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to the Simply Christ podcast hosted by Leon Martin, along
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with Aaron Keaton, Melvin Martin, Andrew Schrock and Dan
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Blatz. Let's get right to it.
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All right, here we are ready for another Bible study just like
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usual on a Monday night, 7:00. Well, here in Iowa it is 8:00
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for some of you early folks. All right, we're going to be in
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chapter 3 of Colossians tonight. Going to be starting in verse 5.
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But before we do that, I'll have Bellwood kick us off with a word
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of prayer. Let's pray.
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Father, we bless you tonight. We thank you that we have the
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opportunity to get together here in this way and look into Your
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Word. Father, guide us with Your Word
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for Your Spirit as we go through Your Word.
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And that your word is powerful, sharper than any 2 edged sword
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the the scriptures say. And so Father, we're going to
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stay in your word and help us to stay in context, Father.
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And that you could be edified and glorified.
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That I'm sorry we could be edified and you could be
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glorified because ultimately it's about you and it's not
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about us and what we have to say, but it's about you and your
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word and your Kingdom. We thank you for giving us your
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Son Jesus to redeem us with the blood and on the cross, and that
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we can put our faith in that and in that alone we thank you and
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glorify you in Jesus name, Amen. Amen.
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Amen. That's right.
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Yeah. So we'll get a running start
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here. But before we do that, I saw on
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Facebook that, well, Andrew Shrock, the Shrock's there in
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Ohio. They have their family camp that
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they have there or whatever they call it, I guess twice a year.
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And I saw he's doing some dirt work around there, putting in
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some pickleball courts. So Andrew, tell us about your
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event there. Yeah, it's coming right up and
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it'd be in in two weeks or a little less than two weeks if
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you want to. You want to join us for a great
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weekend of fellowship and just meet a bunch of godly families.
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That is always a good connections.
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A lot of good connections have been made through these camps
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where families that we barely know, but they know families
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that they met maybe in their area that they didn't know
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existed. And now they're they're back and
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forth. They have this fellowship.
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It's it's way I'm finding out it's way bigger than just people
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meeting here and having a great time.
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People meet each other here and then all of a sudden they're
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doing stuff where they're at and they're hanging out and finding
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out that there's a lot more like minded people around them than
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they realize. But for what we're doing here is
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just we're having time of just great fellowship.
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And I think we have 4 sessions of teaching and a lot of sitting
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around doing fellow shaping and getting to know each other.
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And also there's a lot of activities for the young people
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and also older people. So we put in a pickleball court,
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A2A double. So it it's, it makes for a great
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time of getting to know each other.
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If you don't, if you're, you want to get to know a young
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person, play a comparative game of volleyball or pickleball and
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you get to know if his he has his body in subjection or not.
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So we, we. So yeah, I people from all over
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the states join us and we have a great time.
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I don't know what else to say except I think you're missing
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out it don't join some of these. Yeah, it's it's a great time.
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There's basketball, there's volleyball, there's a water
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slide, there's going to be pickleball.
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I think there's, what do you call that disc golf baskets
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around there maybe too. But.
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Water slide didn't what's that? The water slide just you
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mentioned the water slide that has become a hit man for these
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kids. There's so many families that
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talk about where they go to events, but there's just really
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nothing for the 234510 year olds like a 2 year old.
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You should see their faces light up when they get on that water
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slide. I mean, it's just they jump out
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of the bottom of that thing and they just one bee line back up
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that hill. It's way more work than they
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would ever do working. But man, they just it's a steep
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hill and as soon as they're out at the bottom, some of them are
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already getting up before they stop to jump out to run back up
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the dude again. I mean, just on and on and on.
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So bringing up the water slide, I forgot that that, but that is
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very family friendly. And then there's the gaca ball.
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That's what they like. So there's activities for the
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very little ones and then there's a youth activities that
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the teenagers are gonna do. That flag thing again, I don't
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know if you're familiar with it. I'm not don't know enough about
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it to really say too much about it.
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But it's, I think four teams that team up with the young
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people and they have difficult challenges to overcome.
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They have to find they have to find hidden messages and they
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have to then interpret the message and find where the next
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clue. They find the clues and then
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that takes them to the to the next clue.
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And all four teams have to different clues to take them to
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this once final mystery where they're getting to.
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Well, whichever team wins, they get this great flag and it's a
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big deal. So that's where the youth and
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then there's also a race where they're running like AI, think
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it's like AI don't know how many.
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What do you see? Say they're like a 3K or
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whatever it is. Or 5K, Yeah.
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Yeah, a lot of stuff. Almost stuff.
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One thing that one thing that I really enjoyed about your camp,
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Andrew, is that it's not packed full of sessions and stuff where
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like there's plenty of time to fellowship and be able to visit
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with people and just organically things happen, you know, I,
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that's what I appreciate about. But some places you go, it's
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just like, you know, they have session after session that
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you're sitting in sessions all the time.
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And that's what I like about yours.
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It's more open, more family friendly.
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Yeah. We've been talking about it
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like, man, are we cramming too much stuff where it kind of
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takes that relaxing away 'cause I enjoy sitting down and
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fellowshipping with people and that's available.
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That's there for you to do. You don't have to participate in
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all the activities. If you would participate in all
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of the activities, you wouldn't have any relaxing.
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It's a lot of stuff planned. Where did that scoop noodle
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thing that that Leon started over there?
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That's contagious now. So now everybody's got to do it
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over here too now. So we got to do scooping.
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Oh, that's good. So.
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And, and, and the new one is we're doing 30 minutes before
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each session. One of the families from church
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really thought this would help a lot of young people and just
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people in general is they want at before each session a couple
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to share how they met and the whole thing, their little love
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story there. So again, it's just something
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that for those that are interested, it's no pressure for
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anyone to that's it like to be there, but just available for
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those that want. There you go.
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Sounds good. Stephanie.
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You can put the link to Andrew's website or the registration
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form, Facebook, whatever there it is in the comments.
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So if you want to register, there's usually a couple 300
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people there. So good time.
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Central Ohio kind of would be the location close.
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You can click that link and see the details there.
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All righty, thanks for that, Andrew.
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It's been a real blessing for us.
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We've been there many times and the kids always look forward to
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it as their parents do as well. All right, chapter 3,
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Colossians, let's get in the word.
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Verse 5 says mortify. Therefore, your members which
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are upon the earth, fornication, uncleanness, inordinate
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affection, evil, concupiscence and covetousness, which is
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idolatry, for which things sake the wrath of God cometh on the
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children of disobedience in the which ye also walked sometime
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when ye lived in them. That is the full sentence.
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You can comment on just verse 5 Dad, if you want, but we were
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talking a little bit before, but a lot of people will read this
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mortify as put to death. But if you if you are critical
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of the context here, you will notice that 2 verses prior to
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this in verse three, he said for ye are dead.
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So let's talk to our listeners about what that it what how that
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could be that we are called dead and yet he calls us to mortify
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therefore our members which are upon the earth and we didn't
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script this. This is I'm I'm looking forward
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to hearing each one of uses. Idea of how that goes?
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Yeah, so the context of Colossians in chapter 2 in
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particular, he told us not to allow philosophy or vain deceit
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to rob us, to cheat us of our reward, voluntary humility and
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neglecting of the body, a touch, not taste, not handle, not style
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of Christianity. So the the idea even behind
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false teaching like that is how do we stop sinning?
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How do we stop giving into this body of flesh?
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Some would respond to the criticism of the touch, not
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taste, not handle, not concept and then say we don't need to
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worry about what we touch or what we taste or what we handle.
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That should even be our concern. We're we're free.
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We are, you know, spirit filled as we can do whatever we want.
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All things are lawful and they have that mentality where they
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use the grace of God as Lasilia, as the book of Jude warns
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against and here he's teaching us now.
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So if we're not supposed to live based on a touch, not taste, not
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handle, not type of Christianity, if we're not using
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principle based concepts to control our flesh and to neglect
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this the drives of the flesh, how then do we as Christians, we
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claim that we have superior teaching, How then do we walk
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free from the lust of the flesh? Cause clearly we ought not to be
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walking after the flesh. And so he gives us the theology
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behind why we're free and how we're free.
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He tells us a truth about us that seems contradictory to our
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life, to our existence, to our realities.
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This concept, like he explains in Romans chapter 6 very
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extensively here he just touches on it a little bit.
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He says if you're risen with Christ, then seek those things
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which are above. Why as though living in the
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world are you subject to ordinance?
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He said in the previous verse, this set your affection on
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things above where Christ is. Seek out the right hand of God,
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for ye are dead. So this is this is the starting
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point of freedom from sin. Some people don't like it
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because it doesn't give them something to do.
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And so when it gets to this mortify, people jump on that
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because it feels like, ah, here we go now I can do something.
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And instead of reveling in and enjoying the grace of God and
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the freedom of sin that we have through Christ, they turn verse
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5 right back into Colossians 2 and touch not, taste not, handle
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not. And they do it by trying to put
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to death their own body, when the context has been abundantly
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clear. For ye are dead, and your life
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is hid with Christ and God. Start there.
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Recognize that your body and all of its drives and lusts.
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We talked about this so many times already.
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Galatians says that our flesh with its affections and lusts
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has been crucified. And so start at that point, if
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you're understanding that concept, I have been crucified,
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I was baptized into him, I was buried with him, I was raised
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with him. I'm seated together with Christ
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in heavenly places. So when it says mortify,
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therefore your members, what's he saying?
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Is he telling us like all the modern translations would say,
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put to death, therefore your members?
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I can understand the desire because let's say a temptation
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to lust comes along and you want that thing to be dead.
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But instead of reckoning like Romans 6 says, reckoning, hey,
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my body is dead. The members have been crucified
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and its affections and lusts have been crucified.
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Instead it feels like, OK, then here's something I can do.
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I can fight against it. I can fast, I can pray, I can
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cold shower. I can do all these things to put
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to death my members when the text says clear, clearly mortify
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the way that you would treat a dead body.
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Like my hand is no longer alive to stealing.
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My eyes are no longer alive to lusting.
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I'm going to treat them as a mortician might treat them.
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I'm not going to be putting things to death in the morgue.
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I'm going to be dealing with something that's already dead
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and gone. So much more can be said.
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There's a couple passages that I know Melvin, I mean Leanne had
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already mentioned two different places where this word is
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translated from, but I'm sure the other guys will likely
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mention those. Edra.
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Yeah, this is, like you already said, a place where we finally
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feel like we get guidance of how to subdue this whole body and
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how to justify our evil actions. You know, I just didn't die
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enough today. I need to work on that.
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And that's not what he's saying. But he he is telling you what to
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do, though. He is telling you something that
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you can do. And that is to based on the fact
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that your reality in the spiritual realm in heavenly
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places is that you're there by faith and the old man is
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circumcised off of you. It's dead, it's cut off, it's
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buried, it's gone and it's destroyed.
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The body of sin is destroyed by the death of Jesus Christ.
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When Christ died, we died with him.
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And that destroyed the body, this flesh of sin, it destroyed
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it. And based on that reality and
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that authority, he's saying we're free from sin.
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We're dead to sin and now we have something that is better
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than the law. Remember the law was weak.
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It couldn't make the commerce perfect.
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It fell short. Now he's saying we have
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something that didn't fall short.
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There's someone that without spot was offered to God and he
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perfected forever them that are sanctified.
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And in perfecting us, He also dealt with this old man, the
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flesh. Well, now he's telling us, if
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you want to do something, believe that.
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Believe that you are dead. When sin pops up, don't allow
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it. Neutralize it based on the
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authority that you are dead. So it's like kill it with the
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authority of being dead. It makes sense, it sounds
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contradictory, but it's not. If, how could I say this?
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The only reason that we're still allowing sin in our lives is
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because we don't. We're not living and believing
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the authority and the reality that's happened on the cross
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2000 years ago, and instead we're always trying to get Jesus
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Christ to stand up. You don't remember how many sat
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down on the right hand of God. It's because it was done.
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A full victory was done to reconcile us back to God and to
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seat us in heavenly places and He crucified the flesh.
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It's done the challenge for us until the day of redemption,
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until we will be changed like First Corinthians 15 says, we
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will all be changed in the moment, in the twinkly of an
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eye. But until then, we can be
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changed according to our faith. And that's the challenge we
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don't like. We don't.
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We want God to just do something.
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Well, he already did something and asking us to believe it.
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And the more we believe it, the more that you believe that you
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are dead when sin, when temptation pops up and you're
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wanting to have a bad attitude. He lists a whole list of sins
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there, and we like to just pick them out and.
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Go, oh, I don't do that. I'm not going to do that and I'm
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going to put myself the desk to that, but I've learned that it's
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way deeper than that. The law was trying to deal with
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individual like what we call the big sense.
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But I'm telling you, when you're led by the spread and you have
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the love of God and the appreciation of Jesus Christ in
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you, you nail down these bad negative attitudes in the
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family. You don't allow it.
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In my family, there's more disciplines when it comes to
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attitude than anything. Their perspective, the way they
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think, the way they respond to their siblings, the way like how
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they. Yeah, their attitude, if they're
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negative, if they're there's downcast or beat up.
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We don't do this belittling thing.
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All things that are not lost, that are not written and why am
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I saying this is to help us understand that being
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spiritually minded and led by the Spirit is far greater than
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some law. And that is what Jesus Christ is
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trying to tell us is that the old man, the flesh is done away.
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Walk in the Spirit and be this new creature, this heavenly
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mindset, this guy that sets his affections and thinks about
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things that are pure. If there's any good thing to
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think on, think of those things that are pure.
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Think of the things that are. Just don't allow this negative
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atmosphere in your home that will destroy families.
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It's just not good. Yes, Don't lie, don't steal,
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don't kill, don't do all these things, all the sins that were
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listed there. You are free from it, but I
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don't want to focus in on I see so many Christian families
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wondering why their kids are there's no joy in there and
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there's no happiness in the families because you allow a
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whole bunch of this negative beat down atmosphere in your
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home and it's just not edifying. You're all miserable and you
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just think more complaining it's going to somehow make it better
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No and somebody needs to just stand up and say that's it.
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We're not having this negative attitude and if I see that
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coming again, there's going to be consequences.
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We're we're going to be families that won't tolerate this
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negative, belittling, shaming, none of that.
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We're going to walk in the victory.
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That doesn't mean that one you. I also don't like this idea of
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like, oh, your kids can't do anything wrong.
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Like, oh, you're so sweet. You try.
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I mean, call something good that is not good.
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I'm brutally honest with my family where people will be
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like, oh man, that guy's just rude.
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But you know what? This world is rough and I want
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my kids to be able to go wherever they go and if they
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don't perform, they know that they're going to have
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consequences. If they get old and they go work
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for somebody and they don't do it the way they're supposed to,
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they're going to get yelled at. Why can't I train them that way
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right now that not by yet. I'm not yelling at them, but
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let's train up our children in a way that is when they go work
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for somebody, they go like, man, where can we can find more kids
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like this? And it's.
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Possible when we believe the gospel, when we believe that we
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are dead to all sin and we don't have this works minded mindset
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where we're picking and choosing these little sins and then say,
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oh, we're going to attack this one.
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I don't know. I'll be going.
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It's. A good path.
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You're all though Velvet well. To me, there's there's a couple
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issues that come into play when we look at these verses like
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this and we try and say that we're going to have to somehow
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dead in our flesh or kill or mortify our flesh that we have
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to do that because there's one of the issues is, is this is
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that how do you know if you're dead?
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Like how do you know when you when you're trying to mortify or
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trying to kill your flesh or be dead to whatever it is lost or
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whatever you're dealing with, How do you know when you're
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dead? Are you going to check your
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pulse or I mean, how do you know?
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Well, Christ already has done this for us, right?
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And so to me, it's much safer to reckon ourselves or to believe
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that by faith, like you were saying, Andrew, it, it's a faith
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issue, right? And so another thing that came
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to my mind that if we're trying to kill ourselves, that's like
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suicide, right? I mean, why are you, why are you
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trying to somehow dead in your flesh?
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And so there's 2 verses or a few verses I would like to read that
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really kind of point this out. Because the simple fact is, is
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that if we think that we have to somehow put our flesh to death,
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that we have to do that, then all these verses don't mean
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anything. Like in Romans 66 where he says,
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knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him and that
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the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we
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should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed
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from sin. So a verse like that, it can't
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be true, right? If I think I have to somehow
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mortify my flesh or or or make it dead, when indeed Christ has
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done that for us, and then 813. I like what it says there.
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Romans 813 it says, For if we live after the flesh, ye shall
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die, but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of
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the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the
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Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
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So if we are believing in the finished work of Christ and that
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Christ has indeed we are crucified with Christ, if we
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believe that, then we are actually being led by the
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Spirit, right? And but that's the whole issue I
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guess that I see is that it's just whether we're walking in
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the Spirit or we're walking in the flesh or we're walking by
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faith. Not necessarily that I'm trying
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to somehow kill my flesh or mortify my flesh somehow,
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because that already has been done obviously.
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Or the verses that we read previously in the three and four
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two chat or two verses back would not be true either.
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So yeah, yeah, that's that's right.
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Dan mentioned a couple other verses that I don't know if this
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will bless everybody, but for somebody that's that likes the
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words at the meeting of them. If you look at the the Greek
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word that this word mortify was it was derived from the Greek
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word is necru and it is used three times in the Bible and the
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other two times the phrase that it that they used when they
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selected the English word to use use is now dead.
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And that's in Romans 419 says, and being not weak in faith, he
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considered that not his own body now dead when he was 100 years
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old. And the other one is in Hebrews
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11/12 where it says therefore sprang there even of 1 and him
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talking about Abraham as well and him as good as dead.
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And those are the, those are the only three places that this
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Greek word is used. And then the third place of
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course is here in Colossians where it's uses the word
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mortified. So you could deduct even by
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those two, both of those are a past tense death, you know what
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I mean? So I, I think it's pretty clear
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that it that it's not asking us to put to death, it is asking us
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to render useless that which has been put to death, right.
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In other words, count it useless.
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Don't, don't. We're.
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Looking to those members for the strength to overcome this sin.
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Don't go there because that's not where your victory is.
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The victory lies in the blood of Jesus and his promise to us
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through Christ. That's where the victory is.
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Yeah. I just.
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I just thought that was interesting that that it's not.
25:32
It's clearly not put to death, which is what almost everybody
25:36
would treat it as, yeah. You said that really well.
25:41
Go ahead. Yeah, that was very well.
25:46
Yeah, that was the that was I think you hit the I think you
25:49
hit the thing that is the confusion.
25:52
You cleared it up. I don't know if you meant to do
25:53
that, but that was really good is to count it useless.
25:57
That's what it's saying like follow through with the idea
26:01
that you're dead. Follow through with it.
26:03
Act on that, act on it. Don't just say it or whatever.
26:09
Don't try to die. No act on that deadness.
26:12
Like when when the thing wants to pop up and you act on it
26:16
like, no, I'm dead to that. I'm free from it.
26:18
Jesus Christ made me free from it.
26:20
You're acting on it. And I would just like I was just
26:23
going to say it one more thing. Most people will then ask
26:27
questions like, well, does this work for you?
26:29
So you're saying you don't sin anymore.
26:33
I'm ready to say that's besides, why do you ask?
26:36
You have a better plan. You just are looking for ways
26:39
and disagree with God like this is God's plan.
26:44
If you want to try something else, go for it.
26:46
But you will not be doing it God's way and you will not be
26:49
following God's wisdom. It'll be man's wisdom and your
26:53
own at that point. But no, go knock yourself out.
26:55
God is like that. He will let you go do something
26:58
stupid. But if you want to do it God's
27:01
way, believe that you're dead. I think probably where a lot of
27:05
the confusion comes in is a failure to recognize flesh as
27:09
flesh and members as part of the flesh, because this book, this
27:13
passage here says that our members ought to be mortified.
27:17
And so we look at our members, and members in the Bible are
27:21
always hands, nose, mouth, you know, sex organs.
27:24
Those are our members. And they are clearly when we
27:27
look at them, everybody knows they're not dead.
27:29
And so then they reinterpret all the dead passages as something
27:33
alternative. It's not the flesh, it's some
27:36
spiritual reality. So based on your spiritual
27:40
death, now you need to try to apply it to physical realities
27:44
and pretend or act like or try to put to death like the spirits
27:48
been put to death like this. It gets a really jumbled mess.
27:51
But we've gone through all the passages so we don't need to
27:53
reiterate them. And, and Melvin just read some
27:55
of them again, knowing this, that our old man is crucified,
27:59
that the body of sin might be destroyed, that you shouldn't
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live after the flesh, flesh body of sin, old man, it's all one in
28:05
the same. And so your members are the
28:08
things that want to lead you back into sin, the things that
28:11
you want to touch, that you want to taste, that you want to put
28:14
in your mouth, that you want to, you know, copulate with all
28:17
those things are our members and now we're supposed to treat them
28:21
as render them as useless. And I think again, we're one of
28:26
the confusing things comes in and Melvin quoted this too is
28:29
Romans 813 where it says mortify the deeds of the body.
28:33
That's a different Greek word. And if you look other places
28:36
where it's translated like Matthew 10/21, it says be put to
28:42
death. And so they feel like it's a
28:44
valid interpretation of valid translation to be rendered or to
28:48
be put to death. And I was telling Leon this
28:51
before. In German, the Greek, the the
28:54
word for murder or kill is mort. And in English we get our word
29:00
murder from that same root word. So there is some valid reasoning
29:05
behind mortifying something is to like render it useless,
29:08
render it dead, to put it to nothing.
29:11
And so there is that concept. But within the context both in
29:15
Romans 8 he and here in Colossians 2 and Romans 6, he's
29:18
telling us the body has been dead, has been crucified, is
29:23
dead now, therefore now treating.
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I think the reason why King James translators use the word
29:29
mortify was for that exact reason.
29:31
So when your members hands, nose, mouth, sex organs want to
29:35
do things contrary to the spirit, render them useless,
29:39
treat them as good as dead, right?
29:42
Like we have the exact opposite challenge of what Abraham had.
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Abraham felt dead, his body was as good as dead and he was
29:49
supposed to count it alive and able to produce seed.
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We have a a live body ready and willing to sin and we're
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supposed to count it as dead and unable to sin.
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Slaves to to righteousness, right?
30:01
So the concept is the same. Count something the opposite of
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what it is. That's right.
30:07
Amen. I like that.
30:08
That's, that's a good point. I think that's good, Dan.
30:11
Oh, that, that's really good. Another thing, another thing I
30:15
would like to, I just got one more thing.
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I would like to say that a question is, do you really want
30:23
the responsibility of putting off the old man?
30:27
Is that what you want? Like do you think that that's
30:30
going to work out for you? Like you want to go to heaven
30:34
and go to God and say, you know what?
30:36
I put off the old man. You're going to go up there and
30:39
disagree with him right in his face and say, I put off the old
30:43
man just like you told me. And then God's going to have to
30:46
say, you know what? Actually, I did that.
30:48
You know, I put off the old man. I crucified.
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I'm the one that died. You didn't die.
30:54
Do you really want that responsibility?
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Think about when you stop and think about it, you don't want
30:58
that responsibility. Stop bragging about it like you
31:00
can do this and that. You're going to.
31:02
It's such a spiritual, godly thing.
31:04
It's actually quite arrogant, yeah.
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That's right. All right.
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So verse 6 we haven't. Yeah, I was just going to say we
31:16
haven't touched any of the actual sins yet, right?
31:19
Fornication, uncleanness and all that.
31:22
Yeah, is is anyone want to talk about any of that or the
31:25
remainder of this sentence which would be verse six and seven for
31:30
which things sake the wrath of God cometh all the children of
31:32
disobedience in the which he also walked sometime when you
31:37
lived in them. Yeah, that any other?
31:40
I think it it is well worth our time probably to just expand and
31:44
expound on some of these particular sins.
31:47
Fornication is a like a junk drawer for all types of sexually
31:52
illicit sins. Anything that says outside of
31:54
the covenant of marriage, if you're using your members for
31:58
sex with your eyes or with your body parts, you are in
32:02
fornication apart from the the sanctified redeemed covenant of
32:09
marriage, right? That's where fornication is, is
32:12
completely. I mean, it's not fornication
32:14
then. So fornication includes all of
32:16
that premarital sex and pornography and the masturbation
32:19
seems to fit in there and adultery and the list goes on.
32:22
And uncleanness seems like it's an expansion of that same type
32:26
of sin, right? It's still this illicit sexual
32:30
use a lot of times or uncleanness was in in reference
32:33
to idol worship in the Old Testament, which and then
32:39
inordinate affection. I wouldn't mind hearing from
32:41
Andrew. I know last time he expanded on
32:43
an inordinate affection a fair bit already.
32:48
Yeah. Go ahead, Andrew, with any
32:50
thoughts on it. Yeah, I also wanted to talk
32:54
about fornication. In the Bible, he uses the word
32:57
fornication in the light of sexual immorality, but he also
33:02
uses it as far as children of Israel go on a horn after other
33:07
gods, after other leaders, after other things.
33:11
And he calls it fornication that they're fornicating their their
33:14
fornication just kept rising up and to the point where God's
33:18
anger and wrath was well over. So I think that's what he's
33:22
saying. Like you were at one point the
33:25
children that experienced the wrath of God in all their
33:30
uncleanness and their fornication going after other
33:33
gods. You were that.
33:35
Why are you now? You're acting like those that
33:39
you were, you know, act your age.
33:45
You've been redeemed, you've been crucified.
33:48
You've been made free from sin. Put this away.
33:51
You were darkness. You're now light.
33:54
Walk as children of light. Stop still representing your
33:58
past. Stop still representing unbelief
34:02
represent belief, faith in God and have a change life.
34:07
Don't be enticed with uncleanness, but you're no
34:09
longer in that camp. You're no longer in the camp of
34:13
darkness. Walk in who you are now
34:16
righteousness. Stop living the old life you
34:19
were that you're not now and he's not telling.
34:23
He's not losing confidence in the finished work of Jesus
34:25
Christ here. Many people will teach it in
34:28
that way of like you know what we're all reading.
34:30
Isn't that good news? But look here, it's time we deal
34:34
with sin. You know what he's saying when
34:36
you're just acting out of character when you're sinning as
34:39
a believer. It doesn't make sense and you're
34:42
doing the thing that the wrath of God comes on the children of
34:46
disobedience. You were that don't do it now
34:49
and for an occasion and uncleanness and in order and
34:52
affection you can have. I don't know.
34:55
There's, you know, there's such a broad blanket like in order
34:59
and affection. Homosexuality is a strong
35:05
inordinate affection. It's out of order.
35:08
It's it's horrible child children.
35:13
Like pedophilia is inordinate affection to its highest level,
35:21
to the point where God says if somebody does that, the best
35:26
thing to do a rope and a brick and some water, that'll take
35:31
care of that problem. And I think we need to do that
35:33
again. I think that should be the
35:35
American law, that if you mess with a child, you get dunked and
35:40
you don't come back, you become shark food.
35:43
And the, the reason is, is that we have all these bad marriages.
35:47
Why? Because these children were
35:49
molested when they were young and now they're married and they
35:53
hate their spouse because to them they're reliving rape every
35:58
time he wants to Make Love. That hate that they have towards
36:02
their predator gets turned right directly to their spouse and
36:06
it's hell on earth for that couple.
36:09
And it's we we have to be get more vocal about this.
36:15
We don't like to talk about these inordinate, unclean,
36:18
secret sexual immorality that happens with children in these,
36:22
some of these very conservative, religious and everywhere.
36:26
It's just happening and we have to speak out about it.
36:30
It has to be addressed because it's not doing us any favors.
36:33
Those people need to be imprisoned, which is the highest
36:36
level you can do in America without going to jail.
36:39
I'm pretty sure if I would find a pedophile in the act and I'd
36:41
go drown him, I'd probably go to jail.
36:43
So I don't want to do that. I don't want to go to jail, but
36:45
that's what needs to happen. But the best we can do is get
36:48
him locked up and when that needs to happen.
36:51
I was just talking today about a guy.
36:54
She hates him when it comes to sex.
36:57
She can't do it and she was molested when she was young.
37:02
If you've been molested, deal with it before you get married.
37:08
Get your victory and become clean in Christ Jesus.
37:11
Believe that you're circumcised with the circumcision made out
37:14
mate without hands. You feel unclean, you feel
37:17
scared, you feel violated. That old body was cut off and is
37:23
buried in the sea. It's like in a dead Egyptian.
37:27
And you can view yourself clean, perfect, purified, unblameable,
37:32
unreprovable before God. That's God's view of you as a
37:36
believer. Stop feeling dirty, stop feeling
37:40
unclean, and embrace your husband if you're married.
37:44
If you're not married, get a grip before you.
37:46
Don't. Don't lie about it.
37:49
Don't withhold it. It destroys families.
37:52
I know that's kind of off topic, but it's such a thing that we
37:56
don't talk about and it's just a whole list of this sins is get
38:02
get a grip that you are now light.
38:04
The victory is 1. You are dead.
38:06
Put these off. Don't act like you did prior.
38:11
Yeah, that's right, says evil concupiscence.
38:16
That basically just means more of the same kind of what you
38:19
were already saying just, you know, unlawful or irregular,
38:24
irregular desire of sexual pleasure.
38:28
Looked it up. That's you know, so it fits
38:30
right along with that. Then course covetousness, that
38:33
could be a sexual as well. I think it's broader than that
38:36
in general, but definitely, definitely includes that.
38:42
All of which is idolatry. And so it's, it's a serious
38:47
thing and it's not something that, you know, it lists these
38:51
things here. The context isn't to point out
38:53
these sins necessarily. The context is on how we would
38:56
overcome these sins. You know, that that's what he,
39:00
what he's talking about is how that we escape these, that these
39:03
sins. That's what he's talking about.
39:07
But he's asking us. To put how far do you want to go
39:08
with this? Oh, sorry, how far do you want
39:11
to go with this in order and affection thing?
39:14
I I would go as far as to say it's when you're married and
39:18
your wife has to have these lady meeting things.
39:21
That's an inorder affection. When she needs a support group
39:24
of women to be her to go out and to have to somehow cope with her
39:29
family. She needs that if she needs that
39:33
woman of like that. There's these women's power
39:38
empowerment groups. There's these things that, you
39:40
know, the women just think they need each other in order to cope
39:42
with their family. That's an inordinate affection
39:45
in my mind. I know that it's going to step
39:47
up a lot of toes, but you need to be resolved in the finished
39:51
work of Jesus Christ and your husband.
39:54
Anything out of that I think is an inordinate affection because
39:59
you think it's pure and innocent and it's helping your marriage
40:01
and stuff, but it's I don't think it is.
40:04
You're getting emotional support, emotional, you're
40:07
drawing out emotional and a mindset from these groups away
40:12
from your husband. He's not there and you bring
40:16
that home and your family. It's it's not it's not good.
40:20
And the same way with men like the guys have these have these
40:23
guy things. I just don't do it.
40:25
I it's me and my wife. We're one and it's me and my
40:30
wife and Jesus Christ and the church.
40:32
And I don't know what more I need.
40:34
Like if I need to be influenced by some other men to somehow
40:38
figure out I, I feel like there's a lot more problems.
40:41
So I think a lot of those little group things are not really
40:45
helping us. I think it's another form of
40:47
that inordinate affection where you're not resolved in your
40:51
family. Now you can shoot that down if
40:54
you want, or balance it out or balance it out, you know.
41:03
Mel would go ahead with what if you had it resolved, Yeah.
41:07
Dan is speaking. I think, yeah, Dan.
41:09
You go ahead, Melvin. All right, I, I was just
41:13
thinking about that, that, yeah, I, I agree what you're saying to
41:16
some degree, Andrew, I would say that I think depends on
41:21
obviously the context. I mean, so I think of maybe like
41:25
a verse that comes to my mind is a verse where it talks about,
41:29
you know, iron sharpening iron, I think where men have the
41:37
ability to sharpen one another, where I don't know that your
41:42
wife can sharpen you in that way.
41:44
And so I guess that'd be one of the things that comes to my mind
41:47
that I would kind of push back on something like that.
41:49
But I think where there is a group like of men or women,
41:54
where in that group? If you are.
41:58
Talking about your wife in a negative way or your husband any
42:03
negative way, then that is a problem in my mind.
42:07
And that's not the way it should be because men shouldn't be
42:12
getting together and, you know, crying on each other's shoulders
42:15
about their wives necessarily or women vice versa.
42:21
But I do think I don't know if they, if we could put all of
42:25
that in that same box, I guess is kind of the pushback I would
42:30
put on that. I, I, I don't know, but that's
42:33
just my thought on it. Deb very valid.
42:37
I was going to say that this whole list of sins, fornication,
42:41
uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil, concupiscence,
42:45
they all seem to be trending towards this debauched,
42:49
irregular, disorderly, disorderly, immoderate way of
42:54
using their drives and their lusts.
42:56
So not limited to certain rules or regulations, just doing
43:00
whatever I want. Unusual, you know, no usual
43:03
bounds, no way of stopping something, excessive drive for
43:07
things that are not allowed. I saw a one definition.
43:10
Romans 126 says vile affections. Even their women did change the
43:16
natural use. You know, like that's a vile
43:18
affection. That's a disordered way of
43:20
thinking. That's not the way that your
43:22
body was made to be. It's an inordinate affection and
43:26
it's there's another one that says that a little bit of quote
43:31
it now without natural affection, Paul says and
43:34
Timothy, I believe so that one to me is much more where women
43:37
don't have a lot of the natural affection they should have to
43:40
their husband and to their children, but they'll go out and
43:42
be affectionate with their sisters groups and their Bible
43:45
study groups. I totally understand that.
43:47
But to me the context here is probably a little bit more in
43:50
the vein of this illicit Dr. and and misuse of your bodily
43:55
functions and things like that, right?
43:57
But. I guess one of the things that
43:59
would give you that clue and that kind of stood out to me was
44:02
on the end there of our six where it says which is idolatry.
44:08
And so in my mind, like if something is idolatry, it's
44:12
something that you're putting in front of God or in front of
44:16
Jesus. And so it's pretty extreme,
44:19
right? I mean, but it, it, it just that
44:23
just really stood out to me that these things are actually
44:27
considered as idolatry. I noticed both of you, Melvin
44:31
and Leon, both said that all of these things are adultery.
44:34
I've always just connected idolatry to the last one.
44:37
Covetousness, because covetousness is is almost like
44:40
worshipping something, right? Wanting something you don't
44:43
have, longing for that thing. But are you guys saying that all
44:47
of those things together are all covet, are all idolatry?
44:50
Or is it just covetousness which is idolatry?
44:54
I would have put it in as one, I guess, but I guess that's just
45:01
what I would not because in my mind, like fornication and
45:06
inordinate affection and evil concussions is if it is a deep
45:11
sexual desire or, you know, outside of marriage and and
45:15
outside of the context of marriage, then it's like, in
45:19
other words, it's almost like idolatry in my mind.
45:21
But that's a I'm going to have to think about that when I would
45:24
have lumped it all together, I guess, in my mind.
45:28
But. Yeah, that, that's a good
45:30
question because if you read the, if you read it the way it
45:33
says, it says which is, which is singular idolatry.
45:39
So if it would be all of them, it would say which are idolatry.
45:43
I think, you know, so, so textual textually, yes, in a
45:50
sense, I guess. And I said it that, that, you
45:54
know, it comes under the flies, under the flag of idolatry.
45:57
I I'm kind of with Melvin on that.
45:59
You know, I would, I would almost put it, put them all in
46:01
there to some degree because you're, you're discounting
46:06
Christ and your accounting, your natural affections, you know, so
46:09
it's the sin itself is something that you're chasing rather than
46:14
Christ. But yeah, that's a stretch as
46:16
far as the actual text goes. Yep.
46:19
And thanks for bringing that out, Dad.
46:21
I appreciate that. So I got more thoughts on what I
46:26
was trying to say earlier about the groups.
46:29
There's clearly a place for the women, elderly women to teach
46:32
the younger and the men. Like we got our role models.
46:36
I don't want to knock that. It was just really annoying me
46:39
and it would fall, I think, in the in the category of what you
46:42
guys are saying here is if my wife was constantly texting and
46:46
like, who you texting? Oh, there's this guy that he
46:48
means like we're just friends, but he he has he helps me a lot
46:54
and you know, he kind of, you know, the opposite sex and also
46:58
women like they're just constantly texting and texting
47:00
and texting and they get emotionally involved.
47:04
That's kind of what I'm I see that happening a lot.
47:06
Well, so and so said this and when are you going to Take Me
47:09
Out for some flowers? This guy just did that and man,
47:13
it was just so sweet and they try to guilt trip you into doing
47:16
what other people did. That's I think that form of
47:20
inorgan affection and idolatry because she's texting like even
47:25
the young people, I don't think it's healthy for the young
47:28
people to be constantly texting the opposite sex.
47:32
You say it's innocent. Most of the young people say
47:34
it's innocent, but I don't care who you are, if you're a male or
47:38
a female, you got a text from the opposite sex and some chick
47:42
or some dude. If you're a girl or whatever,
47:44
there's something that goes on in your emotions that it's not
47:49
quite innocent. Maybe it's something that you
47:51
can enjoy while you're single. To a certain extent.
47:54
I get that, but there's a lot of baggage and bondage that I just
47:59
want to put my finger on there. That will carry in a lot of
48:02
times into marriage unless you really address it.
48:05
Then if you're just so comfortable communicating and
48:08
texting and having these relationships with all these
48:12
people opposite sex while you're single, and then also carry that
48:17
into your marriage, I think it's it's a form of idolatry.
48:21
And that's kind of what I was trying to say.
48:22
Yeah, I thought. Yeah, go, go ahead.
48:27
Sorry, this whole idea of covetousness and worship.
48:31
There's a a very famous or fairly famous American
48:35
University professor, His name was David Foster Wallace.
48:38
He is apparently passed away now.
48:39
He's like borderline genius, maybe a very, very smart guy.
48:43
He eventually killed himself. But he said this in the
48:46
day-to-day trenches of adult life.
48:48
There is actually no such thing as atheism.
48:51
And this guy was someone who did not believe in God.
48:53
It wasn't a Christian. He said there is no such thing
48:55
as not worshipping. If you're on on Instagram and
48:59
you're on the Internet looking at homes and cars and trucks and
49:02
planes and farms and whatever else, you're worshipping
49:05
something. You're coveting something.
49:07
So coveting wanting is like worship, He said.
49:09
There is no such thing as we're not worshipping.
49:11
Everybody worships. The only choice we get is what
49:15
to worship and the compelling reason for maybe choosing some
49:18
sort of God or spiritual type thing to worship, whether it's
49:22
Jesus Christ or Allah or Yahweh or the Wiccan Mother goddess or
49:25
the four Noble truths or some inviolable set of ethical
49:28
principles is pretty much anything else you worship will
49:31
eat you alive. He said if you worship money and
49:34
things, if they are what you take tap meaning in life from
49:38
then you will never have enough. You'll never feel like you have
49:41
enough. It's the truth.
49:42
Worship your body and beauty and sexual lure and you will always
49:46
feel ugly. And when time and age starts
49:48
showing, you would die a million deaths before they finally
49:51
grieve you. And so he when he says that
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coveting is like worshipping, like idolatry, It's not.
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It's not a stretch like we think our society is free from idol
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worship, like we don't bow down to Fail or or Asherah, but we do
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like the same spirits are still at work in our world today as
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what we're in the world back then that offered their children
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the sacrifices and different things.
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Those same things are happening in our society today.
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And when you're living a covetous life, you're idolatry,
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you're idolatrous, you're worshipping some other gods, and
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so you're worshiping all the time.
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Where is your worship going towards, right?
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Whether you're an atheist or not, whether you're a Christian
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or a religious person or not, you are worshiping something.
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And if you're living an idolatry or a covetous life, you are
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living an idolatrous life. Yeah, First Corinthians 12/31
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says, but covet earnestly the best gifts.
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So, so coveting in itself is not necessarily sinful, but if
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you're coveting things other than Christ, if you're idolizing
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something other than Christ and God is that is that right?
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I mean, because here that here it uses it in a, in a good way,
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like it's telling us to cover those good gifts.
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We got time for one more, right? Let's see anything else on 6:00
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and 7:00 that that any of you, or when you do, we bounce to
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verse 8I think we got it pretty well covered.
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Yep. Verse 8 says.
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But now he also put off all these anger, wrath, malice,
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blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
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Yeah, Dad, go ahead, dig right in.
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Yeah, Ephesians chapter 5, verse 3, a very connecting type of
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passage. Paul wrote them both and he said
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there, but fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let
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it not be once named among you as becometh Saints.
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And then he says, and now put off also all these.
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And so here he's kind of doing the same type of thing.
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These, these inordinate affections and lusts and sinful,
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fleshly, sinful sexual things, uncleanness, you should never be
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doing those things. But he says now above and beyond
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that, like those are the things that a lot of even religious
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people don't do outwardly. They might be involved with
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secretly, but they wouldn't want to show you that they're doing
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them in any way publicly. But they might be OK with some
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of these next things. And the the wrath of God is
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coming upon the children of disobedience for that first
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list. But this second list is not a
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far, far away from that first list.
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People who live with this second list, anger, wrath, malice,
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blasphemy, and filthy communication.
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They're like on the doorstep of the bigger ones.
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You know, you, you might be able to control your sexual urge and
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not rape or not molest, but you're constantly angry on the
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verge of exploding and, and hurting people.
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Well, you're, you're kind of almost venturing into that same
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vein of sexual sin where your anger could explode to taking
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control of somebody's body and so on and so forth.
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So there's, there's a lot of crossover here.
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But in Ephesians he actually says these things should never
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be named and now put off also all these.
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So I think he's doing something similar here where Christians
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ought not to be angry, wrathful or desiring to hurt people.
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That's what malice is or wishing hurt upon other people and
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blasphemy. I think most people have a a
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fairly decent concept of what that is is as taking the holy
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and profaning it in some way and then filthy communication like
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Christians should be known for having a clean mouth.
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People who have their mood under control who don't allow external
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circumstances to dictate how they're going to feel.
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So real righteousness goes way down to your feelings.
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I I've heard recently that there's a quite a movement in
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the last 10-15 years to if going back to that first list of sins
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is say you have same sex attraction.
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They try to smooth it out by calling it same sex attraction.
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And some people will even say I'm a I'm a gay Christian, but
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I'm celibate. I don't ever touch it, I don't
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ever act on it. I stay far away from it.
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I'm just gay Christian. It would be like akin to saying
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I'm a pedophilia Christian. I'm a, a drunkard Christian.
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Like it doesn't, it doesn't make any sense.
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But because they want to be so accepting of the world's sin,
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they they put these labels on it and say, I understand what it's
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like to be tempted in this way. Therefore I am this kind of a
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Christian. And so those ones are obvious
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that like nobody should be a great gay Christian, but you
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should also be not known as an angry Christian or as a malice
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out full of malice. You should not be known as one
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who will RIP off someone in a business deal or someone who is
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slandering. Like all those little things
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should be of your concern as well, right?
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Yeah, that's that's really good. Dad.
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I appreciate you laying it out that way.
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And that is exactly why I believe that Andrew was talking
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earlier about bad, bad attitudes in your home, because, and, and
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I see that in plenty of people around us that, you know,
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they're Christian and everything until they smash their thumb or
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until their wife offends them or until they get bunched up in a,
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in a hurdle about their kids are too busy of a schedule.
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You know, until this thing happens.
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And then you can see, you know, like the glass that you know
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what, when you slosh a glass, whatever's in the glass, that's
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what comes out. You know, that kind of thing.
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That's why being cleansed and being being godly on the inside
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all the way through matters so much.
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And that includes your attitude for sure, Andrew.
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Yeah, it's interesting that anger is in there.
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You know that there's nowhere in the 10 commandments that be,
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don't be angry. It says don't kill.
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And then Jesus comes along and says you're angry, you've
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committed murder. And so it's very serious.
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And it's the one that bites all of us.
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I'm still working on that. It's hard for me to not get
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frustrated, you know, and get angry about things.
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And but it's, it's it's like Dan said, it's one of them sins that
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are bad. It shouldn't be among
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Christians. We should be able to have our
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cool. And there's a lot of people that
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are long minded, but I'm telling you what they don't have this
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one now only only reckoning yourself to be dead and being
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spiritually minded have a spiritual heavenly vision.
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Can you not get mad when in your mind the worst thing happened?
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You have to be completely have your affections set on things
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above to not respond with anger, frustration and you know the
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whole toxic environment. A lot of law minded people are
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have a lot of malice. They're into a lot of dishonest,
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shady business deals. You know, it's just something
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that the Spirit of God is superior to law.
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And so I'm just not impressed with the idea of law.
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And that's why God is doing this.
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He's telling us, look, the law of the Spirit and the life of
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Jesus Christ in you is so much more glorious than that which
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was Craven in stones and done away.
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Amen. Amen, Melvin.
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Yeah, I think one thing that came to my mind when I was
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reading this is that, well, two things.
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The first thing is, is that he is still, we have to remember
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he's still talking in the context of that we are dead in
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Christ, right? So we're we are dead to these
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things. Like it's like a lot of people
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read this and again, thinking that we have to somehow, you
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know, mortify this or or kill this, but we are actually dead
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to this. Now, whether we or believe that
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or not is the is the question. But and that's where we have to
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look at ourselves, I guess, and and see where we're at on this.
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If but the filthy communication out of your mouth, We read that
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and we think that that is just, you know, sit swearing or are
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using bad language. And it is it is part of that,
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but it's also speaking negatively about other
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individuals, gossiping about other people.
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That it to me in my mind is all included in that because there's
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a lot of law abiding people that would say, well, I, you know, I
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don't ever say, you know, poop or I don't ever say, you know a
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bad word. But then they're all the time
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gossiping or speaking negatively about others.
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And it's all in the same. It's filthy communication out of
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your mouth. Anything that is coming out of
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your mouth that is not positive or is not directed towards God
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is, is filthy communication. So I guess that's just what I
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thought of when I read this. But the main thing is that he
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says, but now ye also put off all these.
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He's not saying, he's not saying I, I want you to put these off.
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He said you have put these off. And so that's another thing.
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I want if he would read the very next verse, he would answer your
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question. It would, yeah.
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Yeah, that's right. If you're still a question man.
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Ephesians 426 does tell us, Be ye angry and sin not.
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Let not the sun go down upon your wrath, neither give place
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to the devil. I say, I think anger is what
1:00:04
stops a man or what makes a man stop injustices like rape or
1:00:09
molestation or abortion. You should be angry about those
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things, but don't allow it to consume you.
1:00:15
You a just man, a righteous man. Will use anger appropriately.
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It will not gain control of him to the point where he loses his
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control. When someone loses control,
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anger turns to wrath very quickly.
1:00:28
I have felt wrath on a couple occasions and it sounds silly to
1:00:32
even talk about it but it's like this seething rage that comes
1:00:34
over you. I had a dog that kept killing
1:00:37
chickens and it just it just so enraged me that I lost control.
1:00:41
I felt so ridiculous after, like how could a dog cause me to lose
1:00:45
my control? But I felt like a, a murderous
1:00:48
rage come over me for killing my chickens.
1:00:51
Like I'm really, really upset. And and that's the progress,
1:00:54
right? Like you're angry, but it's
1:00:56
uncontrolled anger and it turns to rage and it just, it, it
1:01:00
takes over your body. And this is where murder comes
1:01:02
from, right? It, it's from that same like
1:01:05
uncontrolled anger that just explodes and, you know, wrenches
1:01:09
flying across the room and all kinds of stuff.
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That's that uncontrolled anger that I think he's referring to.
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Whereas in Ephesians 4, he says, you know, go ahead and be angry,
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But anger is a it's an emotion that comes from God, right?
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It's something that he feels. I remember once years ago, I was
1:01:25
witnessing to a Co worker and we were talking about child
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molestation. And as we were talking about,
1:01:32
you know, children being hurt this way, he was visibly be
1:01:35
getting very, very angry. He had a 7 year old daughter at
1:01:38
the time, I believe. And you just said, man, if
1:01:40
somebody were to touch my girl, like you could just see in his
1:01:42
mind he was going there right? And he was talking about what he
1:01:45
would do to the man. And I said, you know, God feels
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the same way you do. And he looked at me kind of
1:01:51
baffled. I said absolutely that that
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rage, that anger, that drive to murder, to kill the man who's
1:01:57
doing this injustice. God feels that way.
1:01:59
He's angry at the wicked every day.
1:02:01
He, he's going to execute judgement upon those that are
1:02:05
unjust. But our, our motives get mixed
1:02:09
in there and we do wrong things. We, we come at it in a way where
1:02:12
we wouldn't do it justly. And so we should not take
1:02:15
vengeance, but we should allow our anger to motivate us at
1:02:19
times. Just don't let the sun go down
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on your wrath. Yep, all right, time to close.
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I one thing real quick. We were in South Dakota at a
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church at a friend's house for the weekend and the pastor
1:02:34
there, he said he made one comment about kind of on this
1:02:37
subject. He said temptation, being
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tempted is not sin, giving into it is sin.
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So it is not wrong to have those feelings.
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It is wrong to give into those feelings.
1:02:51
So don't be discouraged when you have strong feelings about
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something that is not the problem that is that is we know
1:02:59
that is coming. We know that is what Satan uses
1:03:01
or sometimes we bring it on ourselves, whatever, that's OK.
1:03:05
What what is needed though, is that we understand how that we
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manage that, how we overcome that and that we don't give it
1:03:10
to it. So with that, God bless you
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guys. Thanks for your time and your
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input on this. Appreciate it very much.
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We didn't get very far, but it was very good.
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So appreciate all that. So all right, next week, same
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time, same place, check out previous episodes
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All right, God bless you. Have a good one.
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Thanks.