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Congress Names Epstein’s 'Filthy 14' (Part 3) (9/3/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
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  Speaker 1: left off with Jeffrey Epstein and the Filthy Fourteen. Jean-Luc
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  Speaker 1: Brunel requires far less imagination because his place beside Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was visible for years. Brunel was a major modeling figure
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  Speaker 1: whose relationship with Epstein merged money, modeling, travel, and access
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  Speaker 1: to young women. Epstein helped finance MC2 Model Management Brunel
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  Speaker 1: had the professional infrastructure to find aspiring models across countries
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  Speaker 1: and bring them into elite circles. Allegations of sexual misconduct
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  Speaker 1: against Brunel stretched back years before the Epstein scandal finally
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  Speaker 1: consumed them. Women accused him of rape and sexual abuse.
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  Speaker 1: Virginia accused Brunel of being deeply involved in Epstein's procurement
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  Speaker 1: of girls. Brunel denied wrongdoing. French authorities eventually placed him
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  Speaker 1: under formal investigation and arrested him. He died in a
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  Speaker 1: Paris jail before the criminal process could reach trial. The
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  Speaker 1: modeling connection makes Brunel one of the most disturbing people
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  Speaker 1: in the entire Epstein story. Modeling is built around young
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  Speaker 1: people being told that one introduction can change their lives.
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  Speaker 1: A scout can change their lives. A photographer can change
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  Speaker 1: their lives. A wealthy patron can change their lives. A
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  Speaker 1: trip to New York or Paris can change their lives.
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  Speaker 1: Put Jeffrey Epstein inside that machinery... and that danger becomes obvious.
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  Speaker 1: He could offer exactly the mixture of money, glamour, travel,
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  Speaker 1: and connections that made skeptical questions feel like obstacles to opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Brunel helped make that world available to him. And American
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  Speaker 1: authorities had years to understand it. They knew Epstein's appetite
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  Speaker 1: for young women. They knew modeling repeatedly appeared around them.
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  Speaker 1: They knew Brunel. They knew MC Squared. They knew allegations
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  Speaker 1: were being made. Yet the process moved with the urgency
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  Speaker 1: of a DMV line, until French authorities eventually took Brunel
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  Speaker 1: into custody. But then, years had been wasted. Then, Brunel died.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever answers he might have been forced to provide in court, well,
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  Speaker 1: those died with him. Now, Daniel Syed may be one
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  Speaker 1: of the most enraging names on Massey's entire list, because
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  Speaker 1: the released communications remove much of the mystery about what
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  Speaker 1: he actually did. Syed was a model scout who communicated
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  Speaker 1: with Epstein for more than a decade. His name appears
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  Speaker 1: across an enormous number of released records. He sent Epstein
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  Speaker 1: information about young women and teenage girls. He described their
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  Speaker 1: ages and nationalities. He discussed photographs and arranged introductions. He
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  Speaker 1: continued dealing with Epstein after the 2008 conviction. Epstein paid
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  Speaker 1: him tens of thousands of dollars, according to reporting on
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  Speaker 1: the released records. Syed... nevertheless maintained that his work with
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  Speaker 1: Epstein was strictly professional. Now, that explanation would be easier
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  Speaker 1: to stomach if the results had not been so ugly.
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  Speaker 1: CNN identified two women Syed introduced to Epstein who later
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  Speaker 1: said that Epstein abused them. Syed told CNN that nobody
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  Speaker 1: introduced had ever returned to tell him about how bad
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  Speaker 1: the experience was. Now, think about how inadequate that answer is.
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  Speaker 1: This son of a bitch was sending young women toward Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein was already a convicted sex offender. Syed says nobody
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  Speaker 1: came back and complained. Well, so apparently that ended his
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  Speaker 1: responsibility to wonder what happened after the introduction. What was
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  Speaker 1: this douche expecting? A customer satisfaction survey? Young women who
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  Speaker 1: have just been exploited? They don't always return to the
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  Speaker 1: man who introduced them and file a formal complaint. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that should be required advanced training in human
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  Speaker 1: behavior to understand. Syed also claimed that he believed Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was connected to casting for Victoria's Secret and modeling opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: CNN reported that it found no evidence supporting the notion
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  Speaker 1: that Epstein actually held the casting role Syed described. So,
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  Speaker 1: we're left with a grown man who spent years in
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  Speaker 1: the modeling business, believing Jeffrey Epstein was a legitimate gateway
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  Speaker 1: to modeling success, even after Epstein's criminal conviction? That explanation
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  Speaker 1: is almost insulting in its convenience. Syed knew how the
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  Speaker 1: industry worked. He knew what legitimate casting looked like. He
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  Speaker 1: knew what model representation looked like. He knew Epstein somehow
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  Speaker 1: continued receiving girls and young women through him. French investigators
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  Speaker 1: eventually began examining Syed. Then, in July 2026, he was
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  Speaker 1: found dead at his home near Paris before investigators could
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  Speaker 1: obtain all the answers that they wanted. Now, Ramsey El-Kholi's
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  Speaker 1: emails are perhaps even more revolting because they show the
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  Speaker 1: casual language with which women could be discussed around Epstein. L.
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  Speaker 1: Coley worked as a modeling agent and maintained extensive correspondence
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  Speaker 1: with Epstein beginning around 2009. Now, that date should immediately
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  Speaker 1: make the blood boil. Epstein had already been convicted. L. Coley, nevertheless,
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  Speaker 1: talked with him about models and potential introductions. In one email,
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  Speaker 1: he told Epstein that 23 was on the old side
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  Speaker 1: for him. In another exchange, he discussed ways of getting
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  Speaker 1: a shy model into lingerie. He offered to keep Epstein
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  Speaker 1: in mind while scouting abroad. We're not talking about somebody
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  Speaker 1: accidentally sending Epstein a Christmas card. Alcoly has said in
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  Speaker 1: his crude language that it was exaggeration designed to impress
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and that he did nothing illegal. He said the
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  Speaker 1: women he introduced were adults and that Epstein never paid them.
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  Speaker 1: He's also explained that he hoped Epstein's connections could help
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  Speaker 1: his models land lucrative work which would benefit their careers
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  Speaker 1: and his commissions. There it is, in plain English, usefulness.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein had something Alcoly wanted. Alcoly had access to something
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  Speaker 1: Epstein wanted. They communicated about women, while both understood the
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  Speaker 1: favors could move in both directions. Alcoly even wrote to
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  Speaker 1: Epstein about introducing models as favors, because Epstein was also
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  Speaker 1: good for favors. Calling all of that mere bad language
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  Speaker 1: does not make the underlying arrangement any less repulsive. The
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  Speaker 1: Washington Post found more than 100 emails spanning roughly a
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  Speaker 1: decade and reported discussions involving potential meetings with at least
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  Speaker 1: two dozen women. El-Kholi told the newspaper that some meetings
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  Speaker 1: never occurred. He also admitted fabricating certain claims in emails
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  Speaker 1: when confronted with contradictions. That does not exactly inspire confidence
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  Speaker 1: in the rest of the explanations. One model previously reported
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  Speaker 1: that El-Kholi introduced her to Epstein before Epstein sexually exploited her.
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  Speaker 1: Al Coley has disputed responsibility for what later happened between
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and the woman that he introduced. But the moral
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  Speaker 1: problem is not complicated. If you're putting young women in
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  Speaker 1: front of Jeffrey Epstein after his conviction because you think
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  Speaker 1: he can do favors for you, you've already made a
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  Speaker 1: disgusting calculation. Whether that calculation crossed a criminal line is
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  Speaker 1: precisely what investigators should determine. Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, the Joe
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  Speaker 1: Exotic of the Windsor family, needs no introduction because his
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  Speaker 1: Epstein relationship has already destroyed what remained of his public standing.
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  Speaker 1: Virginia accused him of sexually abusing her when she was 17,
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  Speaker 1: after she was allegedly trafficked to him by Epstein and Maxwell.
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  Speaker 1: She described encounters in London, New York, and the Virgin Islands.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew denied her allegations. She sued his bitch ass in
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  Speaker 1: federal court. He fought the case for a minute, then
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  Speaker 1: he settled it before trial. No admission of liability came
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  Speaker 1: with the settlement, but neither did the courtroom showdown he
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  Speaker 1: had spent years suggesting would vindicate him. Andrew's BBC Newsnight
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  Speaker 1: interview remains one of the most catastrophic attempts at self-exoneration
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  Speaker 1: ever committed on television. He tried to explain why he
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  Speaker 1: stayed at Epstein's Manhattan mansion after Epstein was already a
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  Speaker 1: convicted sex offender. He talked about ending the friendship in person,
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  Speaker 1: because he was supposedly doing the honorable thing. He talked
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  Speaker 1: about Pizza Express. He talked about his inability to sweat.
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  Speaker 1: He produced explanations that sounded less like answers than something
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  Speaker 1: assembled during a fever dream at Buckingham Palace. The arrogance
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  Speaker 1: beneath it was breathtaking. Andrew seemed genuinely unable to understand
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  Speaker 1: why ordinary people, me and you, found his continuing relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Epstein appalling. That blindness told the public plenty, even
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  Speaker 1: if it answered nothing about the allegations themselves. Then, of course,
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  Speaker 1: there was Andrew's supposedly enthusiastic willingness to help law enforcement. Publicly,
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  Speaker 1: he presented himself as willing to cooperate with the appropriate authorities.
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  Speaker 1: Federal prosecutors later complained that meaningful cooperation had not materialized
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  Speaker 1: in the manner that they saw it. Andrew's legal team
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  Speaker 1: pushed back against those claims. Years of procedural and diplomatic
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  Speaker 1: noise followed. And that is exactly the shit people are
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  Speaker 1: sick of. If a former prince possesses information relevant to
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  Speaker 1: an American sex trafficking investigation, investigators should get the answers
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  Speaker 1: through every lawful avenue available. The palace doesn't get special
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  Speaker 1: evidentiary code. Now, Massey went on further on the House
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  Speaker 1: floor and directly accused Andrew of committing sex crimes in
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  Speaker 1: the United States. That is an extraordinary accusation for a
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  Speaker 1: congressman to make in Congress. It places more pressure on
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  Speaker 1: the Justice Department to explain what it's done with the
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  Speaker 1: allegations involving New York and the Virgin Islands. Roberts is
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  Speaker 1: now dead. Epstein, dead. Years have disappeared. Andrew has spent
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  Speaker 1: much of that time protected by wealth, royal machinery, lawyers,
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  Speaker 1: and geographic distance. The least the government can do is
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  Speaker 1: demonstrate that it treated the allegations with the seriousness it
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  Speaker 1: would have shown if the accused man had been Andrew
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  Speaker 1: Smith from Queens instead of the son of the Queen.
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  Speaker 1: Anything less reeks. Then, of course, we have Leslie Groff.
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  Speaker 1: And she may be the person on Massey's list whose
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  Speaker 1: claim of ignorance is hardest to hear without becoming pissed off.
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  Speaker 1: Groff worked as Epstein's executive secretary for roughly 18 years.
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  Speaker 1: She handled scheduling. She handled calls. She handled travel coordination.
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  Speaker 1: She circulated calendars. She dealt with appointments. She occupied a
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  Speaker 1: position that touched the daily mechanics of Epstein's existence and
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  Speaker 1: for more than two decades. Yet when Groff testified before
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  Speaker 1: Congress in 2026, she insisted that Epstein successfully kept his
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  Speaker 1: abusive life hidden from her. Groff told lawmakers that she
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  Speaker 1: scheduled massage appointments but understood them as ordinary massages. She
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  Speaker 1: said she didn't meet the girls and women coming to
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  Speaker 1: provide them in the way survivors later described. Several survivors
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  Speaker 1: responded publicly with outrage. Marina Lacerda, who says she entered
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's world when she was 13 or 14, directly contradicted
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  Speaker 1: the picture Groff painted. Survivors said Groff was someone through
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  Speaker 1: whom access to Epstein could run. They described questions about age, appearance, schooling,
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  Speaker 1: and other details. Groff denied knowingly facilitating abuse. But after
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  Speaker 1: 18 years of managing details around Jeffrey Epstein, he kept
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  Speaker 1: that part from me begins to sound less like an
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  Speaker 1: explanation and more like something begging to be dismantled under oath.
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  Speaker 1: And Congress finally started doing that. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 1: there is the non-prosecution agreement. Groff was one of the
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  Speaker 1: people explicitly protected in the notorious federal deal that resolved
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's original Florida exposure. That alone makes the history of
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  Speaker 1: what prosecutors knew about her critically important. Why was she named?
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  Speaker 1: What evidence existed? What theory were prosecutors considering? What interviews
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  Speaker 1: had been conducted? What conduct did investigators believe potentially required
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  Speaker 1: immunity from prosecution? The public should have received clear answers
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  Speaker 1: to those questions years ago. Instead, one of the people,
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  Speaker 1: protected by perhaps the most infamous prosecutorial deal in the
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  Speaker 1: entire Epstein saga, spent nearly two decades without having to
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  Speaker 1: publicly explain the details of her work until Congress came calling?
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  Speaker 1: Massey's decision to put these 14 names into the congressional
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  Speaker 1: record It's not powerful because it gives the public another
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  Speaker 1: list to obsess over. We've had enough lists. It's powerful
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  Speaker 1: because many of these names are attached to specific transactions,
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  Speaker 1: specific emails, specific allegations, introductions, jobs, appointments, testimony, or investigative documents.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where the pressure belongs. Jess Daly should be
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  Speaker 1: examined through the thousands of communications, the bank records, the visits,
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  Speaker 1: and his own testimony. Leon Black should be examined through
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  Speaker 1: the staggering money trail and every service Epstein allegedly performed.
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  Speaker 1: Les Wexner should be examined through the extraordinary authority Epstein
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  Speaker 1: obtained over his financial life. The modeling figures should be
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  Speaker 1: examined through the women they sent toward Epstein. Employees should
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  Speaker 1: be examined through what they scheduled, saw, heard, and arranged.
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  Speaker 1: And what makes this entire thing so sickening is the
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  Speaker 1: endless parade of brilliant people becoming idiots the moment Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein enters the sentence. Wall Street titans who can identify
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  Speaker 1: a financial risk halfway around the planet apparently could not
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  Speaker 1: identify the risk sitting across the dinner table. Modeling professionals
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  Speaker 1: who understood exactly how vulnerable young women could be inside
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  Speaker 1: their industry supposedly never wondered why Epstein constantly wanted introductions.
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  Speaker 1: Employees who organized the smallest details of his existence somehow
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  Speaker 1: allegedly missed the central fact of that existence. Social friends
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  Speaker 1: continued visiting after a sex offense conviction because apparently that
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  Speaker 1: was not enough information to spoil their dinner. Royalty needed
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  Speaker 1: several days at the Manhattan mansion to end a friendship.
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  Speaker 1: Billionaires needed Jeffrey Epstein to perform financial work worth more
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  Speaker 1: than most people could spend in ten fucking lifetimes. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: has an answer, and somehow none of the answers ever
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  Speaker 1: seem to include basic human curiosity. And that's why I
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  Speaker 1: have so much contempt. Not because every person Massey named
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  Speaker 1: has been convicted of an Epstein-related crime, but because the
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  Speaker 1: collective performance of helplessness has become intolerable. These weren't powerless people.
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  Speaker 1: These were people accustomed to controlling companies, fortunes, schedules, careers,
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  Speaker 1: social circles, staff. and entire fucking institutions. They knew how
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  Speaker 1: to conduct due diligence when their money was at risk.
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  Speaker 1: They knew how to investigate employees before handing them responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: They knew how to hire private investigators when litigation threatened them.
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  Speaker 1: They knew how to protect themselves. Yet when young women
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  Speaker 1: were the ones carrying the risk, ignorance suddenly became fashionable.
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein could only remain useful after 2008 because people
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  Speaker 1: continued finding uses for him. His phone still rang. His
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  Speaker 1: homes still received guests. His emails still received replies. His
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  Speaker 1: introductions still had value. His advice was still sought. His
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  Speaker 1: social circle did not instantly collapse. Young women were still
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  Speaker 1: being discussed and introduced around him. The registered sex offender
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  Speaker 1: remained welcomed because apparently the benefits of knowing Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: outweigh the moral cost of being seen with Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: The Justice Department now has an opportunity to stop insulting everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Massey has named the people he believes warrant investigation. Congress
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  Speaker 1: has collected testimony. Millions of pages have emerged. Survivors have
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  Speaker 1: contradicted witnesses. Financial transactions have been exposed. Emails have revealed
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  Speaker 1: relationships that were previously minimized. Old FBI memoranda have surfaced.
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  Speaker 1: The government does not need another committee to determine whether
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  Speaker 1: questions exist. The questions are sitting in front of his face.
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  Speaker 1: Investigate the filthy 14 names with the same aggression that
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  Speaker 1: would be applied to 14 broke defendants in a drug conspiracy.
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  Speaker 1: Follow the money without caring whose art collection, bank, corporation,
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  Speaker 1: or family office appears at the other end. Follow the
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  Speaker 1: communications without caring whether the recipient is a former prince
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  Speaker 1: or an unknown modeling scout. Follow the women and determine
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  Speaker 1: who introduced them Why they were introduced and what happened afterward.
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  Speaker 1: Reconcile survivor testimony with calendars and travel records. Reconcile congressional
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  Speaker 1: testimony with emails. Reconcile professed ignorance with documented proximity. Put
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  Speaker 1: witnesses back under oath when the documents contradict them. And
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  Speaker 1: stop treating wealth as a reason to become delicate. Because
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  Speaker 1: that's what's been missing from the Epstein investigation from the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Institutional aggression directed upward. The authorities showed plenty of power
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  Speaker 1: when dealing with young women, employees, record requests, secrecy fights,
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  Speaker 1: and the public. Somehow that same confidence frequently evaporated when billionaires, royalty,
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  Speaker 1: major banks, influential attorneys, and internationally connected businessmen entered the picture.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody becomes cautious. Everybody worries about evidentiary nuance. Everybody suddenly
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  Speaker 1: discovers patience. 20 years later, the patience looks a lot
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  Speaker 1: like surrender. and the people who paid the price for
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  Speaker 1: that surrender were never the people sitting in penthouses. And
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  Speaker 1: Thomas Massey finally put 14 names where they could not
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  Speaker 1: quietly disappear into another 3 million page document dump. Now
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  Speaker 1: the burden moves to the Department of Justice. Jess Staley
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  Speaker 1: deserves questions that match the depth of his relationship with Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: Black deserves questions that match the size of his money.
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  Speaker 1: Les Wexner deserves questions that match the extraordinary authority He
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  Speaker 1: wants placed in Epstein's hands. Copperfield deserves questions that match
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  Speaker 1: what the FBI itself was examining. The modeling figures deserve
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  Speaker 1: questions that match the women they allegedly placed in Epstein's path.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew's bitch ass deserves questions that match Virginia's allegations. And
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  Speaker 1: Groff deserves questions that match 18 years spent helping run
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's life. and none of them deserve worshipful treatment because
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  Speaker 1: they're rich, famous, connected, accomplished, royal, or surrounded by expensive attorneys.
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  Speaker 1: Their resumes do not answer questions, their wealth doesn't erase emails,
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  Speaker 1: their reputations don't cancel testimony, denials don't destroy documents, and
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  Speaker 1: their embarrassment is not more important than the truth. Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein relied on a world where status caused other people
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  Speaker 1: to lower their voices, and that habit needs to die
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  Speaker 1: with him. Ask those questions loudly. Pursue those answers mercilessly
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  Speaker 1: and let the evidence decide what comes next. After decades
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  Speaker 1: of excuses, anything less would be another act of contempt
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  Speaker 1: against the people who have already waited far too long.
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