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Trad Wives Are Quitting, "It's Not What It Looks Like" & $1M vs. Being 18 Again · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: Before we get started with the podcast, gotta let you know,
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  Speaker 1: and use the code JOY. Let's set sail. This is
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  Speaker 1: why when people say they don't like feminism, I get
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  Speaker 1: violently angry.
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  Speaker 2: Now I know how to make a million.
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  Speaker 1: I know how to make a billion.
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  Speaker 2: A variety of ways.
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  Speaker 1: I know how to make a trillion. I've been told
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  Speaker 1: some spectacular lies.
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  Speaker 2: He was bold.
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  Speaker 1: OK, I was lied to as well. He jumps up,
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  Speaker 1: runs after her and says. Hey, guys, welcome to Personal.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Joy Taylor. Thanks so much for joining us. Haley's
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  Speaker 1: on the couch as well. And Specs. Hello. I like
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  Speaker 1: my way. Thanks so much for joining us. Make sure
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  Speaker 1: you subscribe and follow us on social at 2PersonalShow. What's happening, Haley?
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  Speaker 2: Ex-tribe wives are walking away.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they're leaving the life?
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  Speaker 2: Can you believe it?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness. So, for the last few years, they've
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  Speaker 2: romanticized the tribe wives. Stay home, raise the children, cook
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  Speaker 2: from scratch, embrace traditional gender roles, and allow your husband
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  Speaker 2: to be the primary provider. But that is no longer.
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  Speaker 1: What a shock. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Um, they, it's not that they aren't rejecting motherhood and
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  Speaker 2: homemaking or even traditional relationships, but they're questioning the power structure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, why would that be?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Researchers are calling it, calling it detrading. Bernadine Bluntley
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  Speaker 2: built an online following advocating traditional gender roles, built up
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  Speaker 2: to 141,000 YouTube subscribers, sold anti-feminist merchandise, created a digital
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  Speaker 2: course aimed at teaching young women how to attract traditionally
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  Speaker 2: minded men. She's now telling The Times that she was
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  Speaker 2: considering leaving her relationship and now has left. She's co-parenting
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  Speaker 2: with six children and says she's increasingly felt that her
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  Speaker 2: own ambitions and talents were treated as secondary and eventually
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  Speaker 2: as obstacles. You know, she started getting her own money
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  Speaker 2: as being an influencer and, yeah, just... So, do you
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  Speaker 2: think women were sold an aesthetic before they were sold
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  Speaker 2: the reality? Or, I mean, what's... We knew this was coming.
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  Speaker 2: This was, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: This is why when people say they don't like feminism,
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  Speaker 1: I get violently angry. Because it's important to shut the
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  Speaker 1: fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: The entire idea of being a trad wife influencer is
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  Speaker 1: an oxymoron. If you are truly anti-feminism, if you are
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  Speaker 1: truly a traditional woman, I shouldn't hear your fucking voice. Ooh. Period.
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  Speaker 1: You don't get to denounce feminism whilst using the rights, platforms,
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  Speaker 1: and latitudes that feminism fought to give you. You cannot
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  Speaker 1: teach as a traditional woman. You cannot sell as a
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  Speaker 1: traditional woman. Your ambitions, goals, and talents are are irrelevant
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  Speaker 1: as a traditional woman. So the entire idea of a
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  Speaker 1: professional trad wife makes no goddamn sense. You cannot have
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  Speaker 1: a credit card. You cannot have a business. You cannot
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  Speaker 1: have an LLC, an S-corp, an accountant. You cannot have
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  Speaker 1: your own voice. You cannot have your own opinion. You
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  Speaker 1: cannot make content. You cannot do these things As a
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  Speaker 1: traditional woman, you are either a feminist who is promoting
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  Speaker 1: an aesthetic or you are a traditional woman and I
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  Speaker 1: never see your fucking face. That is how it works.
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  Speaker 1: So the whole idea that these women are detratting, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're not. No, you're not. You were never a traditional
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  Speaker 1: woman in the first fucking place. It's not my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a historical fact. And if you're too fucking
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  Speaker 1: stupid to read... And if you're too fucking stupid to
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  Speaker 1: know history and you're too fucking arrogant to accept the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you really just want a rich man to
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  Speaker 1: take care of your life, then I have no time
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  Speaker 1: for you. I've never had any time for these bitches.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not because I don't think that traditional women
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  Speaker 1: should exist. I know traditional women. Yeah. And they have
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  Speaker 1: the life that they asked for. And it's a great life.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to be a wife, a mother, a homemaker, cook,
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  Speaker 1: make cereal from scratch, make milk from scratch, have a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of babies, like raise a family. Your husband is
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  Speaker 1: the provider and the leader and you submit to him.
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  Speaker 1: Have the fuck at it. I love that for you. Truly,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not being sarcastic. If that is what you want
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  Speaker 1: to do, that is exactly what you should do. And
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  Speaker 1: you should do it completely. But the idea that being
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  Speaker 1: a professional woman, being a career woman, making your own
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  Speaker 1: decisions over your body, over your life, over your home,
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  Speaker 1: over your money, over your opinion and your thoughts and
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  Speaker 1: your talent somehow denounces The idea of a traditional life
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  Speaker 1: and the rights for them to exist and the respect
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  Speaker 1: that you have for them is bullshit. I believe women
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  Speaker 1: should have the lives they want to have. If you
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  Speaker 1: want that life, go have that life. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's beautiful for you. If you want to not get married,
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  Speaker 1: not have kids, have a career and live on your own. Hello.
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  Speaker 1: You should be able to do that, too. It's called equality. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I want? And we'll actually do this.
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  Speaker 2: It's bits and pieces I like from the traditional wife's life, right?
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  Speaker 2: Where it's, you're not working at certain times of the day,
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  Speaker 2: so you can be a part of the PTA and
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  Speaker 2: be at your son's school at 10 a.m., right? I
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  Speaker 2: can run caregiver's coffee, right? I can go on every
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  Speaker 2: field trip. I can be there at pickup where he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have to go to the after-school program. I can
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  Speaker 2: do all these things. But you know what I also
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  Speaker 2: love to do? Sit on the couch with you and
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  Speaker 2: do this and go home and do what I need
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  Speaker 2: to do work-related-wise, like.
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  Speaker 1: I like both. And you like to drive a car. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want to contribute to the household. And you have
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  Speaker 1: your own money. And you like to wear your titties
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  Speaker 1: out when you feel like it.
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  Speaker 2: I do, yep.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And you like to wear makeup. And you like
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  Speaker 1: to have your own phone.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Right? And you like to travel by yourself without being
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  Speaker 1: accompanied by a man. Right? You like to have your
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  Speaker 1: own identification card that says that you're a human being.
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  Speaker 1: You like to vote. Right. All of those things are
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  Speaker 1: a result of feminism. Yep. It is not the idea
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  Speaker 1: of hating men. It is not the idea of hating marriage.
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  Speaker 1: It is not the idea of hating children of motherhood.
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  Speaker 1: All of that is bullshit propaganda that is perpetrated by
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  Speaker 1: white supremacism to oppress women and keep the extreme divide
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  Speaker 1: that is already existing in our society healthy and well.
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  Speaker 1: And it did its job. Because women do sometimes want
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  Speaker 1: to be provided for and have the life that you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about and not work. But all women don't. But
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  Speaker 1: some women do want that. And when they say they
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  Speaker 1: want that, there is this automatic assumption that a woman
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  Speaker 1: like me is like, loser. I don't give a fuck
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  Speaker 1: what you do. I genuinely don't give a fuck what
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  Speaker 1: you do. And I use this example all the time
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  Speaker 1: when I talk about traditional women because my older sister
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  Speaker 1: is one of the most successful people that I know.
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  Speaker 1: She wanted to be a wife, a mother, a grandmother.
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  Speaker 1: She wanted to raise a family and she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: keep a house. Guess what she did? All of those things.
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  Speaker 1: She has been with the same man since they got
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  Speaker 1: married at 19 years old where she had her first
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  Speaker 1: kiss on the altar. The only man she has ever
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  Speaker 1: gone on a date with. They've been together for 35 years,
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  Speaker 1: maybe more. I might be shorting them. She has five children,
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  Speaker 1: all with her husband. They have two grandchildren and she
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  Speaker 1: raised them and took care of the house and he worked.
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  Speaker 1: That is pure success to me that she did what
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  Speaker 1: she wanted to do with her life. To me, that
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  Speaker 1: is a definition of success. I put her on the
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  Speaker 1: same pedestal that I put billionaires that I know, artists,
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  Speaker 1: like she did what she wanted to do with her life.
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  Speaker 1: That is so hard to do. And she did it
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  Speaker 1: at a very high level. And obviously like they're extremely blessed.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of things had to happen right for that
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  Speaker 1: to go the way that it did. But to me,
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  Speaker 1: that is success. And she looks at me as a
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  Speaker 1: success as well. even though we couldn't have had more
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  Speaker 1: opposite lives. And that is because we both respect each
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  Speaker 1: other and respect the idea that we might not want
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  Speaker 1: the same things for our lives. So this whole, like,
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  Speaker 1: trad exit to me is just fucking embarrassing because it's
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  Speaker 1: so weak. If you want to be a traditional woman,
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  Speaker 1: go be that. Why do you need a... do you
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  Speaker 1: need us to validate it yeah why do you need
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  Speaker 1: to put push this idea that that women are being
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  Speaker 1: lied to and then that this is really the life
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  Speaker 1: oh how much propaganda did it take to convince women
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  Speaker 1: that this is oppression you're the propaganda Bitch, you're using
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  Speaker 1: feminism to push as a platform to push your bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: If it wasn't for feminism, I wouldn't know your goddamn name.
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  Speaker 1: Where is your husband? Why are you talking? Where is
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  Speaker 1: your husband? If you are truly anti-feminism, shut the fuck
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  Speaker 1: up and get your husband out here. I don't speak
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  Speaker 1: to you. You submit to your husband. He is the
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  Speaker 1: one I need to talk to. Because the second he
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  Speaker 1: empowers you, you're no longer a traditional woman, babe. That's
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  Speaker 1: not how this works. You don't get to pick and
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  Speaker 1: choose the parts of being traditional, the parts of being
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  Speaker 1: conservative that align with your aesthetic.
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  Speaker 2: They realize it now.
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  Speaker 1: But that's why people were always talking shit to them.
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  Speaker 1: Because you do it when it's convenient, right? You're getting
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  Speaker 1: the fucking eggs from your little chicken coop and shit. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But then you're selling aprons. Well, that's commerce. That's a business.
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  Speaker 1: That's not traditional. Dressing like Betty Crocker. Yeah. That's nasty.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, it's it just the principle of it is
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  Speaker 1: there's all of these women who are in that space
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  Speaker 1: who have created these brands for themselves of traditional women.
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  Speaker 2: Capitalism.
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  Speaker 1: And and and you're using feminism to create the brand.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same shit as Nicki Minaj saying
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  Speaker 1: that Democrats shouldn't be using pop culture icons and music
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  Speaker 1: artists to promote their politics and their party. But you,
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  Speaker 1: a pop culture icon and a music artist, are promoting
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  Speaker 1: the Republican Party. The shit that doesn't make sense pisses
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  Speaker 1: me the fuck off.
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  Speaker 2: Walking contradictions.
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  Speaker 1: It's a nonsense farm. Like, if you are a traditional woman,
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  Speaker 1: shut your fucking mouth. I should never hear a word
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  Speaker 1: you say. Dumb cunts. And it makes me mad because
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  Speaker 1: it's like you have the audacity. You have the fucking
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  Speaker 1: audacity to talk about women who are making their own
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  Speaker 1: choices just like you are. How fucking dare you? And
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  Speaker 1: the equality part of it is important. I was just
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  Speaker 1: having this conversation about the divide between men and women
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  Speaker 1: and traditional relationships and what men want and what women
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  Speaker 1: want and why there's so much animosity. Women... having their
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  Speaker 1: own money. And some of these women talked about it, right? Like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: now I have to wait for my child support because
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any money because he made all the money. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't able to leave when I wanted to because
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  Speaker 1: he had control of all the money and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: make any money. Yes. When I talked about making my
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  Speaker 1: partner giving me $ 5, 000 a month and I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: I need to put some money away every month in
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  Speaker 1: case he changed his mind. This is why. When someone
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  Speaker 1: else controls your money or your ability to make money,
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  Speaker 1: you are at a disadvantage. It doesn't matter what the
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  Speaker 1: good book says. It doesn't matter what your favorite trad
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  Speaker 1: wife influencer says. At the end of the day, you
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  Speaker 1: may have a wonderful man, Like my brother-in-law who provides
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  Speaker 1: for his family, who is loyal and kind and does
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  Speaker 1: his end of the work and is a protector. You
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  Speaker 1: may have that and be safe for your entire life.
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  Speaker 1: And like, what a wonderful thing to have. Or that
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  Speaker 1: man may wake up one day and decide he's leaving
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  Speaker 1: you for a 21 year old and you have no money.
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  Speaker 1: You have children to take care of. You have no skills.
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  Speaker 1: You have no education. You have nowhere to go. You
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  Speaker 1: have no family. And now you are homeless. Homeless because
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  Speaker 1: this man has decided he no longer wants anything to
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  Speaker 1: do with you. Like that is the risk that you're taking.
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  Speaker 1: And that's your risk to take. I think you should
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  Speaker 1: have a right to do that. If that's the life
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  Speaker 1: you want, fucking do it. But that is the risk
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  Speaker 1: you're taking when you do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just stop pushing it on everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: Just do you. Do you, boo. Or push it. But, like,
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  Speaker 1: push it to your neighbor and, like, to the woman
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  Speaker 1: that comes up and drops a package off at your house.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's the only people you're interacting with because you
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  Speaker 1: sure as fuck don't have the internet. Bitch, you are
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be barefoot in a kitchen somewhere carving out peaches.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you talking to me on the internet and
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  Speaker 1: selling fucking anti-feminist t-shirts?
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  Speaker 2: This conversation is so unserious.
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  Speaker 1: It's very fucking unserious. It's unserious. And fuck those bitches, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: because the work that they did for the patriarchy, I'm
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: not forgetting that. And this is actually something that I
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  Speaker 1: want to point out because this is what's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen over the next couple of years. If we survive
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: the AI apocalypse, if all of this politics, everything that's happening,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to swing the other way. It always does.
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  Speaker 1: It's not some edgy take I have. It always fucking does.
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  Speaker 1: It swings. Then in a few years, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: swing back. It's what we do, but you're already seeing it. Podcasters,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: people who were supportive or like slowly backing off. Well,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't vote for that. Well, I, I didn't know
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that this was going to happen. Well, I don't support
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: ice kill. You know, I didn't think that that was okay.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no. We saw you. We have the video. We
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: have you kiki-ing and ball-licking all up and down the
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  Speaker 1: fucking internet. No, you don't get to just defect and
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  Speaker 1: not take responsibility for the work that you did. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I believe in redemption and second chances. So you can
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: come back. You can smarten up. You can learn. But
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: not without accountability, baby. You're going to have to say
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: what the fuck you did. recognize the damage that you caused,
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  Speaker 1: and acknowledge it, and then do the work to fix it.
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  Speaker 1: So these bitches who are like, oh, well, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize that everything I was preaching actually wasn't going to
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: work out. No, bitch. You are who you are, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: now you have to take accountability, and you have to
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  Speaker 1: do the work to tell the real fucking story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They don't want to take accountability.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: You don't get to just skip over here with the—
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  Speaker 1: fucking girl bosses? Uh-uh.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they gonna do though.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's a
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: barrier for entry over here and you gonna have to
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: pay your dues and it's expensive. Okay? You gonna have
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: to buy your way into here. That shit is not
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: how it works. You do not get to do all
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: this fucking legwork for the patriarchy. You don't get to
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: be a fucking tool for oppression and then just pop
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: up over here like the door's open and you was
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: on the list the whole time. No, the fuck you weren't.
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  Speaker 1: Access denied. Now you can come in once you've shown
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: that you've learned. And once you tell the world, go
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: on ahead. You know where the camera is because you
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: was over there talking and popping that shit when you
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: was making that cereal. Do that shit. That's so funny.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: You keep bringing up the cereal because that was literally
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: the first video I seen of hers. And I was
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: just like, this is some bullshit. Bullshit. Also, like, fine.
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  Speaker 1: Make your fucking cereal. Okay. But while you're making the cereal,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: talk about how you have your own business and you're
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: grateful for that. And thank you, feminism, for allowing me
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: to do that. Tell the fucking truth. I'm all about people.
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  Speaker 1: People should be able to leave. We want people to
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  Speaker 1: leave the bullshit behind. But you have to acknowledge it,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: especially if you did damage. Yeah. Like, what the fuck
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  Speaker 1: are we doing? People don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, well, you ain't going to. I don't give a fuck.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck you, bitches.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: So when it does swing the other way, we're going
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: to be stuck with.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: People that have no. I'm like a glorious bastard around here. Uh-uh.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: We don't like that. You're going to take that fancy
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: uniform off. I don't like that. Incredible movie. But that's, listen,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I'm Brad Pitt in Inglourious Basterds. Don't let me get
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: a knife. All y'all gonna have that little shit on
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: your forehead. You ain't walking over here. No, ma'am.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So I was talking to a friend
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  Speaker 2: this weekend and she asked me a question. And I've
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: been thinking about it ever since. She asked me, she
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: was like, why is it that when, I'm gonna just
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: say partner, so it's not just men. Why is it
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: that when your partner gets caught cheating, they're caught? There's proof.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: You are red-handed caught. You might as well have been
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: caught in the act. You still continue to lie. Because
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: if this were court and the jury came out and said,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: we find you guilty, you can't then re-plea your case
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: in that moment.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: You are going to.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Wait for your sentencing. What the fuck is that? And
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn, how do I answer this? I
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: don't know. They believe their lies. They just.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, technically, if it was court, you would
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: be accused and then you would have the opportunity to
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: defend yourself.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: But once you're found guilty, you guilty.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: OK, so so you're saying after you were you found
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: guilty like she presented. OK. And the jury was the prosecutor. Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: The jury has found you guilty. Yes. Okay. You cannot
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: change your plea at this point. No. Yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Still lying though.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I think in my experiences with this where I have
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: caught people, they have very obviously never thought through what
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: they would say if they were to get caught.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Which I find fascinating because anytime I've done something wrong,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I am immediately thinking, I'm going to get out of it.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Like immediately I'm like, well, okay, so who is there?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Who can incriminate me? How far can this go? What
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: excuses do I have? Like I am, I'm trying to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: wiggle my way out of it, period. Like that's my default.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: And then the other option is, to your point, I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: might just tell the truth and then see where that
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: lands me. And also, I might be like, I don't
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: give a fuck if they find out. And I'm not
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: just talking about cheating. Like, I'm saying all kinds of bullshit.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck if they find out.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: There's that, too.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: There's that, too. So, I just think people don't think
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: through their actions. Like, they don't think about the possible consequences.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I am always thinking about possible consequences. And listen, that
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean to stop me from doing dumb shit, but...
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: But I've thought about the consequences.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: And they have to be believing these lies. There were
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: lies told along the way. And especially in this particular situation,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: it had gone on for some time. It's like double
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: life situation.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: It's so much work.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of work and energy.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: How do you have the energy? That's a lot of lying.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: If you put the energy into like a business that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you put into a double life, like think about that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I like at that point you might as well be like,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I'm just.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Such a Capricorn. I'm like, how could I make money
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: off of this? What would I be doing that would
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: be making me money rather than doing this? Yeah. I mean,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I don't, I've been told some spectacular lies.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I hate lying.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I just, you know, one of the most notorious lies
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I have ever experienced in my life. I was seeing
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: this man and okay. to be clear, I feel like
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I always have to put a timeline on this for people.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Cause they're like, Oh, this was last month. This was
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: like 20, over 20 years. This was over 20 years ago. Okay.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Over 20 years ago, I was seeing this man and, uh, he,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I knew that he had had a girlfriend recently and he,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I asked him about it and he was like, Oh no,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: we broke up. Like she's not in town anymore, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so we're hooking up. For a while.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: For like, you know, a month or two. And I'm
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: at his house one day. And we have just had sex.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And we're just laying there. And I hear the front door, like,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the knob, like, moving. And he goes... pale they had
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a key and yeah but he had a roommate okay
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: we're young so he had a roommate and i was
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: like what's up like it's your roommate and he was
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: like no it's not i was like what the fuck
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: do you mean he's not your roommate whose fuck is
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: coming in your house she walks into the room oh
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: no with suitcases it was.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Like a movie this is like right so you don't
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: have any clothes on no are you under the cover.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: No is staring at us i'm staring at her i'm
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: looking at him i'm like fuck i have to fight
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: this bitch naked that sucks sucks that's a fear of
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: mine my me too yeah yeah me three so she
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: drops the suitcases screams and runs out of the room
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: mind you i've never met this person right so you're
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like he jumps up Runs after her and says, baby,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: it's not what it looks like. Well, how does it look?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I don't have any clothes on, sir. Neither do you.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Dick and ball swinging. Fresh with pussy juice, might I add.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: We've just had sex, okay? The post-cum drip is coming
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: out here. He is running after this girl saying it's
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: not what it looks like. You are ass naked. You
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: don't even have socks on.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: He did not think that through.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, first of all. So anyway, I get I
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: with the quickness get up and get dressed. I'm gonna
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here. Like I'm not getting
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: killed and I am not fighting naked. So I get
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I get my shit and I'm like, boom, I'm out
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: of this bitch. It's clear, right? Not my problem. Right?
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't have shit to do with this. I asked
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the right questions and was lied to. Okay, I was
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: lied to as well. I asked the right questions and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: so up until you walked in, his story had held up.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: There was no sign of a woman in the house.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Where the fuck has she been for two months? I
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: don't fucking know. Listen, I was hot. First of all,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: putting me in that situation is fucking crazy. Lying about
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: that is crazy. Also, You know she has a key.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: That's why he was bold. Her travel plans changed. He
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: was caught off guard.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Did you think it's true at all?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: At all.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And then also, if you're going to run after her.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: As naked, don't say that. What would he have said, though?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: It's exactly what it looks like. If I had had
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: a gun on me, I'd have been like, girl, it's
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: exactly what it looks like. But I had to get
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: the fuck out of there. Right. But what?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, that's my fear. But to be her
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: is my fear.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Listen, I've been her. I've replayed.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I've like, what would I do in this situation?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I've been her. Not exactly that situation, but I've been her.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I'm going to deal with both of them.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I stood there and I was like, do I stab them?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Do I stab them? Wait, them? Them. Yeah, do I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: stab them? Wait, them? Yeah, do I stab them? The
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: both of them? No, no, no.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It's like when she caught.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Someone doing that. Yes, both of them. Do I stab
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: both of them? Do I stab everyone? No. And I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: had to think about it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: It was like a very much fork in the road
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: situation where I was like, this is one of those
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: moments where like- She had to get beat up too?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: You couldn't change- Absolutely. In my bed? Bitch. Mm-mm.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: You may be getting astray, but you're still in my bed.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: My life was put in danger. There's no question about that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: It wasn't my fault, but my life was in danger.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I got the fuck out of there. For sure. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: thought you were talking about if it was like the reverse.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: We are. No, my life wasn't in danger in the reverse,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: but their life was in danger. Yeah, yeah, for sure,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. I mean, I stood there and I thought,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: and I was like, do I want to go to
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: jail over this? Because I'm going to murder multiple people. Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: You were like, is it worth it? Now, I am
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: not in a state of mind that I'm making. Right.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: It would be, I would plead insanity. But, I don't know.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Are they going to take my side or are they
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: going to see the massacred bodies and go that way?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And I was like, I just, I
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: really don't feel like I should go to jail because
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: someone cheated on me and lied to me. I think
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I should just not stab them.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It was a good choice.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: It was a good choice. I'm very proud of myself.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: But I thought about it. I gave it a good.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I would have also supported an ass whooping though. Who
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: would have supported that?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: No, they had to die. It was, it was too much.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: It happened, but it was just, that's a longer story,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: but it was, it was stabbing time. But yeah, so I, I, yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: that was, that was not the thing to say. The
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: only thing that he could have said in that situation,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: which is 100% his fault was, I'm sorry.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I fucked up.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: That's it. That is the only thing. thing to say.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: The worst thing you can say is it's not what
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: it looks like.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: And he should have apologized to both of you.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, he did eventually. Yeah. Yeah, I got that.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I know he felt so stupid. And I know you
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: clowned the shit out of him.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I said horrible things to that man. None of which
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I regret. Not a single fucking word.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I already know.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I have a lot of really crazy fucking stories.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I really lived a crazy life.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I just hate fucking.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: People lie, though.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: People lie. But even the people that are compulsive liars
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: with the stupid white lies.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Compulsive liars are unbearable to me. When people lie in general,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be lied to. But I understand
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: why people lie. People lie because they're selfish. People lie
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: because they're not confident. People lie because they have insecurities. Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: People lie for a variety of different reasons because they panic.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Compulsive liars or pathological liars are horrifying people to be around.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I hate it.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: They are an incredible liability. And it's usually paired with
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: some other really terrible personality traits. But like in general, yeah,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: people be lying.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: They be lying.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Like when people are like, I never lie. You just lied. Yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Because no one who doesn't lie ever feels the need
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: to say that. Why would I assume that you are
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: lying to me? Now I'm always going to assume you're
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: lying to me because why would you say that?
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Anyone who gets caught cheating and you caught red-handed stop.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Lying they're gonna.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Lie tell another lord they're gonna lie just be quiet
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: just the only hit the nod when.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Is it necessary to lie like when is it like
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: like If it's spinnable... This is an opportunity to lie
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: because it's best for everybody. I think... I think.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I am not advocating for lying, okay? But where I
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: will say, like, people make these sweeping statements about, like, oh,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: my God, if this ever happened, I'm out. Or if
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: this ever lies to me about this, I'm... Maybe.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: You will.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I think that people lie... When people make truly a mistake...
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and they aren't necessarily ready to process or face that mistake,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: that is a more forgivable lie to me than an
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: intentional ongoing deception, double life, you know? And like, for example,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Manti Teo. All right. I think that's a super forgivable lie. Yeah.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: What lie? It's a really long story. Wait. You remember
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the football player that was catfished many years ago? Notre Dame. Yeah,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: it's another story. But if you know, you know. You
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? That's a forgivable lie. It's so forgivable.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I felt bad when I watched that documentary. I was like, wow,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: we really went too far. Because he was a kid. Oh, yeah.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And he was in a bad situation. And he was
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: lied to. He was completely manipulated. And he didn't know
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: what to do. And like, did he lie? Yeah, he did.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: What other choice did he have? He was just going
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to come out and say that he's been catfished by
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: this psychopath who manipulated him when he was away from
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: his family and told him that his girlfriend had died
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: two days after his grandmother or whatever it was. I'm okay.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: He lied, man. Okay. Forgiven. This was a college kid
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: who was in the middle of... a Heisman run the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: entire world. Yeah. Um, was it right that he lied? No.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Do I give a fuck that he lied now knowing
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the whole story? Absolutely not. This is tough. I'm not
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: advocating for lying. Don't lie.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: We're definitely not. Don't lie.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: But, like, I forgave that lie.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I'd be on Aiden about lying.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Kids cannot lie.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Because they... When kids lie.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: You have to beat their ass.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Because it starts young.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: There's a fine line between imaginative play and you told
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: a lie.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: No.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And they will get... It can end bad.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Kids have to suffer consequences when they lie. And I
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: mean that very seriously. Because that can cause real problems.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: And that is an unfixable trait when they get older.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: And they will lie about some shit that will have
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: real consequences.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been nipping that shit in the butt. We
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: ain't doing that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We ain't doing that lying shit.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: We're playing a game.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I won't be around a lying kid.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: You got one time I said, what did you say? Oh, no.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: They can't be around me.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: He told his first lie.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: That one's rotten.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Second day of first grade.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: He failed that one.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: He said, mommy. We got a problem at school. Mine
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: was just the second day of first grade.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I said, what? Jay, what happened?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: What's the problem? He said, in the bathroom. My heart dropped.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, fuck.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: He's like, I was in the bathroom.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Spider. It's this big.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: It was a tarantula. Telling me this whole labrador. I said, Aiden,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: there was no tarantula in the bathroom. You're making that up. No. Aiden,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: you're telling a lie. This is a lie. You're It's
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: not a story. You're lying to mommy right now. We're
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: not playing a game. This didn't happen. Okay, well, I
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: saw on YouTube. Well, but that didn't happen to you. Yeah,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I'm nipping that shit in the bud.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't do that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: We can't do that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Can't have a nephew out here lying.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: No.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. What is our personally would you rather today?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: This is a good one. It's a little different. Would
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: you rather get one million today, cash, Non-tax? We'll go non-tax.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Cool million.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Or go back to 18 years old with everything you
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: know now. 18. I think I'm doing that because now
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I know how to make a million.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I know how to make a billion.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: A variety of ways.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I know how to make a trillion. Of course I'm
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: going back to 18.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I'm going 18 too.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Now to be clear, I do not want to be
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: 18 again. So like if the universe has some weird
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: time travel tricky thing, I don't want to do that.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I wish I was 18 and in this day of
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: social media, I would Do you know how rich.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I would be? No, I would be very, very, I
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: would be in a lot of trouble. I was an asshole.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I was a very bad 18-year-old.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Rich as hell, asshole.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But if I were to go back
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and exercise all of, like, I don't want to be
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: 18 today. I don't want to do that. If I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: went back to 18 with all the knowledge I have now,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I would choose that over a million dollars for sure.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. Cause I literally would know how to be,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: to become a trillionaire. I would know how to do that,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: but I would not want to be 18 today. No,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: thank you. No, I grew up in the perfect, like joy.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Taylor was born on the exact fucking day in the
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: timeline of planet earth that she was supposed to be created.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Like not a day sooner or after that. I have
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: existed in the exact space I was supposed to. I
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: would have been burned at the stake in any other
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: version of time. And there's just no way. Like, the
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: lack of social media, the partying, the friends and experiences
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: that I had, just being young, wild, free, you know,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: unpaid internships, fucking Red Bull vodkas, like... Dirt, weed, cheddar bob. Like,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I had a perfect life. Like, I would not ever
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: want to be 18 today. Absolutely not. I got to
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: be 12 and ugly.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: But what if when you went back?
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Do you know how incredible that is? Like, when you
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: become a young woman today, you are immediately supposed to
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: look like fucking Kylie Jenner. Oh, my God.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: My middle school years?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't have to be cute until, like, 16-ish. Like,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: it didn't matter. I put my hair in a ponytail
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and gel and I was 95 pounds. Like, yeah, we
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: looked a fucking mess.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: A mess.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: And no, it didn't matter. I didn't have to post
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: on Instagram or Snapchat or fucking... TikTok. I wasn't doing
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: TikTok dances in the hallway. I was getting little notes
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: that we folded up with hearts on them. Oh my God.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: And like, did you ever have a notebook with your friends?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was cheating on Spanish tests, which I regret now.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I cheated all the time on tests.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Like what?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I had great fun.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: You know, people doing my math homework.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Don't regret that.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: My high school years.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't, I don't know. I really feel bad
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: for young people. They do not know what it's like
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: to just be free, to not have to check in,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to not have to have your location on, to just
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: go and sit on a stoop somewhere with a couple
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: friends in the summer and fucking drink a 40. Like,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: they don't know anything about that life. Like, they don't.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I used to walk, like, literally across the entire city
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. I don't know how
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: the fuck I walked. Walked everywhere.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Everywhere.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure that, you know, there were scary people then, but, like, it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Of course there were scary people, but that's just what
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, I don't know. The answer to the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: question is I would go back to 18 with all
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the knowledge I had today. But I would go back
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: to that time at 18. I don't want to be
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: 18 today with the knowledge I have today. That does
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: me no good.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: What are you thinking?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: That is not happening. I'll probably go back to 18.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: You're going back?
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Unless in a million is nice, but... I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: wish I could relive it. I would make so much more. Yeah,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I wish I could dunk again.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I actually wish I had more photos.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I used to be able to dunk, yeah.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: That's why you want to go back so you could dunk?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: These knees. These knees. These knees. I've never been able
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: to dunk. Big reveal. And dunk a donut. And dunk
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: a donut.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Life won't be the same.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: It won't. And no, thank you. I haven't... On the
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: cusp of 40 and I have made decisions that have
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: sculpted a very colorful mosaic of life. And I've got
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: great stories and horrific stories and funny stories and sad
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: stories and happy stories. And the important part is that
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I have stories. And I would not want to have
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: all of those stories documented on the internet for me
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: to revisit. I like them in my memes. That's where
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: they shall stay. Right. And, of course, on Too Personal,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: but we won't put names and faces to everything. Not yet. Anyway,
• 39:13
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