Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / UN chief urges 'credible plan' for climate change
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now.
- 0:00Speaker 2: The Prime Minister Sekirre Starmer and Prince William are among
- 0:03Speaker 2: those gathering in Belem in northern Brazil ahead of the
- 0:07Speaker 2: UN Climate Conference next week. The gateway city to the
- 0:11Speaker 2: Brazilian Amazon is hosting what's being dubbed the Forest cop Well.
- 0:15Speaker 2: It takes place a decade after the Paris Climate Agreement,
- 0:18Speaker 2: in which countries pledge to try and restrict the rise
- 0:21Speaker 2: in global temperatures to one point five degrees. While a
- 0:24Speaker 2: recent UN report warned the governments are falling short of
- 0:27Speaker 2: those promises made, the UN chief said this year's meetings
- 0:31Speaker 2: must end with a credible plan. While Brazil hopes that
- 0:35Speaker 2: the location of this year's meeting will highlight the importance
- 0:38Speaker 2: of protecting the environment and its ecosystems. But there are
- 0:42Speaker 2: some key countries who won't be attending this time, big
- 0:46Speaker 2: economies and big polluters China, India and the United States will.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Our climate editor just enroll Out reports.
- 0:55Speaker 3: The fight against climate change has come to the edge
- 0:58Speaker 3: of the Amazon rain forest itself. But at a time
- 1:02Speaker 3: when faith in the international climate process is faltering, they're
- 1:08Speaker 3: still building the massive conference center that will host this summit.
- 1:11Speaker 3: The official opening is on Monday.
- 1:14Speaker 4: Only a couple of dozen world leaders are expected here
- 1:17Speaker 4: in Brazil for what is in effect the grand opening
- 1:21Speaker 4: of this conference.
- 1:23Speaker 3: The leaders of China, India.
- 1:25Speaker 4: And the US, together responsible for roughly half of world emissions,
- 1:30Speaker 4: will not be present. The US is withdrawing from the
- 1:33Speaker 4: Paris Agreement entirely, and the UN has conceded that the
- 1:38Speaker 4: latest round of carbon cutting commitments made by the countries
- 1:41Speaker 4: of the world fall short. It is not an auspicious
- 1:46Speaker 4: background for this summit.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Current commitments still point to climate breakdown. Scientists still asks
- 1:54Speaker 1: that the temporary overshoot above one point five degrees is
- 1:58Speaker 1: now inevitable, starting at the latest in the early twenty thirties,
- 2:04Speaker 1: and the best relivable future gets steeper by the day.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Yet there are glimmers of progress. Renewable energy technologies are
- 2:13Speaker 3: being deployed around the world far faster than was anticipated
- 2:17Speaker 3: a decade ago, and the global rise in CO two
- 2:20Speaker 3: emissions has nearly leveled off. However, these advances have been
- 2:25Speaker 3: driven more by market forces than by the Paris Agreement,
- 2:30Speaker 3: so whether this vast conference in Brazil can help restore
- 2:33Speaker 3: confidence in the UN climate process remains an open question.
- 2:39Speaker 3: Justin Rollad BBC News beleng.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Well, let's speak to Nigel top In, a former UN
- 2:46Speaker 2: Climate Change High Level Champion from the COP twenty six
- 2:50Speaker 2: presidency and more crucially, the current chair of the UK's
- 2:54Speaker 2: Climate Change Committee. Welcome to BBC News. We talk about
- 2:57Speaker 2: these meetings every year and what's quite startling is if
- 3:01Speaker 2: we look ten years on from Paris agreements and targets
- 3:05Speaker 2: haven't been met, have they? What hope do you have
- 3:07Speaker 2: of this year summit actually achieving as the UN wants
- 3:11Speaker 2: credible goals.
- 3:14Speaker 5: Well, I think I challenged the assertion that the process
- 3:16Speaker 5: is not working and nothing has been met, and that
- 3:20Speaker 5: we were on a trajectory for significantly north of four
- 3:23Speaker 5: degrees before Paris. So the curve has been bent but
- 3:26Speaker 5: not enough and we are going to overshoot one point
- 3:29Speaker 5: five degrees. It's a ratchet process and every five years
- 3:33Speaker 5: countries have to come back with new plans and we
- 3:36Speaker 5: are seeing more ambient The Chinese plan is significantly more
- 3:39Speaker 5: ambitious now for the first time that we'll see them
- 3:43Speaker 5: commit to reduce their emissions in absolute terms, and they've
- 3:46Speaker 5: always overcommit, they've always over delivered on there, so I
- 3:49Speaker 5: think what this is really going to be about is
- 3:52Speaker 5: moving on from the negotiation phase to moving into the
- 3:54Speaker 5: implementation phase, what we call the action agenda, and as
- 3:58Speaker 5: many many ministers and mayors and CEOs and financeers here
- 4:03Speaker 5: in Brazil looking at what actually has to happen to
- 4:06Speaker 5: accelerate renewal energy, electric vehicles, clean industry and their food
- 4:12Speaker 5: and land contribution to talk.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Talk about what needs to happen, Nigel, But you can't
- 4:18Speaker 2: help but notice the fact that three massive economies, massive
- 4:22Speaker 2: polluters as well, who are at the heart of these discussions,
- 4:25Speaker 2: aren't showing up this year, the US, India and China
- 4:27Speaker 2: who you mentioned, just them, Well.
- 4:30Speaker 5: I think it's not true that they're not showing up.
- 4:32Speaker 5: I think that they're talking about the leaders, some of
- 4:34Speaker 5: the heads of state. Of course, the USA are withdrawing
- 4:37Speaker 5: from Paris, which is the Paris Room, which is not good.
- 4:40Speaker 5: But the Indian and the Chinese delegation will be here.
- 4:43Speaker 2: The leaders aren't there. I mean it's a sign of
- 4:46Speaker 2: lack of kind of commitment in the sense that we
- 4:49Speaker 2: have seen the leaders attend previous cops, haven't we.
- 4:53Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you'd prefer to see a stronger turn out.
- 4:56Speaker 5: But I think you I always look like to look
- 4:58Speaker 5: at what's really happening on the ground in the economy,
- 5:01Speaker 5: and they're in both China and India are accelerating their
- 5:05Speaker 5: investment in renewable energy at a place and shifting quickly
- 5:09Speaker 5: towards electric vehicles, two big sectors that are really driving
- 5:13Speaker 5: down demand for fossil fuels in the future.
- 5:16Speaker 2: And just very briefly, if I can, what are the
- 5:18Speaker 2: main themes that you hope will dominate this year's summit
- 5:21Speaker 2: talk about electric vehicles. There's also of course about ensuring
- 5:25Speaker 2: that countries that are impacted the hardest get money to
- 5:28Speaker 2: support rehabilitation after these climate disasters. These things come up
- 5:33Speaker 2: every year, loss and damage funds. What do you want
- 5:37Speaker 2: to be at the heart of this year's agenda.
- 5:40Speaker 5: Well, finance is always at the heart, and there are
- 5:44Speaker 5: real headwinds there, but well, there's some quite creative new
- 5:48Speaker 5: instruments being developed to the launch to provide finance for
- 5:51Speaker 5: countries who are looking after standing forests. I think there
- 5:55Speaker 5: will be a big episence on adaptation really, with the
- 6:00Speaker 5: emphasis on how investment needs to flow to make economies
- 6:04Speaker 5: develop in a more resilient way, and then a lot
- 6:08Speaker 5: of emphasis on nature, how we pay for the restoration
- 6:13Speaker 5: of degraded lands and to transition towards regenital agriculture, a
- 6:16Speaker 5: big focus at the Brazilian TOP.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Okay, Nigel Top, and thank you very much for sharing
- 6:20Speaker 2: your thoughts ahead of those meetings. Of course, let's see
- 6:23Speaker 2: what comes out of them next week