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The Psychology Of Being A Fan Girl · Two Broke Chicks

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  Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadagal Land, Always was, always
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  Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land.
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  Speaker 2: He jicks, I'm out and this is two broot chicks
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  Speaker 2: to show that shares life lessons and tips to help
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  Speaker 2: you be the richest in life.
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  Speaker 3: Hot funny, hot funny, nearly as cool as these two
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  Speaker 3: cheeks and humble too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, I feel like this week's episode
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  Speaker 2: is getting away from the humble anti humble episode.
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  Speaker 4: Because we're talking about being a fucking fangirl.
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  Speaker 3: The role I was born to play. Yes, holding my
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  Speaker 3: iPad upside down.
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  Speaker 4: Stand it.
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  Speaker 2: They embracing the fangirl, the rise of the fangirl, the resurgence,
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  Speaker 2: if you will. The fangirl is so bad, the fangirl
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  Speaker 2: is so back and thank goodness, honestly scared for a
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  Speaker 2: little bit there me too.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, what's going on? No one seems like
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  Speaker 4: we're vibing.
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  Speaker 2: You've probably heard tow and I often on this show
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  Speaker 2: saying the term big fun, big fun yeah, which really
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  Speaker 2: just comes from us being big fans of everything, literally,
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  Speaker 2: and I like it. I like being big fun me too,
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  Speaker 2: because it's just funner. It's funner to be a fangirl.
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  Speaker 2: It's funner to be a big fun So I would
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  Speaker 2: like to at the top of this episode.
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  Speaker 4: I apologize for how many times we're going to say that, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because it's already locked in.
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  Speaker 2: I've said it once now and it's kind of like
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  Speaker 2: a rash. It's just going to spread and it feels
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  Speaker 2: good to scratch it.
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  Speaker 4: So it's good.
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  Speaker 3: It's good stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, steroid Croom's.
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  Speaker 3: Going to help that one, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But before we get into it, what is your obsession
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  Speaker 2: for zib?
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  Speaker 3: My obsession of the week is a study that I
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  Speaker 3: saw while scrolling this week and the headline was data
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  Speaker 3: shows we need to talk triggers cards all spikes.
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  Speaker 2: Even just then when you said it, I was like, right,
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  Speaker 2: don't ever say that to anyone.
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  Speaker 4: Don't say that. I don't when you say that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in the headline they said that it triggers called
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  Speaker 3: as old spikes as bad as near death experiences. But
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  Speaker 3: I was, I think that's a little bit tongue in cheeks.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to throw that. I don't know, but
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  Speaker 3: I would maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't had that many near death experiences
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  Speaker 2: to be completely transparent too, but like that, we need
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  Speaker 2: to talk feels up there for me, yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 3: And it's psychologists say it's because like that uncertainty of
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  Speaker 3: we need to talk triggers more stress than the event
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  Speaker 3: itself because then your mind instantly it's gone. In the
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  Speaker 3: worst case scenario.
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  Speaker 2: Threw a rollerdex so like what could happen? The same
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  Speaker 2: thing is like, Oh, I need to tell you something.
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  Speaker 4: Is it good?
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  Speaker 5: Is it bad?
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  Speaker 4: Is it what? What do you need to tell you tomorrow?
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  Speaker 4: Jail illegal?
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  Speaker 2: No, okay, unless it's like, unless you're gonna say nothing bad,
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  Speaker 2: it's good.
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  Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, like, because that I will
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  Speaker 3: preface that.
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  Speaker 2: I will be like, oh, I have to tell you
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  Speaker 2: something funny. Tomorrow, I'll tell you something blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not telling you of text because I want
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  Speaker 2: the dopamine hips and your reaction.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, give a descriptor yeah, don't ever say we need
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  Speaker 3: to talk, And if like you, yeah, there are alternatives
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  Speaker 3: like can I run something by you? Can we chat
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  Speaker 3: real quick?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I saw something funny, I've got tea Yeah, No, we
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  Speaker 3: need to talk. What okay?
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  Speaker 6: What do you do?
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  Speaker 4: Though? If you do have something bad to tell someone.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's almost any way that you say
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  Speaker 3: it is probably gonna be a little bit anxiety inducing,
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  Speaker 3: but even just being like I'd love to get your
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  Speaker 3: thoughts on something, or like something's been on my mind.
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  Speaker 3: Can we chat about it, like just something that's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit gentle a.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what's crazy is that, like in today's
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  Speaker 2: day and age, that I hate that so much I
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  Speaker 2: might just.
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  Speaker 4: Break up with me of a text.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, just doing it, obext, just rip it off
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  Speaker 2: rather than be there now. Oh it's okay, it's okay.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know anyway, Yes, seriously, Yeah, but yeah I
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  Speaker 3: saw that and I was like, just find me in
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  Speaker 3: an email.
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  Speaker 4: It's all right, it's okay. I'd rather not wait, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because I'm going to sit here to cuck on my
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  Speaker 4: palas for that the entire time. Yeah, it's actually it's
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  Speaker 4: it's less respectful.
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  Speaker 3: Rip the band aid off.
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  Speaker 4: Please, We'll just pick up the.
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  Speaker 3: Phone and be like, you're fired amazing. What was your obsession?
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  Speaker 4: My obsession of the week is Camber. I love Canva.
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  Speaker 3: What a worthy I love her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we haven't discussed Camber enough. We
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  Speaker 2: use Canber obviously. Oh, every day through work, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: love her. She's amazing. She's the backbone of this entire company.
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  Speaker 2: At this point, she really puts in the hours.
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  Speaker 3: She is the third roache. Yeah, the shift is on, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: But in terms of this my favorite thing that I've
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  Speaker 2: been doing on Camber because I am like type A,
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  Speaker 2: B C D E FG Courtney Kutash.
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  Speaker 4: And just gotta ship down abcd FG what does that
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  Speaker 4: even mean? Etail now a freak. I love her.
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  Speaker 3: I love her.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing. I don't love her. I don't know her.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know you.
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  Speaker 6: You don't love me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's one of those episodes guysky. But what
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing pre Europe is putting my entire packing
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  Speaker 2: into a visual packing list. When I tell you this
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  Speaker 2: is the actual I'm never going to pack for a
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  Speaker 2: holiday any other way ever again, because I always forget
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  Speaker 2: what's in my bag. It's probably like shoved down under
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  Speaker 2: a pack of.
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  Speaker 4: Dirty undies and I'm like, I don't know what's in there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who you are. I've never met you before.
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  Speaker 2: Oh look at this top I forgot I brought that.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been basically getting all of the ghosts images
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  Speaker 2: of my clothes and putting them into like dresses, tops,
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  Speaker 2: bottoms of a presentation.
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  Speaker 4: And I can make a little video tutorial if anyone's interested.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just just so easy because then you can
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  Speaker 2: like just play around and mind map your outfits.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing that this has.
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  Speaker 2: Really forced me to visually see is how much I
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  Speaker 2: don't need to pack. Yeah, it's really like forced me
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  Speaker 2: to be like I don't need these and ull shit,
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  Speaker 2: those are all the same short that's the same thing, Alex.
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  Speaker 3: And so I'm like, okay with this top and it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't go with any of the bottoms.
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  Speaker 4: That I've exactly exactly. That's the other thing it's done.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I've got this one top, but what am
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  Speaker 2: I actually wearing with that? Like? How many things does
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  Speaker 2: that go with? So you can even go one thing
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  Speaker 2: further and you get one top and you put one
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  Speaker 2: top in the whole row, and then you put all
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  Speaker 2: the different bottoms underneath it, so you're basically creating all
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  Speaker 2: the outfit combinations. And I'm really like the man with
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  Speaker 2: the red string and like a beautiful minding it together.
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  Speaker 3: It's so good.
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  Speaker 4: It's the most satisfying thing world.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I copied you and I did the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you didn't copy me. I did message you saying
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  Speaker 4: I need you to.
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  Speaker 2: Do this so that I can see what you're packing
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  Speaker 2: and so I can see what else I have to wear.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, because that's the good thing of like being best
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  Speaker 3: friends with someone.
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  Speaker 4: Who is a copy of each other.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we can just share all the same clothes. So
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  Speaker 3: it kind of harves the packing, and yet we still overpack.
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  Speaker 4: But it is good. I have six shorts, actually I
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  Speaker 4: think it's eight. I need to cull. Yeah, I need
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  Speaker 4: to come.
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  Speaker 3: I have a look, but see if I can make notes.
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  Speaker 3: One thing I did. One thing I did want to
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  Speaker 3: say as well, is that I realized when I was
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  Speaker 3: making it sometimes I couldn't be bothered like making sometimes
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't be bothered grabbing the ghost image of a
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  Speaker 3: certain item. And that told me I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: pack it and I'm not going.
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  Speaker 7: To wear it.
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  Speaker 3: If I could be fucked grabbing the ghost image of that,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to be inspired to wear it. Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, damn yeppers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you know how you're like, oh, yeah this, I've
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  Speaker 3: worn this in eighties, but I need this in Albania. Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the other thing I'm gonna do is try
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  Speaker 2: everything on before I go.
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing that too, because.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I just know this is one of I
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  Speaker 2: don't want that situation where the outfit works in my head.
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  Speaker 2: Then I get there and I'm like, cool, I pack
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  Speaker 2: this one thing that I'm not gonna wear the whole
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  Speaker 2: time now because I actually hate it in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the outfit that I thought would work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been doing the same thing, and I'm also like,
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  Speaker 3: if I don't feel one hundred percent comfortable and confident
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  Speaker 3: in it, I'm not packing it.
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  Speaker 4: I do nothing's for a pick exactly. The pick is dead.
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  Speaker 4: Go away.
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  Speaker 3: Fuck off?
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  Speaker 2: All right, now that we've already mentioned to fuck off,
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  Speaker 2: let's go to the other big f big fun.
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  Speaker 3: Big fun, big fun.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, fangirls not new, but important to you kind of
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  Speaker 2: create the definition and backstory of what we're talking about today.
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  Speaker 2: So soa as you know, our resident fangirl. What is
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  Speaker 2: a fangirl?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, honestly could talk about this topic all
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  Speaker 3: day long, but yeah, the origins of the fangirl go
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  Speaker 3: back so so far, and essentially, a fangirl is like
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  Speaker 3: a girl or a woman who loves something, whether it's books, movies,
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  Speaker 3: a band. That topic can cover so many different things,
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  Speaker 3: which is why I absolutely love it. But the first
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  Speaker 3: case of fangirls was in the late eighteen hundreds. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, you're really old.
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  Speaker 6: I was there.
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  Speaker 3: You were the og fangirl Yeah, I was the leader
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  Speaker 3: of that fan club. But yeah, the first case of
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  Speaker 3: the fangirls was in the late eighteen hundreds with Penis
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  Speaker 3: franz List and his female fans.
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  Speaker 4: Nah, how fucking good is that?
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  Speaker 3: And their hystory was known as litzer Mania. How fucking
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  Speaker 3: funny is that?
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  Speaker 2: Bring it back?
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  Speaker 3: I thought the beatle Mania was like the first case
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  Speaker 3: of that, but apparently not. Literally was Bigltz Big Litz's
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  Speaker 3: like you know. And then the original fangirls came a
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  Speaker 3: few decades later in the nineteen forties and nineteen fifties
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  Speaker 3: with Frank Sinatra's female fans called Bobby Sox's, which is cute.
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  Speaker 3: And then obviously we've seen the fangirl phenomenon through other
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  Speaker 3: artists and things like Elvis Presley, the Beatles, Britney Spears,
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  Speaker 3: Justin Bieber of course one.
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  Speaker 2: Direction Taylor Swift arguably the biggest fan collection all one
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  Speaker 2: of them for sure.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's been in in terms of like current day,
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  Speaker 2: I think Taylor Swift has the biggest fan base. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean you could probably go into like athletes, but.
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  Speaker 3: That's not also some of the K pop fandoms. Yeah
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  Speaker 3: pretty true too. But yeah, so so interesting. And I
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  Speaker 3: literally wrote my honors thesis on fan culture. Ah, but
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  Speaker 3: it was on like Lord of the Rings fandom and
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  Speaker 3: how that's an example of a fandom that started in
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  Speaker 3: like the nineteen forties and how it's evolved into the
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  Speaker 3: twenty first century.
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  Speaker 4: That's so cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was, let's get that back up. I know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, where's the I need to bring the report
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  Speaker 3: in with me. But yeah, so I just love it.
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  Speaker 2: When you hear the word fangirl. Do you think it's
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  Speaker 2: a positive or a negative word.
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  Speaker 3: I see it as a positive for myself, yeah, because
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  Speaker 3: I've always been a fangirl and I consider myself like
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  Speaker 3: a fangirl in so many different things. I don't know why,
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  Speaker 3: I've just always been that way. I've been very passionate
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  Speaker 3: about lots of different things, whether it's an artist or
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  Speaker 3: a franchise or a sports team. Whatever, But I do
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  Speaker 3: know that there are negative connotations. Yeah, two fangirls, But
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  Speaker 3: I think I personally embrace it. What about you?
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  Speaker 8: I agree, I think similar to you, Like, I like
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  Speaker 8: the idea of liking things like I like the idea
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  Speaker 8: of wanting to like something and being like going into
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  Speaker 8: a movie wanting to like something.
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  Speaker 4: And we've you know, always spoken.
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  Speaker 2: About that together because like, every each to their own
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  Speaker 2: and however you want to live your life, go for it,
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  Speaker 2: you know. But I find life a lot more fun
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  Speaker 2: walking into things with the intention to like something. And
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of how I've embraced like that fangirl nature.
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  Speaker 2: I don't love everything, but it's like the things that
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  Speaker 2: I do like, I like the things that I love.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, yeah, it's fun.
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  Speaker 2: But it definitely does have negative connotations, not in terms
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  Speaker 2: of like, you know, being like we think it bad,
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  Speaker 2: but I think naturally the fangirl term has been, you know,
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  Speaker 2: used to describe masses of women, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And typically it's used to describe them as a way
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  Speaker 3: that's frivolous, hysteric exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So like the betrayal of women with passion is framed
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  Speaker 2: as like excessive, like you said, frivolous, hysteric, and a
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  Speaker 2: fangirl is defined by the Merriam Webster Dictionary as a
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  Speaker 2: girl who is an extremely or overly enthusiastic fan of
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  Speaker 2: someone or something which I'm like, even just using the
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  Speaker 2: two terms extremely or overly enthusiastic.
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  Speaker 4: Like, who are you to tell me if I'm overly
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  Speaker 4: enthusiastic about something?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you're not enthusiastic enough. Yeah, yeah, and my passion exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I do think it's important to note that, like, there
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  Speaker 2: are certain examples of fans going too far in.
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  Speaker 4: Certain cases, and that's not what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: When I talk about span culture in that negative.
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  Speaker 4: Word or like literal stalking. Okay, yeah, I like, that's
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  Speaker 4: not what we mean.
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  Speaker 2: But a fangirl in the Oxford Dictionary is defined as
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  Speaker 2: behaving in an obsessive or over excited way. In the
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  Speaker 2: book Adoring Audience, Fan Culture and Popular Media, edited by
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  Speaker 2: Lisa A. Lewis, we learn that the fangirl has been
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  Speaker 2: constructed as an identity to avoid because she is attached
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  Speaker 2: to youth, femininity, and poor taste. But when you compare
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  Speaker 2: these definitions to a fan, just fan, and you lose.
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  Speaker 4: The word girl.
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  Speaker 2: It is an enthusiastic devotee as of sport or a
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  Speaker 2: performing art, usually as a spectator. So when you attach
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  Speaker 2: girl to the word, it then creates this sexist underlying
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  Speaker 2: tone that it's like, you're stupid and you don't know
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  Speaker 2: what you want and you're just being too much.
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  Speaker 3: And you can't control your emotions exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And it's again that these gendered words like girl, boss
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  Speaker 2: and girl math that when you attach the word girl
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  Speaker 2: to a word, whether it's boss, math or fan, it
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  Speaker 2: becomes dumb or stupider.
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  Speaker 4: And not as deep.
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  Speaker 2: And we've seen this especially in the rise of like
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  Speaker 2: romance books and the conversation around those.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean look at Off Campus on Prime for example.
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  Speaker 2: That's Prime's third biggest TV series debut ever. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that received thirty six million viewers in twelve days. However,
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  Speaker 2: romance as like a genre and the fans of romance
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  Speaker 2: are often depicted and looked at to be less intellectual
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  Speaker 2: than those of a drama or a thriller or an
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  Speaker 2: action or some quirky ardi thing that I'm like, what
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  Speaker 2: was that three hours for?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's considered low exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I do think it's very interesting to know,
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  Speaker 2: and it makes me think of you know, other examples
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  Speaker 2: of like in history of just women being grouped together.
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  Speaker 2: It makes me think of like witches and like covens
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  Speaker 2: and how those were in history depicts it as.
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  Speaker 4: Evil and bad that it's like the men don't want
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  Speaker 4: dush together.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't want us to vand were together.
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  Speaker 4: We are too powerful for the men.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, I actually do believe this is this like patriarchal system.
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  Speaker 2: They have like a monthly meeting and they're like the
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  Speaker 2: girls like each other.
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  Speaker 4: They're enjoying each other's company. We've got to do something,
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  Speaker 4: yea that it's like Nana.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I matter.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna fangirl over here, and it's interesting to see
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  Speaker 4: how it all kind of weaves together.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's like that even if you are a
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  Speaker 3: fan of something, there's also a lot of the time
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  Speaker 3: from or from some men that there's instantly like a
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  Speaker 3: bit of skepticism around it. So say, if you're a
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  Speaker 3: fan of something that maybe doesn't sit under that fangirl umbrella,
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  Speaker 3: So say if it's like a metal band or a
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  Speaker 3: sports team or something that is typically associated with a
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  Speaker 3: male fandom. If you're wearing like a sports jersey, Someone's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be like, hmmm, do you even like them? Or like,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: are you only wearing that Nick's jersey because they won
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: this year?
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: And or like have you ever worn a band shirt
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: and someone's been like name five of their songs?
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: And that pisses me off because I can't remember what
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I had for breakfast, I don't know what the name
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: of the song is.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I know the chorus and I enjoyed it. Leave Me Alone? Yeah,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: so silly.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But also it's like if you're wearing a Harley shirt,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not being like, where's the hog parked?
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, like yeah, you got no dog in the race? Yeah?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: And like you can listen to one song and be
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: a fan of a band exactly, or you could just
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: like the design of the tea sh When did.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: There become rules of requirement for being a fan of something.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: If you went to Wicked and the only song you
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: know is Defying Gravity, wear the shirt.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Like there's no rules.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: To entry to be able to enjoy something, and that
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: as a phrase is like so much bigger than just
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: pop culture, Like there is no rule or minimum price
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: of entry to enjoy something in life that I think
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: that's like where the importance of being a fan girl
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: lies and being a fan because it's just purely rooted
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: in Sorry, I can't take the term rooted without wanting
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: to lied.
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: It's purely rooted in just enjoyment and liking something and fun,
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: you know, And I think there's so much emphasis on
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: being an.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Intellectual and critical thinking, which yes, that has its time
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: and place, but what happened to just blind enjoyment and
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: just like, you know, leaning into that what you were
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: saying before was interesting. Did you see Selena Gomez on
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: her story posted that you know about the Nicks and
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: was like, oh funny to see that, Like some people
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: are suddenly fans now, Yeah, that was really bizarre, a
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: bizarre comment to make.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Selena, yeah, backstory.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've seen a lot of people discussing that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and whether it was like shade to Taylor Swift or
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah, And I don't I don't
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: know if it's that deep, but I think I do
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: think comments like that are unhelpful.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, isn't more the merrier?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Well that's the thing as well, because I've definitely been
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: guilty of that in the past. Oh yeah, Like there
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: have been things that I've loved and was bullied for
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: and then other people start enjoying it, and then I
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: was resentful at that. I mean, like you only just
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: started liking them. But then I've grown up and realized,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: But isn't that good for whatever I'm supporting the book
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: or the movie or the band or whatever, Like, don't
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I want more people to like them and enjoy it
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: and get involved and grow the community, yeah, and get
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: exactly the more the mary Are.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Kind of felt that way when like a lot of
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: more male creators were coming onto that book talk.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like totally are the girls And.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Like, I think you could probably dive into that, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: like maybe there's probably a bit more about like having
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: spaces for women to be with women and whatever. But
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, someone else's
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: enjoyment of something doesn't take away.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: From yours, exactly.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And that's like the key part that if you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: everyone wants to start watching soccer because the World Cup
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: is on, yeah, doesn't it make it more fun? Yeah?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: And so that kind of goes into the benefits of
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: being a fangirl and jumping on the bandwagon.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the bandwagon. I don't jump on the bandwagon.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: I drive it, you know.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I am tote tote trager chagger, big red bandwagon.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Yep, totally.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I got my license.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I fucking love it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I think it's so fun to jump on the bandwagon.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I don't care if anyone has an issue with it,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: because it's more like, for example, sports, sports has taken
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: a center stage recently with the World Cup. Lots of
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: people are getting involved, even if they don't typically follow
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: football or soccer however you want to reference it, don't
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: upset anyone. So the rise of interest in the World
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Cup has also expanded into the fashion world. So pinterest
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: summer trend report has shown the interest in World Cup
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: t shirts is up eight hundred and forty percent, which
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: is so crazy wild. And another trending sports bandwagon we've
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: seen is the hype around the New York Knicks in
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: the NBA. Lots of people becoming interested and what's happening
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: because the Knicks have managed to pull off like the
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: biggest comeback in NBA Finals history. There overcame a twenty
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: nine point lead of the other teams, to take out
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the final, which.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Is so cool. I also think as well.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: You know, we've seen because of the rise of Sorry
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I keep referencing it, but like hockey shows like heated
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: rivalry and off campus people going up, people going to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: hockey hockey games.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like kean, if anyone wants to.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Go, yeah, literally and like not for the warm up
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: the ice thrust.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Have you seen those?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, where they're like stretching their very very good.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I like it. I like yeah, yeah, and oh the
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: ice is like I'm.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like, al right, Shanny, next you want
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: to come back Ash, Yeah, in another life, I want
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: to be an ice hockey rink when the team's stretching.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: That absolutely, that's my request. Yeah, please make it happen.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I'll be a good.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Girl, honestly. And I do think with the sports example,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: especially with hockey, it's bringing more women to be spectators
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: of the sport and like creating actual actual fans who
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: are now passionate, telling that maybe they wouldn't have been previously.
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: And I do think your point before is valid in
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: terms of, like, you know, if people who have been
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: a part of a fandom have been you know, made
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to feel lesser than or looked down upon, and then
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: for it to be turned around to be.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, now it's cool and now you're allowed to
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: be a fan. That's definitely frustrating.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: But with this example specifically, especially around sports, a lot
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: of the you know, resistance to it is because what
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: you're saying is it's typically male fan bases, and the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: entry of women coming into it is like, no, it's
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: not for you, which is exactly.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: What I'm saying about book tops. Yeah, but that's the thing.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: We can have complicated complixes, yeah, and also recognize maybe
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: a little bit of the immaturity or why we're resentful
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: yeah around it.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: The best thing about being a fangirl is that it
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: fucking feels.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Good, absolutely, and it's actually good.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: For your mental health. Like there is science backing why
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: we all need to be a fangirl and embracing the
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: fangirl because bonding with other people, bond bonding, bonding with
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: other people who enjoy similar things to you has a
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: positive impact on your mental health and that sense of
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: connection and belonging, which I think is so important and
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: is actually one of the silver linings and special things
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: about the Internet is that it allows you to connect
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: and belong to something even if you aren't in the
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: exact same physical space.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I think the thing that is good about being a
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: fangirl is it's not compulsory, and that is sometimes what's missed.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And I personally just feel like a lot of the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Internet is critique, whereas, like with being a fangirl, it's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: about expressing enjoyment of something and about expressing a genuine
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: like of something that you can also just not be
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: a fan of something.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: You don't have to like that. It's optional.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: You can like something or you don't like something, but
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you don't have to kind of lean into the negative
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: critique that I just think is so constant all the time.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And like there have been in studies and
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: reports as well that show that people are feeling increasingly lonely,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: so like anything that encourages that sense of community is
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: a good thing. And psychologists have also reported that being
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: a fan of sports, for example, can increase self esteem
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: and lower alienation and social isolation. And it also gives
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: that that natural high, you know, and that dopamine spike
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: when your team wins or something good.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Happens, so you're at a concert and they play like
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: a song that they haven't played in like ten years.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Even like speaking of bandwagons, like even during the Taylor
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Swift era's tour and she would do the secret songs,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'd like Taylor Swift music here and there.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I know the entire discography, but I
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: was opening up the TikTok lives to see what the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: secret songs were.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a bandwagon.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: That's a bandwagon that I reckon. I can say yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: because I was like, I want to see what the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: secret songs were, Like, this is so fun.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we went to the concert and we dressed stuff,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: but yeah, we were so exciting. But yeah, I wouldn't
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: necessarily say that we're twenty four to seven the biggest
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Swifty fans or that we're really part of that fandom.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: But in those times when it's exciting, when she yeah
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: drops a new album or a music video or or
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: announces her engagement, we're like, yes, because it's so fun
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: to just like celebrate something. And that's the thing like that,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: there is a genuine thing that happens, and it's called
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: collective effervescence. When you have that shared experience with people,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: and it's that feeling of like intense energy or harmony
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: or transcendence when you're at a concert with a bunch.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Of I just saw that SpongeBob me where it's like floating.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly how it feels when you're at a
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: concert with thousands of strangers and you're all doing the
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: same choreography or singing the same songs, or like you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: you know those moments in the concert where certain things
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: are going to happen, or even just cheering, like that
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: is a actual physical thing that happens to your body
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: that is so exciting, and like why not try and
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: chase that and embrace that?
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Agreed?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I remember years ago I was on a date with
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: someone and weird went and watched a show and during
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: the show, they were like clapping and they were going
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: like whoa, like and like really being like yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Like what And I remembering like what are you doing?
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Like I was like what, like because like not many
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: people were doing that right, And then like at the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: end of.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: The show, and then so many more people started doing
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: it and so many people being like whoa.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And it kind of like had this chain reaction that
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I was like, why can't you do that?
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Like it was it was a journey.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: At first, I was like it yet like more just
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: because I was on a date and.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I'm being like huh.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: But then like by the end of it, like I
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: completely had a different perspective, and like now it shows
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I'm always like when it's time to applaud, obviously not
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: in the middle of a monologue and I going yeah, literally, no, no, no,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do that for Europe, I should frank
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you with that. It's you know, I would be like, yeah,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: as well, you know, can we do this now? But yeah,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and so since then, like I don't really even speak
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: to this person anymore. But that had such a lasting
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: impression on me that even you would know this now,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Like when we go to shows or we go to
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: musicals and.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Then you applaud, I always stand up.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I always am like being like, yeah, like if I
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: haven't had any like botox lip flip, I'm doing the
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: big whistle if my lips, you know, sometimes I'd be like,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: oh I had lip fiel, I can't do it, but.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just even cheering and like not.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Being embarrassed to cheer for something is such a nice feeling. Yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I've been been things with my mum and she's been
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: like and I'd be like, it's fun.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: And do it, yeah, and she's like who.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: And also, if you're the person that's putting yourself out
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: there and there's somebody cheering in the crowd, like, you're
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: not gonna be like you fucking lose YEA, thank you
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: for clearly enjoying what I'm putting forward. And I think
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: that's definitely one of the most amazing things about being
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: a fan girl. But also fangirls develop literal marketable skills, yes,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: which I also don't think is spoken about enough. Like
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: the girlies who were in the one D fandom, running
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: those Twitter accounts, running the tumblers and the fan accounts
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: on Instagram. I have no doubt in my mind that
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: they are now like the heads of marketing at their companies.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: Care about.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Blakistan Yep, she who runs you should care about, which
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: is a huge media company, like started out as a
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: one D fan page.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is quite literally still a very strong
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: foundation of this incredible empire that she has built and
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: is building. Like it. That community has also fostered the
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: original social media managers and self business women and creatives and.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: It's like the backbone of the Internet at this point. Yeah,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: to be honest, literally, but.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Let's get into how to embrace the fangirl mentality because
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I think we've done a really good job of covering
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: why it's important and why it's fine, but.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: If we want to get into okay, how can we
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: do that?
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: So, Like, again, like I said before, it's can sometimes
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: be a little bit nerve racking to kind of put
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: yourself out there, because to put yourself out there in
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: your likes and wants can naturally be nerve racking to
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: because you're like.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Well, what if it's a cruel prank?
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: What if it's a casual.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Like you know, what if people make fun of me
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: for the things that I like, which is definitely something
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I had growing up reading.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Like the smutty little fairy books that I like. People
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: be like, what are you reading?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: A boo the history book on Scotland Law of Mythology Outland.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was literally just porn and I'd be like camping,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: and I'd like my mum's friend would have come and.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Be like she probably was fucking reading it.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Every Yeah, I like, literally date my mum books be
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: in like chapter seventeen enjoy I don't.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: Love that one.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: But how do we embrace the inner fan girl that
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: we all have, Like, we all have a fangirl within us,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: let her rice, so embrace the possibility.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Of building your found family.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I think one of the best things about fan girls
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: and being part of a fandom is we all know
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: how you know, we're in a loneliness epidemic, that it's
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: really hard to make.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Friends as an adult.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: So being a fangirl and including yourself and fandoms gives
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: you a unique chance to connect with other people who
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: also enjoy similar things to you. You already have something
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: to talk about regardless, and it may help you understand
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: yourself on a different level. And like these people that
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: you're you know, getting to know and learning may understand
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: you on a different level than other people in your
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: life that don't share the same interests. So it's not
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: to say it takes away from others, but like you know,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: for example, we read different books. We still talk about
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the books that we read, but we kind of read
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: different genres, right, And like I still love hearing about
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: your books, and you still love hearing about mine. There's
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: that different level that you can find friendships that also
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: are able to see and shine light onto different facets
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: of your personality and interests and so ways that you
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: can do this is joining fan forums online and following
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: fan accounts for your favorite artists, franchises.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: And series, getting involved in local hobby or social groups
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: that can help you meet people.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: A lot of them can now be found online through
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Instagram or TikTok, for example, like Sydney Girls Club or
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Cool Girls Club, and like go to events that directly
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: correlate to your interests.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: A lot of brands put these on as well.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you've hosted quite a few, yeah, yeah, So.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Like when movies are coming out or TV shows or
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: books a lot of the time, like if a book
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: is coming out, the publisher will hold an event. They
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: sometimes do like Midnight Drops and you can go to
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a local bookstore, or if shows coming out, they do
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: events about that being like, oh, viewing parties like remember
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the summer I turned pretty viewing parties Like that's incredible,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Like that looked so fun and amazing. There's even you know,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: things for musical theater people that we went to an
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: event called Club Broadway, which was in a club and
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: just played musical.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Theater music for an entire night and best club.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Honestly, it was like the first time we'd been to
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: a club. It's the first one I'd really like, Yeah,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: and it was so much let's stand. Yeah, all these
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: like album listening parties and stuff like that as well.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: And the thing about that kind of stuff as well is, yeah,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: it's really great if you do already have friends that
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: you can go along with, but so many people go
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: to those events alone, and like it should never be
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: looked down on if you go to something alone, but
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: I feel like in those spaces it's really welcomed. Yeah,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: it's a great way to meet people who are also
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: passionate about the same things that you are.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Well, we organized and meet up before our live shows
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: and a bunch of chi.
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  Speaker 4: Fan seriously, but we were.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, maybe a couple of chicks that are
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: going so they like might want to meet up and
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: make friends.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Drinky poop.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But the first time I think there was maybe like
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: twelve or fifteen, I think like a hundred people showed
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: up to one of them and I was like, I
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: was like, wow, big fun.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: It was so cute. Then we like got them feather
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: bowlers and nay tags and stuff so that we could
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: see them in the crowd and yeah yeah, and they all.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Ended up like sitting together.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and some of them like still hang out
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: and go for drinks and stuff. Love that beyond that.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it is a great way to make friends
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: and meet people with similar interests, which I love. We
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: kind of touched on this earlier. But also another way
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: that you can embrace being a fangirl is acknowledging the
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: power that a fangirl can have and some of those
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: skills that do come with it. So if you do
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: have like the inclination to start a fan account or
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: make edits, or even just like jumping in forums and
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: chatting to people, or or if there's if you're a
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: fan of something and there isn't already an existing group,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: like start something like start a Facebook group and see
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: if you can like get something going, because not only
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: is it good for that sense of belonging and friendship
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: and building community, but also you can learn real life
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: skills from doing that. There was an instagram from Zara
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Macintosh who spoke to girls who used to run some
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: of the most devoted fan accounts in the twenty ten
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: so like the one D accounts, K pop stand accounts,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: that kind of thing. And in an Instagram post on
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: her findings, she said, in this current job market, everyone
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: is expecting ten plus years of experience in your twenties,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: and these girls are some of the few that have it.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: So also can set you up with some of those
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: real life skills that could help you in the job
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: force as well.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, and I think at the end
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: of the day, the biggest thing you can also do
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: is be a big fangirl for yourself, like what are
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: the plants of your passion, and just like enjoy your
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: own Like the biggest advocate is always going to be you,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: So make sure you're also your biggest supporter. Back your likes,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: back your once being like yeah, I like it, and
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: or if someone's like, oh can you name five songs?
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Does it matter? Yeah, I like it. Don't let anyone
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: dull that enjoyment.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: And also like assume that everybody is vibing as well.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: You know, people often respond to the energy that you
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: put out first. If you put out like warmth, fun
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: fan girl vibes, and that energy is about you. The
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: law of reciprocation means that energy is more than likely
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: going to come back to you.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and like attracts like. It means you're
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: going to find.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: More people that kind of fuel that and make you
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: excited to be who you are. So yeah, big fun,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: big fun, big fun, big fun of your chicks as well,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: big fun of your chicks.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Thanks for having us in your ear holes.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: We love to be here. Everyone comment, Big fun. It's
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: spelled b ig F you h N. Big fun, big fun,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: big fun.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Love you, Love you bybe