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O'Brien & Doug Ep139 [February 23, 2023 Didgeridoo & Dobro Too] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_08: Hello, then it's episode 139.
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SPEAKER_08: It's crazy.
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SPEAKER_08: Crazy.
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SPEAKER_08: We're still going after the setting episodes.
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SPEAKER_09: Pretty sure that's how the song goes.
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SPEAKER_05: I think I started recording halfway through crazy, so nobody knows what we were singing.
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SPEAKER_05: What are they doing now?
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SPEAKER_05: Hello, children.
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SPEAKER_05: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by Mosher Multimedia.com.
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SPEAKER_05: Km H music in Prescott Maine.
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SPEAKER_05: The Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine.
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SPEAKER_08: And my cousin.
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SPEAKER_08: We are so happy.
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SPEAKER_08: We do the dance of jokes.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's nice you laughing.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: You see, my mule don't like people laughing.
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SPEAKER_00: It's the crazy idea you're laughing at him.
0:58
SPEAKER_00: Now, if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.
1:21
SPEAKER_07: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
1:23
SPEAKER_07: I'm O'Brien.
1:24
SPEAKER_09: I'm Doug.
1:24
SPEAKER_09: Hey.
1:25
SPEAKER_09: Hello.
1:25
SPEAKER_09: What's happening?
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SPEAKER_09: Not much.
1:26
SPEAKER_09: Like all my pedals?
1:27
SPEAKER_09: I'm about to say it looks like a uh pedal board exploded.
1:31
SPEAKER_09: Several pedalboards exploded.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes, I tore it apart again and and I'm trying to find I'm chasing tone, Doug.
1:39
SPEAKER_05: Like the book.
1:40
SPEAKER_05: Like the book you got me.
1:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:41
SPEAKER_05: I'm a tone chaser.
1:42
SPEAKER_05: I'm I'm just trying to get it so that it I can get what I want easily, it can quickly.
1:48
SPEAKER_05: And well, like the Rolling Stone said, you can't always get what you want.
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SPEAKER_05: This is true.
1:53
SPEAKER_05: So if that were true, I would have probably two or three more pedal boards.
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SPEAKER_09: We'd have we'd have several.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: You'd have a you'd have a pedal board for every guitar.
2:03
SPEAKER_05: Hey, that's a neat goal.
2:06
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:07
SPEAKER_05: Speaking of guitars, I know you know this, but I shouldn't make this announcement.
2:12
SPEAKER_05: I did finally uh bite the bullet and I'm I got a new guitar.
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SPEAKER_05: Hold the trigger on a new guitar.
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SPEAKER_05: I got a new guitar coming.
2:18
SPEAKER_05: Um and it was a pain.
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SPEAKER_05: I didn't realize it was gonna be such a hard process.
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SPEAKER_05: And and Chris Morton at KMH Music is just, I'm sure he's just sick to death of me.
2:28
SPEAKER_05: Because I would send him links like late at night.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's what he wants.
2:34
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
2:34
SPEAKER_05: So I was like, uh, can you get this one?
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SPEAKER_05: Uh oh, never mind.
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SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, how about this one?
2:39
SPEAKER_05: And he'd be like, honestly, dude, I can I can get those.
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SPEAKER_05: Yep.
2:42
SPEAKER_05: You know, just take your time.
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SPEAKER_09: He was like, he was like one button away from blocking you.
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SPEAKER_09: That's what it was.
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SPEAKER_09: Then I would send him a question.
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SPEAKER_05: So is uh do you know if a regal is a good uh brand of Dobro?
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SPEAKER_05: Because I'm like, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_05: Do I want to do I want a Dobro?
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_05: I want to I want to resonate.
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SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_09: I don't know I have a didgeridoo.
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SPEAKER_09: Why don't you have a Dobro?
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SPEAKER_09: It's Dobro and Digeridoo.
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SPEAKER_06: That's the name of the episode.
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SPEAKER_06: That's the name of the episode.
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SPEAKER_06: Dobro and Dingeridoo.
3:20
SPEAKER_05: So no, I was gonna get a Les Paul.
3:22
SPEAKER_05: Right.
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SPEAKER_05: Because I didn't have a Les Paul.
3:24
SPEAKER_05: That's true.
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SPEAKER_05: And you've never had a Les Paul.
3:26
SPEAKER_05: I've never had a Les Paul.
3:27
SPEAKER_05: I've always wanted one just to say that I have one, because I had a strat and I have a telly.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh I have a EVH Wolfgang just because it's EVH.
3:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: And I play that every once in a while.
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SPEAKER_05: I've never played it out that way.
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SPEAKER_05: Sure, you never have.
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SPEAKER_05: Never played with a Wolfgang out.
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SPEAKER_05: Not saying I won't, but um, and I have this uh this kind of off-brand strat, which works fine.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: I like the colors very 60s.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so I had sold my other strat um because it was there was nothing wrong with it.
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SPEAKER_05: I just wanted something else.
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SPEAKER_05: Sure.
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SPEAKER_05: So I sold that and I said I'm gonna get a new guitar.
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SPEAKER_05: And wouldn't you know I got another strat.
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SPEAKER_05: Because I'm just I'm a fender guy.
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SPEAKER_05: I think why not, man?
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SPEAKER_05: So whatever, you know, whatever makes you comfortable, right?
4:12
SPEAKER_05: So um uh and I'm a bluesy player, so I got my I got me a strat coming, so I'm pretty pumped about it.
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SPEAKER_09: Nice.
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SPEAKER_09: So that's I was watching the uh Man with No Name trilogy over the weekend.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh Kelly Eastwood Westerns.
4:25
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, yeah, okay.
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SPEAKER_09: Fistful of dollars, a few dollars more, and good, bad, and yuggly.
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SPEAKER_09: Right.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh the guy that did the music for all those, yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: He used a strat that got all the guitar parts.
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SPEAKER_05: Is it Rye Cooter?
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SPEAKER_05: Who was it?
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SPEAKER_05: Do you know?
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SPEAKER_09: No, it's some Italian guy.
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SPEAKER_09: So how do you know it was a strat?
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SPEAKER_09: Because that's what they said it was.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, like in the little in between.
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SPEAKER_05: In the soundtrack.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: Well, I was watching I was watching it with commentary.
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SPEAKER_09: Right.
4:47
SPEAKER_09: Oh, cool.
4:48
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
4:48
SPEAKER_09: So, you know, he was like, Oh yeah, he's you know, it was the first time uh electric guitar was used in a movie soundtrack.
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SPEAKER_09: I was like, oh.
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SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
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SPEAKER_09: He was like, he was like, it's a rock and roll soundtrack.
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SPEAKER_09: I'm like, eh, that's a little heavy handed.
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SPEAKER_09: But you know, it was a strat he was he was very emphatic in in in stressing that it we a Stratocaster was used.
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SPEAKER_09: Interesting.
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SPEAKER_09: In uh in those all three, all three movies, the soundtrack, there's a stratoca.
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SPEAKER_09: Well, I'm curious now just because uh his name is NCO Oh Ennio Moracone?
5:16
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, Ennio.
5:16
SPEAKER_09: Ennio Moracone.
5:18
SPEAKER_05: Oh well, Metallica did uh X.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: So uh I didn't realize that uh that was uh a strat.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
5:28
SPEAKER_09: That's pretty cool.
5:29
SPEAKER_09: Uh so what else is going on?
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SPEAKER_09: So we'll it's the high holidays for the biggest religion in northern Maine.
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SPEAKER_05: High school basketball, yes.
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SPEAKER_05: And it's you're not gonna be.
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SPEAKER_09: Everybody's made the pilgrimage to the big temples to offer their sacrifices and offerings to the false god MPA.
5:47
SPEAKER_09: You're not kidding.
5:49
SPEAKER_09: I mean ball.
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SPEAKER_09: Perfect example.
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SPEAKER_05: Last Friday, the the Boys Varsity was supposed to play uh that night, and uh it was a snow day.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: So the policy is if there's a snow day, not supposed to be any all after school activities and whatever are canceled.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, they can't because it's turn it's in Bangor and it's like the main principal's association.
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SPEAKER_09: School wasn't canceled in Bangor.
6:16
SPEAKER_09: True.
6:16
SPEAKER_09: So that's probably the the loophole.
6:19
SPEAKER_05: So check this out.
6:20
SPEAKER_05: So so we had to drive in like just blustery, crappy conditions.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh in a snowstorm to get to the tournament.
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SPEAKER_05: And so t m tomorrow, they were recording this on Tuesday, so they made they won the game on Friday, and so they advanced, so they're playing tomorrow down in Bangor.
6:42
SPEAKER_05: Um but Southern Maine, it's supposed to get like three inches.
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SPEAKER_05: So they've moved our game back.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh, is that why they did that?
6:51
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, noontime now.
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SPEAKER_05: And they canceled uh they canceled games on Thursday.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh last uh they canceled games on last Thursday down state or something like that, because they were getting snow.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh, but they can't they made us drive all the way down in the snowstorm.
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SPEAKER_09: Go figure.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: That's because it's the other main.
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SPEAKER_09: Right.
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SPEAKER_05: They don't care about this main.
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SPEAKER_05: If there's any ever ever any evidence needed, I mean that's a perfect example.
7:17
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
7:18
SPEAKER_05: Of course it is, man.
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SPEAKER_05: There's always been two mains and there always will be.
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SPEAKER_05: Always will be two main.
7:21
SPEAKER_05: Well, you know, Bangor is considered northern Maine.
7:23
SPEAKER_05: Did you know that?
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I've always they've always said Bangor's a northern main.
7:28
SPEAKER_09: I'm like, nah, it's more central, dude.
7:30
SPEAKER_05: Well, you know, they they changed I don't remember how many years ago.
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SPEAKER_09: I mean, as far as city's concerned, it's not it's a city, but it's nothing like it's not like Portland.
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SPEAKER_05: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_05: You know I don't know how many years ago it was, but they changed used to be Eastern Maine basketball.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
7:47
SPEAKER_05: It's not anymore.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know if you're not going to be able to do it.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, what's it now?
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SPEAKER_05: It's northern Maine something.
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SPEAKER_05: The Northern Maine tournament.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
7:54
SPEAKER_05: Uh which includes Bangor and all these other towns down on the Northern Maine too.
8:00
SPEAKER_05: Right, exactly.
8:01
SPEAKER_08: You guys suck too.
8:03
SPEAKER_05: Makes no sense to me whatsoever.
8:04
SPEAKER_05: But whatever.
8:05
SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_09: It is silly.
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SPEAKER_09: It's just so many.
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SPEAKER_09: I mean, people just take it way too seriously.
8:14
SPEAKER_09: Well, you know, it's silly.
8:15
SPEAKER_09: And I mean, I mean, I you know, I I mean I don't have kids.
8:18
SPEAKER_04: Right.
8:18
SPEAKER_09: But ATLC kids have invited me to everything over the years.
8:23
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
8:23
SPEAKER_09: I've been to basketball games, football games, baseball, softball, pageants, swim meets, chess.
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SPEAKER_09: I went to a chess tournament once.
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SPEAKER_09: It was crazy.
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SPEAKER_09: Nice.
8:33
SPEAKER_09: But it's I don't know.
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SPEAKER_09: It's it's not the kids, because the kids are doing their thing.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
8:39
SPEAKER_09: It's the parents.
8:40
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah.
8:42
SPEAKER_09: They are they can be the most ignorant bunch of people.
8:46
SPEAKER_09: They're probably like super nice outside, but when their kids are involved, they become the most ignorant people on the planet.
8:52
SPEAKER_05: Well, that's the to a large degree, that's true.
8:55
SPEAKER_05: I I um I am one of those parents.
8:58
SPEAKER_05: I'm not one of those parents.
8:59
SPEAKER_09: I was talking about you.
9:02
SPEAKER_05: No, what I noticed, one thing I noticed that's different, is uh the basketball parents and the hockey parents.
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SPEAKER_05: So, because hockey is also a religion.
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SPEAKER_09: Um Yeah, it's it's more of a sect.
9:17
SPEAKER_09: Right.
9:17
SPEAKER_09: You know, it's a breakaway.
9:18
SPEAKER_05: Right.
9:19
SPEAKER_05: So we went to the hockey game last night.
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SPEAKER_05: It was a it was a senior night, so we figured we'd support the seniors and we'll go.
9:24
SPEAKER_05: So we went to the hockey game, they won.
9:27
SPEAKER_05: But every little you know, we were checking people left and right, but when one of our guys got checked, parents were just livid and just yell at the ref.
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SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, dude, it's hockey.
9:39
SPEAKER_05: It's hot.
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SPEAKER_05: That's what they're supposed to do.
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SPEAKER_05: Sit down.
9:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, it would I it's this is your first time in a hockey game?
9:45
SPEAKER_05: Even my wife and I, you know, because we go to basketball games all the time.
9:49
SPEAKER_05: And yeah, we yell at we don't yell at the refs, but we're like, that was a travel, you know, things like that.
9:54
SPEAKER_05: You know, but even when we were sitting in the hockey game, we're like, holy cow.
9:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, chill.
10:00
SPEAKER_05: Of course, our kids aren't playing the hockey game.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I mean, you don't you're not invested in it.
10:04
SPEAKER_09: Right.
10:04
SPEAKER_09: Like, you know, like the other parents, but I mean, you know, if you're I don't know, it just it just bothers me because it's like I mean, they're not they're not professionals.
10:13
SPEAKER_05: Right.
10:14
SPEAKER_09: And neither are the refs.
10:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and they're and I shouldn't say never, but they're not going to be.
10:19
SPEAKER_09: No.
10:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
10:20
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I mean I hate to say that, but I mean most of these kids are just gonna go to they're probably maybe play something in college, but after that it's pretty much it.
10:28
SPEAKER_05: I do think there is there are good things about competitive sports.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh, no, no doubt.
10:33
SPEAKER_09: I mean teamwork, yeah.
10:34
SPEAKER_09: You learn to, you know, how to win graciously, how to lose graciously.
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SPEAKER_09: You know, they I mean there's life lessons there, but I mean, it's the parents that take it way too seriously.
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SPEAKER_05: They do.
10:45
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
10:46
SPEAKER_09: I mean, just chill.
10:47
SPEAKER_05: You know, and let them have some fun.
10:49
SPEAKER_05: We had there was a girls' team that uh that lost uh the next day.
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SPEAKER_05: And some of their seniors, you know, and and and my wife was one of these because my wife was on the basketball team in high school.
11:00
SPEAKER_05: She never I don't think her team made it to tournament.
11:03
SPEAKER_05: Right.
11:03
SPEAKER_05: And that to this day to this day eats at her.
11:08
SPEAKER_05: Really?
11:09
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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SPEAKER_05: Because it's like the big dance, you know.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, sure, yeah.
11:14
SPEAKER_05: And like so Saturday some of the seniors uh realize that it's the end of their high school basketball career.
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SPEAKER_05: You know, because they're not going to be playing for for the school anymore because they're moving on.
11:25
SPEAKER_05: Right.
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SPEAKER_05: They'll play college, alright.
11:27
SPEAKER_05: But this is this was the dance.
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SPEAKER_05: This was the they made it to to the tournament.
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SPEAKER_05: They didn't win the tournament, but they made it and they're not going any further, and there were tears.
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SPEAKER_05: You know, I'm sure, yeah.
11:36
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's just but me not being an athlete, I mean look at Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: I mean, I we I I wasn't, you know, I d you know, I it's not that I detest basketball, but I just it doesn't interest me that much.
11:50
SPEAKER_05: Right, right.
11:50
SPEAKER_09: Uh you know, but I mean I can enjoy it as a sport.
11:53
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
11:54
SPEAKER_09: You know, I'll go to a game.
11:55
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
11:55
SPEAKER_09: I don't you know, it doesn't bother me, but I'm not I'm not invested in it.
11:59
SPEAKER_05: Right.
11:59
SPEAKER_05: I have to my w I I drive my wife crazy because I know very little about basketball.
12:04
SPEAKER_05: I know more now than I did like four, five, six years ago.
12:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
12:09
SPEAKER_05: You know.
12:09
SPEAKER_05: But I drive her crazy all the time.
12:11
SPEAKER_05: I'd be like, what was that call?
12:14
SPEAKER_05: Oh, that was uh, you know, it was it was backcourt.
12:16
SPEAKER_05: What does that mean?
12:18
SPEAKER_05: You know, it's just to explain things to me.
12:20
SPEAKER_05: So it's you know, I I was front court.
12:22
SPEAKER_05: I know what it is now.
12:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
12:24
SPEAKER_05: But there's a lot of stuff that I I I just don't get.
12:26
SPEAKER_05: And she's like, you know, well they're playing uh they're playing uh zone defense.
12:32
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
12:34
SPEAKER_05: Okay, that means what?
12:36
SPEAKER_05: You know?
12:36
SPEAKER_05: That means you don't have to run.
12:38
SPEAKER_05: Right.
12:39
SPEAKER_05: You just stand in one spot.
12:41
SPEAKER_05: Right.
12:42
SPEAKER_09: So I mean That's about all I know.
12:45
SPEAKER_09: I know that's all I know between the you know, man-to-man and zone.
12:48
SPEAKER_09: Right.
12:48
SPEAKER_09: One you have to run, the other one don't really.
12:50
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, just kind of stay in your zone.
12:52
SPEAKER_05: Stay in your stay in your zone.
12:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
12:56
SPEAKER_05: Nobody's in here.
12:57
SPEAKER_05: Right.
12:58
SPEAKER_05: Uh but you know, like I said, I get I get I sorry.
13:02
SPEAKER_05: Is it still recording?
13:03
SPEAKER_05: It's still I think it is.
13:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
13:06
SPEAKER_08: We always have to double check.
13:07
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it is.
13:08
SPEAKER_05: Um I get I get a lot more now, but I I also feel like an idiot a lot more now, too.
13:14
SPEAKER_09: Well, I I don't know.
13:15
SPEAKER_05: But I enjoy watching my kid play.
13:17
SPEAKER_09: Well, yeah, you're I mean you're invested in it.
13:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
13:19
SPEAKER_05: And I enjoy I enjoy watching you know the team play even when he's not playing.
13:23
SPEAKER_05: So um so it's good.
13:25
SPEAKER_05: And so yeah, there's there's that, and then we have a there's a kind of a uh wrench thrown in our weekend this weekend.
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SPEAKER_05: So so the boys play tomorrow, and if they win, they play on Saturday, right at the time of a special event in our lives.
13:46
SPEAKER_05: Right.
13:47
SPEAKER_05: Uh, which we want to devote a little bit of time to because our little Joko, our little Josh Kovac, is well, he's tying the knot.
14:01
SPEAKER_05: He's getting hitched.
14:02
SPEAKER_05: He's getting hitched.
14:03
SPEAKER_05: We're very happy for he and Allison.
14:06
SPEAKER_05: Um we've never met.
14:07
SPEAKER_05: We've never met, but we will meet her on Saturday.
14:09
SPEAKER_05: I'm sure.
14:10
SPEAKER_05: I hope so.
14:10
SPEAKER_05: So here's the thing.
14:12
SPEAKER_05: So um I've got one kid that has.
14:14
SPEAKER_09: Now what now what if we meet her on Saturday and we don't like her?
14:18
SPEAKER_09: What's gonna happen?
14:19
SPEAKER_09: I know it's not gonna be anything, but I'm gonna be like, we just walk out and be like, hey, uh Jojo, can I talk to you for a second?
14:26
SPEAKER_09: I think this is a bad idea.
14:28
SPEAKER_05: Have you ever seen that that commercial?
14:31
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if it's a commercial or if it's a meme or whatever it is, but this this guy's calling his buddy on the speakerphone and he's like, um, Sarah's no longer my girlfriend.
14:43
SPEAKER_05: She's she's sitting right there.
14:44
SPEAKER_05: Sarah's no longer my girlfriend.
14:45
SPEAKER_03: And the guy goes, Oh, thank God.
14:48
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait.
14:50
SPEAKER_05: We're engaged.
14:51
SPEAKER_05: She's my she's my fiancee now.
14:52
SPEAKER_05: We're just funny.
14:58
SPEAKER_05: I just thought that was funny.
14:59
SPEAKER_05: But yeah, I mean she's lovely.
15:02
SPEAKER_05: We're gonna pull him up pull him aside and say, dude, you know, you got time.
15:05
SPEAKER_05: You can run if you want.
15:06
SPEAKER_09: We can we can create a diversion and uh you can escape.
15:10
SPEAKER_05: Listen, I think because they've been together for a while, yeah, yeah, and she knows his lifestyle.
15:16
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
15:16
SPEAKER_05: You know, because he's away a lot playing guitar for all these different artists and and uh in you know, he goes to the gym and so I mean uh and she's a nurse.
15:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so she's busy.
15:27
SPEAKER_05: She's busy.
15:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
15:28
SPEAKER_05: So I think she understands, you know.
15:30
SPEAKER_09: Well, I think they they have their separate things, so I mean it just, you know, it works.
15:34
SPEAKER_09: I mean, you know.
15:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
15:36
SPEAKER_05: So I think I think it's gonna be well, you know, it's what I'm looking forward to is just having everybody back together.
15:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
15:42
SPEAKER_05: At least just for just for even for a little while.
15:44
SPEAKER_05: Even for a little while.
15:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
15:45
SPEAKER_05: You know.
15:45
SPEAKER_05: But that is the wrench because my son's game would be on Saturday at 3 30 and the wedding's at three.
15:51
SPEAKER_09: I thought the wedding is that three thirty.
15:54
SPEAKER_05: Uh well, I don't know.
15:55
SPEAKER_05: It's three to three to you know.
15:57
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
15:58
SPEAKER_05: Oh.
16:00
SPEAKER_05: So I because I I put the plan in the in the thread.
16:04
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, yeah.
16:04
SPEAKER_05: You know, because if if m then then we're gonna separate, my wife's gonna go to the basketball game and I'm gonna go to the wedding.
16:10
SPEAKER_05: Right.
16:10
SPEAKER_05: And uh Shane says, wait, there's a wedding this weekend?
16:16
SPEAKER_05: Josh, laugh out loud.
16:18
SPEAKER_05: That sounds great, B Mill.
16:19
SPEAKER_05: So he's he's okay with my plan.
16:20
SPEAKER_05: Okay, that's good.
16:21
SPEAKER_05: So I'm sure he would have liked to have Teresa there, but I'm sure, yeah.
16:24
SPEAKER_05: And again, there's no sense not saying that they're not going to they're gonna lose tomorrow.
16:28
SPEAKER_05: If they lose tomorrow, then we're alright.
16:30
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, everything's uh everything's back to everything's hunky dory status quo.
16:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
16:34
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's just it's just it's just a really weird to think about Joko's getting married.
16:37
SPEAKER_09: I know.
16:38
SPEAKER_09: So let's Because I I've known this kid since 2007.
16:42
SPEAKER_05: Right.
16:42
SPEAKER_09: That's when I first met him.
16:43
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
16:44
SPEAKER_09: I mean, he was like 13.
16:45
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
16:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
16:46
SPEAKER_09: Just crazy now.
16:47
SPEAKER_09: He's now getting married.
16:48
SPEAKER_05: I think we've frightened.
16:50
SPEAKER_05: We've told the story.
16:51
SPEAKER_05: I think we've told the story of how he got in the band, right?
16:53
SPEAKER_05: Didn't we?
16:54
SPEAKER_09: I don't think so.
16:55
SPEAKER_05: You don't think so?
16:56
SPEAKER_09: I don't think so.
16:57
SPEAKER_09: Um we We've we've maybe alluded to it and maybe spoken about different aspects of it, but I don't think we've ever like gone into detail.
17:06
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I don't think so.
17:08
SPEAKER_09: I thought we did, it was a long time ago.
17:11
SPEAKER_05: This is a kid that was when when I met him, I met him obviously through you.
17:16
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
17:16
SPEAKER_05: Um I think he was fifteen.
17:19
SPEAKER_09: He was fifteen or sixteen, something.
17:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, fifteen or six.
17:22
SPEAKER_09: It was when he first started playing guitar.
17:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
17:24
SPEAKER_05: And and he was um he was helping us out.
17:28
SPEAKER_05: Was it that the Spud Speedway thing?
17:30
SPEAKER_05: Or was it before that?
17:32
SPEAKER_09: Might have been before that.
17:34
SPEAKER_05: That we met that we met him and he started hanging out.
17:37
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
17:37
SPEAKER_09: It was before it was before the Spud Speedway thing.
17:40
SPEAKER_05: But he roadied for us at Spud Speedway.
17:42
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
17:42
SPEAKER_05: So we played we opened for uh Big and Rich and Gretchen Wilson and Cowboy Troy again.
17:48
SPEAKER_05: Cowboy Troy and Rick Reese and Kelly Barker.
17:51
SPEAKER_09: Kelly Parker, yeah.
17:52
SPEAKER_05: That's right.
17:52
SPEAKER_05: Uh we opened for for that was a big big thing, and so we needed some help, and so Josh, you know, was part of our entourage or whatever.
18:00
SPEAKER_05: And I remember distinctly, I think we were in a vehicle.
18:04
SPEAKER_05: We were driving in a vehicle.
18:07
SPEAKER_05: And from the back seat, Shane Mountain says, Hey Brian, Josh plays guitar.
18:15
SPEAKER_05: Why don't we put him in the band?
18:18
SPEAKER_05: And I said, Okay.
18:23
SPEAKER_05: And that was it.
18:24
SPEAKER_09: I think he'd only been playing a couple years at that point.
18:26
SPEAKER_05: I don't think he had been playing a couple years.
18:29
SPEAKER_09: It wasn't long.
18:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, no, it was that's what I'm saying.
18:31
SPEAKER_05: It was it was shorter than that, I think.
18:32
SPEAKER_09: I think he had just Because I remember when he first started playing.
18:35
SPEAKER_09: I was like, oh, because he had this old crappy acoustic that it was his cousins or something like that.
18:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
18:42
SPEAKER_09: It was so it was it was a terrible acoustic guitar, but I went out I went uh as a as a as a token of uh you know, because I I I like Josh.
18:51
SPEAKER_09: I always did.
18:52
SPEAKER_09: He's just he's just he's just a great guy.
18:54
SPEAKER_09: Well he's a good kid, yeah.
18:55
SPEAKER_09: He's a very good kid, especially in back then, you know.
18:57
SPEAKER_09: I was just, you know, I was kind of like a big brother to him.
19:00
SPEAKER_09: And uh so I went out and I bought him like picks and uh capo and like new strings and I bought him a chord book.
19:07
SPEAKER_09: Because he hadn't taken a lesson or anything like that.
19:09
SPEAKER_09: So he was just kind of like you know, doing his like a big brother.
19:12
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, like, hey, you're you're doing this here.
19:14
SPEAKER_09: Here take this.
19:15
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, he took it and he ran with it.
19:17
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
19:18
SPEAKER_09: So yeah.
19:19
SPEAKER_09: Um, but yeah, I mean, at that point I was like, okay, this is this is this is a workout.
19:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
19:26
SPEAKER_09: This is a workout, yeah.
19:27
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
19:27
SPEAKER_05: So so he he joined the band.
19:29
SPEAKER_05: Well, we've always kind of flirted with the idea of having another guitar player.
19:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
19:33
SPEAKER_05: Just, you know, kind of, you know, and uh it fills out the sound a little bit.
19:38
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, absolutely.
19:39
SPEAKER_05: So um, so we said, Yeah, uh, you're in and without hearing a note.
19:44
SPEAKER_05: I I never heard a note, you know, him playing.
19:48
SPEAKER_09: There wasn't like an audition or anything.
19:49
SPEAKER_09: Just a hey, you want to be in the band?
19:51
SPEAKER_05: You're in, you're in the band.
19:52
SPEAKER_05: Um and uh did we rehearse before we went to uh Massachusetts?
19:59
SPEAKER_09: Dude, I don't remember.
20:00
SPEAKER_05: I don't remember.
20:00
SPEAKER_09: We must not have well maybe maybe you and Josh did some stuff.
20:04
SPEAKER_05: That's right, yeah.
20:05
SPEAKER_05: We did get together without amps, just guitars.
20:07
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
20:07
SPEAKER_05: And we went so it was like, oh, this is an oldie, so this is like 145.
20:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
20:11
SPEAKER_05: You know, progression or whatever.
20:12
SPEAKER_05: And and so he he got that.
20:14
SPEAKER_05: And he he had been working with our friend Jay Green, I think, for a little while.
20:18
SPEAKER_05: Or not working with him, but he was taking lessons from Jay Green.
20:20
SPEAKER_05: He was uh yeah, he was uh kind of uh He was kind of mentoring Josh at that point.
20:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
20:26
SPEAKER_05: And Jay's an amazing player.
20:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I guess I could play, dude.
20:30
SPEAKER_05: Um so he was in good hands.
20:31
SPEAKER_05: So so we went on a we went uh on a gig, uh one of our big road gigs there to Chicopee, Massachusetts.
20:39
SPEAKER_05: Chicopee.
20:40
SPEAKER_05: And uh he played with us, and it was I guess it was okay.
20:47
SPEAKER_05: It didn't suck.
20:48
SPEAKER_05: It didn't suck.
20:48
SPEAKER_05: Uh he got sick.
20:50
SPEAKER_05: Yep, I do remember that.
20:51
SPEAKER_05: Poor guy.
20:52
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
20:53
SPEAKER_05: And then we came back and I think the next thing we did was in Madawaska, wasn't it?
20:58
SPEAKER_05: In November.
20:59
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that was like that was like September October.
21:02
SPEAKER_09: September.
21:03
SPEAKER_09: It was like late September, early October.
21:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
21:05
SPEAKER_09: So yeah.
21:06
SPEAKER_09: The next one was in in November.
21:09
SPEAKER_05: Jerry T Chugambug.
21:12
SPEAKER_05: And uh so here's the thing, here's my relationship with Josh uh was started out good.
21:21
SPEAKER_05: And there was a time there, because I have a hard time with people who uh and I'm dealing with this with a couple of my kids right now, actually.
21:33
SPEAKER_05: I have a hard time with the people that think their crap doesn't stink.
21:39
SPEAKER_05: You know?
21:40
SPEAKER_05: And Josh get this.
21:42
SPEAKER_05: So I have a fifteen year old.
21:45
SPEAKER_05: Josh was around that age.
21:47
SPEAKER_05: It's a it's a it's a it's a rite of passage, you know, where you think that you're the greatest thing since sliced bread.
21:54
SPEAKER_05: Right.
21:55
SPEAKER_05: And Kovac was was in a band and played guitar and And so it was it was amplified, you know, like his his whole um personality.
22:07
SPEAKER_05: And I had a hard time with it.
22:09
SPEAKER_05: And so I ended up remember what I used to do with Matt?
22:12
SPEAKER_05: Matt and Matt never had that.
22:14
SPEAKER_05: Matt didn't think his crap didn't stick.
22:17
SPEAKER_05: But I used to rag on him all the time.
22:18
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, and so I ended up ragging on Josh.
22:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:21
SPEAKER_05: And Matt ended up ragging on Josh.
22:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:26
SPEAKER_05: And so there was a time where I thought Josh hated me, and he probably did for a little while.
22:33
SPEAKER_05: Because it was hard on him.
22:35
SPEAKER_05: Well, it it got pretty vicious sometimes.
22:38
SPEAKER_05: It did.
22:38
SPEAKER_09: No, and I admit because there was one time you you I don't know what was going on, but it was on it was in the thread.
22:47
SPEAKER_09: And you I mean it was just one right after another on Josh.
22:51
SPEAKER_09: And I just I I left the thread.
22:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:54
SPEAKER_09: I I literally just left the thread.
22:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:56
SPEAKER_05: No, I was no, I admit.
22:58
SPEAKER_09: I mean I I just I was out.
23:00
SPEAKER_09: I was I was done.
23:01
SPEAKER_09: I mean I was like, I just can't take it.
23:03
SPEAKER_09: This is just getting just brutal.
23:06
SPEAKER_05: It was brutal.
23:07
SPEAKER_05: I was I was I mean bleep, but I was an asshole uh to him for a long time.
23:14
SPEAKER_05: Um because I f I don't know when when someone um and he didn't well he didn't deserve it at all, you know.
23:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah I mean he he was it was that age that he was at and that he I think and I think he would say this today too.
23:37
SPEAKER_05: I think he there was a time where he will admit that he was he thought he was pretty great.
23:43
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
23:44
SPEAKER_05: Uh that's a that's a teenager.
23:45
SPEAKER_05: That's what I'm saying.
23:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
23:47
SPEAKER_05: So my gut, my instant reaction to something like that, and like I said, I'm dealing with it with my 15-year-old, is to knock them down a couple pegs.
23:54
SPEAKER_05: Sure.
23:55
SPEAKER_05: You know, yeah.
23:55
SPEAKER_05: Uh it's probably not the right thing to do, but it's like a it's like a uh just um uh instinct.
24:03
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it was like a natural reaction.
24:06
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
24:07
SPEAKER_05: But I was I was a jerk to him, and so for a long time he probably hated me, and I would not blame him for hating me.
24:16
SPEAKER_05: But something switched, and I'm not sure what it was.
24:19
SPEAKER_05: Well, I'm he one of the things was uh he was not a great guitar player in the beginning of the band.
24:27
SPEAKER_09: No, I don't know.
24:28
SPEAKER_05: And there were some things he didn't know.
24:29
SPEAKER_05: Obviously, he just he had just started, you know.
24:31
SPEAKER_09: It was always a second gig.
24:33
SPEAKER_05: So yeah, so I think when we when we pulled him aside and we said, listen, you're not gonna play with us anymore until until we get some work done on you, you know, I mean you learn a little bit more.
24:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
24:43
SPEAKER_05: And I think that that in and of itself may have set him back a little bit.
24:48
SPEAKER_05: Uh but it it made him work.
24:51
SPEAKER_05: Right, that's what I mean.
24:52
SPEAKER_05: But it it it devastated him.
24:54
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, personally, yes.
24:56
SPEAKER_05: And uh and it made it gave him drive and and he worked even harder and look at the results now.
25:04
SPEAKER_09: I know, you know.
25:05
SPEAKER_05: Dude's amazing.
25:06
SPEAKER_05: Amazing.
25:06
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
25:07
SPEAKER_05: And there was a time and and I'll admit, you know, when he went to Nashville, and I'm and I will preface this by saying I'm extremely proud of this kid.
25:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
25:16
SPEAKER_05: Um, and I'm happy to be his friend and happy to uh have been in a band with him.
25:23
SPEAKER_05: Uh but there was some jealousy, you know, because my dream was always to go to Nashville.
25:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
25:28
SPEAKER_05: I didn't I I didn't go because I had a family.
25:31
SPEAKER_05: Right.
25:31
SPEAKER_05: You know, and I just couldn't pick up and and move.
25:34
SPEAKER_05: I probably could have, but we would have been poor.
25:39
SPEAKER_05: And my personality, um my personality and Josh's personality are really different.
25:48
SPEAKER_05: I don't think I I don't think I could I don't think I could I I can't handle rejection very well.
25:54
SPEAKER_05: Not that he had to, but he has he has the drive and the and the um just the right attitude to make it in that business.
26:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
26:06
SPEAKER_05: I don't.
26:07
SPEAKER_05: I don't.
26:08
SPEAKER_05: Um I would like to, you know, you know, I don't know.
26:12
SPEAKER_05: I don't know that I want to be in the music business anymore, but I want to r create and write songs and play and stuff like that.
26:19
SPEAKER_05: So but I am beyond proud of this kid.
26:23
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, absolutely.
26:24
SPEAKER_05: And uh I like to say that we're we're in a good place now.
26:28
SPEAKER_09: Um it was a it was a phase.
26:32
SPEAKER_05: It was a phase.
26:33
SPEAKER_09: And he grew out of it and everybody and they and then we all super gelled.
26:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
26:38
SPEAKER_09: And uh I mean he just I mean he just it was just a medi order.
26:43
SPEAKER_05: It was like a rocket.
26:44
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
26:45
SPEAKER_09: Just I mean, just just his talent and his work ethic, and I mean, just constant.
26:51
SPEAKER_09: I mean, he just got so much he every time we played, he was better than the last time.
26:56
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
26:56
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
26:57
SPEAKER_09: It was just like, I mean, there was a there were times, I mean I always just sitting there, you know, I'd be in the back, you know, because the drummer's kind of like the field general.
27:05
SPEAKER_09: You know, he sees the whole, you know, he sees the battlefield.
27:08
SPEAKER_09: Yep, you know, and I'd be just and Josh would just be soloing and I'm just like, where the frick did that come from?
27:14
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, holy crap, what yeah, what what did he just do?
27:17
SPEAKER_09: What you know, it's just every gig man was like, what's Josh gonna do this time?
27:21
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
27:22
SPEAKER_09: You know, it was just amazing to watch.
27:24
SPEAKER_05: It was, yeah.
27:25
SPEAKER_05: And and uh what he's doing now, I mean, he's he's touring with different artists as their guitar players and sometimes their musical director.
27:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
27:36
SPEAKER_05: Um he's I think he's doing he's doing some recording and some writing, and he's just he's just living the dream, as as Maddie would say.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
27:44
SPEAKER_05: Um and now he's taking that next step and uh he's tying the knot with uh with Allison.
27:51
SPEAKER_05: So I think I think it's gonna be fantastic, and we wish him um the best.
27:56
SPEAKER_05: And I'm really pumped to uh see them this weekend, to meet her and to and to see him.
28:00
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I can't wait.
28:01
SPEAKER_05: Just hang.
28:02
SPEAKER_09: Wow, this is gonna be the first time I've seen Josh in person and since he left.
28:05
SPEAKER_05: No, that's not true.
28:06
SPEAKER_05: Oh no, that's true.
28:07
SPEAKER_05: He did come back here.
28:08
SPEAKER_05: He came back and we went out to eat or something uh at the Well he came and played with us on New Year's Eve.
28:13
SPEAKER_05: He did?
28:13
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, when we were playing in Mapleton.
28:15
SPEAKER_09: Remember that?
28:17
SPEAKER_09: Oh, that was early on when it's like he'd left in like October, and then this was like the following, you know.
28:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was like a few months later.
28:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, that's so but he has come back.
28:26
SPEAKER_05: We wait, we ate at the pub.
28:27
SPEAKER_05: Do you remember that?
28:28
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, yeah, I remember that.
28:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:30
SPEAKER_05: But it's been a while.
28:30
SPEAKER_09: That's been a while.
28:31
SPEAKER_05: That's been a while.
28:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
28:32
SPEAKER_05: I think that was pre-COVID.
28:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was.
28:34
SPEAKER_05: So it was.
28:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
28:35
SPEAKER_05: So it'll be nice to nice to see him and his long hair and something else I could be jealous about.
28:42
SPEAKER_05: He is rocking that look, man.
28:43
SPEAKER_05: He is rocking that look.
28:45
SPEAKER_05: Although the man bun, when he puts it up in the man bun, I'm not.
28:48
SPEAKER_05: I haven't seen the man bun.
28:48
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, I've seen the man bun.
28:49
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I've got it.
28:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
28:51
SPEAKER_05: No, he is he is rocking.
28:53
SPEAKER_05: He's rocking life right now.
28:55
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
28:56
SPEAKER_09: He's young and he's in a touring musician.
28:59
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I mean, geez, that's like if I was if we were that age again, we would be like, yeah.
29:05
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
29:05
SPEAKER_09: We'd be rocking the man bun too.
29:07
SPEAKER_05: If I had a man bun, if I could grow a man bun, absolutely I'd be rocking a man bun.
29:11
SPEAKER_09: I don't think I could, even back then I couldn't.
29:13
SPEAKER_05: No, I don't think so.
29:14
SPEAKER_05: So um the other thing is and and we we won't say this to his face because uh once you get married, the next thing you hear is when are you gonna have kids?
29:31
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
29:32
SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna say it to his face, but I I can't wait for little Joe Kos to be running around.
29:36
SPEAKER_09: That'll be amazing.
29:37
SPEAKER_05: It will be.
29:47
SPEAKER_05: No, I'm excited.
29:48
SPEAKER_05: I think it's gonna be good.
29:49
SPEAKER_09: Nah, I just I still I just can't get over it, man.
29:51
SPEAKER_09: Like I said, I've known him since he was like 13 and just crazy.
29:55
SPEAKER_05: And I don't even know.
29:56
SPEAKER_05: Um because I can't keep track.
30:00
SPEAKER_05: How old is that kid now?
30:05
SPEAKER_05: So look he joined us in what 2010?
30:09
SPEAKER_05: Is that right?
30:09
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, sounds about right.
30:10
SPEAKER_05: And he was let's say he was 16.
30:13
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, so he'd be uh 28.
30:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's almost 30 years old, dude.
30:20
SPEAKER_05: That's just crazy.
30:21
SPEAKER_09: That's sick.
30:22
SPEAKER_05: Crazy.
30:23
SPEAKER_09: Sickening.
30:24
SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
30:25
SPEAKER_06: Um suck's getting old, man.
30:26
SPEAKER_06: It does.
30:28
SPEAKER_06: It does.
30:28
SPEAKER_06: It really does.
30:30
SPEAKER_05: Um this is a great segue to our next one.
30:36
SPEAKER_05: 15 musicians these bands wanted you to forget.
30:41
SPEAKER_05: Joke oh.
30:43
SPEAKER_05: Ouch.
30:44
SPEAKER_05: That hurts.
30:45
SPEAKER_05: It was a joke.
30:46
SPEAKER_05: I know.
30:46
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
30:47
SPEAKER_05: Hold on.
30:48
SPEAKER_05: I'll even make it.
30:49
SPEAKER_05: There you go.
30:50
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
30:50
SPEAKER_05: Uh obviously we didn't we don't want you to forget him because I think it was the last post on our website that we don't have anymore.
30:58
SPEAKER_05: Uh that he was going to Nashville.
31:00
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, we're saying that uh I think that was it after that.
31:03
SPEAKER_09: We were we never did another post.
31:04
SPEAKER_09: I think baby people were like, oh, they must be done.
31:09
SPEAKER_09: Guess there's no more common cross.
31:10
SPEAKER_09: I was gonna say the good part of the band's gone.
31:12
SPEAKER_09: So the talent left, so no, we found an another list.
31:19
SPEAKER_05: We we've been doing well with these lists.
31:21
SPEAKER_09: But this isn't ultimate classicrock.com.
31:23
SPEAKER_05: Which is amazing.
31:24
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I know, right?
31:25
SPEAKER_09: This is Society of Rock.
31:27
SPEAKER_09: Society of Rock.
31:29
SPEAKER_09: I mean, that's that's just I mean, that's just like a step up.
31:32
SPEAKER_05: Uh so 15 musicians, these bands wanted you to.
31:36
SPEAKER_09: So there's a little uh little I can think of a couple right off the top of my head.
31:39
SPEAKER_09: Well, I'm sure that I'm sure they'll probably pop up on those.
31:42
SPEAKER_09: Um bands change their lineups, it happens, but not all members get to be remembered after quitting or getting fired.
31:48
SPEAKER_09: We list down 15 musicians who became a part of these rock bands, but have little mention or worse, not mentioned in anything at all, as they have as if they have never existed.
32:01
SPEAKER_09: This was the first one surprised me.
32:03
SPEAKER_09: Okay, because I don't think this is necessarily true.
32:06
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
32:07
SPEAKER_09: Number one, Michael Anthony.
32:10
SPEAKER_09: Oh no, they tried to erase him.
32:12
SPEAKER_09: Remember that?
32:12
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I do remember.
32:13
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah, but it still surprised me.
32:15
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I suppose.
32:16
SPEAKER_09: Uh Michael Anthony was the bassist and backing vocalist for the band from 1974 to 2006 until the late Eddie Van Halen suggested his son Wolfgang to replace Anthony.
32:25
SPEAKER_09: And he said, every note Mike ever played, I had to show him.
32:29
SPEAKER_09: Mike's voice is like a piccolo trumpet, but he's not a singer.
32:33
SPEAKER_09: Following the change of lineup, fans noticed that Van Halen had airbrushed Anthony out of the band photos on their official site.
32:39
SPEAKER_05: Which was dirty.
32:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
32:40
SPEAKER_05: It was dirty.
32:41
SPEAKER_09: Anthony admitted in a 2007 Rolling Stone interview, that bummed me out quite a bit.
32:45
SPEAKER_09: I'm proud of all my history of Van Halen, and maybe they feel otherwise.
32:49
SPEAKER_05: You know, they never told him he was out of the band.
32:51
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, they just kind of like Yeah.
32:53
SPEAKER_09: They just stopped calling.
32:54
SPEAKER_09: Right.
32:54
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
32:55
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
32:55
SPEAKER_05: And then I think it was I think it was the management that said that tried to get him to turn over his royalties.
33:00
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and and that's another dick thing.
33:02
SPEAKER_09: That is such a dick move.
33:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
33:04
SPEAKER_09: I mean, you know, especially when you can't do it yourself.
33:07
SPEAKER_09: I mean, nineteen he went nineteen seventy-four to two thousand six.
33:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know.
33:11
SPEAKER_05: When you and you can't even go to the guy?
33:14
SPEAKER_05: Right.
33:14
SPEAKER_05: The thing about it is also I think they don't give Van Halen fans enough credit when it comes to the legacy of the band.
33:25
SPEAKER_05: I think fans welcomed Wolfgang.
33:28
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
33:28
SPEAKER_05: I think that they thought it was great that Wolfgang was in the band, but you'll never, you know, replace Michael Anthony.
33:35
SPEAKER_05: Right.
33:35
SPEAKER_05: It's just a different thing.
33:36
SPEAKER_05: Right.
33:36
SPEAKER_05: You know?
33:37
SPEAKER_05: And Michael Anthony is a part of the fabric of Van Halen and always will be.
33:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
33:41
SPEAKER_05: And I think the fans believe that.
33:44
SPEAKER_05: And they can do what what they want.
33:46
SPEAKER_05: And that's why they took so much heat when they tried to take Anth Mike Anthony off the album covers and it's like you're not how how can you erase a guy like Michael Anthony?
33:56
SPEAKER_05: Right.
33:57
SPEAKER_09: It just can't be done.
33:58
SPEAKER_05: Right.
33:58
SPEAKER_09: You know, there's just yeah.
34:00
SPEAKER_09: That's just stupid.
34:01
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
34:01
SPEAKER_09: But anyway.
34:02
SPEAKER_09: Number two, Brian Wilson.
34:05
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
34:05
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
34:06
SPEAKER_09: Brian Wilson was fired from the band on November 5th, 1982.
34:10
SPEAKER_09: In 1998, Carl Wilson died of lung cancer, and on that same year, Mike Love was granted sole right to use the Beach Boy's name while touring.
34:18
SPEAKER_09: Fast forward to 2012, the remaining Beach Boys reunited to perform at the Grammy Awards and toured together and released a new album.
34:25
SPEAKER_09: That's why God made the radio.
34:27
SPEAKER_09: However, Love continued to maintain rights to the Beach Boys' name and touring decided not to perform with the rest of the members, Wilson, Al Jardine, and David Marks.
34:36
SPEAKER_09: Wilson told CNN back then, I'm disappointed and can't understand why he doesn't want to tour with Al, David, and me.
34:43
SPEAKER_09: We are out here having so much fun after all.
34:45
SPEAKER_09: We are the real Beach Boys.
34:47
SPEAKER_05: It's true.
34:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
34:48
SPEAKER_05: Brian Wilson was the brainchild of the brains of it.
34:52
SPEAKER_05: He was the absolute brains of it.
34:54
SPEAKER_05: He was the he was the orchestrator, the songwriter.
34:57
SPEAKER_05: He was everything.
34:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
34:58
SPEAKER_05: The producer.
34:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
35:00
SPEAKER_05: You know, I mean, he he did it all and then uh and they fired him.
35:04
SPEAKER_05: I mean, he also did he did it all as far as drugs too.
35:08
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
35:08
SPEAKER_05: I mean, there's no question that uh, you know, they had to address that.
35:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
35:15
SPEAKER_05: And and so finally they they got rid of him or whatever, but you can't I mean it's like that it's the same thing with Brian Wilson.
35:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
35:22
SPEAKER_05: Brian Wilson is always a beach boy.
35:23
SPEAKER_05: You know?
35:24
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he always will be.
35:25
SPEAKER_05: Always will be.
35:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
35:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
35:26
SPEAKER_09: But I do think it's weird that the Wrecking Crew did a lot of the Beach Boys albums.
35:32
SPEAKER_05: More than the Beach Boys.
35:33
SPEAKER_05: They did a lot of being.
35:34
SPEAKER_09: Well, they did a lot of other people.
35:35
SPEAKER_09: But I mean the beach you know, considering how much of a control guy Brian Wilson is.
35:41
SPEAKER_09: I mean he was he was there.
35:42
SPEAKER_05: Well, I think that's why the Wrecking Crew did it, because he was producing and he knew that his his you know cousins and and you know brothers in the band couldn't play the music that he heard in his head.
35:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
35:55
SPEAKER_05: So he he had the wrecking crew do it.
35:57
SPEAKER_05: And uh and yeah.
35:59
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
35:59
SPEAKER_09: Interesting.
36:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it is interesting.
36:01
SPEAKER_09: Okay, this is a this is a guy I never knew.
36:04
SPEAKER_09: Number three, Daryl Jones, Rolling Stone.
36:07
SPEAKER_05: Oh, bass player.
36:08
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
36:08
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
36:09
SPEAKER_09: I didn't uh for some reason I completely forgot.
36:11
SPEAKER_05: Well, still to this day they don't really give him a lot of Well, apparently his work because I didn't know.
36:17
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, mission accomplished Rolling Stones.
36:20
SPEAKER_09: Right.
36:20
SPEAKER_09: Uh following Bill Wyman's departure from the band, Daryl Jones has been a has been the Rolling Stones bassist since 1993.
36:27
SPEAKER_09: However, he's not seen in the group's official photos and not regularly included in their music videos.
36:33
SPEAKER_09: Hugh McDonald.
36:34
SPEAKER_09: The BBC dubbed Jones the unknown stone.
36:41
SPEAKER_09: Jones told the BBC in terms of membership of this very small and exclusive club, I guess I'll always be like the new guy.
36:48
SPEAKER_09: In terms of playing with the band, though, I feel like a bit of an old hand now.
36:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's well, he's been playing with them for quite a while.
36:55
SPEAKER_09: Well, 1993?
36:57
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
36:57
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, so I I I hadn't any that when I read it, I was like, Oh yeah.
37:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so when you think of the stones today, you think of Keith Richards, McJagger, Ron Wood, and um the drummer.
37:10
SPEAKER_05: Charlie Watts.
37:10
SPEAKER_05: Charlie Watts.
37:11
SPEAKER_05: Now Charlie Watts is dead, so you think of those three.
37:13
SPEAKER_05: You forget about Bill Lyman.
37:15
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
37:15
SPEAKER_05: Because it's been so long.
37:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
37:17
SPEAKER_05: And who's playing bass?
37:18
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, it's this guy named Daryl.
37:20
SPEAKER_09: Oh, that's that guy.
37:21
SPEAKER_09: T.B.
37:22
SPEAKER_09: Blair, right.
37:23
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
37:24
SPEAKER_09: That was just it was crazy.
37:26
SPEAKER_09: Number four, Bill Ward, Black Sabbath.
37:28
SPEAKER_09: Oh, the drummer.
37:29
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
37:29
SPEAKER_09: Bill Ward left the band in 2012.
37:32
SPEAKER_09: But prior to that, he was all set along with his former founding members for a Black Sabbath reunion album mentor.
37:38
SPEAKER_09: Until Ozzie Osborne claimed that he wasn't physically able to perform.
37:42
SPEAKER_09: A public war of wor of words.
37:45
SPEAKER_09: Bill wasn't physically able to perform, or that's what I'm assuming.
37:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:48
SPEAKER_09: That Ozzy claimed that he wasn't physically able to perform.
37:51
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
37:52
SPEAKER_09: I I it's a little ambiguous if he's talking about himself or Bill.
37:55
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
37:56
SPEAKER_09: A public war of words happened, and in the end, Osborne, Tony, Tony Iomi, and Geezer Butler continued as Black Sabbath, while Ward found himself removed from the band's official website, which is a which is a request from his own lawyer, so as to not give the public the wrong impression about the his involvement in the current Black Sabbath lineup.
38:19
SPEAKER_09: So that was interesting.
38:20
SPEAKER_09: Number five, John Karabi.
38:22
SPEAKER_05: Oh, Motley Crue.
38:23
SPEAKER_05: Motley Crew.
38:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
38:24
SPEAKER_09: John Karabi took Vince Neal's place and was part of the Motley Crew's part of the Motley Crew, their self-titled whoever wrote this did not do a very good job here.
38:34
SPEAKER_09: Their self-titled 1994 album, but Motley Crue.
38:40
SPEAKER_05: Oh.
38:41
SPEAKER_05: Keep going.
38:42
SPEAKER_09: But when Neil later returned, the band pretended that Karabi never existed.
38:46
SPEAKER_09: After the reunion, Neil even said he'd never heard of any of the recordings where Karabi was a part of.
38:52
SPEAKER_09: The band never performed the songs in their concerts, and the album wasn't included in their reissue series.
38:57
SPEAKER_09: Karabi told Rock Revolt in 2013, I think deep down, parentheses, Motley Crue, know that we made a great record together.
39:05
SPEAKER_09: Is it their best record?
39:07
SPEAKER_09: I'm not going to be the one to say that.
39:09
SPEAKER_09: But for that for that time period and time frame, I think we made something really special.
39:22
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
39:22
SPEAKER_05: Can't really hear it very well, but it's kind of a crappy record.
39:26
SPEAKER_05: Move on.
39:27
SPEAKER_09: Number six, Phil Rudd.
39:29
SPEAKER_09: AC DC?
39:29
SPEAKER_09: A C DC.
39:30
SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's because he had some like charges or something against him or something, right?
39:34
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
39:35
SPEAKER_09: Phil Rudd was a member of ACDC from 1975 to 1983.
39:39
SPEAKER_09: And then again beginning in 1994.
39:41
SPEAKER_09: However, in 2014, he was sentenced to eight months of home detention following his arrest for threatening to kill two people and possession of cannabis and methamphetamine.
39:52
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
39:52
SPEAKER_09: Woo! Go fell.
39:54
SPEAKER_09: Now fans won't even find mention of Rudd on the band's official website, even though he was the longest drummer of AC ACDC.
40:00
SPEAKER_09: Well, who's playing drums from now?
40:02
SPEAKER_09: Uh good question.
40:04
SPEAKER_05: It's not Simon Wright, is it?
40:08
SPEAKER_09: Now I don't hear it.
40:09
SPEAKER_09: Now you got me uh Yeah.
40:11
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna look, let's see here.
40:13
SPEAKER_05: Uh because listen, what's Wikipedia say?
40:16
SPEAKER_05: Because if Wikipedia says like current lineup, they must say current lineup.
40:21
SPEAKER_05: Uh no, it says Phil Rudd.
40:25
SPEAKER_05: So Phil Rudd's still playing with them now.
40:27
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
40:28
SPEAKER_05: It says current members.
40:30
SPEAKER_05: Uh let me just look down here.
40:36
SPEAKER_05: No, it doesn't uh well yeah, it says Phil Rudd, 1975 to 1983, 1994 to 2015, 2018 to present.
40:45
SPEAKER_05: So Phil Rudd still playing with the wheel.
40:46
SPEAKER_09: Oh, so he's still playing with him.
40:47
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
40:47
SPEAKER_09: All right.
40:48
SPEAKER_09: Well, you know, he probably uh took some anger anger management classes or something.
40:55
SPEAKER_09: Jeez, crow threatened to kill two people.
40:58
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
41:00
SPEAKER_09: Okay, you gotta take a break, dude.
41:02
SPEAKER_09: Uh number seven, Don Felder.
41:05
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, that was dirty.
41:06
SPEAKER_05: That was dirty.
41:07
SPEAKER_05: That was dirty.
41:07
SPEAKER_09: Don Felder was fired from the Eagles in 2001 after questioning his financial stake and compensation.
41:12
SPEAKER_09: He went on to file a lawsuit against Don Henley and Glenn Fry, and ever since then their relationship was permanently torn.
41:19
SPEAKER_09: Felder wasn't invited to be part of the lengthy history of the Eagles tour that started in 2013.
41:25
SPEAKER_09: Felder said in 2012, the only time that I hear back from them is through their attorneys.
41:31
SPEAKER_09: That's just the way it is.
41:32
SPEAKER_05: So his his beef was that Don and Glenn were getting more money than the rest of the members of the band.
41:41
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
41:41
SPEAKER_05: But I think they probably write a lot of the songs.
41:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
41:48
SPEAKER_05: A lot of them.
41:49
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
41:49
SPEAKER_05: A good majority of them were them.
41:51
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
41:51
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
41:51
SPEAKER_09: So I mean I get that.
41:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
41:53
SPEAKER_05: But even I mean he just questioned it.
41:57
SPEAKER_05: You know, and they fired him.
41:58
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, well, that's that's that's more of a dictatorship than being the band.
42:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
42:03
SPEAKER_09: You know, it's like, hey, you you're questioning us?
42:06
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
42:06
SPEAKER_09: You little guitar player, you, I'm Don Henley.
42:09
SPEAKER_09: Right.
42:11
SPEAKER_09: I am your god.
42:14
SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
42:15
SPEAKER_09: It's probably not probably sad.
42:16
SPEAKER_05: Probably not that way.
42:18
SPEAKER_09: The O'Brien and Doug podcast did not just say the Doug and O'Brien content podcast?
42:24
SPEAKER_05: The Doug and O'Brien podcast?
42:25
SPEAKER_09: O'Brien and Doug podcast.
42:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
42:27
SPEAKER_09: We we did not say.
42:29
SPEAKER_05: I get paid more than you.
42:31
SPEAKER_09: What?
42:34
SPEAKER_09: You get paid?
42:37
SPEAKER_08: If only where did this happen?
42:45
SPEAKER_08: Where was that?
42:46
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
42:48
SPEAKER_09: Playing songs on my guitar.
42:50
SPEAKER_09: Saying stupid stuff on the microphone.
42:53
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
42:54
SPEAKER_09: Of course, there's also that famous blow-up back in the 80s when they were like, I'm gonna kick your ass.
42:59
SPEAKER_09: Glenn Fry had done it.
43:02
SPEAKER_09: I mean, that's just classic.
43:03
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
43:04
SPEAKER_09: Oh, okay.
43:05
SPEAKER_09: Number eight is Jimmy Crespo.
43:07
SPEAKER_09: I never knew this guy.
43:08
SPEAKER_09: Aerosmith?
43:09
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
43:09
SPEAKER_09: Jimmy Crespo.
43:10
SPEAKER_09: Excuse me while I yawn.
43:12
SPEAKER_09: This is such a great list.
43:17
SPEAKER_09: Jimmy Crespo stepped in when Joe Perry was out of Aerosmith.
43:20
SPEAKER_09: He was with the band from 1979 to 1984 and appeared on six of the ten songs on 1982's top 40 album Rock in a Hard Place, including Three Mile Smile from 1979's Night in the Ruts.
43:35
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
43:36
SPEAKER_09: However, drummer Joey Kramer disowned the album.
43:40
SPEAKER_09: Kramer said in 2019's Hit Hard, a story of hitting rock bottom at the top.
43:46
SPEAKER_09: There's some real good stuff on it, but it's not a real Aerosmith record because it's just me, Steven, and Tom with a fill and guitar player.
43:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
43:55
SPEAKER_09: Ooh.
43:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
43:57
SPEAKER_09: But despite these comments, Crespo took part in Kramer's.
44:00
SPEAKER_09: Side project Renegade prior having prior having back the classic era lineup of Aerosmith.
44:08
SPEAKER_05: Weird writing, yeah.
44:10
SPEAKER_05: I mean it's not ultimate classic rock.
44:12
SPEAKER_09: No, I mean those guys can write.
44:14
SPEAKER_09: Uh number nine, Jeff Nichols.
44:17
SPEAKER_05: Who's that?
44:18
SPEAKER_09: Black Sabbath, apparently.
44:19
SPEAKER_09: Whoa.
44:20
SPEAKER_09: Uh Singer?
44:22
SPEAKER_09: I don't know yet.
44:23
SPEAKER_09: Hold on yet.
44:24
SPEAKER_09: Uh Jeff Nichols appeared on every Black Sabbath album between 1980s Heaven and Hell and 1995's Forbidden.
44:32
SPEAKER_09: He was also a regular member of their touring band, as heard on 2007's Live at the Hammersmith Odeon.
44:39
SPEAKER_09: Outside the band, Tony Iomi produced Nichols band Quartz, self-titled debut.
44:46
SPEAKER_09: Later, Nichols also toured with former Sabbath singer Tony Martin's head band Headless Cross.
44:52
SPEAKER_09: However, fans have little knowledge about him since the band made Nichols perform backstage, assuming that having a keyboard player didn't seem metal enough.
45:03
SPEAKER_09: Bill Ward said following Nichols' 2017 cancer death, to me he was a great musician, but he never stepped out.
45:10
SPEAKER_09: He was always respected, he always respected the privacy of wherever we were in our thinking and in our balance.
45:16
SPEAKER_09: And that's what makes a good musician.
45:18
SPEAKER_09: When you can see where the other guy is and you can make room for them.
45:23
SPEAKER_09: Number 10, Peter Chris.
45:25
SPEAKER_06: Who?
45:26
SPEAKER_09: Peter, ouch.
45:28
SPEAKER_09: Peter Chris quit the band twice.
45:30
SPEAKER_09: From KISS, by the way.
45:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
45:32
SPEAKER_09: Uh but he officially left KISS in 1980 and retired from touring in 2017.
45:37
SPEAKER_09: Chris Crow wrote and sang the 1976 number seven Smash Beft, KISS' highest charting billboard single.
45:45
SPEAKER_09: The first of two top ten singles, along with 1990's number eight hit Forever.
45:50
SPEAKER_09: And one of the only two gold-selling songs in their catalog preceding 1979's I Was Made for Loving You.
45:57
SPEAKER_09: But following his departure, the band re-recorded the song with Chris's replacement Eric Carr and made him wear Chris's signature Cat Man makeup.
46:05
SPEAKER_09: After the remake appeared on 1988 Smashes, Thrashes, and Hits, Chris fired back and told Kerrang, it's really ridiculous.
46:13
SPEAKER_09: It's sad.
46:14
SPEAKER_09: Kiss didn't even tell me they were going to redo Beth with Eric on vocals.
46:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
46:18
SPEAKER_05: I think they used the they used the uh did they use the actual music from Beth and and he just sang it?
46:26
SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
46:27
SPEAKER_09: I just I don't know.
46:28
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
46:29
SPEAKER_09: That's what it's kind of sounds like they did.
46:30
SPEAKER_05: I thought that's what they did, but probably did.
46:32
SPEAKER_05: I mean just you know, just wipe the vocals out and hey, you know, incidentally, uh, I don't know if they want to admit this, but you know that other s that other hit song that Kiss had called Forever?
46:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
46:41
SPEAKER_05: Um, do you know who co-wrote that?
46:44
SPEAKER_05: Richard Marks?
46:45
SPEAKER_05: Close.
46:46
SPEAKER_05: Michael Bolton.
46:47
SPEAKER_05: Really?
46:49
SPEAKER_08: That's funny.
46:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
46:52
SPEAKER_05: I'm pretty sure.
46:53
SPEAKER_05: I want to make sure.
46:54
SPEAKER_05: Keep going, keep going.
46:55
SPEAKER_05: Number 11, Mitch Malloy.
46:57
SPEAKER_05: Oh, uh Well is this a Van Halen tie?
47:01
SPEAKER_05: Oh, well, see, I don't think he's really He was never in the band.
47:05
SPEAKER_09: Mitch Malloy had already started working on new music with the band before David Lee Roth famously joined Van Halen on stage during MTV's video music awards, which was his first appearance since leaving in 1985.
47:18
SPEAKER_09: Malloy felt like he had been stabbed in the back when he found out that he he wasn't going to take over for Sammy Hagar in Van Halen while watching MTV in the mid-1990s.
47:30
SPEAKER_09: Malloy said in the documentary Van Halen's Lost Boy, I was like, What?
47:35
SPEAKER_09: My jaw just dropped.
47:36
SPEAKER_09: When I saw Dave come out with him, that was it for me.
47:39
SPEAKER_09: It was over.
47:39
SPEAKER_09: This can't work for me.
47:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, you know, they when when they lost Roth, they went and talked to Patty Smythe and a couple other people, and I don't think he was never and and this is not to take anything away from Mitch Malloy, but I think and also Van Halen kind of operated in a weird way sometimes.
48:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
48:01
SPEAKER_05: You know, I mean that whole that whole David Lee Roth thing, you know, that was that was a uh that was a disaster.
48:07
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that was bad.
48:08
SPEAKER_05: Uh the way they the way they handled it.
48:10
SPEAKER_05: Right.
48:11
SPEAKER_05: Because I think I think I think David Lee Roth actually thought that they were back together.
48:18
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
48:18
SPEAKER_05: I think they let him on.
48:19
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
48:20
SPEAKER_05: Just so that, you know, they could um sell records.
48:23
SPEAKER_07: Oh, well yeah.
48:24
SPEAKER_05: Um and and they had never uh had any intention of having him in the band, but they betcha they made him believe that.
48:31
SPEAKER_05: Mitch Malloy, same thing.
48:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
48:32
SPEAKER_05: I bet you they were trying him out and they made him believe that he was the guy and he wasn't the guy.
48:39
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
48:39
SPEAKER_09: So but that sounds like a Van Halen brother thing.
48:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
48:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, unfortunately.
48:44
SPEAKER_05: And Kiss uh the Kiss's song Forever was written by Michael Bolton and Paul Stanley.
48:48
SPEAKER_09: That's funny.
48:49
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
48:50
SPEAKER_05: I like that song though.
48:52
SPEAKER_09: I don't think I really know it.
48:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you do.
48:54
SPEAKER_05: Anyway.
48:54
SPEAKER_05: Can you can you play a little snippet of it?
48:56
SPEAKER_05: I'll find it right now.
48:57
SPEAKER_05: You keep go to the next one.
48:58
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
48:58
SPEAKER_09: Twelve, uh, number twelve, Dave Mason, Fleetwood Mac.
49:01
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I forgot Dave Mason was in Fleetwood Mac.
49:03
SPEAKER_09: Dave Mason was inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a founding member of Traffic.
49:07
SPEAKER_09: But his mid-90s tenure with Fleetwood Mac wasn't so popular.
49:12
SPEAKER_09: He appeared only in one album, 1995's Time, and Stevie Nicks was gone by then, while Lindsay Buckingham only contributed backing vocals for one song.
49:22
SPEAKER_09: It became the first Fleetwood Mac album that failed to chart in the US since 1968.
49:27
SPEAKER_09: The band didn't tour in support of the album, and the songs weren't performed.
49:31
SPEAKER_09: Co-founder Mick Fleetwood blamed the absence of Nyx.
49:35
SPEAKER_09: He said in Fleetwood Mac on Fleetwood Mac, interviews and the encounters, we may as well have not made that album.
49:41
SPEAKER_09: In retrospect, it should have been stopped.
49:47
SPEAKER_07: Some of you may remember named Delaney and Bonnie.
49:50
SPEAKER_05: Oh, this is Dave Mason with uh Fleetwood Mac.
49:54
SPEAKER_05: And he's not doing a Fleetwood Mac song, so I did find this though.
49:57
SPEAKER_05: Uh just to go back a little bit.
50:00
SPEAKER_05: Hold on.
50:04
SPEAKER_05: This is this is Mitch Malloy at the Van Halen Experience Tribute concert.
50:18
SPEAKER_05: Just curious what he would sound like to a panama.
50:34
SPEAKER_05: The guy in the crowd would stop singing.
50:46
SPEAKER_05: I do think Mitch Malloy is milking that a little bit that he was he was the manhaling guy.
50:51
SPEAKER_09: I could be.
50:52
SPEAKER_05: You know who he's singing with now?
50:53
SPEAKER_05: No.
50:53
SPEAKER_05: Great White.
50:54
SPEAKER_05: Is he really?
50:55
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
50:55
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
50:56
SPEAKER_05: He's a new lead singer for Great White.
50:57
SPEAKER_05: Or not new.
50:58
SPEAKER_05: He's been there for a little while.
50:59
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
50:59
SPEAKER_05: Uh so you wanted me to play Kiss.
51:01
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, whatever.
51:02
SPEAKER_05: Do I know this song?
51:03
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
51:06
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I do know this song.
51:07
SPEAKER_05: You know?
51:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
51:08
SPEAKER_05: And then I go to the chorus.
51:09
SPEAKER_09: It's Yeah.
51:11
SPEAKER_05: I never know.
51:12
SPEAKER_05: It's a power ballad.
51:12
SPEAKER_05: It is a power ballad.
51:14
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
51:14
SPEAKER_05: Typical.
51:15
SPEAKER_05: Alright, go to the next one.
51:16
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
51:17
SPEAKER_09: Number 13, Bob Kulik.
51:20
SPEAKER_09: Another kiss one.
51:21
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
51:22
SPEAKER_09: Bob Kulik ghost played or kisses Ace Freely and appeared on three tracks, All American Man Rockin' in the USA and Larger Than Life from 1977's Alive 2.
51:32
SPEAKER_09: He was also the one who played on Naked City from 1980s Unmasked.
51:37
SPEAKER_09: But he wasn't credited for any of those.
51:39
SPEAKER_09: Kulik held onto his secret for many years.
51:42
SPEAKER_09: He told UCR, which I imagine is ultimate classic rock in 2018.
51:48
SPEAKER_09: It was important to me that when they said this has to be between us and us only, and I'm going to keep my word.
51:54
SPEAKER_09: It's all about integrity, and that's how I'm gonna I'm able to keep going.
51:58
SPEAKER_09: Huh.
51:59
SPEAKER_05: That's interesting.
52:00
SPEAKER_05: I think I heard that too.
52:01
SPEAKER_05: I knew Bob Kulik had a lot to do with kids.
52:04
SPEAKER_05: I think he just passed away too.
52:06
SPEAKER_05: Bob Kulick did.
52:06
SPEAKER_05: I think so.
52:07
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
52:08
SPEAKER_09: Uh number 14, Dave Navarro.
52:10
SPEAKER_09: Red Hot Chili Peppers.
52:11
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
52:11
SPEAKER_09: Dave Navarro was a part of the band from 1993 to 1998 and appeared on one studio album, 1995's One Hot Minute, which produced three singles on the way to uh number four ranking on the Billboard charts.
52:24
SPEAKER_09: Navarro told an MTV in 1995, I still love those guys to death, and being a chili pepper was one of the best experiences of my life.
52:32
SPEAKER_05: I'm trying to think of what uh the three hit songs were that came off that album.
52:38
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, keep going.
52:41
SPEAKER_09: Three singles.
52:42
SPEAKER_09: Three singles?
52:43
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
52:43
SPEAKER_05: It didn't say what they were, though.
52:45
SPEAKER_09: No.
52:46
SPEAKER_05: Warped.
52:46
SPEAKER_05: Oh, Aeroplane.
52:49
SPEAKER_05: Aeroplane was uh do you remember Aeroplane?
52:51
SPEAKER_09: I don't remember.
52:52
SPEAKER_09: Really?
52:54
SPEAKER_04: Umplane.
52:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
52:58
SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
53:05
SPEAKER_05: Um I'll play a little piece of that.
53:07
SPEAKER_05: This is uh Red Hot Chili Peppers with Dave Navarro.
53:11
SPEAKER_05: And it goes like this.
53:17
SPEAKER_05: I don't remember a lot of the songs from that I don't that era.
53:21
SPEAKER_05: I remember this one though.
53:24
SPEAKER_01: I like the spike when play the music is my own bank.
53:29
SPEAKER_01: It's my rope.
53:32
SPEAKER_05: No, not bad.
53:33
SPEAKER_05: Not ringing any bells.
53:34
SPEAKER_05: Not ringing any bells.
53:38
unknown: It's my rote.
53:43
SPEAKER_09: Well, I kind of lost interest in the chili peppers after uh Blood Sugar sacks magic.
53:49
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
53:49
SPEAKER_05: Which was like their breakthrough success.
53:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
53:54
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
53:54
SPEAKER_09: Last one, last but not least, Jeff Scott Soto.
53:58
SPEAKER_09: Oh, Journey.
53:59
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
53:59
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
54:00
SPEAKER_09: Jeff Scott Soto had a brief tenure with Journey from December 2006 to June 2007.
54:05
SPEAKER_09: I love how they put into butts.
54:09
SPEAKER_09: He never entered the studio with the band, Soto said back then.
54:12
SPEAKER_09: I was looking forward to a long, prosperous future with these guys, but it seems they wanted something different than I brought to the table.
54:19
SPEAKER_09: I wish them all the best, but now it's time to continue working on my own path again.
54:23
SPEAKER_09: Following Soto's departure, journey discovered Arnell Panada Panada Panada on YouTube and officially became their leader singer.
54:31
SPEAKER_05: Jeff Scott Soto uh is a great singer and he's not.
54:37
SPEAKER_05: It's really hard to hear, but he's a different kind of singer.
54:43
SPEAKER_05: He was not a Steve Perry raspy guy.
54:45
SPEAKER_05: He's got a lower voice, sort of.
54:47
SPEAKER_05: He could hit all the notes.
54:48
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
54:52
SPEAKER_05: And he did a great job.
54:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he sounded good.
54:54
SPEAKER_05: But what's what's what was dirty about it is they just didn't they didn't tell him why that he was not gonna be with the band anymore.
55:03
SPEAKER_05: Right.
55:04
SPEAKER_05: They just kind of went and found Arnell.
55:06
SPEAKER_09: And this seems to be a running trend.
55:10
SPEAKER_09: It is.
55:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's great.
55:23
SPEAKER_05: I think uh just Scott Soto might have brought something new to Journey back back then.
55:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah you know, because uh I th Arnell sounds like Steve Perry.
55:34
SPEAKER_05: Not a lot like Steve Perry, but a but enough.
55:37
SPEAKER_05: But enough to make you go, whoa.
55:39
SPEAKER_05: You know, the first guy that they got was Steve Augieri, and he sounded like Steve Perry too.
55:43
SPEAKER_05: Right.
55:44
SPEAKER_05: So obviously they're trying to find someone to carry on the sound.
55:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
55:48
SPEAKER_05: And I think Jeff Scott Soto, even though he didn't sound like Steve Perry, I think he would have brought something pretty cool to to the table.
55:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
55:56
SPEAKER_05: But and maybe taken them in a better direction where they're not fighting like they are now.
56:00
SPEAKER_09: Right.
56:00
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
56:01
SPEAKER_09: But yeah, they're like an old married couple right now.
56:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they are.
56:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
56:05
SPEAKER_05: So that's uh f and you know we didn't mention Huey McDonald, but because Huey McDonald is now Oh, he's now a full-fledged member.
56:13
SPEAKER_05: He's now a full-fledged member of Bon Jovi.
56:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
56:15
SPEAKER_05: Which was an interesting we talked about this before too, I think, on another podcast.
56:20
SPEAKER_05: Um so Bon Jovi's first hit song, Runaway, uh, was made up of studio musicians and Huey McDonald played bass on it.
56:29
SPEAKER_09: I didn't know that until you mentioned that.
56:30
SPEAKER_09: He played bass on it.
56:32
SPEAKER_05: And then then John Bon Jovi got the band together and did the rest of the album.
56:37
SPEAKER_05: And then just it's like full circle when Alec Johnsuch is kicked out of the band.
56:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they get Huey McDonald to join the band.
56:43
SPEAKER_05: But he never had his picture taken with that band.
56:47
SPEAKER_09: I always felt bad for him because it was like after uh Alex left, it was like then when the whenever you saw pictures of Bon Jovi, it was four people.
56:54
SPEAKER_09: Right.
56:55
SPEAKER_09: Well, there's Where's the bass player?
56:58
SPEAKER_09: Don't you have a bass player?
56:59
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
56:59
SPEAKER_09: Well is is is uh what's his face playing bass now?
57:02
SPEAKER_09: Uh guitar uh not the guitar, but the keyboard player.
57:05
SPEAKER_05: Dave Bryan?
57:06
SPEAKER_09: Dave Bryant.
57:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
57:07
SPEAKER_09: Is Dave playing like is it like a doors thing?
57:09
SPEAKER_09: Is he playing the bass note on the on the keyboard?
57:12
SPEAKER_09: Right.
57:12
SPEAKER_09: What's going on?
57:13
SPEAKER_05: Well, they did the same thing with the Rolling Stones.
57:15
SPEAKER_05: You know, when Bill Wyman left, they don't they don't put Daryl Jones in the pictures.
57:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
57:18
SPEAKER_05: It's just those guys.
57:19
SPEAKER_05: It's just, you know, it's just wow no.
57:20
SPEAKER_05: It's just a weird, it's just a weird.
57:21
SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
57:22
SPEAKER_09: I don't know why you can't just be like, hey, we got a new guy.
57:24
SPEAKER_09: He's out of the back.
57:25
SPEAKER_09: This is this is a new guy.
57:26
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
57:28
SPEAKER_09: This is it.
57:28
SPEAKER_09: This is what he looks like.
57:30
SPEAKER_05: Right.
57:31
SPEAKER_09: Look, he's real.
57:33
SPEAKER_05: Is it a management decision or something?
57:35
SPEAKER_05: It's gotta, it's gotta be a marketing decision.
57:37
SPEAKER_05: I don't know, man.
57:38
SPEAKER_09: I but I wonder how much of it's an ego thing.
57:41
SPEAKER_09: It can't be is it an ego thing?
57:42
SPEAKER_05: Oh, why would how would it be an ego thing?
57:44
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
57:44
SPEAKER_09: That's I think it's just is it just just trying to like continue what people they think people want?
57:51
SPEAKER_05: I I I don't know.
57:52
SPEAKER_09: I mean, because we're all we're adults, we can understand if somebody leaves the band or you replace them, we get it.
57:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
57:59
SPEAKER_09: You know.
58:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
58:01
SPEAKER_05: People need to.
58:01
SPEAKER_05: You know, other bands have done that.
58:03
SPEAKER_05: Other bands have replaced members and taken pictures with the new guy.
58:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
58:07
SPEAKER_05: Hey, look, hey, it's the new guy.
58:09
SPEAKER_05: Oh, we know what year this comes from because it's got this bass player, not that bass player.
58:12
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
58:13
SPEAKER_09: You know, it's like it's like Spinal Tap.
58:15
SPEAKER_09: I mean, they had a new drummer every time, right?
58:17
SPEAKER_09: You know, it's come on.
58:20
SPEAKER_05: So I don't know.
58:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean it was yeah, strange.
58:23
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, that was cool.
58:24
SPEAKER_05: 15 musicians that these bands want you to forget from Society of Rock.
58:27
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, there was a couple there I didn't know about.
58:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, me too.
58:29
SPEAKER_05: I didn't even know that uh uh Black Sabbath had a keyboard player.
58:33
SPEAKER_09: Why they must must have kept them like under the you know that like those those uh the grates there.
58:38
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, he just he's like he's like he's like peering through the grates and he's like, where are they?
58:44
SPEAKER_09: What am I supposed to be playing?
58:45
SPEAKER_05: A C I opened up, you know, you were still talking, I know, but I opened up the uh the segment on the uh alphabet.
58:56
SPEAKER_09: Um it's like at the Grammys when they start playing the music.
58:59
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
58:59
SPEAKER_09: I was playing you out.
59:01
SPEAKER_09: Country Legends Alphabet.
59:02
SPEAKER_06: Well it's time to shut up, Doug.
59:05
SPEAKER_06: Oh, is that all it takes?
59:06
SPEAKER_06: Maybe I should just get some music in the city.
59:12
SPEAKER_09: I guess my segment's over.
59:13
SPEAKER_05: BeckFeiner, uh Country Legends Alphabet, and the letter for today is R, yes.
59:18
SPEAKER_05: Uh I believe it's R because it's after Q?
59:20
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
59:20
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
59:20
SPEAKER_05: Yes, yes, yes.
59:21
SPEAKER_09: And R is after Q then, yes, that's where we're at.
59:24
SPEAKER_05: So uh Country Legend uh starts with R.
59:28
SPEAKER_05: Ronnie Milsap.
59:29
SPEAKER_05: First name starts with R.
59:30
SPEAKER_05: It's not Ronnie Milsap.
59:31
SPEAKER_05: Not Ronnie Milsap?
59:32
SPEAKER_05: It's female.
59:32
SPEAKER_09: Oh, it's female.
59:34
SPEAKER_05: First name starts with R.
59:36
SPEAKER_05: Uh belongs in this book, I believe.
59:40
unknown: R.
59:41
SPEAKER_05: Female.
59:42
SPEAKER_09: Reba, Reba McIntyre.
59:43
SPEAKER_05: Reba McIntyre.
59:44
SPEAKER_05: You're absolutely right.
59:45
SPEAKER_05: Good job.
59:45
SPEAKER_05: Uh R is for Reba McIntyre.
59:47
SPEAKER_05: In a career spanning more than 45 years, this singer, songwriter, and actress from Oklahoma has released 33 studio albums, selling more than 75 million records worldwide.
59:59
SPEAKER_05: With 24 number one singles, it's no wonder she's known as the Queen of Country.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_05: I didn't know she was known as the Queen of Country.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if she's the Queen of Country.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if I would say that either.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_05: Maybe the princess.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_05: She's definitely a legend.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_05: Oh, definitely.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_09: She definitely belongs in the And she still looks great, man.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_09: She does.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_09: I mean, she must be going to Dolly Parton's doctor.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_05: I was gonna say she's paid a lot of money for it, but she does look good.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_09: So she's got a new TV show.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_05: Does she?
1:00:25
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I didn't know that.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_05: I liked her sitcom.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_09: I don't know if it's a TV show or a movie.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_09: I think it's a TV show.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_05: I liked her sitcom Reba.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_05: That was a good show.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_09: That was a pretty good show.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_05: So let's do the Beatles.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_05: Let's see.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_05: R.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_05: R.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_05: Can I get a clue?
1:00:48
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_05: It's the second letter.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_09: No.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_09: It's the it's the second, it's the first letter of the second word of the song.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's the first letter of the second word.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_05: Uh nope.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_05: I got nothing.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_09: Lovely read it.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_09: Oh, lovely read.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_05: Did I put Lovely Reader in that book?
1:01:06
SPEAKER_05: They did.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_05: I'm not sure I would call that one legendary beater song.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_09: There's so many better ones.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_05: Really?
1:01:12
SPEAKER_05: That start with R?
1:01:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_05: Revol Revolver.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_09: No, I can't.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_05: Even if you even if you if you pulled a Beck Finer and said Eleanor Rigby, that would be a better sign.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_05: That would have been way better.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_05: That would have been better than that one.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_07: Friggin' A!
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SPEAKER_09: What's wrong with you?
1:01:34
SPEAKER_09: Why do I have to get angry?
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_09: Not directed at you.
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SPEAKER_09: Okay.
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unknown: Okay.
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SPEAKER_09: Okay.
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SPEAKER_09: R is for Lovey Rita.
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SPEAKER_09: From royalty to meter maids.
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SPEAKER_09: The Beatles honor girls from all walks of life.
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SPEAKER_09: This lively tune about a parking warden.
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SPEAKER_09: Well, tow your heart away.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_09: What the frick?
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SPEAKER_09: What?
1:02:07
SPEAKER_06: Because it's a meter maid.
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SPEAKER_06: Tow your heart away.
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SPEAKER_09: With its jug band bass and ragtime piano playfulness.
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SPEAKER_09: Lovely Rita, metermaid.
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SPEAKER_09: Where would uh I be without you?
1:02:21
SPEAKER_09: I'm sorry.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_09: She's hit or miss sometimes.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_09: I know.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_09: Just so bad.
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SPEAKER_09: Yep.
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SPEAKER_09: But the picture's kind of cool.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah?
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SPEAKER_09: No.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_09: Cool.
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SPEAKER_02: Alright.
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SPEAKER_05: You say that every time.
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SPEAKER_05: I wonder if people actually think that you think it's saxomophones.
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SPEAKER_09: At this point, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_05: I was in there in the KMH talking to Chris the other day.
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SPEAKER_05: Nice.
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SPEAKER_05: And you know, leafing through.
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SPEAKER_05: And uh he's doing very well with vinyl, by the way.
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SPEAKER_05: So what I picked up, so I have I have a lot of foreigner albums.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_05: Um actually I have I think I have two of the same album.
1:05:43
SPEAKER_05: Because I So a lot is two?
1:05:45
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_05: What I'm saying is I have I have like two of one album because I bought one and then I may have forgotten that I bought it and I've got it.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_05: I did that one in Chicago.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_09: I I was like I was in I can't remember when which one it was.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_09: And then I went, I was like, it was there maybe like a couple weeks later, I was like, oh man, Chicago's and then I got home and I was like, hey, wait a second.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_05: So I told him I was gonna return it.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_09: So I gave it to my sister.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_05: I I never did return it.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_05: So I still I still have two of them.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_05: But the one there's a foreigner album I didn't have, and it's from the eighties.
1:06:19
SPEAKER_05: Um that was uh not a huge hit for them, but I definitely remember Oh, I remember that album.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_05: Do you remember um Johnny Moore?
1:06:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:06:27
SPEAKER_05: I went over to John Johnny Moore's house one day back in sixth grade, I think.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_05: And he was playing this album on cassette, Agent Provocator.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_05: Um this has um I Wanna Know What Love Is.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the big album.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_05: The big, yeah.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_05: And then that was Yesterday.
1:06:45
SPEAKER_05: That was also a good song.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_05: Do you remember that song?
1:06:47
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if I remember that song.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_05: Uh I don't think I have it on uh I don't have it have it in my iTunes, but um you'll rem you'll remember it.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_05: No problem.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_05: I really dug it, dug that song because um I that's one song I remember hearing at Johnny Moore's house, actually, and going, wow, this is pretty cool.
1:07:05
SPEAKER_05: Now Foreigner.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_09: Lou Graham or Lou Reed?
1:07:10
SPEAKER_09: Lou Graham.
1:07:11
SPEAKER_09: Right.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah!
1:07:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah I love this song.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_05: That was yesterday.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_09: Yes, I love this song, man.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_05: Um they also have a song called called Tooth and Nail, which I think was released.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_05: But I didn't have this album, so perfect.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_05: This was uh an easy pickup for me.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_09: That's a no-brainer.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, this, yeah.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_05: Right?
1:07:37
SPEAKER_05: Come on, man.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_05: Great song.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_05: That voice too Luke Graham.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_01: Let you get away with me every night and every day.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, I'm gonna put that away.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_05: Great song.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'm gonna see if I can fit that back in my stash over here without breaking anything.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_05: Joey.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_05: It goes in F for foreigner.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I have that.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, see, I didn't have this on LP.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I think because I snaked it.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_09: You what?
1:08:15
SPEAKER_09: I snaked it from you.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_09: Chris got it in and I and I got it there, and you were like, you were to like there the next day and oh, is that what happened?
1:08:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_05: Oh, this one has a scratch on it too.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_05: Not too not too bad though.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_05: Haven't played it yet.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_05: But this is uh Van Halen.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_05: Um Fair Warning.
1:08:34
SPEAKER_09: Which is Which is a pretty great album.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and it's Is this the dark one?
1:08:40
SPEAKER_09: It is dark.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's a little dark.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_05: It's got mean streets and uh um what's well uh Unchained and Push Comes to Show.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_05: I guess it's not dark, but it's darker.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's it's a darker, yeah.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_09: As far as what they weren't, you know, coming out with before that.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's a darker album.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_05: Um and definitely a 70s uh or early 80s.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_05: It's definitely early 80s.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because what's that one foot out the door?
1:09:07
SPEAKER_05: Uh was it one foot out the door that's very uh it's the it's very synth yeah, yeah.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_05: Um Sunday Afternoon in the park.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_09: Was that a that's a that's a instrumental.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_05: Was that an answer to uh Chicago's Saturday in the park?
1:09:20
SPEAKER_09: Could be.
1:09:21
SPEAKER_09: You know, that's a misunderstood love song.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_09: Right.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_09: That was so stupid.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_05: Couldn't believe it.
1:09:28
SPEAKER_05: That was dumb.
1:09:28
SPEAKER_05: That was dumb.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_05: Uh so there.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_05: So we did our sponsors, and now it's time to climb the wall of tunes.
1:09:34
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_04: Let's do this.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_09: I'm not paranoid or anything, but is this still recording?
1:09:48
SPEAKER_05: Yes, it is.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_05: Okay, good.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_05: Okay, good.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_05: We're good.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_05: Because I keep knocking it over.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_05: Is that why you should?
1:09:53
SPEAKER_05: You know, we should we should velcro it to the whatever that's sitting on.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_05: Or you know, I should uh get a longer headphone cord.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_05: Well, that would work too, yeah.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_05: That's that's why because that's why it keeps coming off the mystery is solved.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_05: You do the hip hop legends alphabet, and I'm gonna take a look at Jinxies.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_05: Alright.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_05: Alright.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_09: What are we doing?
1:10:10
SPEAKER_09: Uh I can't get to the page.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_09: I can't work the page.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_04: Okay, interesting.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_09: Oh, cool! R is for Rakeem.
1:10:25
SPEAKER_09: Real hip-hop heads say Rakeem was one of the best to ever do it.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_09: To me, he invented the flow, rap superstar Ice T said.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_09: This legend introduced more complicated rhyming and ra writing to rap.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_09: He and Eric B's paid in full has been called the best rap album of all time.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_09: Eric B and Rakeem.
1:10:44
SPEAKER_05: I don't think I've ever heard of him.
1:10:46
SPEAKER_09: Really?
1:10:46
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah, he's pretty great.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_09: He definitely belongs in the book.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_05: So I have uh I have an album.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_05: You sound unsure.
1:10:59
SPEAKER_05: Um I don't know that I have anything from this album in my iTunes.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_05: Uh I mean I I because I have the album.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_05: Let's see.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I might have one.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_05: I do have one.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_05: One song?
1:11:16
SPEAKER_05: Nope, two songs.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:11:18
SPEAKER_05: So I need I need I need more.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna go to YouTube.
1:11:22
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, um, I have an album, so let the guessing begin.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_05: Is it docking?
1:11:30
SPEAKER_05: No, it's not.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_09: It's close though.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_09: Is it close to docking?
1:11:34
SPEAKER_07: Well, sort of.
1:11:35
SPEAKER_09: I mean sort of docking.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_09: Is it sweet and lynch?
1:11:39
SPEAKER_09: Nope.
1:11:40
SPEAKER_09: Nope.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_09: Uh okay.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_09: Uh is it well is it a solo artist or is it a band?
1:11:46
SPEAKER_09: It's a band.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_09: It is a band, okay.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_09: Rock band?
1:11:48
SPEAKER_09: Uh yes.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_09: Uh height of popularity.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_05: Uh late 80s, early 90s.
1:11:54
SPEAKER_09: Oh, okay.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_09: So uh it's not knocking.
1:11:59
SPEAKER_09: Nope.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_09: But close to knocking.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_09: Well.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_09: Same ish.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_05: Um like a guitar vote virtuoso.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:12:11
SPEAKER_05: And we actually talked about them.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_05: White Line.
1:12:14
SPEAKER_03: It Yes, it is.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_06: Was it did we do it on the podcast or did you do it before?
1:12:21
SPEAKER_09: We were talking about, we were talking because we were talking about Frontier Records and how Mike Tramp is coming out with the songs of White Lion with other musicians.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_09: Right.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_09: So then last week I told you that you can get the first three White Lion albums, uh Pride, uh Big Game, and Main Attraction.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_05: On iTunes.
1:12:39
SPEAKER_09: On iTunes for 12 bucks.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_05: All three of them.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_05: All three of them.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_05: Together.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_05: Together.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
1:12:45
SPEAKER_09: Because I did that and I was like, I I started playing it through.
1:12:48
SPEAKER_09: Because it starts from, you know, goes through all the you can hear the change.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_09: From first album, there's a there's a definite change in the second, but the third album is so well done.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, main attraction.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, this is the one that I picked was main attraction.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_09: That is such it.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_09: I mean, as as far as production goes, it may be the best one of the three.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_09: Uh one of my favorite songs on there is War Song.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_05: Uh friggin' amazing.
1:13:17
SPEAKER_05: Let me let me let me pull that up because that's one of the ones I don't have.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_05: You know, I uh it's funny that I don't have this album in my iTunes, really.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_09: Um which one has it um I can't remember if it's the second one or the third one.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_09: If my mind is evil.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_09: That's a little bit on big game.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_09: Right.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_09: And so the other one I'm thinking of is um Dang it.
1:13:44
SPEAKER_05: I don't know that one.
1:13:45
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, this is War Song.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, this is a great song.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_09: He has a he has a thing with, you know, military themed songs.
1:13:56
SPEAKER_09: I don't know what it is.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_09: But it is.
1:13:58
SPEAKER_09: But this is probably the best one.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_05: This was ninety-one.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_05: This was right before Grizz was about to take hold.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_05: Not to change the subject.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_09: This had to be uh a reaction to Desert Storm.
1:14:59
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I'm sure.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_05: What do we find?
1:15:00
SPEAKER_09: Because it had to be it had to have been written in 90 if it came out in 91.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_05: So not to change the subject.
1:15:06
SPEAKER_05: But have you seen do you follow Nuno Betoncourt on uh Instagram or I do not.
1:15:11
SPEAKER_05: Uh he's been teasing some stuff.
1:15:13
SPEAKER_05: So Xtreme's got a new one coming out.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah, we talked about that.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
1:15:17
SPEAKER_09: That's gonna be awesome.
1:15:19
SPEAKER_05: Uh so let me play the the two songs that I do have in my iTunes.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_05: Uh, of course, this one.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_05: Ah, this is Broken Heart.
1:15:30
SPEAKER_05: Broken Heart, yeah.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_05: This is a great song.
1:15:39
SPEAKER_05: I love how it starts.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_09: It starts sweet, and then, you know, it's like uh it's gonna be one of those and then it just rocks.
1:15:53
SPEAKER_09: Kicks blood is what it does.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_03: Beetle Bravo, man.
1:16:14
SPEAKER_01: We've talked about it before, but it's just a lot of people.
1:16:53
SPEAKER_07: Well, it's funny you mention that.
1:16:59
SPEAKER_07: Rainbow?
1:17:00
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_09: Well, there was because I mentioned um If my mind is evil.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_09: Sounds an awful lot like a Metallica's um uh Am I Evil?
1:17:53
SPEAKER_05: I can hear it.
1:17:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_09: It's very metallic-ish.
1:17:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I can hear it.
1:17:57
SPEAKER_09: There's another song on that album.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_09: It's right before that one.
1:18:00
SPEAKER_05: Right before if my mind is evil?
1:18:02
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_09: Uh nope.
1:18:04
SPEAKER_09: Before that.
1:18:07
SPEAKER_05: Let's get crazy.
1:18:08
SPEAKER_05: This is not that one.
1:18:09
SPEAKER_05: This this starts with the the end of all you need is rock and roll.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_09: No, it's not this one.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_05: Is it what does it sound like?
1:18:19
SPEAKER_09: It's it's it's like, you know, I got my blue jeans and my work shirt and uh I can't think of the name of it.
1:18:25
SPEAKER_09: Living on the edge?
1:18:26
SPEAKER_09: Living on the edge, yes.
1:18:30
SPEAKER_09: This sounds like another song, but I can't wait for it.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_09: Doesn't that sound like something?
1:18:45
SPEAKER_05: Well, that little riff right there like that.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_03: Alright, now we're gonna go back to this album that I got.
1:19:02
SPEAKER_03: This this is the only other song I have my eye to.
1:19:08
SPEAKER_05: This is a good song, too.
1:19:12
SPEAKER_01: The combo!
1:19:14
SPEAKER_09: Oh, this is uh farewell to you?
1:19:16
SPEAKER_09: Nope.
1:19:16
SPEAKER_09: No, uh Love Don't Come Easy.
1:19:17
SPEAKER_09: Love Don't Come Easy, yeah.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, good song.
1:19:55
SPEAKER_09: I just I just can't I can't fathom that he's going to replace these guys.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_05: I know.
1:20:05
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
1:20:06
SPEAKER_09: It just it bothers me.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:20:10
SPEAKER_09: And it shouldn't, because you know, but I love the white lions.
1:20:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, me too.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_09: One of my favorite memories is when Pride came out.
1:20:17
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
1:20:18
SPEAKER_09: We went we we drove to Florida that fall.
1:20:22
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_09: That's all I listened to the entire trip down to the album Pride.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I listened to Forward, backwards, you know, I knew that album.
1:20:32
SPEAKER_05: I'm the same way, like uh Lady of the Valley.
1:20:35
SPEAKER_05: Um I mean That's one of my favorite songs, and it was never like a big song.
1:20:39
SPEAKER_09: No, but it's one of my favorites of all time.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_05: Don't give up.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_09: Don't give up.
1:20:43
SPEAKER_09: Don't give up, don't give up uh Tell Me, I'm Hungry.
1:20:47
SPEAKER_09: I mean, so many great songs.
1:20:49
SPEAKER_05: Here's something you may not know.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_05: So off this album made attraction.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:20:54
SPEAKER_05: Which technically would be their fourth album because they have an album before Pride.
1:20:58
SPEAKER_05: It was like an independent release.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_05: I was about to say nobody knows that one.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_05: Um this so this album came out in '91, right?
1:21:04
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_05: So this is uh a cover of Blue Monday.
1:21:08
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:21:09
SPEAKER_05: And it's dedication to Stevie Ray Vaughn.
1:21:11
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:21:11
SPEAKER_05: Did you know that?
1:21:12
SPEAKER_09: Oh, it that makes sense.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:21:15
SPEAKER_09: I didn't know that, but it makes sense because every time I listen to it, it's like it's very Stevie, Stevie Ray Von-ish.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's a bluesie.
1:21:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:21:22
SPEAKER_05: It's uh um, because Stevie Ray Von had died in a helicopter crash the August before.
1:21:27
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:21:27
SPEAKER_05: Like in 1990.
1:21:29
SPEAKER_05: 1990, yeah.
1:21:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's this this is all Stevie.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:21:37
SPEAKER_05: So this was in dedication talk.
1:21:39
SPEAKER_05: Actually, it's Blue Monday, does it?
1:21:41
SPEAKER_05: Is there any singing on it?
1:21:42
SPEAKER_05: Is this an instrumental?
1:21:43
SPEAKER_08: It's all instrumental.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_05: That's what I thought.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:21:47
SPEAKER_05: And didn't uh the bass player James Lomenzo, didn't he go on to play for like Megadeth or something?
1:21:52
SPEAKER_09: Did he?
1:21:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:21:55
SPEAKER_09: No, he couldn't play.
1:21:57
SPEAKER_09: Because it's always been Dave Elson until just recently.
1:22:00
SPEAKER_05: Then it's somebody like that.
1:22:01
SPEAKER_05: Hold on.
1:22:02
SPEAKER_05: Let me see.
1:22:04
SPEAKER_05: Cause I know that I've seen his name somewhere before.
1:22:09
SPEAKER_05: Let's see.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_05: No?
1:22:18
SPEAKER_05: He played for Megadeth.
1:22:19
SPEAKER_05: Did he really?
1:22:20
SPEAKER_05: 2006 to 2010?
1:22:22
SPEAKER_05: Oh, so it was just recently.
1:22:23
SPEAKER_05: And 2021 to the to present.
1:22:25
SPEAKER_05: Oh wow.
1:22:26
SPEAKER_05: I didn't know.
1:22:27
SPEAKER_05: So he's back with him since Elephant's Gone.
1:22:29
SPEAKER_09: Right.
1:22:29
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
1:22:30
SPEAKER_09: I didn't know it, but I didn't know he was uh with him before.
1:22:32
SPEAKER_05: Let's see.
1:22:33
SPEAKER_05: From February 2006 to February 2010, Lemenzo was the bassist for Megadeth.
1:22:38
SPEAKER_05: The first Megadeth record he performed on was 2007's United Abominations.
1:22:42
SPEAKER_05: He also performed on the band's next album, Endgame.
1:22:45
SPEAKER_05: And on February 2010, it was announced that original Megadeth bassist Dave Ellifsen replaced Lemenzo.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_05: August 11th, 2021, it was announced that Lemenzo had returned to Megadeth as Elfsen's replacement for the tour.
1:22:58
SPEAKER_05: Ellifson had been fired from the band three months prior.
1:23:03
SPEAKER_05: Megadeth confirmed in 2022 that Lomenzo was again a permanent member of the band.
1:23:09
SPEAKER_05: So he's with Megadeth now.
1:23:10
SPEAKER_09: Okay, so he's there.
1:23:11
SPEAKER_09: Alright, I didn't know that.
1:23:12
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:23:13
SPEAKER_09: So he doesn't he doesn't seem like the Megadeth type.
1:23:16
SPEAKER_09: He doesn't.
1:23:17
SPEAKER_05: You know?
1:23:18
SPEAKER_05: But you know, whatever.
1:23:19
SPEAKER_09: But he's a great bass player.
1:23:20
SPEAKER_09: No doubt.
1:23:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and it's it's a it's a gig.
1:23:22
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, definitely a gig.
1:23:24
SPEAKER_09: Right.
1:23:24
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:23:25
SPEAKER_05: So there you go.
1:23:26
SPEAKER_05: That's the uh that's the album of the uh of the week.
1:23:28
SPEAKER_05: Uh White Lion's main attraction.
1:23:31
SPEAKER_09: That's a that's a great I mean, production-wise, that's probably the best of the White Lion albums.
1:23:36
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:23:37
SPEAKER_09: And I think the song, you know, I don't know, he's the songwriting is it gets better.
1:23:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:23:44
SPEAKER_05: I and I want to see.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_09: And it matures from the first album, because the first one was more like you know, it's it's you know, catchy, poppy.
1:23:55
SPEAKER_05: But it's all guitar.
1:23:56
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's a lot of fun.
1:23:57
SPEAKER_05: It was all guitar, man.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_09: You know.
1:23:59
SPEAKER_09: This one is this is probably the more mature of the three, so I want to see all songs written by Vito Brata and Mike Trapp.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_05: All of them.
1:24:08
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, makes sense.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, they just kept getting better.
1:24:11
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I I you know, if they hadn't, you know.
1:24:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's it is such a shame.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I mean, they were such a great band.
1:24:19
SPEAKER_05: I agree.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_05: Uh so there you have it.
1:24:23
SPEAKER_05: So get out and get you some white lion.
1:24:25
SPEAKER_05: Uh, if you're into that.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_05: Three albums for 12 bucks on IT.
1:24:28
SPEAKER_05: If you're into that kind of thing.
1:24:29
SPEAKER_09: You know, it is really good.
1:24:30
SPEAKER_09: I mean, it's worth it, man.
1:24:31
SPEAKER_05: It is.
1:24:32
SPEAKER_09: It was really good.
1:24:33
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
1:24:34
SPEAKER_09: Because I only had the because I I looked in my iTunes and I was like, I only have the best of white lion.
1:24:39
SPEAKER_09: I don't I have the because I've got Pride and Big Game on tape.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_09: I think I have main attraction on tape too.
1:24:45
SPEAKER_05: Really?
1:24:45
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
1:24:46
SPEAKER_09: I have all three on cassette.
1:24:47
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:24:47
SPEAKER_05: So I was like, I have I have Pride on uh I downloaded it digitally.
1:24:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:24:53
SPEAKER_05: I used to have it on cassette.
1:24:55
SPEAKER_05: I think I still do have it on cassette somewhere.
1:24:57
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I got it somewhere too.
1:24:58
SPEAKER_05: Um, and I had uh big game on CD and main attraction on C D, but I also had the greatest hits on C D.
1:25:06
SPEAKER_09: Well I had the greatest hits on C D, but I I never had any of the three on I only had them on cassette.
1:25:11
SPEAKER_09: I never got them in uh on C D so But now I got them on a cube and store.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_05: Remind me to show you I I saved a reel on Instagram uh from a a page called Rerun the Eighties.
1:25:22
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:25:22
SPEAKER_05: Um that uh sums up my life in the eighties pretty much.
1:25:26
SPEAKER_05: Alrighty.
1:25:27
SPEAKER_05: Um because it's uh everything from well, I'll just show it to you.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_05: Uh if you should let's see.
1:25:35
SPEAKER_05: If you want to see it, go to uh Rerun the Eighties on Instagram.
1:25:39
SPEAKER_05: Uh and I want to tell you if there's a title for it or anything.
1:25:43
SPEAKER_05: So just one second here.
1:25:45
SPEAKER_05: I want to go to my saved reels.
1:25:49
SPEAKER_05: And this one.
1:25:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, of course the internet.
1:25:54
SPEAKER_05: We're in the basement, so it's not uh shining feeling.
1:25:58
SPEAKER_05: Oh there we go, let's see.
1:26:00
SPEAKER_05: Um It says things I miss doing in the 80s.
1:26:10
SPEAKER_05: That's the that's the tagline.
1:26:12
SPEAKER_05: What do you miss?
1:26:14
SPEAKER_05: Um here dog.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_05: I'll just hand this to you.
1:26:18
SPEAKER_05: You don't have to play the audio.
1:26:21
SPEAKER_05: Because it's Christopher Cross.
1:26:24
SPEAKER_05: The music is Christopher Cross.
1:26:25
SPEAKER_05: But just listen, just look at it.
1:26:30
SPEAKER_09: I think I've seen it, have you?
1:26:33
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I think I've seen this.
1:26:39
SPEAKER_09: I was like, this is my life.
1:26:43
SPEAKER_09: MGV with a walkman.
1:26:45
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_09: And the goodies on cassette, pizza hat, I'll play a cuber.
1:26:50
SPEAKER_09: Oh walkman.
1:26:51
SPEAKER_05: And with the with the pencil and the cassette tape, did you have the guitar?
1:26:54
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
1:26:56
SPEAKER_09: Playing Mario Brothers.
1:26:58
SPEAKER_05: Look what look what cassette it is, too.
1:27:00
SPEAKER_09: Oh, one of those uh View Masters.
1:27:05
SPEAKER_09: Skateboarding was a band.
1:27:07
SPEAKER_09: I didn't have that game.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_09: Oh, garbage pale kids.
1:27:12
SPEAKER_09: Quick in the old tin can where you had to use your spoon to get the thing over.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_09: There we go, the pencil and the cassette.
1:27:19
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:27:20
SPEAKER_09: TV guy.
1:27:22
SPEAKER_09: Had a pencil box.
1:27:24
SPEAKER_09: Oh, one of those uh the things you wrote on and you lifted the sheet and it disappeared.
1:27:29
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:27:29
SPEAKER_05: You didn't mention the trapper keeper.
1:27:30
SPEAKER_05: Remember the trapper keeper?
1:27:31
SPEAKER_05: Oh, the trapper keeper, yeah.
1:27:32
SPEAKER_09: Everybody had a trapper keeper.
1:27:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:27:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:27:35
SPEAKER_05: No, I was I just thought that was great.
1:27:36
SPEAKER_05: I don't know why.
1:27:37
SPEAKER_09: That's that is like ultimate 80s right here.
1:27:40
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:27:40
SPEAKER_09: I remember a lot of that stuff too, man.
1:27:42
SPEAKER_05: So that's it.
1:27:44
SPEAKER_05: Episode 139.
1:27:45
SPEAKER_05: I missed the 80s.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_05: Uh me do too.
1:27:47
SPEAKER_05: Me do too.
1:27:48
SPEAKER_05: Me do too.
1:27:49
SPEAKER_07: Me like 80s.
1:27:51
SPEAKER_07: Me do too.
1:27:52
SPEAKER_06: Me do to What did we say?
1:27:56
SPEAKER_06: This was uh uh uh Dobro Indig.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_06: Redoo.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_07: Dobro andery do.
1:28:02
SPEAKER_07: I'm Dobro.
1:28:03
SPEAKER_07: I'm Nigerido.
1:28:06
SPEAKER_09: Well, last year last week we were puttering Binks.
1:28:11
SPEAKER_09: I still like that.
1:28:14
SPEAKER_09: I'm gonna use that as like a pseudonym.
1:28:16
SPEAKER_09: What I don't even remember what that was from.
1:28:18
SPEAKER_09: It was last week.
1:28:19
SPEAKER_09: I don't remember what it was from.
1:28:20
SPEAKER_09: We were talking about uh Pat Benatar, the song Invincible was from the Oh, and it was from the movie Legend of B uh.
1:28:26
SPEAKER_09: Did you watch it?
1:28:27
SPEAKER_09: No, I haven't watched it.
1:28:28
SPEAKER_09: I haven't seen it.
1:28:29
SPEAKER_09: It's not listed anywhere.
1:28:31
SPEAKER_05: Is that on Amazon Prime?
1:28:32
SPEAKER_09: I haven't seen it on there.
1:28:37
SPEAKER_09: Maybe it's not on there.
1:28:38
SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_05: I don't know either.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_05: I was gonna try and find it for you, but maybe I'll do that another time.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_05: Um so yeah.
1:28:46
SPEAKER_05: Episode 139.
1:28:48
SPEAKER_05: Done.
1:28:48
SPEAKER_05: Done.
1:28:49
SPEAKER_05: Done.
1:28:50
SPEAKER_05: Um, I guess until next time.
1:28:53
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, we'll have uh we'll talk about Joko's wedding, how that goes.
1:28:56
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:28:56
SPEAKER_09: I'm excited.
1:28:57
SPEAKER_09: I'm gonna get smashed.
1:28:58
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, right.
1:29:01
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
1:29:03
SPEAKER_07: Hulk smash.
1:29:06
SPEAKER_07: Shall I ever love you like I do, Joker?
1:29:14
SPEAKER_06: Oh, we should do that.
1:29:16
SPEAKER_09: Should we have I I think he would like literally kill us if we did that.
1:29:24
SPEAKER_09: I mean, literally if that was have us put to death.
1:29:26
SPEAKER_09: I mean that I think that would just be done.
1:29:29
SPEAKER_09: You know, he would just like disown us forever.
1:29:32
SPEAKER_06: I think we should you should do that and have Shango, oil check, oil check! Yeah, which's an inside joke, too.
1:29:41
SPEAKER_06: That is a very good idea.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_06: We can get into that one.
1:29:43
SPEAKER_09: Not really, but uh Joe Co knows what we're talking about.
1:29:47
SPEAKER_07: Oil check, oil check.
1:29:50
SPEAKER_07: Bread's done.
1:29:56
SPEAKER_07: Oh my gosh.
1:29:58
SPEAKER_05: All right.
1:29:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so the we'll have uh we'll have complete details about uh Josh's wedding on the next episode.
1:30:04
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and then maybe uh maybe we'll go back to our old stealth, you know, old stuff, old old stuff.com.
1:30:13
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
1:30:14
SPEAKER_08: Maybe they'll have something on there.
1:30:16
SPEAKER_08: It'll be great.
1:30:17
SPEAKER_08: Yay.
1:30:22
SPEAKER_08: You are Digeridoo.
1:30:23
SPEAKER_08: I am Digeridoo.
1:30:25
SPEAKER_08: And Tiger2.
1:30:27
SPEAKER_08: And Dobro2.
1:30:28
SPEAKER_08: And DobroTwoo Digeridoo and Dobo Dobro2.
1:30:31
SPEAKER_08: There we go.
1:30:32
SPEAKER_08: That's the name.
1:30:33
SPEAKER_08: That's the name.
1:30:34
SPEAKER_07: We got it.
1:30:35
SPEAKER_09: Done.
1:30:36
SPEAKER_09: I love how we include everybody in the process of how we name our episodes.
1:30:40
SPEAKER_09: You know, most episodes most podcasts they have actually like, oh, you know, we're talking about, you know, the oh the week on Wall Street.
1:30:47
SPEAKER_09: Uh, you know.
1:30:49
SPEAKER_05: No, not us.
1:30:50
SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of people, a lot of them do like show notes.
1:30:52
SPEAKER_05: You know, which this is what we're gonna talk about, but we don't do that.
1:30:55
SPEAKER_09: We don't even have show notes.
1:30:57
SPEAKER_09: No, we don't have anything.
1:30:58
SPEAKER_09: We don't have links, we don't have show notes.
1:31:00
SPEAKER_09: We have some hashtags.
1:31:01
SPEAKER_05: Legend of Billy Jean is on Amazon Prime.
1:31:03
SPEAKER_05: Oh, it is, okay.
1:31:03
SPEAKER_05: Uh$2.99 to rent.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_09: $2.99?
1:31:07
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:31:08
SPEAKER_09: Man, it's so expensive.
1:31:10
SPEAKER_05: Movie gallery used to be more than that.
1:31:12
SPEAKER_05: I know, right?
1:31:14
SPEAKER_06: People are like, movie gallery?
1:31:16
SPEAKER_09: What's that?
1:31:16
SPEAKER_09: What's movie?
1:31:17
SPEAKER_09: What do you what is this movie gallery you speak of?
1:31:21
SPEAKER_07: All right, until next time.
1:31:22
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SPEAKER_09: Scribble scribble.
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SPEAKER_09: It's a horsey.
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SPEAKER_00: I notice when you get to disliking someone, they ain't around for long either.