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- Lucas: You know what keeps me up at night as a business journalist, Luna? The gap between what boards say they do and what they actually do. Luna: And you've got a case study that closes that gap? Lucas: I do. Costco. Specifically, how their board operates in a way that most governance experts would call 'wrong' on paper, but that produces some of the best long-term returns in retail. Luna: Alright, I'm listening. Because Costco's stock has tripled in the last decade, and they pay their cashiers over 30 bucks an hour. Something's working. Lucas: Exactly. So let's start with board tenure. The median director tenure at an S&P 500 company is about five years. At Costco, it's fifteen. Some directors have served since the early 1990s. Luna: That flies in the face of every 'refresh the board' guideline from ISS and Glass Lewis. Lucas: It does. And yet Costco's independence ratio is still around 80 percent. The key is that long tenure gives directors the context to understand Costco's operating model—which relies on high wages, low turnover, and razor-thin margins—and to defend it when analysts push for changes. Luna: Defend it how? Like, actively push back? Lucas: There's a famous board meeting story from 2017. An activist investor presented a proposal to raise prices on the rotisserie chicken from $4.99 to $7.99. The CFO at the time, Richard Galanti, later told a reporter that the board didn't even debate it. They just said, 'That's not who we are.' And the proposal was tabled. Luna: That chicken is a loss leader, right? They lose money on every bird. Lucas: They lose about 30 cents per chicken. But the board understands that the chicken drives foot traffic and reinforces the treasure-hunt shopping experience. A short-term profit move would erode the brand. Luna: Honestly, if today was worth a coffee to you, that's the link — buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Keeps these conversations ad-free and coming. Anyway, back to the chicken. Lucas: Yeah. So that decision—which happened again in 2023 when inflation hit—isn't just about pricing. It's a governance signal. The board is willing to forgo hundreds of millions in potential profit to preserve a cultural tenet. Luna: But can you scale that? If Costco's founders weren't on the board, would the next generation hold the line? Lucas: That's the billion-dollar question. Jim Sinegal stepped down as CEO in 2012, but he stayed on the board until 2022. His influence is baked into the culture. But the current CEO, Ron Vachris, came up through the warehouse operations side. He's not a finance guy. He's a 40-year Costco lifer. Luna: So the board intentionally chose an insider as CEO, not an outsider with a 'fresh perspective.' Lucas: Right. And that's part of the strategy. The board's compensation committee also structures pay around long-term performance. The CEO's bonus is tied to same-store sales growth and member satisfaction scores, not earnings per share. Luna: That is so rare. Most retailers tie executive comp to gross margin or operating income. Lucas: And that's why most retailers can't replicate Costco's model. The board has also capped gross margins at 14 percent on branded goods and 15 percent on Kirkland Signature. That's a policy, not a guideline. Luna: Wait, the board actually enforces a gross margin cap? How? Lucas: It's written into the board's strategic oversight charter. The merchandising committee reviews quarterly reports on margin by category. If a category exceeds the cap, the committee asks for justification. It's not a hard rule, but it's a strong norm. Luna: So the board is actively preventing the company from maximizing profit in the short term. That's almost anti-fiduciary duty on paper. Lucas: Unless you define fiduciary duty as maximizing long-term shareholder value, which Costco's stock performance shows they do. Since 2000, Costco has returned about 14 percent compound annual growth rate, versus about 8 percent for the S&P 500. Luna: So the governance model that everyone warns against—long-tenured insiders, margin caps, stakeholder focus—is actually generating alpha. Lucas: That's the paradox. And it's not just Costco. If you look at the top-decile long-term performers in the S&P 500, many of them have founder-led or founder-influenced boards. Think of Berkshire Hathaway, Netflix in its early years, or even Apple under Steve Jobs. Luna: But those are exceptions. Most companies don't have a Jim Sinegal or a Warren Buffett. Lucas: True. But what Costco shows is that board composition should be tailored to the company's strategy, not to a one-size-fits-all governance scorecard. When ISS gives Costco a low governance score because of long tenure, that score doesn't capture the value of institutional knowledge. Luna: So what's the lesson for a board that wants to think more like Costco? Specifics. Lucas: Three things. One: recruit directors who have operational experience in your industry, not just CEO or CFO generalists. Two: structure compensation around the metrics that actually drive your long-term competitive advantage—for Costco, that's member satisfaction and employee retention. Three: be willing to say no to short-term profit if it threatens your brand. Luna: And maybe don't let proxy advisors dictate your board composition. Lucas: Exactly. Because at the end of the day, a board that understands the business can make decisions that look wrong from the outside but are exactly right for the long haul. The rotisserie chicken is a metaphor, but it's also just a really good chicken. Luna: Cheapest in town. And now I want one. Lucas: Same. That's Boardroom Conversations with Fexingo. Episode 10 in the books.