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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 226 | Jaguars' 2026 Rookie Minicamp Takeaways & Standouts · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the jag Zam today, brought to you by
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Speaker 1: public Ed had Nannie Stevens, Mark Doctor, and John Oser
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Speaker 1: are with me today. So we're gonna talk a little
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Speaker 1: bit about rookie mini camp that kicked off last week,
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Speaker 1: and of course the Offite's in program continues now with
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Speaker 1: everybody in house, as everybody can work together and start
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Speaker 1: getting ready for the season. Let's go over our big
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Speaker 1: thing today. Big Thing number one is gonna be as advertised.
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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen out there with his rookies, talked a little
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Speaker 1: bit about what he saw out of his second round
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Speaker 1: tight end.
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Speaker 2: You can tell he's got a common confidence about him,
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Speaker 2: extremely locked in in the meeting room setting. You know,
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Speaker 2: I knew some guys at Nebraska, and I've talked to
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Speaker 2: some guys at A and M, and you know in
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Speaker 2: the weight room, the way he attacks things, the way
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Speaker 2: that he works, very serious about his craft, very serious
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Speaker 2: about playing football and getting better. So I think he
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Speaker 2: fitts right in. And you know, guys like Strange and
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Speaker 2: those guys in that room already that have our workers
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Speaker 2: and wired that way I think will only help John.
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are surprised they went
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Speaker 1: with the tight end, but so far, Liam Cohen's pretty
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Speaker 1: excited about the second round pick they made.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the storyline sort of reminds you of what
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Speaker 3: two or three years ago when a guy named Brenton
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Speaker 3: Strange was drafted in the second round. No Jaguars fans
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Speaker 3: and you know, not many draft analysts knew much about him,
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Speaker 3: and from day one Brenton didn't play that much. Early
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Speaker 3: you could sort of tell he was an NFL tight
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Speaker 3: end and belonged. To me, this feels the same. I
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Speaker 3: think if Jaguar's had a first round pick, there'd be
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Speaker 3: a lot less focused on this second round pick. But look,
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Speaker 3: the whole idea of them bringing in tight ends revamping
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Speaker 3: that spot makes a lot of sense to me. I'm
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Speaker 3: not going to pretend to look at him on Saturday
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Speaker 3: and say he's going to be an all pro.
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Speaker 4: I don't know that.
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Speaker 3: Yet, but duff, he looks the part, and he looks
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Speaker 3: like he can do what they want him to do,
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Speaker 3: which is be sort of the balance to Strange.
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Speaker 4: Be able to block and be able to receive. That's
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Speaker 4: the key for this thing.
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Speaker 5: Hey, John, I was really impressed with him. I mean,
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Speaker 5: I liked his movement skills. I liked his length. I
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Speaker 5: mean he's a fluid athlete. He's not just a big
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Speaker 5: lumbering guy that can go down the field. I mean
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Speaker 5: the guy had shake about him, had fluid movement, as
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Speaker 5: I mentioned. And then other thing I liked about him
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Speaker 5: is both Nate and Tanner the other rookie tight end,
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Speaker 5: stayed out afterwards and caught balls and worked, and so
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Speaker 5: I was impressed with what I saw. I didn't know
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Speaker 5: that i'd see quite the athlete that I saw in
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Speaker 5: the field, and so impressed by.
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Speaker 1: That good first start for both tight ends. And our
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Speaker 1: second big thing today going to be group effort. Liam
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Speaker 1: Collen talked about the importance of rolling the rookies into
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Speaker 1: the off season program this week and having the veterans
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Speaker 1: teach the new guys.
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Speaker 2: We're all starting off so fresh at that time, and
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Speaker 2: you look at that was exactly what I mentioned to
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Speaker 2: the vets on Thursday with them, was, Man, when these
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Speaker 2: guys get in here on Monday and get integrated with
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Speaker 2: you all, I need you all to set the standards
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Speaker 2: and show these guys what our standards are of how
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Speaker 2: to operate in the meeting room settings and walk throughs
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Speaker 2: in practice because we need them. We need them to
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Speaker 2: come along as fast as possible. You saw it last
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Speaker 2: year with the amount of rookies that played for us
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Speaker 2: and made an impact and contribution. So yeah, they're competing
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Speaker 2: with each other for spots, but man, we need every
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Speaker 2: single guy duff.
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Speaker 1: This time last year, Liam Cohen was teaching staff and
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Speaker 1: players his system. Everybody was learning. But now that's their
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Speaker 1: second year. Round is a little bit easier because you
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Speaker 1: can kind of rely on some of the Vets to
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Speaker 1: help teach the.
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Speaker 5: Rookies, no question about it. And that's so valuable, so
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Speaker 5: valuable on the field, in the classroom, in the locker room,
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Speaker 5: even outside of the building in terms of things that
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Speaker 5: they want to get accomplished. So I think that the
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Speaker 5: Vets actually kind of looked for in some respects that
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Speaker 5: showing the way, much like they got shown when they
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Speaker 5: were rookies. And so I see that being a real
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Speaker 5: good mix right now, the veteran leadership the young guys
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Speaker 5: in learning how to beat jaguars, how to do things
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Speaker 5: a Jaguar way, if you will.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's particularly true if the Vets figure out that
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Speaker 3: a they're good kids and b that they're here for
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Speaker 3: the right reasons, meaning that they're going to fit in
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Speaker 3: my sense, the way these guys draft, most of these
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Speaker 3: guys will fit.
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Speaker 1: That.
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Speaker 3: To me, this is the It's the major story of
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Speaker 3: the off season, and it's not that sexy to talk about, meaning,
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Speaker 3: you know, how does culture, how do these guys fit in?
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Speaker 3: How does the year two thing really help the team?
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Speaker 3: I think it'll help them immeasurably next year. It's hard
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Speaker 3: on a show like this to hey, what did you
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Speaker 3: see different out there on Saturday that shows you that's happening.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's anything tangible. I think it's
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Speaker 3: going to run through the entire building and you know,
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Speaker 3: how this team is in year two. If it feels
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Speaker 3: like a program moving forward, if it's consistent, I think
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Speaker 3: we'll show a lot about where the franchise is for
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Speaker 3: the long haul next four or five years. Well.
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Speaker 5: Shoot, having the opportunity to watch that rookie mini camp
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Speaker 5: practice on Saturday, here's what I saw. I saw Crisp.
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Speaker 5: I saw organization. I saw the coaches doing you know,
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Speaker 5: moving and doing drills in a great, great way. That
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Speaker 5: didn't look like a team kind of just getting started.
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Speaker 5: It looked like they've been out there a while, and
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Speaker 5: this was just maybe their second practice I think on Saturday.
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Speaker 6: So I saw.
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Speaker 5: Crisp, upbeat, energetic practice going on with coaches and players alike.
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Speaker 5: Work and I love what I saw.
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Speaker 1: I can bring this into our final big thing today,
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Speaker 1: which is quick learners. We talked about that, bringing the
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Speaker 1: rookies into this program and getting them acclimated to this culture. John,
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Speaker 1: the players they picked this year, a lot of them
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Speaker 1: played significant amount of time in college football.
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Speaker 4: They're older players.
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Speaker 1: They're expecting them to get into the fold and get
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Speaker 1: ready to play right away.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll defer to death a little bit on this one,
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Speaker 3: because he's been around guys, we bring him in, I
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Speaker 3: would since and what I've been told over the years
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Speaker 3: age difference. I meaning, if you're a twenty four to
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Speaker 3: twenty five year old duff who have been all the
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Speaker 3: way through college, especially with these nil guys who've switched programs.
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Speaker 4: A little bit, you would think they would.
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Speaker 3: Know how to practice, how to be pros, how to prepare,
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Speaker 3: how to come into a situation and sort of be ready.
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Speaker 4: You know, you have to warm up the car very long, right, you.
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Speaker 5: Know, so many of the guys, as you said, are
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Speaker 5: already older. They've got more plane reps, they've got more
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Speaker 5: academic reps, if you will, and they've been to different programs.
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Speaker 5: They've had to adjust. They've come in and had to
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Speaker 5: deal with new coaches, new locker rooms, everything, new drills
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Speaker 5: and everything else. So I think the arrival and the
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Speaker 5: fit is going to be much cleaner, much much better.
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Speaker 5: And frankly, again, the selection of the players, the character,
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Speaker 5: the leadership that you see, the guys that were captains,
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Speaker 5: guys that were MVPs, guys that had lauded careers. All
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Speaker 5: this fits in to make the personality for it to
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Speaker 5: be a pretty smooth transit.
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Speaker 1: All right, say with Aaron Jagsa, I'm coming up after
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Speaker 1: the break, we'll hear from some of those new rookies
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Speaker 1: from Rocky Mini Campus last weekend.
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Speaker 7: I'm super excited. Mostly I've said it before. I'm just
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Speaker 7: ready to go learn from these guys, these older guys.
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Speaker 7: They have a lot of time in the NFL in
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Speaker 7: their belt, and I'm ready to go learn. Obviously, I'm
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Speaker 7: new to this, so I'm gonna just keep my ears open.
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Speaker 1: Snap Barkature, So he's excited to go learn from the
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Speaker 1: other Vets, but he did say it was a little
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Speaker 1: different practice atmosphere compared to Texas, A and M. The
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Speaker 1: humidity I think was getting to them early. They all
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Speaker 1: dealt with it fine. I just think it's funny when
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Speaker 1: everybody has their first practice and do all and they're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: it's different.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a couple of people we're talking about half
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Speaker 3: it wasn't as bad as this place and this place,
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Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, wow, it's not August yet, it's way
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Speaker 3: of August.
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Speaker 5: Let me tell you right now, it found a little
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Speaker 5: bit like ooks out there. I can tell you that
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Speaker 5: right now. I thought it was human as heck.
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Speaker 1: They don't do a ton stuff. We talked a little
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Speaker 1: bit about this since you know, probably ten fifteen years now.
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Speaker 1: They don't really get into it in regum any camp
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Speaker 1: just because they want to kind of get them back
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Speaker 1: in conditioning and whatnot.
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Speaker 4: But what did you see out there?
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Speaker 1: I know you said it was really clean looking, but
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Speaker 1: just from some of the tight ends wide receivers, felt
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Speaker 1: like there were some possibilities there.
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Speaker 5: Oh heck, yeah, I was impressed with I was watching
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Speaker 5: that group pretty explice, you know, exclusively, and I saw
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Speaker 5: all kinds of good drills. I saw a good movement.
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Speaker 5: In particular the two tight ends Tanner and Nate. I
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Speaker 5: saw guys that can go up and get the ball.
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Speaker 4: I saw length.
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Speaker 5: I said, when you consider the ability for them to
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Speaker 5: get up and go get balls contested balls, and they've
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Speaker 5: got the height advantage of the length advantage they got. Wow,
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Speaker 5: was impressive as heck. And I just liked again the
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Speaker 5: work ethic that they all saw. The coaches knew what
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Speaker 5: they were doing. It was well choreographed, if you will,
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Speaker 5: very productive. It was no standing around. I mean they
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Speaker 5: got a lot done during that practice, which I think,
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Speaker 5: I thought again was very impressive.
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Speaker 3: I thought it was significant that the tight ends and
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Speaker 3: the receivers too, but you expected from the receivers, made
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Speaker 3: catching and running routes look really easy. I guess it
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Speaker 3: is easy against air. Anybody watching this said, well it's nobody, Guarden.
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Speaker 3: Of course it's easy. But they looked the part. Again,
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Speaker 3: that's what you look for right now. You want guys
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Speaker 3: who you're not. I'm sure Duffin, at some point during
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Speaker 3: your career you walked off after a mini camp practice and.
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Speaker 4: Like told your buddy, I don't know about this. Yeah
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Speaker 4: you don't want that.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, and I didn't see that.
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Speaker 6: I didn't see that at all.
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Speaker 5: I mean, really, kudos to the players and coaches alike.
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Speaker 5: I mean, this thing was moving now. There was no
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Speaker 5: standing around, no taking time to instruct or to set
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Speaker 5: up drills. They were rolling. So the preparation for the practice,
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Speaker 5: the awareness I think the classroom worked that they had
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Speaker 5: prior to going in the field. They made every minute
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Speaker 5: of that practice count in terms of evaluation, in terms
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Speaker 5: of getting better, in terms of like you just shaid,
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Speaker 5: I mean, it looked like a mid season out there.
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Speaker 5: And so again a lot of great work by a
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Speaker 5: lot of people.
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Speaker 3: And I would think, I it'd be hard to quantify this,
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Speaker 3: but all the transferring with Nil, you do get a
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Speaker 3: vibe the last couple of years that college for a
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Speaker 3: long time has been professional, but that it really is professional.
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Speaker 3: Meaning when you go to a new place, when you're
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Speaker 3: in college, and some of these guys made three stops
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Speaker 3: in college, you learn pretty quickly, Oh, I've got to
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Speaker 3: hit the ground run and how do I learn? How
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Speaker 3: do I get up to speed quickly? Because you're sort
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Speaker 3: of a higher gun, if you will, in college, so
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Speaker 3: you've got to come in ready to go. There's not
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Speaker 3: as much time for this ramp up, and I would
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Speaker 3: think it. I think it's seven out of the ten
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Speaker 3: had been transfers out of this bunch, so that probably
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Speaker 3: serves them well. And I think around the league moving forward,
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Speaker 3: you'll probably see a lot more of an element of
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Speaker 3: that of these guys being more just pro ready because
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Speaker 3: they've already sort of been through that process before.
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Speaker 1: Another one of the people that played in multiple schools,
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Speaker 1: Jalen Husky, the safety, played at Bowling Green and transferred
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Speaker 1: up to Maryland, and uh, he talked to us yesterday
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Speaker 1: or on Saturday, excuse me a little bit about his
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Speaker 1: motivations when he takes the field.
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Speaker 6: Because I play with a chip on my shoulder. You know,
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Speaker 6: I feel like, uh, my entire life, I've been.
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Speaker 4: A little overlooked or a little.
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Speaker 6: Overshadowed, and and I I can show that I can
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Speaker 6: produce too. You know, at every single stop, I produced,
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Speaker 6: and it's not gonna stop because I'm in the NFL.
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Speaker 6: You know, I plan to come here and and be
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Speaker 6: a great football player.
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Speaker 1: John, you always want to find what people's motivations are.
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Speaker 1: And I think when people always feel like they have
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Speaker 1: something to prove, they put that extra effort out there.
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Speaker 4: Well, teams and glads. Stony has talked about this a
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Speaker 4: little bit.
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Speaker 3: They like, especially in this nil time, a guy who's
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Speaker 3: done this path meaning bling Green to start, which is
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Speaker 3: not Big ten and then Maryland to finish, which is
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Speaker 3: so they like when they see that production continue at
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Speaker 3: the next level. I also think safety it is a
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Speaker 3: position where uh young players. It's rarer at that position
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Speaker 3: to a second contract guy, so Antonio Johnson, Jalen Husky,
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Speaker 3: these guys, it is going to be a position when
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Speaker 3: you're in the salary position of the Jaguars that it's
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Speaker 3: going to be.
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Speaker 4: Usually first through fourth year guy.
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Speaker 3: You're not gonna seeing Eric Murray around here moving forward,
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Speaker 3: meaning a tenth year guy. So it's gonna be young
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Speaker 3: players playing key roles, and I expect it would be
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Speaker 3: it would be a position that very much cycles moving forward,
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Speaker 3: rather than having what we had last year, which was
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Speaker 3: Dewey and Eric both on the field at the same time.
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Speaker 1: He's also that some versatility. I know he played cornerback
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Speaker 1: and safety in college. Coach, do you like when you
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Speaker 1: kind of have that versatile player where you feel like
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Speaker 1: you can play the multiplaces. I think they'll help play safety,
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Speaker 1: but just having that versatile.
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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, guy, the value that he brings. You know,
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Speaker 5: this guy had over seven hundred snaps as a corner.
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Speaker 5: He had over one hundred snaps as a nickel, if
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Speaker 5: you will. And then the fact that he was a
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Speaker 5: ballhawk eleven interceptions, you know, in his career, had a
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Speaker 5: ton of them in high school as a corner and
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Speaker 5: as a player on defense. I mean, the versatility, that's
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Speaker 5: great value. You're getting a bang for your buck when
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Speaker 5: you've got a guy with this kind of experience. And
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Speaker 5: the other great thing about him. I thought the story
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Speaker 5: about he lost his sister. She passed away on February
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Speaker 5: I think twenty second, Yeah, twenty twenty two, And that's
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Speaker 5: why he's you know, dedicated wearing jersey number twenty two
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Speaker 5: in her memory. I saw a lot of real positive
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Speaker 5: things both in the character, not only the play and production,
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Speaker 5: but the character and the makeup of this player.
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Speaker 4: You can see why they like him.
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Speaker 3: You know, in the NFL these days, safeties can't be
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Speaker 3: linebackers anymore.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they have to go around, they have to be
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Speaker 4: able to cover.
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Speaker 3: In fact, he's played corner, but brings this element that
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Speaker 3: camp talked about defense corinator Anythony Camp and Elly during
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Speaker 3: the draft of being able to hit, having played corner
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Speaker 3: being a big hitter is a rare combination.
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Speaker 4: And you know, I'm looking forward seeing this kid play.
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Speaker 3: I think their safety position has quietly become a strength.
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Speaker 1: I just know Camp is excited to coach him, and
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what he hits out of him
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Speaker 1: as well.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: When you met with the first word out of his
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Speaker 5: mouth was hurt.
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Speaker 1: Hitter.
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Speaker 5: He's a hitter, yeah, you know. And the fact that
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Speaker 5: this guy is not afraid to get dirty and get
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Speaker 5: close to the box and make place again just adds
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Speaker 5: the value of the of the player.
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Speaker 1: We also got to speak to Emmanuel Pregnant, the guard
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Speaker 1: out of Oregon most recently, and he talked a little
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Speaker 1: bit about wanting to, you know, get in work with
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Speaker 1: some of the veterans and show them what he can
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Speaker 1: bring to the team.
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Speaker 8: I spoke to be honest, you know, to be with
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Speaker 8: those bits and and just learn from them. One of
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Speaker 8: my traits as a person is an honor and integrity.
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Speaker 8: So just coming in a room and being able to
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Speaker 8: get in with those guys that have played the game
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Speaker 8: for you know how uh so long. You know, all
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Speaker 8: those bets in there. I just want to be able
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Speaker 8: to learn to soak up everything I possibly can, so
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Speaker 8: I could become as great as they.
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Speaker 1: Are getting another really versatile player in there into the
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Speaker 1: line room. John. I know they're excited about him potentially
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Speaker 1: getting some playing time quickly.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I wouldn't even remotely pretend to
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Speaker 3: analyze an offensive lineman off of a padded practice, but
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Speaker 3: he the things he can't teach are s our size
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Speaker 3: and looking like an an offensive guard.
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Speaker 4: He has the size and he looks like an offensive guard.
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Speaker 3: So everybody after the draft believed that he's gonna be
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Speaker 3: a guy who pushed it out and if he starts this year,
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Speaker 3: but he's part of the offensive line in the future,
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Speaker 3: so we'll find out August second, and they put pads
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Speaker 3: on right.
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Speaker 5: No question about that, John. But this guy watched him
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Speaker 5: on tape, and this guy is a guy that can
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Speaker 5: knock people off the football. You know, we had a
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Speaker 5: chance to visit with him and we asked him, okay, well,
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Speaker 5: what's your favorite playing football? And the word he used
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Speaker 5: was duo right away came right out, Well, the duo
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Speaker 5: is a inline direct run where you're double team and
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Speaker 5: knocking people back into the linebacker's laps. And that's if
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Speaker 5: I'm a line coach, that's what I want to hear
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Speaker 5: this guy say. But I mean the versatility that he has,
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Speaker 5: the I mean, this guy is a great looking player.
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Speaker 5: I mean he's a three hundred and fifteen pound guy
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Speaker 5: that has no fat on him. I mean, I love
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Speaker 5: what I saw out of him, and I really like
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Speaker 5: to just as you both have said, his attitude of
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Speaker 5: the way he's anxious to learn. He's not coming in
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Speaker 5: here like he's mister big stuff, but he understands what
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Speaker 5: it's going to take. I think he's got all the
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Speaker 5: traits you want. I see this guy being in a
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Speaker 5: line pretty quickly, and.
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Speaker 3: We're seeing the as time goes on, you see what
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Speaker 3: the team wants to be. We talked a lot last
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Speaker 3: year about I thought the most overlooked part of this
16:54
Speaker 3: team last year was their toughness and how physical they were,
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Speaker 3: because I think because they were so good at the
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Speaker 3: end of the year and Trevor was getting MVP mentioned,
17:03
Speaker 3: all the focus was on offense.
17:05
Speaker 4: Trevor in the passing game.
17:09
Speaker 3: This team was really good at the end of last
17:11
Speaker 3: year because they were the toughest, most physical team on
17:13
Speaker 3: the field most of the time. I think the offensive line,
17:17
Speaker 3: the commitment drafting reagis drafting him, I mean drafting reachs
17:21
Speaker 3: in the defensive line, the.
17:22
Speaker 4: Commitment to that. I think you saw subtly in the
17:25
Speaker 4: draft this year.
17:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this guy brings so much. I really
17:29
Speaker 5: do you know when you also look at the fact
17:30
Speaker 5: that this guy, like I said, had the availability endurabuilding
17:34
Speaker 5: fifty three starts I think at three different programs ranked
17:38
Speaker 5: I think number two by Pro Football focuses in run blocking,
17:42
Speaker 5: but also in the top five and pass protection, four
17:45
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty pass snaps. I think one quarterback snap
17:48
Speaker 5: and maybe five pressures. I mean, so you're getting a
17:51
Speaker 5: guy I think we're gonna feel real quickly his impact
17:54
Speaker 5: on the offensive line very exciting.
17:56
Speaker 1: Stay with us here on Jagsam. We're going to go
17:58
Speaker 1: over a little this or that as we look ahead
18:00
Speaker 1: to what the roster might be at the end of
18:01
Speaker 1: the year. This over that, Welcome back into Jagsam. We're
18:15
Speaker 1: gonna do all this or that as we look at
18:17
Speaker 1: the roster and some of the undrafted free agents. Liam
18:20
Speaker 1: Cohen talking after rookie mini camp on Saturday. It was
18:23
Speaker 1: really excited with what he saw out of rookie running back.
18:26
Speaker 1: To Mary Taylor, the.
18:28
Speaker 2: Word you said production when you looked at him against
18:32
Speaker 2: some of the I guess you call it top backs
18:34
Speaker 2: in the draft production against the same teams. And what
18:38
Speaker 2: that looked like I thought was pretty impressive. Obviously, the
18:43
Speaker 2: season that Virginia had a lot of it had to
18:46
Speaker 2: do with his success and his ability to both affect
18:49
Speaker 2: the game in the run in the past game as well,
18:51
Speaker 2: so people just slipped, like bounce off of him in ways.
18:55
Speaker 2: I mean, he forced a lot of mistackles and he's
19:00
Speaker 2: super sharp.
19:02
Speaker 1: Seems they always confined a running back that they like
19:04
Speaker 1: some traits of we obviously going into last year they
19:06
Speaker 1: had with Quinn Allen Bachiltoton who they loved, and they
19:08
Speaker 1: ended up carrying four running backs going into the season
19:11
Speaker 1: with Tank Bigsby still on the roster and Travesy Tan
19:14
Speaker 1: as well. John, do you think they'll have four running
19:16
Speaker 1: backs again on the active roster? Do you think that
19:18
Speaker 1: might be might be a tough ask.
19:20
Speaker 3: Well, Y, you could see how that could be the
19:23
Speaker 3: position where they keep three up, because you're probably gonna
19:27
Speaker 3: have to keep a tight end one more tight end
19:31
Speaker 3: up than you usually did last year. Now, those are
19:33
Speaker 3: things we talk about in the off season and during
19:35
Speaker 3: the season. Those numbers can kind of bounce from week
19:37
Speaker 3: to week.
19:39
Speaker 4: But they clearly they have a way to carry four
19:43
Speaker 4: into the regular season. UH.
19:45
Speaker 3: I would think this year the uh Jamari Taylor would
19:47
Speaker 3: be the guy who probably starts out on the practice squad.
19:50
Speaker 3: UH and the twenty years ago, starting off the practice
19:54
Speaker 3: squad meant you probably were never gonna make in the NFL. Now,
19:57
Speaker 3: a guy like that starts out on the practice squad
19:59
Speaker 3: and it's much more of a developmental position where you
20:02
Speaker 3: could see him really mattering at some point during the season.
20:05
Speaker 3: I can see him being one of those guys who's
20:07
Speaker 3: practice squad to start and then by the end of
20:10
Speaker 3: the season is one of your thirds, especially if somebody
20:13
Speaker 3: gets hurt up front.
20:14
Speaker 5: Well, I agree with you, John, I just I think
20:17
Speaker 5: this was a great addition to the squad. I mean,
20:19
Speaker 5: when you see what this guy did in college and
20:21
Speaker 5: the impact he had at Virginia, I mean, in many
20:24
Speaker 5: many circles, a truly draftable player. When you can get
20:27
Speaker 5: a guy like this who had the impact he had
20:30
Speaker 5: on his collegiate program as an undrafted free agent, A
20:34
Speaker 5: great get and watching him just like we all said,
20:37
Speaker 5: I mean, I was really impressed with him. Again, we're
20:38
Speaker 5: not out there in pats, but moving skills, catching the football, cuts,
20:42
Speaker 5: change the direction, all plus by this guy. So I
20:45
Speaker 5: think he will have an impact, and I think he'll
20:47
Speaker 5: start off like you talked about, but I think we'll
20:49
Speaker 5: see this guy at some point being the roster.
20:51
Speaker 3: It was also not considered a well is considered one
20:54
Speaker 3: of the worst running back classes overall in the draft
20:58
Speaker 3: in a long time. So from what you read and heard,
21:01
Speaker 3: the position overall sort of got devalued where most teams
21:04
Speaker 3: were thinking we can get them anytime. So as a result,
21:09
Speaker 3: running beast can get pushed up. So there were more
21:11
Speaker 3: guys available, But I'm with Duff. He strikes he as
21:14
Speaker 3: a guy who could easily matter around here and contribute,
21:19
Speaker 3: certainly during that first three or four year rookie contract period.
21:24
Speaker 4: I wouldn't overlook him at all.
21:25
Speaker 1: Find self a spot. Maybe. We also got a look
21:28
Speaker 1: at Joey Aguilar, the quarterback formerly of Tennessee, and Liam
21:31
Speaker 1: Cohen talked about what he saw when he looked at
21:33
Speaker 1: Aguilar's tape.
21:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Joways did a nice job of learning
21:39
Speaker 2: a lot of information in a short period of time,
21:42
Speaker 2: especially so much different than he's used to right, just
21:47
Speaker 2: from a cadence standpoint, that's something that he's had to
21:50
Speaker 2: get used to doing over the last forty eight hours.
21:53
Speaker 2: I think you did a nice job of running the show,
21:55
Speaker 2: if you will, handling. I mean, these weren't all just
21:59
Speaker 2: call and run and play either, like we had cans
22:01
Speaker 2: and oscars in there. And I think he did a
22:03
Speaker 2: nice job operating. I thought he threw it better today probably.
22:07
Speaker 2: I mean he had never throw into these guys ever,
22:09
Speaker 2: so it's hard when you're asking them to be perfect
22:13
Speaker 2: and no balls on the ground and timing in rhythm.
22:15
Speaker 2: And I think it'll be fun to see him open
22:18
Speaker 2: it up a little bit with the guys next week.
22:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, both both of us.
22:22
Speaker 1: I think Agilar caught our eye. What were you most
22:24
Speaker 1: impressed was? Was what you saw on Saturday.
22:26
Speaker 5: I think a lot of what just coach just talked about.
22:28
Speaker 5: I mean I liked he was very confident. He's got
22:31
Speaker 5: good movement skills. Boy, he's put together six three about
22:34
Speaker 5: two twenty five. I liked how his footwork was. I
22:38
Speaker 5: watched him throw the deep ball. He looks like he
22:39
Speaker 5: can make all the throws.
22:41
Speaker 1: You know.
22:41
Speaker 5: Keep in mind too, he ran an offense last year
22:44
Speaker 5: at Tennessee that probably ran as many snaps, maybe more snaps,
22:47
Speaker 5: than anybody in the country, So he's understanding temple. He
22:50
Speaker 5: can make quick decisions, he can get that offense rolling.
22:53
Speaker 5: So I think again, another exciting addition, and see how
22:58
Speaker 5: he you know, winds up not only fitting in the
23:00
Speaker 5: quarterback room, but perhaps w working his way into being
23:04
Speaker 5: a backup.
23:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's Uh. I'd be surprised if this year
23:08
Speaker 3: if Nick Mallins is in the backup so because of experience.
23:11
Speaker 3: M uh, But I've been surprised before, so I I
23:14
Speaker 3: wouldn't rule it out. It It strikes me that over
23:19
Speaker 3: if Liam Cohen is a head coach in this year,
23:21
Speaker 3: in this league forever long, he wants to be h,
23:25
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll have any trouble getting this sort
23:28
Speaker 3: of guy, meaning a a young quarterback. They're going to
23:32
Speaker 3: want to go to where the offense is operating a
23:34
Speaker 3: high level, with a qualities play caller with a reputation
23:39
Speaker 3: for quarterbacks. So I'm sure, Uh, during underrafted free agency,
23:44
Speaker 3: uh when his agent was trying to figure out.
23:46
Speaker 4: Where to put this kid. M go play for this guy.
23:49
Speaker 4: No matter what happens, you're gonna get a chance to develop.
23:51
Speaker 4: And uh So I think it's a good situation for
23:53
Speaker 4: Joey Gogua.
23:54
Speaker 1: I think it's a good opportunity for him to if
23:56
Speaker 1: he ser he clearly has the UH traits. He's able
23:58
Speaker 1: to throw the football, he's smart with it. If he
24:00
Speaker 1: can learn the system, he has an opportunity to move
24:02
Speaker 1: up and then also maybe earn him self a starting
24:04
Speaker 1: job somewhere else as well.
24:05
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that all the way. And again,
24:07
Speaker 5: he just went from the UCLA system to the Tennessee system,
24:10
Speaker 5: So all that change and all that adjustment is all
24:13
Speaker 5: going to be a plus form, all right.
24:16
Speaker 1: We also heard from Cohen who talked a little bit
24:18
Speaker 1: about his first impressions of Emmanuel Pregnant.
24:21
Speaker 2: Large man, you just some of that you can't coach, right,
24:25
Speaker 2: and when you have big, strong hands and heavy hands
24:30
Speaker 2: as an interior offensive lineman, I think is super helpful
24:34
Speaker 2: to the cause, especially in past protection, to be able
24:37
Speaker 2: to snap things off and then when you are putting
24:40
Speaker 2: some one on one positions up front, being able to
24:43
Speaker 2: not just get stalemates, but potentially move that person the
24:47
Speaker 2: other direction.
24:50
Speaker 4: Big man.
24:51
Speaker 3: So sure, and I think what Liam was talking about
24:54
Speaker 3: there was really key to what they're still trying to
24:57
Speaker 3: get down the offensive line. This side of the line played
25:00
Speaker 3: well for the most part last year.
25:03
Speaker 4: They were coached well.
25:04
Speaker 3: I thought they overall were very consistent, but I don't
25:08
Speaker 3: think you could argue that they were the most dominant
25:12
Speaker 3: physical offensive line blast teams.
25:14
Speaker 4: Off the round. It's hard to do in this league.
25:16
Speaker 3: I'm not criticizing the line, but I do think they
25:18
Speaker 3: want to continue what Liam was talking about. Instead of
25:23
Speaker 3: some stalemates, maybe win some of those one on ones
25:25
Speaker 3: where you can. It's really hard in this day and
25:27
Speaker 3: age to have to drive people off the ball. It's
25:30
Speaker 3: a little bit of a missover, but they'd like to
25:32
Speaker 3: be able to do it better than they did last year,
25:33
Speaker 3: and be a little better in short yardage.
25:35
Speaker 5: No question about it. Not only in short yardage, but
25:38
Speaker 5: even in four minutes or wet it's got to have
25:41
Speaker 5: that's probably short yard but when we have to control
25:44
Speaker 5: the ball, we've got to get the one yard and
25:47
Speaker 5: everybody in the stadum knows we got to run. We
25:49
Speaker 5: do have to knock them off the ball, get some displacement.
25:52
Speaker 5: And again, as you mentioned, Kay big man, I mean, cheez,
25:55
Speaker 5: this is this guy you want to see coming off
25:56
Speaker 5: the bush. I mean, it's exactly what you're looking for.
25:59
Speaker 5: There's a big guy who's who's got power about him,
26:02
Speaker 5: who we mentioned earlier, durability. I like where his mindset
26:05
Speaker 5: is in terms of, you know, being a physical player.
26:08
Speaker 5: Everything that I think they're trying to shape and put
26:10
Speaker 5: together in terms of the line and the offense.
26:12
Speaker 4: This guy represents John.
26:14
Speaker 1: When you look at the O line this year, do
26:16
Speaker 1: you think Week one, the starting five is going to
26:17
Speaker 1: be the same or do you think it'll be different.
26:19
Speaker 3: I think I think whyatt Mylon has has a good
26:22
Speaker 3: chance to.
26:23
Speaker 4: Push Patrick McCarry.
26:26
Speaker 3: And when I say that, I think about how this
26:29
Speaker 3: group wanted to line up last year. The staff thinks
26:34
Speaker 3: that the offensive line really is eight or nine and
26:37
Speaker 3: they like having that Cole van Landon type that they
26:40
Speaker 3: can move all around.
26:41
Speaker 4: I think McCary fits that he can do that.
26:44
Speaker 3: Chuma can do that a little bit too, But I
26:47
Speaker 3: think Mylon, the third round guy last year, who is
26:51
Speaker 3: clearly a guy they think can start at the long term. Ideally,
26:55
Speaker 3: what you want is drafting second, third, fourth round lineman,
26:59
Speaker 3: letting them develop as needed depth for a year, and
27:05
Speaker 3: then starting when they're ready. That would be your ideal
27:08
Speaker 3: timeline for these guys. It'd be your ideal timeline for Pregnant.
27:12
Speaker 3: So I think I think Pregnant. I think we talked
27:15
Speaker 3: about it during the break. It seems like a guy
27:17
Speaker 3: who could be very, very ready and don't pull a
27:20
Speaker 3: Walley Pip on him.
27:22
Speaker 5: I just liked how you explain that in terms of,
27:24
Speaker 5: you know, the way this offensive line is put together.
27:27
Speaker 5: I was highly impressed last year in the versatility that
27:30
Speaker 5: they got with their players. They weren't just pigeonholed into
27:34
Speaker 5: one position. They got guys that have a multiple position
27:37
Speaker 5: flex if you will, position flex, and I like that mindset.
27:41
Speaker 5: I think that served him well. And I think this player,
27:43
Speaker 5: whether he plays left guard or right guard's gonna add
27:46
Speaker 5: to that a couple with the players coming back.
27:48
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28:24
Speaker 1: know John's excited about that. Any predictions for you today.
28:29
Speaker 4: Look I do.
28:31
Speaker 3: I've been as long enough to know that any schedule
28:33
Speaker 3: prediction always sounds great until the schedule comes out, and
28:38
Speaker 3: then it's probably the most unpredictable part of the NFL offseason.
28:43
Speaker 3: Everything's they're gonna get it. Everythinks they've got it. Then
28:45
Speaker 3: it comes out and it's it's completely off. So I
28:48
Speaker 3: think the things people are watching for obviously how many
28:51
Speaker 3: primetime games where you open and I think people are
28:53
Speaker 3: interested in in Uh, well, if they play on Thanksgiving
28:56
Speaker 3: this year, I mean that's a big deal for fans
28:58
Speaker 3: as team's never done it, you're playing at Dallas.
29:01
Speaker 4: I don't have any feel for whether they will get that.
29:04
Speaker 4: They didn't know this.
29:05
Speaker 3: Covering a team that plays on Thanksgiving is really cool
29:08
Speaker 3: because you get a short week going in and then
29:10
Speaker 3: you're done. So it's I've only done it once, but
29:14
Speaker 3: I enjoyed covering the game on Thanksgiving.
29:16
Speaker 1: I don't want to burst your bubble, but I think
29:17
Speaker 1: they already came out with the Thanksgiving We didn't get.
29:19
Speaker 4: It, okay, all right, I thought, So.
29:22
Speaker 1: You're safe and Sherry will have the day to celebrate.
29:24
Speaker 4: I'm bad, sorry about that.
29:26
Speaker 1: Cowboys Eagles, So that'll be a little more entertaining, I'm
29:29
Speaker 1: sure for the rivalry fans there. But we're going back
29:32
Speaker 1: to London. And then how quickly coached do you guys
29:34
Speaker 1: get with the schedule and start looking at stuff and
29:37
Speaker 1: how that plans out.
29:37
Speaker 5: As a coach right away, you know, we already know
29:40
Speaker 5: year to year who your opponents are going to be,
29:42
Speaker 5: but you don't know the order, and so you know,
29:45
Speaker 5: to do an intense study on team. You may play
29:48
Speaker 5: in December or in late November. You know, you're not
29:52
Speaker 5: quite as urgent to do that, but the team ship
29:54
Speaker 5: you can expose your staff, to expose your players to
29:57
Speaker 5: both in the OTAs and training camp. With the early
30:00
Speaker 5: sh chronological order, that's important. So uh, I was always
30:04
Speaker 5: couldn't wait to see it, you know, And so now
30:06
Speaker 5: we can really focus in Okay, we gotta study boom
30:09
Speaker 5: boom boom and get ready and impact start to input
30:12
Speaker 5: those plays, those thoughts, their strategy into our practice brand.
30:16
Speaker 1: Alright, we'll be back with you guys later this week,
30:18
Speaker 1: once we get that schedule to have a schedule analysis
30:20
Speaker 1: for you, and of course happy Hour and Thursday. I'm
30:22
Speaker 1: sure we'll talk about it as well, but we appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week on Jack's Am.