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Hail, sleet, snow, rain regardless.
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We gonna go to games.
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Billion dollar stadium on Sundays.
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They don't close the bank.
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Fail rarely get your tail buried.
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Diggers j j j j j j no hail mary's.
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I'm
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Welcome into the Scene Project Sports Network.
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I am your host, Bubba Starts.
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You are here tonight for Vikings United.
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I am back on the scene and with my guys.
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I am joined as always by my cohost, Big B.
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What's happening, Big Good to see you, man.
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Nice.
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Good to see you too.
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I can't wait to hear about the trip.
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A little hardware I I saw, but, man, it it was good.
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It was hard to feel your shoes on your show.
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I thought I did good.
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But, hey, glad to have you black back.
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Glad to be talking some football and, you know, maybe a couple wrestling matches that fell out
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over the week.
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So I think we got some we got some fight companion on the show today.
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We are joined as always by coach Cody slamming him
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down.
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Yeah.
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Got it.
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How are doing, fellas?
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Good to see you, Bubba.
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Glad to have you back.
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Big b, you did an amazing job, in his absence.
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I I couldn't have done it without you.
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That's for sure.
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So way to hold it down.
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But, Bubba, you know, glad to have you back, and congratulations on a successful weekend.
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Looks like we all had a successful one all the way around.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I well, you know, b got trapped at the hotel for four days.
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Cody came and dug him out.
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Also, open up Yeah.
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Of the season regular season, number one.
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Right?
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That was the first regular season game.
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Correct?
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Correct.
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And we brought home a couple of big awards.
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So yeah.
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I know b one
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Yeah.
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Let's see it.
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Let's see it.
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We got it.
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We got it.
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You got freshies, boys.
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Those are nice.
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Let's go.
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Let's go.
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Yeah, man.
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These mean a lot to me.
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The the Midwest music contributor one was a huge one because it's a recognition of what,
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you know it's not necessarily a lifetime achievement award, but it's definitely a last
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two years of my life achievement award and the podcast of the year, man.
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This is a team effort.
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Right?
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This isn't just one one person.
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Know I've put a lot of effort into this before everyone got here, but this is a team, and
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we're here to rule together, man.
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So appreciated being able to go out to Detroit, accept those awards in person, and hand out a
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couple more as well.
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It was a great time in Detroit and then two more weeks on the road.
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I just got home last night about 11:30.
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Eighteen days on the road, over 5,500 miles traveled.
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Yeah, man.
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That that's doing it big time.
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And then
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And if I recall too, there were some dishes waiting for you too from last week, I think.
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Yeah.
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The one you're telling us.
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You know what?
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She actually she actually had all the dishes done before I got home.
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What a woman.
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And she got Check this thing out, man.
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I got a headrest and everything now.
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Oh, man.
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Oh, I'm I'm made in the shade, man.
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I'm like
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a cook pilot.
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Yep.
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I I got life so good right now.
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It's not even it's not even funny.
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The tour went great.
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We had some really awesome, some really awesome showcases.
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Sorry.
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My cat's going nuts here.
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You're you're seeing her tail, coming in and out, but I'm not even trying stop her.
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Somebody missed her daddy too.
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So yeah, man.
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Really incredible to go out and to capture that much content in such a short amount of time.
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Right?
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I think we had eight showcases with, you know, at least one, usually two or more, people per
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thing.
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So we did over 20 independent showcases with with independent artists and doing what the
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scene projects does.
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Gotta get a little golf, got around in while I was down in Texas, and the weather was
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beautiful.
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Yeah, man.
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It was all all good, man.
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All good.
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That's good.
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That's good to hear.
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Glad you're back.
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Glad you guys all had the same time.
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You know, maybe next year, we got a couple more companions that ride with you, you know.
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So
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That's right.
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Hey, man.
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The Suburban's a a big ride, man, and I got a trailer we can pull behind it
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as long
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as somebody's footing the gas bill.
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Yep.
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I need to I
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need to lease my I need to lease my trailer at Coach for all the equipment so they can fit
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more.
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And credit.
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Mhmm.
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Well, I wasn't the only one with an exciting weekend, and we're gonna get some color
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commentary from your guys who are in the background with us as well, Coach.
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But I think we're all interested to know.
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We obviously you know, we talked about you getting the big dub.
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Wanna know on the regular season right now with the Wyoming cavalry.
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But we had some extracurriculars that ended the game a little bit early.
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I'm gonna let you kinda deliver the backstory, and then we're gonna bring your guys in here to
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get some color along with it as well.
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Yeah.
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I mean so we played the Cedar Rapids titans this past weekend, last Friday, down in Cedar
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Rapids, and, you know, it was, it was an intense game from the start even from before,
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starting before kickoff.
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You know, there's always gonna be some jawjacking, but this time, it was a little bit
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more than just, you know, just a playful jawjacking.
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It was a line stepping over boundaries and stuff like that.
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And so, you know, I I told our players at the beginning of the game and at halftime, like,
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hey.
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You know, we just gotta knock off a little bit of rust.
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When we do, we're gonna be going for throats.
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Teams get mad at this, and so, you know, keep your composure.
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I couldn't stress that enough.
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Keep your composure.
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You know, it was a it was a it was a offensive struggle, for both teams.
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You know, our offense couldn't get it together, you know, to start that game.
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At the end of the first quarter, it was zero zero.
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And then second quarter is when kinda all the scoring started happening.
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We fell behind 12 to zero right off the rip.
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Defense just got put in tough positions starting with a small field all the time, but,
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you know, they were they're really good at bending, not breaking, and, coming up with big
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plays when we needed the most.
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We had a a missed PAT and a blocked PAT, to help it get to 12.
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And then, our defense came up with a huge defensive stop to give our offense a very, very
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short field.
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I called the time out with, like, fourteen seconds to go.
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That way, we could at least get, you know, two plays on offense.
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We still had two time outs left, so it wasn't you know, we weren't worried about that.
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We, you know, come out with the QB sneak, get the two point conversion.
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We're in the halftime, 12 to eight.
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You know?
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And then that's where I told him.
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I was like, alright.
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They you know, now we're starting to get our groove.
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Let's get out there.
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You know, second half, we're we're we've always been a second half team, you know, throughout
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the years.
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And, right away, my boy, Beau Butler, comes out, takes that kickoff return all the way to
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the house, and that ended up being the, deciding, score.
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And then the ensuing kickoff, we had a penalty.
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It was a 15 yard penalty.
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They had, like, one, maybe two plays on offense, and, you know, it was a short pass to
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the left side of the field, but kinda by our, our, like, sideline, I guess, sideline area.
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And, I mean, I didn't see exactly what happened.
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I I heard that a coach thought that there was a late hit.
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I didn't see that, but I'm on the field far side, and I'm looking at the coach the whole
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time because he was he was on one for a little bit.
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And, you know, I saw him shake that pole, say something.
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I come out a couple feet, and I'm like, calm down.
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I walk around.
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I look back, and I see him coming from his, you know, sideline area around the curtain behind
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the DJ announcer into our, bench area and start throwing hands on the owner of our team.
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And then that's when, you know, once hands are thrown, people are hopping over the walls and
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it's mayhem from there.
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But I'll Yeah.
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All bets are off once punches start flying on the football field.
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Yeah.
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It's an emotional game to begin with.
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But once people start laying hands on other people, especially someone who's not even in
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the game, It was just a wild scene watching the video.
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I I wanna bring your guys in.
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We we got Ty and, and Brad here with us as well.
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I'm gonna bring them in.
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Yep.
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Welcome to the show, Ty.
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I know you're muted right now.
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Brad, I'm gonna bring you in too.
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I don't know if I can unmute.
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You'll have to unmute yourself, Ty.
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I can't I can't do it.
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There you go.
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You're good.
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Welcome in, fellas.
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What a wild scene here.
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Obviously, just kinda had coach, set the stage for us.
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Were you guys on the field or in the, like, on the sidelines when this took?
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And, Brad, we'll go ahead and start with you.
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Yeah.
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So I was I was on the sideline for that play, and I was about halfway down the bench, saw the
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stuff happening on the field, and I couldn't even really fully see because it was right up
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against the wall.
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And I just saw that, you know, their guy caught the ball, got hit hard into the wall.
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I think his helmet came off, and, you know, there was a little bit of pushing and shoving.
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I think, you know, I think our owner tried to help deescalate the situation, and that's what
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set their coach off.
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He saw it a different way, felt different about it.
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And then, you know, just looking back to the field, and then I just remember looking back
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and seeing their coach walk through the curtain, and I was like, that was weird.
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But he he was just walking.
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It wasn't like he was running or anything like that.
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And then all of sudden, he just comes right up behind our owner and just starts throwing
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haymakers.
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And I think he got, like, one or two in before our guy kinda took over and put him in his
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place.
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But then, yeah, it was it was just a crazy scene from there.
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Obviously, you had guys getting into it.
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I went to set my helmet down and, like, try to help pull some people out, and I see a sea of
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blue jerseys just coming over the wall from the field.
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Thankfully, all of those guys, for whatever reason, it was it wasn't those guys.
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It was the other guys that came from around, you know, on the other side that were getting
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involved in the fight.
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Because I went up to those guys, and they were like, hey, man.
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We're just trying to get our guys out of here.
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But yeah.
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So while that's happening on that side, you got the people behind the curtain and all you know,
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curtains are falling down, structures are falling down, people are, you know, fighting
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and all that.
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And it was just not, I mean, not what you want in a professional game.
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It wasn't professional at all.
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It I I've now seen everything in football, I guess.
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I've never seen a a coach come from, you know, one bench to the other to fight anybody.
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Seen a lot of crazy stuff in semi pro football, but nothing like that.
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Yeah.
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That's
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wild.
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I would try to get Ty back in here.
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Ty, can you hear me now?
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I'll say I can I I can't hear you at the moment?
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Yeah.
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That's weird.
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I don't know why he can't hear.
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Can you hear Cody?
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Cody, talk to your boy.
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Yo, Ty.
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You hear me?
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Take out them AirPods, man.
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Alright.
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I'll get Yeah.
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It probably is the AirPods.
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Go ahead, mate.
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Yeah.
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I'll get it.
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So, coach, you I mean, you're on the field at your appointment, you know, trying to calm the
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people down.
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I mean, what was I mean, leading up to that moment, it sounds like it was a battle between
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both teams.
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I mean, do we was it that hit that play that caused it, or was it I mean, was it the jaw
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jack between the two teams that might have got the coach up up in arms?
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I mean, from your vantage point, when did you notice the coach was on his way over to your
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guys' side?
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No.
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Oh, man.
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Alright.
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I I literally saw it.
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Like, in the video, you can see him kinda, like, do one of these and then shake the pole.
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I'm watching this whole thing go down.
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And then he, like just before he, like, so like, throws his hands down and turns around, I
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pop up.
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I'm like, calm down.
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Yep.
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And then, I literally am watching him this whole time going around Oh,
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Oh, you're the guy's side.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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I had the whole, whole vantage point, and it just happened so quickly.
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And like like Brad said, you know, once once one dude goes over the wall, everybody's going
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over that wall.
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And it sucks for us because you don't you don't know because everyone's going at over that wall
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so aggressive, and it's just one hop over that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So you don't know exactly who's there to break up the fight and who's there to get it get some
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work.
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You know?
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I it just sucks because, like, we had in a VIP area right next to us, a boy scout leader and
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his, like, pub scouts, like, at least 15 of them right there.
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I mean, we had
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What was their reaction?
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Were they hype?
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Actually, I I didn't catch their reaction.
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They're probably like, oh, crap.
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But we had we had one of our players.
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His son was was chilling with us just because, you know, we didn't really have a, like, fan
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there that could watch him.
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So he was chilling there.
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And I look over there, and during the middle of it, he's got his phone on.
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He's
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like, oh.
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That's the angle I was watching.
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I saw
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He's like he's like he's like, I'm like that.
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Look at what y'all are doing compared to what I'm doing.
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Look at this.
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He's got front row seats.
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But, you know, it's just it's a it's a sunset that had to happen.
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It it was it was literally starting up, like I said, before kickoff, before the game even
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started.
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We we had players of ours.
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Like, I can't tell you enough how proud I am of my players, for them keeping their composure
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because they're getting helmet to the side.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Helmet to helmet.
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They're getting face masks, and I know it sucks.
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And I know that they hate when I tell them this, but just talk to the ref.
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Talk to us.
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We'll talk to the ref, and, you know, hopefully, we can make stuff happen.
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And, you know, just for them to respond the way they did when we see a sea of blue coming over
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the walls, you know, I just I gotta throw it out to him, give him a big shout out.
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Obviously, from the suspensions and disciplinary actions handed down, my my team
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did a very, very nice job.
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Yeah.
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Ty Ty, can you hear me now?
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Yeah.
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I can hear you better now.
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There we go.
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Sorry.
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Like, yeah.
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Take out the AirPods, Ty.
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No.
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I can hear everybody but him when I have the AirPods in, man.
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Yeah.
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It's like sometimes, man, technology always works when you don't need it Yep.
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Right.
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When you
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need it to.
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So, Ty, where were you at when all this was going down?
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Are you on the bench with Brad, or you out on the field?
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So I was actually a part of the tackle on that play.
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Mhmm.
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So when
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we tackled him into the
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to the wall yeah.
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So when
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we tackled him into the wall, his helmet came off in the middle of the play.
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So, you know, it's kinda he was pushing back a little bit.
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We were pushing on him as his, you know, his helmet's off.
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The play's over with.
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And then, you know, it's just a bunch of hands all in the area, and, you know, we're all
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starting to walk away, get back on the field, and you just turn around and you start seeing,
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you know, everybody's going crazy, yelling on the sideline.
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I jumped over the wall, and I'm going instantly for my teammates to pull everybody back because
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we've already had one fighting situation.
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You know, game one, we don't need anything else to continue for ourselves.
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So, I mean, I'm looking for teammates and stuff.
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We got three guys on top of it.
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We got three Cedar Rapids guys on top of one of our players.
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You got another Cedar Rapids guy trying to slam one of our players and stuff, and it's a bunch
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of pushing and shove them going back and forth.
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And like Cody said, I hate it for the fans.
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I hate it for the little kids that are know, that's why we're doing it as well as for the
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fans and the little kids.
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And just to know that, like Rad said, nothing was professional from the beginning of the game
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where they are trying to argue about us eating and stuff like that before the game, pregame
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meal, and we're chirping back and forth walking between the locker rooms since the locker rooms
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are, you know, like this right next to each other.
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So you're gonna have some beef and bumping heads before the game.
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When we got on the field first quarter, or second quarter, you know, you had two
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injections, one on each side, the corner and the receiver.
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And so it kinda got more chippy from there.
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We were all going back and forth, helmet pushing, pushing each other.
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And if you go back and watch the film of the game, you can see that some of the stuff has
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happened in front of the refs, and they're letting it happen without calling.
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Yeah.
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So this isn't an isolated incident at this.
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This is the, you know, the straw that breaks the camel's back finally with their coach, with
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the player's helmet coming off.
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But it sounds like you guys were kinda getting the brunt of a lot of the, you know, the
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physical nature of it for most of the game and at the one point where, I guess, it's
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perceived.
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I mean, that's hard.
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It's arena football.
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Guys get tackled into the wall.
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Guy doesn't have his helmet strapped on properly.
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It comes off.
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Now that seems like that was kinda taken out of the context of the play itself and looked at
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more of over the course of this whole thing by their coach and just a complete overreaction.
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I mean, just uncalled for.
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I it's unprofessional.
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It's irresponsible.
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It's, I mean, it's it's True.
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Like I told the guys at halftime, they can't beat us playing football.
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They're gonna have to start doing something else another way.
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Like Cody said, yes.
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It was a slow game starting off for both offenses.
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At the end of the first quarter, it's zero zero.
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Second quarter, they step up, make a little plays, couple plays.
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They go up twelve zero.
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But right before halftime, shoot, I made a sack on the one yard line that helps our offense to
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get that, and that's where momentum changes the whole game right there.
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They they weren't gonna beat us from there.
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Our defense, like you said, is stout.
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We are bend, don't break defense.
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We continue to talk with each other, communicate, and it got to more where it's not
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football.
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They're not gonna be able to beat us between the lines.
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They're gonna have to do something to get one of us out the game, do something to where, you
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know, we're losing our players and teammates, and that's just how I see, you know, they
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couldn't beat us between the lines.
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We would love to play in the game.
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Now, Ty, and I guess this is kind of for for everyone out, do you feel like your reputation
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now preceding you with the big win against CNY and the way that you guys played and just kinda
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having this reputation as a really good football team that peep people are preparing
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knowing that talent wise, they probably can't measure up.
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So they're looking for anything to try and make a way.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'll take it.
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I'll
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take it.
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So, yes, and I'm you know, I have a full faith in my team.
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I have full faith in the players.
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Obviously, if I don't have faith in you, you're not gonna be even on the team, and these guys
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can vouch for me on that.
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I don't mess around.
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But, you know, I it's the fact that, you know, these guys are dogs.
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You know, I tell them all the time.
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I'm like, when we were down twelve zero, like, it didn't feel you and you guys can, comment on
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this.
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It didn't feel like we were down twelve zero.
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It felt like a close game all the way through.
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We never feel like a panic mode, honestly.
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And and this has happened maybe, like, two or three times, but we don't really panic until
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we're four scores down.
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Three scores
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Arena football, it's a it's a small field, and points can happen really fast.
25:19
Mhmm.
25:20
Right?
25:20
So, you know, two scores isn't what it is in the NFL where you have, you know, 80 to a 100
25:26
yards down the field to go at a time.
25:29
Points come in bunches in this league.
25:31
The the only the only thing, you know, is that you got that running clock.
25:37
And I will say, you know, I I'm so glad that I looked up.
25:42
I, like, I knew that it was one minute warning.
25:45
And then, you know, the flow of the game kinda got me.
25:48
I look up after Tyree's huge sack.
25:50
I look up, and it was, like, seventeen seconds up.
25:54
And I was like, oh, crap.
25:55
We still got all three of our timeouts.
25:57
Like, look.
25:57
We still got time to score at least do two plays.
26:00
But, you know, I'm like, I don't have I have complete faith in these guys.
26:06
They know what kind of players they are.
26:08
They know, you know, as long as they stick to each other, trust each other, that we can get
26:13
ourselves out of any hole.
26:15
I don't wanna put blame on the refs per se just because I'm I'm an official as well in my spare
26:22
time when I do have spare time.
26:24
But we were told at the beginning of the game because of that CMY game that, you know, any
26:31
chippiness, any fights, any throwing of hands, automatic injections, stuff like that.
26:38
They weren't gonna put up with any of the extracurriculars.
26:41
Some of the stuff and, coach, this is digging in, I guess, a little bit on your, you know, on
26:46
your official side.
26:48
There's stuff that may be legal but is very borderline during the course of the game, and
26:54
it feels like it the the gameplay was kinda riding that line.
26:59
Do you feel like there was something the officials could have done to kinda tamp things
27:03
down earlier rather than letting it get kind of just continue to I mean, I guess they did have
27:10
a couple of injections already in the first half too.
27:14
But yeah.
27:15
I mean, in your to to put your, you know, your stripes on for a moment here, do you think
27:21
there was anything that they could have done to kinda tamp tamp down the tempers and the
27:25
emotions before it got to this level?
27:29
Yeah.
27:29
100%.
27:30
And, you know, if there's repercussions for this, it is what it is.
27:35
But coming from a coach and an official, if I tell a coach, hey.
27:42
If you have any problems or if there's anything suspect during the game, come to me and we
27:48
could talk about it.
27:51
Had better uphold that.
27:53
Okay?
27:54
There's many times I tried to talk to the white hat, and I kinda got just that cold shoulder.
28:00
And it's like, okay.
28:01
Like, you're gonna let this go?
28:04
This is what you know, like, fuck around and find out.
28:07
Yeah.
28:07
You're asking for trouble because at the end of the day, you got a bunch of grown ass men out
28:11
there that are are not about to let their teammates, their coaches, their team be
28:19
disrespected in that way.
28:21
And nobody's just gonna sit there and wait to get punched in the mouth.
28:25
Like, that's not how this game or the this life works.
28:29
Right.
28:30
Well, and that's what I wanna ask Brad and Ty.
28:32
Was there talk between you guys and said, hey, man.
28:36
If they don't cut this out, we're gonna have to do something.
28:39
I mean, not get physical like that, but, you know, maybe put a little bit more emphasis on
28:45
your hitting and blocking and stuff like that to to but hopefully, shut them up and get them
28:51
to know that they're not messing around.
28:54
So we're gonna talk between you guys as a team to be like, hey.
28:58
If so and so doesn't chill, we need to put a a I don't wanna say dirty hit, but a strong hit
29:04
on them.
29:06
But you wanna go first, Brad?
29:07
Or
29:08
Either one.
29:10
No.
29:10
Go ahead, bro.
29:11
I mean, so, like like you said, from that first game, it's already a blemish on our name.
29:16
You know, people don't know who this team is yet, so we're trying to go out here, you know,
29:21
re reinvent ourselves in a sense, you know, that we just play football.
29:24
And when it got, like we said, before the game, it was a bunch of talking pregame.
29:28
It was already a bunch of talking.
29:30
So we kinda already started seeing how the energy was going.
29:33
You know, we're not coming out here to fight.
29:34
We're still coming to play hard, smashing out the football.
29:36
And that's kinda what it felt like it was turning into at first at the beginning of the
29:41
game.
29:41
You know, we're both giving blows of hard hitting tackles on both sides of the ball, for
29:45
both teams.
29:46
And then, like you said, it just gets to that point.
29:48
We had that ejection in the second quarter, and that's where we had to pull each other to the
29:52
side.
29:53
You know, there goes one player
29:54
right here already.
29:55
We can't
29:55
have this again because they're not clearly, the referees aren't playing.
29:58
You're gonna be out of here.
29:59
You know, that's two games you're gonna be missing.
30:00
A game you're gonna be missing.
30:01
So we sat down and just sat there and kept saying with each other, you know, if you get
30:05
into a fight, we're you we wanna take you off the field.
30:08
Like, if you're on this team on the wildman cower, you bet you gotta be able to take
30:11
constructive criticism.
30:13
If you cannot listen to your teammates, then you're not gonna be on this team.
30:16
If we are somebody's coming to you telling you you're doing something wrong, you need to sit
30:20
down and listen to what they're saying, and that's kinda how we were.
30:23
And we got into the locker room at halftime, and we said it.
30:25
You know?
30:26
Look look what the offense just did.
30:27
They went out there, scored these last twenty two seconds of the quarter.
30:30
We're getting the ball back.
30:32
Let's go out there and play football.
30:33
Keep your hands to yourself.
30:34
Just play smart and instantly.
30:37
First play, take it back to the crib.
30:40
The next play, the kickoff to them, we get a flag for a face mask.
30:44
But then down the field, you watch film.
30:46
On the film, it shows they got a whole player grabbing Brad right here on the stream, hitting
30:51
him in his face, face masking, throwing punches in the middle of the play while we're getting a
30:55
face mask penalty.
30:56
And it's just like, you know,
30:57
it was just our
30:58
it there was no control, I feel like, through the referees after that point.
31:02
And it's just like like you said, we're grown men, but it's also it needs to be professional
31:06
at some point
31:07
in time.
31:07
When is enough gonna be enough?
31:09
And that's that whole situation was enough, basically, and it's just embarrassing.
31:14
Like malfeasance on the on the part of the officials.
31:18
Just not not nipping things in the bud early, letting things get too emotionally charged.
31:25
You know?
31:26
It it sounds like they they probably should have had some conversations, with the coaches
31:30
benches after the objections.
31:32
What were the objections for in the second quarter?
31:36
It was just a wasn't it a shot to the helmet on both players?
31:41
Receiving the quarter?
31:42
Yeah.
31:42
In a sense.
31:43
Well, you know, in football, everybody mushes each other.
31:46
That's that's what it really is.
31:47
And, you know,
31:47
and they're
31:48
seeing that strike to the jaw and good mask.
31:50
From both players.
31:52
So so, Cody, I don't know if you know, what you could say or not say, but can you guys send the
32:01
office some tapes and be like, hey.
32:03
The officials were like, this is our goal.
32:05
They could've stopped it.
32:06
You know, had the, you know, the the league investigate the officials on, you know, their
32:14
lack of control of the game?
32:17
I mean, I probably could, but, like, coming from one myself, you know, I I've been thinking
32:24
how I would have handled that situation.
32:27
Okay.
32:28
And, I mean, I'm I'm cut from a different cloth.
32:32
Yeah.
32:32
You know, I I'm different, honestly.
32:35
And so I don't put up with any of that fuck shit.
32:38
I just I just don't.
32:40
So I set a standard, and I hold it.
32:44
So, I mean, I I I'm I'm honestly, I bet we could, but we let's just be honest.
32:52
It was a great game.
32:54
You know, our offense struggled.
32:57
And other than Tyrese's stop, the QB sneak, and then the kick return, let's just face it.
33:07
We like, they had us.
33:09
They had us until the until we started until we knocked off that rust and really got going.
33:15
You know, it just seemed like we're sluggish and stuff like that, but I'm not gonna I'm not
33:20
I'm not gonna go that far and send tapes into the three of the reps.
33:25
So I'm I'm not gonna do that.
33:26
Yeah.
33:27
Well and just hearing it, you know, from you and kinda getting more context with it,
33:32
obviously, I saw the video.
33:34
I mean, their coach was unhinged.
33:36
Right?
33:37
So something to me that says that, like, whether it was what it got to or not, it felt
33:44
like something was going to happen.
33:45
And I'm sure it felt like that for you guys on the field and, coach, for you on the sideline
33:50
too where it seemed like the energy in the room was just such that this game's not gonna make
33:58
it to time.
33:58
Right?
33:59
Like, something is going to happen.
34:01
I I don't know if anyone foresees it being, you know, coming from the coaches and starting on
34:07
the sidelines.
34:08
I think maybe you thought maybe it would start on the field and spill over the other way.
34:13
Yeah.
34:13
Right.
34:14
Who's call?
34:15
Who's call wasn't to end the game?
34:18
Of time, and it just
34:20
Who the
34:20
reps left the referees left the game.
34:23
No.
34:24
So the the call so I actually have, the owner of the league, Terrence, Foster.
34:34
I I've literally have gotta have him on speed dial, now just to you know?
34:41
And I called him right away.
34:42
We were literally, still on the field.
34:46
Well, I had hopped over, swung my leg over.
34:50
I saw a dude, one of our players try get picked up and tried to get suplexed.
34:56
And then I had got him on the phone.
34:59
I was I was explaining the situation because I saw it all.
35:02
Was I like, they're gonna try to, cancel this game.
35:05
At first, he's like, they can't do that.
35:08
But then, you know, just it it wouldn't had it continued, it probably seventy five, eighty
35:16
percent would have gone south from there.
35:20
So I I don't blame the officials for calling it.
35:24
But, yeah, it was, the head official and then the, people who own the arena just, you know,
35:34
thinking of safety for the fans and stuff.
35:37
You know, it just you know, we at the end of the at the end of the game, we had to be
35:43
literally, we had to get all of our stuff out of the locker room and get in a group and be
35:47
escorted out of there.
35:49
They had the the door that we walked out of, their team bus was right there.
35:55
Like, you know?
35:58
And then Wow.
35:59
Their team bus is right there, and we gotta come out and we're parked.
36:03
We have all of our vehicles parked along this side.
36:06
So, like, Tyree, I go out with you.
36:09
Our our vehicle is right there.
36:11
First one right right there in the spot next to him.
36:13
You know what I'm saying?
36:14
So that's all I'm saying.
36:15
I'm like, we get up, like, got, like, handled business, got the win.
36:20
Let's get the hell up out of here.
36:23
You guys surprised nothing happened?
36:26
Do they leave the other team in the locker room until you guys all left?
36:29
Or
36:30
No.
36:30
So it was they they let the fans leave first.
36:34
They wanted
36:35
to get them out of there.
36:36
No.
36:36
That makes sense.
36:37
They let they let Cedar Rapids get out to the bus, and that's why they had us waiting kind of
36:43
in, like, a
36:43
ranch area.
36:44
Okay.
36:44
You guys waited.
36:45
Okay.
36:45
Players could get out onto the bus.
36:47
And to be honest, I think this is where it's weird.
36:50
Like, even with a lot of the chippiness, like, most of the players on their side were, like,
36:57
jumping over the wall to try to break it
36:59
up.
36:59
Mhmm.
37:00
So, like, I think from a player standpoint, like, even after the fight broke up, like, I
37:05
went back out onto the field and started dabbing it up with some of their guys, like
37:09
their quarterback, a couple of their receivers, stuff like that.
37:12
Because we all just assumed the game was over at that point.
37:16
So I don't think there would have been an issue, but, obviously, you don't want a chance
37:21
that you don't know.
37:22
Yeah.
37:23
It did seem like there was more guys that wanted to play, like you said, as all this
37:28
stuff was happening, you know, guys like, yay, we need to just break apart.
37:32
Let's finish this out.
37:33
And, you know, you're gonna have a few hot heads on each side, and I feel like the
37:37
collective still wanted to play football, though, and it's just a shame that we couldn't
37:41
finish it.
37:42
It just it just sucks, just because, you know, we're all grown ass men, high emotions, you
37:49
know, ton of passion for the sport.
37:53
And it just you you know, you're in the moment, and you see opposing players coming over your
38:01
the wall, and your first instinct is just who who's getting worse first?
38:06
You know?
38:07
Well, yeah.
38:07
I mean, they're jumping right into your safe space.
38:10
There you go.
38:10
Jumping right
38:11
into your sideline where you well, I mean, you got young kids.
38:15
Right?
38:15
Like, you you got one of your teammates' boys are over there.
38:18
You know?
38:18
You're you're gonna you're gonna have your guard up a little bit, and then not to mention
38:22
that it's your it's your space.
38:24
Right?
38:25
And Is
38:26
rematch? There
38:26
There I mean
38:29
So check it out.
38:30
Check it out.
38:31
Why don't we like that there, Paula?
38:34
And
38:36
this is why I'm so blessed, and I'm grateful to have the the dogs that I do with the smarts
38:42
that they do is disciplinary actions came out.
38:46
That coach, that coach, he's gone for the year.
38:51
So there's an opening you're saying on their side for you, Cody.
38:54
Uh-huh.
38:55
So there's an opening on their side for you for another job.
38:59
Like, Like, where I'm at right now.
39:02
Two and o's a lot better than one two.
39:06
We bought so they had eight players suspended total.
39:10
Seven are suspended for two games.
39:13
One is suspended for one game.
39:15
We had one player suspended for one game, and then we're fined.
39:21
You know?
39:22
So all in all, I hope nobody on our team is bitching because we're we're doing pretty good.
39:30
Now with that being said, we play March 28 this weekend, and then next, April 4, we play Cedar
39:43
Rapids.
39:44
Oh.
39:45
So those seven players that got ejected two games, they're when they come to Wyoming,
39:53
they're gonna be down a significant amount of players.
39:56
Damn near a a half of the field because there's
39:59
Are they able to replace those players or no?
40:02
Are they able to replace those players?
40:04
Or I don't same player?
40:06
I don't know.
40:08
To be honest with you, I would I would assume they would be able to.
40:13
If they were five players, I mean
40:14
No.
40:15
I I would hope that they had, you know, enough to have some backups.
40:21
I know the roster is, you know, pretty slim as is.
40:25
It's not like the plus that you could have in the NFL because it's eight versus eight.
40:31
But, I mean, I guess we'll see what they do.
40:35
I guess
40:36
So I would guess that the league's probably gonna reach out before that game and try to
40:41
level head with both teams to make sure this doesn't happen again.
40:45
Right?
40:45
Yeah.
40:47
And, I mean, I've told our you know, these guys can, you know, testify.
40:53
I'd I'd remind them every time.
40:54
I'm like, hey, man.
40:55
I mean, don't let five seconds or five minutes ruin a whole season.
41:03
You know?
41:04
We're we're ranked we were ranked seventeenth in the nation coming, down or up two spots from
41:13
19.
41:14
And after this one, I'd be shocked if we weren't top 15.
41:18
And it's just we we're on a mission.
41:20
We got, like, long term goals, and, you know, we're set up we're set on them.
41:26
So we're not gonna let some, you know, two minute brawl affect the rest of our season.
41:34
Well, yeah.
41:34
No.
41:35
You still need to.
41:36
So No.
41:37
No.
41:38
Awesome.
41:38
Awesome for you guys.
41:41
You you got that dub.
41:43
Any means possible, and you you keep moving on.
41:47
No suspensions, thank goodness, at a big game this weekend.
41:51
I'd ask you who you're playing, but who knows?
41:56
Ty, Brad, appreciate you guys keeping your cool so that we can look forward to some more
42:01
highlights throughout this season as well.
42:04
Thanks for coming in and sharing your side of the story.
42:07
We're gonna get into some more Minnesota Vikings.
42:11
We're gonna get into some more Minnesota Vikings talk, and we gotta honor another fellow
42:18
podcaster and media personality who we lost over the weekend as well in the Minnesota
42:25
scene.
42:26
Really sad to hear about that.
42:28
But, appreciate you, Ty.
42:29
Brad, thanks for joining us tonight, fellas.
42:32
Good luck to you this weekend.
42:33
I'm sure you gotta go watch some tape and, get ready
42:38
for the game.
42:38
Hey, fellas.
42:39
A meeting right after this.
42:41
So yes, sir.
42:41
Thank you for having us.
42:42
What up, fellas?
42:44
Sir.
42:44
What's up, coach?
42:45
I'll see you at 10PM.
42:47
Yes, sir.
42:48
Alright,
42:49
fellas.
42:50
Thanks for being here, guys.
42:51
Appreciate you.
42:56
Nice.
42:56
Well, yeah, I wanted to, take a moment and just, I would be remiss if we didn't at least
43:08
acknowledge the terrible tragedy, to the state of hockey, the state of Minnesota, you know,
43:15
Minnesota sports radio and talk.
43:19
Jesse Pierce was a force, someone that I tuned into and really looked up to the short amount
43:26
of time that I've that I've been following her.
43:29
So our our hearts and prayers, obviously, with her family and everyone in the state of
43:35
Minnesota, I'm sure, feeling that one.
43:38
Just incredibly tragic to wake up to that news the other day.
43:43
Yeah.
43:44
Definitely a big prayer sauce to the families.
43:49
The the schools that the kids were in, I mean, you know, I I don't think there's enough said.
43:55
I know listen to local radio, you know, they're all kind of not knowing what was going on today
44:02
because she was supposed to work that Saturday, I think.
44:04
And then I think they found out, like, right before game time that it was her.
44:09
So, I mean, that had to be a hard thing to do.
44:12
The hockey community definitely has come out.
44:15
I heard a couple teams, you know, you know, set a nice chunk of change to their gold bucket
44:22
page to help out.
44:24
Yeah.
44:25
Just just sad sad tragedy to anybody, not just, you know, not because, you know, of who she is,
44:32
but, I mean, just to hear that overall, know, the kids, her, you know, has so much to live
44:38
for.
44:40
I know one of the guys at Cape Inn said that he wanted to talk to her about a tradition that
44:46
she does in Woodbury going to a local ice cream shop the first day of spring, and he was
44:52
looking forward to talking to her and you know, of course it did happen.
44:56
So, yeah, that's just tragic news.
45:01
Yeah.
45:02
You know, my thoughts and prayers go out to the family.
45:07
You know, it's it's a huge loss that's not not only the wild community, but the hockey
45:15
community in general will suffer.
45:19
You know, she she was mainly, you know, Minnesota wild covering, the team, but, you
45:28
know, she was she was also branching out and getting actual NHL exposure and, you know,
45:35
living the dream.
45:36
And it's just heartbreaking to, you know, wake up and hear the news, not only her, but, you
45:44
know, three kids, two, you know, with their whole future ahead of them.
45:50
It's just a tragedy, and, you know, you never wanna wish it up on anyone, but, damn, you
45:58
know, she's taking too soon.
46:02
Yeah.
46:02
So, you know, just wanted to at least take a minute here.
46:06
We are at Minnesota, you know, focused and centric.
46:11
I know that the sports network branches out a little bit, but, you know, it was someone who
46:17
I've watched.
46:18
Mhmm.
46:19
And I would never call them competition.
46:21
I would call them more colleagues, right, fellow podcasters and, you know, sports media
46:28
personalities.
46:30
At this point, I think we all kinda think of ourselves that way.
46:33
So just really, really heartbreaking.
46:36
So wanna always remember fondly the name Jessie Pierce and and the state of hockey and
46:43
everything that she did for the sport and for independent media sports coverage as well.
46:49
So, yeah, just tough tough tough.
46:56
As a parent, man, I I can't even I can't even think.
46:58
You know, as a husband and a a father, it's brutal to even think about.
47:06
Yeah.
47:07
Sure is.
47:08
Yeah.
47:08
Absolutely.
47:12
Well, moving on, I haven't got to talk about Kyler Murray at all.
47:19
So I'll do it.
47:21
I mean, I've seen so many different videos.
47:24
It won't take us long to get through the tail of the tape, b.
47:27
Don't worry.
47:27
Oh, man.
47:29
Yeah.
47:29
Go ahead.
47:30
What's your thoughts?
47:31
Fun.
47:32
Before you get in
47:33
And and we talked at
47:34
we talked at length about this beforehand, and I still don't I'm not changing my tune as far
47:40
as I don't think he's a fit.
47:42
I don't think he's a fit in KOC system, but you picked him up for, like, a million bucks.
47:48
The athletic ability, I think, is worth that.
47:51
It raises the floor of the QB Room.
47:54
I know they haven't named him the starter yet.
47:57
I don't think you can.
47:57
I think you let these guys play it out.
48:00
Right?
48:00
You you let the you let the experienced vet with all the athletic ability and no fucking
48:06
work ethic play it out against the guy who I think has a lot of that and has a lot of that
48:11
moxie.
48:12
And I think this is what we I think this is what we push into that pushes JJ McCarthy even
48:23
into the best player that he can be.
48:25
Because and I don't know his whole career, but it seems like he's definitely been the guy.
48:30
Anywhere he's gone, he's been the guy, the heir apparent, whatever.
48:34
And not that he hasn't performed in that way, but he's maybe never had a level of competition
48:42
like a Kyler Murray.
48:43
I do not think Kyler is the savior of this franchise.
48:47
I don't think that I mean, if he was, you you would give him more than the bet minimum.
48:53
Right?
48:53
Like
48:53
Hell, woah.
48:54
Guy.
48:55
There's a reason that's, like, going out there.
48:58
Oh, you can if you if he could be the the savior, but if you can pay him a bottom dollar,
49:05
who you you gotta.
49:06
No.
49:06
No.
49:06
No.
49:06
But what I
49:07
what I'm saying is, coach, is that if he was the savior, he wouldn't be available for
49:11
Oh, I expect.
49:12
Yeah.
49:13
Yeah.
49:13
You know what I mean?
49:14
If he was as good, then there would have been 31 other teams clamoring to have them on their
49:20
team.
49:21
Shit.
49:21
He probably wouldn't have left Arizona if he was that guy.
49:24
You know what I'm saying?
49:25
And I You know, I just I just envisioned, you know, KLC going into the locker room, you know,
49:31
that see the draft day where Kassar walks into the other quarterback, and he's just like,
49:40
trade me.
49:40
He's like, no.
49:41
I'm not gonna trade you.
49:41
He's like, fine.
49:42
I'll just beat him out.
49:43
I I could just vision JJ say that, you know, when he got the news that Callie was coming in
49:48
and, you know, he's just like, fine.
49:50
I'll just I'll just beat him out, you know.
49:52
So hopefully, it does raise that level, you know, for for him and the Vikings.
50:00
Yeah.
50:00
No.
50:00
I I I think out of all the potential options, he was the best one that was gonna come in and
50:07
compete and push JJ McCarthy.
50:10
You know?
50:11
Yeah.
50:11
It's questionable.
50:13
Is he gonna watch film?
50:14
Is he gonna take it serious, or is he gonna be streaming, playing Call of Duty and stuff like
50:18
that?
50:19
But I think the bigger thing we gotta look at is not only, excuse me, not only did we get
50:26
Kyler Murray, but we reassigned Carson Wentz and brought him back.
50:32
If you gotta think, Carson Wentz isn't gonna sign that contract and come back to be the
50:38
backup to the backup.
50:39
You know what I'm saying?
50:40
Yeah.
50:41
I I think it's definitely I mean, especially after getting the shoulder repaired, you might
50:46
just be signing a contract to stay on the insurance.
50:50
Yeah.
50:50
Me too.
50:52
Me too, Philip Rivers.
50:53
Philip Rivers.
50:55
Nice.
50:55
The Vikings doing him a solid in that, but that third quarterback role, especially with the
51:02
other rules now that they have, he might never see the field this year anyway, but he's gonna
51:07
get a nice a nice check and to to kinda be around and to develop maybe both of these guys.
51:14
Right?
51:14
To be your in the quarterback room coach, you know, you got another young coach and, you
51:21
know, we still have McDaniels as the or not McDaniels.
51:28
McCown.
51:28
Yeah.
51:29
That was the
51:29
Or did he did he
51:32
level up?
51:33
Nope.
51:33
Nope.
51:34
He's still there.
51:35
If we still got McCardell, please tell me we still got McCardell.
51:39
Keenan McCardell, wide receiver coach.
51:42
Let's see.
51:43
We'll look on that.
51:44
But, you know, I just you never say never with that third quarterback.
51:51
Never say never because look what happened in Seattle.
51:54
You know what I'm saying?
51:58
A receiver coach.
52:05
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52:06
Yeah.
52:07
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52:15
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52:16
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52:16
Let's do that.
52:18
I figured let's get them in there.
52:19
I don't wanna keep waiting on last time we did a very at the very end, I was like, oh, shoot.
52:26
That's all good.
52:26
They they don't
52:27
pay us anything.
52:28
This is out of the goodness of our hearts.
52:30
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Just want the goldie.
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I'll pay for the shipping.
52:46
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52:46
Kidney Mercado is still the wide receiver coach.
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Back here again.
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Wanted to address this comment from Norris Fiest.
53:59
This fan base is insane, though.
54:01
All kinds of nut hugging going on.
54:03
I'm okay with an honest competition, but don't trust KOC, the snake oil salesman, not one bit.
54:15
I I agree and disagree kinda with that comment.
54:19
I we we know what KLC could do to rejuvenate veteran quarterback.
54:26
So if we could build a good offensive line, I think I think we're sitting pretty with Murray.
54:35
I still wanna see what he could do with the young quarterback like McCarthy, like Max.
54:40
You know, that's something that he has to prove.
54:45
And, again, yeah, definitely bring in open competition.
54:48
I mean, you know, coach Cody could probably even say even on his teams, you know, you got
54:53
two quarterbacks.
54:54
Hey.
54:54
Let them battle it out.
54:55
You got four receivers.
54:56
Let them battle it out for the starting job.
54:58
I mean, you know, competition doesn't hurt anybody.
55:01
I mean, in even in our day to day job, you know, it it doesn't hurt to have a a little
55:07
competition.
55:07
I mean, you still wanna get the job done.
55:09
You still want quality, you know, and stuff like that.
55:13
So, you know, I'm, you know, I'm kinda like you, Bubba.
55:16
I'm kind of like, well, we all paid a mil and some change for Murray.
55:21
Good good deal there.
55:24
It's a lose win, I think.
55:26
Or it might even be a win win.
55:28
You know, if if the Vikings don't do good, they all pay Murray a a mil or 2.
55:32
You know, Vikings start doing good, when do we talk?
55:35
Do we talk contact
55:36
Kyler the starts and they suck, KOC is done.
55:42
He's cool.
55:42
Oh, yeah.
55:43
I I KOC is I I I would say that going into this season, KOC is probably on the hot seat
55:52
simmering right now.
55:53
But, yeah, if they if they sputter out, you know, one and four, zero and five, one and
56:00
five, and Murray's not doing good, yeah, KLC is probably on his way.
56:06
Yeah.
56:07
I think it's gonna be interesting.
56:09
I know I'm just popping in here real quick, but I think it's gonna be interesting the fact
56:13
that, you know, KOC, you know, Big B, you and I have been talking about this past week, but,
56:19
Bubba, to catch you up, you know, KOC has always been that quarterback whisperer.
56:25
Right?
56:26
But we found out last year that it was mainly with, veteran quarterbacks.
56:32
Right?
56:33
So it's gonna be interesting to see Tyler Murray.
56:37
It fits that that mold, you know, fits that, criteria of that veteran style quarterback.
56:44
So we'll see if he can turn him around and, you know, have a resurrection year or a Josh Dobbs
56:51
year or something like that.
56:53
To me, where where KOC has had success is with guys that were like him, right, that were into
57:01
the study and studied more because they didn't have all the physical gifts.
57:06
Right?
57:06
And now you're getting someone who's the opposite.
57:09
Hell.
57:09
Yeah.
57:10
Getting someone who has written their physical gifts this entire time and hasn't studied at
57:16
all.
57:17
Right?
57:18
So you're not getting the level of a cerebral player that I think you have in the past.
57:23
Even a guy like Josh Dobbs, and I think Sam is this guy all over, understands the game at a
57:30
high level, maybe just doesn't have the tools or the decision making at the end of the day to
57:36
beat that, you know, that top 10 of all time quarterback.
57:41
Right?
57:41
That guy that you're like, he makes the right decision every time.
57:45
Yeah.
57:46
And the more makes
57:47
the throws that you just can't believe.
57:49
Right?
57:50
Well, that and the fact that, like, I just you know?
57:54
And and this is one of my biggest pet peeves, but some people make it to a certain point, and
58:00
then they're like, I'm good.
58:03
I'm I'm golden.
58:05
But I I like and I connect with those people that get to a certain level, and they're like,
58:12
there's always another one that I can get up to.
58:14
And they stay hungry and stuff like that.
58:16
And I think Kyler, like you said, born silver spoon in his mouth, given all the abilities.
58:23
You know what I'm saying?
58:24
Strong-arm, quick as hell, shifty, you know, and can make those plays, but it's like, long
58:32
is that gonna how long can you bank on that?
58:36
Just that.
58:36
You know what I'm saying, man?
58:37
The last season.
58:39
Right.
58:40
Well, and the and the thing is too is, you know, he's coming into our organization, JJ
58:46
Jefferson's organization.
58:49
So, I mean, Jefferson's also gonna have to be like, hey, dude.
58:51
This is how we roll here.
58:54
You know, kinda like, you know Good point.
58:56
You know, your, you know, in coach you, you bring somebody new in that, yeah, might be a
59:01
stud, but, hey, you're coming into our system, you're coming into here, you need to learn how
59:07
we do things and we'll be good.
59:09
If you can't, like Ty said, well, like Ty said, if you're not gonna be one of us, then, you
59:16
know, let's ship you out.
59:17
So Well, no.
59:18
Never been a a good request.
59:20
This handle came.
59:21
Yeah.
59:22
And that's that's a 100% big deal.
59:24
I wanna point that out real quick.
59:25
And Ty Ty has learned them real quick.
59:27
Ty and Brad, they they're quick learners because, I mean, like, we have our defense set.
59:34
Okay?
59:35
Mhmm.
59:35
Now throughout the year, especially in arena, there's people getting, picked up and signed to
59:41
higher leagues, and that's that's our main goal.
59:44
You know?
59:45
And so far, we've had out of the 10, 10 players that or 12 players that are brought to camp, 10
59:52
have not only been signed, but have been signed and, you know, given a shot to higher leagues
59:58
after this one's done.
1:00:00
And that that just makes me happy as hell.
1:00:02
But it's the it's the fact that, you know, I just I want the I I don't know.
1:00:13
I I guess I don't know what I'm trying to say is other than I like, these players need to
1:00:18
understand, like, there's more there's always more in to stay hungry.
1:00:22
You know what I'm saying?
1:00:24
I mean and and that could be said in our day to day jobs.
1:00:27
I mean, you know, just because you're in charge doesn't mean there's not stuff to be better at,
1:00:35
you know, and stuff like that.
1:00:37
I mean, you know, I work at the local casino area, yeah, and I always try to do the best I
1:00:41
can for my employees, for my department, and, you know, nothing's gonna slow me down.
1:00:47
And I I like the resigning of Carson Wentz because, I mean, in all honesty, had he not
1:00:53
gotten hurt, he probably would have been MVP of that Super Bowl and not Nick Foles.
1:00:58
Let's just be honest.
1:00:59
Nick Foles.
1:01:01
Like, Nick Foles rode rode that dude's coattails the whole way, had a game of his
1:01:07
lifetime, and got Super Bowl MVP.
1:01:10
Hold on.
1:01:11
Let me puke real quick.
1:01:12
Like like, that's it's disgusting to me.
1:01:15
Damn it.
1:01:16
Well, but I also too before I mean, I think he was on pace to be MVP of the league that year.
1:01:22
Really?
1:01:22
He was like so we so you got so you got you know, didn't Murray won MVP, didn't he?
1:01:31
Murray and Dom.
1:01:32
Murray got MVP.
1:01:33
No.
1:01:34
Alright.
1:01:34
Alright.
1:01:34
Well, you got at least a quarterback who's been there and done that, and now you got Murray.
1:01:40
Hopefully, he can learn something from the the redheaded dude.
1:01:43
But, like, JJ McCarthy, what do you guys what do you guys think his mindset is right here?
1:01:51
Like, alright.
1:01:53
They brought in Murray.
1:01:54
They they brought back in Wentz, and I got my ass benched for Wentz, but I was hurt at the
1:02:00
same time.
1:02:01
I mean, yeah.
1:02:02
Did he get benched or was he hurt?
1:02:03
I mean, that's the question.
1:02:04
I'm the baby.
1:02:05
To me, if I'm Murray, I'm or or if I'm JJ, I go into the mindset that, you know, okay.
1:02:13
They haven't named Murray the starter.
1:02:15
They haven't named me the starter, but I've been here, this is my, you know, second year,
1:02:20
you know, start as a player, well, third year technically, but, you know, this is this is my
1:02:26
job to lose.
1:02:27
I'm gonna go out there and put in the extra work and stuff like that, you know, and show
1:02:32
that I can be there, you know, day I'm gonna be the first one through those doors.
1:02:37
I'm gonna be the last one through those doors leaving every practice, you know, so that that
1:02:43
that would be my mindset.
1:02:44
I I
1:02:45
hope that I hope that I hope he comes in here and he's like, this is my show.
1:02:50
You know, I hope that.
1:02:51
And I hope that he brings upon a a new attitude and forces JJ to grow into that, like, he ain't
1:03:03
taking my shit.
1:03:04
And then we get a real battle going.
1:03:06
See, don't you think that JJ is that guy, though?
1:03:10
Like, just what I mean, I I think it back to the, that game towards the end of the season
1:03:17
where he lays the shoulder on the guy and then he's getting in his face.
1:03:21
To me, that's not a guy who's just gonna let someone come in who signed a vet minimum deal
1:03:27
regardless how long they've been in the league and let that man take his job away from his
1:03:32
wife and his family.
1:03:33
No.
1:03:34
I don't think he'd let anybody I mean, maybe outside of Pat Mahomes coming in, but I don't
1:03:39
think he's letting anybody take his job.
1:03:41
You know?
1:03:42
Well, I'm not just saying that kind that kind of caliber quarterback.
1:03:48
You know?
1:03:49
I mean, okay, Brady might be another one that, you know, if he was still around.
1:03:54
But, I mean, even if Aaron Rogers would've came in
1:03:57
Tom played in the flag football.
1:03:58
If they went to flag football, man, Tom might have another decade left.
1:04:02
Yeah.
1:04:03
Yo.
1:04:03
Know him about that.
1:04:05
He he still got some moves, and he still got that arm.
1:04:08
He
1:04:09
ain't He looks He's not gonna lose that butts,
1:04:11
but it's the velocity.
1:04:13
Yeah.
1:04:13
Like, that's football is my getting his playing days.
1:04:17
He's forty pounds lighter.
1:04:19
And
1:04:20
But, hey.
1:04:20
Now that now now that we're on that subject, what was the did we lose that game?
1:04:27
We, meaning, like, the NFL players?
1:04:31
What game are we talking about?
1:04:33
The flag football one.
1:04:34
No.
1:04:35
No.
1:04:36
They won by, like, 97 combined points or something
1:04:39
in the two games.
1:04:40
The NFL did?
1:04:42
I thought so.
1:04:43
Yeah.
1:04:43
I just see the All all the all the clips that I saw, we were getting at work, and it was
1:04:49
embarrassing.
1:04:51
Flight football.
1:04:52
Let's see here.
1:04:54
So Didn't Logan Paul do the actual Team USA dominated Tom Brady and yeah.
1:05:00
So there so two days ago, I'm just reading a quick clip here.
1:05:05
Flag football classic, Team USA dominated Tom Brady, Joe Burrow, and the other NFL stars.
1:05:13
That's what I thought.
1:05:15
Yeah.
1:05:15
Hey.
1:05:15
What who's
1:05:16
Team USA then?
1:05:18
Team USA is a bunch of flag football players.
1:05:21
Like, bunch of you never know, never will know.
1:05:24
You know what I'm saying?
1:05:26
But they work the show
1:05:28
out of playoffs.
1:05:29
Now they're getting contracts.
1:05:32
Way to go, Joe Burrow.
1:05:34
Yeah.
1:05:35
So Yeah.
1:05:36
Aren't you glad we didn't get him?
1:05:38
I I want Mike Vick, but Minnesota's too soft.
1:05:42
Team USA didn't just win.
1:05:44
They peer dominated.
1:05:45
It scored on every possession in all three contests outside of one nil before halftime.
1:05:53
It it all it outscored its opponents one zero six to 44.
1:06:00
Yeah.
1:06:01
See, when they said team USA, I thought I thought we were team USA.
1:06:05
Yeah.
1:06:06
No.
1:06:06
I did too, but there's the team USA flag football, and then they wanted to be like, yo.
1:06:12
We'll wax all your NFL guys, and they straight did it.
1:06:15
So, I mean, two games in the dramatic fashion.
1:06:21
Yeah.
1:06:21
So round round one, team USA versus the wildcat FFC, thirty nine fourteen.
1:06:27
Round two, team USA 44, founders FFC 16.
1:06:33
And then it was the Wildcats founders.
1:06:36
Those are it was a 30 fours, 26.
1:06:39
Wildcat winning in a championship game was 24 to 14 US team USA won it.
1:06:46
So
1:06:48
So all the all those NFL players that wanted to talk shit on the flag football can just hit the
1:06:54
lip.
1:06:57
You know, long story short, we could just
1:06:59
It's a different game.
1:07:00
Right?
1:07:01
Well I mean I mean Yeah.
1:07:03
Like, do the splits and and fall down through the contact.
1:07:08
And
1:07:09
Well and, I mean, you're not just, like, you're not just being, like, see target, hit target.
1:07:16
It's, hey.
1:07:16
I gotta grab this flag.
1:07:18
Yeah.
1:07:18
Everywhere.
1:07:20
You know?
1:07:21
Yeah.
1:07:21
Not as not as easy as you may think,
1:07:24
for sure.
1:07:25
I can I can I can run into a dude and hope he falls?
1:07:29
But if I'm trying to grab a flag fluttering on everywhere, I mean, I might as well just tackle
1:07:35
to do it in general.
1:07:38
Yeah.
1:07:38
It's gonna be interesting to see what happens when they because of the Olympic sport, see how
1:07:43
long it stays.
1:07:44
I hope it stays.
1:07:47
I it's got legs, man, for sure.
1:07:49
Well, I just I mean, I hope we'll know you're NFL player for the day.
1:07:54
Current players go and play in the Olympics.
1:07:56
Hey, fellas.
1:07:57
After this call, I got a I got a business opportunity that we should get into.
1:08:03
Oh, uh-oh.
1:08:05
Hey.
1:08:05
The market's like that.
1:08:07
The market is like that.
1:08:08
Starting to flag football semi protein.
1:08:15
So but Let's go.
1:08:17
Let let's get into the big guy that the Vikings signed.
1:08:21
Yeah.
1:08:22
I was just looking at it and looking them up.
1:08:25
I actually know a couple of Buffalo Bill fans at work, and they they like to sign in for
1:08:30
Minnesota.
1:08:30
They think we signed him to the right deal.
1:08:34
He's gonna come in.
1:08:35
I'm just trying to find his name offhand.
1:08:39
Are they are they really your friends at work, and would they really be honest about contract?
1:08:43
Yeah.
1:08:44
I would I would one of the one of the guys for sure is straight up.
1:08:49
I mean, we talk every day almost football related stuff.
1:08:53
So no.
1:08:55
I I would I would I would say he's 100% with me.
1:08:58
So
1:08:59
Speaking of that, hey.
1:09:01
You just pick you just pick a color, what color you want.
1:09:06
Message me a size.
1:09:07
I gotcha.
1:09:09
I gotcha.
1:09:09
I actually honestly, I I like that gold.
1:09:12
Yo.
1:09:13
And that that goes hard.
1:09:15
You know what I'm saying?
1:09:16
Yeah.
1:09:16
It's got
1:09:17
the logo on it.
1:09:19
Like, this one's the new one.
1:09:20
You feel me?
1:09:22
Okay.
1:09:22
Just for everybody, I mean, I got helmet decals, helmet stickers.
1:09:29
You know what I'm saying?
1:09:30
There you go.
1:09:30
Brian Brian Van Demark.
1:09:33
So yeah.
1:09:34
And What was that?
1:09:35
What what that's who we signed.
1:09:38
So it was a one year deal, fully guaranteed, 4,600,000.0.
1:09:44
So at least they're doing some, you know, side of that offensive line.
1:09:49
Center.
1:09:50
Let's see here.
1:09:55
Offensive tackle.
1:09:57
Oh, so right tackle.
1:09:59
Right.
1:09:59
Yeah.
1:09:59
Right tackle.
1:10:00
Hey.
1:10:01
How old is this fool?
1:10:03
When are you
1:10:04
gonna harvest?
1:10:04
How many years in the league?
1:10:06
He's, from Yukon.
1:10:08
He's six six three zero seven.
1:10:11
He's 28.
1:10:13
His birthday is, a matter of fact, two days ago.
1:10:18
Birthday.
1:10:20
Swing tackle.
1:10:21
Yeah.
1:10:21
I would say so, for sure.
1:10:24
But, I mean What did he say?
1:10:26
Is this is that official?
1:10:28
Norsvius, Brandel moving to center?
1:10:30
I said that was one of the moves that I liked.
1:10:32
We shouldn't do that.
1:10:35
It would make it would make sense.
1:10:36
Let's see here.
1:10:39
Vandermark's fifth year in
1:10:41
the Yep.
1:10:41
Blake Blake is listed right now as the starting center.
1:10:46
Oh, he wasn't
1:10:46
gonna be playing time anywhere else.
1:10:50
Awesome.
1:10:51
No.
1:10:51
I think the offensive line and I've said this off bat.
1:10:54
I know everybody, you know, whose offensive line was a huge need.
1:10:58
This is exactly what I thought they would do.
1:11:00
You're gonna get some vets in here.
1:11:03
You might sign another one yet and see who's available right before the season possibly to
1:11:08
bolster that line.
1:11:10
But if you just get a 100% healthy Derosaw back, that improves your line by probably five
1:11:18
ranking spots.
1:11:20
Right?
1:11:20
Like, just having your all pro tackle healthy is going to improve the play of that line.
1:11:28
So you add a little bit.
1:11:29
You slide Brandel to center.
1:11:30
I I like that move.
1:11:32
Yep.
1:11:32
Something the guys at Purple Daily talked a lot about.
1:11:35
I didn't think they were ever going to go a big splash there.
1:11:40
They didn't have the money to make a splash at that position nor were you really in a position
1:11:45
to pick there in the draft.
1:11:46
So makes a ton of sense to me that they would do that.
1:11:50
Any other signs be that has happened?
1:11:54
Have we signed anybody besides him?
1:11:58
Let me see here.
1:11:59
Minnesota,
1:12:02
Viking Obviously, Kyler was the was the big one.
1:12:07
Siding.
1:12:07
Let's see here.
1:12:10
Kyler Wentz, Hecker the punter, Andrew DePola agreed to terms.
1:12:23
Pace is coming back for a year.
1:12:26
Pierce and Thomas both agreed.
1:12:30
So yeah.
1:12:30
The I mean, Tyler and, you know, DeMarco are the two outsiders that came in.
1:12:38
Hacker, of course.
1:12:39
But yeah.
1:12:40
No.
1:12:41
They're they're they're slowly moving into some, you know, getting some player, but, I
1:12:47
mean, of course, we're not, you know, making big splashes.
1:12:51
I mean, when Caliber is your biggest splash right now, I mean yeah.
1:12:57
Small pool.
1:12:58
Small pool.
1:12:59
Big splash.
1:13:00
Yeah.
1:13:01
Small pool.
1:13:02
Big splash.
1:13:03
James, don't need to stop eating I I mean paper.
1:13:06
Stop it.
1:13:08
I'd like to see them, you know, bolster their you know, I I'm not a big Jones fan, but I'm
1:13:13
not I hate it on them, but I I think they need to make a different move there, I think.
1:13:19
Where?
1:13:20
At running back.
1:13:22
Yeah.
1:13:22
Well, they let Aaron Jones go, didn't they?
1:13:25
Well, he's still list he's still listed on the depth chart.
1:13:28
But
1:13:28
Oh, I thought that was one they they I think they're gonna cut him.
1:13:31
Yeah.
1:13:31
They they had made that intention Yeah.
1:13:33
Trying to, restructure Hawk's deal.
1:13:37
So, obviously, no news on that yet, I'm assuming.
1:13:41
Well, they restructured quite a few deals because they ended up going into the off season
1:13:46
or signing 14,000,000 above cap.
1:13:50
So we're getting money somewhere.
1:13:54
Well, I think they restructured on Jefferson's deal, didn't they?
1:13:57
They kicked
1:13:58
it off.
1:13:58
Well, that's the one they had to do, I think, for sure.
1:14:01
But Right.
1:14:02
Right.
1:14:02
I think Hockison wants to restructure just to stay here.
1:14:05
So you know?
1:14:06
Well, good for him.
1:14:07
You know, it's probably the only place where he's gonna get to play.
1:14:10
So a smart business decision as well.
1:14:12
I I don't think a lot of other teams are are are reaching for that in a guy at the tail end
1:14:18
of his career coming off that big injury, you know, last year and just wasn't the same guy
1:14:25
back on the field.
1:14:26
I hope we get him back to, you know, 80% of what he was when he was, you know, a top tight
1:14:32
end in the league.
1:14:33
So much cat hair.
1:14:34
My goodness.
1:14:35
Just every
1:14:37
Well, and that's the thing too is, you know, you you bolster that offensive line.
1:14:44
You could do different things, you know, and the running game will help.
1:14:47
And, you know, the rumor you know, and I don't I know kind of Cody's feelings on this one,
1:14:54
but, you know, blah blah blah.
1:14:55
What's your thoughts that d DeAndre Hopkins wants to reunite with Murray in Minnesota here?
1:15:03
Yeah.
1:15:03
He can reunite with him all he wants to, but Kyler probably ain't gonna be on the field
1:15:08
unless JJ's hurt.
1:15:11
Okay.
1:15:13
I just I I think it's a reality, man.
1:15:15
I just don't think that a guy that doesn't wanna study tape and doesn't wanna get in his
1:15:20
playbook is gonna come in and learn a complicated system in a short amount of time
1:15:27
and be ready to be named the day one starter.
1:15:30
We're rolling with this guy because KOC has to know if it looks like trash starting the
1:15:37
season, you're done.
1:15:38
So as KOC for me, I'm wanting to put the ball in the guy's hand that has seen this for the
1:15:44
last two and a half years, although he hasn't been able to stay healthy, which is a problem,
1:15:50
it's also out of his control.
1:15:52
Is he controlling the things that he can't?
1:15:54
And the fact that you saw a much improved team at the end of the year with JJ McCarthy at the
1:16:01
helm tells me that he was picking up the things that were going on in essentially what was his
1:16:07
rookie year of being on the field.
1:16:09
You know?
1:16:10
Taking into account again, a big part of that injury in his true rookie year, he didn't
1:16:16
practice.
1:16:16
Right?
1:16:17
Like, yes.
1:16:18
So last year was his first time actually taking reps in practice and learning to that way.
1:16:25
And now you put a little pressure behind him.
1:16:28
Yeah.
1:16:29
This is where you make a stud and you make a star out of JJ McCarthy, and I think the young
1:16:35
man has it in him.
1:16:36
I don't think that he's some kind of bust.
1:16:39
I don't think that he is the kid's been nothing but a champion his entire career.
1:16:44
His entire you don't get to that level and play with those.
1:16:47
It's not luck.
1:16:49
Right?
1:16:49
Like, it it
1:16:51
Well, there I mean, there's I mean, we could definitely count on our hands how many first
1:16:56
round draft picks have flopped that it's looks like, oh, we thought they were good.
1:17:00
You know?
1:17:01
So, I mean, yeah, you don't get there without being a competitor, without being a winner, you
1:17:08
know, and stuff like that.
1:17:09
And, you know, again, I mean, you know, JJ's still young.
1:17:13
He's what?
1:17:14
22, 23 going on '20
1:17:17
four?
1:17:18
Be turned 23 when he starts
1:17:20
Yeah.
1:17:20
Yeah.
1:17:21
JJ under center, you know, no reliability.
1:17:26
Yeah.
1:17:26
23 different o line combinations.
1:17:28
You can
1:17:29
Hold on.
1:17:30
That I mean, half our dudes had concussions, like, three or four times a year.
1:17:36
Let's let's let's let's be realistic here before we put that out.
1:17:42
It might be true, but let's just
1:17:45
Well and that's the whole thing is you gotta have a solid offensive line.
1:17:49
I mean, yeah, 23 combinations.
1:17:51
I mean, we can look at any sport like basketball, baseball.
1:17:54
If you have, you know, a 100 different lineups into your season and I don't see how
1:18:01
any I don't see how any quarterback is successful with that amount of revolving
1:18:06
door No.
1:18:07
No.
1:18:07
No.
1:18:08
No.
1:18:08
Offensive line.
1:18:09
All I was saying is
1:18:10
what's happening.
1:18:10
Properly.
1:18:11
But you
1:18:12
gotta you gotta wear that trunk, you gotta know your guys are gonna be there.
1:18:16
You gotta know how they block and stuff like that.
1:18:18
So, yeah, we got
1:18:19
from a a quarterback or running back standpoint, your offensive linemen need to know
1:18:25
where the guy next to him is gonna be and and trust that blindly.
1:18:30
So Yeah.
1:18:31
I I don't think we got a fair look at who JJ McCarthy is as a player last year.
1:18:36
I think people jump to a lot of conclusions, and I I think a lot of them are gonna be wrong.
1:18:42
And I may be wrong.
1:18:43
Right?
1:18:43
I'm not No.
1:18:44
We all may be
1:18:45
wrong.
1:18:45
MVP.
1:18:46
But but we also heard too that the quarterbacks typically take a year and a half to understand
1:18:54
the football side of things for the NFL.
1:18:58
Yeah.
1:18:59
Because
1:18:59
he's only played, what, nine games?
1:19:01
So give him next year.
1:19:03
You know, so so like but again, we've already talked about it.
1:19:07
KLC is going into the season of Ahasu because if he starts off, you know, on whatever or one
1:19:14
or whatever, I mean, yeah, the the fiery chants are gonna start coming.
1:19:20
Yeah.
1:19:21
And I I would argue that Joe Burrow hasn't done it without an o line.
1:19:25
He ends up hurt every year because he's getting murdered behind the line.
1:19:29
So Exactly.
1:19:30
Did he have that one or two years where they made the playoffs?
1:19:34
Right?
1:19:34
They made the AFC championship game and lost one year, and then they made it to a Super
1:19:38
Bowl, like, the following year.
1:19:40
But
1:19:40
I mean, the only thing that Burrow the only thing that Burrow has that I think would be a a
1:19:47
a factor is he's beaten you know, I think he owns a winning record against Mahomes.
1:19:52
I think he owns a winning record against Allen.
1:19:56
So he's beaten technically the two biggest quarterbacks in the league.
1:20:01
So, you know, I mean, I think that's why everybody wants him is because he showed that
1:20:06
he can step up in big games like that.
1:20:11
All sides are where I can't do that many
1:20:13
So yeah.
1:20:14
Totally.
1:20:14
Exactly.
1:20:15
He can look good, but he's never going to reach that that level, that championship level
1:20:22
without an offensive line out there.
1:20:24
So, yeah, it's really Well,
1:20:26
I mean, we could talk about Seattle.
1:20:28
I mean, look at their offensive line compared to other offensive lines and how Sam Darnold
1:20:34
did.
1:20:35
Heck, look at what JSA just got paid because of what they did and what he did.
1:20:40
And so it shows that, you know That's
1:20:43
such a scam.
1:20:44
That's such a
1:20:46
so, hey.
1:20:47
Hey.
1:20:48
For all you if
1:20:50
you have one good year on a contract, you're gonna get paid.
1:20:53
No.
1:20:53
No.
1:20:53
No.
1:20:54
That's totally fine.
1:20:55
But it's the aftermath of it.
1:20:57
For all you younger folks out there, I just wanted to point this out.
1:21:02
What was his contract?
1:21:03
Like, $4,050,000,000, but after taxes, he's getting 21?
1:21:07
Fuck all that.
1:21:09
I don't care.
1:21:10
Fuck.
1:21:11
You gotta move.
1:21:12
You gotta put your residency in, like, Idaho and do something.
1:21:17
Yeah, man.
1:21:17
I would not wanna play in a liberal city in a liberal state.
1:21:21
That's a
1:21:22
You think That's what I said.
1:21:24
A lot of people They're like or or players don't wanna come to Minnesota because of taxes.
1:21:29
If think about
1:21:30
if you think about these assholes, you think I'm gonna work my ass off and dedicate my life
1:21:36
to this sport that I have love for, deep love for and passion for, for you to take over half
1:21:44
of my fucking earnings, you can get licked.
1:21:48
I don't care who you are.
1:21:49
You can get But
1:21:50
that's that the thing too is, you know, they they only you know, they gotta pay in Seattle,
1:21:56
but you also have to pay taxes for because you worked in Minnesota.
1:22:00
You worked everywhere you gotta go, you gotta pay the the taxes out there.
1:22:03
So pay
1:22:04
income tax in every state that you play in?
1:22:06
Every state.
1:22:07
Yeah.
1:22:08
Yes.
1:22:09
That's why I'm just like, yo.
1:22:11
Whoever made up these rules, right near Freddie's man.
1:22:15
And and that's just like comedians and entertainers.
1:22:18
They gotta, you know, have good accountants that they gotta pay all these players.
1:22:23
How guys.
1:22:24
Tell me how could d g
1:22:26
b Don't pay taxes.
1:22:27
That's the reason all do.
1:22:28
B.
1:22:29
No taxation without representation or
1:22:31
You feel me?
1:22:32
Like reverence.
1:22:33
I just want I just want these players to realize, like, yeah.
1:22:36
Hey.
1:22:37
He might be the highest paid player right now at his position, but you gotta dig deeper than
1:22:43
that shit.
1:22:44
You gotta dig deeper than that because this dude is getting it right up the rear end.
1:22:49
I'm sorry.
1:22:51
I'm sorry.
1:22:52
I'm sorry.
1:22:53
Over half of your millions are done.
1:22:57
Hello?
1:22:57
I'm smashing.
1:22:58
Just the the thing the lightning bolt that was the power ball on how much money they actually
1:23:03
walked away with.
1:23:03
I mean
1:23:04
I didn't I but while we're on that, I'd take the lump sum and get the hell out of there.
1:23:10
Well, yeah, they're they're young enough.
1:23:11
I mean, a guy like me and, you know, almost hit 50, I think I'd I mean, I'd probably take the
1:23:17
lump sum now, but I I think if I'm back, you know, 18 to 21, I think I'm just taking the
1:23:22
yearly payout just because then I have cash all the time and just kind of, you know
1:23:27
They found they found a way to take that from you without having to pay it all out.
1:23:31
Don't worry.
1:23:32
Hey.
1:23:32
Look at that.
1:23:33
At
1:23:34
dude that that dude in, I think, Michigan.
1:23:37
He just got out of prison for not telling them where the, like, the gold from some shipwreck
1:23:44
was.
1:23:44
Oh.
1:23:45
Like, that dude's I
1:23:47
ain't telling you nothing.
1:23:49
I swear by damn time.
1:23:51
You know?
1:23:52
Yeah.
1:23:53
Ain't telling you shit.
1:23:54
Norsfias asked, so tell me how JJ could become what he could be.
1:24:01
For me
1:24:02
An office design.
1:24:03
Yeah.
1:24:04
I mean, it's a big start, a running game.
1:24:07
It is I mean I mean, that's
1:24:11
the whole thing is going back to old school football philosophy.
1:24:15
The running game sets up the pass again.
1:24:17
The pass sets up the run game.
1:24:19
And what's the counterfact of that?
1:24:20
The offensive line is there to block and open up holes.
1:24:23
Yo.
1:24:24
That makes me wonder.
1:24:25
Tell me how JJ could become what he could be.
1:24:28
He could finish out under his fourth year here on his rookie contract and then go take Sam
1:24:35
Darnold's job in Seattle and go be a Super Bowl champion behind that team.
1:24:40
Because that's literally how you win football games.
1:24:42
It would it would also help
1:24:44
if he had a number two receiver with his head out of his ass.
1:24:48
Yeah.
1:24:48
And you think they're able to move him?
1:24:50
I'm just being honest.
1:24:52
Like
1:24:53
Are they able to move him?
1:24:54
Of course.
1:24:55
Is there any team willing to take him?
1:24:57
That's the question.
1:24:59
Well,
1:25:01
I think I think there's gotta there's gotta be a team out there willing to take him because of
1:25:06
the athletic ability, but it's we're not we're not gonna give them away for nothing.
1:25:11
Well, no.
1:25:12
We're not gonna give them away for nothing.
1:25:13
I'm not gonna
1:25:14
give them says
1:25:15
take that money.
1:25:16
These lottery companies fold over constantly to forego paying out the year.
1:25:21
Yeah.
1:25:21
Good.
1:25:21
Yeah.
1:25:22
That money.
1:25:23
Yes.
1:25:23
You take that money.
1:25:24
You take about three fourths of it.
1:25:26
You win you buy some rental properties, then you invest the rest of it.
1:25:31
I'm hey.
1:25:33
After this call, I told you, got I this plan.
1:25:37
Trust me.
1:25:38
But, I mean
1:25:39
We said this.
1:25:40
Right?
1:25:40
If Addison's not suspended for his games, you win you win one more and you're in the
1:25:45
playoffs.
1:25:46
Right?
1:25:46
You win one more.
1:25:47
You don't stop you stop the bears from making that Yeah.
1:25:51
Return.
1:25:52
I mean, I mean, the whole season I mean, that's that's the whole thing about sports.
1:25:55
The ball bounces one way or the other.
1:25:58
You know?
1:26:00
Yeah.
1:26:00
But that's that's a luck that's a luck thing.
1:26:02
This was this was just a
1:26:04
Oh, yeah.
1:26:04
I mean, you know.
1:26:07
Yeah.
1:26:07
We definitely could say that in a lot of scenarios.
1:26:10
You know?
1:26:13
Hold on, fellas.
1:26:14
I'll be right back.
1:26:15
I got check ribs.
1:26:17
Alright.
1:26:18
Did you say check ribs?
1:26:19
I mean, why did I get invited for that?
1:26:21
I mean Yeah.
1:26:22
Well, you're right.
1:26:23
You know what?
1:26:23
They can't go into the damn world and
1:26:26
You're right down the street.
1:26:28
Yeah.
1:26:29
And Yeah.
1:26:32
I mean, you know and and that's one thing.
1:26:34
And that and, Bubba, I think you said it too.
1:26:36
KLC doesn't wanna run the ball.
1:26:38
I mean, we need to run the ball to set the pass.
1:26:40
I mean, we need to pass to set the run.
1:26:43
So they gotta find a happy medium.
1:26:45
You know, I think we got the team to do it.
1:26:47
The offensive line, you know, looks to be coming in together.
1:26:50
Can they hold it together?
1:26:52
Is is gonna be another question.
1:26:53
I mean, you said it too.
1:26:55
You know, four years, you know, when his contract's out, where is he gonna go?
1:26:59
I mean, what what what are the odds that we lose another quarterback young enough, and I
1:27:06
know Sam Arnold's been around, but goes to another team on first year, leads them right to
1:27:10
the Super Bowl.
1:27:10
I mean, what what are the odds of that happening?
1:27:14
You know?
1:27:15
And if KLC is here and that does happen, then you definitely gotta talk about, like, what's
1:27:20
going on?
1:27:20
Piring his ass right away.
1:27:21
Yeah.
1:27:22
What are your guys' biggest miss outs in free agency, the guy you wish we got?
1:27:26
Now we're we're all we're we're pretty realists here at the show and at the network.
1:27:31
We we knew we didn't have any money.
1:27:33
So I don't think any of us really set our sights in free agency on any one player that
1:27:39
was, you know, gonna be available because free agency is it's expensive, man.
1:27:45
It's not the way to build a team, but anybody on your list?
1:27:50
If we had the money like you said, we didn't have money going into free agency, so a lot of
1:27:55
big names.
1:27:56
If we had the money, I would've went after Walker the third.
1:28:02
Definitely, next choice probably would have been to go after one of the big defensive
1:28:08
players, Cosby or Trey, to bring them in.
1:28:15
But, yeah, we didn't have the money, so it's just like, okay.
1:28:18
Let the first wave go by, let's see who we get.
1:28:23
You know, with that being said, I mean, Kyle Murray mean, Cody said it, you said I've said
1:28:27
it.
1:28:27
Kyle Murray is probably the best option for what it cost.
1:28:32
But, yeah, if we have if we we had the money, I mean, I definitely would've for my first option
1:28:36
would've been, you know, once I heard Walker was not getting resigned, I would've thrown
1:28:43
what I can add him to bring him in into town here.
1:28:48
Yeah.
1:28:48
Well and that draws us back to KOZ doesn't wanna run the ball, so you don't wanna see him
1:28:53
make any play and and dedicate any resources to a running back.
1:28:58
Just crazy, man.
1:29:01
Yeah.
1:29:02
I mean, you know I mean, mean, the the option oh my god.
1:29:06
The breaking
1:29:07
I'm team not gonna claim that we have a a brain.
1:29:11
We just kind of address things a lot more from a real
1:29:16
You and and that's one thing a lot of teams are facing is all this dead cap.
1:29:20
I mean, you know, a lot of people are now saying that, yes, you know, so and so just
1:29:25
signed a five year deal x amount of billing, but realistically, most of those contracts, the
1:29:30
first or second year, they can readjust.
1:29:33
They could trade them and not have that dead cap, you know, space.
1:29:36
I mean, you know and then if you're a team like Miami that wants to eat up $99,000,000 to ship
1:29:43
your quarterback to Atlanta, I mean, why not?
1:29:47
No on k nine draft.
1:29:49
Well, I I get it.
1:29:53
I mean, but I mean, Love's the only running back out.
1:29:56
Oh, I I should say that.
1:29:57
Love is one of the running backs I want.
1:29:59
I want that other kid that was from Minnesota that was playing pretty good at it.
1:30:03
I can't remember his name off the top of my head.
1:30:05
But
1:30:05
In Nebraska.
1:30:06
Yeah.
1:30:07
The the Nebraska kid.
1:30:09
But how can you not, you know, Nervious and and, you know, you know, your opinion matters.
1:30:15
I don't know how you can't say no to k nine after what he did in the Super Bowl and stuff
1:30:21
like that.
1:30:21
I mean, you know, him and Mason together, think, would be a phenomenal tandem if we had
1:30:28
an offensive line.
1:30:29
Talking about Kenneth Walker?
1:30:30
Yeah.
1:30:31
We're we're talking about if we had the money, who was who would have been our our our guy?
1:30:37
Yes.
1:30:37
There you go.
1:30:39
Emmett Johnson, my dream of the draft also.
1:30:41
Yeah.
1:30:42
Yeah.
1:30:43
Yeah.
1:30:43
Really, we we need somebody that can do the dirty work.
1:30:46
We got a lot of flashy players on this team.
1:30:49
You know, you have a
1:30:51
a We need something like New York hoard.
1:30:53
We need we need role players.
1:30:55
We need guys that can get in and do their jobs.
1:30:58
What's up, buddy?
1:30:59
I want I want, like, a Steve Smith in that wide receiver room to go up Jordan Anderson's head
1:31:04
and just hey.
1:31:07
Get it together.
1:31:08
Yeah.
1:31:08
You wanna send somebody from Cedar Rapids?
1:31:11
Or
1:31:14
Hey.
1:31:15
Hey.
1:31:15
Now you're gonna get me in trouble.
1:31:17
Now you're gonna give me in trouble.
1:31:18
You're No.
1:31:19
But I mean I mean, you're talking about a round of, you know, a round of pound game.
1:31:22
I mean, I always loved a guy like Leroy Hoard because you knew he was good for a yard or two
1:31:28
and nothing more.
1:31:29
He even made that comment to himself.
1:31:31
I mean or or made the comment.
1:31:33
Hey.
1:31:34
Can you get us how many yards can you get?
1:31:36
He goes, like, three?
1:31:37
So can you see people
1:31:41
Rest in peace.
1:31:45
Oh, I mean, who knows?
1:31:51
Wait.
1:31:52
Isn't that the center from the timberwolves that passed away?
1:31:56
Am I just am I joking?
1:31:58
No.
1:31:59
Vlad Pekovic?
1:32:03
Hold on here.
1:32:04
Yo.
1:32:05
No.
1:32:05
I don't I don't think you're
1:32:07
Yo.
1:32:09
That that last name don't ring a bell.
1:32:13
Number 14 from Serbia.
1:32:16
Looking like this.
1:32:17
One eye that way.
1:32:17
One eye that way.
1:32:19
No.
1:32:19
He yeah.
1:32:20
No.
1:32:20
He's no.
1:32:22
He's not passed away.
1:32:24
Lutrell, I'm not thinking.
1:32:26
Oh, you're thinking of oh, I know who you're thinking of too.
1:32:34
Like, big old Serbian dude before before Dokic.
1:32:41
Oh, no.
1:32:41
I know what I'm thinking of.
1:32:45
Am I tripping?
1:32:46
I think I'm tripping now.
1:32:47
He is tripping.
1:32:48
They took one too many shots on that side.
1:32:52
It it it was Christian brothers.
1:32:54
It was Christian Brothers.
1:32:55
We're all good.
1:33:01
Minnesota, Tyrell.
1:33:04
No.
1:33:04
He is not.
1:33:05
What's Charles Freewell?
1:33:07
No.
1:33:07
Okay.
1:33:08
No.
1:33:08
He is not.
1:33:09
Malik Sealy, maybe, but Latrell Sprewell is still with us.
1:33:13
That's crazy work.
1:33:15
Anyway That's crazy work.
1:33:19
Says draft.
1:33:22
Draft.
1:33:22
K.
1:33:23
Spending too much on free agents is how we Yeah.
1:33:26
Totally.
1:33:27
Draft.
1:33:27
Do.
1:33:28
No doubt.
1:33:29
I I think Honestly, I think that Timmy is gonna fall to it.
1:33:33
Bolster the team that you have drafted already.
1:33:36
You can't build a team through free agency.
1:33:39
It's just not in this not in this day and age because nobody's worth the contract that they
1:33:44
signed two years down the road.
1:33:47
Right?
1:33:48
The same will be true of JSN, man.
1:33:50
Like, it's it's it's doesn't matter how good he plays.
1:33:55
He's not gonna be worth the money that you had to pay him this year.
1:33:58
Dang.
1:34:00
Who is that Colts wide receiver who just got a payday?
1:34:03
Pierce.
1:34:04
Okay.
1:34:05
Yeah.
1:34:05
Alright.
1:34:06
Decent.
1:34:07
But just because he's considered one of the, maybe, top five, top 10 wide receivers in the
1:34:14
free agency, and because free agency and all that money keeps on flowing, this dude's making
1:34:20
stupid money for absolutely nothing.
1:34:24
I I let me let me find a barrel I could skip the bottom of and find a better wide receiver
1:34:29
than him.
1:34:31
Something like that.
1:34:33
Well, and that's the thing is they they gave Danny Dimes the transitional tag, so he's gonna
1:34:39
get paid big time.
1:34:40
And then everybody's like, well, the culture gonna let Pierce walk, and then they signed him
1:34:44
to a pretty decent contract.
1:34:46
So
1:34:47
So two of their players just took out about seven years of their free agent money?
1:34:52
Yeah.
1:34:54
Well Good move.
1:34:55
Like I said, it it could be like it could be like, you know, dolphins who are eating
1:34:59
99,000,000 that they can't do nothing with.
1:35:02
Yeah.
1:35:03
They they put themselves in that situation as well.
1:35:06
If you honestly thought two of it was worth any of that, you know, like, you gotta either get
1:35:12
your eyes tested or just put down because he's even worth nothing like that.
1:35:17
I Oh, but It's still good.
1:35:19
Don't think he was worth it.
1:35:20
I think it was Katasha's really got to him.
1:35:22
Yeah.
1:35:23
I don't think he was that good to begin with, but I think the the market be because there's
1:35:29
only 32 guys that get that starting position.
1:35:32
Right?
1:35:33
So there's maybe, what, 45 quarterbacks that are really worth a starting job.
1:35:39
I would say maybe half of your half of your backups that are in the league could be
1:35:44
starters if they were on a different team.
1:35:46
Right?
1:35:47
Yeah.
1:35:47
Take take a, you know, San Francisco.
1:35:49
You got Brock Purdy, and you have the the guy that everybody wanted here in Minnesota.
1:35:55
Jones.
1:35:57
Mac Jones.
1:35:58
So you have maybe 45 guys that can do the job.
1:36:03
And if you're a middle of the road team, you're kinda stuck.
1:36:09
Right?
1:36:09
Like, you're not gonna be able to sign a free agent quarterback because they just don't come
1:36:14
available if they're good.
1:36:16
If they do come available, they cost way too much money.
1:36:19
So you end up giving a pile of money to a guy that you're like, you're putting those those
1:36:24
dolphin colored glasses on, right, or those purple colored glasses or those whatever
1:36:30
fucking color your team is.
1:36:32
And you're having to look at it.
1:36:36
And and that's just that's the reality of this business.
1:36:40
Right?
1:36:40
It just Well, and that's just reality of sports in general.
1:36:44
I mean, you know, you go, like you know, and I bring it up all the time is I would take any I
1:36:50
would make a a team from the eighties and nineties to put up against any of these modern
1:36:56
day teams, and I would almost guarantee that I'm winning, you know, nine out of 10 times.
1:37:01
Or Yeah.
1:37:02
The difference there is that you got different athletes now, and and it's a different set of
1:37:06
rules they play by.
1:37:07
So if you're putting any of these players back in nineteen nineties football rules, without
1:37:12
all the protections that they're they're
1:37:14
Well, yeah.
1:37:15
They're getting crushed.
1:37:16
Yeah.
1:37:16
I I would say there too.
1:37:18
But if you put somebody from the nineties out there, the level of athlete is just different
1:37:23
breed.
1:37:23
Right?
1:37:24
I'm just gonna say this because, like so I could be I could get drafted into the NFL.
1:37:31
Let's just just play this scenario.
1:37:33
I get drafted into the NFL as a DB.
1:37:37
I'm special teams and fighting for a nickel spot in my first year.
1:37:42
Like physically fighting?
1:37:44
Or
1:37:45
No.
1:37:46
No.
1:37:46
Not physically.
1:37:48
But, you know, just, playing for a spot and, you know, say I was a a higher higher draft
1:37:55
pick.
1:37:55
You know, I'm not offered that fourth, or that fifth round option, and I have an opportunity
1:38:03
to go to a team.
1:38:04
I if I'm that player, mediocre, I could honestly look at the year after me, like, the
1:38:14
free agent list and be like, where do I rank?
1:38:18
Where do I think I rank?
1:38:19
Could I bet on myself?
1:38:20
That's where the betting on yourself, comes in.
1:38:25
And just because you bet on yourself and you had one good year or something like that, you
1:38:32
could go from that, you know, not getting that fifth year option to, you know, consider top
1:38:40
five, top 10 in your position, and then you're fucking getting paid for no good reason.
1:38:45
These dinks.
1:38:46
I'm telling you what, these people are pissing me off.
1:38:50
Well, that's the whole thing is, you know, the contracts are going up.
1:38:53
What else is going up?
1:38:54
Oh, ticket prices could go to everything.
1:38:56
I mean, you know, so it's hard to go anywhere.
1:38:59
So I mean, but I mean, that's that's the order, though.
1:39:03
I
1:39:03
mean Right.
1:39:04
The the players are getting paid too much.
1:39:07
Strike season.
1:39:08
I mean Yeah.
1:39:09
Know.
1:39:10
Baseball's facing that this year that this is probably the last year of baseball because
1:39:14
owners are gonna strike.
1:39:15
The players are gonna strike.
1:39:16
So
1:39:17
Well, that they don't do the extra stuff.
1:39:19
I mean, at least NFL's like, we get billions of dollars, but at least we help out little Timmy
1:39:24
at the Yeah.
1:39:25
Make a wish.
1:39:27
You
1:39:27
know?
1:39:28
Does that too, but, I mean
1:39:30
Probably, Ralph Bay wouldn't you ever I have never once seen one commercial about one Make A
1:39:36
Wish for the MLB.
1:39:38
Well, yeah.
1:39:38
You're I mean, you're you're probably right about that.
1:39:40
I probably would have to look deep inside
1:39:44
The archive.
1:39:46
Yeah.
1:39:47
You look inside them archives.
1:39:49
I mean, definitely definitely the NFL promotes that they are doing stuff like that.
1:39:57
WNBA.
1:39:58
Oh my god.
1:39:59
Them themorphos.
1:40:01
They they are in for it.
1:40:03
Oh, man.
1:40:04
And here I am trying to, like I'm glad you brought that up.
1:40:08
Yo.
1:40:09
That business proposal I was talking to you about early in the show, it was '86.
1:40:14
It was it was it was Uh-oh.
1:40:16
Would have been better off with the semi pro flag football.
1:40:19
Oh, I I I still wanna hear about it afterwards.
1:40:22
I still wanna
1:40:23
go for these days?
1:40:24
Couple of grand?
1:40:25
All's all's I'm saying is let's get into that flag football, women's flag football.
1:40:32
Oh, now we're talking.
1:40:33
And let's
1:40:35
Now we're talking.
1:40:36
Let's get it on TV.
1:40:37
I already I'm already getting investment on a profess semi pro semi pro professional women's
1:40:46
league volleyball.
1:40:48
You already know what's up.
1:40:49
I'm not dumb.
1:40:50
Ain't no dummy.
1:40:52
Hold on here.
1:40:53
Well and and that's the thing too is, you know that a trash?
1:40:58
What are
1:40:58
we looking?
1:40:58
Yeah.
1:40:59
It looks like it.
1:41:00
Yeah.
1:41:05
Yeah.
1:41:05
It's just it's man, it's really hard to make really, really hard to make uncompetitive,
1:41:13
unexciting sports sellable.
1:41:17
I don't know.
1:41:18
Have you watched the cornhole game?
1:41:20
No.
1:41:20
I'm just kidding.
1:41:21
It's exciting, Well, I tell you the Olympics, I mean, we talked about before being in
1:41:27
Minnesota.
1:41:29
It seems like curling is the big thing here besides hockey.
1:41:32
It's like every Olympics, you always hear curling and stuff like that.
1:41:36
I watch it every time I see it and it's not exciting.
1:41:39
It's just like, okay.
1:41:40
How are they gonna hit this stone with that stone to get the point?
1:41:43
And you know?
1:41:45
So
1:41:46
Alright.
1:41:47
Coach, I know you got a a meeting at ten.
1:41:50
Final thoughts before we clock off for today.
1:41:54
Yeah.
1:41:55
I mean, all in all, you know, just recapping the show, it was, you know, it was a good win
1:42:02
for my Wyoming cavalry.
1:42:04
We're two and o on the season, one and o in the, regular season, and, you know, looking to
1:42:11
become top 15, maybe top 10 ranked in the nation.
1:42:15
Unfortunate events towards the end of the game, but, you know, it is what it is.
1:42:22
I'm excited about Kyler Murray.
1:42:25
It's about damn time that we get somewhat electric quarterback.
1:42:30
Last time we did this for the Vikings, I would say it was Donovan McNabb, and that was an
1:42:36
extreme disappointment to say the least.
1:42:40
I'm excited about this.
1:42:42
Over over well, McNabb.
1:42:45
McNabb.
1:42:46
I mean, we have better
1:42:47
Over Barb and Cunningham?
1:42:49
I mean, ew.
1:42:51
Was trash.
1:42:54
I feel like he was trash when he got here.
1:42:55
First game, he threw, what, six?
1:42:59
That seems like they ignore there.
1:43:00
I I feel good about the offensive lineman signing.
1:43:04
You know, message for players, younger players, be versatile.
1:43:10
Don't be, you know, strong headed, heavy headed, and be like, no.
1:43:15
I'm only playing this one position.
1:43:17
If a coach puts you somewhere other than what you're comfortable playing, shut up and play it
1:43:22
because now, hey.
1:43:24
Blake Brandel probably would have been kicked off the damn team, but just because he's
1:43:28
versatile, we are able to move him over to center.
1:43:30
Smart man, Blake.
1:43:32
Yeah.
1:43:32
He's gonna be a contributor, and who knows what that turns into for him and his career.
1:43:37
He'll make a million.
1:43:38
Go to
1:43:38
being a starter on the field, talking about a substantial pay increase, should you continue
1:43:45
to play at a high level.
1:43:46
So Mhmm.
1:43:47
Shout out to Blake Brandel.
1:43:49
I think he's gonna do a bunch hey.
1:43:52
You know what?
1:43:53
He's on the.
1:43:55
So so it is what it is.
1:44:00
I still think he raises the floor of the quarterback room compared to what we had last
1:44:04
year, and you had no money.
1:44:06
You had no money to spend.
1:44:07
So this was, like, the best of the money to spend.
1:44:10
Scenario.
1:44:11
This is the best possible scenario.
1:44:13
Could you imagine if Kyler wasn't available at a at a league vet minimum?
1:44:19
What what we're doing at the quarterback position?
1:44:21
Like, this is We're
1:44:22
we're probably signing to plan.
1:44:25
Geno Smith, baby.
1:44:26
Not how you feel.
1:44:28
Not how you feel.
1:44:30
Yeah.
1:44:30
What did Dino end up getting paid?
1:44:32
Too much.
1:44:33
That's for sure.
1:44:34
Sorry, Dino.
1:44:36
Love you.
1:44:36
We might
1:44:36
we might have went out and got another overpaid quarterback, the kid that signed in Miami,
1:44:46
Willis.
1:44:46
Willis signed to Miami, didn't he?
1:44:48
Yeah.
1:44:49
That's tough.
1:44:51
Yeah.
1:44:53
All all of them saying is at least
1:44:54
How did you not make
1:44:55
it to the man?
1:44:57
You coulda cashed a fat check, been a been a just a scrub.
1:45:02
It's all I'm saying is at least
1:45:03
with Murray, you have that ability for him to extend the plays.
1:45:08
And when and I'm telling you, it is hard for an a cornerback to cover more than three, four
1:45:14
seconds.
1:45:15
I'm telling you right now.
1:45:16
And when
1:45:17
I we think we got that with JJ.
1:45:19
He just he just gotta learn.
1:45:22
So I am only happy Murray because he saves me from little
1:45:29
Yeah.
1:45:30
Straight up.
1:45:30
If anybody if any of you wanted Kirk O'Tanes, you can just 86 me off my friends list or off
1:45:36
your friends list.
1:45:38
They got an asshole so money hungry.
1:45:41
What a prick.
1:45:43
Yeah.
1:45:43
He had to get his, man.
1:45:45
It was his only shot at it.
1:45:47
The money.
1:45:47
In a row.
1:45:48
Enjoy the money.
1:45:50
But, yeah, we don't want you back here.
1:45:54
I I think we're good.
1:45:55
Obviously, a lot more to talk about.
1:45:57
We'll get into a lot more draft coverage, here as we move forward over the next couple of
1:46:02
weeks.
1:46:02
And I got an announcement to make when you're done.
1:46:04
Alright.
1:46:05
Uh-oh.
1:46:05
Go ahead.
1:46:06
So our next game, this Saturday for the Wildman Cavalry, will be taken off on Friday, just to
1:46:14
fly over and travel and get there.
1:46:17
But our game was supposed to be against the North Michigan muskies.
1:46:22
Switched to the Texas herd, and now it's switched to the back to the North Michigan
1:46:31
muskies.
1:46:32
So, I mean, either way, I we're looking to go three and o.
1:46:36
It shouldn't be too hard.
1:46:37
We just gotta play our game and come out there and, you know, not play down to the
1:46:43
competition, and I'm not scared one bit.
1:46:46
Go Cavs.
1:46:47
Three and o, baby.
1:46:49
There you go.
1:46:51
Hey.
1:46:51
Appreciate you talking.
1:46:52
Thanks for tuning in, man.
1:46:54
We appreciate you coming in, talking ball with us.
1:46:57
We do this every Tuesday night, 8PM.
1:47:00
Norse Vios.
1:47:01
Appreciate you being here.
1:47:02
Always playing, man, and it's always fun.
1:47:05
Always fun having you here.
1:47:06
We'll have to get you back on the show here soon.
1:47:09
Tonight was a busy one with me just getting off a tour and coach taking part in the Royal
1:47:15
Rumble last weekend.
1:47:17
So
1:47:22
but, yeah, coach, I know you got a I know you got a meeting with your players here in five
1:47:26
minutes.
1:47:27
So appreciate you guys.
1:47:28
Good to see you all again.
1:47:30
Beast, stick around.
1:47:31
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1:47:36
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