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Sean O’Malley: The Next Conor McGregor | E98 · In Search Of Excellence

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Sean O'Malley: I've always set the bar high. When people say how much money do I want to be a billion, like saying that now, I'm not even close when I was 17 years old saying I want to be the UFC champion best in the world, it sounds silly from coming from a kid from Helena Montana who's never even an MMA fight. So now for me to say I want to be a billionaire.
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Sean O'Malley: Someday, which I will be is, is you know, I got to put in the work and learn how to you know, make my money make me money
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Randall Kaplan: give us the details. I really don't think a lot of people know what your training regimen is. So give us give us the details. When you wake up. What do you do? What do you eat? How much do you train per day? And when you say you have no distractions Does that mean you're not watching TV?
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Randall Kaplan: What aren't you doing?
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Sean O'Malley: Um so I've been I do like 10 minute meditation every morning it's the first thing I do wake up go let my chickens out there for my chickens and it's the coyotes really get them go out let the chickens out. I have a recovery room red light cold plunge PMF machine you know foam roller just to have a full room for recovery. Go in there do 10 minute meditation on my red light. I do 12 minutes on my PMF machine. What is that? I think people don't know hold electric magnetic field. I don't know the science. I don't know. I usually just listen to smarter people.
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Sean O'Malley: Talk about shit and then I you know Gary brecha he's he's mentioned the PMF machine but I try to stay up to date on you know what's good for you what's a good routine and this is I've had multiple different routines.
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Sean O'Malley: This is just the routine I'm doing right now. 10 minutes on the red light 12 minutes on PMF machine and then I have my cold blood has been fucking cold lately. So I've been only doing like a minute in there because it's so hard for me to warm up.
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Sean O'Malley: That for me before practice I like I'll do like a 30 minute warmup I want to be sweating before practice starts. And sometimes if it's so cold out, I do two or three minutes in a cold punch. It literally will take me so long to warm up. So in the morning I've just been doing one minute in the cold plunge than I usually am making you know fresh eggs from the chickens eggs and oatmeal in the morning. I make my own coffee AeroPress and it's delicious. I love making my own coffee. It's a nice little routine. I play some jazz in the morning some just some good or sometimes I'll play some just depends what mood I've been playing just morning jazz making my coffee making my eggs doing all that I try not to drink coffee for 90 minutes until after I wake up I think Andrew Huber mints said that again. I don't know the science and shit I just listened to smarter people and try to implement it in my life. I train at 10 o'clock I train at 1030 I get there at 10 Yeah so I take so I practice starts at 1030 I get there at 10 so I leave my house at 940 I'll be practicing in a separate gym not your house right now. Yes for I'm just I'm just going over like a basic Monday. Practice starts at 1030 I get there at 10 start warming up for about 30 minutes make sure my back real warmed up my bloods flowing I just for injury prevention. I've had so many injuries and it's just like it just you have to get a good warm and that's one of the biggest things I've learned and one advice I would actually give is get a good warm up. So warm up 10 From 10 to 1030 practice starts at 1030 Usually we do hard grappling on those days hit mitts whatever. It is more of like an MMA practice you have a coach who you spar with I've Tim who's my best friend coach him and then we he owns the gym so we have we have a good we will sit group of people I've really high level people that come in and train with us Monday morning and then I'll go home chill rest recover. In camp I'm a big Napper 20 minutes to play a 20 minute guided meditation on YouTube literally as simple as 20 minute nap meditation on YouTube Play that turn the phone on Do Not Disturb I lay on my Redman and go in that room and I'll map like I've got napping down like got it down. Now wake up from that whether it fall asleep or not I feel recharged feel good. Have lunch do all that stuff and then I'll train again around four or five usually I have my strength and conditioning coach in one I mean can't come out to me and we'll have my James getting set up right now because I just moved but we'll do strengthing auditioning at my house. Each practice lasts around an hour hour and a half and do that and then at night do my do my I do two three minutes in the cold plunge I got my hot tub stretch II eat a good dinner. And I'm in bed by 930 10 Yeah, that's pretty average day.
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Randall Kaplan: So what time exactly does it start and what time are you done with the actual everyday regimen? Yeah,
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Sean O'Malley: no, I never wake up to an alarm rarely unless I have to unless I have something I have to do. I my wake up from seven to eight every morning just naturally. And then I mean In bed, usually asleep Ira aisle 1030 I would say I'm out. That's pretty average. That's another thing. I'm just learning. I listen to the Matthew Walker podcast, Joe Rogan think it was like old podcast, maybe 10 years old. I remember listening to that. Tim told me to like bro, careful if you listen to it, it's gonna fuck with you like talking about just all the different benefits you get from sleeping and all the things you're missing out not sleeping good. I listen to that podcast changed my life. Like my, they say that one of the biggest things about sleeping is just going to bed and waking up around the same time every day.
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Sean O'Malley: Like there's one of the biggest things like I've been doing that for a long, long, long time.
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Sean O'Malley: I've been doing a cold plunge for probably 567 years started learning how to meditate same time around there. So I just implementing little things.
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Sean O'Malley: Throughout that I learned each fightcamp it's just gotten me to pretty much where I am. I feel like you
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Randall Kaplan: mentioned what you eat important diet, or you do eat well when you're not training and you can eat whatever you want, right?
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Randall Kaplan: Because you're just shedding and burning so many calories every day.
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Sean O'Malley: I mean, everyone's different for me, like, I feel like a lot of I have to eat clean or cause inflammation, and then I go and get injured training. So for me, I have a nutritionist Dan Garner, I've been working with him for probably five years or whatever, whatever it's been, we do bloodwork every, you know, three, four times a year, the bloodwork saliva, stool, hair samples, any anything we can get data on that to see the insides of how my body works, how what causes inflammation, what I should be eating, what's helped me recover, what nutrients am I deficient in, that's not helping me get to the next level next stage. So we're doing all that he makes a meal plan I have a meal prep company and they make food I eat it. So I try to take as much stress off of myself as I can as far as like I'm not having to make meals I'm not having to think about what should I eat at all that take care of
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Randall Kaplan: so you'd like to have fun going out at night so is drinking part of the program or can you drink alcohol and go out and party and do that stuff?
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Sean O'Malley: You got to be careful with that that is a big distraction. I'm not a very big drinker but I do like to you know go out with the boys and have a good time slam some happy dads but yeah, I definitely don't have a I've known I know a lot of people you know like get get some money make some money get a free bottle at the club you know they're there every weekend I don't I don't really have an issue with that especially no and I have like a big fight coming up I love having a fight coming up it helps me it's way easier to stay dialed it's way easier to stay focused so but yeah I definitely enjoy going out with the boys
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Randall Kaplan: and that's cool part of the diet but you're not doing any of that pre fight right how far in advance a fight is it no drinking no smoking no nothing Yeah,
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Sean O'Malley: typically I'd say who was smoking I quit about three weeks out I use a vaporizer nice quality vaporizer with a quality marijuana not some shit weed that's full of pesticides and grown with you know just as fast as possible to get it out to as many people as possible good organic quality marijuana with a quality vaporizer is the best way to healthiest way for me to smoke and I really feel like that's an issue but I quit that about three weeks out drinking usually about 12 weeks out I am going out tonight with the boys UFC 296 It's a big big night I'm going to be a Zook and I have worked
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Randall Kaplan: with you alright, yeah, yeah, okay, I mean you know
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Sean O'Malley: Yeah, it's gonna be should be a good time I have an appearance there so it'd be fun. Go get that out of my system last one out before the fight but yeah, 12 weeks dialed in. No drinking no partying is focused and gotta get get. I've been pretty dialed right now been pretty focused right now with my training. to I don't feel like if I felt like man, I really should, should do this. I would do it. But I feel like I'm in such a good spot right now.
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Sean O'Malley: I'm healthy. I've been training hard. I'm an eating good my weights where it needs to be mentally. I'm good. That I can go out and have a good night with the boys like Friday night last night. We're in Vegas. I could go out and get the ball do whatever we didn't we stayed in we got sick. Got some good sleep had a busy day to day so we're gonna enjoy it tonight.
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Randall Kaplan: I think our fans like me, they see people get hit in the face, whatever is bleeding. I mean, it's been brutal. How do you deal with the pain of getting hit? And what does it feel like? I mean, it's got to hurt like,
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Sean O'Malley: I don't even I don't even like watching. People get knocked out like close up and like punched and hit. I watch it. I'm like, how do they do that? So Oh shit, but I do.
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Sean O'Malley: But for me, it's like, I just try not to get hit. I don't want to get hit. I prefer not getting hit. Which I feel like helps.
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Sean O'Malley: You know, partially that's like pry why I'm so good. I feel like but also I know I can take shot and I know I'm not gonna break I have that dog in me to where it's like, I'm not going to get hit and kind of fold over. You know, my fight with Peter Young cracked me hard couple times, you know and I definitely didn't feel like quitting mentally there wasn't like, oh, well we could get away out right now like a lot of fighters deal with that. So when I say I don't like getting hits because I'm very conscious of how bad that is for your brain like getting hit and getting concussions over and over and over it is not good for you like it's just horrible for you. So I'm trying not to get hit do my best not to get hit, but it happens obviously. I just deal with it when it happens and, you know, try to hit them harder and not get hit. You worry about
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Randall Kaplan: CTE. And you're there's a lot of studies right now and it really locks people out forever and it's a horrible disease.
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Sean O'Malley: Yeah, that's terrifying. You're worried about it? Yeah, definitely. I quit sparring for the most part, like from 16 to 2324 sparring Wednesday sparring twice a week, constantly having concussions every month I was getting concussed and it's scary to think back on like, how did those years affect me? Maybe not right now. But in five years. I sparred pretty hard. Leading up so going in this next slide.
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Sean O'Malley: I've said a few times already and last ones there. No, Thursday a couple days ago. It's crack a few times. If you think about it, like man, that's definitely not good for you. But it's like this is I'm in it right now. Like I don't, I made a commitment to my not only myself but Hunter day and I told them I want to be the biggest star in UFC. I want to be the best in the world. That's just kind of where I'm at right now.
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Sean O'Malley: It's like, I'm going to do everything I can to do that. We only live once and I gotta that's where I'm that's where I'm at right now. Things can change, you know, so I definitely spar way less than most people like I have to sparring camp that when I'm gonna have a fight Come on, you have to get that you have to get that feeling or I do but outside of camp I will spar at all zero I won't get hit once like my last fight against I'll do zero brain damage didn't hit me maybe hit me once or a little bit but didn't get any any brain damage by before that with Peter Yan.
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Sean O'Malley: Definitely price and brain damage. Let's
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Randall Kaplan: talk about one of the most pleasurable activities in the world. Some people think it's the most sex Oh God. So Brandi love was on my show. And one of the biggest porn stars in the world and and it's interesting because people criticize her even though most people watch porn. Dr. Mike Roizen, Achieve Wellness doctor at the Cleveland Clinic was on my show, and their studies actually show that the more sex you have a longer and healthier life that you're going to live.
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Randall Kaplan: You've you've talked about injecting stem cells into your penis. And let's talk about what that does. Did it work? And does it lead to more success in the in the bedroom? Is it all it's cracked up to be? Um,
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Sean O'Malley: you know what I didn't I wasn't I didn't get I wasn't there to get stem cells for that reason I just got offered it. And I was like, You know what? Sure if I get I don't know if it's like maybe if there's something going on, then you get them and then it works again. But I didn't like my shit working good right now. So I didn't really feel like it was working better. It's kind of felt the same. So maybe if you have an issue, and then you get them and then it makes it better. But when it's good, you get them. I didn't really feel anything extra.
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Randall Kaplan: It's supposed to improve. When I did some research on this. I never heard of such a thing. I guess it improves your girth as improved.
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Randall Kaplan: I heard birth and orgasms
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Sean O'Malley: unfortunately didn't get the extra girth that I was looking for. But you know what? We're still working with something to upset about it.
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Randall Kaplan: So I think a lot of people don't know exactly what this is. It's nice SEC show. But I think if you could explain how stem cells get injected into your penis, I think that's something that people would be very interested in knowing about. Yeah,
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Sean O'Malley: the lady doctor.
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Sean O'Malley: Well, or male doctor, I think you can you know, choose. I choose to have a girl doctor.
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Sean O'Malley: Yeah, they just grab it and hit it in the shaft. And
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Randall Kaplan: do they numb it before? It's got to hurt.
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Sean O'Malley: That's too bad Tim. Tim, my coach did weird because we're in in Mexico, and they offered it and I'm like, Yeah, should we do it? Should we do it? So he did it first and he elbowed the guy doing it. So he got like halfway in elbowed the guy that had agreed do it and his shit was bruised. He sat for a couple days weeks or whatever.
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Sean O'Malley: Mine I just laid there breathe fucking hit it. Definitely didn't feel great. But yeah, no, no real great side effects. This
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Randall Kaplan: You it can can you talk about that? I mean, does it work? And I
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Sean O'Malley: mean, I right now where I'm at in life, it's just like, labels and this that I don't know. I don't. Danny, she's my baby mama. She I've been with her for probably almost 10 years now. She prefers me not to talk about it. Because she's very, very quiet. Very not social media, not like in it. So when I started bringing it up first because I thought I've always I always think it's such an interesting conversation.
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Sean O'Malley: Because I've seen so many couples like Mike bros, he's cheating on you is he's just telling you, he's not. And everyone's like, that's okay.
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Sean O'Malley: But I bring I'm like, Hey, I'd like to hook up with chicks like, and I'm the bad guy for being honest. But every guy is cheating on the girl. And everyone is just like, that's just what society is. For the most part a lot of girls are just my man wouldn't do that.
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Sean O'Malley: Like, he definitely is, for the most part. Like that's just the reality of it. And I was just always very honest with Danny, like, hey, like, this was before I made money before I was popular. No one knew me. I was like, Hey, this is how I am. I remember dating two chicks in high school. Like, I just always liked liking girls and talking to girls and doing all that. So I was always very honest with Danny, about that. And you know, it's not. It's not just fucking easy. It's but I don't think any relationship is. So we've had our ups and downs with it. Like she's had, you know, I've put her through a lot. But I've always always very honest with her as far as like, Hey, this is just who I am. And yeah, definitely a lot of hate comes from that. Which, again, it's just other insecure people like we How could you do that? Like this? This is what it is.
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Randall Kaplan: You're famous.
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Randall Kaplan: Yeah. You're rich. You get attention wherever you go. Yeah, I'm sure girls are throwing themselves at you.
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Sean O'Malley: Not enough.
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Randall Kaplan: Where does where does it happen? I mean, I know at basketball games, sometimes I know a lot of my friends you know, the girls hang out when you walk out? Are they? Are you meeting them? When you're at Sprouts? Are you doing like you're at nightclubs, or are you going to parties? What's happening
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Sean O'Malley: there? Um, this kind of it's not even like people think it's not like I'm hooking up with a new girl every weekend. It's just like having that freedom or that or like that. I think it just comes down to freedom. And yeah, I don't want to say too much too, because Danny has asked me she's like, I just don't really like when you talk about it. But it's Yeah, I mean, everyone has their own lane. I think for most people it's either you're monogamous or you're not dating?
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Sean O'Malley: Like it's that's the option. And yeah, I don't know right now.
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Sean O'Malley: It's maybe someday I would be like, alright, I can I can shut that off. But I got fucking testosterone running through me.
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Sean O'Malley: I'm fucking or we're born to re recreate reproduce. This is like, the deep This is that's in us all it's it's an every guy.
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Sean O'Malley: We'd like chicks. Maybe some like chicks more than others. I just love the lay like chicks like hey, and I talk and like ripping them off. But like chit chatting with them. But uh, yeah, I can already see all the comments in here. Yeah, I It's funny because it's always just guys, insecure guys that are a comment and like, You're a piece of shit. Like you're cheating on your girl and or you can't get girls. A lot of guys a lot of ugly motherfuckers are like, I would never do that. So we got to get no girls. You can't even if you get one, you're gonna be loyal to her because that's the only one you're ever gonna get.
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Sean O'Malley: No other girls are going to ask to hang out with you. So it's easy for you to be loyal. Or sometimes, like I'm 29 right now, like, maybe I'm just not wise enough. Maybe it's a mental weakness. Maybe I just need to be able to shut that off. I don't know. I'm just going through life figuring it out. I don't have the answers. I could be wrong like we right. I don't know. I don't even know if there's a wrong or right. As long as I think as long as I'm a good person. Taking care of people I love and you know, I think it comes down to just being a good person.
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Randall Kaplan: Someone told me before I had kids that you really find out the meaning of life once you have kids. Yeah. A three year old. Yep. I also have a three year old. I've got a seven year old. 19 year old and to 21 year old. Oh, wow. And it's the best thing on earth.
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Randall Kaplan: How did having your three year old David change your life? And are you gonna have more kids?
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Sean O'Malley: Yeah, having a three year that's been the best thing. Elena is like my little princess. And it's, it's just crazy. Like, even now I'm going to be gone for like three days.
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Sean O'Malley: And when I get back when they want, she's going to just seem like she grew so much. But yeah, that I've always wanted kids. I remember wanting kids. And I was like in middle school thinking, I remember breaking up with a girl. I think it was like eighth grade because she didn't want kids like it was like, I can't be with you. I want. I wanted to have kids from an early age, not in eighth grade. I didn't want to have kids in eighth grade, but I wanted that kid someday.
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Sean O'Malley: So I've always wanted kids. I knew that for whatever reason. I wanted to be a dad. I enjoy it.
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Sean O'Malley: I love it. We'll have more possibly Danny you know the one baby mom right now. She doesn't really want to you know she does. She never really wanted to in the first place. But she's a great mom. Like, I'm so glad it was her and no one else because she just does such a good job learning and taking initiative of like, okay, what do I need to do to become a great mom. And a big thing for me was like, I want my baby breastfed like that's so the huge thing for me.
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Sean O'Malley: And it's so super important that I want them to get that nutrients and be taken care of that way. And Danny did a good job and land with like two little over two and Elena kind of stopped started weaning off of it. But yeah, I definitely go back and forth. I'm like Elena's perfect one. And it can be one and done. But I'm also like, kind of want to tribe just depends where I'm at what headspace I'm in. Sometimes I want to have, like, I go back and forth. Like I want to have one then somebody I want to. I want to launch. I think you know find it once you become a certain level of financial freedom to where you can have multiple kids. It makes it's different. Like some people that are like get barely imbibed.
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Sean O'Malley: Like, I don't really want kids like this is enough for me right now. I can, you know, afford to have that. So we'll see. We'll see how it plays out. But yeah, Elena has been nothing. It's been amazing. Obviously, there's times where it's not. They have little tantrums, but the the times they're not doing that makeup are way better.
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Randall Kaplan: You'll see when the kids get older and to do fun things for your kids. You have these special moments. It's just great here with my son, Charlie here for the fight. stoked to see you is super, super happy last year. So going back to to the kid thing. What was it like when your daughter was born holding her for the first time of your life? What was the exact feeling when she came out and you held there for the first time?
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Sean O'Malley: Yeah, it was a cool experience. It's so weird, because you can kind of like remember it vividly. But it's also like, I think like 3am We were there for so long. We're sleep deprived the contractions and like just like a crazy moment. But we didn't find out if she was a boy or girl. Like we kept that at surprise. I thought that was really, really, really cool and fun. And with a great surprise in my head 100% I think it's a boy would have been money on it. I would have bet my life on it. Like it's a boy, it's gonna be a boy. And so when she came out, I remember she had to have we're gonna do it naturally that she had to do the C section and I remember them cutting it and I looked and I shouldn't I was like, Holy fuck, she's in half, like pulling her out. Now. Yeah, I remember like that pretty vividly. But holding there for the first time. Just so tiny. It was is so weird. I remember. Just like, yeah, I don't I don't know. It's hard to explain. I mean, like I said, and you're sleep deprived, been up for our many hours, then it's like, okay, now I have to go to a seashell C section. So that's kind of like, you know, a lot going on. You know, it's it was a failure of drugs, almost. But yeah, that was that was a cool experience and healthy baby.
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Sean O'Malley: That's all you want. At that time. Just get her out. Tell her tell me she's healthy. And then yeah, that's good.
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Randall Kaplan: One of the best things I can tell you and advice I have as a dad is take your daughter on a one on one trip every single year, because we're all busy. You're very successful. You got a lot going on. I've done okay. And as you have more and more kids, I got five taken away every single year. It's the best thing you can ever do. Tuning everything out as your kids get older putting on cell phones, and I highly, highly recommend that you do I've told my friends so that's total life changer. The relationship with your kids.
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Sean O'Malley: Definitely. You know, I definitely will appreciate that advice I feel very lucky for because a lot of people are like, Oh, I think I'm so busy and I am busy. I do a lot of different things. But for the most part, like I basically gave you a rundown through my day train in the morning training in the afternoon afternoon. I'm training in my house. I'm home most of the day.
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Sean O'Malley: I feel very lucky for how much I get to be with Elena like and now she's three so she wants to go do go to jujitsu go to the gym with me. So she'll go run around while I'm training. Like, I'm very lucky how much I'm able to be with her. But yeah, no, I appreciate that. It definitely I think there'll be fun taking her on a little trip and it's nice to and Danny's not around. It's just me and her. Because when Danny's around it's like sometimes like, she wants mommy more, but like Mommy's gone.
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Sean O'Malley: Like it just me and her. She wants daddy, she found out she wants daddy issue and he's hungry. That you know, so like, it is nice, but it's just me and Elena. It is very, it's different than when it's like all three of us. Yeah,
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Randall Kaplan: same thing on my house. I mean, kids walk their mom, especially when they're young. And when they're not there. It's fun putting a bedtime, you know, live on Mommy, and then you struggle with that. It's yeah, it's a great thing. Are you going to drive her to school every day and pick her up every day?
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Sean O'Malley: Um, I mean, she's like, she's She just turned three. So what was school kindergarten like five? Five for it. We'll see what we'll see what the plan is what we'll see where I'm living. We'll see where it was. Schools are around. Yeah, we'll see. Got a couple of years to kind of figure that out. But I mean, that would be cute. Sometimes school is kind of scary sometimes to as like you just never know. Especially nowadays, what they're teaching the school shootings. Like there's just it's kind of terrifying.
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Sean O'Malley: Thinking about dropping the lane off at school with people. I don't know. Like right now.
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Sean O'Malley: Danny's moms are full time nanny. So it's like if she's not with me or snow with Danny, she's with Danny's mom snow day and mostly with my mom. So right now, it's like, it's very comforting knowing she's with people that are in our family.
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Sean O'Malley: Like dropping off at school kind of seems freaky for now. A lot
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Randall Kaplan: of famous kids too. They eat a lot of shit, right? I mean, they criticize their dads or if you're a pro football player. I mean, I know a few and then got kids and they lose. They take a lot of shit.
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Randall Kaplan: Are you worried about that at all?
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Sean O'Malley: No, not really. I think yeah, I don't know. I think you know, just live by example. I feel like you know Elena sees me stretching doing my red light getting in the coal plant not wanting to come on data you can do it like doing these you know just do unhealthy habits I think it's going to create a good person and she's going to be it's crazy because she could turn out however you could raise a you know a kid really good. And I could turn out however they turn out but for the most part, I think we just give her the right tools and you know, go with the flow.
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Randall Kaplan: Let's go back to Money are motivated by money the young age and I do a ton of coaching. Right coach hundreds of people throughout the years and I always ask them when they're younger. Rank what is most important to you? And money is always number one. Right? I think that changes as you get in your you know, later 20s 30s I think it's bad advice. I think you should pursue your passion first. But you were motivated by money. What's your advice to people who are motivated by money first and foremost as their number one goal in their professional life?
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Sean O'Malley: Oh it's money the more money I make, the more money I've made the more money or the more I've realized like I haven't made enough money in my head enough money. So I don't know I feel like I don't really feel like I have advice to give you I don't really feel like I'm in a position yet to be like, like I've figured anything out.
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Sean O'Malley: I just thought I've always been pretty good with money. I've never really spent it carelessly ish. It fly here on a jet you know, those aren't very cheap.
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Sean O'Malley: So sometimes I do stupid shit.
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Sean O'Malley: Like that was a stupid but stuff like
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Randall Kaplan: that solving Instagramming without you're having a good time on the job.
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Randall Kaplan: Like we're going to Vegas
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Sean O'Malley: to the press conference. You know, Cheeto flew here on Southwest so it's just like
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Randall Kaplan: did you fly first class? No, hell, there was no first class on Southwest.
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Sean O'Malley: I mean, he did even if he didn't fly southwest Oh, guaranteed and fly first class. But, but for the most part, I feel like just being smart with your money is like I know I have some buddies that are just so stupid with their money they'll have $100 in their bank account and they'll just go and get a Starbucks coffee and you know go grab a couple snacks. I'm like bro you don't have what do you what are you doing? Like you don't have you shouldn't be doing that. So I feel like I was just lucky for my mom she was on the extreme end of the where it's like a like a disease to where it's like scary like mom on money to where I feel like I was able to balance that out and be smart with money but there's Yeah, save it and I'm trying to learn more on the investment side of stuff like I bought the houses and stuff but those houses aren't going to make me $100 million like this houses will be good good to store the money or whatever keep the money in a good spot. But I'm learning on wanting to learn more about how to how to invest where to invest getting equity and brand because right now I have a lot of brand deals. I have some equity deals.
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Sean O'Malley: But but just learning all All about that and I'm lucky am Ron, who you just you who you met.
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Randall Kaplan: I'm grateful to you. Thank you Emraan you have a man appreciate you. Yeah,
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Sean O'Malley: so he's been teaching me a lot too. He's very smart. And, you know, I look up to him. He's a huge mentor to me, so I've been learning a lot from him, but I would definitely for me, I want it to be.
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Sean O'Malley: I've always set the bar high. Like when people say how much money you earn, I want to be a billionaire. Like saying that now. I'm not even close. It sounds silly. When I was 17 years old, saying I want to be the UFC champion best in the world. It sounds silly from coming from a kid from Helena Montana who's never even an MMA fight. So now for me to say I want to be a billionaire.
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Sean O'Malley: Someday, which I will be is is uh you know, I got to put in the work and learn how to, you know, make my money make me money.
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Randall Kaplan: Let's send about I mean, why a billion dollars?
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Randall Kaplan: What does it represent to you?
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Randall Kaplan: Is it a scorecard? Or is it just personal goal? That
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Sean O'Malley: is, I don't know, it's a good, it's just a crazy number. Like, it's just like, just out. I mean,
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Randall Kaplan: one of the most successful human beings in the world is at the measurement, financial, financially successful people in the world.
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Randall Kaplan: Sometimes
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Sean O'Malley: I don't really know, I want things like I just sometimes I'm like, well, billionaire, I got a lot of kids, you can do a lot of sweet stuff. But you know, a lot of kids now. Yeah, good. But I feel like I just I don't know, my next goal 100. But I want to be I want to, you know, get to 100 million, a little baby, say I can't show you that I made 100 mil yet, like I want to, I want to make 100 million, then we'll get we'll get there. But for me, let's just I gotta keep winning fights. Because the more fights I win, the more opportunities I have, the more you know, the more equity I get in the businesses, to where someone you know, I might have to pay money to get into equity, I might have to pay money to get equity to these businesses, I could just get equity by promoting these businesses through the brand sugar. So I think I just go out there and keep knocking people out for the next 567 years. Like it's very realistic for me.
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Randall Kaplan: So gonna make$100 million? Because at the end of that, if you pay taxes 50 million, or do you want to make 200 million and to get 100 in the account? Yeah,
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Sean O'Malley: taxes. I'm glad you know what one thing is, I'm glad I did stay on top of taxes since I started making money.
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Sean O'Malley: Shot up my mom, because a lot of fighters you know, you make a couple $100,000 And then you spend, you know, $180,000 and then at the end of the year you owe, you know, 80,000 you're like, I don't have 20,000 How do I owe 80,000? Like, I've never been in that position. I've always been able to pay my taxes. And it always sucks. But I'm always been able to do that.
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Sean O'Malley: Which I've been very grateful for my mom to kind of help me with all that. But uh, yes, me.
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Sean O'Malley: So yeah, 200 million is your answer. My
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Randall Kaplan: Tice was on my show around eight months ago.
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Randall Kaplan: phenomenal guy for those of you who have not listened to it or watch it. Please do. Fascinating man. Great conversation. He says gone bankrupt. More times, they can count he made $400 million in his career. Which time value of money today is $700 million.
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Randall Kaplan: And when I told him today, it's$700 million, but kind of surprised. So I think it's really, really great that you have a good head on your shoulders. You have great managers, you got your mom? What was it? Like when you made your first million dollars? And what was the big purchase that that the first big purchase that you made? Um,
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Sean O'Malley: probably like the first million in a year?
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Randall Kaplan: Well, your first million total. I mean, my goal was to be a millionaire by the time I'm 30 years old, and I wasn't thinking, you know, pre tax or post tax and as I got older, I saw like, a big difference there.
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Sean O'Malley: Yeah, um, I think for me, like I said, I have six houses. So I was always kind of like buying I like buying houses like putting a couple $100,000 and paying off a house, buying another house. I'm not a huge car guy. I did have to get a Lamborghini. I don't like two or three years ago. You had to I had to. Yeah, I had no choice.
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Sean O'Malley: Why
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Randall Kaplan: would my son yesterday out to the racetrack?
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Randall Kaplan: He drove the Ferrari EVO who would you sit in there? I mean, I got in that thing. I was so claustrophobic. I got the hell out of there. So I drove the Lambo which when I dry sto sto ingress smooths
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Sean O'Malley: out Yeah, yeah.
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Sean O'Malley: They're a pain in the ass though because one thing goes wrong and it's like 12,000 to fix it and it's like another thing it they're a pain in the ass but okay, so Baba Lambo yeah I'd say Lambo how a color watches I bought a red one but I have it wrapped pink right now okay it's like a fucking just paint Lambo I don't know why I always wanted one I'm rewrapping it soon because every time I have a fight coming up I do a merch drop like a fight kid drop with certain colors okay and so in New Jersey so I do Limited Edition jerseys and then I kind of match my whether it's my cars definitely the merch, but I'm wrapping my cars, the same kind of concept colors of that, but some rewrapping it soon. Yeah, take your pride some jewelry.
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Sean O'Malley: Got
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Randall Kaplan: a sick watch on right now.
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Sean O'Malley: Yeah, I will. I like diamonds. You know, I think I never really was like a watch guy or jewelry guy. But I think no one is if you don't have money, right? Like when I don't have any money. I'm like, I'm not on the watch. I couldn't fucking afford one. So that makes sense. But the more you know, you make money. And then you see big numbers in your bank account and you have a good amount of savings, you have a good amount of investments.
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Sean O'Malley: You're like, Oh, I could, I could spoil myself a little bit by a little something nice. But you know, yes, I'd say jewelry, maybe you know, some cars house, stuff like that.
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Randall Kaplan: So my show is designed to inspire motivate people to be the best that they can be. What are the ingredients of success, your top five
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Sean O'Malley: sleep, diet, some form of meditation obviously, consistency and whatever it is, I think that's a cool one that always gets brought up as consistency and it's so important just got to see you got to be consistent, and does not letting people not not not care what people think.
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Sean O'Malley: I'd say saying no, not caring what people think are kind of tied into one but you just can't care what people think you're gonna read the comments and let them affect you. Like, that's just that comes down to we're all wired that way. But it's a mental weakness. I'd say it's just like, you really care what what someone thinks. But that comes down to be like a good person. Like if it affects you.
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Sean O'Malley: If what their comment affects you, it's probably because it's true. So as long as you're being a good person, the comments shouldn't affect you. So I'd say those where does
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Randall Kaplan: work ethic, passion and optimism rank and elements of success
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Sean O'Malley: worth that work ethic is number one you got you have to put in the work if you're not going to put in the work you can't expect to blow up on YouTube or you know get signed UFC or win big Pfizer you got to put in the work. Um, passion. Yeah, I mean, so it's sometimes I'm not passionate about fighting I don't want to get up and train like I'm seven weeks into fight camp. I'm sore I'm exhausted. I'm done. I don't want to get I don't want to train. So sometimes you're not like passionate about Yeah, so you'd go have a train that you'd have to fucking do it. So you'd luck if you have the passion like my passion is to be the best in the world. But some mornings I don't want to wake up I don't want to be is that comes back to work work ethic. Those ladies got to get up do it. But being able to, initially that passion to want to be the best want to be something as huge then would you say optimism, optimism.
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Randall Kaplan: Good attitude.
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Randall Kaplan: Good
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Sean O'Malley: attitude. Yeah.
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Sean O'Malley: optimistic. I mean, if you're just I feel like I'm pretty optimistic. Suck to just be naturally pessimistic and just kind of always in that mindset, maybe. Yeah, I don't know. But it's I feel like it'd be a lot easier being optimistic going through life. Yeah, but work ethic and passion are two things that it's just like got a habit to be successful.
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Randall Kaplan: How much are you focusing on your social media right now you have huge followings, you really consider that ingredient of your financial success and you have a full time team devoted to working on your social
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Sean O'Malley: Yeah, social media is like I made I made twice as much money this year on from brand new social media that I made from fighting so I've made you know, literally probably over twice as much money this year from social media so it's massive when it comes to financial and it's like I'm building something bigger so you know I keep building this for the next 567 years. The sugar brand is gonna be you know, huge massive especially if I go out and knock people out so yeah, it's a I don't really I do a lot of my social media do pretty much all of my own social media I recently Blake my sister even Snapchat for me. But for the most part yeah, I do. Do most of my social media and Ron helps me really like dial in the deliverables what I have to do for each you know, each company each sponsor is brand via Youtube, Snapchat, Facebook, Instagram. If you're not on those, try it out and I think being funny humor is like the best way to do that humor and knowledge like information. But those though, I tried to kind of focus on those funny people want to, if you can get a good giggle out of someone, like you're gonna be able to get them back to your page. So I kind of tried to focus on humor.
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Randall Kaplan: So we talked about brand deals, what exactly are we talking about online? Um,
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Sean O'Malley: well, they have to make sense for your brand, right? You gotta
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Randall Kaplan: what does it mean, though? So someone comes to you, and they do what they say, I'm gonna pay you to promote my brand.
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Sean O'Malley: Yeah, pretty much. I mean, that's pretty, pretty much as simple as that.
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Sean O'Malley: There's a lot of obviously contract lawyers and like a lot more into it. But yes, basically it like, for me, I have to, I have to, like the brand. Will you sandable for example, sandable, Enron's company CEO of that and their MMA gear, Kickboxing gear, Jujitsu gear, combat sports gear. So I met Imran in 2017. I think right before the contender series right after somewhere around there. Got on a call. And he's like, yeah, basically that like what deliverables for you know, pay, and you just find out what makes sense and what's fair. And you go from there. But yeah, has to make sense with the with the branding. There's
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Randall Kaplan: when we look at finding athletes or celebrities as spokespeople for our companies and our venture capital portfolio, one of the things that we look at is newspaper risk, right? A lot of people will do something stupid.
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Randall Kaplan: Again, the fires, they'll hit somebody. And then once once they do that, and it happens with a lot of fighters, by the way, probably more than in different sports. You've obviously need to be extremely careful, right? You guys like when you're a fighter and you're the champ I mean, Mike Tyson was on a JetBlue flight. And some guy came up to him and you know, taunting him. And do you get that and then is it consciously you got to keep your brain clean and stay out of trouble?
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Sean O'Malley: The thing about UFC and Dana, what's so cool is that we don't have to be as careful. As for that for like the UFC. Like you heard Sean strictly at the press conferences or do drop an F bombs. Yeah, that dudes. He's probably gonna get any repercussion or any backlash from the UFC, maybe a little bit like, Hey, do we watch him out a little bit, but he's alright, you go. You're an NFL NBA, you say that you're gone? Yeah. Do you want no one of them. But Sean Strickland also doesn't have any sponsors. So he doesn't really have to worry about it.
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Sean O'Malley: Because he's not paying that make money. Like he's not getting paid for the sponsor, so he doesn't have to worry about that.
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Randall Kaplan: So we talk a lot about when we all get successful, we get more and more successful typically, and they have more and more responsibilities happens when you have kids. You have a business, it grows a business more people you're managing, talking about work life balance.
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Randall Kaplan: So what is your work life balance? Have you thought about it long term and your own personal happiness going forward?
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Sean O'Malley: Yeah, I think recently, they'll bring a Blake in as an assistant. And again, recently, like my mom takes care of most of the stuff that I, you know, don't want to do, or that I don't have time to do, she takes care of a ton of that. But even then, it's like, I still have stuff, emails, reminders.
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Sean O'Malley: You gotta be here gotta be there. Inside. There's a lot that goes on when, especially at camp like I don't, all that extra energy to think about that stuff could go into me recovery could go into my next training session. So yeah, work life balance is something I think about a lot and need to it's a huge role. And I can't take on too much when, especially when I'm in camp when I got to be dialed in. So something I've definitely thought about a lot.
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Randall Kaplan: When you're successful. And Rich, I think we have a responsibility to give back. Yeah, I think it's very important to give back to our community. Yeah. What are you doing to give back? And what are your goals there in terms of giving back and influencing the lives of people? Well,
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Sean O'Malley: I gave back plenty to taxes. Right now I'm I'm helping I'm helping making sure my family friends are taken care of not too much to where it's like enabling them, like I said, but really just giving back to my family and making sure we're all good. And everything that needs to be done is done there. Yeah, as far as you know, charities and stuff like that I still, my first job was one of my first jobs like full time jobs. I worked at this group home with these mentally disabled, they were like 18 to 65 years old, there's eight of them. And that was like one of my most rewarding jobs and it was fun. I really, really enjoyed that. And that's something I still want to get back into and figure out how to get on a schedule and give back to that community because I always enjoyed you know, doing that kind of work. So that's something I still need to do. I talked to UFC and they're helping you or they knew that they're going to help me make a ll or charity. This nonprofit 501 C three Yeah, that Yeah.
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Sean O'Malley: Which there's a lot more that goes into that then you'd even a time Yes, yeah. So I guess that's like a lot of paperwork and need to be sat down and done. Have we had discussions about that? You
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Randall Kaplan: have any grandiose goals on the philanthropy five Bigger, bigger goals? I mean, you want to be a billionaire financially. Do you have a similar goal in terms of giving back to the community maybe influencing the lives of a billion people around the world?
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Sean O'Malley: Yeah, I feel like I mean even watching like, you know, Mr. Beast, yeah, like watching his video like him doing the well stuff. Like I literally, I legit teared up. I was like, that's so cool. Doing something like that would be is awesome. Like, I would love to do stuff like that and give back in that way because that touches people like that made me tear up watching that video like damn, I was really cool. So definitely would love to give back like that. Yeah.
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Randall Kaplan: So before I conclude my podcast I always conclude with a game called fill in the blank to excellent say ready play the the biggest lesson I've learned in my life if biggest lesson is this, like rapid or Yeah, it's gonna be rapid fire here.
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Sean O'Malley: I'd say meditation.
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Randall Kaplan: My number one professional goal is
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Sean O'Malley: greatest of all time.
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Randall Kaplan: The person I'm most interested in fighting is Cheeto
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Sean O'Malley: or Javante.
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Sean O'Malley: Davis. That's number two. Who both number one are Ely at the poor? Yeah, those three.
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Randall Kaplan: Okay, those three my biggest regret in life is
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Sean O'Malley: um Well, I feel like I'm in a good spot right now. So I'd say nothing yet.
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Randall Kaplan: My number one personal goal is personal goal is
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Sean O'Malley: all it's always less phone time. So always, it's just the right now.
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Randall Kaplan: You spent a lot of time on your phone, let's say.
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Sean O'Malley: I mean, what's what's average nowadays? I feel like everyone's full time so crazy, but you have to spend too much texting social media, you know, bouncing around I have shot Snapchat upload and then you're on Instagram and you're watching a YouTube video and then you're on Twitter, then you're you know, just bouncing around apps.
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Randall Kaplan: The one thing I've jumped about doing it a long time, but haven't is
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Sean O'Malley: like I love you say
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Randall Kaplan: the one thing I've dreamed about doing for a long time but haven't is. You're checking off right now. You gotta say it. I can see you. I can see you going through the mental checklist. No, I'm like I said Come on. Let it let it loose. No, I can't. I can't wait, why can't you because it's too outrageous. Oh, yeah. You're You're like the kid says, Hey, I got something to tell you. But I can't really tell you. You gotta let it loose. Yeah, no.
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Sean O'Malley: It's not bad.
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Sean O'Malley: It's just
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Randall Kaplan: funny. So hey, people are funny. All right, I'll
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Sean O'Malley: say it. Um, one of my buddies texted me said Rob hooker party tonight. I think he's kidding now. So that was funny. Which I'm not a fan of I would rather be able to raise a girl up and talk to her and Herbie into me so
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Randall Kaplan: he can be one person in the world who would it be?
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Sean O'Malley: meet one person?
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Sean O'Malley: Um, I don't really feel like I don't really feel like I might on meet that person. I do think it'd be cool to meet and have a conversation with Mike Tyson.
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Sean O'Malley: Like off camera. Not necessarily doing a podcast was like talking to Mike Tyson is very interesting person. I feel like you know, I've had people in contact with him and I'm supposed to go on his podcast and do some stuff but the times haven't worked out what might be interesting character.
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Randall Kaplan: If you're a President of the United States, what are the first three things that you would do?
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Sean O'Malley: I don't know shit about any of that. I don't know.
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Sean O'Malley: I so far loop on what what needs to be done? I don't even know.
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Sean O'Malley: Pick one where I'd go pick one.
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Randall Kaplan: You're sitting in the Oval Office. You've seen the photos. You're sitting there at this desk. Yeah, what do you do?
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Sean O'Malley: I'm Asian massages are legal. That's my number one.
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Randall Kaplan: I had
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Sean O'Malley: I don't know I feel like I'm so far out of the loop when it comes to politics and it's just it's way better that way. I feel like for me right now, I don't know enough about it to really have an opinion about it to where I feel like I what I say should influence anyone. So you
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Randall Kaplan: have a lot of power and you have a pulpit to influence so many people
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Sean O'Malley: but I need to make I need to be educated on what I'm influencing people. I'm not I don't know anything about you. And I know Biden looks like he's about to fall over. Trump makes me laugh those about the only two things I know about politics. I
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Randall Kaplan: had Benjamin Netanyahu for dinner at my house around 15 years ago, I was very nervous, obviously, Prime Minister of Israel. And so he's, I mean, I was very nervous about the whole thing. And we had this with a bunch of tech people from California. So we had free tables at 10. And I'm the host, and he's sitting next to me with his wife, Sarah. And like the one what's the first thing I'm going to say to him? And I thought about it. I said, you get there. You when you're sitting down at your desk for the very first time, I said, How the hell do you know what to do?
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Randall Kaplan: Yeah, for real? And what do you say? You spend several months in advance people telling you I said, because we're all the news. I said, we're all the secrets. We're all the Mossad guys, you know, the agent. So they said it takes I think you have three or four months once you win before you come, Prime Minister. So yeah, when you think about it, oh, gosh, that's, that's insane. I
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Sean O'Malley: don't get how someone just does that or wants to do that seems very stressful.
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Sean O'Malley: If
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Randall Kaplan: you go back in time, what's the one thing you would tell your 21 year old self
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Sean O'Malley: 21 year old, so I feel like I was living when I was 21. I feel like that's when I really started kind of wanting to learn how to eat healthy.
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Sean O'Malley: Getting into coupons, getting into meditation, getting into the learning how to live healthier. So I feel like that was a good time for me to, you know, just say, just continue on that path and do what you're doing. Because, you know, we're in a good spot right now. That 29
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Randall Kaplan: The one question you wish I had asked you, but didn't is.
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Sean O'Malley: Um, I didn't see your thinking on a lot of these.
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Sean O'Malley: I didn't really think about that at all. There wasn't really a question or like, Well, I hope he asks me about that. I thought I thought what you asked me was great. And I thought we had a great conversation. So I think it was what was said was perfect. I love
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Randall Kaplan: it. You have any questions on my son Charlie's here. Huge fan. Do you have any questions? You want to add Shaw?
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Randall Kaplan: I was good. Well, I really appreciate you being here. Sean.
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Randall Kaplan: You're I'm a huge fan. I saw the huge fan. You've had an amazing career. I'm super excited to watch your fight. Super excited.
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Randall Kaplan: Get to know you better, and I'm here to help you with whatever I can. And
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Sean O'Malley: you're gonna be a Zook tonight.
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Randall Kaplan: I'm gonna be hell yeah, we're gonna hang.
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Randall Kaplan: We'll hang out. You're gonna have a few drinks tonight. Oh, yeah, I'm
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Sean O'Malley: gonna have a couple happy dads and getting them you know,
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Randall Kaplan: gotta pop by.
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Randall Kaplan: We're gonna we're gonna have a few drinks do I think all right, yeah. Okay. It's gonna be it's gonna be fun show but are we off? Probably about 1230 We'll be rolling in there. Alright, is it awesome? Appreciate you.
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Randall Kaplan: Thank you so much.