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Brothers dot uki. Mean admittedly, you did get a a
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taste of my irritability over the the technical thing.
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Actually, if you want to, if you want to know the essence of me,
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it's basically that I'm never happier than when taking the
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piss. You're making our cause look
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ridiculous. I'm like, oh, well, if Paul is
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dead, then there's really no point trying to pretend he's
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not. I think I was like, a kind of
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like a, like a sleeper agent. I didn't know it.
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I think, I think, I think this was, I think God.
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God decided this was going to be my my role.
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It's funny in it, how life, the things that we do in life, the
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elaborate things that we do. Well, it's funny.
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We were having that conversation.
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Well, unfortunately it's not. It's not what I want.
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It doesn't make me happy. What, sitting here while we're?
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For the technology, it really, I, I mean, I don't want to be a
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difficult customer, but if you want to get the best out of me,
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it's really not not a good way of I've kind of had enough
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already, is what I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah.
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Stop. Right.
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So we're just talking off camera a little bit.
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When we first met at Hope, not that you'd remember, but I
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remember meeting you and your brother and that was Hope
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Festival back in 2021, I think, maybe 2020.
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It feels like another age. Yeah, just isn't it the amount
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of growth, I suppose that we could say that that we've all
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gone through in different ways? Yeah, well, it was like starting
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at a new school and these are these are the people you'll be
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these are your classmates and the people in your house and
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you're going to have to get to know them.
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These are these are your new set of friends.
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And I think for a lot of us, it was very unexpected.
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We, a lot of us were new to all this that I mean, I was I, I, I
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until not long before that I, I've been a normie to all
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intents and. Places.
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Yeah, yeah. I, I I wouldn't have understood
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what you meant by the term normie because I thought I was
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pretty. I mean, I wasn't afraid to, to
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even at that stage to destroy my, my conventional career by,
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by speaking out about things like climate change.
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Yeah, yeah. So that was quite that was like.
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Oh, I was definitely, I was definitely head of the game.
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I mean, I've just done a a podcast with with my friend
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Dominic Frisbee. Oh.
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You know, Dominic? And Dominic said the problem
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with you, James, is you're too early.
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You're too early on things. It's like it's like in the in
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the stock markets, it's being too early is not good.
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And knowing knowing that the stock is going to shoot up or or
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or or collapse, there's no use if you get your timing wrong
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other. Scenarios as well where it's not
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very useful, isn't it? You.
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Can talk about that later. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But but yeah. So it wasn't as though I was
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unaware that the establishment, the conventional world is not,
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is not to be trusted. But I hadn't realized the degree
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to which this extended from the world of so-called climate
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science, which is not, is not science, to everything, to
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history, to medicine, to everything that was.
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That was a thing that I hadn't realized.
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And I met this new crowd of people who became It was like
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meeting the best friends I I never knew I had.
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It was, isn't it? For a lot of people here, it
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was. It was very strange to find
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people that you could just have eye contact with and sort of
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feel open with without any of the guard that perhaps we've,
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you know, got used to having with of.
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Course. Well, I've always been a I've
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always been quite frank. I've always been.
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I've always been very open with myself that, that when I, when
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I, when I meet, there's a sort of English things that a lot of
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English people have been trained to do or do instinctively, which
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is there's this reserve they, they hold something back.
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I never bothered with that stuff.
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I've never, I've never. But it, I suppose it is quite an
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English of me. I'm straight in there.
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What you see is what you get. I don't think I don't think the
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version of me you see when you first meet me is significantly
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different from the from the one where I mean, admittedly, you
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did get a a taste of my irritability over the the
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technical thing I. Can sympathise.
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It's just that you found you found my weakness.
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I absolutely loathe technology and I loathe things that require
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tinkering and mechanics and electronics and just it's never
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been of any interest to me. I've just been.
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I have a very low boredom threshold and if it interests me
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I can spend days lifetime doing it, but if it doesn't I don't
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want to know. But even in that situation where
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you you could been completely passive, do you find it tricky
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to be passive? Could you, could you say you
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couldn't just sit and sort of meditate on the what you you're
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sort of irritated by proxy because we were getting
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frustrated with the tech? I just thought, just get on with
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it. Can we just do it?
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I mean, that's always been my policy with my podcast.
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I, I, there are definitely the occasional technical flaw in, in
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my podcasts And I kind of think what I, it's not the bit that
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interests me. The bit that interests me is the
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chat. Sure, I'm good at the chat.
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I can do. I can, I can.
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I can chat for England. That's handy.
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Which is. Why I'm very happy in my, in my
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skin generally, as long as I'm doing what I like doing, like
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being on a horse or doing podcasts or hanging with people
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that I can talk, talk to about this stuff.
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Which is what going back, which is what was great about that,
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that Hope Festival, that one didn't have to edit oneself.
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Not that I do edit myself generally, but it was nice to be
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with people where it it. Wasn't even an option it.
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Wasn't even an option. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, because I, I think we, we do even, you know, however,
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however comfortable we are with expressing our opinions about
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things you do for for the for the sake of progress in a way,
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one sort of tempers the the approach or you, you, you, you,
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you change your approach accordingly.
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You know what battle you're fighting to some extent.
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You know, see, you don't just bludgeon in with someone who's
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completely oblivious to the agenda with, you know, some far
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out you, you have to judge it, don't you?
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To some extent. It is.
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It is the curse of anyone who is awake that you have to approach
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every encounter as if you're in entering hostile territory.
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You have to you, you have to be a bit sensitive.
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Yeah, you're right. I mean, even I, I, I love, I
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love sort of shocking people with my outrageous opinions.
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I like, I like, I like getting. Actually, if you want to, if you
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want to know the essence of me, it's basically that I'm never
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happier than when taking the piss.
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And my parents are the same. It's very, very bizarre and
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maybe it's a Midlands thing, I don't know.
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But my mother is a piss taker, My father is a piss taker.
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I mean, I live in a family of piss takers.
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So it was kind of inevitable that I was going to do something
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when it which ended up me taking the piss.
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But I what I didn't, I was, I was, I wasn't going to be doing
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all just a kind of individual level.
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I was going to be taking the piss of the whole world of the
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paradigm. I mean, that's what's been
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brilliant about these times for me, discovering that the whole,
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the entire paradigm, everything that most people think about the
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world to be true is bollocks. And I can now say it's bollocks.
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I could be the little boy, he says.
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The Emperor's wearing no players, which is, which has
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always been what I enjoyed doing, yeah.
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Do you think there's a, a, a, a danger at times for us to
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perhaps fall for what I might call the second matrix kind of
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ideas? Because we're, we're sort of so
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enamoured with this idea of throwing a grenade into the
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established, kind of, you know, that we, that we, we sometimes
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fall prey to not being perhaps as cautious in terms of
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defining. The Yeah, I don't think so.
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No, but maybe that's your problem.
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I don't think I'm I'm, I consider I'm on a journey and I
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just want to find out what what's true and what's not true.
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Yeah. And.
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That's easy to say. Then I'm I'm very happy to to
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change my opinions with with new evidence.
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So for example, I'm not very sold on tart area.
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I think it's, I think it's a great idea.
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I like the idea that there was this whole region of, I mean,
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I'm of course I'm aware there's a place called Tartary.
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There. Was even a poem about it if I
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were Lord of Tartary myself and me alone.
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But I'm not quite there on the all all big buildings are
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transmission devices for amazing power.
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Like like show me you persuade me more give me.
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Same with mud floods and things. Same with but.
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I suppose that's, that's what I mean in a way.
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You know, I, I, I have friends, you know who I can see they've
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woken up and then they'll sort of grab everything.
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Liked Atari without perhaps looking for real evidence, you
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know, And I suppose that's all I mean is that that can then play
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into the hands of the agenda because you know it.
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I'm. Muddy's the water, so to me.
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I'm more worried about people being what I call purple pilled.
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I've not heard that one. Well, because obviously because
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I I coined it and you don't you don't listen to my podcast
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enough, but or or or read the pieces I read about this.
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So, but basically it's that OK, people, they go down the rabbit
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hole, they, they, they discover that astonishingly, the
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government is not their friend and that the medics are not
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there to save their lives. They're actually, they had to,
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to administer this poison on the, on behalf of the, the, the
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Pharmaceutical industry and, and Biggie generally.
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And so they notionally, they wake up, but they realise that
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this, this new world they live in is quite a discomforting one
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because their friends will no longer talk to them.
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They can't relate. They can't have the
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conversations they used to have. They can't, they can't, they can
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barely read the newspapers anymore and they find it
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uncomfortable. And they want to re establish a
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link sort of to have a, a connection with the, with the
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old world as a kind of comfort blanket to show that they're not
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as isolated as they feel. And I think that's a bigger
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mistake because what they do is they then say, well, they start
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pointing themselves gatekeepers of which narratives are true,
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which are untrue. So they say, look, it's
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perfectly, it's perfectly acceptable to question the
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safety and the efficacy of, of of the vaccine.
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But when you talk about Paul is dead, say all outlandish
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conspiracies like that, you're, you're making our cause look
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ridiculous. I'm like, oh, well, if Paul is
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dead, then there's really no point trying to pretend he's
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not. It's just you're, you're, you're
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actually doing the cause of disservice because ultimately
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our only watchword should be the truth.
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We're on the mission to find out truth.
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The truth is holy. The truth is an expression of
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God. And if we start making excuses
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as to why this or that area should remain beyond, beyond
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inquiry, then I think we're doing ourselves a disservice.
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In fact, we're, we're creating our own form of it's a form of
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self censorship and I've never been into that.
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Yeah. Yeah, I definitely agree that
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truth is holy and there shouldn't be anything that we
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can't question. I mean, that's say with, with
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the Holocaust, you know, that's, I always used to say if you go
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to, if you're sent to prison for questioning something, that's
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the thing you should be questioning.
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So I think so, yeah. Yeah.
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You know, I'm not saying I'm not saying one one way or the other
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conclusion wise, but it, you know, if something is, is is
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illegal to question that that raises a red well.
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I think I, I can't remember whether it was, I called it
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Dalingpole's first law or Dalingpole's Second law.
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I guess I'm quite sort of sketchy about these, these,
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these phrases like I, I invent them and then I forget about
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them or forget the context. But one thing I've definitely
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discovered is the more that the culture insists on something
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being true, and the more it's kind of it's, it's forced on our
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consciousness, the less likely it is to be true, the more
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likely it's to be done. So for example, everyone knows
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what happened to the Titanic. There was even a film made about
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it called A Night to Remember. Like they didn't want you to
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forget any more than they wanted you to forget the 5th of
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November. Remember, remember the 5th of
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November. And it seems to me that all the
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thing, all the big historical events that we're told about us
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and we're invited to feel strongly about are fake in some
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way there or or at least the version of events you're being
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sold sold is it is false. So you think about the epochal
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events in our lives, the ones that we everyone, everyone
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knows. Apparently everyone can remember
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where they were when they heard the news that that Kennedy was
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shot. The, the the alert signal should
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be going off. It's bollocks.
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Then it's bollocks. Moon landings.
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I, when I was a little boy, I encouraged my father to get his
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petrol from Shell garages because Shell had this special
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display thing with, with these coins, these moon landing coins.
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And I wanted all that I wanted the full set of the moon landing
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coins. Well, why was Shell doing that?
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Well, obviously the, the, the, the, the lying system wants,
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wants to reinforce the narrative.
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So everyone's in on it at a certain level, whether it's the
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oil, oil companies and the obviously the movie industry,
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the TV, they're all, they're all part of things.
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But you could argue that if, let's say it was genuine and
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wouldn't a big company want to get in on the ACT anyway,
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Yeah, yeah. Well, I think that's one of the
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ways, that the way that people are persuaded to bind to the,
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the deception, there's always an explanation, there's always a
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rational explanation for the normies and the norm is
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satisfied with that. So yeah, you'd think, well, of
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course petrol stations are going to market this big event.
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Of course they are. And of course it in this case,
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it wouldn't require, say, whoever was head of the shell at
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the time to, to. No, no, no.
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I suppose what I'm saying is that that our culture reinforces
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that these narratives at every level, which is why it's so hard
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to persuade people that they're being had, because everything,
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everything reinforces that that this particular view they have
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of the world. Yeah, sure.
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Yeah. I don't think there's any
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question that, that the main thrust of, of, of societies is
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acceptance of conventional wisdom.
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You know, there's, there's very, there's very little in our
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education system which, you know, encourages free thinking,
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no questioning. The the rewards for buying into
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the narrative. I'm I'm a classic product of
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that system. I was, I was really good at
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school. I was top of a lot of my
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subjects because I, well, like quite learning stuff.
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Yeah, I was good at general knowledge.
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And then I got a place at Smart University that everyone wants
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to get into and this is how. And then then after that, the
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next step is obviously a good job, get in banking or whatever.
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I'm sure that most of my Oxford contemporaries are earning way,
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way more than me because they've been given, they've been given a
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place as it's a bit like the Babylonian court say, say you've
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got presumably the Babylonian royal family, but just below
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that you've got the, the, the administrators, the people
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who've been selected, they've, they've gone through the
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process. So that's your reward when you
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learn your stuff. And you, you, you accept the
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narrative, they will pay you. And if you if you don't, then
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you get ostracized and isolated and, and punished financially
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and punished in terms of, well, in all sorts of ways that
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everyone is awake has experienced that, that, that you
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can no longer you're no longer part of the general discourse.
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Yeah. You're an outsider.
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So go and just mention your childhood or your upbringing
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school. It's a hot it's come up quite a
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bit. And the whole idea of class, you
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know, you've written about class, haven't you?
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And. Yeah.
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Not class. Classes I I don't know.
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I don't know what this thing class is that you.
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Yeah, I thought it might, might throw you a bit.
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Sure, it shocked me. Do people speak in this way?
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I, I believe so. In the provinces, yeah, yeah,
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yeah. But, you know, it's, I, I think
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it's still a fascinating topic because it's particularly in
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England, I think. But it does also relate to the
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structure of the agenda. You know, so so for example,
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your upbringing is more, you had more of an you will have had
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more of an insight into and and had, you know, a closer
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connection to some of the people who might be.
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Illuminati. No, Yeah, yeah.
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But you know, people who? Who basic close to the top of
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the pyramid Let's. Put it that way, my Illuminati
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adjacent upbringing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm fucking all the books. Here I I find it absolutely
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hilarious because I mean, nobody who's posh would think of me as
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posh. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm common,
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really common as much in, in as much as my family is
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industrialist stock rather than landed, landed Gentry.
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Yeah, I definitely had relative to the most of the population.
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I had a privileged upbringing, you know, I mean, we, we had
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nice family holidays and and I was educated privately.
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And the the Oxford thing was I totally deserved for being
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clever. I worked for that.
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There was that even then it was, it was not guaranteed that you'd
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get in. I don't, I think they made a big
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mistake in letting me in because basically they, they let in
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somebody who was going to betray the system.
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They wanted me to be one of them.
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And, and instead I, I think I was like a kind of like a like a
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sleeper agent. I didn't know it.
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I think, I think, I think this was, I think God, God decided
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this was going to be my, my role.
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But but as you know, we, we in our circles and in the broader
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sense of the, the awake movement, although I, I don't
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know what that means, but but like, yeah, people who awake,
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you'll get these characters who, who, who say, Oh yeah, James
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Sterling, Paul's like he's a, he's a controlled opposition or.
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Yeah, with literally every anyone there.
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Yeah, there's literally anyone. Oh, oh, totally.
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But and and you find different reasons for doing so.
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And the one the one they use with me is, well, like, he's
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just like so establishment. And he was friends with two
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future prime ministers. I I wasn't alluding to that,
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but. No, but I'm, but I find it quite
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amusing. I, I, I wasn't, I wasn't really
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trying to defend myself from a point you weren't making.
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It was more that it's quite interesting, isn't it, that the
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people who are awake, they come from all classes and, and, and
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backgrounds. It's it's not A and I think that
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we're all bringing different things to the party.
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So what I bring to the party into Aliyah is that I had an
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inside view of, of well, the, the lives and behaviour of
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people who would go on to become these high, high tier
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administrators in the Babylonian court.
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Presumably, I thought I must have, I must have met people who
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are actual Illuminati. Although how would you know?
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I mean, I'm, I'm still trying to work, work out how it works, but
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I suspect that it's has something to do with split
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personalities. So you, for example, could be
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member of the Illuminati and, and one of your, one of your
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personalities is Jake Fern artist.
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And then because you've been, because you've been buggered at
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the right age by your, by your controllers, you've got this,
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the trauma has has created this, this multiple personalities and
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your, your Jake Fern personality is just like amiable and good at
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painting and and stuff. But then you've got this other
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one, which, which, which comes out when you're sacrificing your
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children or whatever to, to Satan.
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I think. I think that's how it works.
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You do? Yeah.
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Yeah, interesting. So you wouldn't know.
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So it's like I, I used to, I used to do, I used to do
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interview movie stars and pop stars and things.
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I remember doing an interview with with Tom Hanks once.
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Oh, OK. I'm thinking he's one of the
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nicest blokes I've ever met. He's just so calming.
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And but you have to remember Tom Hanks is an actor.
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He's many things beside that, but he's he's an actor.
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And so I don't, you can't tell. I think you, you have to be, I
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think your default position has to be suspicious.
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Like who do I trust? Like I trust my brothers and
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sisters, maybe a few others, but I'm just always open to
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possibility that that that. Takes a sleeper agent.
27:54
Yeah, well, Dick, Dick, Dick sometimes thinks wrong things on
27:57
things and I have to put him right.
27:59
I, I think, I think no, I think Dick probably is a not a sleeper
28:02
agent, right? Yeah, when I was trying to sort
28:06
of understand what was going on, it was the psychology that
28:09
interested me more than necessarily the the mechanics.
28:13
Yeah, the mechanics, the details of that.
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And that's when I started to get this sense of what that world
28:23
and how, how other that world. Is, it's interesting, Yeah.
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It's really good that Bob has corroborated what I'm about to
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say, which is that I spent what, 2025 years working in the
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mainstream media and I did occasionally appeared on the
28:51
BBCI made made a documentary once for Channel 4.
28:57
I was columnist the Times, the Telegraph.
29:06
There wasn't there wasn't a moment when I thought, hang on a
29:12
second, I'm part of an evil lie machine.
29:15
There were, there weren't just wasn't.
29:17
I would just getting on and doing my thing and I think
29:22
people find that hard to believe.
29:23
You must have known. Well.
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Why? I mean, I suppose I was aware
29:30
that some of my feature ideas got would get shot down.
29:38
I not used but some of my ideas. Actually, I, I tended not to
29:45
think of my own ideas because it's easier when when your
29:50
editors give you give you an idea, you know, you haven't got
29:53
to sell it to them. But, but that said, I never
29:58
wrote, I would never write a piece that I didn't agree with
30:02
already. So it wasn't like I was being
30:05
coerced into having opinions in order to earn my living.
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But but again, that's that in a way is how the system works.
30:16
They have designated edgy right wing contrarian characters and
30:22
designated left wing. They've got Owen Jones on
30:27
standby and they've got all those Guardian people that we
30:31
mock. And I didn't think a lot of them
30:34
are aware that they are these these Punch and Judy characters.
30:39
They're just they they think that they're autonomous and that
30:44
they have their own opinions. Yeah, sure.
30:46
I think they'd have to to pull it off.
30:48
You know, this idea that they're all aware and conscious of their
30:51
role in it, just to me, seems absurd.
30:53
Yeah. It's a very clever system, which
30:57
is why it is has endured for so long.
30:59
Yeah, to see parts two and three of this interview with James
31:04
Dennenpole, as well as the final Painting and Support UK columns
31:07
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monthly subscription. Good eats and good weed,
31:14
basically, And it's what I wanted at the time.
31:18
And these things they have to do involve moral compromises.
31:22
They got so into the occult stuff that I think really bad
31:26
shit started happening to them. And I bought, I so bought into
31:29
it at the time. And I know, I think, yeah, but
31:32
it's all bollocks. They didn't even write their
31:34
stuff. And I thought, well, it's kind
31:36
of great. We're going to go on stage and
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he's going to explain it all to me and right but he but he
31:41
couldn't. What are your opinions on Flat
31:43
Earth? Oh, I think that is a SIOP.
31:45
That's my opinion, yeah. And I get called the NASA shell,
31:48
you know, like. So no, I I'd call you a globe
31:51
tard. Yeah.
31:51
Of course you would. Yeah, yeah, as I, as I've been
31:53
called many times, yeah. A favourable gloss you're
31:58
putting on what is essentially a form of gatekeeping because by
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because by saying beneficial, you're making a value judgement.
32:06
For me. Yeah, well, that is a very
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judgement. Yeah, but for me it's that's how
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I. See it?
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Yeah. So I mean, I don't care.
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What anyone does that is a form of gatekeeping.
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I don't have the authority to gatekeep anyone.
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You don't. No, it's true.
32:19
But but. So if people, if people want to
32:22
take my opinion as some kind of authority, then that's their
32:28
problem, James. Yes, here's a yes.
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Show me. No, what I need to do is OK.
32:36
Oh, it looks very much like me. Oh, it does.
32:41
Although there was worrying, worrying elements of of of
32:46
Prince. Was it called the?
32:48
I don't know, Prince. Prince.
32:49
What's the one who's going to be King Charming?
32:53
No. The, the evil.
32:54
The the, the William. No.
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It looks really like me. You've done a brilliant job.