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Birds Weekly: Philadelphia Eagles "May Have Hit Rock Bottom In This Game" · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, we are up and running with the latest
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Speaker 1: edition of Birds Weekly, presented by the Inside the Birds
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Speaker 1: netword for Ray didn't drum our gun and Ray. You
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Speaker 1: know that old saying, when it rains, it pours, Well,
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Speaker 1: it is monsooning all over the Philadelphia Eagles. As of late,
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Speaker 1: we knew this would be a down and dirty type game.
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Speaker 1: A hard fought Chargers defense is very good. The Eagles
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Speaker 1: promised us that we will see some different things in
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Speaker 1: our offense, and we did. We saw some different formations,
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Speaker 1: we saw some different plays, but we didn't see enough.
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Speaker 1: Ray just didn't see enough. And I want to start
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Speaker 1: at the end before we get to the beginning and
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Speaker 1: go through this game. There's over two minutes and thirty
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Speaker 1: seconds left in this game. You're driving for at least
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Speaker 1: a tie, at least a tie. You get all the
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Speaker 1: way to the Charger's seventeen yard line, you have a
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Speaker 1: first and ten, and what do you do. You have
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Speaker 1: your quarterback roll to his right and throw an off
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Speaker 1: balanced pass to the wrong guy. You had Dallas Goddard
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Speaker 1: in the underneath route. Oh no, you go to Johann
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Speaker 1: Dodson in the corridor and sand was then between two
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Speaker 1: guys and lower behall heart, bast the ball up. Next
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Speaker 1: guy picks it off. Good night, game over. Why Ray,
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Speaker 1: why would you not run the ball at least to
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Speaker 1: kill some more time on the clock and get a
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Speaker 1: little bit closer and then maybe just maybe take a
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Speaker 1: couple of shots at the end zone. For the life
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Speaker 1: of me, Ray, explain this to me. Please.
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Speaker 2: I wish I could. I wish I could. I was
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Speaker 2: thinking the same thing as you, as I think most
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Speaker 2: people were. It didn't make a lot of sense. I mean,
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Speaker 2: maybe maybe giving the Eagles coaches the benefit of the doubt,
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Speaker 2: they're thinking, well, that's what they expect, so we're going
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Speaker 2: to do something else, even if it's a bad idea. No,
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Speaker 2: there was a lot of stuff that happened in that
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Speaker 2: game that you and I could talk about until Friday
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Speaker 2: and probably and probably still not cover at all. When
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Speaker 2: you said when you started off here saying that the
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Speaker 2: Eagles promised that to show us some different things, and
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Speaker 2: they did. Yeah, in terms of formation, a little bit
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Speaker 2: of motion some of those things. Yeah, that was different.
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Speaker 2: But the thing that was really different was the eagles
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Speaker 2: inability to protect the football. I mean that that had
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Speaker 2: been the one constant throughout the season in terms of
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Speaker 2: the offense. I mean you could criticize, you know, everybody
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Speaker 2: was complaining about the three and out, someverybody's complaining about
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Speaker 2: the hot and cold passing game. I mean, there's a
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Speaker 2: lot you could point to in the offense that you
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Speaker 2: found fault with. But we always kept coming back to yes, yes, yes,
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Speaker 2: but they don't turn the ball over really well in
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Speaker 2: this game. That's all they did was turned the ball over.
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Speaker 2: And you know what, what can you say about the defense?
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Speaker 2: I mean, the defense that really got beat up in
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Speaker 2: the Chicago game bounced back and played really well in
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Speaker 2: this one. I mean you just think about this, Derek,
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Speaker 2: that your offense turned the ball over five times and
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Speaker 2: yet you still got the game to overtime. Now that
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Speaker 2: means that your defense played their butts off. This team
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Speaker 2: turns the offense turns it over five times, and you
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Speaker 2: still get into overtime where they turn it over yet
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Speaker 2: one more time and cause your game. But that your
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Speaker 2: defense even got you to overtime tells you that they
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Speaker 2: more than did their share. But the offense, oh my goodness.
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Speaker 2: I mean we're talking about the offense and their shortcomings
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Speaker 2: and all their woes weekend and week out. But they
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Speaker 2: may have hit rock bottom in this game. I just
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Speaker 2: don't know if there's any lower you can go than
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Speaker 2: what they showed us on Monday night.
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Speaker 1: First play out of the gate, they go up top
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Speaker 1: and deep to AJ. You catch the Chargers defense off
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Speaker 1: guard a little bit, it's right there, and AJ drops it.
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Speaker 1: The one guy who has complained much of this season
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Speaker 1: about the stagnant offense, about him not being involved enough
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Speaker 1: in the offense, Well, the last couple of games he
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Speaker 1: was involved in the offense. And oh, by the way,
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Speaker 1: both games he had over one hundred yards receiving and
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Speaker 1: they lost both games. So right out of the gate,
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Speaker 1: he go up top to him Ray he drops the ball. Now,
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Speaker 1: when you look at the slow mo replay, was right
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Speaker 1: there in his fingertips. You got to give up the
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Speaker 1: body that ball. You're six two two twenty. You got
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Speaker 1: to make that catch. Man, There's no excuse for not
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Speaker 1: making that catch. I don't know, And I will say
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Speaker 1: this though he's stood up and took ownership after the game.
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Speaker 1: But still, when you've talked as much as he has
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Speaker 1: this season and caused some unwarranted maybe in house tensions.
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Speaker 2: You gotta rise.
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Speaker 1: You gotta rise up in a moment like that, because
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Speaker 1: that could have been a defining play the game, the
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Speaker 1: first play of the game could have been a defining
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Speaker 1: play of the game, and you miss it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking the same thing that that. If
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Speaker 2: you hit that play to start the game, who knows.
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Speaker 2: I mean maybe the everything, maybe everything that follows is different.
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Speaker 2: But it was off his fingertips. It was there, and
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Speaker 2: it was an opportunity to get your team off to
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Speaker 2: a great start and falls away. The other one was
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Speaker 2: the ball, maybe the best ball that hurts through all
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Speaker 2: night was one in the end zone that I mean,
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Speaker 2: he he really drops it right there in the basket.
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Speaker 2: I mean it's right there, and I know the defender
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Speaker 2: gets his arm in there and they're fighting for it
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Speaker 2: a little bit. So I'm not going to say it
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Speaker 2: was an easy catch, but it's certainly a catch that
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Speaker 2: we've seen aj Brown mate a lot of times. And
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Speaker 2: there it was, I mean, on a on a bad,
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Speaker 2: bad night, maybe maybe as bad a night as we've
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Speaker 2: seen Jalen Hurts have in his entire pro career. He
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Speaker 2: threw you a perfect ball right there and a chance
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Speaker 2: to get out of there with a big win uh
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Speaker 2: and AJ sees it slip right through his arms, and
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Speaker 2: you know you said it. I mean, all this season
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Speaker 2: there's been the narrative about AJ and his unhappiness with
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Speaker 2: he's not a big enough part of the offense. He
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Speaker 2: needs to get more opportunities. He could be the difference maker.
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Speaker 2: He could get this offense back on track. All they
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Speaker 2: need to do is get him the ball more. Well,
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Speaker 2: three straight games now, he's been over one hundred yards
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Speaker 2: and you lost all three games. So that's kind of
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Speaker 2: where you are. I mean, it seems like there's no
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Speaker 2: there's nothing good happening on that side of the ball
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Speaker 2: right now. And you know, I look at the last
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Speaker 2: two games, and I mean it's kind of the story
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Speaker 2: of this season is summed up in little moments, And
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Speaker 2: in each of the last two games, there's a moment
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Speaker 2: in there that is an opportunity for the Eagles to
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Speaker 2: turn a game around and actually turn the loss into
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Speaker 2: a win. Chicago game, it's after the Jalx Hunt intercept
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Speaker 2: the screen pass. The Eagles get the ball, Barkley runs
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Speaker 2: a couple of good runs, they get down deep, they
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Speaker 2: go for the they go for the toush push hurts
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Speaker 2: get sacked, Hurts gets the ball ripped out of his hands,
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Speaker 2: Bears get it, take it down and score into games over.
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Speaker 2: But you had a feeling in that moment after the interception,
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Speaker 2: a couple of good plays, you're in position you're going
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Speaker 2: to toush, push it, score, take the lead for the
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Speaker 2: first time, and you get the filling. At that point,
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Speaker 2: the Eagles are just about to take control of the
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Speaker 2: game and they lose it. And in this game, it
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Speaker 2: was when they get down to the two yard line
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Speaker 2: and it looks like they're going to go in and
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Speaker 2: they decide to throw the ball and you know it's
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Speaker 2: touchdown what looks like a touchdown pass to j Brown,
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Speaker 2: but my lot has called for holding. Then they go
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Speaker 2: back and they throw two more incomplete passes. They settle
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Speaker 2: for a field goal. Again, another opportunity for the Eagles
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Speaker 2: sitting right there to score, take control of the game,
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Speaker 2: and they lose it. And that's the story of this season,
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean last year, in each of those
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Speaker 2: spots when the game is in the balance and they
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Speaker 2: needed to make a play, they made it. And it
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Speaker 2: seems like this year they get in the same position
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Speaker 2: and they can't close the deal. And that's why now
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Speaker 2: they are where they are, I mean, eight and five,
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Speaker 2: but gasping for air. And I mean you can say
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Speaker 2: all you want about well, they got an easier schedule
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Speaker 2: coming up, and they got easier games, and they're going
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Speaker 2: to get in the playoffs. But the way they're playing
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Speaker 2: right now, does anybody really care about that? I mean,
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Speaker 2: the way they're playing right now, do they have a
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Speaker 2: chance to win a playoff game, even at home? I
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Speaker 2: would say probably not.
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Speaker 1: You know, I've even heard people the day after the
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Speaker 1: game on sports talk radio talking about they don't want
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Speaker 1: to even see the Eagles get into the playoffs. In
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Speaker 1: all my years I've been here in Philadelphia, I've never
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Speaker 1: heard that before. That's how disgusted this fan base is
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Speaker 1: with this offense. And I specifically say the offense, because
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Speaker 1: the defense, you know, redeemed itself from the previous two
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Speaker 1: games they bawled out. I mean, they knew going into
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Speaker 1: this game. Big Fangio knew going into this game that
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Speaker 1: the Chargers had a porous offensive line. They were missing
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Speaker 1: both of their starting tackles out for the season. On
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Speaker 1: the first play, they lost another offensive lineman and they
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Speaker 1: just pinned their ears back and kept coming after Justin
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Speaker 1: Herbert all night and they got seven official sacks with men.
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Speaker 1: How many hits did they get on Herbert? Every time
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Speaker 1: you turned around when he stepped back to pass, if
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Speaker 1: he didn't step up and take off, he was getting
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Speaker 1: knockdowns like that Weba wobble. You knock him down and
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Speaker 1: he kept getting back up. So you know, you can't
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Speaker 1: blame any of this on the defense. As far as
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Speaker 1: the offense, I mean, let's start where the biggest problem lies.
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Speaker 1: This quarterback has regressed over the last three weeks, and
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Speaker 1: you're right, I think this. You know, last week I
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Speaker 1: said that it might have been his worst game of
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Speaker 1: the season. But I agree with you one hundred percent
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Speaker 1: when you said a moment ago, this may have been
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Speaker 1: the worst game of his career in a lot of ways.
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Speaker 1: He throws an interception right to a defensive tackle to
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Speaker 1: drop back in coverage. How do you not see a
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Speaker 1: person that big standing in the middle of the field,
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Speaker 1: you know, And then on top of that, he fumbles,
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Speaker 1: Jalen picks it up, he gets the ball knocked out
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Speaker 1: of his hands, and the Chargers get the ball back ray.
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Speaker 1: In all my years of covering football and watching football.
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Speaker 1: I've never seen a quarterback commit two turnovers on one place. Now,
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Speaker 1: the official stats stay. The last time it happened that
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Speaker 1: a player turned the ball over twice a one play
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Speaker 1: was all the way back in nineteen seventy eight. But
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Speaker 1: if you're in the quarterback and you get your hands
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Speaker 1: on the ball, you got to drop to the ground. Man,
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Speaker 1: hit the ground like a grenade's coming in. What are
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Speaker 1: you doing standing up knocking around like you're trying to
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Speaker 1: make a move with the ball? Ray to me, he
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Speaker 1: appears to be lost at this stage of the season.
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Speaker 1: He appears to be lost.
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Speaker 2: It certainly looked like that Monday night. It certainly looked
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Speaker 2: like that Monday night. There was there were so many
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Speaker 2: moments there where he just well, the one thing. And
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Speaker 2: I already mentioned it before, but it bears repeating. I
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Speaker 2: mean the one thing. Even though Hurts had not had
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Speaker 2: a good year at all. I mean his defenders, of
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Speaker 2: which I was one. All along, we're saying, well, he's
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Speaker 2: not turning the ball over for you know, he's not
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Speaker 2: making the big mistakes. Uh, he's not getting you know,
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Speaker 2: he's not getting you beat. That's how you're winning these games,
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Speaker 2: is you're winning the giveaway takeaway, because quarterback isn't making
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Speaker 2: those kinds of mistakes. Well he made, you know, he
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Speaker 2: made a bunch of them in this game. And some
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Speaker 2: of the some of his some of the I don't
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Speaker 2: want to say bad habits, but I guess I can't.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how else I would describe him some
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Speaker 2: of the some of the bad habits, some of the
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Speaker 2: flaws in his game really were very much in evidence
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Speaker 2: in this game. I mean just the just late getting
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Speaker 2: the ball out, and I mean it's just I mean,
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Speaker 2: you see that from during the games, and you're and
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Speaker 2: you're just come on, get rid of it, you know,
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Speaker 2: get rid of it. And and at least two of
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Speaker 2: the interceptions were a direct result of that. It's just
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Speaker 2: it's just late throwing the ball. I mean the one
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Speaker 2: the one hook that he's trying to throw to DeVante Smith,
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Speaker 2: a little hitch route at when when Smith makes the turn,
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Speaker 2: he's open, but the ball is so late getting there
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Speaker 2: that the corner has the corner sitting on it and
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Speaker 2: he has time to come in get in front of
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Speaker 2: Smith to make the interception. The ball's thrown on time,
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Speaker 2: it's probably a completion, and instead it turns into a turnover.
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Speaker 2: It was just it was just that kind of night.
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Speaker 2: And you're right. I mean the player he throws the
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Speaker 2: interception to the defensive the nose tackle. I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: that's one of those sort of inverted zone blitz kinds
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Speaker 2: of things. You know, where the pressure's coming from. Here
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Speaker 2: you're sending guys from the secondary and the defensive linemen
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Speaker 2: are dropping. It's I mean, how did you not see?
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Speaker 2: And then the defenders is right in your line of site.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's those are the kind of things that
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Speaker 2: I mean. Heck a a rookie free agency is that?
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Speaker 2: I mean, how does he not see that? It was
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Speaker 2: and it just it was just a nightmarish game for him.
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Speaker 2: And it's been that kind of a season. This was
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Speaker 2: the worst of it, obviously, but it's been it's been
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Speaker 2: building to this and now the question is, you know,
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Speaker 2: where do you go from here?
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 2: I know, and you were listening to some talk radio today,
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Speaker 2: I was too. I was in the car, so I
16:54
Speaker 2: was driving and I was listening, and I knew we
16:57
Speaker 2: were going to hear this. I knew we were going
16:59
Speaker 2: to hear Benjamin played Nicky. You know, it's get him
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Speaker 2: out of there and put Tanner McKee in. Uh And
17:10
Speaker 2: come on, I mean that's that that ain't happening, okay.
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Speaker 2: I mean there is no way, there is no way
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Speaker 2: that Nick Sirianni would do that. I mean, you don't
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Speaker 2: bench the Super Bowl MVP for a guy who's played
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Speaker 2: one NFL game. I mean that just that just doesn't happen. Uh.
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Speaker 2: And and I wouldn't advocate it happening. I mean, you
17:36
Speaker 2: got to go with this guy. But the point is,
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Speaker 2: somewhere here the coaches have to have to work out
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Speaker 2: the problems that he's got in his game because right now,
17:46
Speaker 2: well in this game, for sure, they're killing you.
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Speaker 1: Is it too late to fix what's broken with him?
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Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about how late we are
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Speaker 1: in the season, I don't know if there's a way
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Speaker 1: to fix him right in a lot of ways, you know,
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Speaker 1: I remember him saying this offense is going to be
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Speaker 1: run how Jalen wants it to be run? You know,
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Speaker 1: I remember him making a quote like that. You know,
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Speaker 1: we've talked throughout the season about players disgruntled with the
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Speaker 1: way the offense is being run. We've talked extensively about
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Speaker 1: this lack of running game, which finally found some footing
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Speaker 1: in this game against the Chargers, but not sustained enough
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Speaker 1: to get him over the hump. But the passing game, right,
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Speaker 1: he's over his last what five games, He's completing like
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Speaker 1: fifty seven percent of his passes. Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 1: Can he be salvaged at this point of a season.
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Speaker 2: For a good question? I don't know. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, are some things that you could do? I've
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Speaker 2: one of the things that I thought that I thought
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Speaker 2: Troy Aikman in broadcasting the game without without being critical,
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Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't being critical of herts, but was
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Speaker 2: being very analytical of herts. He wasn't saying he's playing terrible,
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Speaker 2: or he's killing his team, or he's taking away their
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Speaker 2: chance to win. Yeah, I mean, he didn't go there,
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Speaker 2: but I thought at half a dozen or so specific
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Speaker 2: points in the game, put his finger right on the problem.
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Speaker 2: You know, there's there are people open down there. You
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Speaker 2: know there are people open on this route, you know,
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Speaker 2: and he's just not seeing them right now. And it's
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Speaker 2: the same thing that we've been saying all year. Uh
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Speaker 2: And and Aikman, I thought, pointed it out a lot
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Speaker 2: and said, you know, there are opportunities here for plays
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Speaker 2: in the passing game. There are opportunities here for him
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Speaker 2: to There are open receivers out there. You know, he
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Speaker 2: just doesn't seem to be finding him. He just doesn't
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Speaker 2: seem to be seeing them right now. And that's been
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Speaker 2: what Philadelphia fans who have actually been paying attention have
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Speaker 2: been saying all year. And Aikman pointed it out multiple
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Speaker 2: times the other night, and it was true. I mean,
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Speaker 2: there were some balls that he was throwing, in some
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Speaker 2: cases trying to get the ball to aj maybe for
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Speaker 2: the right reasons, maybe not, but there were easier throws
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Speaker 2: to be made to other receivers who are barklay sometimes
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Speaker 2: coming out of the backfield, and the flat was there,
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Speaker 2: Goddard appeared, Goddard was open all night. I mean, you
20:42
Speaker 2: could have gotten the ball to him almost any time
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Speaker 2: you wanted to, and you did. And that has been
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Speaker 2: a recurring problem with Jalen this year. Is and this
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Speaker 2: has led to some of the grumbling about him that
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Speaker 2: you were talking about within the organizations. What's he looking at?
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Speaker 2: You know, at this point in his career, he shouldn't
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Speaker 2: be doing that. I mean, he should be. He should
21:07
Speaker 2: be seeing the field a lot more clearly than he
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Speaker 2: is right now. Now we know he's been he's capable
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Speaker 2: of it, We've seen him do it. And some of
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Speaker 2: it you put on him, but you also have to
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Speaker 2: put a lot of it on the coaches. I mean
21:23
Speaker 2: you he shouldn't be this lost this point in the season.
21:27
Speaker 2: He shouldn't. But and this opening the door to another
21:31
Speaker 2: part of our conversation is I don't want to I
21:36
Speaker 2: don't want to beat the play calling thing because I've
21:39
Speaker 2: been beating it to death all year. But I thought
21:42
Speaker 2: this was another case where I mean, this was one
21:45
Speaker 2: game where it appeared it appeared that you you were
21:49
Speaker 2: starting to get your running game on track a little bit.
21:52
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought the Eagles ran the game, ran
21:54
Speaker 2: the ball pretty good in this game, and there were
21:57
Speaker 2: some stretches here where I thought Barkley ran the ball
21:59
Speaker 2: quite well, not just the one fake push push play,
22:02
Speaker 2: but other plays where the running games seem to be
22:05
Speaker 2: getting some traction. How in the world you get that
22:09
Speaker 2: far away from it in the fourth quarter of a
22:12
Speaker 2: close game, on a night when your quarterback is having
22:16
Speaker 2: a horrible game, when your quarterback is playing terrible, It's
22:20
Speaker 2: a close game, still certainly winnable, starting to get a
22:25
Speaker 2: little something going in the running game, and then from
22:29
Speaker 2: the point where Barkley breaks off his touchdown run, he
22:32
Speaker 2: only gets five more carries the rest of the game. Unbelievable.
22:35
Speaker 2: I mean, how does that happen?
22:40
Speaker 1: I RT better better men have tried to figure out
22:45
Speaker 1: what this offense is, what it isn't, and everybody comes
22:49
Speaker 1: up with inconclusive, you know, conclusions about about this offense.
22:54
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand Lane Johnson is not there. Landon
23:00
Speaker 1: Dickerson is in and out. He has beat up, you know,
23:03
Speaker 1: to a pulp baby basically every game he's limping to
23:06
Speaker 1: the sideline and tries to come back in Cam Jurgens
23:10
Speaker 1: is not one hundred percent. But even with that said,
23:14
Speaker 1: there have been plays after plays after plays that have
23:17
Speaker 1: been there for the making, and they have missed on
23:20
Speaker 1: these plays. And again it goes back to the quarterback,
23:24
Speaker 1: and I don't want to see him ever again throwing
23:26
Speaker 1: forty passes in a game. Now we understand why he
23:31
Speaker 1: was reduced to basically twenty twenty two passes a game
23:34
Speaker 1: when the Eagles hit that stretch run after their by
23:37
Speaker 1: breaking twenty twenty four, when they just started just freight
23:41
Speaker 1: training people in the running game, and earlier in this season,
23:44
Speaker 1: they basically limited his his passing in a lot of ways.
23:50
Speaker 1: But to see him throw the ball forty times and
23:52
Speaker 1: we see the results that we see now, I understand
23:55
Speaker 1: why they don't want him putting the ball up thirty
23:58
Speaker 1: five forty times a game, and with a life of
24:00
Speaker 1: me rate, he's still a young man. I don't understand
24:04
Speaker 1: why he's not utilizing his legs more. Four carries for
24:07
Speaker 1: eight yards. Two of those were designed runs, the other
24:10
Speaker 1: two was scrambles. And you look at the other quarterback,
24:13
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, who's a bigger target at six', five you,
24:18
Speaker 1: know two hundred and thirty something past playing with a,
24:20
Speaker 1: oh by the, way a broken. Hand Now i'm throwing,
24:23
Speaker 1: hand and he's running ten times for sixty six, yards
24:27
Speaker 1: and his running helped define The chargers having, success limited,
24:33
Speaker 1: success but enough success to get the job. DONE i
24:36
Speaker 1: don't understand Why Jalen hurts is not utilizing his legs
24:40
Speaker 1: more in the running game to offset some of the
24:44
Speaker 1: pressure he's been getting from pass rushers in the passing.
24:47
Speaker 2: Game, yeah a couple times over this. Stretch now when
24:53
Speaker 2: he has run a designed, Run i'm not talking about
24:57
Speaker 2: a scramble, run but a scripted. Run you've seen. It
25:01
Speaker 2: it can be pretty, effective AND i think for him
25:05
Speaker 2: to be as effective as he has been over, time
25:09
Speaker 2: that has to be part of the. Game, again nobody
25:12
Speaker 2: suggesting that he run it fifteen sixteen, times but certainly
25:17
Speaker 2: more than he has this, year because it's an important
25:20
Speaker 2: part of who he is and how he. Plays and
25:23
Speaker 2: it was really you couldn't. Help you couldn't help look
25:29
Speaker 2: at the difference between the two quarterbacks in this. Game
25:32
Speaker 2: when you Have, hurtz who's a guy who has over
25:36
Speaker 2: the course of the last four or five, years you,
25:39
Speaker 2: know next To Lamar, jackson maybe been the best running
25:42
Speaker 2: quarterback in the, league basically taking that out of his game,
25:47
Speaker 2: entirely and playing in a game Against Justin, herbert a bigger.
25:52
Speaker 2: Guy no one's idea of a scrambler playing with a broken,
25:56
Speaker 2: hand making very big plays in the running game and
26:01
Speaker 2: and having a great impact on the. GAME i mean
26:03
Speaker 2: there were there were times that that they were that
26:07
Speaker 2: they were running rpo, stuff uh and to great. EFFECT
26:12
Speaker 2: i mean he would take he would fake a, hint
26:13
Speaker 2: he would draw the, ball fake a hand, off take,
26:16
Speaker 2: it and when The eagles would collapse on the, run
26:20
Speaker 2: he would take it up the you know around the
26:23
Speaker 2: end for first down, YARDAGE i, mean sixty six yards
26:27
Speaker 2: is not is not. NOTHING i mean that and and
26:30
Speaker 2: some big first downs in key. SPOTS i mean that's
26:33
Speaker 2: the kind of stuff that you kneed your quarterback to.
26:35
Speaker 2: Do And i'm sure The chargers nobody was anxious to
26:40
Speaker 2: have him doing, that playing with one, hand but he
26:42
Speaker 2: did it and helped you win the. GAME i mean
26:46
Speaker 2: that's that's part of. It and it just it just
26:50
Speaker 2: gets back to something that you've, Said i've, said we've
26:53
Speaker 2: all said to the point of. Nauseum the only thing
26:57
Speaker 2: you can say is this offense just appears broken in
27:00
Speaker 2: in every. Respect the offensive line isn't is the offensive
27:03
Speaker 2: line isn't doing what it did last. Year the offensive
27:06
Speaker 2: line is having all kinds of problems because of. Injury,
27:08
Speaker 2: mostly the running game has been largely non, existent. Ineffective
27:16
Speaker 2: they're leading the league in three. ANNOUNCED i, mean that
27:18
Speaker 2: speaks to exactly what the problem is all of these.
27:22
Speaker 2: Things but the other, night there's no question where it
27:28
Speaker 2: all really broke down was with the, quarterback because not
27:31
Speaker 2: only was he having trouble completing, passes but for the
27:34
Speaker 2: first time this, year he was killing you with. Turnovers and,
27:39
Speaker 2: SO i, mean you look at, this you look at the,
27:41
Speaker 2: standings you, say they're eight and, five they still are
27:44
Speaker 2: leading their, division, YadA, YadA. YadA we've been saying that every.
27:48
Speaker 2: Week but the reality is you watch the game and
27:51
Speaker 2: you look at the tape and you just see this
27:54
Speaker 2: is a team that IS i think when to go
27:58
Speaker 2: to the playoffs yet probably do they really have a
28:01
Speaker 2: realistic chance to do anything once they get. THERE i
28:04
Speaker 2: hate to say, it but right now the way they're
28:06
Speaker 2: playing probably. Not, hey It's Jeff.
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Speaker 1: Safe you know you mentioned it a while ago about
29:32
Speaker 1: the public cry now to maybe Play tanner, McKee but
29:37
Speaker 1: what type of message would you be sending to the
29:39
Speaker 1: rest of the guys on this team who are fighting
29:42
Speaker 1: tooth and. Nail the defense is fighting tooth and, nail
29:45
Speaker 1: the offense is fighting tooth and. Nail but continue to
29:47
Speaker 1: make the boneheaded, plays the off size, penalties the holding,
29:51
Speaker 1: penalties so on and so. Forth you're still in the
29:53
Speaker 1: driver's seat in your, division although by, losing you've Allowed
29:58
Speaker 1: dallas to close the gap even though lost their last.
30:01
Speaker 1: Game you, know what kind of, decision what kind of
30:05
Speaker 1: decision is that to even consider putting in tanamckey at
30:10
Speaker 1: this point of a, season because to, me if you did,
30:12
Speaker 1: that basically you're telling your team that we're giving up
30:15
Speaker 1: on this. Season you, know some people, say, well you know,
30:18
Speaker 1: what maybe it will spark. Them do you want to
30:21
Speaker 1: take that? Chance because of it backfires on you and
30:23
Speaker 1: you lose another game And dallas wins another. Game all
30:27
Speaker 1: of a, sudden you're sweating profusely now because The cowboys
30:30
Speaker 1: are sitting on your shoulder now instead of being in
30:33
Speaker 1: a rearview. MIRROR i, MEAN i understand people's, frustrations but
30:37
Speaker 1: that's not a logical. Choice and how do you justify
30:40
Speaker 1: sitting a fifty million dollars a year franchise quarterback at
30:44
Speaker 1: the most crucial point of a, season even though things
30:46
Speaker 1: are going bad for.
30:47
Speaker 2: Him, yeah you. Can't you. CAN'T i, mean that's, just you,
30:52
Speaker 2: know that's JUST i, mean it's great fodder for talk, radio,
30:55
Speaker 2: sure but it makes no sense that you would bench
31:00
Speaker 2: your starting, quarterback your veteran, quarterback the guy who was
31:04
Speaker 2: THE mvp in The Super bowl In. February they're going
31:07
Speaker 2: to sit him for a quarterback who's totally. Unproven, now,
31:11
Speaker 2: Look I'm i'm NOT i don't want to make this
31:14
Speaker 2: sound LIKE i don't think That Taylor tanner McKee has
31:17
Speaker 2: a chance to ever be a player in THE. Nfl
31:19
Speaker 2: maybe he. Does, Uh and to his, credit every time
31:23
Speaker 2: he's had a chance to, play he's played. WELL i
31:26
Speaker 2: mean to the point where you're you're comfortable with him
31:30
Speaker 2: as you're number. Two you think he has a long range. Future,
31:33
Speaker 2: yeah maybe he, Does but this isn't the time of the,
31:36
Speaker 2: place you, KNOW i, mean for better or, worse you
31:40
Speaker 2: got you have the wagon. Strap the jalen hurts right. Now,
31:44
Speaker 2: uh and you just got to find a way and
31:47
Speaker 2: he's got to find a way to play better. Now you,
31:51
Speaker 2: know this week you got the The Vegas raiders coming
31:55
Speaker 2: in here and they they are just a wreck of
32:00
Speaker 2: a football team right. Now and there's a part of
32:05
Speaker 2: me that, says there's no way that The eagles can
32:09
Speaker 2: lose at home to this. Team, however AND i know
32:15
Speaker 2: you're thinking What i'm. Thinking if you want to just
32:19
Speaker 2: go back to the twenty twenty three the comparison everybody
32:22
Speaker 2: has been making two years ago when this team completely
32:26
Speaker 2: collapsed down the stretch that we had a game right
32:30
Speaker 2: about this time when The Arizona Cardinals Jonathan gannon came
32:36
Speaker 2: into the link and their record was almost about the
32:38
Speaker 2: same as what The raiders is, now and they came
32:41
Speaker 2: in and they beat The eagles in the middle of.
32:44
Speaker 2: That so don't tell me it can't. Happen it. Can't
32:48
Speaker 2: but you gotta go the distance With hurtz at this,
32:54
Speaker 2: point you really have no, choice and you just got
32:57
Speaker 2: to find a way to get him through through. This
33:00
Speaker 2: and it's it's largely on him because he knows he
33:04
Speaker 2: has to play, better but it's also on that offensive
33:07
Speaker 2: coaching staff to try and work him through what he's
33:10
Speaker 2: going through right, now because he looks like a guy who's,
33:13
Speaker 2: lost and you have four more weeks to try and
33:16
Speaker 2: help him find his way out of.
33:18
Speaker 1: It you, know are ready to be honest with. You
33:21
Speaker 1: leading up to this, game we find out That Nick
33:24
Speaker 1: sirianni is being more involved in the offensive.
33:27
Speaker 2: Meetings you.
33:28
Speaker 1: Know, saquon who never says anything, negatively openly admitted that
33:34
Speaker 1: the energy on the sidelines for weeks has been. Awful
33:39
Speaker 1: and then there's a positivity inflatable bunny in the locker,
33:43
Speaker 1: room a little bit, humorous BUT i think it's ill
33:45
Speaker 1: timed to have that in the locker. Room BUT i
33:48
Speaker 1: thought with all of, that the architect of this, offense
33:53
Speaker 1: the franchise running, back who usually sings the praises of
33:58
Speaker 1: everybody even in verse, times comes out and admits that
34:03
Speaker 1: we have not been up to expectation for weeks in
34:07
Speaker 1: terms of energy and matching opponents. ENERGY i thought they
34:11
Speaker 1: would come out like gangbusters against This chargers, defense and
34:16
Speaker 1: they still find themselves on the short side of the.
34:19
Speaker 1: Ledger so at this, point even though again they're eight and,
34:23
Speaker 1: five they're in control of their. Division but what has
34:27
Speaker 1: to be the mindset in this locker room right now
34:31
Speaker 1: in terms of what this team is going through. It
34:35
Speaker 1: it can't be good right. Now it just can't be good.
34:37
Speaker 2: Now, no, No AND i thought that it was when
34:46
Speaker 2: you're right in the way you Characterize. Barkley barkley is
34:50
Speaker 2: a guy who is always the glasses half. FULL i,
34:55
Speaker 2: mean he's always a guy that thinks and speaks on
34:58
Speaker 2: the positive, side you. KNOW i mean last week after
35:03
Speaker 2: the the bad loss To, chicago you, know he, SAID i,
35:07
Speaker 2: know his his quote, WAS i know outside people are
35:09
Speaker 2: going to say the sky is, falling but not in.
35:13
Speaker 1: Here you.
35:13
Speaker 2: Know it was sort of Like saquon is always the
35:16
Speaker 2: guy who's who's looking on the on the brighter side
35:20
Speaker 2: of whatever the situation. IS i, mean that's part of
35:23
Speaker 2: the reason why the people up In New york loved
35:25
Speaker 2: him when he was at The. GIANTS i, mean he
35:26
Speaker 2: went through all these horrible seasons with The giants and
35:29
Speaker 2: it was always, like, now you, know we got good players,
35:32
Speaker 2: Here we'll get this. Together when he made the statement
35:35
Speaker 2: that the energy on our sidelines has been, awful and
35:40
Speaker 2: that was the word he, used. Awful that WHEN i
35:45
Speaker 2: saw WHEN i saw that, story it really made my
35:47
Speaker 2: eyebrows go up because that is such a departure from
35:51
Speaker 2: the way he normally. Speaks and if he's saying, that
35:55
Speaker 2: THEN i know it's. Real. Uh and if he's saying,
35:59
Speaker 2: that THEN i know it's an. Issue AND i can
36:02
Speaker 2: kind of understand, it at least from the offensive, side
36:06
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i can understand the frustration those guys are going.
36:08
Speaker 2: Through on the other, side with the exception of The chicago,
36:11
Speaker 2: game on the other, side the defense has been playing really,
36:17
Speaker 2: tough really hard, hitting you, know really all totally all in.
36:23
Speaker 2: Football on the defensive, stord those, GUYS i don't. THINK
36:26
Speaker 2: i don't think there's an energy problem. There but on
36:30
Speaker 2: the offensive, SIDE i don't know if it's a matter
36:33
Speaker 2: of energy as much as it is just a lack of.
36:36
Speaker 2: Confidence right. Now they just Don't they just don't think
36:42
Speaker 2: that they're going To they don't think that they're good
36:44
Speaker 2: enough to take the ball and drive it down the
36:47
Speaker 2: field in a big spot and win a. GAME i,
36:49
Speaker 2: mean it's almost the complete opposite of what they were
36:51
Speaker 2: a year. Ago but that's kind of where we.
36:53
Speaker 1: Are would you agree That Jordan malatta has had an
36:57
Speaker 1: incredibly terrible season across the. BOARD i, mean he had
37:02
Speaker 1: the holding penalty which negated the touchdown to aj he's
37:07
Speaker 1: gotten away with my, GOODNESS i don't know how many
37:09
Speaker 1: holding penalties that haven't.
37:10
Speaker 2: Been called on.
37:11
Speaker 1: Him a, lot you, know but he has not been
37:16
Speaker 1: anything close to what he was in twenty twenty. FOUR
37:20
Speaker 1: i don't. KNOW i, mean you, know he does his weekly,
37:23
Speaker 1: show he says all the right things about you, know
37:27
Speaker 1: we've lacked focused in, execution and he's one of the
37:31
Speaker 1: primary culprits for this offense being as inconsistent as it has.
37:36
Speaker 2: Been, YEAH i mean last Year Pro Football, FOCUS i
37:47
Speaker 2: think it Was Pro Football. Focus, yeah it was graded
37:51
Speaker 2: him as graded him out as the best offensive as
37:57
Speaker 2: the best left tackle in all of. FOOTBALL i, mean
38:01
Speaker 2: he had like a season grade of something like ninety
38:05
Speaker 2: seven or. SOMETHING i mean it was like off the
38:08
Speaker 2: charts his performance last. Year And Lane johnson on the other,
38:13
Speaker 2: side was the best at his. Position that's. Back that's
38:17
Speaker 2: point does that seemed like a long time, Ago but back,
38:20
Speaker 2: then that was when The eagles offensive line was dominating
38:24
Speaker 2: the league and leading this team to The Super. Bowl
38:27
Speaker 2: they're not even close to that. Now In lane's, case
38:30
Speaker 2: it's been a matter of injury and physically just breaking
38:34
Speaker 2: down and the fact that he's been out with, injuries
38:38
Speaker 2: and even when he was, playing was playing clearly less
38:40
Speaker 2: than a hundred. Percent we haven't heard anything about injuries
38:44
Speaker 2: Of Jordan, malatta but his play has really, suffered AND
38:48
Speaker 2: i think that part of, IT i think is just
38:54
Speaker 2: he's Had dickerson to his, right And dickerson has really
38:58
Speaker 2: struggled all year of the, injuries the, knee the, ankle the.
39:03
Speaker 2: OBLIQUE i mean he's Had he's had three or four
39:07
Speaker 2: really serious injuries that have had him in and on
39:10
Speaker 2: and off the. Field and to be perfectly, frank probably
39:15
Speaker 2: a lot of guys wouldn't even be trying trying to
39:17
Speaker 2: play with, them but he. Is but it's clearly affected his,
39:20
Speaker 2: play AND i think his struggles and the plays that
39:25
Speaker 2: he can't make are affecting my. Lotta on the other,
39:28
Speaker 2: SIDE i think that there's been that the struggles that
39:33
Speaker 2: are happening over here are are are giving my lot
39:38
Speaker 2: of problems because he's way off his game. Too there's
39:41
Speaker 2: there's no question about. THAT i mean last, year you
39:45
Speaker 2: go back and you look at that series of sixty
39:48
Speaker 2: yard plus touchdown runs That barkley had last, year which
39:53
Speaker 2: was more than any running back in the history of
39:55
Speaker 2: football had sixty yard touchdown runs in one, season even
39:58
Speaker 2: more than Like Jim. Brown and look how many of
40:02
Speaker 2: those were off the left. Side most of them were
40:05
Speaker 2: because that's just how Dominant dickerson and My lota were
40:09
Speaker 2: as a pairing over. There and it hasn't been anything
40:12
Speaker 2: like that this. Year So, DICKERSON i think it's been
40:16
Speaker 2: an injury thing and my lot of perhaps because of
40:19
Speaker 2: What dickerson's going, through it's affected his game as. Well
40:23
Speaker 2: but he's way off where he was last. Year but
40:26
Speaker 2: that's you're talking about the whole offensive line from what
40:30
Speaker 2: we had last year and what helped you win A Super.
40:32
Speaker 4: BOWL i, mean you're not even close to that this. Year,
40:36
Speaker 4: well four games left to. Play the schedule favors them
40:43
Speaker 4: in terms of.
40:44
Speaker 1: Competition they play The, raiders coming up the worst team
40:49
Speaker 1: in The National Football. League they still have two games Against,
40:52
Speaker 1: washington but you don't discount those because those are division.
40:55
Speaker 1: Games and of Course washington Took denver a few weeks
40:59
Speaker 1: to go to overtime and should have Upset denver If
41:02
Speaker 1: Marcus mariota's passed has just been a little bit, higher
41:05
Speaker 1: and why running back wide opening the flats on a
41:07
Speaker 1: two point conversion would have up At denver didn't happen for.
41:10
Speaker 1: Him but you got a tough one as well coming
41:12
Speaker 1: up At, Buffalo, uh down the road as.
41:15
Speaker 2: Well it's a.
41:16
Speaker 1: Very, minimum very minimum for an offense that can barely
41:20
Speaker 1: score one testdown a. Game they should come away three
41:24
Speaker 1: and one and and end up with eleven wins this.
41:27
Speaker 1: Season But i'm not so sure it's gonna. Happen to be,
41:32
Speaker 1: Honest i'm. NOT i have no confidence in this this team.
41:36
Speaker 1: Whatsoever after What i've seen over the last three. WEEKS
41:40
Speaker 1: i don't know what to expect from this. TEAM i
41:42
Speaker 1: don't want to hear any more chatter in the locker
41:44
Speaker 1: room about focus and. EXECUTION i don't want to hear
41:48
Speaker 1: anything more about we're gonna stick.
41:50
Speaker 2: Together.
41:51
Speaker 1: Uh you, know nothing's going to divide us in this locker.
41:54
Speaker 1: Room the the only way you have to show, me
41:59
Speaker 1: and there's there's no excuse unless there's a significant amount of,
42:03
Speaker 1: injuries not just the one, player but a significant amount
42:07
Speaker 1: of injuries that could thwart you winning a minimum three
42:12
Speaker 1: of these last four. GAMES i can't accept anything that
42:16
Speaker 1: they say from the locker room or the podium for
42:19
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Speaker 2: Up it's. TRUE i, mean for everything that we've said here,
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Speaker 2: got here and it's the last three weeks have been really.
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Speaker 2: to accomplish this year is still. Achievable you, know they're
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Speaker 2: not five and, eight they're eight and five and they're
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Speaker 2: going to go to the. PLAYOFFS i firmly believe. THAT
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