't internalize its power, then then it
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: had no power over right. But when those events happen
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: in our lives and they wind up being stuck in
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: our emotional system and now they begin to shape how
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: we see and experience ourselves and others, that's a lie.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: And it's a lie that we need to take our
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: power back. So you've said in this book that emotional
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: pain and frustration that we have that comes from these
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: guys that we've been told a lot of times. When
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: we have these chronic issues that we're dealing with, it's
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: because something that somebody said to us has really stuck
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: with us and we've internalized, we have internalized. Do you
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: use that pain sometimes and you're acting. Oh my goodness, gracious, yes,
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: I mean I think that one of the best parts
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: of being an actor is that the profession requires that
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: you explore your internal experiences and be able to access them.
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: And so being able to touch pain and old pain
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: is what a lot of people call the method act
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: method process. I don't do that. I so love the
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: human condition. I so understand that we are all the
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: same on the outside. We got a lot of different
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: details going on, but on the inside, when it comes
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: to the emotional part of us, were the exact same.
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: If in fact, something hurts you, then that hurt becomes
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: a part of our experience. It loops in our lives
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: until we actively go in and address it. And so
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: it's really easy for me to as an actress, tap
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: into emotional pain because I know what it is right
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: and I don't have to bring up, you know, something
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: from my past. I just know if I'm living the
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: life of the character in front of me, then that
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: character is at an emotional place that I know. I've
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: been there, We've all been there. Everybody could be an actor.
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: If you can accept and relate to and own your
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: emotional experience, Now you dedicated this book to your brother. YEA,
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Ye what happened to your brother?
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: So let's start with the fact that my brother started
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: smoke can Read when he was maybe eleven years old.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: And I know this after the fact, right, But he
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: died at fifty from a drug overdose, two weeks out
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: of rehab. And the reason the book is dedicated to
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: my brother is because he truly was one of the
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: best people that I know, but he was sensitive in
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: a way that wasn't good in this world, particularly when
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: he also had the challenge of being of not being
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: able to read. And at that time, they didn't know
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: that it was dyslexic, that he was dyslexic, right, So
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: you go from the early experiences of not being like
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: the other kids, and then my father also could not
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: read and that was not something that my father dealt
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: with appropriately where my brother was concerned. So my brother
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: had no rules, right, and my father was able to
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: power through where my brother couldn't. And I think that
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: my brother and my father, and I'll say this without
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: any sense of protection, I think that my father was
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: hard on my brother because he was making him ready
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: for the world. But he was hard on a child
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: that was more sensitive than he was, and so that
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: child needed a different level of interaction and care. Oh
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: that's powerful. The reason that's so powerful is because as men,
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: we have issues with our father and the way they
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: may have been tough on us, the way they may
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: have discipline us, Because as you grow older, you realize
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: it was kind of just doing the best they could.
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: He was teaching based off the experiences that he'd been doing,
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: what he had learned, and his limited knowledge of himself
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: and his way of navigating the world right, which really,
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: you know, if you if you are projecting your way
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: of navigating the world onto someone else and you're not
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: taking time to actually know that person, you might very
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: well be running over the very essence of another human beings. Yeah,
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: you know, trying to help them be like you, right,
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: Because we always talk about kids and they'll say, oh, kids,
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: they're too sensitive nowadays, But all kids have different levels
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: our sensitivity. Absolutely, we all need to slow down and
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: really connect with the person in front of us. And
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: the reason we don't do that is that we are
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: afraid that we don't want to challenge our own mindset
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: and beliefs, and so we need everyone to agree that
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: the way in which we see it is the way
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: in which it is and is correct, and to challenge
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: our beliefs is to put us in a place of discomfort,
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: because if I don't know what I know, then how
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: do I survive? How do you feel about marijuana now?
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: Because you mentioned marijuana and your brother started smoking at eleven,
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: so many different states of legalizing it, but obviously for
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: your brother could have been a gateway drug to something stronger.
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: How do you feel about marijuana use. Marijuana was not
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: my brother's gateway. Payne was his gateway. Oh right. I
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: think that the challenge with any drug use, even recreational
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: drug use, is that if we don't know ourselves well enough,
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: then it is very easy for a substance to step
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: in and help calm the disease that is inside of us,
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: when what we really should be doing is finding more
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: effective ways to calm that disease. Take care of yourself,
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: connect with yourself, be able to be with yourself. Then
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: you won't need the substances to make it okay to
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: just be here. We have more of our conversation with
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: author and star of Queen Sugar, Tina Lifford coming up next,
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: it's the Breakfast Club wanting everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee,
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: Charlomagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club now if
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: you just join us. We were talking about Little Wayne's daughter,
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: Yestayne Antoya Rice daughter, and she went to this cucumber
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: pool party and she previously had been really not excited
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: about these women doing this cucumber challenge, so people were
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: getting at her for being at the party, but she said, Okay, guys,
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: I want to say this. I went to the party
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: to spy on wife and Lucci females. Don't act like
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: you never did it. But when I heard about the
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: cucumber activities, I left. To be honest, I made myself
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: look like a fool for this man, and I apologize
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: for allowing you guys to see it. I'm young and
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: still learning. Now, have you ever spot on your man before?
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: You have? I ever did a pop up if you
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: want to call it, Yeah, you know I've done a
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: pop up. I don't trying to think if I've ever
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: gone to a party, but I've definitely popped up at
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: his house. I did that a couple of times. One
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: time I actually climbed through the window that's a real
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: pop up. And that's because I knew something was going on.
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: And sometimes even though we know things, we want to
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: see it with our own eyes. I don't know why,
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: but I guess that was really the end of it
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: for me, to be able to see somebody doing something
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: with my own eyes. Yeah, I've done it once to twice,
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: Charlemagne always. I grew up a very insecure young man too.
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: And when you are the type of person like me
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: who was cheating on my woman and made me feel guilty,
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: so that on top of my insecurity, I thought she
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: was doing dirt when she wasn't. So, yes, I popped
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: up at jobs. I've popped up at dorms ipped the class,
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: went to apartments. I popped u the class, well, my
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: motorcycle right to a class. Well, well you think she
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: was doing in class? I don't know. I don't know.
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: You just want to see. Maybe she passed in a note,
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: Maybe she holding her hands like as a guy. As
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: a guy when a guy is already doing hurt, like
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: you automatically think your woman is just like you know,
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: sucking everywhere. You know what I'm saying, Like, even if
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: she's not like any you can go down anytime any place.
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: So yes, definitely had guys pop up on me. Was
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: at parties and listen, I'll leave a party if somebody
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: trying to pop up on me, I slide out and
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: be like, this is ridiculous. Are you pop up? Like?
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: You know, like I say, like say, like, you know,
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: my wife was in college. They used to be party
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: in at this place called five points five pence puts.
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: All the college kids used to go on Thursday night.
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: I mean, anybody could go hang out there, but that
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: wasn't really my scene. But you just pop up at
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: a random place, like what are you doing here? Like,
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: you know, you just just be in Charlotte Ruce while
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: she in there, like why are you in Charlotte Ruce?
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: Just doing a little shot? It's a clothing herself. But
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: you know, you just you just pop up in random places.
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: You ain't got no business being. Why are you at
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: my old b g y n Oh? I don't know.
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: I just say nothing, Hello, who's this? Hello? My name
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: is jazz Man. How are you going? Jazzmine? Queen of
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: the pop up Jasmine is way too loud to be
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: popping up on somebody. No, definitely popped up on that
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: as but uh, let me tell y'all. Let me tell y'all,
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: I'm really gonn pop up queen. Though, let me say
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: I had a tracker on my on my every daddy
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: car for like three years and he never knew it. Wow,
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: he was like, damgn't like thinking that his friends had
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: thrown them and everything like that. But really he had
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: no idea that I was just like tracking that ass
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: so all day every day. I don't know how he
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: couldn't figure that out when you were just showing up
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: play put a track on somebody's call. Clearly they do
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: jos when you're crazy, crazy as hell, don't play with me,
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: And you did that for three years. He never knew though, right,
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: he never knew so listening, Like one time he went
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: out to eat with this girl, like I said in
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: the parking Jobs, I got him eat it everything. They
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: went back to his apartment, you know what I'm saying,
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: Like I'm just just following him, and he was like, okay,
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: so he kee, So I just you know, I just
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: walked up to the apartment, knocked on the door. They
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: turned off the lights and stuff, try to hide him
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: stuff and the texting the girls phone, like like he
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: got five minutes to come outside on coming in that
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: thing and like they scattered up. That as crazy that
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: for three years he wasn't scared enough to stop doing
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: the stuff he was doing. Sharing. Yes, you ever popped
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: upon an ex or man or your man? You know what? No,
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: because there's something that's going on. I don't want to
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: know about it. You're get in trouble when you go
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: looking for trouble. But here's my story. So I found
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: out that my soon to be ex husband um put
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: his cell phone in my car. So one day on
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: part and all of a sudden, I just hear this
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: music out of the blue, and I'm like, what is that?
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: So I looked at my that feat and he shoved
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: his cell phone in between my back seat so he
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: could track me. So he didn't have his cell phone
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: on him, he just left it him. Yeah exactly. He
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: said he had a second form dang while he had
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: to charge that every day. That's why did he not
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: trust you? Was there a reason or he just h
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: his insecurities? M M all right exactly. DeAngelo. Oh you
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: propped upon your wife? Man? Oh yeah, oh yeah, good morning,
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: by the way, good morning. He's like, good morning, Cristal all,
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: I'm not crazy. What you do the uh angling? Well, yeah,
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: I responded to what she did. She wasn't out, and
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: I didn't want her to go out, so I got
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: my daughter in the truck, put my dog yet the
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: truck and pulled up at the club on called her
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: in line. But at the thing it was, I knew
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: that I brought my dog with him because I felt
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: like I was gonna have to go into the club.
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: But I didn't have to go in the club, thank god.
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: But I got out cause a little thing in the line.
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: Got her in the truck and then we pulled off.
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: You brought your dog, can't get out of the car
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: and your daughter and me while I'm yelling at huh.
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: So you was gonna bring your dog and daughter in
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: the club to final Now I was gonna be the
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: dog and the daughter in the car while I was
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: in the club. How old is your daughter? Oh? She
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: was a baby, baby? Then the baby. So you're about
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: to go to jail. You're about to go to jail
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: because of your own into charity. I'm nice all night.
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: Oh man, you should the dog in the club and
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: he raps it alized it like you know, what my
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: dog go watch my daughter while I go in the
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: club for a second. I have the best guard dog.
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: I want to did it had my dog been been been?
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: Like you want to end war? But you know, all right, man,
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's too much good. I ain't gonna front
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: that in a bad idea. I leave. I lead the
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: dog in the car with the kids of terrible this
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: shut up? What's the mather of the story? The mall
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: of the stories. Get your insecurities together, bro okay, trust me,
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: I've been there. I feel sorry for Reginator, but she
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: young though, you know what I mean, So I get it.
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: You know you're just happening for her. Yeah, you do
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: stuff like that when you're young, when you have those insecurities,
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: and you know you just want to make sure somebody
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: doing right by you. I get it, I get it,
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: all right. We got more coming up next with a
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: breakfast Club morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: the God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: special guest in the building, yep, author David Back. Thank
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: you for having me. He's one of the most trusted
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: financial experts in the world. Correct, okay, and a best
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: selling financial author, and you have a new book called
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: The Latte Factor. I'm just super grateful to have it.
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: Beyond the showman, thank you. We'll talk to us about
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: the Latte Factor. What are the comparisons between finances and Latti? Yeah, well,
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: because here's the deal. The forty four to ten Americans
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: right now cannot get their hands on one hundred dollars
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: in case of emergency. Jesus take that four out of ten.
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: That's better than herpes Herpey's only one in three. Jesus
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: take that in for a second. Wait, six out of
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: ten Americans can't get their hands on a thousand dollars
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: in case of emergency purposes. So seven out of ten
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: Americans living paycheck to paycheck. And what I've been teaching
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: out for almost total twenty six years is that we
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: got to break this. The way you break it, the
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: way you stop living paycheck to paycheck, is you realize
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: the small amounts of money can change your life. So
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: I created this concept called the Latte Factor, which is
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: the idea that if sad wasting five bucks a day
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: on a lot day, you took that five dollars a day,
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: you put it inside your retirement account. You paid yourself first,
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: you could become a millionaire. So so here's what you
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: needent bag. But we got this, We got this little story,
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: we got this metaphor in here, and got chart right,
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: and a little simple chart shows you that, by the way,
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: it takes a lifetime. Here, it takes you start in
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: your twenties five dollars a day. By the time forty
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: years later, at ten percent interests, it's worth nine hundred
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: and forty eight thousand dollars. Okay, now someone, yeah, so
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: that's starting in your twenties right now. There's a chart
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: on page one thirty four shows somebody saving more than
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: five dollars a day. Okay, three hundred bucks a month. Okay,
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: you're twenty five, you saved three hundred bucks a month.
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: By the time you reach retirement, you got one million,
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: nine hundred and thirteen thousand dollars. Now here's the problem, guys.
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: Most people do not start saving at twenty five. They
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: start saving, they start they start thinking about it at
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: thirty five. Do not wait to start saving money. My
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: grandmother helped me buy my first stock at age seven. Wow.
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: But you can only teach what you know. So a
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: lot of these parents. You can't teach finances because they
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: don't know finances. This though, you are absolutely right, and
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: I'm here to say to any parent listening right now,
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: this is my thirteenth book. This is the easiest book
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: I've ever written. And I'm out here watching the videos
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: of all the amazing, incredible artists who have come through here,
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: and a lot of them were wearing six figures in
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: jewelry around their neck. When you start seeing somebody wearing
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: six figures in jewelry on their neck and they don't
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: have a six figure net worth, someone's wrong. I agree.
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: The first thing you focus on if you're listening right
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: now and you don't have any savings is focus. I'm
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: getting a thousand dollars in savings. The take I caught
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: thee hundred day challenge, save ten dollars a day for
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: one hundred days. You're now wealthier than six out of
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: ten people in miracle. Now, what about what people that
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: would say? You know, that sounds great, but what else
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: can I do that's going to be more aggressive? I
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: gotta I'm gonna drop a truth on you right now.
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: Do you want to go and try and get rich overnight?
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: You will stay poor forever. You do not get rich
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: in days, you get rich in decades. Yeah, but see,
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: a lottos are really just a tax on people that
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: are like praying and hoping, right Like, that's not a
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: real way to go and get rich. It's a tax
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: on your hope. It's a taxi optimism. I used to
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: say it's a tax on stupid people. But I want
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: everybody coming out with a gun on me. So so
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: here's the thing. A lot we have people putting more
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: money in the lottery tickets than retirement account. Right. So,
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: if you've got a job today, here's what I want
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: you to do. You have to pay yourself first. You
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: have to get financially selfish. The formula to financial freedom
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: for life is saving one hour day of your income.
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: Whether you make minimum wager you make more the average
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: Americans making about twenty seven dollars an hour right now,
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: one hour a day of your income paid automatically into
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: a retirement account. You can be financially free for life.
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: Can you elaborate on a statement you're richer than you think.
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: You have to learn to think like an investor. There's
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: two things that make people in America wealthy. They are
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: real estate and stocks. If you don't own real estate
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: and you don't own stocks, you don't get into one
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: of these two games or both. You're not on the
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: escalator to building wealth. These are the things that make
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: people wealthier. When you own real estate, the tax laws
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: favor the rich. You can buy it. This is what
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: people don't realize. You can buy a home, living it
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: for two years, sell it, and if you're single, you
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: can keep a quarter of a million dollars in tax
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: free gains. Okay, quote a million dollar tax free. Right.
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: It's the only game in town where the government doesn't
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: tax you, no one of reasons, because the government wants
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: you to have homeowner wants you to own a home. Right. Now,
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: here's the truth. When you look at why is it
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: that wealth goes from one generation to the next or doesn't.
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: It's real estate. So homeowners are forty six times wealthier
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: than renters. So some of the smartest investments for people
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: with new money to make our real estate and stop. Yeah,
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: and the simplest thing is to start with your four
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: one K plan or your IRA account and just start saving,
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: start investing and get yourself you know, you start some
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: of the simples and dex fund. You got a chapter
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: in your book called don't budget and make it automatic?
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: Can you expand on that police. Yeah, so we're all
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: taught to budget. Nobody really does it in the real world.
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: People hate it. So when I teach, is this the
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: way you build wealth for anything? Retirement, buying a car,
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: going on a dream, vocation, saving money for kids who
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: are going to go to college. As you save automatically,
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: money's got to get moved automatically from your paycheck from
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: your income into these different savings accounts, or you won't
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: do it. If you want to know the true formula
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: to being able to retire in your fifties, it is
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: to save. I can give you the exact number right now.
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: It's fourteen percent of your gross income. Okay, but it's
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: fourteen percent of your gross syncome. How do I know
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: these numbers? Because Fidelity Investments run is the largest foreign
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: K planet and I think in the world. They have
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: sixteen million people in the US and their foreign K
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: plant represents twenty thousand companies. They track the amount of
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: people will become millionaires using their fourn K plan, and
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: they've saved fourteen percent of their income for thirty years
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: by the time they reached an average age of fifty nine,
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: they're a four one k million. So the only way
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: you're going to have money in this country is if
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: you take care of yourself. No one's coming to save us. Now,
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: you address one of the law shifts about money in
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: the law te fact, and it takes money to make money.
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: Why that's such a misconception because if you, first of all,
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: if you believe you've got to have a lot of
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: money to start investing, you'll never started defeated already. You're
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: defeated already. It is a poor mental mindset. And so
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: I'll go back to my grandmother. My grandmother was broke
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: at thirty and didn't have a college education, live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: and had a job in retail, a place called Gimbal's
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: Department store. She said, I was always getting my financial
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: advice from my friends, and they were all poor. She said,
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: don't get your financial advice from poor people. There you go.
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: So she went out and started taking classes at adult
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: schools on investing. She found somebody who was a millionaire.
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: Didn't know the person well, but knew the person enough
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: to say, I know you're well off. Funny actually, and
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn how to become wealthier? Would you
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: teach me? She actually asked for a mentor, and she
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: learned over her lifetime what to do and you know,
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: and then pass the lessons on to our family. A
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: lot of times, what happens once you have money is
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: you don't actually care then if you look rich, because
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: you don't care what any else thinks. The weirdest thing
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: is that when we're not rich, we care what people think.
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: Once we are rich, we don't give it. You say,
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: big hat, no cat, big big hat, no cattle. Big
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: it's a Texas phrase because that's right, get the big hat.
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: But you got no cattle. You say, no big polk,
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: no scroke. So if you got a big camp, all right,
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: the state you for joining us, pick up his book
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: The lat say fact that now, and thank you so much,
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: sir guys, thank you for having me on your as.
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I don't know how we got the penises.
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Got to
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: hit the club like you hit them, hit them, get
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: them mangles like everybody's dj N v Angela Yee, Charlomagne,
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: the guy we are the Breakfast Club charlomne Yes, sir
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: uh you got a positive note, yes, man. A positive
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: note is simply this man. It is always better to
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: ask questions than to make an assumption, because assumptions set
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: us up for suffering,