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Searching for Meaning - Socialism, Nationalism, Race And The Alternative | Yaron Brook Show · Yaron Brook Show

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  Speaker 1: A lot of them, fundamentals of edom, last little rivers
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  Speaker 1: and any individual loss. This is the show. Oh right,
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  Speaker 1: everybody welcome to run Brooks Show on this Sunday, November sixteenth.
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  Speaker 1: I hope everybody's having a really great weekend. I am
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  Speaker 1: So now show Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and uh yes,
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  Speaker 1: so uh we'll jump right into it, will jump right
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  Speaker 1: into the topic city. So, I mean, you know, giving
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  Speaker 1: a lot of thought to the kind of the people
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  Speaker 1: that I meet as I'm traveling around the country the world,
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  Speaker 1: and and and and this real question I think everybody
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  Speaker 1: should be asking themselves is what's up? You know, what
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  Speaker 1: is causing the significant rise in uh, the commitment and
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  Speaker 1: passion that young people have around some of the most
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  Speaker 1: you know, radical and radical ideas really from from human history.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I encounter a variety of different types of
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  Speaker 1: socialists and and fall leftists. When I travel young people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're not stupid. It's not that they don't
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  Speaker 1: it's not that they don't understand history. It's it's or
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  Speaker 1: no history. Maybe they don't understand it, but they know it,
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  Speaker 1: you know then. And it's not that they can't see.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the difference between Israel and the Palestinians
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  Speaker 1: or a million other things. And yet they are they
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  Speaker 1: are committed to their socialism. They're committed. They're trying it again,
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  Speaker 1: and they're quite passionate about it. And it's at least
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  Speaker 1: for a certain period in their life. For many of
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  Speaker 1: these people, it is it becomes kind of a central
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  Speaker 1: theme in their life. And this is true also of
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  Speaker 1: kind of the fascists out there, the white nationalists, the
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  Speaker 1: the gropers, the you know, they they seem to this
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  Speaker 1: dominates their life. Everything is filtered through this. Every interpretation
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  Speaker 1: of every statement you make, everything is filtered through either
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  Speaker 1: the kind of Marxist socialist perspective or they woke perspective,
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  Speaker 1: or their nationalist perspective or their white identitarian perspective. And
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  Speaker 1: it's it kind of it dominates. And again these are
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  Speaker 1: These are not dumb people. These are these are as
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  Speaker 1: I told you I think I did this debate on
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  Speaker 1: on Christianity in San Francisco, and you know, these were
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  Speaker 1: these were founders and companies, These were computer science students
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  Speaker 1: at Stanford or Berkeley, almost all men, almost all guys.
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  Speaker 1: I think socialism appeals more to women. But but you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're definitely on on across the board. You see men
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  Speaker 1: in particular gravitate towards these kind of ideas. Uh and uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know the shock and surprise that some of them
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  Speaker 1: expect at my not just rejection but my fury at
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  Speaker 1: their white nationalist views but was surprising. It's it's as if,
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  Speaker 1: I you know, challenge some basic fundamental belief that they
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  Speaker 1: that they had about the world. So what is going on?
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  Speaker 1: What is the appeal of all this? What? Why is it?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you think it's it's it's it's all
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  Speaker 1: young people, primarily young people. It's not all young people
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  Speaker 1: to primarily young people. It is you know, extraordinary passion, commitment, uh,
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  Speaker 1: to the extent that they thought it thinking, to the
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  Speaker 1: extent that they can think dedicate to this and and
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  Speaker 1: and it really shapes everything about them. It shapes how
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  Speaker 1: they view history. They don't know history. One of the
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  Speaker 1: things that's absolutely the case is the shoote ignorance that
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  Speaker 1: kids Familian Americans. But I think I think this is
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  Speaker 1: I think this is global. They just don't know history.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I keep learning new things about
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  Speaker 1: history that I just didn't know, big things, not little things,
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  Speaker 1: big things about history that I just didn't know. And
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  Speaker 1: I am trying to make an effort to close the gaps.
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  Speaker 1: So I can imagine, you know, they gaps are massive.
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  Speaker 1: They just have no clue and they usually have very
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  Speaker 1: few sources for whatever information they have. They don't know,
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  Speaker 1: they don't know where the world around them comes from.
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  Speaker 1: They don't know any of that. And yet the committed,
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  Speaker 1: dedicated passionate around these ideologies. And the question is why,
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  Speaker 1: And look, the answer is going to be. The answer
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  Speaker 1: why is complex and it's got psychological dimensions and many others.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna try to approach us from the perspective
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  Speaker 1: of one dimension, and that is, I think, from the
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  Speaker 1: perspective of morality ultimately and and the kind of and
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  Speaker 1: and the search for meaning, the search for purpose in life,
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  Speaker 1: the the you know, what is this life for? What
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  Speaker 1: why should I be alive? What should I do with
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  Speaker 1: my life? And it's interesting that the search for meaning
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  Speaker 1: in life that has been I think at the forefront
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  Speaker 1: of a lot of debate out there. Of course Joan
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  Speaker 1: Peterson made made much of his success around it has
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  Speaker 1: not really focused, really centered, really gravitated towards politics. And
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  Speaker 1: there's a and and this is really I think part
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  Speaker 1: of the question. It really does seem to me, It
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  Speaker 1: really does seem to me that these socialists and fascists
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  Speaker 1: and identitarians of different kinds, and white nationalists and nationalists
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  Speaker 1: and neoliberals and all this stuff among young peop people,
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  Speaker 1: at least, all these ideologies are replacing meaning for them.
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  Speaker 1: It's replacing purpose for them. It's what you know, integrates,
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  Speaker 1: it starts to integrate their life, and it's why they're
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  Speaker 1: so passionate, why they're so driven. Now, I expect that
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  Speaker 1: as I get older, it will dissipate because other things
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  Speaker 1: will come to the forefront and suddenly the political will
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  Speaker 1: fade for you know, for variety, for a variety of reasons,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just just in terms of focus. They'll have families,
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  Speaker 1: they'll they'll have careers, they're there and they will lose interest.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's only so much interest you can have
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  Speaker 1: in politics. But it is really uh depressing and disappointing
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  Speaker 1: that what we've come to is meaning as politics. So
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  Speaker 1: they self identify in terms of politics. Now they might
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  Speaker 1: self identify, particularly the kids on the right, might self
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  Speaker 1: identify primarily in terms of religion. But religion is not
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  Speaker 1: associated with, you know, how they behave on a day
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  Speaker 1: to day basis. It's not associated with I don't know
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the life that they had. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think I asked the group on during this debate,
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  Speaker 1: during this debate in UH in San Francisco, I think
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  Speaker 1: I think I asked them something like I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember how I faced it exactly. Unfortunately there's
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  Speaker 1: no video recording of it. But I think I face
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  Speaker 1: it something like, you don't live, you probably don't your
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  Speaker 1: sex life is probably not particularly Christian. And a few
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  Speaker 1: of them said, you know, a few of them said yes,
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  Speaker 1: my is you know. I think I think one of
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  Speaker 1: the two of the guys and I said, okay. So
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  Speaker 1: I said something like, okay, so we have a few
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  Speaker 1: virgins among us, and everybody laughed. But they laughed the
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  Speaker 1: kind of nervous laugh knowing that, yeah, they just didn't
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  Speaker 1: represent most of them. So they they they have their religion,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not like they're out preaching directly religious values.
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  Speaker 1: They're not of some religious crusade or whatever crusade they're on.
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  Speaker 1: It is manifest in politics. Everything about what they're doing
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  Speaker 1: at the end is politics. You know, how many of
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  Speaker 1: them are taking their Catholicism so seriously that they go
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  Speaker 1: into seminary school very few, How many of them are
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  Speaker 1: taking their religions so seriously that they're you know, in
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  Speaker 1: their personal life, in every aspect of their life they
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  Speaker 1: are they are dedicating themselves completely to Christ and to studying.
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  Speaker 1: These were primarily Catholics. Protestants have a somewhat different relationship
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  Speaker 1: to religion. I mean, it's still I don't get that sense.
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  Speaker 1: I get the sense of what they get passionate about,
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  Speaker 1: what they're interested in, what they really really care about,
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  Speaker 1: and where their mind immediately goes is the politics. It's
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  Speaker 1: very hard to argue with them even about ethics and
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  Speaker 1: what it means and what it stands for, and what
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  Speaker 1: Christianity actually means and what kind of ethics they live by.
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  Speaker 1: How many of them, particularly that group in San Francisco,
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  Speaker 1: pursue prophet, pursue prophet, and you know, maybe they're a
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  Speaker 1: little childable, but not too much. So it's it's the politics.
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  Speaker 1: It's the political identification that is the constitute much of
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  Speaker 1: their identity, much of how they view themselves and how
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  Speaker 1: they view the world. Why why politics? Why these political
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  Speaker 1: you know realms And at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: what is the alternative? So think about you know, growing
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  Speaker 1: up as we all did, right, we all did a
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  Speaker 1: in a altruistic world. We are taught from very early
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  Speaker 1: on the purpose, the meaning of life that a maa
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  Speaker 1: purpose is. The other is the satisfaction of other others needs,
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  Speaker 1: desires or you know better yet, maybe we learned from
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  Speaker 1: a very young age that at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: the one need that we shouldn't be really focused on,
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that we really shouldn't spend too much
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  Speaker 1: time on, the one thing that we really shouldn't pursue,
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  Speaker 1: is our own self interest and and we should be
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  Speaker 1: looking out for others placing their interests, not too much,
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  Speaker 1: and not always, and not in every realm with life,
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  Speaker 1: but but from more perspective, from a fundamental, more perspective.
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  Speaker 1: We should be thinking in terms of other people. Uh
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  Speaker 1: and uh, and other people are somehow you own your
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  Speaker 1: moral responsibility and and if you're if you're a Christian,
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  Speaker 1: you know getting them on the on the correct path
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  Speaker 1: is your responsibility, and feeding them if they're poor, is
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  Speaker 1: your responsibility. And their happiness is somehow your responsibility, and
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  Speaker 1: the state of the world is somehow your responsibility. You
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  Speaker 1: must live for them, and and and again. Nobody takes
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  Speaker 1: us too seriously, although they do in the end, but
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  Speaker 1: they're not willing to explicitly state this outright. But altruism
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  Speaker 1: is everywhere in our culture, and it is particularly in
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  Speaker 1: the denunciation of anything to do with egoism and anything
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  Speaker 1: to do with self interest. The interests of others are primary,
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  Speaker 1: that paramount they wear our entire focus should be. Now
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  Speaker 1: assumeing that's the case, then, when it comes to finding
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  Speaker 1: a purpose in life or meaning in life, meaning means
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  Speaker 1: in a sense of justification for your life, a reason
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  Speaker 1: for living, a centrally think about it in terms of purpose,
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  Speaker 1: a centrally integrating theme that drives your life, the thing
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  Speaker 1: that integrates all of your activities around which you want
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  Speaker 1: to achieve. Stuff you can't make that purpose or meaning
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  Speaker 1: egoistic or self interested, even though many of these young
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  Speaker 1: people would like to. They you know, particularly again the
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco crowd. You know, they have careers, they're doing
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  Speaker 1: interesting stuff, they're studying interesting material, they're pursuing interesting things.
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  Speaker 1: But that would be you know, that can't be the
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  Speaker 1: meaning because that is just what you like, you are
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  Speaker 1: passionate about. It's just what you find interesting, and meaning
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  Speaker 1: can't be can't be just you. So in their search
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  Speaker 1: for I think meaning, they have to look for the other.
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  Speaker 1: They have to look at the other. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: very few of them are inclined to actually, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: find individual others to look at. And immediately when they do,
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  Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable. You know, you're who you're going to sacrifice too,
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  Speaker 1: which other? Which person out there? Very few people of
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  Speaker 1: them actually want to go and work with the poor
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  Speaker 1: and sacrifice to the poor. You know, in a personal way.
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  Speaker 1: They're busy, they're smart, they've got stuff to do. But
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  Speaker 1: they know the meaning has to come from caring, sacrificing
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  Speaker 1: and doing for the other. And this is where politics
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  Speaker 1: in escence serves that purpose. By advocating for political cause,
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  Speaker 1: you are advocating for what is politics about. Politics is
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  Speaker 1: about society, the group, the collective. It's about the other,
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  Speaker 1: and it's unscale. You can scale it. It's not just
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  Speaker 1: one or two or the meek, or it's all. It's
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  Speaker 1: all others. And it's a way to express that altruism.
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  Speaker 1: It's a way to express the need to take care
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  Speaker 1: of others, the need to in a sense, run other
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  Speaker 1: people's lives, to dictate to others how they should be
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  Speaker 1: and what they should be, because it's your moral responsibility
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  Speaker 1: to do so. Unscale. So you know, they they those
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  Speaker 1: who find religion find religion. Those who don't find religion
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  Speaker 1: are looking for meaning out there. And remember I mean
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  Speaker 1: this crisis, a meaning crisis, a purpose I think is
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  Speaker 1: well identified in kind of the literature, if you will.
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  Speaker 1: It's about you know, young people really not knowing what
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  Speaker 1: to do with their lives and not knowing what it's
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  Speaker 1: all for and what the purpose of it all, many
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  Speaker 1: of them as a consequence, which reached into video games
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  Speaker 1: and into isolation and into you know, misery because they
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  Speaker 1: don't know, they don't know what their life is for,
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  Speaker 1: they don't understand it. They have no purpose, they have
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  Speaker 1: no reason they have no striving and John Peterson of
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  Speaker 1: course identified this, and much of his fame and much
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  Speaker 1: of his success came from the fact came from the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he addressed this directly, that he went to
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  Speaker 1: young people and said, I know you have lost purpose,
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  Speaker 1: you can't find meaning. Well, let me help you. Let
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  Speaker 1: me help you. And ton't Peterson understands implicitly, because I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he's considered any alternative. That mini has to
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  Speaker 1: be found in. The other has to be found in altruism.
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  Speaker 1: It has to be found out there. It can't be
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  Speaker 1: found inside you. That would be egoistic and self interested,
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  Speaker 1: and that can't be right. So it's the other, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, and he says, you have to it's two steps. First,
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  Speaker 1: you have to do some self interested kind of first
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  Speaker 1: level of things. You have to, in a sense, take
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  Speaker 1: some level of responsibility for your own life. You can't
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  Speaker 1: act in the world without at least being able to
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  Speaker 1: act effectively in the world without at least being able
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  Speaker 1: to make your bed and stand up straight. And it
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  Speaker 1: takes some responsibility for your own life. But then the
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  Speaker 1: meaning of life, he tells us, comes from taking responsibility
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  Speaker 1: for the lives of other people taking responsibility for others.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a powerful message that I think people
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  Speaker 1: are responding to, whether directly to Jordan Peterson or just
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  Speaker 1: to the zeitgeist in the culture, to the atmosphere and
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  Speaker 1: the culture. We need to take responsibility, We need to
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  Speaker 1: find meaning, and that meaning can only be found in
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  Speaker 1: other people. That meaning can only be found and take
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  Speaker 1: responsibility for other people. And you know, if you care
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  Speaker 1: about other people and you see, I don't know, cost
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  Speaker 1: of living going up, and the poor and there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of poverty and a lot of homelessness and places,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you might gravitate towards towards socialism. And I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people do as a as a
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  Speaker 1: fix somehow to all these societal problems that are basically,
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  Speaker 1: in your view, grounded and rooted in some kind of
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  Speaker 1: economic failure material failure in the world. So if you're
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  Speaker 1: not religious, and you view the world from a kind
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  Speaker 1: of an economic perspective, and you view poverty and all
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  Speaker 1: of that, then ye, socialism is a way to express
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  Speaker 1: yourself and to find purpose and meaning and pursue it
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  Speaker 1: and gopherts and advocate for it to help those others
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  Speaker 1: over there, And it becomes it becomes a political and
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  Speaker 1: you get involved and you go hand out flyers for
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  Speaker 1: Mamdani and you sign people up to vote, and you
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  Speaker 1: you know, these people are really passionate. It's not vake.
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  Speaker 1: They don't make it up. They are trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: express the meaning in their life by making the world
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  Speaker 1: a better place. And making the world a better place
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  Speaker 1: from their perspective is you know, we need to help
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  Speaker 1: those who obviously not helping themselves. It has to be
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  Speaker 1: the other. And I think a lot of people on
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  Speaker 1: their way they are also you know, upset by the
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  Speaker 1: state of the world. Their plight might be if you
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  Speaker 1: were more spiritual. They have found maybe meaning in some
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  Speaker 1: meaning in religion. But okay, but what do they do
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  Speaker 1: with that? What do they out do they express this?
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  Speaker 1: How do they express this meaning that they found the
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  Speaker 1: existence of God the scriptures? How do they express this
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  Speaker 1: in the world in which we live? Well, what they
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  Speaker 1: find is is, uh, there's people who are what you
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  Speaker 1: call it, you know, spiritually poor, that have given up
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  Speaker 1: on life, that again don't have purpose of meaning. But
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  Speaker 1: but part of that is the failure or the disappearance
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  Speaker 1: of community. And and they they look at people and
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  Speaker 1: and and you know, how how do we how do
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  Speaker 1: we bring them out of this? And and their focus,
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  Speaker 1: for whatever reason right on the other is to like
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  Speaker 1: send other that looks like me. And they view people
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  Speaker 1: who look different than them as a threat. And they're
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  Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice and and get passionate and engage in
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  Speaker 1: and they make the meaning of their life they help
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  Speaker 1: people who look like them. This is the kind of
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  Speaker 1: a primitive form of tribalism, or not a primitive form,
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  Speaker 1: a form just tribalism. Not a primitive form, just tribalism,
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  Speaker 1: which is a primitive of galectivism. Right, it's it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting because it's it's it's it's clearly less sophisticated
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  Speaker 1: than socialism. Socialism is are much more sophisticated ideology than
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  Speaker 1: white nationalism. White nationalism is an appealing ideology for people
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  Speaker 1: who don't want to don't want to put too much
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  Speaker 1: thought into it. It's gutta roll, it's it's it's it's
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  Speaker 1: just you know it. If I thought people had instincts,
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  Speaker 1: it would be an appeal to their instincts. But it's
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  Speaker 1: an appeal to kind of the the most primitive barbaric
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  Speaker 1: within us. But it's sexy right now, and you know
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  Speaker 1: you have to find purpose and the other well, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the other will look like me. That that's
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  Speaker 1: much easier, that's much nicer. And then you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't have any self esteem because I have you know,
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  Speaker 1: where would have gotten self esteem from. Then I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: search for kind of a pseudo self esteem in one way,
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  Speaker 1: search for suit of self esteem. And I saw this
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  Speaker 1: again with this group in San Francisco, my ancestors, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: those Spanish conquistadors. A number of people stood up and
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  Speaker 1: we're proud of the conquist the door ancestors. Now, look,
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  Speaker 1: there's some good things about conquistadors, you know, the adventure,
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  Speaker 1: the discovery, but there's also a lot of brutality. Uh
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And and of course you know the fact that they
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: came to the New World in order to turn all
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: these Pagans into good Christians, uh, in a in a
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: pretty in a pretty you know, pretty barbaric way, using force.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: So they embrace, they embrace the success of their forefathers
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in blood, in genes, whatever they want to call. Spain
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: used to be a mighty empires. I'm proud of being
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: of Spanish blood. Said a guy from Mexico. They have
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: no probably they have no achievements yet of them their own,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: so they look for the achievements in their own past. Again,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: pretty primitive base form of meaning. So I'm dedicated to
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They're dedicated to European They're dedicated to, you know, Western civilization,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: but as looking like them, as white, not as a civilization,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: not as the ideas that make civilization possible, but as
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the blood that makes civilization possible. And they find meaning
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: in that, they find passion in that. They dedicate themselves
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to that, and they pursue that. They pursued in nationalism,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the greatness of America. It's not like they really understand
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: why America is great, what made America great, who the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: founder is really were what they actually advocated for Now,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: there were white British guys who were Christian. That's enough
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: for them. They can associate with that. They they can
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: they can relate to that. This Mexican claim not to
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: be very mixed, but anyway, I know. So what you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: see is meaning is politics filling the gap for self
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: esteem and the gap for meaning. Political engagement, political beliefs,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: political ideology becomes a substitute for real purpose for real meaning,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: even as these people might pursue things like careers where
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you could find real purpose and real meaning if you looked,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: if you looked, and all of this is a consequence
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: of altruism. So altruism, I mean, there are a number
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: of different ways in which altruism can express itself in
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the search people have for a purpose and meaning, But
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: certainly you would expect its manifestation to be in collectivism,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: in the group in the other So what unites all
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: of these socialist nationalists, racists and I'm sure there's a
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: bunch of other that I could have listed here gropers,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever anti semites is that all of these ideologies,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the collectivistic ideologies that allow you to gain some identity
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and to give you some kind of purpose in life,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: they all try to explain the world in their own
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: way that requires very little effort on your behalf. I mean,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: how many even people who are out there who consider
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: them socialists, I'm not talking about the intellectuals, talking about
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the masters, how many of them actually know what socialism is?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: How many of them have actually read call Marks? How
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: many of them know the history of socialism? Going back
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to Commune's you know, way back in you know, early Christianity,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and maybe even before that. They find the purpose and
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: meaning in life, at least for period in their youth,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: in collective identity, in the identity of a group, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: it's as an escape because it eliminates the need to
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: establish real self esteem. It eliminates so it's it's and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and what they have is a pseudo sense of self esteem.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: They can never be fully happy, they can never be
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: fully fulfilled. And indeed, as they go older, they'll become
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: cynical about their political past, but they won't really replace
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: it with anything. They'll go through midlife crisis, they'll feel
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: guilty if they're successful. When they go older, they'll continuously
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: look for groups that they can hang out with. But
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: they'll never be fulfilled. They'll never be flourished completely as
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: human beings. They'll never be happy, they'll never achieve happiness
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: because they're looking for meaning for purpose in the wrong place,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: in the wrong place. But it is I don't I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: think it's true that in the past, while collectivism was
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: still alive and well and altruism certainly was, that people
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: so adopted politics and the collect a collectivistic identity quite
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: as readily as we're experiencing right now. I think this
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: is further decline in the individualism this inherent in our culture.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: This is for the decline in individuals actually seeking out values.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: It is a further decline in individuals taking their own
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: life seriously. And it's I think part of kind of
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the Jordan Peterson answer, or I mean the cultural answer,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the religious answer to what the purpose of life is.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: And notice that those who ultimately come to the conclusion
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: that life has no meaning, as I think many people,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: many people do that life has no meaning. They're the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: ones who become the nihilists. Life has no meaning, values
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: have no meaning. Blow it all up, watch it burn.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: And you see those on both the right and the left,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: you see the nihilists wanting to see it burn. So
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: it really all senders around meaning and purpose and identity
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and how people think of themselves. And the worst abandon all.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: They abandon themselves and they ban all meaning in the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: name of yeah, it all sucks. Either burn it down
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: or bury myself in my parents' basement and play video
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: games for the rest of my life. I won't seek
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: a Korea, I won't seek a love life, I won't
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: seek a family. I won't seek happiness, I won't seek
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: values period And in a sense, the better ones find
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: it in politics and find it on Twitter, and find
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: it on Facebook and find it all these, you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: different groups where they can debate, discuss and passionately engage
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: in a political one upmanship, but all focused, all of
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: it really focused on you know, collectivistic on identitarian type
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: politics or class type politics, but collectivistic, you know, socialism,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: collectivistic nonetheless. And then there's some who you know, find
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: purpose and meaning in their life. They typically are not
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: thinking about it too much, sadly, so it's not clear
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that our goal directed it are how focused they are,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: how but they find it nonetheless, and they live their
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: lives and they ignore the collectivistic nonsense, and they ignore
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the nihilists and they just live and you know, and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it might be that a big chunk of the population
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: is like that. They never think of it in terms
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: of purpose and meaning, and a lot of it results
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: in their floundering and their life being so so, but
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: they don't get captured. They don't get captured by the way.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I see. The chat has all kinds of questions for me,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and you know, define this or what about that. There
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: is a super chat feature. You can do a super
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: chat for like a buck for ninety nine cents, and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: you can ask any of those questions, or you can
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: make any of those comments and I will read them aloud,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: and I would, I will, I will, you know, gladly
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: respond to all of them. So if you're curious about
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: any of them, then ask a question, use the super
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: chat like everybody else. So otherwise you're just speaking to
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: the wind, right, I mean, the super chat is everybody.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: If you put a super chat in, everybody who listens
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: to the show, including those who listened to it podcasts
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: and watch it later and all of that, which is
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the vast overwhelming majority of people listen to the show, Well,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: actually get your question in my response, whereas in the chat,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: like only a few people who are actually on this
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: chat get to read it and know what the hell
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you're talking about. So if it's in the super chat,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: you have much bigger impact. You want to embarrass me,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: you know, bring it on, Bring it on. If somebody
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: wants to ask a question that somebody already asked, Uh,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: do it. Here we go. We've got we've got, We've
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: got some five dollars questions. I don't know qt g
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: t q is Guatemala money, Guatemala, quetzal, quetzal. So what's
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: the alternative? What's alternative? Where? Where does man find meaning?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Where do we find meaning? How can we find meaning?
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Where should we find meaning? I mean, the first thing
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: one has to challenge and reject really is the entire philosophy,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the entire morality of altruism. Altruism, you know, it needs
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: to be rejected. And if you embrace a morality of egoism,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: a morality of rational lung term self interest, then where
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: is meaning to be found? It's pretty straightforward. Meaning is
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to be found in living your life. I mean, what
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: objectivism teaches you? What a rational self interest in morality?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: He teaches you is not to such a meeting out there,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: not just such a meaning in others, not to such
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: a meaning in some you know, some goal, some value
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: greater than yourself, which every politician, every single politician, every
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: politician you know, advocates for. You know, all the speeches right,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: seek out a purpose greater than yourself. Now, how about
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: a purpose that is up to myself, that is myself purpose?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Meaning ultimately, for an egoist is their own life. It's
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: living that life, living that life to the fullest, living
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: that life, as I Grant would say, as a human being,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: living that life based on your nature, living a rational
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: life in pursuit of happiness, in pursuit of flourishing, in
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: pursuit of living the best damned life capital l that
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: you can live. Somebody asked what happiness is. I mean happiness.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I ran to find it as a state. It's a
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: state state of consciousness. Right. It's not momentary joy, or
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: momentary this, or or just a fleeing feeling. It is
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: a state of consciousness that you have that you sustain
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: over time of non contradictory joy. You're not torn by contradictions.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: You're not torn by the struggles in life. You're not
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: torn by who the sacrifice to you today. I mean,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: you might struggle with decisions, you might struggle with choices,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you know that
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: your purpose, what your purpose is. You know what you're heading,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you know why you're doing what you're doing, and that
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: gives you a certain satisfaction, a certain just state of yeah,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: this is good, this is life. It's not contentment. It's
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: something much more powerful. Than just being content because it
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: involves striving and ambition and drive. It's about, you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: living a good life, enjoying the douctive activity that you do,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: which is so central to all of our lives. It's
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: about enjoying the things that one does, finding things that
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: one loves, and pursuing those loves. It's, you know, in
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: many respects, it's about love. It's about living an integrated life.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: So what is meaning and objectivism? The meaning of life
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: is to live. Your purpose in life should be to
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: live live the best I am life you can to
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: live with the goal of being happy. And happiness comes
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: from captains, comes from achieving your values, comes from challenge
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: yourself and achieving succeeding. Sonia says that only money can
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: help you do that. That's just not true, absolutely not true.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, most of us will live a significant portion
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: of our lives without money, will be poor. Took me
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: a long time before I had any money, any meaningful money.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Was I not happy during that time? Of course, I
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: was happy pursuing the goals. I was studying, learning, I
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: was building a family, I was doing stuff. And you
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: know what am I am? I happier once I got
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: money I mean in some senses, you know, because that's
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: that was on the road. But that's something to be achieved.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: It's not oh when I when I get money, I'll
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: be happy. That that is that is upside out. You'll
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: be if you're happy while making money, the money will
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: make you even more happy. Since abound enjoying life, you
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: get meaning from the living. You get meaning from the
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: enjoying you get living. You you you you get meaning
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: really from life itself, from the process of it, from
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the embrace of it, from the caring about it, from
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: the joy that comes from achieving values. And you know,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you gotta find things that enhance joy, friendship, love. But
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: you know, from many people most importantly is their career,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: their productive work, the productive work that they do. So
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: don't look for meaning out there. There is no meaning
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: out there. There is nothing greater than your life. There's
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: nothing more important than your life. Even when we say
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: we're willing to risk our lives to something. Freedom, liberty
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: certainly abstractions. Who's freedom? Who's liberty? Your own? And by extension,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the people you love. You fight, you know, in a sense,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: you might go to war and fight for an abstraction,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: but that a section is because of its importance to
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you objectively, not subjectively, but objectively importance to you. So yes,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: it's in yourself. A note that if you're focused on
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: your own happiness, your own life, and said life is
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the purpose of life, or life is the if you
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: want to replace it with meaning, life is the meaning
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: of life, Living is the meaning of life, then why
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: kind of politics would you embrace? So first, it's not
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: going to be the center of your life, because politics
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: is finally about society and organizing it. In the first
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and primary most important thing you should be thinking about,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: particularly when you're young, you should be thinking about is
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you is? What should I study at school? What hobby
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: should I pick up? What should my career be, How
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: do I pursue that career? What steps unnecessary? What I
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: need to know to be successful? How do I find
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: somebody to love? How do I create a group of
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: really valuable friends. So the first priority, particularly when you're
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: young and throughout your life, really at the end of
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the day, throughout your life is you, your life, your values,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: pursuing them, achieving them. And the only reason to get
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: involved in politics is because in a world, particularly in
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the world in which we live, politics keeps getting in
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the way a pursuing your values keeps getting in the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: way of living your life to the fullest. And that
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: requires your involvement, not your involvement of politics for the
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: sake of politics, or politics are the sake of the group,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: or politics for the sake of your heritage, your politics
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: for the sake of the poor, politics for the sake
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: of getting rid of the barriers that make it harder
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: for you to live your life the way you want
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: to live it. And those barriers are taxes and regulations
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: and controls and limitations on abortion and on business formation
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: and a million other things that the government keeps stepping
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: on us in the name of collectivism, in the name
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: of the common good, in the name of the nation,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: in the name of something. You focus on your life,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you make your life the best that it can be,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and then you start identifying, oh, there's certain political issues
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that are important to me because they represent barriers to
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: me achieving even more with my life than I already have.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: And that's why I want to get involved in politics,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: because I want to get rid of those barriers to
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: my life. So individualists are not as concerned about politics
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: as the rest you know, unless you know it's a
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: particularly interest of yours or career or hobby. But for
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the most part, it's just not that important because too
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: busy living, remember living capital And of course, the politics
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: one embraces as an individualist is a politics of leaving you,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: as an individual, free to do what you think is
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: right and what you think is good for you. What
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: is the politics of individual happiness? Freedom? What's the politics
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: of individuals' ability to pursue their meaning and their purpose
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: in life? Freedom? So individualists embrace a politics of freedom.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: They embrace capitalism. They don't embrace conservatism or nationalism or
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: socialism or any of any of these collectivistic ideologies. They
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: reject all of them. They're not republicans, they're not democrats,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: they're not any thing on the ideological spectrum. They're capitalists
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: because what they care about, what they really care about,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: is freedom. And who's freedom they care most about. They won't.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: They won't because they realize that to fully, to fully
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: be able to live the best life that you can live,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: to take advantage of all the opportunities that exist and
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: could exist, to have the most options, to have the
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: greatest life possible, one must be free and I and
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I think all individualists, real individuals take personally all these
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: evil ideologies. Why, because all these evil ideologies want to
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: place restraints on me, want to limit my ability to live,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: my life, my ability to thrive, my ability to fourlish,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: and the people I love, which is mine. I mean,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: it's not that socialism to me is some abstraction. No,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: it's a way to take away my life. You know.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: They want to tax me more. They want to tell
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: me what I can and cannot do, what businesses I
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: can and cannot open, how I relate to other people.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, the white nationalists. I mean,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: he was surprised that I got so offended because they
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: don't take politics personally. I do because I know the
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: damage they do to me and to you and to
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: people I care about. So I don't want to live
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: in the destructive world. I don't want to live in
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: the world that they create. So meaning is to be
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: found in your own life. Meaning is to be found
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: in living. Purpose is to be found in happiness. The
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: ultimate purpose of life is to live the ultimate purpose
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: of that life is to be happy. It's to live successfully.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: It's to live as a human. It's to live as
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: a rational being and that's a beautiful, motivating, exciting thing.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: It's amazing to me how much or how many people
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: reject individualism when you know it's it's it's so much
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: fun to be oriented and focused on. How do I
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: make my life amiss that it can be? How do
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I live a good life? How do I pursue positive
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: life affirming values? And you know, we can go how
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: to do all that? Thomas says, But how do we
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: confront the void? Thomas should ask a super check question
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: because he's asking a lot of questions in the chat.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Doesn't I mean, when confronts the void by recognizing it
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. When you die, you die,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: you're gone. It's not the void doesn't exist because when
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: you don't exist, nothing exists. So it's just not there.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: There's nothing to be scared of, there's nothing to be
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: afraid of, there's nothing to really be confronted. All you
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: have to do is live. Is there really a void
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: between Adams? Right? Maybe he knows something I don't. But
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: even if there is, who cares? Why does that affect
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: your life? How does the void between atoms affect your life?
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: You have to really come up with some convoluted reasoning
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: to think that if there is a void between atoms,
• 52:14
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  Speaker 1: But let's start with the five hundred Australian dollars, which
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  Speaker 1: is huge. Thank you, Troy, really really appreciate that. And
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  Speaker 1: this is what Troy writes. Years ago, I read I
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  Speaker 1: seemed teleb in sto collection of books. However, I can't
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  Speaker 1: bring myself to pick up his books again. Given his
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  Speaker 1: horrendous view on the Israeli Palestinian conflict, shouldn't be possible
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  Speaker 1: to separate a person's personal views from professional work. Sanctioning
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  Speaker 1: the sanction of I mean, it's it. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: completely healthy. Put it this way. I think it's completely
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  Speaker 1: healthy to not want to touch anything somebody who's doing
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  Speaker 1: passes away at some point and and and years have
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  Speaker 1: gone by, then absolutely you should read his books, and
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  Speaker 1: I think the edge will retreat. I mean, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: right now, reading his stuff feels like a sanctioning of this,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: of of of of him, of Taleb and his views
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  Speaker 1: more broadly. I mean, you could you could expand this right.
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  Speaker 1: part of what they are and and they experienced it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a shame not to be able to enjoy
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  Speaker 1: Vagner's music. So you have to say Wagner was wrong
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  Speaker 1: in this. Maybe even you know said yology was evil,
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  Speaker 1: be able to make that separation. So I completely understand
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  Speaker 1: while things are going on in Israel while it's fresh,
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  Speaker 1: that you cannot pick up an a seam to tell
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  Speaker 1: their book. That makes complete sense to me, and I
• 1:02:50
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  Speaker 1: Is that that puts money in his pocket, And I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't want to do that, But I'd say in ten
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  Speaker 1: years things have common down. Maybe it's not urgent, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he's not writing about it. If there's real value
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  Speaker 1: in those books, and one has the question, I mean
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  Speaker 1: part of the issue, and I don't know that inserto
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  Speaker 1: collection of books. I've read some of his books but
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember there being a collection. I've read Black
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  Speaker 1: Swan and Skin in the Game. I think and and
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: you know, there's value in his books. There's some good
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: stuff in his books, but you also get his really really,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: really awful personality in the books. I mean and and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: the bad philosophy I mean, absolutely corrupt philosophy that that
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: seems to live has I And if you read The
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Black Swan, for example, it is basically a book about skepticism,
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  Speaker 1: defending skepticism. It basically tells you can't know anything. There
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: is no such thing ascertainty. There's no sill seeing as
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: inductive knowledge. You can't really know anything except there's only
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: one thing you can know with certainty, metaphysical suddainty, and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: that is that no sem Teleb is right about everything.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: And that's generally Teleb's practice, it's his modus of paranda.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: It's the way he functions in the world. Skeptical about
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: everything except what nasin. Teleb says, what he says, what
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  Speaker 1: he thinks. He has some connection, some ability to connect
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: to reality that none of us have, that none of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: us have, and we should just just accept his sayings
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: as the truth. Capital truth, capital letters so and the
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Sametimes always had a flawed personality, which is reflected in
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: that kind of a kind of epistemological metaphysical arrogance that
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: comes across in his books and and and and and
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: bad philosophy, which comes across as a skepticism in the books.
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  Speaker 1: So it doesn't surprise me that on certain political issues
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: he is just absolutely fundamentally unequivocally wrong and evil, evil
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: in in his views on the Israel Pelishinian conflict. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: right now, I couldn't read in a sentillion book. I'd
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: keep seeing the name and keep remembering what he says
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: about it. To the extent that there's value in the books,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I would postpone getting that value to uh when when
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: at least that his betrayal of reason and rationality, his
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: betrayal of civilization is not as imminent, as not as relevant, Well,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I can look back at it and say, yeah, consistent
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: with the rest of his character. I I just wanted
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: to learn these nuggets and of way he's right, because
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: on some things he's he's right on. I mean, there's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of truth in some truth in the Black Swan,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of truth in skin in the game
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: and others, and a lot of his critique of finance
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: and of of rely once and soch statistical model modeling
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: is absolutely true. So there's there is value in his books.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: One wouldn't want to ignore that value because he's such
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: as such a a joke and has such bad ideas
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: on other fronts. And one has to be careful when
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: reading somebody like to live knowing that he's wrong on
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: fundamental issues, like his skepticism is astemological, it's deep, it's
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: it's and it's metaphysical. You have to hold that in
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: your mind as you read him, and and what to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: accept about what he says, what he says in the books,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: and what not to accept, and hold him to a
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: very high standard of a proof because he's coming from
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: a corrupt philosophical context, very correp philosophical context. Thank you, Troy.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I hope that was helpful. All right, we've got a
• 1:07:22
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  Speaker 1: He says when Goldwater ran, the GP was not particularly religious.
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• 1:07:37
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  Speaker 1: the Republican establishment shifted to Christian statism, I mean slowly,
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  Speaker 1: time you get to Reagan, Reagan, well he might have
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: not been a Christian status. He brought the Christian status
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: solidly into the Republican Party and made them the core
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: of it, certainly the moral core. But even Goldwater has
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: that right, I mean. Ironman's critique of Goldwater is that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: he is incapable of defending morality. So he is incapable
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: of defending capitalism morally without reference to religion. That Goldwater,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: while himself not particularly religious and and and uh dedicated
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: to the founding and all of that uses religion and
• 1:08:31
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• 1:08:33
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  Speaker 1: she views him this as as a huge weakness of
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: his and ultimately why he loses in the end. So,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: you know, not particularly religious maybe, but still not willing
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: to accept a non religious madl framework and using religion
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: when it's convenient for them. So I think religion has
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: always been in the background. It's always been the default.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: It's always been what they've relied on to justify their
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: other positions, or to think they justify their other positions,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: because you cannot justify the other positions with them. All right,
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• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate one hundred dollars, Doodo Bunny. If we
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: have another worldwide fascist revolution, the Objective's movement will have
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: been a resounding failure. Doodo Bunny loves to point out
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: our failures. It is one thing to win slowly, another
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  Speaker 1: to have Rand's entire philosophical breakthroughs ignored while mankind reverts
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  Speaker 1: the surfdom. But it's a failure that Lendipeacock and to
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: some extent I man predicted. So I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: you call that. When when the philosophy actually predicts that
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  Speaker 1: it's going to happen, right, Leanipeacock will dominant parallels and
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• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: of his lectures has said it's truly for objectivism. We're
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: not going to be able to succeed and prevent this
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: cultural failure. Objectivism will rise up out of the ashes
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: of some dark ages brought about by fascism or communism
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: or whatever that is going to envelop this world. It's
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: part of our philosophy, and it's part of our understanding
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: of the way ideas work in the culture. Objectivism is
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: too hard. After two thousand years of altruism and the
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: dedication to Christianity that both the religiousnessts and the secularists have,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: particularly towards Christian morality, but in two thousand years of
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: false philosophy of rationalism, intrinsicism, subjectivism, relativism, it's just too
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: much to expect the culture to change quickly enough to stop.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: It's the client. I mean, he makes this point pretty
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  Speaker 1: explicitly and dim it's not an issue from his perspective
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  Speaker 1: of failure. It's an issue of this is the state
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  Speaker 1: or lack of it, and it's just going to take
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  Speaker 1: a very, very, very long time for us to convince
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  Speaker 1: them of the reality of this. And you know, it
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  Speaker 1: might very well be that no matter what we do,
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  Speaker 1: no matter how much we try, what arguments we make,
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  Speaker 1: it's too early. It's just too early. Yeah, let's really,
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  Speaker 1: really really hope that in spite of earth whatever, an
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: alco capitalism will never will never happen, because an alcho
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: capitalism is like you know, communism and fascism. It is
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: a system of force. It is a system of force
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  Speaker 1: that is destructive to human individual life, individual human life. Anyway, No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't view it as a failure. You know, if
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: you know medio hits the earth and you know a
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: billion people die, is that a failure of objectivesm There's
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: some things you can change and there's some things you can't. Now,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: you know, people do have free wills they can't change,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean they will, and it doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: you have control over the ability to change. And it
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's just a question of the kind of
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: arguments or more money or more marketing or whatever. We're
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: doing the best that we can and if we manage
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: to change. But it's not a failure of the philosophy
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: at all, because the philosophy completely completely predicts this. Could
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: argue it's the failure of the movement maybe, but you know,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: one of the things that I find unhelpful due to
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Bunny is he's saying stuff like this but not actually
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: saying okay, but offering an alternative what should be done?
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Is there something that could change that I wish I knew, Michael,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: is the concept of a protected class legitimate law. If
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: you assault somebody over sixty is an automatic felony regardless
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: of the degree of harm done because they're vulnerable, they
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: were a vulnerable population group. Or should objective law only
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: go by damage? Yeah, I don't know what a protected
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: class is. I don't think they should be protected classes.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I mean certainly you could. You could have. You could
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: easily have in the law and in sentencing the idea
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  Speaker 1: that you know, if you attack a child, a helpless child,
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  Speaker 1: again to some extent at the margin, that is worse
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  Speaker 1: than attacking a grown adult. If you attack an eighty
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  Speaker 1: year old who can't defend themselves, that's worse than attacking
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  Speaker 1: a twenty five year old. You don't need the concept
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  Speaker 1: of protected class and that you can deal with it
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  Speaker 1: on a case by case basis. It's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: you know, if somebody was assaulted, how bad, what is
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  Speaker 1: the damage? And uh, you know, to what extent was
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  Speaker 1: it should the perpetrator expected that the damage would be
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  Speaker 1: thus given the age of the person, or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: You could you could you know, you could create you
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  Speaker 1: could come up with a rational explanation for why sentencing
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  Speaker 1: of somebody attacking an eight year old is should be
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  Speaker 1: higher than sentencing of attacking somebody younger. But the whole
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  Speaker 1: protected class, which then goes into race and goes into
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  Speaker 1: other things I suspect is illegitimate. But no, it would
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  Speaker 1: be an interesting question to ask some of out lawyers
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  Speaker 1: and some of our legal experts, right, a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: twenty need dollar questions. So let's go down and do these. Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think is the price paid by society
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  Speaker 1: in depriving moral credit to the strong, rational, and successful
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  Speaker 1: in favor of pity for the week? I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what price paid by society means? We got to get
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  Speaker 1: rid among ourselves of collectivistic language. Society doesn't pay a price.
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  Speaker 1: Society doesn't pay a price. So you pay a price.
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  Speaker 1: Individuals pay price. And the price we pay as individuals is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fewer innovators, fewer successful individuals, less innovation, to
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  Speaker 1: enjoy less progress, slow economic growth, less income, more poverty,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: more employment, less you have security, on and on and on,
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  Speaker 1: all the benefits you get from business, and now there's
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: less of it because of not giving the successful them
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  Speaker 1: all credit they deserve. Because this distance sienti advises certain
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  Speaker 1: people from doing it. It, this incentivises certain people from
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  Speaker 1: going the next step. But let's get rid of the
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  Speaker 1: price paid by society language just not useful price paid
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  Speaker 1: by you as an individual ian. How can you get
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  Speaker 1: someone to get the relevance to a fictional character like Rock?
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  Speaker 1: I find people just get upset or confused by characters
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  Speaker 1: than analyzing them objectively. God, you know, I don't know who,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know who these people are. But faced
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  Speaker 1: with Rock, you know, just to ask them questions about
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  Speaker 1: somebody like Rock, Well, what do you think of him? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I'm really upset by his character? Why? What is it
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  Speaker 1: that he does? What are the principles by which he lives?
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  Speaker 1: Do you find those principles offensive? What is it about
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  Speaker 1: his character that defends you? What? You know? You've got
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  Speaker 1: to lead them on with questions. That's how you get
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  Speaker 1: them to think about it. To analyze it objectively is
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: to use questions to guide them. Right and but you
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  Speaker 1: also have to accept that some people find a character
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: like Rock or Ironran's other characters as intimidating, as a
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  Speaker 1: repudiation over their own life and their own character, and
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  Speaker 1: they just don't want to go there. They don't want
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  Speaker 1: to go there. It's not pleasant for them, so they
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  Speaker 1: avoid it. But the more honest ones, if you prod them,
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  Speaker 1: if you ask questions, if you force them to actually
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  Speaker 1: discuss it and think about it and verbalize whatever it
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  Speaker 1: is there thinking, I think that would that is the
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  Speaker 1: best way to get them, if they're honest on a
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  Speaker 1: path to understanding. Catherine says, I will be. I will
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  Speaker 1: attend Iran con EU and Portal last years. I remember
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  Speaker 1: there were discount codes for listeners to your show. Is
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  Speaker 1: I think it's twenty ybs ten, twenty six ybs ten.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's right. Let me know if it doesn't work, Etherne,
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  Speaker 1: just email me at you're on at your on bookshow
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Jason, a debate opponent, defines capitalism as inevitable
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  Speaker 1: concentrating wealth into monopolies the strict free trade, pointing to Google,
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  Speaker 1: Microsoft and Amazon as examples. Why do people conclude this,
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  Speaker 1: and what's the best response. God, I think they concluded
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  Speaker 1: because that's all they know, and it's what their teachers
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: and professors and the culture has oriented them towards. They
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  Speaker 1: can only see the problem, and for some reason, they
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: see these large corporations as problems, and they've been told
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: over and over again that they are problems. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think there's any objective reason why they should conclude this.
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  Speaker 1: There's none, zero, It doesn't exist. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: the best response is to ask them what problem Google,
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  Speaker 1: Microsoft and Amazon represent And whether Google, Microsoft and Amazon,
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  Speaker 1: as a consequence of their size, are they know new startups?
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  Speaker 1: Is bench capitalists not funding anything, particularly when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to Google and Microsoft, Is AI not going to be
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  Speaker 1: a challenge to them? And if you look at all
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  Speaker 1: of the so called monopolies in history, were they not
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: all challenged in there? Did they not all face competition?
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  Speaker 1: It's just factually wrong. It's just factually nonsense. And you
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: just have to show them factually that it doesn't stand
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  Speaker 1: up to scrutiny, and then make the case that the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: only reason people attack Microsoft and Google and Amazon and
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: standard oil and a core steel, core aluminum and all
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: of that is because they're successful. Right, So you've got
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  Speaker 1: to reject the whole framing of monopolies. These are nominopolies.
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  Speaker 1: None of them are. They all face competition where they're
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  Speaker 1: actual or potential. None of them behave like what our
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: economists teach us monopoly should do. So monopolies can only
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  Speaker 1: exist because of the state, if they're granted monopoly power,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: and we don't. The only monopoly we have in the
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  Speaker 1: US is medicare in the post office, and you know,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: some government entities, but there's no monopoly in the private sector.
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  Speaker 1: Just doesn't exist. Can't exist even if it's very very
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  Speaker 1: very big and very very dominant, it always faces competition.
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer has a quote from Neil put quote. Know your
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  Speaker 1: place in life is where you ought to be. Don't
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  Speaker 1: don't let them tell you that you owe it to all.
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  Speaker 1: Don't let them tell you you owe it all to me.
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  Speaker 1: Keep on looking forward. No use in looking round. Hold
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  Speaker 1: your head above the cloud the crowd. Don't let them
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  Speaker 1: bring you down. That's good, right. Know your place in
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  Speaker 1: life is where you ought to be. Don't let them
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  Speaker 1: tell you that you owe it all to me. Keep
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  Speaker 1: on looking forward. No use in looking around. Hold your
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  Speaker 1: head above the crowd, don't let them bring you down.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I could quibble with some of the lyrics,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: like looking around. You actually always want to look around
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: because you want to see what other options they are,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: so just in case, you know, so that you can
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: constantly improve. That's my aunt equibble. But good stuff, good stuff,
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  Speaker 1: hop A Campbell Part one, and then I'll have to
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: go look for part two. Uh. Techo coast and said
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: Ben shapiroses Israel as an Ethno state while simultaneously seeing
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: America as an economic zone. Translation, America needs to become
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  Speaker 1: a white Ethno state in order to compete with the Jews.
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  Speaker 1: Where is Hupper Campbell is Part two? Yeah? I mean
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  Speaker 1: you put put one in the above twenty category, and
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  Speaker 1: you put put two in some other category, and then
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  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to find the part two. It's
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  Speaker 1: not it's there. It is part two. And so we
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  Speaker 1: need to abolish capitalism. Five to ten year years ago,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: no major public commentator could get away with such comings. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not even about abolish capitalism. It's about
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: just the sheer racism and anti semitism that Techo Costa expresses,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: which I don't think were acceptable. Not that long ago,
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  Speaker 1: you just couldn't talk like this, and good. You shouldn't
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: be able to talk like this. I mean, you should
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: be able to legally, but you shouldn't be able to culturally. Socially.
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  Speaker 1: It should be unacceptable, but it's exactly right. I mean,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Tucker Caulson lies about Israel, lies about American support for Israel,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: lies about Ben Shapiro. I mean, I have to say,
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  Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro has come out of all of this strife
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  Speaker 1: a hero, a good guy. I mean, I'm pretty down.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I was pretty down on Ben Shapiro, and now I'm
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  Speaker 1: back in his corner because he stood up to these
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: bastards in a positive way and has called them evil,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: which is incredibly good. Might even be waking up to
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: how bad Trump is, or being willing to admit what
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: he already knew about how bad Trump is. But Tucker
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Carlson is a complete and utter racist collectivist and anti
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: Semitic collectivist. But he's a collectivist, so he hates He
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: hates capitalism, and therefore he's not going to like socialism,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: so he's more inclined towards some kind of elitist fascist
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  Speaker 1: type politics. Whether he recognizes it or not. This is
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: why he's so he finds Putin and Russia so appealing
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: because it is that kind of elitist, fascist type of
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  Speaker 1: government that Russia has, Thank you, Harper, Michael. Will Americans
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  Speaker 1: tolerate a catastrophic decline in living standards? Can characters like
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Mamdani only talk to talk? They eventually have to walk
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: back this statism like Trump is doing with tariffs. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Americans won't tolerate it, But the question is will they
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  Speaker 1: know what to do about it? Will they know how
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  Speaker 1: to fix it? Right now? Okay, we know Tariff's heard
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: our living standards, so roll back Tariff's costs will go down.
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  Speaker 1: Living standards are a little bit better. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we know rank control is bad, so Ma'm Donny's going
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  Speaker 1: to try more of it, and then what will happen?
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  Speaker 1: Will we know then and try to unwind it? So
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  Speaker 1: it's not obvious that we will continue to no understand
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  Speaker 1: learn what actually brings about lower living standard and what
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  Speaker 1: will increase them. So we might not like it, we
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  Speaker 1: might not tolerate it, but the solution to there might
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  Speaker 1: be in some future, not in the short run, but
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  Speaker 1: in the future. A swing between socialism to fascism, to
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  Speaker 1: socialism to fascism, keep looking for alternatives, but all the
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: alternatives are causing a decline in living standards, and there
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: might be no room for free markets because freedom individualism
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  Speaker 1: will be seen as so morally offensive that nobody will
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: embrace it. And this is the sension which morale the
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: ultimately Trump's economics and Trump's living standards now ultimately long term,
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  Speaker 1: as we saw even with a Bilian wall and communism. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: people will reject authoritarianism. People will reject not being able
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  Speaker 1: to live their lives, and that I think will happen.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why the dock ages won't look like past
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: doc ages. It won't be a complete annihilation, I don't think,
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  Speaker 1: because there's too much memory and too much knowledge of
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: how freedom, at least some level of freedom feels like
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: we're not starting from scratch in terms of that knowledge,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: and there's too much. Again, it's a global phenomena. There
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: might be too many counterexamples. Will the whole world become fascists,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: the whole world becomes socialist or just us and then
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: we can see how other countries are doing better. So
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be very difficult difficulty. It won't be
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  Speaker 1: like the Christian Dark Ages or even the Muslim Dark
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  Speaker 1: Ages in terms of what the common person knows is
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  Speaker 1: possible and what they can see out there is happening
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  Speaker 1: in the rest of the world. That is my hopeful James.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: Also Part one and two, Part one, Mamdanni is calling
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: for boycott of Stobucks. This is one of the problems
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: of Trump phenomena. Saying outrageous stuff way outside the wheelhouse
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: of what a politician should say has been normalized by
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: Trump in guns not something else. Now, other politicians, including leftists,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: will blurred out wild things that are irresponsible of someone
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: wielding force to say. I mean absolutely, the culture is
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: going to deteriorate. The culture of politics is going to deteriorate.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: They're all emboldened by Trump to be able to say
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: whatever the hell they want to say. They are they
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: are unintimate, dated. Uh, there's no there's no acceptable, there's
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  Speaker 1: no kind of barrier, there's no there's no anything to
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  Speaker 1: stop them. Right. So yes, But but you know, politiciansn't
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  Speaker 1: be saying ogious things forever. Uh. Trump has just made
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  Speaker 1: it more so. It's not that he invented it. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: I think things are gonna get worse. Politics is gonna
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: get worse. Politics is gonna get worse. There's no doubt
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: on both parties because they're feed off of each other,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: and as they feed off of each other, they're makeing.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like Obama did a lot of executive voters
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  Speaker 1: or no Bush, Bush Junior did a lot of executive orders.
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  Speaker 1: Obama did even more executive voters, and Trump did even
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  Speaker 1: more executive voters, and then Biden did executi votes, and
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: then Trump too, like blows executive voters out of the water.
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  Speaker 1: He's done more executive voters than all of them combined.
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  Speaker 1: I think because what they hell, the standard of moderating
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: executive power is gone. So now everything's ago and you'll
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: see deterioration in every dimension of political politics because of Trump,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: and of course because of what led to the existence
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: of Trump. All Right, Michael, who is more socialist Mamdani
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: or Trump? Mam Donnie wants a bunch of government, big
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: spending programs. Trump has the government take ownership private companies,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: while both a status bruts. Who's most socialists? You know,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. Mamdanni probably is more socialists. If
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  Speaker 1: Mamdanni was president, he would probably do even more socialist.
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  Speaker 1: Remember m'm donnie was running for mayor of a city,
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  Speaker 1: not exactly giving him a lot of power. It's not
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  Speaker 1: like he can confiscate private businesses or take a share
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: in Intel. What if mc donny was running for president,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: I think he would be even more socialist than Trump.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: They're both, as you say, brutes. And Trump might be
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: worse than mum donni for a variety of the reasons
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: of a wall, primarily because he wraps himself in the
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: flag and potends he's in America first. But you know,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: mum donnie is is going to be more committed. Trump
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: is not committed to anything other than his own emotions,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: and you know, other than his own emotions, his own whims,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: his own power lust, his own lust for whatever. Mum
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: Donnie's more ideological and more consistently a socialist. Andrew, individualism
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: is good, It's true, good, sexy. Powerful. Collectivism is dark
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: force that provides a fleeing feeling of safety from terror.
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  Speaker 1: It's popularity is possibly due to lack of advocacy for individualism.
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  Speaker 1: It's on our subjectives. I mean, maybe you know again,
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys oversimplify this. Its popularity is due
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: to altruism. Its popularity is due to an educational system
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  Speaker 1: that teaches kids not the thing, but to remote to
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: elevate feeling above all else. So collectivism in the culture
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: is the default. So again I don't think it's on
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  Speaker 1: us in a sense of our failure. I don't view
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  Speaker 1: that at all. It's we have to be objective about
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: the kind of culture we face, the kind of obstacles
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: we face, And we face the culture that elevates emotions
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  Speaker 1: above reason, that rejects and demonizes egoism, and then embraces
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  Speaker 1: in epistemology of kind of mysticism, whether they left or right,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: and a morality of altruism, and again pure emotionalism, through
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: and through, through and through. So we can there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people out there you can be the
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: best advocate of in the world of individualism until you're
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: blow in the face and it doesn't move them one
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: way or the other because they're so thoroughly you know,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: it's not brainwashed, but they're so thoroughly they have so
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: thoroughly embraced mysticism, emotionalism, collectivism, altruism, it's very, very hard
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: to dislodge that. You know what did the just or say,
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  Speaker 1: give me your child till the age of five, and
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: I have them for the rest of their lives or
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: something like that. Right, the kind of tomology, the kind
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: of morality you teach young kids, it's very difficult to
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: undo later, very difficult to do. And the kind of
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: power the culture has on those kids with the ideas
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: that they're exposed to, it's very hard to undo. Andrews says,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: I once asked you what ran meant by cynicism is naive?
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  Speaker 1: You said you didn't know. I think she meant values
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  Speaker 1: are real and a generalized doubt that values can be
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  Speaker 1: attained is very false the point of obliviousness, comments well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it depends on what you mean by naive.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what she meant by naive. I agree
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  Speaker 1: with you that she meant values are real and in
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  Speaker 1: a sense cannot be avoided. And maybe that's what the
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: naivete is. The naivet is about. They cannot be avoided.
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  Speaker 1: Life requires values one way another life requires values, and
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  Speaker 1: life requires certainty. It requires knowledge and cynicism. You can
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  Speaker 1: be cynical, but you can't live a life as a
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: cynic At the end of the day you have to pursue.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you're going to value
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Your life requires you
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: to do certain things, and if you don't do it,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: you die. I think that's what you mean, Benave that
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  Speaker 1: you can state it. You can, you can try to
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  Speaker 1: hold it, but it's so opposite of reality that you
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  Speaker 1: can't really live it, can't really live it that every
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  Speaker 1: everything that you do on a day to day basis
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  Speaker 1: requires you not to be a cynic. Jennifer says, what
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  Speaker 1: if look around Neil didn't mean looking around at reality,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: which you should always do, of course, but looking around
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  Speaker 1: for approval from others. Would that make more sense? Yeah,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: it's just not clear from that particular paragraph. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely not look around for approval of others and not
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: look around for how others are doing, even to compare
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: yourself to others in any kind of way. But if
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: you know it comes it can come across too much
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: as look around to see what other options and what
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: else is available, rather than But yes, you can certainly
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: view look around as a negative if you create the
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  Speaker 1: right context for it. Thank you, Jennifer. All right, we've
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  Speaker 1: got a bunch of five dollars and two dollars and
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: ten dollars questions. So let's go with these fleshing they
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: achieved nothing because we told them we are all winners
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: no matter the actual results. How can we fix that now? Yeah,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's right. That's part of the
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: destruction of self esteem. It's part of many things. It's
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: not the only thing. That many reasons why they've achieved nothing.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't teach them to think. We told them to emote.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: We encourage them to be mystical. We encourage altruism, we
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: courage collectivism. So lots of things. One of them, one
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: of the most devastating ones, was everybody gets a ribbon.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: Whether you achieve or you don't achieve, you get a ribbon.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: And how do you fix that? Now? You have to
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: slap in them face. Intellectually, you have to basically tell
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: them how wrong they are. You have to present something positive.
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  Speaker 1: You have to encourage them to go out and seek
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  Speaker 1: values and feel what it's like to actually achieve something.
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  Speaker 1: But noe that A lot of these people do achieve stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They get good grades in school, they gain knowledge, they
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  Speaker 1: go out and start companies. They might even become rich.
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  Speaker 1: One day. It's not the lack of achievement that is
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: the problem. It's the lack of ability to patch yourself
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  Speaker 1: on a bag, to accept that achievement, to recognize that
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: it's you, and to recognize that as the essence of
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: what life is about those kind of achievements. Oh, we've
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: got a socialist I see in the chats. Ask a question,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: make a comment in the super chat. Happy to respond, Alessandra,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: what are some examples of egoist life purposes? How can
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  Speaker 1: each of us find our own? Well? First, the egoist
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: like purpose that is universal is happiness, success with living, flourishing.
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  Speaker 1: So those abstractions, now you might say, how do you
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  Speaker 1: how do you achieve that? Well, that requires the creation
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  Speaker 1: of a higherch of values thatuire is actually thinking about,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: what does your life actually require? And and what are
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  Speaker 1: you excited about? What are you passionate about? What do
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: you care about? Given what your life requires? And of
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  Speaker 1: course central to uh a like purpose is going to
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: be a career. And each one of us has our
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  Speaker 1: own career. But it's the kind of career that is universal,
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  Speaker 1: that is something that challenges you, something you're willing to
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  Speaker 1: dedicate real thought to, something that you you're really you're
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: going to dedicate passion and time and effort and really
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  Speaker 1: work through it that you think through that you pursue
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: over a long term. But that's that's a central purposes,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: not doesn't compose your entire purpose. You gotta you gotta
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: find somebody to love. We're not all going to fall
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: in love with the same person, which is good. So
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: putting the effort into doing that and and seeking it
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: out and finding it, you know. So, so doing the
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  Speaker 1: things uh that are within using reason, using your rational mind,
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  Speaker 1: finding the things that are of value to you, discovering
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: those and creating a hierarchy of those more important to
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: less important, and pursuing the more important ones. That's an
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  Speaker 1: egoistic life. That's an egoistic life. Purpose. I want to
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  Speaker 1: be happy, and the way to be happy is to
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  Speaker 1: do these things. Find a career, find people I love,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and find ways to manifest my life in
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: this reality, manifest myself and flourish, pursue art, and pursue
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: the things that really bring me joy and bring me
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: long term happiness, assuming they're rational, assuming they really are
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: pro life. Paul says, what do you think of phasing
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: our pennies. I'm all for phasing our pennies. I mean,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: they're just a hassle. They sit in your pocket, they
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: don't make any defense inters of uh cost of living
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: or anything like that, So get rid of them. I mean,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: what do we need them for. They're just they're just
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: a hassle, you know. And and to the extent that
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: we still use physical money their hassle, and to the
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: extent that then our physical money. I don't know, it's
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: it's not It doesn't seem necessary to me to have
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: everything to the hundredths of a dollar rather than a
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: tenth of a dollar. I don't see your email, Paul.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know where you sent it, but I don't
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: see it. Email is not working. Maybe let me check
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: out my phone. If I see it on my phone,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: where did you send it to? You send it to
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: you run at yourn bookshow dot com. I don't think
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: you did. Let me see if it's in the junk folder. Uh, alright,
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  Speaker 1: let's see I I I still don't have the Uh.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: I still don't have it, and I don't see it
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  Speaker 1: in my Wait a minute, let me check the junk folder.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Junk folder. No, nothing, nothing, Paul. Sorry, I don't know.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe something's wrong with my email. All right, let's see,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: uh boons, do you think Leonard's did hypots? This is
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: coming true? Yes, I was thinking it made sense and
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: that was a direction. Uh, we were heading in. It's
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: just a question of the time scale and whether we
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: can prevent it. It seems to be accelerating, and it
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: seems to be coming through all the peak conditions Leonard
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: placed on. It seemed to be manifesting. Uh deep out
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: with Diego when they are I allow Fortnite skins. I
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: want to run around as I ran Lennapeakff, You and Rosie.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: not sure I want to know what you're talking about.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Steve and Stephen Katz, have you
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: hood of the asylum asylum corporate agreement with on doers?
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: They might not be any private asylum attorneys in the
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: US if it gets enforced. I have not. I have not.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: I'll have to check this out and find out what
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: is what it is, so just copying pasting, all right,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: all right, thanks Steven. Sorry I don't have a comment
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: because I don't know what it is. Sounds spooky, all right, John,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: John always with his uh yeah. Anyway, Charles Maury thinks
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: the high IQ of as Kanazi Jews has a genetic component.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: Is he a tribalist? I believe we he's of English
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: and Dutch descent. I'm sure it has a genetic component.
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  Speaker 1: A composition of our brain has a genetic component. How
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: big that is, it's hard to tell. They all have
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  Speaker 1: genetic compon but IQ is overrated as being of any
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  Speaker 1: kind of importance. Group I q's are stupid because I
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: know a lot of stupid Ashkenazi Jews, really really dumb ones.
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  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter that Ashinizi Jews group have a
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: high one, because there's some who have stupid and I
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: only deal with individuals. I don't deal with groups. And yeah,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Charles Marie unquestionably has a collectivistic streak to him, There's
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: no question about that. And it's no accident by the
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: way that he has just announced that he is taking
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: religion much much more seriously, that he has become becoming
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: much more religious. I think in the last few months
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: he's written about this. So that doesn't surprise me, because
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: as much as he presented himself as a rationalist and
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: as an individualist. There's science. Clearly, much of the science
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: that he has produced, most of the books that he's written,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: ultimately buy into collectivistic premise. Tribalism is a particularly nasty
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: form of collectivism. I prefer to call him a collectivist
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: rather than a tribalist, which which you know, I think
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: he I think he is. You take any talk of his,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: and you take any kind of book of his, and
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: you can find significant collectivistic elements within it. And I
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: think it's you know, I think that probably gets worse
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: over time, and it's what ultimately ultimately you come. You
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: come to religion because you need a crutch for it. Though. Anyway,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: my interpretation, so, yeah, definitely a collector. Definitely a strong
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: streak of collectivism in Charles Murray. I don't think that's controversial.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Nachavijago with them. Socialism begins with envy, moves on to violence,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: ends with the starvation. Yeah, I think that's all right.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a little anti intellectual to
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: say envy. Sometimes it begins with theory, it begins with abstractions,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: begins with a philosophy or a view of the world.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: It definitely moves into violence, and it definitely ends with starvation.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: But it might start not from envy, but some not
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: from a psychological cause, but a theoretical cause. A lot
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: of socialists happened to be rich, I think happened to
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: me pretty well off, so not in a position where
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: they're envying somebody else, but in a position where they're
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: just rotten intellectually. Linda says, A great show few for
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: my soul. Thank you, Thank you, Linda. I appreciate the support, Clark.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Most professional intellectuals today are simply over educated layabouts who
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: look at something being run successfully in the real world
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: and attempt to explain why it does not work in theory.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I think you're over simplifying
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: and too harsh, you know. I think in essense you're
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: too easy on them and too harsh on them. Most
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: professional intellectuals take evil ideology seriously because, to some extent
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: most of them, that is the primary exposure that they've had. Plus,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: the only way to get ahead in places like akademia
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: in the humanities is if you have an evil ideology,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: say's a built in and your professor's all holding the
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: same evil ideology. So it's not that they're just sitting
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: around and they're trying to know. They actually believe in
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: the stuff, and what they believe is really awful, and
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: they believe it for a variety of reasons, to fit in,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: to advance in academia, and because they can't imagine anything different,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: because they evade and they're corrupt. So I think they're
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: worse than the way you project them. Roland, did you
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: get to do some sight seeing an SFO Any favorite
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: places you left to visit? I did not. It was
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: a really quick in and out. I love Golden Gate
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: Park and uh, I love the Golden gate Bridge and
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: in the whole area where you can see the Golden
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: Gate Bridge. I love just the views you get from
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: a variety of different high you know, locations that are
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: high up. I had a pretty I had a good
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: view for my hotel. The Presidio is beautiful. The Presidio
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: is beautiful. I mean, there are a lot of lots
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: and lots and lots and lots of beautiful places in
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: San Francisco, one of the most beautiful cities in the world.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: Michael says Bencher is turning on Trump more and more publicly.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: He's realizing that Trump phenomena is destroying the conservative movement
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: and churning out anti Semwich like mad I have not
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: seen him turning on Trump, but I don't see I
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: don't follow up Ben Shapiro. So I believe you, and
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: and good good for Ben Shapia, And I think it's
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: absolutely right. As I said years ago, the descent of
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: the right is a consequence. It's a cause and an
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: effect of Donald Trump. Donald Trump reinforces the worst elements
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: on the right, and the more he does and the
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: more he gets re elected, the more embold than they become,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: and the more he gives them kind of a thumbs
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: up and a wink and and so on, the more
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: they get involved and the more they get strong. So yeah,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: Trump is the destroyer of the Republican Party, the destroyer
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: of the right. And I've been saying it for nine years. Finally, finally,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: maybe some other people are figuring this out about time.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: I like numbers, can only people to outviews care about politics? No,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: everybody cares about politics. My point was the people without
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: views care less about politics, because then that that interesting
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: controlling other people and the power that comes from politics.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm not exactly what you mean by the question, Clark.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: Part one. I had a debate discussion was some European
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: high school and university students. And while it, while it
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: is incredibly refreshing how knowledgeable and intellectual they are compared
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: to Americans, the bigant passion of their altruism is so depressing.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: They don't hold it implicitly like Americans do. They promote
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: it proudly on a conceptual level. Yeah. I think that's right.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's everywhere. They completely internalize that. In America,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: you still have that American sense of life fighting against it.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: You still have a basic individualistic, basic individualistic, you know,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: kind of undertone to America. It's none of that exists
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: in Europe. And what you get is the unbridled, pure
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: just just what do you call it? Vitriol of altruism
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: in Europe. It's sad. It shows you what can happen
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: when you get these kids and you you you you
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: kind of have them when they're very young. All right,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: you know, because I mentioned that, I'm just going to
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: skip ahead to this obnoxious question. John says, what is
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: your source for the led Jessuit claim? Give me X
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: years as usual? You're making stuff up. So as usual
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: I'm have one hundred percent correct. I missed the number
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: of years, but you put XO. I assume you're not
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: going to hold me to the number of years, John,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: But as usual, you are wrong, John, and I'm right.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: And what I do on my show is you know,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: ninety five percent facts, and yes I do make mistakes
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: once in a while. But here's the direct quote. And
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: this is the quote from the founder of the Jessic Brotherhood.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: What was his name, uh Loola. This is from Loyola,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: the founder of the Jesuit order. Give me a child
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: till he is seven years old, and I will show
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: you the man. In other words, in those seven years,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: I can I know what kind of you know, based
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: on what I do with him in the seven years,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: I can shape the kind of man he will be.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: So my quote is not exactly right, but it's one
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: hundred percent consistent with the quote from Loyola. And by
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: the way, if you just google that, as I did
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: when I saw your question come through, you would find it.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: It's not it's not that where uh you know, it's
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: all over Google quote by Jessert Maxim give me a
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: child for the first give me a child for the
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: first seven years, and I'll give you the man that
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: is a jessert maxim So attributed to Loola. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've got a full page in many pages
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: about this, so not that hard to discover that as
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: usual as usual, I am right. So you guys should
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: should be a little bit more hesitant before telling me
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: that I'm full of it. You should at least google
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: what I say, and you know, just not that Google's
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: always right, but it's better than you know than just
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: assume me I'm wrong. Matt says, completely consistent with what
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: I just said. No one spits straight facts for an
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: hour like you're on. Actually it's almost two hours. Thank you,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: Matt Michael. We'll see if John comes back and apologizes.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: What Ben Shapiro, have you on to discuss the corecauson?
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: And then you write, would say, would you work for
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: the Daily Wire? If he allowed you to say whatever
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: you want? I would approach Ben about it. Yeah, I
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: would definitely go in the show. Would he have me?
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: Probably not. I've approached him in the past, like after
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: Clober seventh, I said, Hey, what about if I come
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: on the show to talk about Israel? And he never
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: you respawned about something else, but he he oh. I
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: thanked him for his position in Israel and said would
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: he have me on to talk about it? And he
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: thanked me for thanking him, but not did not invite
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: me to come on. So I doubt that he'll come on.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: And he's never going to have me on a daily wire.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, he is a religious collector. He is a
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: religious ultimately and has a collectivistic streak, there's no question.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: And look who he has on on, you know, Matt
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: walshon and and what's his name knows would would resign immediately.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: He would destroy the Daily Wire and his audience would flee.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: Ben Shapier's audience would flee. They don't want to hear me.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: What makes people afraid of selfishness? Not preachers, professors of philosophers,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: real people who maybe honestly mistaken well their education, Their mothers,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: their their preachers, their philosophers, their teachers, everybody who they've
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: ever interacted with, their their own ideas. They've been told
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again how evil
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: selfishness is and that it causes you to be a lying,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: cheating soob. So yeah, it's it's their education, their education,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: and and of course the fact that they feel unequipped
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  Speaker 1: to deal with self interest, to deal with their own lives.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: So the fact that then ill equipped, they don't they
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: have not been taught how to use their mind, and
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they've been told over and over and
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: over again how evil they would be if they adopted
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: such a moral code. Linda says, because they ought would
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: love to be a sponsor. We can so I said previously,
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: we should talk about it, Paul, I'm having trouble with
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: the super chat. It won't Oh yeah, let me see
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: if I got your Let me see if I got
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: your question. This. Okay, here's post question. Do you have
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: any comment to make to Harriman's statement. I wonder what
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: Ironran would think of Iran Institute's fight for the communism
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: of the Left from AIRI Facebook from November three, other
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: than he's a pathetic fool, pathetic in mall, weak, incompetent fool. No,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: not really. As I said, there will be a day
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: of reckoning. I'm just not quite ready for that. There
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: will be a day reckoning, And then I'll tell you
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: what I think of Dave Hammond and my history with
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: Dave and his history, but framed to call AIRII communists.
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  Speaker 1: It's just stupid. He's dumb. He's made himself dumb. He
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: has a mind that he stopped using a while back,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: and uh, and he has made himself stupid and dumb.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: You know, he's a nine to eleven conspiracy theorist. He's
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: adorra of Donald Trump now just a supporter, an adora
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. And he he like others. Basically, anybody
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: who doesn't agree with Donald Trump is a communist. That
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: is it. Donald Trump is the stand of truth. And
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: you know what would iron Man think of a mindless
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: of a mindless ignoramous like like Dave Harmon And you
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: could quote me on that, right, Michael, After Mom, Donnie,
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  Speaker 1: will New York City do an overreaction like they did
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: by electing Woody Giuliani. I don't think Woody Giuliani was overreacted.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: Giuliani was a world class I mean that's an overreaction.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: Giuliani was an horrible, awful, disgusting human being that was
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: elected mayor of New York because because he went after
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: Wall Street and he and he tried to try to
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: get as many people in Wall Street put in jail
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: and he was an incredibly destructive And you know, the
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: main good thing that Giuliani did in New York is
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: he is he chose a good chief of police. Beyond that,
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: Giuliani uh was acted like a fascist mayor of New York,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: violating people's property rights, rezoning people out of out of
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: their businesses. He was. He was not a good man.
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: He's not a good he's not a good man. He's
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: not a good guy. He's not a good human being.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: So I hope we do much better than Wouldy Giuliani.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: I am very anti Rooty. If you haven't figured that out,
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: somebody says Jamie Diamond from may Yeah, Jamie Down would
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: be good. Jamie Down for president, Michael. If you look
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: at the numbers, mam, Donnie didn't win by a huge margin.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he he got over fifty percent, fifty point
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  Speaker 1: five or something like that. What's his name, Como got
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: forty forty one. That's a big margin. Now, it's not
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: as big as past elections. Usually the Democrat wins by
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: a massive margin, right, the Democrat widge seventy to thirty
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: or something. But in this case, you had two Democrats running.
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  Speaker 1: Given that you had two Democrats running. Ma'm donny won
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  Speaker 1: by a good margin, good margin if he don't only
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  Speaker 1: against the Republican it wouldn't but by much larger margin.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: Vitky did you put on Jena Golin's work to the
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  Speaker 1: founders at the Christianity de bait? I think she's a
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  Speaker 1: great value in a way for them to see the
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: value of end Yeah, I mean I think she is
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  Speaker 1: a great value. I don't think she needs me to
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  Speaker 1: promote herself to founders. But no, I didn't. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think of it good kind of good at a idea.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: If I go there again, I will I will take
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: note of that debait was on Christianities. It never really
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: came up part one. This is not you have a
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: joggle with him in guns and guns, jumps and steel.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: The author argues the reason Africa didn't develop like the
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: other continents is because Africa has no rivers running through it,
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: which may trade almost impossible, while philosophical ideas are primary
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: to society's development. Is there some truth to this argument?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I just don't know, right. There are no
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: rivers running through Greece, but I guess Greece as a coast,
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: so does Africa. Africa much of Africa as coast. They
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: could have they could have sailed to different places around
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: the world in boats. But it is true that if
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: you look at early civilizations, early civilizations, they developed around rivers.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: So the Nile, that's Africa, by the way, So we
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: have to remember Africa is the birth of modern civilization
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: or some civilizations the Nile. So you had Egyptian civilizations,
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: do you Euphradus which is where Mesopotamian civilizations arose. There
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: was a very thriving civilization in Central Asia. There's a
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: number of rivers there. So look, rivers are important and
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: give you access to sea and give you access to trade,
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: and give you access to interaction with other people. I
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: think there's something to be said about Africa's isolation as
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: a cause for its lack of development, but I don't
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: know enough about the time frame when it happened. When
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: did they When did people? We all came from Africa,
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: so when when did we move out of Africa? All
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: of that is uh. I just don't know enough about it.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: But rivers are important, and all you have to do
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: is look at history and you can see it. Access
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: to other civilizations, they possibly the ability to trade, the
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: ability to trade, not just in physical goods, but in
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: ideas is crucial. And yeah, I have no explanation really
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: for I don't know, but Rivers is not crazy. And
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: remember the beginning of a civilization is pre ideas. Why
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: does some civilization even develop ideas? And the first ideas,
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: real ideas that comes from that comes from Greece, you know,
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: So why Greece? Why not Egypt? Why not a seentertainment?
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: Why not China? White Greece. I don't know that there
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: is an explanation, right, So you know, I think to
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  Speaker 1: develop trade is crucial, and you have to have access
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: to trade. You have to have the ability to trade again,
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: trade not just in goods but also in ideas, particularly
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: in a world where all you have around you is
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: a tribe. But I think some of it is just accident.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: You know, certain types of geniuses were born at a
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  Speaker 1: certain point in time in Greece and not somewhere else, right,
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: But real philosophical ideas come from from Greece. Other civilizations
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  Speaker 1: had certain aspects of math, and say Sumerian said math, Yeah,
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: I mean they even had law, what's his name's Lawmawabi's
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: laws in Mesopotamia, Indian civilization In Chinese civilization had other
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: civilizing aspects, other parts of you know, pieces of the puzzle. Again,
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: the strongest was in Greece. But why did Africa had none?
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: Why did North and South America have none? I don't
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: think we have a clear explanation for any of that.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: You know, North and South America have rivers, can't just
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: be rivers. But isolation makes things, makes it difficult to advance.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: Whoops and says asked, how long of dark ages before
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  Speaker 1: objectives to send? I have no idea, no even idea
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: how to even think about it? And I and again,
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what a dark ages actually looks like
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: In the modern era? Was the debating effects a film?
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: Will they be uploaded? Know? And know? If it was
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: not filmed, it cannot be uploaded? Marius globalization led to
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: outsourcing a production to lower cost regions. How can you
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: convince the factor we work it to support zero protectionism? Well,
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, first, globalization did not lead to outsourcing a
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: production to lower cost regions. Again, we produce more stuff
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: today in America than we ever did. Globalization or globalization
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: and technology ultimately led to the introduction of technology into
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: factories and less need for human beings. People lost their
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: jobs to manufacturing, not to the Chinese, but to robots
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: and to mechanization. Now, specific industries were lost, like textile
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: was lost to Vietnam and bungaledation other places. And the
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: way to convince workers to support zero protecttionism is to
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: convince them that they're better off doing more productive jobs,
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: that they will make more money, they stand living will
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: be higher, their children will not be stuck in manual labor,
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: but their children will become programmers and be able to
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: embrace a high tech economy. And beyond that, you have
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: to convince them that they have no right to stop progress.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: They have no rights to lower the standard of living
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: for their fellow Americans or for anybody in for that matter.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody has a right to a job factory because don't
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: have a right to job. And the whole basis of freedom,
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: the whole basis of economic progress, the whole basis of liberty,
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: the whole basis of the American system, is that you
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: do not have a right to force your neighbor to stagnate.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: So you know you're gonna lose your job at a factory,
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: retrain and get a better job. That's what they need
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: to be told. They need to be treated as adults.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: Treat as adults and not as children that are dependent.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: They need to be told the truth, just like a
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: lot of people should be told the truth. Now they're
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: gonna lose their jobs to AI. Better think about retraining, better,
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: think about how to, how to how to do well
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: in the coming economy. But you have no right to
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: force me to segonate. Uh Eastern something out Western something.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: I recently read Radicals for Capitalism, uh The Machinery of
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: Freedom by by David Freedom Freedom in the Young. He says,
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: man can go to hell by his own choosing. Is
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: that where you disagree with an alco capitalism. I don't
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: understand that capitalism capital capitalize what we can should I
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't understand the question. So he says,
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: man can go to hell by his own choosing. Yes,
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's right. He can go to hell right
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: here on earth by his own choosing. But the problem
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: is that with an alco capitalism, because there's no system
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: of protection of individual rights, he can take the rest
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: of us with him. That is, there's no barriers to
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 1: the use of force, there's no restrictions on the use
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: of force. There's no stopping one defense agency from dominating
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: other defense agencies, taking them over and imposing authoritarianism over
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: all of us, or just living in a state of
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: constant fighting. So Thomas, I mean, David Friedman thinks that
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: Somalia is because they have private law. Some tribes have
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: Sharia law, which is a form of private law. And
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going, yeah, no human beings should live under sharia law.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: Sharia law is evil, and David say, yeah, they chose
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: it to who cares well, you know it matters. There
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: is such a thing as universal universality of good law,
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: and there is such a thing as individual rights. David
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: Freedman thinks individual rights on nonsense unstilts. So the idea
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: that rights nonsense unstilts the idea that you know that
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: you could create, that there's no such thing as individual rights,
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: that there's no such thing as universal good law. That
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: my neighbor can inflict his stupidity on me, that is unacceptable,
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: that is I mean, I've written a whole essay on this.
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: It's on Brian Kaplan's blog, substack whatever it's on, also
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: on Don Watkins Substact. There's a whole essay of my
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: critique of and caps Why I think in alco capitalism
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: is wrong, evil, unacceptable. Your republic protects the individual. But
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: the republic is not an ocha capitalism. There's non alco capitalism.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: There's no republics in an oca capitalism, and alco capitalism
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: is whatever. Fight it out. But check out my essay.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: It's Don Watkins probably easiest to find. Just put anarchy.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: You're on book essay or something like that. And Google,
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, the beauty of Google is God.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: How anybody dislikes Google? I don't understand. Now, do you
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: have a jog WITHITHM? These new right channels think the
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: way to get attention and grow their shows is to
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 1: interview Nick Foyantis. There's no excuse of platforming an absolute
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: lunatic who's detrimental to humanity. Yes, and I don't think
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: he's a lunatic. I think that's way too generous. He's evil.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: He's evil, and there's no reason to platform evil badly.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: Being able to distinguish between reality and the social realm
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 1: is so empowering. You don't need to be liked to survive.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: You just need individual rights. Yeah, you need to think
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: to survive. You need to use your mind to survive.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: That's right. Ian. Watching the Q and A from America
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: versus Americans, you mentioned that attacking Venezuela would be in
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: your best interest. Do you still hold that today? Wow,
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: I said that. I don't remember that. I don't remember that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it would be good in a sense, but
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 1: only if nobody dies as a consequence. I don't think
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 1: it attacking Venitula is. I need to go back and
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  Speaker 1: see what I actually said. But I don't believe that
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  Speaker 1: it justifies, you know, young men's giving up their life
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 1: for it. I don't think it justifies the risk of putting,
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: you know, young men at risk. There's no what's the
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: positive you're gaining. I mean, the oil maybe, but it
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: just doesn't strike me as important enough. There's plenty of
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: oil in the United States, not local short of oil.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: So I just don't see the point of it. Maybe
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: at the time because they had nationalized oil, or maybe
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: at the time because ris Balana, the Islamists were We're
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: training in the in the Jungles. Maybe maybe I was
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: just wrong back then. Maybe I'm wrong now. I don't know,
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: but I right now I do not think that putting
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: American lives at risk to attack Venitula is justified. If
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: you could do it without that, then yeah, sure. I
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: mean it's an evil regime. It has no rights overthrow it.
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: It's just a question of does it justify the placing
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: the lives of Americans at risk? Benjamin Johnsen, I got
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: a job in a public railway company based on my
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: experience in the private sector working in innovation. What's your
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: advice for how to deal with a bureaucracy and facilitate
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: for prosperity things. Look, I don't know that they have advice, right.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to deal with what you got
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: to deal. You're not going to it's probably unlikely that
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: you're going to be able to change the bureaucracy in Norway.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 1: You have got to focus on doing a good job.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's okay to work in the sense
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: for a government run railway system because all the railways
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: a government run and it's a legitimate job to have.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: But you just got to do the best job that
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: you can do, best job that you can do, and
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: you're not going to take on the whole bureacracy by yourself.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know that there's any point Jeffrey, Hey, Jeffrey
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: Michelin Awards ceremony on this Tuesday in Philadelphia, fingers crossed.
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely so. Jeffrey runs a one Michelin Star restaurant in
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 1: New York called Bar Miller, which is exceptional, really really
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: really good omakase and Japanese sushi, and it is phenomenal.
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 1: Highly recommend it if you're in New York to go there.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: And he has one Michelin Star. The problem of getting
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: a Mischelin Star is now every year you stress about
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: am I keeping the star? You know, am I going
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: to keep the star? And can I get a second star?
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: And you know it's you know, having a restaurant is
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: a stressful thing, and you know, and having a Mistion
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: Star not having a Mister Star. Ivan one versus two
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: versus three have real economic consequences, real economic consequences. Andrew
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: wants to know how we can rig this. I don't know.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: You could sign up to be a Michelin Guide restaurant reviewer,
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: which I think would be a cool job. I would
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 1: love to have that job, and then you could bias
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: the results towards the restaurant you liked. Good luck Jeffy,
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: you certainly deserve it, so I'm hopeful that you get
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: and I hope you you saw yourself from last year's
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: Michelin ceremony, there was a documentary about a different restaurant.
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: It focused on a different restaurant that got its first star,
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 1: but in the background you could see Jeffrey getting his
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: getting called up on stage and getting his first Michelin
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: star last year. So fingers crossed for h for this year. JPS.
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 1: In the movie Shane, Shane stops his friend from going
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: into town to face the evil rancher and his hired gungslinger,
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: arguing he'd be killed. Was Shane morally justified and using
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: force to stop him. It's a tough one, but I
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: think in the end of the day, yes, you know
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: his friend was was going to go. You know, his
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: friend was going to go, and Shane, it was clear
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: to Shane that he was going. If he went, he
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: would he would die, He would be killed. He was
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: no match for the gun slinger. Shane also knew that
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 1: he could take care of them, and he was a
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: match with the gun slinger. And so yes, I think
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  Speaker 1: sometimes as an act of love it can be appropriate
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  Speaker 1: to use physical force to prevent somebody you love from
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  Speaker 1: doing something really really really stupid. I wouldn't make that
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  Speaker 1: a strategy, but this is life or death. And notice
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  Speaker 1: that Shane never goes back to his friend, never goes
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  Speaker 1: back to the ranch. He rides off into the sunset,
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  Speaker 1: and partially it's not clear they can be friends again
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  Speaker 1: because he used forced on him. He did use force
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  Speaker 1: on him. So it's one of those things that sometimes
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  Speaker 1: have to be done, but not something that you want
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  Speaker 1: to make a habit of. You want to do more
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  Speaker 1: than once. Jeffy says, yes, after we won last year,
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  Speaker 1: we more than doubled our sales. Fantastic. So yeah, let's
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  Speaker 1: hope Jeffy keeps the Star at least and that it
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: goes well. And yeah, so it's when did he say?
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  Speaker 1: It was? Tuesday? Tuesday? Okay, we'll read up on it
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  Speaker 1: tuesday night. On Wednesday, I'll look it up on the
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  Speaker 1: web and see what's happening. Exciting, and all of you
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  Speaker 1: should check out. I mean, everybody who's gone, who has
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  Speaker 1: gone based on my recommendation has loved it so and
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: quite a few people have gone so so, so do
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  Speaker 1: it all right, Lincoln says, just started my rough draft
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: of my first novel. It's about two romanticized young singers
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 1: that get discovered by a record label label but need
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 1: to fight the label, trying to control their values and lives.
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  Speaker 1: The novel will have, you know, we'll have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of objectivist themes, as the characters take pride in their art,
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  Speaker 1: success and money and stand up for the values despite
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  Speaker 1: external pressure to change. That's great. I mean, be careful
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  Speaker 1: not to be dogmatic and not to be overly preachy.
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  Speaker 1: Remember that you're telling a story, and the key is
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  Speaker 1: the story and the values, the values you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: The objectivest theme should come out through the story more
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: than through any kind of explicit statements. I mean, Iran
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: could get away with some statement, but that's hard, really
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  Speaker 1: hard for a novelists. So think about it, Andrew. Is
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  Speaker 1: the essential and intellectual value of Greek culture the institution
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  Speaker 1: of reason as the means of intellectual inquiry. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: think that's right. I think that's the number one value.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there are number of values, but yes, the
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  Speaker 1: idea that one needs to seek truth through reason, that
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  Speaker 1: is it. And the truth is possible, the reason isifications.
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  Speaker 1: That is it. Just into another email a boy tisorship.
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  Speaker 1: Linda says, thank you, Linda Lincoln. It's gonna take a
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  Speaker 1: long time for it to be written. I'm expecting it
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  Speaker 1: to be seven hundred ish pages, and obviously being a
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: student limits possible writing time. Good luck, Yeah, all the
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  Speaker 1: best with that. It's that is a big project, Marius.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 1: Is what I think of Calvin Coolidge. Very mixed on
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: college Coolidge, I mean, he was certainly good on certain
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: economic issues. It was generally lais affair, generally left alone.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: He didn't roll back things like antitrust and other regulations
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: and other laws that infringed in economic liberty, but he
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: didn't enforce it quite as much, right, so under him
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: enforcement's law. On the other hand, he was very bad
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: on tariffs. He raised tariffs t haves already existing, and
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: he raised them during their ten twenties when he was president.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 1: And he was very bad on immigration. He basically was
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: responsible for the passes in nineteen twenty four immigration law
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: that basically ended most immigration to the United States. So
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 1: how do you want to weigh the bad versus the good?
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 1: He was mixed, like most of these, generally better than
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: most economics. But you know, the anti immigration and protas
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 1: stuff is really really really bad, all right. Andrews says
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: there's a connection between reason and honesty, honesty entail seeking
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  Speaker 1: the truth by reason. We can judge Tucker coos and
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: sopoority because he's been dishonest, in dishonest in choosing not
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 1: to employ enjoy reason. Thoughts, Yeah, I mean reason requires honesty.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: Honesty is about it's only the facts. Well, reason demands
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: only the facts. Reason demands reality. You face, you only
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: deal with what's true. Taka evades, he ignores he is.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: He is clearly dishonest by not being willing to look
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 1: at the facts and by presenting us with nonsense, with
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 1: you know, non factual bs. The the demon scratching him
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: is just a manifestation of that. But his whole motus
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 1: of perandi is subjectivism. There's no objectivity. He's not presenting
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 1: us with actual factsy He goes to Russia and shows
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: the Sagoci store, and it's so delimits the context so
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: as to evade the entire context and evades what's going on,
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 1: as to fool us into thinking that this is somehow
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: representative of something. So yes, dishonesty and reason, I mean
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 1: every virtue honestly, being one of them is just another
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: point of view on rationality, on what it means to
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: be rational. In this case, only the facts. That's what
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: honesty is and that's what reason requires. All Right, guys,
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 1: two and a half hours. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 1: You guys were very generous today, you know. Thank you,
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 1: Thank you Troy especially, I thank you Liam, Thank you
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: Do the Bunny. Thank you Michael as always. Thank you
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 1: Andrew for asking a lot of questions. Thank you, guys.
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 1: We will see you tomorrow for a news show. I'm
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: not exactly what time. I think my schedule is a
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: little missed up tomorrow, so it'll probably be in the evening,
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: but there will be a show tomorrow. To hang in there,
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 1: and there'll be a show Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Bye, everybody,
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 1: see soon, Yeah,