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INTERVIEW: Dr. Chuck Morris Talks ‘Stress: Our Human Superpower,’ Regulating & Mastering Stress, Mindfulness, Fitness + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Every day, pack your ass up. The Breakfast Club. You
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Speaker 2: we had to run out. But Laura Lero says, here
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Speaker 2: and we got a special guest. He's got a book out,
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Speaker 2: The mis Education of Stress, Our human superpower, mister Chuck Morris.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir Gill, let's go. Let's good.
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Speaker 4: It is we accident every time I talk to him.
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Speaker 3: My less Charles government government, name is Charles. It's been chucked.
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Speaker 1: Got you.
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Speaker 5: People have been calling you Chuck Norris because remember Envy
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Speaker 5: was calling Chuck Norris a lot of two years.
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Speaker 3: He was saying that, yeah he did. It was getting weird.
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Speaker 3: Got Outward.
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Speaker 1: Do you know any martial arts?
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Speaker 3: Yes, but I don't tell people that because continues he
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Speaker 3: continues to populate the theory got You, got Ye into love?
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Speaker 4: The personal messages that you put in the book for us,
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Speaker 4: Oh well I'm real, Oh no, absolutely, yeah, just sign it.
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Speaker 3: No, I want to do that.
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Speaker 6: So well, my talks about the just the pressure of things,
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Speaker 6: and you say that on the book it says that
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Speaker 6: stress is our human superpower. So explain how if we're
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Speaker 6: pressured and we're feeling under you know, the midst of
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Speaker 6: all the things whybert stress be helpful? Stressed is like,
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Speaker 6: it doesn't feel helpful.
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Speaker 3: And that's Lord, I'm glad you started that. That's exactly
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Speaker 3: the issue, and that's why we say it's the miseducation.
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Speaker 3: Stress is technically the mechanism in our body that helps
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Speaker 3: us perform. It's literally your high performance system. But because
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Speaker 3: we don't understand it, we get taught that it's this
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Speaker 3: bad thing that we have to fight against or don't
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Speaker 3: let it happen. But in essence, when you're in your
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Speaker 3: flow state, that's a stress response.
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Speaker 4: Wow, people have been using flow state a lot lately.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a stress response.
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Speaker 5: So is that why people say things like, oh, I
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Speaker 5: operate better under stressed or under pressure?
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Speaker 4: Not understressed?
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Speaker 5: People say pressure, but pressure is Stresssure is stressed exactly.
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Speaker 3: So the way that the design of us is can't
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Speaker 3: be denied.
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Speaker 1: It's beautiful.
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Speaker 3: And this way I tell people, I say, I love Now.
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Speaker 3: I'm not an MD, I'm a scientist, so I stay
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Speaker 3: away from psychology medicine all that headstone. We focus on
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Speaker 3: human performance and just research and studies. Right, people say
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Speaker 3: all the time that it's because I'm stressed, is why
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Speaker 3: I'm having this response. It's because I'm stressed that I
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Speaker 3: don't know how to do something, And then they do
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Speaker 3: what I think is healthy, which is counseling and coaching,
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Speaker 3: which I think is beautiful. Counseling and coachingly. In my mind,
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Speaker 3: that's being taught how to open and shut the door
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Speaker 3: of stress. How do I open and close the door.
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Speaker 3: That's what counseling and prayer, meditation is. In my opinion,
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Speaker 3: what we're talking about here is exactly how the nervous
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Speaker 3: system is designed. Well, we're trying to open and shut
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Speaker 3: the door that's actually all the hinges. Because we're under
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Speaker 3: chronic stress, our systems are turned all the way up
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Speaker 3: into hyper danger. So the door isn't even on the hinges.
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Speaker 3: So why I say stress is your superpowers, because this
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Speaker 3: is the thing that helps you be great. The problem
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Speaker 3: isn't stressed, it's us understanding how it works. How do
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Speaker 3: we command it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want to keep you don't.
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Speaker 2: You don't really want to stress, right, because long term
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Speaker 2: exposure distress you know can cause damage, Like you know
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Speaker 2: your quarters all levels will be high.
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Speaker 1: You can that can severely harm your body.
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Speaker 2: It raises your blood pressure, it causes inflammation that can
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Speaker 2: lead to heart attacks and all types of stuff like.
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Speaker 1: You don't really want to stress.
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Speaker 5: But I see, but you wrote in the book here
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Speaker 5: you quote stress is not the enemy. Losing losing control
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Speaker 5: of the stress response is.
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Speaker 3: And to both of your point, we get taught grind.
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Speaker 3: I used to get a best seven to get a
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Speaker 3: bet four. You get it before, we'll get a bet three.
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Speaker 3: And it's go, go, go, go go. And the reality
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Speaker 3: of it is is we do go. And the capability
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Speaker 3: to go is a stress response. The challenges we don't
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Speaker 3: know how to turn it down regulated, so we don't
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Speaker 3: understand that we don't know how to regulate. Think of
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Speaker 3: it like a manual car and I'm always in one
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Speaker 3: gear and I don't know how to shift gears. Well,
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Speaker 3: the point of the book is to help people understand one.
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Speaker 3: It's not a personal issue, it's not a character flawed,
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Speaker 3: it isn't a discipline issue. Let's deal with just how
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Speaker 3: we're wired. If we just deal with the actual wiring
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Speaker 3: of the software that helps empower a person say, oh
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Speaker 3: wait a minute, so I can control this in our
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Speaker 3: space and a longevity wellness space, breath work or whatever
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Speaker 3: you want to call it, has turned into just calm down.
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Speaker 3: How do I extract myself out of this this tense
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Speaker 3: situation to calm down and breathe to calm down? And
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Speaker 3: in my own opinion, research and observation, it's doing us
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Speaker 3: a horrible dis justice because breathing is the only way
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Speaker 3: that I can change my entire physological state. And I
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Speaker 3: don't need to breathe just to calm down. So inside
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Speaker 3: of the book, you're going to have all these different
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Speaker 3: breathing techniques to help trigger your stress response, which is
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Speaker 3: your high performance mechanism.
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Speaker 1: So this book helps you to regulate your stress regulation mask.
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Speaker 3: So you could do a breathing technique that increases your
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Speaker 3: cognitive process as a reading technique.
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Speaker 6: Because I was thinking, when you're stressed, like I feel
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Speaker 6: like under stressed. I used to think I made the
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Speaker 6: best decisions under stress. But as I get older and
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Speaker 6: the decisions matter more, I don't know if I feel
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Speaker 6: that way anymore. But you saying the book that you
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Speaker 6: got to reroute the way that your brain deals with
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Speaker 6: judgment and stress, yes, but things be so chaotic when
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Speaker 6: you streuss or they feel like that.
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Speaker 4: So how are we rerouting that?
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Speaker 1: That is literally crazy? Why are you asking?
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Speaker 5: And I'm reading the ship and it literally speaks to
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Speaker 5: what you're saying when regulation is lost the ship decision
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Speaker 5: making degree.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 4: Shot, I'll just open it up to that page.
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Speaker 1: That's crazy. No, I was going off of what she
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Speaker 1: said about her life.
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Speaker 3: She like, not what she read.
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Speaker 5: What she said to you was how when it was
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Speaker 5: when she was younger, she would make better decisions, but
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Speaker 5: as she got older, like it became chaotic and hard
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Speaker 5: to make decisions.
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Speaker 4: And that's what I mean. I was reading because.
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Speaker 6: It'd be like now saying that I'm making decisions now
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Speaker 6: that I'm like, hmm, this is like that, right, But
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Speaker 6: it's just like your adult life, like the decisions matter
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Speaker 6: a lot more, or you feel like they do because
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Speaker 6: it's big girl decisions.
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Speaker 3: Now, Now, if you allow me to presume for your consideration,
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Speaker 3: I presume for your consideration, the reality of the moment
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Speaker 3: is the same, the relevance is the same. You're interpreting
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Speaker 3: it or we interpret it differently. Here's what I mean
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Speaker 3: by that. If just argue Charlotte Mane. He's about to
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Speaker 3: go on stage, he's going to do a talk, and
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Speaker 3: his people is dilated. He begins to swell a little bit,
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Speaker 3: his hands fill something in the stomach, and his body's
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Speaker 3: doing something. And let's say Robert, some random person. Robert
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Speaker 3: is having the same experience, and Robert has decided that
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Speaker 3: that is a problem and he needs to take medication
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Speaker 3: because he always has an issue before he goes on
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Speaker 3: to do something important. The difference becomes in that same physical,
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Speaker 3: actual reality. Charlotte Mane understands that. No, my peopils dilate
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Speaker 3: so I can see better and block out the side vision.
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Speaker 3: My stomach is acting up because it's getting anything out
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Speaker 3: of my stomach out of the way, because my system
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Speaker 3: is saying we don't need that. My heart rate is
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Speaker 3: increasing to increase the blood and actually into my brain
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Speaker 3: so I can make sure I remember everything. Two same
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Speaker 3: exact things are happening, but we're interpreting them differently.
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Speaker 5: He's just not panicking because he's understanding what's happening.
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Speaker 2: No, I agree with Now, I understand what you're saying,
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Speaker 2: because I do have panic attacks, right, But in a
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Speaker 2: moment like that, I would expect to feel some level
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Speaker 2: of what I call good anxiety because I know I'm
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Speaker 2: about to go out in front of these people.
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Speaker 1: What I'm about to do actually mean something to me.
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Speaker 2: So there is going to be a level of anxiousness,
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Speaker 2: whether you want to go out there and just you know,
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Speaker 2: do a good job. You're like, oh, let me go
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Speaker 2: out there and hurry, even get this over it, whatever
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Speaker 2: it is. But I think the other person, the panic
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Speaker 2: attack is when you you know, it's irrational fear, you
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Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I'm gonna walk out there,
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Speaker 2: somebody going to stand up with the crowd and shoot me.
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Speaker 3: And that starts that extreme starts way back. It starts
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Speaker 3: way back, and it starts when I'm younger because I
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Speaker 3: never was taught how to process all the little Michael
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Speaker 3: things that I went through. So I started creating these
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Speaker 3: frameworks in these belief systems that now when I get older,
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Speaker 3: everything is.
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Speaker 1: Hyper or you didn't know what it was when you
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Speaker 1: was younger.
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Speaker 2: I've been dealing with panic context since I was a child,
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Speaker 2: but I didn't know that it was it was. But
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Speaker 2: then when I talked to my father or other people
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Speaker 2: in my family who had those same experiences and they
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Speaker 2: were going to therapy and they were on medication.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, goddamn, why, I know what I'm dealing with.
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Speaker 3: What took me into this? So again the purpose of
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Speaker 3: the book, and a lot of people push back, never clients,
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Speaker 3: but the industry pushed back on I've been known this
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Speaker 3: full time three years, but twenty four years ago is
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Speaker 3: when this book started, and I was so I had
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Speaker 3: so much chronic stress built up in my body, chronic stress.
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Speaker 3: I was a high performer, blah blah blah blah. Oh
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Speaker 3: of that healthiest anybody that knew me, I was the
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Speaker 3: healthiest person that they knew. I thought I had pink eye.
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Speaker 3: Took the drops high pain tolerance. Three days later because
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Speaker 3: I got misdiagnosed it wasn't pink eye. Three days later,
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Speaker 3: I'm in SUBJGYI surgeons. They're like, hey, we're going to
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Speaker 3: cut this I out. Hey, this was coming out, not
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Speaker 3: an option, and you're gonna lose eighty percent of the
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Speaker 3: vision in this one, hands down, no discussion, and we
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Speaker 3: need you to calm down and stop physically fighting us.
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Speaker 3: Because I was in so much pain. It was as
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Speaker 3: if they had claws squeezing my eyes and running down
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Speaker 3: my nervous system. I literally contracted ulcers from stress, not
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Speaker 3: in my stomach, in my corneas. When God allowed me
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Speaker 3: to get healed from that, that's what started this.
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Speaker 1: You had hold on.
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Speaker 3: Now you have ul ulcers in my across my cornya
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Speaker 3: is in the family. Physician misdiagnosed it as pincott.
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Speaker 6: Yes, But even stuff like that, it's like, now you're
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Speaker 6: trying to like he about to anticipate how he cannot
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Speaker 6: get that, and it's gonna make you think about something
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Speaker 6: else that you might got to stress about.
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Speaker 3: But this and that's the point of the book that
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Speaker 3: when you read each chapter, it's gonna say, hey, this
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Speaker 3: is what's going on, this is how the body works,
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Speaker 3: and now here's something that I can do. The purpose
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Speaker 3: of the book is you call it a book, it's
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Speaker 3: a mini it's a field manual. What of six different
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Speaker 3: breathing techniques that I can use to turn on what
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Speaker 3: I need from my performance system when I need it.
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Speaker 3: And the more I learned how to do that, we're
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Speaker 3: going to change everything. Because even the biases that I have,
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Speaker 3: those biases came from stress responsors that I didn't know.
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Speaker 3: I didn't understand what to do with like my family,
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Speaker 3: and I don't want to traumatize anybody. I want to
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Speaker 3: bring anything back for anybody. So if this happens, I apologize.
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Speaker 3: The first time I witnessed death in front of me,
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Speaker 3: I was in fifth grade. A friend was murdered right
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Speaker 3: in front of me. We never had counseling. Never I've experience.
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Speaker 3: I had that experience four times in my life, never
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Speaker 3: had a code. These were just things that it was like, hey,
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Speaker 3: we don't have time for that. I'm my last key
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Speaker 3: kid in Philly. Hey keep it moving right, and all
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Speaker 3: of that stuff built up, built up, and that's what
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Speaker 3: changed everything. Because this stress thing, if we do it well,
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Speaker 3: it takes mental health to all whole other level.
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Speaker 1: It takes us.
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Speaker 3: Because mental health, we're trying to sleep at night, We're
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Speaker 3: trying to do things that we can't. Our coach is
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Speaker 3: trying to get us understanding stuff that we physically can't do. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: like we physically I can't. We had you have people,
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Speaker 3: Hey I can't meditate, I said, we can't meditate because
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Speaker 3: you don't know how to turn your brain off. Why
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Speaker 3: don't know how to turn my brain off? Okay, let's
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Speaker 3: show you how to do that. So that's like that's
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Speaker 3: the goal. Like if we could really get people to
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Speaker 3: understand what stress is, that it's not an enemy, that
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Speaker 3: it's not a bad thing, and then how does it
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Speaker 3: actually get me in my flow? How does it make
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Speaker 3: me great? Because it wasn't technically anxiety. We've just used
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Speaker 3: real bad language and it wasn't anxiety. That was literally
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Speaker 3: your system saying this is important, pay attention.
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Speaker 1: I mean I still think it was anxiety. It was
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Speaker 1: anxiety ilin.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't get diagnosed to later on in life,
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Speaker 2: but got right.
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Speaker 3: So when you look back.
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Speaker 1: Dealing with panic attacks and anxiety, that you.
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Speaker 3: Had crossed over, right, So what you were dealing with
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Speaker 3: had crossed over into the next level.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I've been clinically diagnosed. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Is it harder to make your brain quiet down when
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Speaker 2: your brain may be bigger than others?
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Speaker 3: No, No, it What it does do is you it's
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Speaker 3: a sensory issue.
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Speaker 1: It becomes a little bit more of a challenge.
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Speaker 3: So I have all kinds of sense for everything my
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Speaker 3: daughters around to them, I do. I have five kids.
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Speaker 3: To my daughters here with me, they can testify to
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Speaker 3: my issues but when you forget, no, y'all, don't have
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Speaker 3: to don't Just when you have a lot of cognitive output,
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Speaker 3: it's almost like you have a superpower like some of
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Speaker 3: the Marvel movies Spider Man, and you can just hear everything.
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Speaker 3: Your brain is like, you can't turn everything down. So
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Speaker 3: it takes more practice, like we have to do more reps,
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Speaker 3: but the work itself is the same. You just gotta
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Speaker 3: do more reps.
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Speaker 5: Now, what does relaxation quietly? Why does relaxation quietly fail people?
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Speaker 5: That's supposed to help you, like your lax But why
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Speaker 5: do you feel that it like quietly fails people.
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Speaker 3: Because we've taught, we've been taught, especially in America, that
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Speaker 3: relaxation means to stop. Relaxation means to slow down and
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Speaker 3: to not move. The only way I can relax is
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Speaker 3: to not move, as opposed to if I'm understanding how
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Speaker 3: my system is working, my attempt to relax is to
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Speaker 3: process what's happening with me, because that's really what I
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Speaker 3: want to do. I want to process what's happening with me,
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Speaker 3: and then my nervous system says that I'm safe, and
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Speaker 3: then it allows me chemically and noologically to calm down,
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Speaker 3: but instead often we just stop moving and that's not
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Speaker 3: the same thing.
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Speaker 5: And so that's how you command your nervous system on demand, correct,
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Speaker 5: because you also speak about that a lot to like
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Speaker 5: being able to command your nervous system. That's like some
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Speaker 5: of the hardesthit to do.
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Speaker 1: For exercises and stuff.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but if you're not in like your mindset is
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Speaker 5: just if you're everywhere and you're like a law of
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Speaker 5: emotions and you're in like a a situation that causes
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Speaker 5: you if you're overstimulated, I would say, how the.
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Speaker 3: Hell are you supposed to be able to do.
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Speaker 5: That, like without a coach, like, because sometimes you be
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Speaker 5: having to call me down and it's like yo, no,
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Speaker 5: like no, I'm trying to go at nah y'all, Like
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Speaker 5: you're like no, just read just because you know, how
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Speaker 5: are you supposed to be able to regulate that, like
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Speaker 5: to command your nervous system on demand?
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Speaker 3: I think the first thing is to recognize is that
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Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with you. I think that's the first
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Speaker 3: thing that that's not a problem. The fact that you're
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Speaker 3: you're feeling everything that's your body takes some more information
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Speaker 3: we can even process. That's not a problem. So the
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Speaker 3: moment I begin to think that that's a problem. Now
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to fix it, and I'm frustrated, so I'm
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Speaker 3: putting all the other So the first step is actually
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Speaker 3: this is not a problem. The question is what should
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Speaker 3: I be focusing on. Because I have the ability to
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Speaker 3: get all of it, and I can feel them behind me.
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Speaker 3: I can, But what's most important? And again the reading
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Speaker 3: techniques first, the book helping people kind of understand it. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: didn't do the breathing technique. It helps you just like,
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Speaker 3: wait a minute, there is another option, and it's a
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Speaker 3: real option. This isn't somebody's opinion. And what we did
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Speaker 3: on purpose was we not only did we just do
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Speaker 3: the book. There's a free app that we're not gonna
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Speaker 3: launch for another two months, but I won't. And the
15:17
Speaker 3: reason why we don't want to let the app out
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Speaker 3: is because I don't want to be a toy. By
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Speaker 3: reading the book, it's gonna change. It has the potential
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Speaker 3: to change your mind and how you're seeing reality. But
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Speaker 3: then the app is unique because it literally teaches you
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Speaker 3: and trains you. It's like a training app. You practice
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Speaker 3: breathing techniques. Uh, the phone will shaking your hand and
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Speaker 3: try to distract you so ultimately you're practicing what you
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Speaker 3: need so that you have it in a moment that
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Speaker 3: you need it.
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Speaker 2: That's why diagnosises are important, though, because you know, until
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Speaker 2: you have the language for what you're going through, your
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Speaker 2: thing is something else. You know how many times I checked
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Speaker 2: myself in the emergency room when I was young because
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Speaker 2: I thought something was wrong with my heart, not realizing
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Speaker 2: there was just anxiety and panic attacks. But I thought
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Speaker 2: something was actually wrong my heart, but it was anxiety.
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Speaker 3: This is man. The reason why that's so powerful is
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Speaker 3: because we often get taught that it's in your head, like, well,
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Speaker 3: what does that even mean? What do you mean? Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's all in my head. It's Yes, everything that I'm
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Speaker 3: experiencing is in my head. Of course it is, and
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Speaker 3: it's in the rest of me. It is a lot.
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Speaker 6: Listen, shut up, don't do him.
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Speaker 3: Have you ever had a dream when you wake up
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Speaker 3: from the dream and your shirt is wet from sweat
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Speaker 3: or your right so you're having a physical response for
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Speaker 3: something that's only happening in your mind. Oh wait, that
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Speaker 3: no matter, doctor, because I'm sleep Okay, go to a movie.
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Speaker 3: You're going to the movie. We paid for pretend, so
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Speaker 3: I know this isn't real. I paid for pretend. I'm watching,
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Speaker 3: I'm participating in pretend. But I cry. I laugh. If
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Speaker 3: it's an action scene and you do it long enough
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Speaker 3: and I've had trumb in my life and you start
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Speaker 3: doing stuff with your hands. These are physical responses to
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Speaker 3: stuff that's only happening in my head.
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Speaker 1: He's pointing something very discribed from.
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Speaker 3: I want you to know I thought it was a
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Speaker 3: competition at first.
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Speaker 1: When when I tapped.
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Speaker 3: You up, I did look at your head about the glove.
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Speaker 3: I know, I know that's what I did. I went
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Speaker 3: to what he was using. That's shade butter. But it's not.
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Speaker 2: That's what he use, something called client. No real, it's
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Speaker 2: really good. What it's true.
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Speaker 3: Listen, this this has happened. I'm going I got you,
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Speaker 3: I got I.
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Speaker 4: Do the four use y'all hands and put that on
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Speaker 4: y'all still try to use.
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Speaker 3: Okay, but you're like, he was coming at me just now.
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Speaker 2: But but what you're saying is absolutely right.
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Speaker 1: You have to know what's going on up here.
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Speaker 2: Like even when you're talking about being a super you
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Speaker 2: can't regulate any of that stuff.
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Speaker 1: If you don't know what it is like.
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Speaker 2: That was the biggest thing for me once I realized, Okay,
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Speaker 2: I deal with anxiety, right, are even about the depression?
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Speaker 2: You deal about the depression. You have to know these things.
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Speaker 2: When you know these things, you know how to regulate them.
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Speaker 3: That's it. I actually know that it. I know that
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Speaker 3: it's real. I know what it is. And to your point,
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Speaker 3: it's not an indictment against me as a person. It
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Speaker 3: doesn't mean I'm weak or it doesn't mean I've been
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Speaker 3: way to measure it and found lacking. No, this is
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Speaker 3: a real life thing that I don't get to just strong.
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Speaker 5: Arm and the title you say, stress is a superpower, right,
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Speaker 5: but most people look at it as something that they
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Speaker 5: want to eliminate. What are you what exactly are you
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Speaker 5: like trying to correct about that? Because it's miseducation of stress.
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Speaker 4: What I know.
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Speaker 5: It's not just one thing, but like, what is like
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Speaker 5: a key thing you want to correct?
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Speaker 3: Like Yeah, for me, one of the one of the
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Speaker 3: biggest things I'm trying to correct is that you are
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Speaker 3: not less than and you can't control it. Like That's
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Speaker 3: what I really want people to understand, Like you can't
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Speaker 3: you can't control it and that's why the book doesn't
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Speaker 3: say take control, says take command. Command is actually dispersing
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Speaker 3: and giving out orders as opposed to trying to contain it. No, no,
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Speaker 3: I want to direct it because I can't control it.
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Speaker 3: So for me, that's the biggest thing to help people
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Speaker 3: understand that there's nothing wrong with you and you don't
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Speaker 3: get to stop this. You don't get to stop it.
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Speaker 3: And the last part of it is to understand that
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Speaker 3: it's amazing.
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Speaker 1: I like that you can't control it.
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Speaker 2: You can only command it because you don't know when
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Speaker 2: it happens, Like it could be the most random thing.
19:32
Speaker 2: You'd be like, okay, after that. Yesterday, yesterday, I'm a
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Speaker 2: I'm at dinner. It was just me and my homie
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Speaker 2: and we were talking and we had we literally it
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Speaker 2: was one of those conversations that lasted like an hour
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Speaker 2: and some change right hour and happen. You know, you're
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Speaker 2: just getting lost in the conversation, and at some point, man,
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Speaker 2: I just looked around and was like, alright, it's time
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Speaker 2: to go. I'm getting paranoid because I started feeling myself
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Speaker 2: getting anxious for no reason, and so I was like,
19:55
Speaker 2: but I knew it's time to go. And you knew
19:58
Speaker 2: all of those people though, like I was just interrupt
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Speaker 2: I've been sitting there fine for hour and half.
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Speaker 1: There was nothing that changed.
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Speaker 2: I just it was just one of them things that
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Speaker 2: just like that random you know, panic attacks starting the
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Speaker 2: setting like you know what about and I told him
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Speaker 2: like yo, time to go, man for no reason.
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Speaker 6: But sometimes stuff like that, people would say, well, what
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Speaker 6: if that was like your intuition.
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Speaker 1: Telling maybe but always like.
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Speaker 6: That, Yeah, but like how do you defer to to
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Speaker 6: where it's like, nah, this is my inner voice really
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Speaker 6: telling me, no, you need to leave something something's wrong.
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Speaker 1: Orthing was wrong.
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Speaker 2: Though I just knew that my anxiety was setting in
20:32
Speaker 2: and I what I feel, and so it's just time
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Speaker 2: for me to leave. Like you said, you can't control it,
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Speaker 2: you can just command it, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: So I took command, like you know what, I'm about
20:42
Speaker 2: to be out because if I stay here any long,
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Speaker 2: i'ma have a random panic attack for no goddamny.
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Speaker 3: So that's his So that's education, it's education and history.
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Speaker 3: We we literally have intuition. And I don't I stick
20:54
Speaker 3: with I don't tell anybody, I don't try to push
20:57
Speaker 3: what I believe in anybody else. I stick with science,
20:59
Speaker 3: tic alogy, and biology because we can argue about that forever.
21:02
Speaker 3: With that being said, inside your stomach, inside of our stomach,
21:07
Speaker 3: we have sensors that actually can identify and feel vibrations
21:13
Speaker 3: like this is like you ever say oh I felt
21:14
Speaker 3: something to oh, no, I felt something in my stomach
21:17
Speaker 3: that's not in your head most.
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Speaker 2: Time, chicken sandwich over there, because I felt like.
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Speaker 4: It was me.
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Speaker 6: Now I had some oatmeal before you came betomach.
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Speaker 3: You literally feel that in your stomach and that and
21:36
Speaker 3: that's because from you, there's there's a frequency, there's a
21:40
Speaker 3: there was a micro frequency literally vibrating.
21:42
Speaker 1: Off of you.
21:43
Speaker 3: And when mine hits yours, and if there's something really
21:47
Speaker 3: off with you, it could be because of how how
21:49
Speaker 3: my own trauma. So I feel it because it's happening,
21:52
Speaker 3: but how I interpret it is based on what's going on.
21:55
Speaker 3: So that's you know, when you said, well, how do
21:58
Speaker 3: you know what you want? It is? You don't really know.
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Speaker 3: You just got to figure out what the next command is.
22:02
Speaker 3: So while that's happening, what's the command I need to give?
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Speaker 1: And doc, this's my last question.
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Speaker 5: You coached everybody from you know, all types of athletes, fighters,
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Speaker 5: NFL players, you know, to stay home parents, right, whatever,
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Speaker 5: everybody from everywhere. Right, What is the biggest myth that
22:22
Speaker 5: both that people on both ends of that spectrum believe
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Speaker 5: about their body.
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Speaker 3: I think the biggest myth that they both. I used
22:32
Speaker 3: to think when we were super poor, that I just
22:34
Speaker 3: needed money and I was going to change my life.
22:36
Speaker 3: And I realized that wasn't it, because then I felt
22:39
Speaker 3: I felt my first three multimillions that cried themselves to sleep.
22:44
Speaker 3: So I think the biggest myth that we that goes
22:46
Speaker 3: across that entire spectrum is the belief that as that
22:50
Speaker 3: aging and decaying is the same thing that And I've
22:55
Speaker 3: been fighting that for eighteen years with people. They think
22:58
Speaker 3: aging and decaying is the same thing, and it is not.
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Speaker 1: Get what you're saying.
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Speaker 3: It is not. And the fight that truth with people
23:06
Speaker 3: is that's the word.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 5: So the cairn that that something's wrong, like you're doing
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Speaker 5: something wrong, like you're literally rotting right.
23:17
Speaker 3: People think, oh, well, an example would be your knee
23:20
Speaker 3: hers because oh I'm fifty now, I'm losing I can't
23:24
Speaker 3: remember things because I'm getting older. All that's all of that,
23:27
Speaker 3: that entire reality that entire language an expression is evil,
23:32
Speaker 3: It is wicked, and it is a lie.
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Speaker 1: You're right.
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Speaker 2: We put we put we put value on things that
23:36
Speaker 2: have age, like like wine and kanyacing.
23:40
Speaker 3: But the most existence.
23:42
Speaker 1: But your body. We act yeah, we act like it's
23:44
Speaker 1: the can as we get older. Know you're right, You're right. Yeah, listen,
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