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From Sock Rules to Selling Open Cows · Ranch Wives Unsupervised

• Ranch Wives: said. Emotional attachment does not make you money. Because generally speaking, you're keeping that cow because she's young. I like her. she throws a big cow. she throws whatever it is. But then you gotta apply it to land and everything. Like why are you keeping this property when you could sell it and then go by farther out for half the price and get more acres? Okay, I have a question for you guys. Okay. How are you doing laundry? What do you mean by laundry? I love doing laundry. Laundry is also one of my more favorite. Okay, do you like washing it? Like what part of laundry do you love? I like hang drying. I love folding. I hate folding. And tidying it away and like putting it away. Like I organi I fold, listen, people, I fold my underwear very nice and it's all like lined up. Nah, mine's in a drawer. Just chucked. Mine's like a little basket with a lid, so nobody ain't seeing what's in there. I mine's like it's got like sort like IKEA sorters in it. So like I've got underwear on one side. Socks on the other. Yeah. But it's just like thrown like in there. Like they're not folded. No, I fold it. Okay. I fold Jorims. Do you have like a certain way that you fold it? Yeah, how about socks? yeah. I pair up every single sock and if they're p n like singles, I put them in a little pile inside the drawer so that If their mate is found? If their mate is found, then I put them together. And if it's not how long can a sock go in this drawer before it goes to the trash? You'd probably let it sit for a while. Like until you clean out the drawer next. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I hate folding socks. I'm not like three weeks and you're done. Like that's a little intense. Are you? No. I'm like a I fold my socks, but you will never everyone else mish mismatch socks. y I don't wear mismatched socks either. No. And David doesn't. But he doesn't fold socks. His everything, socks, underwear, everything. Straight into the bin, lids closed, done. Okay, I will fold socks, but like if they're the same brand. Like you know how Puma has like green and pink? yeah. It's the same brand, but I might have a green one and a pink one. No. no. That's wrong. I could care less I know for as feral and haphazard as I am, my socks have to match. It's very interesting. Who's looking at your socks? Everybody. I like Socks make your day. Have you ever noticed when I've wore mismatched socks? Yes. Yes. No, why would we say something? yeah, no, I have never cared about my socks. I could call you out on it. You know, you know what? You wouldn't be the first person to call me out. My mom has called me out. All of my cousins c like everybody calls me out. It has not changed my opinion on socks. Let me tell you something. Okay. No. And I gave birth to both of my kids. You wore socks? No, no, no. Well, I don't know. I don't remember. Probably. I don't know actually. Anyways, I made sure I had a new pair of socks for the day after. So I could put on a fresh brand new pair of socks because nothing feels better than a brand new pair of socks. That's valid. I could see that though. Yeah. I find socks No like bunchy crusty things going on. No. I h I don't love socks. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. I'm barefoot. Hate socks. I love socks. The only time I wear socks in summer when it's not like March to November is if I have to go out in public. And it's not socially acceptable to be running around in the grocery store bare feet. Yeah, that's not like. But I do go check my mail and bare feet. I'm trying to think. If I like my goodness. I have a tan line. I feel like I've got so do I have like a hiker tan line. Yeah. You can see I think there was a I have a sandal tan line. yeah, I do too. no, for socks I could absolutely care less. I probably should care. If if I'm like thinking about it, I probably grab a pair of like white socks over like the puma socks. But if I'm just like throwing on a pair of hikers out here. Yeah. Pff could care less. no. Could care less. My point with the conver with the actual question was like, do you sort your clothes? Yeah. Like darks, lights. darks and lights? No. Dirty jeans. Okay, here's an items here's the thing. Washing machines nowadays are not as bad and clothes probably like synthetic clothes. Clothes. Yeah. Like it doesn't none of my things have like none of my lights have gone dark because of any of the dark things I put in with it. I don't sort. Jorim's nasty, like oily stuff goes in with some of my stuff and it's fine. Do you wash your kitchen towels and dishcloths and stuff? With my underwear? With the rest of your laundry? No. I do not wash kitchen towels with my underwear. Do you wash them with Okay, but I assume your underwear goes with your clothes? So you do just a special like load for towels? Yeah, I do a special load for towels. okay. I go around the house and collect all the towels for one load. Okay, so my thing is we have it's like upstairs. I've got a laundry storter and it's got like you have a laundry sorter It's like three different It's got like three different wheels and it's got like three different baskets. Yes, yeah. So like my top one is generally like whites. Like white whites because I take them to town to wash because our dugout water has stained a lot of my whites and that's I just don't have whites. Yeah, fair. I I do have a few though that I purposely will take to town. The middle one is like town clothes or nice clothes. The bottom one is just farm clothes. But caveat, downstairs in the spare bedroom across from the main bathroom, is where all our like kitchen towels go there I have like a hamper in there. Yeah. Kitchen towels, any bathroom towels that are dirty go in there. But also if Keith has super dirty anything, it goes in there. With like the towel? With the towels. Interesting. Because here's the thing the grease isn't gonna stain the towels, and I can handle throwing out a couple towels. I will be pissed if it wrecks my jeans. Yeah. And because for some as I don't know if it's a mechanics thing. Yeah. But there has been times he has come home and is like seeped through his coveralls. Yeah. And it is like there's for me I know when he's gone back mechanicking because it's everything it's everything is greasy, everything is oily. Yeah. It's like a dirt. I yeah, I have like a pile of like Jorm's greasy clothes and it kinda just like piles up till we get a load and then I Yeah. So like that's like all sort it out of the towels. But if it goes in like say I miss a pair of pants and it goes in with the towels. Not the end. I don't really care. But I don't want it in my cloth like clothes, clothes. Do you have a washing machine lacing? yes. Okay. Yes I do. Woo Okay. She's thinking you didn't yeah. Since you guys wash your entire yeah. You guys took it out of the ho the old house, isn't it? That one right? Yeah. Yeah. okay, yeah, yeah. It's like right along the wall. Yeah. Across from across from the bathroom. Do you sort your kids laundry? I put my no, their I sort between David's and mine and the kids. Right. And then you give your kids their laundry and they sort their own? Yeah. Okay, yeah. Sometimes I fold it and then pass it up like in a stack of folded Right. Not sorted but folded. Mm-hmm. Up. Yeah. It's a lot to like 'cause the loft is pretty tiny, it's a lot to try and sort and fold and put away in their little crates. Cause they just each have two crates, I think, for their clothes. I actually don't go up there because I can't even sit up there without hitting my head. So Yeah. I don't actually go up there. You don't know what's up there. Something about. Yeah, I like I I used to sort all the time. Like everything. Whites, lights. Yeah. Darks. Nah. I got to a point. I probably did that when I was like first doing laundry. Yeah. And then I got to a point. I was like, this is In Germany we sorted our lights and darks. But I think that's just because the washing machine was like a thousand years old. Yeah, I don't know. I think it also depends on like I love doing laundry though. Like I put the kids to bed last night, put my headphones in, Jorim was still gone, and I just sorted laundry for like an hour. It was amazing. It was like it was relaxing. I like it when I have time to sit down and do it. If I'm doing it because I'm out of clothes and everything is chaotic and like whatever I can care a lot. That's like k I started doing this thing and I actually just asked Keith about this the other day. He like never folds some of his clothes. Just go into the hamper. They're not like right side in. They're like inside out. yeah, yeah. So I started doing this thing where I was like, if he if the shirt went in inside out and came out inside out, I would fold it inside out. Yeah, I socks. I do not go in and un inside out socks. I will not touch socks. If his if his pants are not drawers, I not that his pants normally are, but generally it's his shirts. I I've just quit doing it. And I thought if I quit doing it that that they would end up because I at one point in our marriage, like, just put it inside, like just put it right in and I'll wash it. Like it used to really bug me. He didn't care. So I was like, okay, well, if you're not gonna do it, I'm thinking I'm like, teaching him a lesson. Or like I don't even I don't actually even know what my point of was doing it. I was just annoyed and quit doing it the one day. And he's not once noticed. We're like, we're probably six months in. Yeah. Of me not doing it. So I noticed Nobody tell Keith. No, no, I literally said to him the other day. I was like, d do you even care that like your shirts are like inside out? He's gonna I just flip it over when I open it up. Well there you go. So I was like, okay, if you don't care, then I'm I don't care even I'm not because it drives it was driving me nuts to the point where I was like, I feel like a naggy wife. And then we just came to this like conclusion. But it's like such a funny thing to like. I don't even think about it. I always just right it. I don't know I'm not shirts I will, but I'm not touching socks. I also think this is because my mom was like, you need to it like perfect. Not even perfect, but I'm I feel like as a kid we had to have it inside right. Like in the right way, maybe. Yeah. I don't know if we did. Like I don't know where it came from, but at some point it just started driving me nuts. But I think it's because like three-quarters of his clothes were coming out inside out. Yeah. So I was spending all this time like. Right. I feel like I can't do this. And it was it like bugged me one day. She like peels it off and then chucks it in. I have no idea how like I don't know. It's funny. I would sooner most of the time because he's normally dirty. So if he pulls it off inside out, is it gonna get as stays? I think it does. The only thing is like his socks. But I run those through and then I right them and then run them through. Run them through again. Because I don't actually want to touch them like completely dirty. Yeah. That's but I'll run them through, right though, and then run them through again. Do you run them like when you so hold on. Are you inside are you making them right before you throw them in the load of laundry? No. After they come out. Yeah. And then she puts them in again. Okay, see what you're saying. yeah, socks on the No, I leave them inside out. But you wanna know what's funny? Is his nice shirt But how do you fold them? You just fold them the way you do regular socks. How do you fold socks? yeah, so do don't find What do you you don't fold socks? Well I fold socks. Yeah. No no no. What I mean is like ha doesn't it bother you though that they're inside out? They're not my socks. They're his socks. She's got a point. Yeah, I also don't Yeah, it bothers me, but also I'm like, you know what? I'm not dealing with this. That's I do not want to find the Does he wear them inside out? No. No, because he flips them. That's like Keith flips them. I mean I feel like he should because then the next time they would be the right way. Inside out? R right side in. There you go. Yeah. Whatever. You can have a system. I'm trying to think. I feel like Keith's town shirts, like his nice button-ups or anything like that. I will fold. I need to air dry those. I do air dry those too. I'm not allowed to Actually, no, there's there's certain ones that are more of a farm use button-up. Yeah. So on the dryer. Yeah. But like there's certain how nice bounce buttons I will air dry. I air dry and then I'll just put them in. But like And all's of Jorims jeans I need to air dry. No, Keith was a He won't let me. I used to st when we were first like together. When we were first together, I started like, I would pull everything out because I hardly dried any of my clothes. I would put hang dry almost everything. Especially when I worked in the office. Yeah. Nothing went through the dryer. Yeah. Keith threw everything. Everything including dress pants in the dryer. So you found a balance? We found a balance. Yes. If he didn't dry it before, like there's certain sweaters that was like, this should have been air-dried. Like nice sweaters. Like zip-ups, church shirts, whatever, that should have been air-dried. If he didn't, if he had it before we were married and it never got air-dried, then I will throw it in. But if we have acquired it since being married and has not been in the dryer, then you don't. Then you don't. But do you want to hear something so funny on this air-dry topic? He was given this absolutely gorgeous like Norwegian wool sweater. Had a lining. It was beautiful. Did you dry it? I did. You did? I didn't notice it. no. I think because it's wool, I can stretch it again. I haven't actually done it. Has it just been put to the side for like a year? I wore it. I've been wearing it. But he really likes it and it's so warm. Like you don't have to wear a jacket. Like it could be like probably minus twenty out. Yeah. And you wouldn't have to wear a jacket. Like it is so it's a gorgeous. But it fits you still. It fits me. But I was talking to an older lady, I think at church or somewhere, and she's like, if it's woolly, you can just like hang it. Yeah, can't you wet it? Get it wet, soaking wet, hang it. And it should stretch out. But the problem is the liner didn't shrink, just the wool shrunk. So that's why he quit wearing it is because the liner was like sticking out like this from the wool. Right. I cried he doesn't know this. he's maybe he does, I don't think so. I cried when I pulled it out of the dryer I had no idea it was in there. I don't know how I missed it. It must have been Just like in with a in something I don't know. It it just I felt so bad. Yeah. I was so it's gorgeous. Anyway stretch it out and if the lining's still too brig big, just bring it over and I'll fix it. Okay. I'm sure it can be fixed, but I've also enjoyed wearing it. Wearing it. It's a great sweater. Yeah. Like just even to go for like a quick afternoon walk in the winter. Yeah. Minus 20 year old comfortable in it. It's not like horrible. I don't know. I just love it. I would I don't know. It's great. It's a great sweater. Or a birthday gift. You'll have to get him a new one. Yeah, no, he's done for birthday and Christmas. I can't tell you what I got on here, but I will tell you off air. It was a custom thing and it was something, I'll tell you that. Still not here. Anyways. Yes, laundry is an inch. Okay, wait. I have also started this, and maybe this is also because again, I'm married to a mechanic in the winter. But there is some clothes where I'm like, we're never getting this out. I don't want it in my washer. I have to start taking things to the dry cleaners. My mother-in-law does that. And at first I was like, this is a waste of money. They come out clean. There's no oil in my washer. Cause the other thing she is, we have like a not that it's old, but it's like a Topload washer. And sometimes oil does get still stuck on the agitator. Mind you, this is like exceptional. Like he has come in like oily. O like up it just looks like he just d bathed in oil. I don't maybe he dropped bucket of oil on him. I really don't know how it happened. I really don't. I think he's taking a bath in oil. Yeah, like seriously, he's just deciding to like spot yeah, like spa day in oil. I have no idea. But there's certain things and now his coveralls just go straight to the dry cleaners. Yeah. And literally it was probably like I think it was like th four pairs of coveralls, a pair of really greasy like jeans and something. Probably like a jacket or something else. One other thing. It was eighteen dollars. I was like sick. I will gladly spend eighteen dollars on this to not have to like scrub out my Yeah. I couldn't ugh. But the shop we're we're plumbing in, I you would say, I gonna say wiring in. Washer. We've got a washer that's sitting in that shed back there. And that's going to be for all the greasy yucky things. Yeah. Because I've had I had one really nice shirt, but I can't say anything because I did shrink his sweater. And he was being so helpful. He he's not really one like he'll help me with laundry, but it's it's probably not on like the top of his to-do list. Like he'd much rather sweep my floor versus do laundry. yeah. He threw in a pair of work pants. And they probably weren't that oily in his defense, but like a pair of sweats under his cubbies. And threw it in with like one of my only nice lighter colored shirts that I would like wear to church. And there was just like an oil stain down the middle of it. And I was like and he didn't catch it, he threw it in the dryer. no. It's a very sad oil stain. Yeah. And he was like, I'm he felt terrible, but I was like, it's fine. And so we've kind of come to the agreements because I am picky on how my clothes get like not all my clothes. Farm clothes, I don't care. Yeah. They're farm clothes for a reason. If it's stained, it's not coming out. Other clothes. Speaking of this, my mom had to work really hard. You can't tell. But this sweater was covered. I never wear this sweater to anywhere but the house or going to town 'cause it's like light colored and it's super comfortable. Yeah. Love it. I went and collected eggs one day. I can't remember if I was going to town or what, or coming home from town. Yeah. one of the big dogs smashed his head into me. no. Right in the pocket. Broke all the eggs in my pocket. That's so sick. It was orange. With egg. And I was so upset. Yeah. Anyway, I brought it to my mom. She was still picking shells up. Cause you know there's like the seam in the pocket. Yeah. There were shells stuck in there. I thought I'd got them all, but there was like shells still stuck in there. And she got it out for me. I was like, you must have scrubbed. She had to have washed it like six six times to get it out. But I was so I was like, can you? I literally brought it. I was like, can you save this? Because I had tried. Yeah. Didn't nothing came. And she, yeah, she did it. It was great. No. Shout out to my mom for doing my laundry still at almost 30. Thank you. 10 out of 10 on the stain removal. wait. k I know this wasn't a laundry topic, but now because I'm on it, let's discuss it. My sister in law uses it's called like OxyClean White Out. Have you heard of this? I have like an OxyClean. Clean like powder that you know stain remover powder. Yeah, it is a powder. Okay, here it is. Okay, white revive is what it's called. no. No. does it work good Okay. She they borrowed some tablecloths for the wedding and I've been using white tablecloths in my garden to like cover squashes and stuff for like the last few years. They were dirty. Yeah. She put that in a load and they came out r like perfect. Perfectly white. Whoa. So anyways, fun fact. For anybody snow. Yeah. That's funny. Okay. Okay, so I've been in like a the season starts to change. There's like one orange leaf that I notice where it gets crisp in the evening and I am like It's FALL And I get so like my instincts are unreal. I'm like in the garden and I'm like, okay, like I'm ready to It's like close this up. Yeah. I'm re I'm done. I was in the garden. I went through my yard like two days ago and I was cleaning up my yard. I was like, it's gonna snow soon. Like, I'm just like, it's September 1st, you guys. Like, and I am full, like, yep, it's fall. It's gonna be winter soon. Like, let's go. I'm starting to like nest. It's so funny. I don't know what it is. It's like when you're pregnant and you're like gonna have a b your baby soon and you start nesting. I am starting to nest because it's gonna be winter soon. That's funny. I don't know. And Jorim gets so upset about it because he's like so sad. I know, because the season is over. And I'm just like I don't hate fall. I just don't like what comes after. I'm just ready to pull up all my beautiful stuff in my garden. And like my peas, they're almost done, but they're not done yet. But I'm just like, I just wanna pick them all. And just like be done with it. I I love okay, no, actually, this is what I'll say. I like fall because the days are shorter. They're crisp like I can go for a walk in the evening and not like sweating my hat. You know what I mean? Like just sweating buckets. I like it because it's like I'm getting to bed earlier because it's dark. Like it's getting darker earlier. So I feel like I'm like closing down the house earlier. I'm like, ooh, I'm gonna grab a book. And I I do like sitting. at this time of the year, like on my deck in my old lady rocker, the fold up one, because it's crisp. So like I can sit with a hot tea or coffee depending on the time of day. And like be out there with like a little blanket if I wanted to. Yeah. We had to light the wood stove the other day. Ooh. It was really cold. Yeah. It was I don't know why. It just felt so cold in here. Yeah. We only lit it for like an hour. Yeah. But I was like I could get used to this. It's I could do it. Yeah, me too. I could totally do it. And you're just gonna cry over there, Lacey. I'm also more like just then you're in like comfy clothes. Yeah. You're not like sweaty and sticky all the time. Like you don't have to shower every single day. You're just so think I sweat as much as you guys do. I think I'm I think I sweat way too much. I'm like I feel like I a normal amount. No, I think it's gotta be like plus thirty and I actually have to be working. No working. It's like plus 25 and I'm like, okay, it's too hot. Yeah. I am not. I like summer, but I I would be content with like a long fall. I would go without summer and or winter if it was like a standard fifteen degrees outside. No. Be like Vancouver, Scotland. But like not raining. I don't want rain. I would rather have it snow than rain. But I would be like content with like a fifteen to twenty degrees. Yeah, I'm a good fifteen to twenty. All year round. That would be slick. Me too. Twenty plus. Yeah, Jorim's like twenty to twenty five plus. He loves it. Yeah. But I'm like, no, it's too hot. It's so hot and things I don't know, I guess maybe It's like in the wintertime too, like minus twenty and under, too cold. But like a minus fifteen, great. Plus fifteen, great. Minus twenty and under? Like in below. Anything below minus twenty. Anything below minus twenty. Like minus twenty one, minus twenty two. That's like below. Got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. Yeah. I mean technically. I was thinking under yeah, never mind. Thinking the other way. You are right though. If you're looking at a thermometer, it's under. Yeah, it is absolutely a hundred percent. I have you ever been there was well, this isn't gonna wide this be more to Lacey When you guys milk, is it like in a barn? Yeah. Is it heated? With a heater? Yeah. Okay, mine. Obviously, mine is it's not even closed off. Like it's open. It just has a roof. in the air. Yeah. The one day it was so cold out there, my milk was like freezing to the bucket before it even like had a chance to. No fermenting because it's actually warm. No, I don't. But I just thought about that because like t today, this morning was like the perfect temperature to milk. Like just went out there, I was still like in my sweats. Like it was like a nice I was it was crisp. Perfect. But it wasn't too hot. She wasn't irritable because when it's really hot, sometimes she's like irritable because of like, you know what I mean? Yeah. It was perfect. And then I was like, man, just think it's only going downhill from here, essentially. So I was thinking is like, pretty soon my milk's gonna be freezing to my metal bucket because it's going to be so cold out. So cold. Yeah. That's what I thought about. I was gonna ask, have you branded your calves? I was gonna ask this too. When is that happening? I don't know. TBD. Yeah. Lacey has no idea. Yeah. Mama's Well, it's the worst that happens. Yeah. What's the worst that happens if you don't They can't go to auction 'cause we haven't cut them. Yeah. yeah. yeah, right. When do you guys normally sell? Like November. okay. There's time. You have time. We'll do an October branding It could be so big. Do you have to run your one of David's buddies might come. yeah. Like When he's not it'll be a very last minute like, hey. But the nice thing is when you are you not working? Yeah. 'Cause like David's David's also like you can't all up in the air. Yeah, it's yeah not like you can't schedule anything. Right. 'Cause it's like those are gonna be some massive calves. They are massive. Well, if we're not combining. I'll tell Jorim So okay, but the one nice thing is if you're dealing with thirty heads. Yeah. You can kind of be like, hey, this this evening works. Yeah. Yeah. You I mean, is it ideal? No. You obviously don't want to leave them for longer. But on the plus side is is you don't need like But now it's getting darker in the evening. So you kinda have to annoy start. Yeah, if you haven't started by like four probably. Yeah, that's true. Then you're kinda done. That is true. That's one thing I am looking forward to because we're I think I said this last episode, but we're pulling like ten days earlier. Yeah. I was like, we're gonna have 'Cause like last year was the first year we're done like six o'clock. Yeah. Yeah. Just because of how we bring in, like whatever. Yeah. So I'm I'm really looking forward to this year 'cause I like, we're having more sun. It's not much. But in September, ten days can actually make like a huge difference. It's probably like five, ten minutes at least. Yeah. So anyways, that's like a a minimal thing, but I was just like, This is great. Yeah. Less chance of it being free. Yeah, I guess it'll be a racist thing. That's funny. Do you guys also when do you sell I think I've I've probably asked this, I don't remember. wait, hold on. You just look at the market. Just see whatever's fine. Yeah, it doesn't matter to us. And for you, Lace, do you guys wean and then sell or do you guys just sell We pull them off the cow and load under the liner. We do it when his dad does his. Does his because we Send them wait like they'll order a liner. Mm-hmm. And then we'll just throw ours on. On. And typically like I think we've kind of started doing like January. Okay, that makes sense. That's kinda us too. Do you wean and then sell? Yeah, we wean in December, typically. And then that's kinda when we put them on corn. So then all the Calves. Calves are at the farm. Right. Because they're not on corn. They eat the Yeah, calves are on water. And on water. Yeah. And we don't have Water, so are we have to sell. When we pull the most a cow, we have to sell. You to sell. Yeah, absolutely. That makes sense. Yeah. And that's more is that you guys? Yeah, we mean like November, end of November probably. No, we don't sell 'til like January. okay, yeah. January like second or anywhere in January pretty much. But the guy that we generally sell to will not take wet calves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you have to have them weaned weaned before. Yeah. Yeah. 'Cause if you wean and sell they get way more s like they get sick faster. Yeah. They can, yeah. So Yeah, I don't know. I just was thinking about that the other day 'cause I was like I don't know, it's just it's interesting to see like some people like like for example, we almost always sell in January. Yeah. Regardless. We're kind of all over the place. But also for us it's different because The cow like the calves aren't our main source of income. So it doesn't matter if technically it doesn't matter if we sell in the exact like we could do two batches in one year. And it'd be fine. And it'd be okay. Yeah. I mean obviously you're gonna have to pay more taxes or whatever. Like but for us, like the grain is the main thing. So we're always just like, we're so busy flat out and then finally when we slow down we can sit down and look at the pricing and see. Decide when we wanna sell. And it will Whereas for you guys you wanna do it like around the same time every year so that you don't hit one like sometimes you schedule payments or whatever you need. Yeah. like our payments which this is the last tractor payment. Yeah is January. Yes. So we wanna sell it in November. You need it before that. Yeah. Yeah. Hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. Do you sell it a to Dawson? Yeah. Okay, yeah. We have a I don't know, what is like ten yearlings that we kept back last year? yeah. Or a lot like we didn't sell. And so we're gonna jump in on a liner with like a couple neighbors and they're going to Thorsby, I guess. Okay, yeah, we've sent ours there. I did pretty good last year. But it's also hard but like 'cause when you're selling a liner load, you can just like take Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But when you only have so many, like ten isn't gonna fill anything. But we also don't have enough it's not We don't have a big enough tra trailer to like haul ten. Yeah. Like we had a buddy did it, we could do two But it's also just like, I'll just come load up, we'll jump in on your line and load. Yeah. Be done. Like do you know what I mean? Like it's just like whatever. It's it's fine. Yeah. I don't know. And yours aren't branded, are they? No. Only our replacement heifers get branded. I don't know if ours are gonna get branded this year either, because A, they don't have to go to the grazing lease. We've act they're still on our place. Yeah. That's good. So it's like good, but also not good. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it depends. But previous years we had to sh send them even this many. Yeah. There wasn't enough grass. But like I've rotated them through three different no, I don't think so. Through three different sections. You've done you've rotated through three different sections? Yeah. Okay. And then just some electric fence. Yeah. And it's been raining enough that it'll It's growing back. Yeah. That's We had to merge our young group with our older group. Mm-hmm. Except for we like kept the yearlings out with two walls. But our two year olds and three year olds or second calvers and third calvers went up north with the old group, which is fine. Short term, I understand why we had to do it, because like just pasture wise, we couldn't couldn't swing it. but trying to manage it's not gonna bite us in the butt this year. Like next calving season. It's gonna be like three calving seasons down the road. Yeah. Because of the way the bulls are split. I have to be very like mindful in three years to know where those calves are going. So that we don't end up breeding back to Right. Do you know what I mean? Like the just the way it got split. And I was like and we also kept some more tiny animals back. Like my favorite L two thirty B. She's with the heifer group because she got poor thing got bred to you. A massive bull and That's just that's just sad. Nobody wants that. No. But I was like thinking about it the other day. He's like, no, it's so doable. And I was like, no, I understand that, but I need you to like map it out in your head because I'm telling you right now that it wor it we can do it. Yeah. You're going to come at me. Did I already share this? Yeah, you did. sorry. Never mind. I couldn't remember if we shared it or not. Yeah. Anyways. I'm still losing sleep over it. Did you write it down? it's written down. It's in the app. It's on the spreadsheet. Like we'll be fine. That's fine. Just the idea of like in three years they're gonna be like, da I'm like here and then in the shop, I already know where it's going on the whiteboard. Yeah. That is how much the amount of mental space that this is like taking it out is wild. It's too much. It's too much. Yeah. Okay, I do have a question though. Do you guys sell anything in everything that's open? Or will you give something a second chance? Like if it's like a second calver will you? Yes, normally. Yes, for real? What if it's like an open cow but you know she throws a good Like what's your criteria? It would depend on the situation to why Tell me. Tell me up. So like if her calf died Not her fault. Not her fault. Then yeah. Then you give her she stays. Yeah. But if they're just like open? Yeah. Then probably not. Even if it was a second calver no, if it was a second calver maybe. But not like a if it had a traumatic birth prior. It depends what type of birth and why was it traumatic? For example, like we had one last year number one hundred. Great cow tenor. I would have kept her. She had triplets last year. She came up open this year. We did sell her because she's a numbered cow, so she's nine and over. But I would have kept her over the third cavert that we kept. Even though she was older. She was a proven cow that was good. Did I she raise the triplets? The one didn't make it. So she only had twins. She but she did raise the twins. yeah. She took both of them. She took both of them. And she would have taken that third had it not died. Yeah. She had the I don't know if she would have had the milk to take three. But there was a complication with the third. Had it lived, I think she she was like she was a great mom. However, from a business standpoint, keeping a nine-year-old cow at the youngest that didn't breed back. I don't know. From a business standpoint, no. From a from the logical of like she had really good genetics, she was a good cow. Like at nine or ten years old, her bag was still good. Good. And we kept replacements off it. She was a great mom. She has ra she had raised twins one year prior, if I remember. Nope, sorry, that was 27. I lied. Backtrack that. I think it depends though. Like, think on Lacey's terms. You only have 30 cows, and if you have a bunch of steers. That you're selling, you're probably gonna keep your opens. Yeah, it would depend on Like, see, that's why I was asking, yeah. Like 'cause you're like, okay, maybe the next like if it was a second. Yeah. Whereas you guys sell anything that's open, is that correct? No, I think it depends too on the situation. So the reason I'm asking this is I'm gonna sound like my husband. But I was listening to a podcast and this guy and it ha when I was talking about like Taking up too much mental space. Yeah. This podcast has taken up so much of my mental space. Are you gonna name the podcast? I will have to look for it and we can tag it afterwards. Cause I I truly Keith just had it on. Yeah. it was such a good perspective. But he said, because some guys are like, well, I like that cow, I'm gonna keep her, give her another shot. she's a young cow, I'm gonna keep that cow, even though she came up with them. Whatever. However In on the business standpoint you said, Well would j then if you're gonna keep that open cow then go buy your neighbor's open cows. If you're in the business of open cows, go buy your neighbors open cows. Right. You wouldn't. Nine times out of ten, you're not you're not buying your neighbors open cows. No. It would also depend though when you're selling opens. What do you mean? S like, okay, you prague check in January and you have ten opens. Are you keeping them till spring? Or are you keeping are you selling right after you preg check? Because if you're keeping We've sold right after we've preg checked. Some day some years. Some years. And then some years you don't. Yeah. So I would say like if you're keeping them till spring anyways, you could see if they breed back. Yeah. You preg check Anyway, so I was talking about like sometimes people preg check in like January, February, whatever. I guess earlier if you calve earlier. Yeah. But we do typically we would do January. And then what? I guess like if you have thirty opens, it's like, okay, I don't wanna feed these guys. So you're selling everything that's open then? Yeah, if you're like we're short on feed. No, okay, not short on feed. Not short on feed. Like Yeah. I don't know. I wasn't So this is a thing. But that podcast has stuck with me because in the sense of from strictly a business perspective. Yeah. And everything's ideal. Are you going to feed an animal that is open? However, caveat to this being said, is it takes two years to raise up an animal that can to to calve. Like for So are you then so if from a business standpoint Then you sell everything in fall and in spring you buy back yearlings that you can breed. So then this So then you're not keeping. But no because then you don't have to feed anything. Yeah and you don't have to wait that extra year of feed. So and this was kind of the debate on the podcast inside if I remember correctly. But his point was is y or the point that I was gonna say on like how we do it, because we do keep our replacements. Yeah. So you are feeding, but you know that that cow's going to produce In two years. You do have to qualify the fact that you are putting feed in for two years versus just buying somebody's bred heifer. Yeah. But but with that being said, is if you're making feed for cheaper, you're feeding that heifer for less than what you could buy her for. And there is, I don't know, I don't have research on it or whatever, but I think. If you're bringing in heifers to breed, I think the catch rate is actually lower. probably because it's more adjustment. Yeah. Because the animals that you raise yourself are going to be used to your operation. But strictly from a business standpoint, you would sell. I think you'd have to do the numbers on it though. Because then you sell when it's open. Yeah. And then in fall, your two year old, 'cause you actually can get quite a bit of money for two year old. Yeah. Young stuff too, right? Yeah. So it doesn't catch, you preg check, it doesn't catch, so you just sell it again. sorry, I thought we were talking about like raising from calf to Yeah. 'Cause you still r well, no, but like if you sold all of your calves and then in spring bought your replacements. Yeah, your replacements bread them. Anything that doesn't do that. Anything that doesn't catch goes you sell. Yeah. But for so for us, what I was gonna do, we keep our replacements. Yeah. Yeah. Anything that doesn't catch, we direct market for the most part. Right. But strictly from like a you've pregnant checked, you've got open cows, regardless if it's yeah, you know, replacements or if it's a nine year old cow or a five year old cow or like whatever. Just the way that he worded it, like, well, you wouldn't go keep your neighbors. You wouldn't go buy your neighbors. So why would you keep any opens? So why are you keeping the opens? If the business is selling the calf. Yeah. On the flip side of that right now, or I don't even know it's the flip side. Cows are making money, like just like a a D3 or D4 is still making money, like a burger cow. Yeah. So are you better off to sell it than use that money to buy a replacement? Like say you come up with 15 opens. Yeah. Not ideal, but yeah, let's say it happens. Do you sell all those opens and buy the replacements? You probably won't get 15. You might only get ten because replacements are more than your burger cow is worth. Depending on what they're, you know, like what you're selling. Do you then I would say sell and then you keep replacement heifers. No, but with that money that you've sold from, if you're trying to get your numbers up, you just go buy the replacements. Probably. On top of what you've already have for replacements. Yes, you're getting less head than if you were to But at least you'll get a calf that vol or you should ideally get a calf. And are you buying calves that you're heifers that you're breeding? Or are you buying heifers that are calving? So you calve red heifers. I would buy red heifers. So like sell an open cow to buy a bred heifer. There's not gonna be a straight across price. No, no. You're probably gonna get ten bred heifers or eight. I guess it depends if you're trying to keep fifteen call cows. I guess it depends where you want your numbers. Yeah. Right. And what you numbers you have for feed and all that too. Yeah, there's a lot. See, there's so many variables to it. Which I think is really hard to say this is the way it should be done. Or this makes the most sense because what makes sense for you doesn't make sense for me. Yeah. 100%. Or you. 100%. You know? Yeah, no, I don't know. I just thought it was like such an interesting concept. Because there is times we'll keep most times it's a second calver that doesn't catch that we will keep, but there was like a couple third or fourth calvers Yeah. That we decided to keep because they were young and whatever. And then they bred back the next year and we've had no problems. Right. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so there is something to that because it does cost a lot to get an out a heifer from a calf to having her own calf. Yeah. There's a lot of like input that goes into that. Yeah. If we like the cow, we normally give her two years. Yeah. Right. We have her another year and see. Anyways, it was just like for some reason that just like stuck out to me. Yeah. And mind you, this this guy is strictly in the in my opinion from what I understand from this brief w podcast, he's in the business of buying and selling. Like he's that's where the money is though. Flipping Absolutely there is. A hundred percent. Emotional attachment does not make you money. But and okay, so that's exactly what he said. Emotional attachment does not make you money. Because generally speaking, you're keeping that cow because she's young. I like her. she throws a big cow. she throws whatever it is. But then you gotta apply it to land and everything. Like why are you keeping this property when you could sell it and then go by farther out for half the price and get more acres? Mm-hmm. Well yeah, in and in our area, like right for the family part of this, this land's bought and paid for, so like We're net positive, essentially, right? Like what we're raising on here is Right. But you could sell and make and get twice as many acres that would be farther. I don't think so because there's a lot of grain land out there though, and it's going for higher. No, you have to go like Milligan Creek way, Buick. Yeah, I guess up to 73. Like Yeah, so there is something like where does this go and how far do you push it? it's just something that is like stuck with me because as even as ranchers, not just as hobby farmers, there are certain cows that you're like, she's a ten out of ten cow. Yeah. For whatever reason. Whatever meets your criteria, whatever that looks like. But then are you just keeping because which I think also sometimes though, are you like what's your goal here? To get rich and make the most money you possibly can with this business, or like sustain your family and like have it make money, have a business, have a ranch, have something to hand down to your kids, but not make money the sole focus. Cause I think as soon as you start going too far down that path, it can hurt f your kids and your family and your neighbors because now instead of being neighborly, you have to check your bottom dollar. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And if helping the neighbor out cuts into your bottom dollar, you refuse. Yeah. And I think that there's a price and like a cost of making it make money. thats fair Yeah, I don't know. I was just thinking like just from a cattle like this guy, like I said, sells everything, but whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Something else I've seen, and I can't remember where I seen this for the life of me. I don't know if I've shared this. Something else I seen was like they have calculated a spreadsheet. They've used a spreadsheet using AI. Yeah. To go off of whatever the sale is that week to figure out what's going for top, what what is in the inventory of that farm or of that ranch, what's going for top dollar and what he needs to like turn around to flip. On the topic of AI, brilliant. Not that I not that I totally agree with using AI. Like I think there's a line. I think there's a place for AI. Yeah, I think there is too but I thought that was smart. So he said instead of him being like, you know, I don't know, like calves are top dollar right now. no, actually it's two year olds. Yeah. Black. Two year olds or red two year olds. Yeah. Yeah. I've got this many in inventory. I can flip it for this much. Yeah. And I was like, that he's got his the spreadsheet on it. I have no further information. Like he it's not like he shared what he put in the spreadsheet. But it's pretty interesting to be using that as a business. Which you can use cows as business. No, no. absolutely are in the business of cows. That is that is ranching, isn't it though? But no, but like differently. You can use it as an investment, I guess I should say. Instead of ranching. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Absolutely. Because like especially those big places. Yeah. It's an investment. Absolutely. It's not about ranching. Mm-mm. No. Most of those guys have somebody running a r they have a ranch hand or five ranch hands or running it. Yeah. it's about the bottom dollar and the Yeah. What makes the money and then they have like inventory and most of the time they own like the auction mart and the slaughterhouse. Yeah. And so whatever is selling, yeah, they send. wether it's calves or cows or would you say that's typically here? Would you say that's typically in the States? No, it's here. It's here too, hey? Yeah. Yeah, see I don't know anybody who owns a feedlot. Like the guy that we sell to, he grasses them. The place we worked on, Nielsen Brothers. yeah. They own Feedlots many things. Yeah, like we moved we did a cow calf operation, two different ones. Right. Saskatchewan and BC. Mm-hmm. There was a feedlot in Alberta. And that was just the ones we worked on. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. That's more of a corporate scale of it, isn't it? Yeah. So they use it as an investment, not as like we're going to rent. This is our lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah. I also do think it is interesting. There isn't On the topic of cattles for as investment. What other investment for the most part that you buy, they pop out a baby, you then get like every year they pop out something that you're selling. Yeah. Like the return on like 10-year-old cow is wild, if you think about it. Yeah. Yeah, return on said investment is exactly. If you can keep it alive. No, but okay, yeah, there's there's going to be things. But there's always a risk in advance. Investment. No, I know, but like the but like it's not like you can I don't know, it's not like you can go to like a used car lot and they're popping out other cars. Do you know what I mean? Like like I don't I don't know if that's a great investment. Or like I wouldn't say example. But do you know what I mean? Like what investment other than livestock are you popping out? Popping them out like that? yeah. For for like your not having to like put the work in essentially. Like you have to raise them and keep them alive, yes. But as for like grow growing the investment, you're they're doing it. Yeah. yeah. I don't know. Just food for thought. Yeah. I'm on this weird side of like podcasts right now and and like social media. It's all on like the business side of ranching. Okay. And like how to use certain things to your benefit. Like that guy was talking about using like AI to the benefit of mind totally different operation. One lady commented though, I seen. I have no information on who this lady was, anything. She said she was using it to keep track, essentially what I use the app for. She scaled AI to do it for. you know what I did after we processed our cows, or whatever, after we branded, because we have like the RFID or C CIA numbers, and then I like you put the sticker next to the numbers. I just took a picture and said, turn this into a spreadsheet, and then it did it all for me. you put the stickers next. I just write the number out. You don't just grab the sticker. No, because I put mine into a spreadsheet. Mine goes into the app. But that's brilliant. But just took a picture and just put it on a spreadsheet that's like, okay, if we ever need to look back for whatever reason they're on the dri like Google Drive because otherwise there's these papers that like because there's so many of us in this operation, it's like it needs to be in one spot. So then I shared it with my two brother in laws. I was like, we all know where this is now. Yeah, that's good. Do you keep hard copies of all your spreadsheets? Typically, yeah. So do I. Because it I've had like the app fail or the like not that Google Drive has ever necessarily failed, but I've had it where like we couldn't get like we didn't have servers, so I could not access it. So I have like a hard copy that was like hand either hand bomb or like highlighted for whatever reason with like a bunch of and have the notes if somebody like if I die. And somebody was looking at them would be like, What does this mean? What does this mean? And I realized that when I was like color coding things, like when we ship, because like orange was replacement, blue was ship, I think green was like direct market or something like that, but I knew we were gonna direct market. I knew what they were. Yeah. I knew what the system was. No if they weren't labeled. So if you were to just like pick up that spreadsheet, you'd be like, What in the world? Yeah. Is blue, green, and orange. Like what? And so then I was like, I started putting on the top of the spreadsheet. Like little legend. Like a legend of what it is. Same with like shots given, like all that stuff. yeah. I read it all out. Yeah. Anyways, I don't know. It's just I was just thinking about that. Yeah. I act what did I convert? I think we converted last year I used AI to convert what every field made for bales. To convert it to like how many bales per acre we got. yeah. And like record it so that we could anyways, it was super useful, put it in a Google Drive. I was like, that saved me so much. Yeah. Time that I didn't have to like go through, do the math, yeah, put this all in, it just was done. It's definitely easy to just plop in numbers or whatever and just let it do it for you. It's kinda nice. Anyways. Too bad I couldn't do it for my books. Probably could. Yeah, you can. I no Yeah, but I'm saying you'd have to like scale it so yeah. I just don't know how to use it that well to scale and have to be like, tax pen, here's my books. Like it's probably not happening. That'd be crazy. That'd be wild. Anyway. It'd be nice. Be nice. You could take a picture of all your receipts and tell it to just turn it into a spreadsheet for you. You could. There you go. Done. on the note of all that, all food for thought. That's it, that's all I got. Yeah, if anybody has any questions or comments or anything, tell us 'cause this is kind of a this is an interesting episode. We went from laundry to like what are you buying and selling? And when are you buying and selling? And would you buy your neighbors open cows? Yeah. Great. Great topics. Let us know. Would you buy your neighbors open cows? Yep. And how do you do your laundry? Yeah, how do you split your laundry? Does anybody who in our generation split w like lights and darks? We need to know. Whites. Lights, darks, and whites. Yeah. Yeah, we gotta know. Good, that's it. Farm clothes. Yeah. yeah. Tell us. Tell us how you split your laundry. All right, folks. Have a good week. Thanks for listening.