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Austin Collie on first time top 10 matchup in the BYU-Utah rivalry, Being a villain for Utes fans, QB a strength for both teams + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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  Speaker 1: Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 at 92.1 FM. Welcome back
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  Speaker 1: to the Sean O'Connell Show. Welcome in one of the
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  Speaker 1: BYU football legends. And I hope he's okay with me
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  Speaker 1: saying one of the Utah villains of this great rivalry
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  Speaker 1: of ours here in the state in the Holy War.
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  Speaker 1: Austin Colley, former BYU wide receiver and NFL veteran is
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  Speaker 1: kind enough to join us here on the show. Austin,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for giving us some time. How are you, man?
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  Speaker 2: Good. How are you doing? All right.
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  Speaker 1: Is this the biggest Holy war game ever?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, man. I mean, you got two
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  Speaker 2: teams that are into the top 10, probably pretty evenly matched. I,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think it's going to be a, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a great game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we were on the set talking about it last
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  Speaker 1: year down in Provo about how this would be a
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  Speaker 1: tight game. And it was last year. It came down
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  Speaker 1: to maybe a muff punt. It came down to a
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  Speaker 1: tackle that you don't make or a ball that you
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  Speaker 1: don't tip or whatever. And that's happened so many times
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  Speaker 1: in this rivalry. And obviously the consequences in this particular
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  Speaker 1: one become a lot more interesting because if you make
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  Speaker 1: that play or you don't, We might be talking about
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  Speaker 1: college football playoff invite. We might be talking about a
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  Speaker 1: chance to play in the conference championship game. And obviously
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  Speaker 1: it harkens back to your era of Utah and BYU football,
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  Speaker 1: where you're two teams at the top of a shared conference.
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  Speaker 1: And while that one was played at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the year, oftentimes the stakes were who gets to be
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  Speaker 1: called champion at the end. Does it boil down almost
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  Speaker 1: as simply in this one for you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I would say so. I mean, again, going
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  Speaker 2: back to the fact that this is a, this is
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  Speaker 2: as unique as it gets, given that there are such
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  Speaker 2: high stakes and high implications on the game, right? Not,
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  Speaker 2: not just the fact that, that the rank is high,
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  Speaker 2: not just the fact that it's a conference championship, but this,
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  Speaker 2: this could have implications on, on getting into the college
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  Speaker 2: football playoff and having a shot at the national title. Right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think, I don't think the two teams have
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  Speaker 2: ever been in a spot where, at the same time
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  Speaker 2: as they are now, right. Or the same spot, I
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  Speaker 2: should say, as they are now. So it it's exciting, man.
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  Speaker 2: I obviously love this week. I love this game, but
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  Speaker 2: when you have two teams that are nationally recognized in
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  Speaker 2: the top 10, you know, national contenders I, I think
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  Speaker 2: that just adds more fuel to the fire and, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what college football is all about, all about. And
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  Speaker 2: it excites me, man.
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  Speaker 1: Both Kalani Satake and Morgan Scali have made their thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on the rivalry very clear. They've made their thoughts about
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  Speaker 1: one another very clear. They're obviously friends in real life.
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  Speaker 1: They worked together for a very long time. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of respect for one another in the way that they
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  Speaker 1: run their respective programs. And, you know, like. you've been
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  Speaker 1: at the center of controversy in this game. We've fanned
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  Speaker 1: the flames and the fueled the fires for years and
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  Speaker 1: years about this game. Do you think that these two
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  Speaker 1: guys being the head coaches changed the dynamic of the
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  Speaker 1: fan rivalry of the vitriol at all?
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  Speaker 2: No, maybe between the two teams directly, maybe, but But
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, man, the animosity between the two groups
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  Speaker 2: amongst the public is still fairly strong, right? Especially if
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  Speaker 2: you hop online and see the conversations and threads that
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  Speaker 2: are happening. Like, I think it's, you know, the animosity
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  Speaker 2: and the hate is real, right? And it still exists, right? So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe directly in between the two locker rooms,
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  Speaker 2: there may not be as much... I guess much juice
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  Speaker 2: there's juice, but probably not as much as given that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the history of the two coaches. And, and again,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if they aren't ranked nearly as high as
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  Speaker 2: they are, or if one of us is ranked, you know,
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  Speaker 2: higher than the other, I don't think this, this game is,
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  Speaker 2: is nearly as what it is. You know, yeah. as
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  Speaker 2: it is today. Right. I think, I think, uh, it
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  Speaker 2: may be a toned down, toned down version, obviously, but, uh,
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  Speaker 2: given where everybody stands, given that there is still that
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  Speaker 2: energy that exists within the state amongst, um, you know, the,
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  Speaker 2: the citizens of the state and the fans of the state,
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, that, that, uh, that, uh, rivalry, um,
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  Speaker 2: atmosphere is still alive and well.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So, uh, What gives you the most confidence about
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  Speaker 1: this BYU team? Obviously, I think it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a close one. I don't want to put words in
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  Speaker 1: your mouth, but I assume that you expect kind of
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  Speaker 1: the same. Where is BYU's biggest source of confidence or
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  Speaker 1: their best advantage in your mind?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's under center, right? I think Bear
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  Speaker 2: has a very unique... or a X factor, if you,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, about him, right? Like he, he, he
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  Speaker 2: exudes what, what, what a quarterback should be, especially the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback in a P four conference. Right. And, and what
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  Speaker 2: you wanted at leading a national championship team, like he's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, by any means necessary, he's going to will
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  Speaker 2: it to happen. And, and you know, I, I think
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  Speaker 2: everything goes through him, right? Like if he's playing well,
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  Speaker 2: he's throwing the ball well, and he's making plays with
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  Speaker 2: his feet. I think, I think we've got a good shot.
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  Speaker 1: And what about this Utah team makes you most nervous?
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  Speaker 1: If anything, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think the guy at our center, right? Like he can
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  Speaker 2: do damage. I was just telling somebody the other day, right? Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's an inch of turf that he hasn't,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that he hasn't had a rushing yard on, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like he he's, he's all over the place. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: given what we saw from BYU against UCF and, and,
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  Speaker 2: and the trouble that they had an open field tackling
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  Speaker 2: against that quarterback, you know, I think, I think Dan
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  Speaker 2: beer is a better talent than that kid is better
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  Speaker 2: on his feet, better creating plays. Now, I mean, Devin
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  Speaker 2: also has his, has, you know, his, his, his downfalls,
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  Speaker 2: which is, you know, he, he, he is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a liability to passing game as, as in,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he he'll, he'll force things to happen. And
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  Speaker 2: typically when a quarterback forces things, there's turnovers that occur. So,
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  Speaker 2: but it, you know, BYU is able to contain him somewhat,
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  Speaker 2: keep him in the pocket and force him to throw
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  Speaker 2: the ball. I think we've got a good shot. If
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  Speaker 2: they allow him to get outside the edges and create
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  Speaker 2: with his feet, we're going to, we're going to have
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  Speaker 2: an issue.
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  Speaker 1: Austin Colley is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell
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  Speaker 1: show talking about the upcoming Holy war. Uh, did you
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  Speaker 1: ever play a game at 10 AM?
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  Speaker 2: I did man. And they are the worst. They are
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  Speaker 2: the worst. Um, I've never been a fan of morning games.
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  Speaker 2: I've never been a fan of day games, rather. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not a day game guy. I kind of like to
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  Speaker 2: wake up and go through a routine and really kind of...
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  Speaker 2: you know, visualize and have time to kind of gather
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  Speaker 2: my thoughts and, and, and maybe have a meeting or
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  Speaker 2: two and a walkthrough. And like, I, I didn't love
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  Speaker 2: that going into a game and maybe it's because I,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I love playing in high school so much
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  Speaker 2: and I love the Friday night lights. I love playing
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  Speaker 2: under lights. But man, 10 AM, dude, I'm just barely
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  Speaker 2: waking up. Like I, I'm not, I'm not ready to
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  Speaker 2: play a game. Like my head's in the clouds still.
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  Speaker 2: So I hate morning games.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously both teams have to deal with it. Is
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  Speaker 1: there any advantage to being the home team for the
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  Speaker 1: Utes in that scenario? Or because it's an in-state game
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  Speaker 1: and there's no time zone or anything like that, does
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  Speaker 1: it even out?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think there's always a
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  Speaker 2: home field advantage regardless, right? Like, especially Rice-Eccles. Like, there's
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  Speaker 2: definitely an edge that Utah has playing home, given their
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  Speaker 2: fans and given the environment that's there, right? You could
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  Speaker 2: say the same for BYU when we're at BYU. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, regardless of the time, I think there's definitely
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  Speaker 2: an advantage that Utah has of just being able to
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  Speaker 2: play in their home stadium at Rice-Eccles, right? Just because
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  Speaker 2: it is such a a great environment if you're a
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  Speaker 2: Utah fan and Utah football player.
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  Speaker 1: One of the big questions heading into this weekend, and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully we get some more insight on it soon, is
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  Speaker 1: the availability or lack thereof for L.J.
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  Speaker 2: Martin.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that BYU was able to beat Notre
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  Speaker 1: Dame without him. That was on their home field, like
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  Speaker 1: we're just talking about. If he is available, who knows
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  Speaker 1: how close to full speed he's going to be. And
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  Speaker 1: as a guy who played at the very highest level
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  Speaker 1: and I know had to come back from injuries, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if he ever had any high ankle stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but your thoughts on LJ Martin and the X factor
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  Speaker 1: he is in this game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I think production wise, I don't see,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how many weeks has it been since he's
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  Speaker 2: been injured? Five, six.
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  Speaker 1: I think this will be six weeks from the day
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  Speaker 1: he exited the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, from an on-field production standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: I don't see much contribution there. I don't. But from
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  Speaker 2: accountability standpoint, Utah having to at least account for him
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  Speaker 2: and at least game plan for him and account for
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  Speaker 2: him when he's on the field, I do think that
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  Speaker 2: does something for BYU. That gives him an edge, right?
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  Speaker 2: If he's on the field, you cannot... you know, not
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  Speaker 2: always keep a tab on where he is and, and, and,
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  Speaker 2: you know what he could potentially do when he does
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  Speaker 2: get the ball. right. Whether he's injured or full go
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  Speaker 2: or not. Right. The kid is always going to be
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  Speaker 2: a threat when he's on the field. Now, you know,
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  Speaker 2: having had a high ankle sprain, man, I mean, it's, it's,
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  Speaker 2: it's a bear, right? Like, especially if you're a running back,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you, you might lose a little bit of bounce. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, being gone six weeks, man, I mean, you,
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  Speaker 2: you definitely, it takes you a game or two, just
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  Speaker 2: kind of get back into the rhythm of things. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't anticipate seeing LJ at full form, but that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that he's still not going to be impactful
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  Speaker 2: in the game in terms of the way Utah has
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  Speaker 2: to scheme.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at the rest of the schedule for BYU,
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  Speaker 1: and it's almost a silly thing to ask because this
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  Speaker 1: rivalry game is the game of the year every year,
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  Speaker 1: but BYU has a win over Notre Dame in the
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  Speaker 1: back pocket, right? They also stubbed their toe and lost
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  Speaker 1: on the road to a UCF team that didn't look
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  Speaker 1: particularly good against Baylor. And so their margin for error
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  Speaker 1: in the conference championship race is kind of gone, but
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  Speaker 1: for lack of a better way to put it, how
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  Speaker 1: badly do they need this game in your mind from
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  Speaker 1: the big picture, trying to achieve the goal of making
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  Speaker 1: a college football playoff perspective, because that Notre Dame win
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  Speaker 1: changes everything in my mind.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think, I think this game is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely critical only because Only because if.
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  Speaker 1: You lose the.
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  Speaker 2: UCF and then you lose the Utah, who's another top
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  Speaker 2: 10 ranked team, anybody in the committee can say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: maybe Notre Dame was a fluke. I mean, you look
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  Speaker 2: at the fumble on by, by CJ Carr on the
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  Speaker 2: two yard line, you look at the, you know, all the,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I don't think this is a thing
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  Speaker 2: or was even a factor, but you know, everyone that
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  Speaker 2: was talking about a one second, you know, the one
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  Speaker 2: second left on the clock and getting, you know, Notre
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  Speaker 2: Dame had an opportunity to run another play. Like, like,
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden now Notre Dame is kind of
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  Speaker 2: framed as like a, you know, Notre Dame was off
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  Speaker 2: that week rather than BYU was humming. And, and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: using that as an excuse as, you know, it was
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  Speaker 2: just kind of a, a one hit wonder type of win.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Utah does, I think a lot of, if
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  Speaker 2: BYU manages to pull out a win and beat Utah
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  Speaker 2: at home, I think that definitely validates them as a team,
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  Speaker 2: as a top 10 team, as a playoff team. Right. And,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean, to be honest with you, Utah hasn't
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  Speaker 2: really played anybody to Notre Dame's caliber yet. So I
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  Speaker 2: think this is going to add to Utah's value as well.
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  Speaker 2: And the crazy thing in college football, especially this year, man,
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  Speaker 2: is anyone can win on any, any even Saturday, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like we're seeing more parody across Utah, all conferences, all
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  Speaker 2: college football than we have ever seen. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's not only going to be important for them to
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  Speaker 2: go beat Utah, but they're going to have to turn around.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to have to play Baylor. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: have to play Kansas. They're going to have to play Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 2: which again, you know, these big 12 teams have proven
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  Speaker 2: that there isn't other than BYU and Utah and maybe
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  Speaker 2: Texas Tech, there's not much consistency after that in terms
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  Speaker 2: of what team is showing up on that Saturday to play. Right.
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  Speaker 2: You can get the best version of the worst version
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  Speaker 2: of each one of those teams. In my opinion, I have.
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  Speaker 1: To back up just a second. Cause you said you
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  Speaker 1: don't think it was a thing. You don't think Notre
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  Speaker 1: Dame should have been given another second.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I think, I think, yeah, to me,
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  Speaker 2: the replay is the replay. There's one second, there's one
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  Speaker 2: second on the clock and I didn't look too much
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  Speaker 2: into it. I'll be honest with you, Sean. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: look too much into it. I'm just going off of
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  Speaker 2: what people said. I barely even took a look at
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  Speaker 2: the video.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: To me, you know, there, there's a, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of bad calls and there were a lot, I was
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  Speaker 2: at the game. There were a lot of bad calls
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  Speaker 2: across the board throughout the entire game. Right. And in
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  Speaker 2: my mind, things, things kind of even out. Right. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a big believer on whoever wins, you know, whoever wanted,
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  Speaker 2: they were meant to win the ball game. That's who
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  Speaker 2: won the ball game. And, you know, again, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't really seen the video. I've just heard the
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  Speaker 2: rumblings of, of people going back and forth saying, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there was one second left on the clock
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  Speaker 2: that should have gotten, you know, it should have gotten
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  Speaker 2: another shot at it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, to me, I don't mean to interrupt,
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  Speaker 1: but that is the result. Whether Notre Dame wants to
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  Speaker 1: be mad about it from now until the end of time,
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  Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. What happened happened, and it's not going
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  Speaker 1: to change in the result. There's no asterisk on that win,
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  Speaker 1: but the last three weeks... big 12 officials have screwed
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  Speaker 1: up some important scenarios. And it just, it just happens
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  Speaker 1: that BYU has been involved in all of those. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's as much as I kind of like
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  Speaker 1: tongue in cheek. We'll say it's a conspiracy to favor BYU.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think actually believe that. But if, if this
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  Speaker 1: holy war is as close as most of them are,
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  Speaker 1: We got big 12 officials on this game. My, my
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  Speaker 1: sincere hope Austin is that we don't have a scenario
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  Speaker 1: where the conversation after the game is about a call.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was in 2024 is about a call. Like,
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  Speaker 1: like it was against Notre Dame. I want this to
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  Speaker 1: be a game that we talk about it and say,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I can't believe that that's how it
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  Speaker 1: played out, but without the referees involved. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: trust that we're going to get that because of how
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  Speaker 1: bad it's been in the big 12.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's not going to happen. There's going to
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  Speaker 2: be some questionable calls. Whether you win or lose, I
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  Speaker 2: always think the officials can't be perfect. And they may
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  Speaker 2: miss a call. They may miss a handful of calls.
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  Speaker 2: But when so much is at stake, when you've got
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  Speaker 2: two teams that have a history like these two teams do,
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  Speaker 2: And they want, and, and, and again, everything is kind
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  Speaker 2: of has been amounting to this week, to this game for,
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  Speaker 2: for big 12 college football implications. Like whoever loses is
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  Speaker 2: going to go back and say, Hey, the only reason
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  Speaker 2: why this happened was because of this call, this call
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  Speaker 2: and this call. right? So I, I, I think there's,
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  Speaker 2: there's going to be a handful of bad calls. I
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  Speaker 2: do agree with you. Hopefully those bad calls do not
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  Speaker 2: transpire as close as they did two or three years
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  Speaker 2: ago to the, you know, the, the, the, the clock
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  Speaker 2: zero in the fourth quarter. Right. I will say though,
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  Speaker 2: it was pass interference. .
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  Speaker 1: .
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  Speaker 2: Sure. All I know, the guy,
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  Speaker 2: the guy was draped on him from the get go. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, BYU won that game.
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  Speaker 1: Utah had what? Six more plays where they could have
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  Speaker 1: stopped them. Two plays after that, a ball goes through
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  Speaker 1: the hands of Cam Calhoun, who he should have picked
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  Speaker 1: it and he didn't. So BYU made the plays they
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  Speaker 1: needed to make. No one, no one can take that
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  Speaker 1: away from the Cougs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But all right. Prediction. How does it play out?
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: That's a great question. I think the crew's got them
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: by three.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: .
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: .
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: it is always going
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: to be a dog fight, man. It's always going to
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: be a dog fight.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. I think that's what we get Saturday
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: at 10 AM, which is not Austin Colley's favorite time
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: to play a game. We learned that today. Thanks so much.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us some time today. We'll talk again soon.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thanks for having me.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Austin Colley, the infamous BYU wide receiver from 2004, then 2007, 2008,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: when he departed the program, At BYU, he had all
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the records. He was passed by Cody Hoffman in 2010,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: but Austin Colley exited his career as the best wide
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: receiver in BYU history.