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INTERVIEW: Erykah Badu Speaks On Her Iconic Fashion Sense, Social Media's Affect On Art, New Music + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's the j n V. Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
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  Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave,
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  Speaker 1: so Laura l Rossa is filling in, and we got
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  Speaker 1: a special guest in the building, the Icon Living. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Erica, bad dude, welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: Peace, Peace, peace, How you feeling exquisite?
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  Speaker 2: There you go?
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  Speaker 1: All right? Well, I don't know if you know this.
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  Speaker 1: Last time you were in here, the art wasn't up,
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  Speaker 1: but you see the art now.
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  Speaker 2: And look how you sent it though. You got Queen
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  Speaker 2: Mother blessing the whole room.
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  Speaker 3: I got to pull out the pussy in.
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  Speaker 4: You got bo, you got the incense, I got it.
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  Speaker 4: I've been burning.
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  Speaker 5: I've been burning an incense since you dropped them. I
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  Speaker 5: saw y'all two together at the awards.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, congratulations on that too. Congratulations on receiving the cf
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  Speaker 2: D A Fashion Icon Award.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very very much.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea what that means, but I feel
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  Speaker 2: like you deserve all the awards.
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  Speaker 3: Congrat they say, I found out it's the Oscar of
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  Speaker 3: fashion really, so that that award means a lot to
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  Speaker 3: people in the fashion industry, and thank you, sir, and
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  Speaker 3: to us as artists as well, you know, creators who
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  Speaker 3: are I love it as well, trying to you know,
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  Speaker 3: evolve our our culture, you know, so that means a
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  Speaker 3: lot to be recognized.
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  Speaker 2: It's always felt like you had an effortless style. Do
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  Speaker 2: you really put a lot of thought.
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  Speaker 3: In how you how you d sometimes? Okay, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I do, and sometimes it's just grace it happens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: You're not supposed to blow out instance, the old googles
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  Speaker 3: don't like that?
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  Speaker 6: Why you told me, I'm not But I'm not kidding, Okay,
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  Speaker 6: I'm just trying to say it ain't on me.
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  Speaker 2: We got so much of this sit the house. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: when you first put it out a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: After that, now you said that during your speech that
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  Speaker 1: this was an award that you wanted for a long time?
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  Speaker 1: Was true that long after?
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  Speaker 3: Since? You know, I didn't even know that you could
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  Speaker 3: get an award for that, but just wanted to be
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  Speaker 3: recognized for the canvas that I create. When I go out, man,
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  Speaker 3: it's really important to me. It's my therapy. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I can't leave without half of mind. Like I said
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  Speaker 3: in the speech, shit together. You know, it's just something
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  Speaker 3: that came with my head. You know, it's a nagging thing.
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  Speaker 3: You know, make sure you shit it together. And sometimes
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  Speaker 3: when I don't try, it really hard and sometimes gracefully
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  Speaker 3: comes together. I guess maybe because of my intention, the
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  Speaker 3: fashion gods gave me the keys out here in these streets.
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  Speaker 2: We get it from your mom and grandma.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely cold right. They used to call her Twiggy
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  Speaker 3: in high school after the model because she was just
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  Speaker 3: so original and she had bleached her hair white. She's
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  Speaker 3: a really skinny kid with big eyes. It's really creative.
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  Speaker 1: And how difficult is it for you to have so
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  Speaker 1: much of a fashion sense?
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  Speaker 6: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Because you travel a lot. How much luggage do you
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  Speaker 1: have to carry? How much do you go shopping? I
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  Speaker 1: know that's what I'm saying. You carry a lot of
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  Speaker 1: freaking lug Like her luggage has her own bus.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll explain that when you're your own stylist and
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  Speaker 3: your own makeup person and your own hair person. And
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  Speaker 3: then I do the band's wardrobe, and you know, they're
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  Speaker 3: just instruments and all kinds of things. So I'll carry
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  Speaker 3: a production so I like to see the vision all
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  Speaker 3: the way through and have my hands in it. There's
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  Speaker 3: a word for that, an artist who has their hands
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  Speaker 3: in every aspect of the work of the vision. It's
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  Speaker 3: called the all tool. I think a beut oh I
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  Speaker 3: r our tour and that's just describe it as an
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  Speaker 3: artist or visionary who has an idea and has to
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  Speaker 3: see it all the way through in each department because
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  Speaker 3: they have the ability to do that.
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  Speaker 2: So you write a song and you know what the
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  Speaker 2: video gonna look like, You know what you're gonna well
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  Speaker 2: you okay, Wow.
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  Speaker 5: You talked last night about your best friend who accompanied
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  Speaker 5: you to the awards and afraid of on him introducing
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  Speaker 5: you to a lot of the fashion houses and stuff
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  Speaker 5: like that. Were fashion house houses always like open and
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  Speaker 5: like rushing to support you in all of your creative
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  Speaker 5: ideas or did you have to Was there a fight
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  Speaker 5: because a lot of artists talk about it being a
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  Speaker 5: fight trying to get into the cortur houses.
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  Speaker 1: You know it was.
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  Speaker 3: I was out since nineteen ninety seven, and social media
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  Speaker 3: was really the opening to a lot of these relationships
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  Speaker 3: because they could now directly get to the artists where
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  Speaker 3: they probably didn't know how to get to the ones
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  Speaker 3: that they wanted to feature before. But the first person
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  Speaker 3: that reached out to me was Tom Ford. Tom Ford
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  Speaker 3: wanted me to do a perfume at White Patuli, which
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  Speaker 3: was his natural innocense flavors. This was two thousand and two. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so that's tom Ford and tom Ford's from Texas as well,
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  Speaker 3: so we kind of formed a bond. And I guess
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  Speaker 3: as I evolved my style other houses or artists, because
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  Speaker 3: it's really the creative directors the person he is the
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  Speaker 3: he is the house at the time because his vision
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  Speaker 3: is trusted most. And they started, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 3: paying attention to you know, the guardliness or the freeiness
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  Speaker 3: or the hobo sheekness. It's been called all kinds of things,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, they caught notice. And next was Roberto Tichi
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  Speaker 3: and he was the creative director of Jivnshi at the time,
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  Speaker 3: and that was my first full campaign and he let
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  Speaker 3: me co style with him and put things together. And
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  Speaker 3: I think it just after that I was kind of,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I was on the radar for certain things.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely the page to go to if you want to
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  Speaker 3: know what's next, and how do.
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  Speaker 5: You pick, Like last night you were in Tom Brown
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  Speaker 5: or the other day at the CFDA Wards you were
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  Speaker 5: in Tom Brown, how do you pick which designers in
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  Speaker 5: which houses now you want to work with?
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  Speaker 4: Because I'm sure they're all banging. You can do anything
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  Speaker 4: you want now, right.
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  Speaker 3: And I picked Tom specifically for this event because he's
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  Speaker 3: the chairman of the event. Yes, and he's he's also
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  Speaker 3: a very very good friend of mine and his art
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  Speaker 3: is just so amazing. So I thought, since I was
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  Speaker 3: being honored, I would also honor him by wearing one
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  Speaker 3: of his pieces. And I chose one from Runway, uh
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  Speaker 3: and a really beautiful architectural shape, really pretty. And I said,
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  Speaker 3: but I need something huh, futuristic ancient to go on top,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And I saw this AI. I think he
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  Speaker 3: saw this post this morning. I'm not sure, but I
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  Speaker 3: saw this AI rendering of this this head piece, and
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  Speaker 3: I reached out to the person and I told him
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  Speaker 3: this is really beautiful. I would love to challenge a
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  Speaker 3: designer to bring this to life in the in the
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  Speaker 3: five D world War D world. And he said okay.
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  Speaker 3: So I called a friend, Chris Habana, who does a
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  Speaker 3: lot of crafting and amazing jeweler, and he said yes,
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  Speaker 3: and he had three days, and he pulled the team
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  Speaker 3: together and they did some.
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  Speaker 1: What do you call it, some renderings?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they did some put it in a machine. It's plastic.
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  Speaker 3: You can make a gun with it, you can make
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  Speaker 3: a house, right, Yeah. They did some three D printing
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  Speaker 3: to try to really is it's amazing, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember where you were at when you got
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  Speaker 2: the call that you was getting the c FDA.
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  Speaker 3: I was at home, h and my agency, uh Forward
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  Speaker 3: forwarded me the email. I was like, wow, okay, it's good. Good,
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  Speaker 3: that's good stuff. That's good.
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  Speaker 2: Did you immediately know what you was going with? Did
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  Speaker 2: you see that vision?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely not? Okay, absolutely not. This thing was three weeks away. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know I was gonna wear it tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: You've done capsules before with people and collaborated.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever thought about just you trying to talk
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  Speaker 2: low and soft just because everybody you don't even talk
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, calm down every time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I was an ass.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I will never blow the incident again either.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes. You ever thought about doing your whole line,
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  Speaker 1: like a full clothing line for America? I do from
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  Speaker 1: rude to tutor and everything in.
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  Speaker 3: Between, and I have thought about that. I had a
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  Speaker 3: chance to practice that with Marnie and French Francesco Riso.
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  Speaker 3: Uh we did a collapse Marnie and last year a
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  Speaker 3: lot of things happened for me in fashion last year,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there was the last two years. It was
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  Speaker 3: my first fashion week. So that's when I really started
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  Speaker 3: to catch the bug. And I met Francesco because we
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  Speaker 3: went to the met ball together and we drew up
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  Speaker 3: some things and talked about some things and had a
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  Speaker 3: appsol line that came out and these leaves are part
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  Speaker 3: of it.
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  Speaker 5: The collab was everywhere. It was, Yes, everybody was in
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  Speaker 5: y'all collab in Marnie. That was your first fashion week? Yes,
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  Speaker 5: like you attending or like what do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: It was my first fashion week in twenty twenty three?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah wow, And that was so during that time that
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  Speaker 5: collab is now two? Is that collab the collab when
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  Speaker 5: you got to work with your daughter Puma two with
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  Speaker 5: Marnie or was it a difference?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, yes, And how did that feel because it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 5: we see Lebron and Ronnie on the court and they're
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  Speaker 5: like you know, but like this is your lane and
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  Speaker 5: now your daughter's coming into it and y'all are working
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  Speaker 5: with a fashion house.
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  Speaker 4: How did you feel just doing that with her?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? It was surreal. It was a dream, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because Puma is such an individual person that I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know what direction she wanted to go in, and I
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  Speaker 3: still don't. You know, she's she's twenty, so she's kind
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  Speaker 3: of finding her way. And sometimes when your kid is
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  Speaker 3: an artist, they don't want to follow your shadow. They
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  Speaker 3: want to find their own thing, you know. But she
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  Speaker 3: was cool with supporting me and standing beside me, and
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  Speaker 3: she's like, Mom, I don't care, this is for you,
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  Speaker 3: you know, So.
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  Speaker 1: Dress if they tried, like what happened with the line?
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  Speaker 3: Because you what they got to do with what we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Because even I feel like I feel like, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like everything you do is spirit art, even down in
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  Speaker 2: your fashion. So I don't know if you don't embody
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  Speaker 2: that spirit, I don't even know how that would even.
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  Speaker 3: Man, you are such a wise person, you really are.
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  Speaker 3: Ever since I met you. You tap into things so well, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I approach everything the same way. It's a feeling I feel.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So would you do your own line? Do
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  Speaker 1: you want to do your line. I know that's not
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  Speaker 1: something that's in your cost right now.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, would you have the time for it? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I would make time.
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  Speaker 4: This is my last fashion question.
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  Speaker 2: Fashion awards.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't know.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to get to I've been trying to
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  Speaker 3: get this award since I was because I'm loaded, ask
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  Speaker 3: me everything. I've been playing with paper dolls, trying to
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  Speaker 3: make sure that people, you know, really appreciate my my work.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of like putting putting your picture on the
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  Speaker 3: refrigerator so your mom sees it, and you never respect
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  Speaker 3: your mom to say nothing bad. So it's such a
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  Speaker 3: shock every time. It's always new when people are disrespectful
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  Speaker 3: and mean.
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  Speaker 4: Think disrespectful of me to you. Yeah, I'll them up,
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  Speaker 4: like you're going against to do that to you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they try it, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm annointed and detected and I don't have a heart,
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  Speaker 3: so they can't. You know, they can't penetrate me.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have a heart.
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  Speaker 3: I'm choking.
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  Speaker 4: And paper up.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have to take notes about this.
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  Speaker 5: I saw online you were doing some interviews just after
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  Speaker 5: their wards, and you were in some Jordan's, Yes were there,
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  Speaker 5: that was a Jordan Virgil clab No, okay, it was
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  Speaker 5: That's not true then, because they were saying it was
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  Speaker 5: like an unreleased It was.
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  Speaker 3: An unreleased one, but it wasn't Virgil. It was shoe
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  Speaker 3: sergeing got you?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: People just give you like how do?
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  Speaker 2: How do?
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  Speaker 5: People line was going crazy over the collap They were
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  Speaker 5: trying to figure out where, like how you even got
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  Speaker 5: the shoes?
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  Speaker 3: Showed up at my door on the Yo.
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  Speaker 6: Yo.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, yo, all my fashion
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  Speaker 4: block pages out.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, shoot, y'all zoomed in on it.
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  Speaker 5: I zom did so because I'm like, I don't even
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  Speaker 5: see any of Virgil's like you know he has the
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  Speaker 5: thing he does and you know it's him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't see none of that.
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  Speaker 1: To get busy, yeah yeah, yes, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe I'm not gonna say nothing about that nothing, but.
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  Speaker 2: Damn yeah, how'd you feel about that?
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  Speaker 3: It was my first time, so I'm trying to I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to throw throw off the audience so they don't
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  Speaker 3: know what I.
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  Speaker 4: Told you because I was sitting here like I want
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  Speaker 4: to hear your answer.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know will tell y'all another time when the
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  Speaker 3: news come out.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, I feel about that. Now, You've always been
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  Speaker 2: an artist that's sensitive about your ship. You told that
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  Speaker 2: a long time ago. But you said in your speech
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  Speaker 2: at c fd A, that is scary being an artist
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  Speaker 2: in the social media era. So how is social media
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  Speaker 2: made that critique worse?
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  Speaker 3: I guess yeah, it is scary. I mean, I've heard
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  Speaker 3: my own kids be afraid to express and share their art.
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  Speaker 3: Eric Abadu, kid is scared to share their art and
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  Speaker 3: express themselves because the audience is so vicious at this point,
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  Speaker 3: and they have such a huge appetite for blood, and
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  Speaker 3: they want people to be disciplined and humbled and punished
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  Speaker 3: for their success. Almost it's what it seems like. So
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  Speaker 3: that's why, you know, a lot of kids are afraid to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, share their work or share their art or
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  Speaker 3: feel like they have to come at it with some
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  Speaker 3: kind of armor on, and that armor doesn't allow for
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  Speaker 3: the art to truly express itself. In my opinion, so
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  Speaker 3: it's a scary time for art. We didn't have to
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  Speaker 3: do that. We didn't have to deal with that. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you heard the few little comments and things, but those
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  Speaker 3: weren't strong enough to penetrate a strong person. But these
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  Speaker 3: things are now because when people come in your numbers.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about group thinks so many times.
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  Speaker 3: It's what It was a prediction that I made with
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  Speaker 3: Windows Seat in twenty ten group think would overshadow art,
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  Speaker 3: and it is right now, yes, because people can. People can.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's very smart to get at the the
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  Speaker 3: channels and even the whole instead of getting at the
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  Speaker 3: bloggers and the people. We see artists penalizing the channels themselves,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's the smart thing because that's what
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  Speaker 3: has to change. If that doesn't, if there's no place
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  Speaker 3: to do that, then then it won't be done.
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  Speaker 1: Get back to that, you think it'll ever get back
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  Speaker 1: to where people feel comfortable releasing music or not hesitant
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  Speaker 1: because of the amount of people that go at them.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we see it in everything comedy, we see
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  Speaker 1: it in movies, we see it in this regular conversation.
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  Speaker 1: People are afraid to be quote unquote canceled.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like if it's eating if it's
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  Speaker 3: feeding season, you know, you're a little bit more cautious
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  Speaker 3: to go outside. You know, squirrels are not going to
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  Speaker 3: try to run free and not be cautious when it's
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  Speaker 3: lion season.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know it's.
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  Speaker 3: It might get back to it if we really want
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  Speaker 3: ah kindness. Kindness seems kind of boring to people, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, It's kind of boring. There's no
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  Speaker 3: people don't feel that there could be some kind of
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  Speaker 3: dope of being released from being kind being right?
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  Speaker 1: Does that make you hesitant to release music? No?
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  Speaker 2: Not me, But you haven't dropped in fourteen years?
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  Speaker 3: Fourteen years, fifteen, I can make you put your phone down, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, okay, ten years.
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  Speaker 2: But the album?
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  Speaker 3: But album since well, well, one reason I don't have
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  Speaker 3: to it's because I am a performance artist and I've
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  Speaker 3: been doing that constantly for the last thirty years, eight
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  Speaker 3: years out, eight months out of the year, all year round.
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  Speaker 3: I do it. So that's what I love to do.
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  Speaker 3: Only put out albums when I have something to say.
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  Speaker 3: I have something, yeah, something pressing to say or push out.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm I am. I have more than enough space
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  Speaker 3: to get my art on stage, so it's not totally
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  Speaker 3: necessary to put an album for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just love to see the like the
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  Speaker 2: Division of God has shown you, because like if you
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: look at your catalog right, your catalog literally has predicted
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: where we are now. So I can only imagine the
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: stuff you're creating right now. How far into the future
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: you're seeing things.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: M hmm, me too. I mean I'm writing right now.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I got a project coming.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Out soon, a full album.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: But I can't tell y'all.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: How soon.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I just got I just got goosebump, So how soon
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: it will be soon?
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Soon, like by the end of the year, soon or
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: next year. Soon, we'll see.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an important one. It's a collapse album.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're another artist.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: You're not going to say, who are you?
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: You can Andre three thousand again.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: He's a guy that's Do I think he'll rap again?
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: I say, is this gonna be the colab album that
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: gets on the rap again? And also you can answer
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: do you think he'll rap again?
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: And and why would you say is this gonna be
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: the collab album? Because you're assuming that it's him. Yeah,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I'm asking you can assume whatever you want. But I
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, I don't know. I don't think
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: he has to. He's speaking with that instrument. It's the
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: same thing. It miss the same kind of thing. Yeah,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: the way he make us feel when with bombs over
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: bag Dad is the way he makes people who are
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: ready for that feel. It's the same thing. It's his energy.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: It's I feel it. That's the rap, you know. To me,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: he rapping to me, that's true.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I want to go see it. I want to go
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: see the New Blue New Blue Son tour. When he
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: performed in Brooklyn, and I felt very fulfilled, very fulfilled.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I felt fulfilled because he was. He was fulfilled. He
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: was happy, he was doing what he wanted to do
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: at his own pace. There was no urgency, you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: to be right. He was happy with making mistakes. It
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: was cool. I really enjoyed it, and I love himprov
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: so I was happy he had a chance to get
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: up there and express himself because I don't know, if
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: you understand it. We have to do this or we
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: may be sick or something. Artists who use their art
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: as therapy or use their art as a coping mechanism,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: you know, helps me with all of the things that
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: are off balanced.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I have to do that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: So seeing him being able to do that, because I'm
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: assuming that he may feel the same way I do,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: it's just such a blessing to have that platform to
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I can see what y'all are twin flames too,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: because he was on stage and it was one part
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: of the show where he just started going making all
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: kinds of noises and the crowd was answering them back,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: and then he goes, I wasn't saying ship.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Last night. He I keep saying last night. I don't
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: know what data is coming up.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: But he presented you with your c FD a fashion
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: that kind of word on the way that like, I
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: know you, you reached out to him to have him
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: present to you, and you guys had a conversation.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: He was saying, I did, well. It was a kind
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: of tricky thing. I actually reached out to Tiana Taylor
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: because I think she's next wh Okay, I think she's
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I think she has a really good grasp art in
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: fashion functional art. I'm really impressed and inspirer. But I
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: asked her and ah, I'd asked Andre before but he
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: didn't respond. And then they came back and told me
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: after I asked, you know that andres would said yes.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: And I had to figure out how to maneuver that,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: you know, because that meant a lot to her. Yes,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I want to tell her I love you so very
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: much and I'm so happy that we're friends. And I
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: hope that that did not bring a wedge between us
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: in any way. But that's Andre two thousand, girl.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: And your best friend. You got to talk to people.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: You got to talk to people to get to him. No, oh,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: you just said my sister.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Well sometimes, yeah, it depends you know how busy he is.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I'll follow proper protocol. Ya.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: How do you handle the challenge of balancing like your
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: personal expression with the expectations that your fans in the
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: music industry might might place on Eric Abadu? How do
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you how do you handle the challenge of balancing like
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: the personal expression with the expectation the fans may have,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: like they might expect you to show up a certain
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: way all the time.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: That's fun, you know, it's part of it's part of
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: the art, because this, this career is an art. It's
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: what it is. There's an art of longevity. There's an
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: art of conceptualizing, there's an art of building a persona.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: There's an art of knowing when to divvy the art out,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: knowing when to pull it back. It's all an art,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: So what the people feel and think are very very important.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: It's a major part of it because they decide who
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: and what you are. I like to surprise them. I
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: like to give them what they did not know they
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: they may have wanted, because I hope that I'm doing
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: whatever I'm doing presently as well as I was doing
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: what I was doing in the past as an artist.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: When did you realize that you didn't say that you
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: didn't give a fuck. Can you say You're going to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: do what you want to do. You're going to put
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: out what you want to put out. You don't necessarily
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: have to fit in the box of every artist. You
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: don't have to follow the platform and say this is it,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: taken leave it?
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: When did you get to that point in the contract
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: negotiation in nineteen ninety seven? It was never a felim
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean I didn't have to do it,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: you know, and they didn't have to.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I figured it was a partnership and I was doing
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: the record label of Favor. I knew who I was,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I knew what I was getting ready to do. I
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: had a mission, and nothing was going to infiltrate it,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: not even my own fear and doubts, and I'm still
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: on mission. Best work is still in me and I
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: have not accomplished whatever that is yet, because there's still
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: this feeling of abuse and greenness and gross.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: When did you realize it was on divine assignment in
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: your life?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Little?
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I always thought I was very very special, very annoyingted
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: or a narcissistic one because I just believed it. I
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: always have. Nobody can tell me that that it's not true.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: That I have a mission and I am. I am annointed,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: and I am special and I am blessed. And that's
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: why I choose service over anything, because I know things.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Some things come easier to me than they will to
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: someone else. So I already know.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: When you look at other artists without saying names, do
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you see it in them like they're selling themselves out?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I know they're different. Do you see that? And a
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: lot of artists like they're selling themselves out for a
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: check or selling themselves out for a label where you
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: see they can go something different? Do you see that
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a lot?
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: And be I don't know, I don't ever look at that, Yeah,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: selling themselves out for I don't know. People do what
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: they have to do. You know, and it's not a race.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: We don't all have to be at the same understanding
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: at the same time. You know, everybody, our artists don't
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: have to be responsible for your kids, you know. Yeah,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: so I don't know. I mean people doing what they
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: have to do. I remember needing money too and doing things.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: It's strange things with a piece of change, you know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: like performing and venues I didn't want to perform in
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: or h Yeah, so I don't know. I can't judge that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: But what do you think about that?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes they got to realize their assignment. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I think we all go through that sometimes realize while
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: we're there, you know. And what made me think about
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: it is, you know, when j Cole jumped into that beef,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: he came back and said this is not for me,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and you know, people ished on them and said this,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that and the other. But that was his assignment and
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: you can't be mad as assignment, and even me as
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: a fan, was kind of he was on a mission.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Realize.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I understand that sometimes I believe that, you know, being
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: a mission or your assignment is not always to do
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: something heavenly and great and good. Sometimes it's to create
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: some chaos so that you may shake things up. Fertilizer
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: is put into a pot to disturb the roots. It's
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: poisoning them so they have to move. So yeah, I
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: can't really judge it. You don't know what somebody's mission
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: is because it all counts, it's all.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Matter, and you don't know what journey God got them
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: more you don't. You don't get Michael Max without Malcolm Little.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: That's right. You don't get eric about without I'm trying
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: to think it was.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Street name.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: You don't get eric about without butchery knife Betty, that's
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: my new monarcha.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Everybody, when when you said that you was, you knew
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: you was of service. Did you know what that was
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: going to look like? Did you know it was gonna
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: be music?
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Actually I did not, But I don't consider that the service.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I consider music my privilege because I'm using the audience
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: as therapists, a thousand million therapists to get my idea
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: of my thing out. Services are the things that I
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: don't charge money for that I do because I feel
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: like it's the right thing, not because of a promise
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: of heaven or or accolades or trophy, just but because
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: of integrity and the connection between two people. And when
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: people hear this, they don't believe that that nobody believes that.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: It's so strange to me that people don't believe that
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: that kind of human can't exist, you know, they don't
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: believe it. Maybe it's strange. Is it strange that I
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: don't need anything back or I don't ask for anything
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: when I pray? Is it strange?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, no, because I think, to me,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: prayer is for gratitude. I find myself when I'm praying,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying thank you. And I guess coming from
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: where I come from, a dirt road and most going
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: to South Carolina, I'm always felt good. I feel like
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: whatever God has given me in that moment is what
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I'm supposed to have, and I'm grateful for that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: It seems like it's becoming more of a general consensus
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: that we don't need anything. We're realizing that that we
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: don't need anything, and the biggest gift we probably need
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: is peace of mind, you know. And I'm rewarded with
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: peace of mind when I do service for others for free,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: for nothing, just because right there too, peace of mind.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: That's what we just what the green juice for what
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: the your goo force, what the music is for, with
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: the singing is for, the money is for bitchess is full. Yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: one point to kids and husband and house and cars
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: for we all looking for peace of mind and that's
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: how I get mine the most service.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Do people take advantage of that though? Sometimes?
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely, but that's none of my business.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, were there points, like bag Lady, I was saying
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: earlier in the room that I remember when bag Lady
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: for me started hitting differently and I was listening to
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: it and it was like, Ooh, I get it now.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: When I was younger, I was just listening to it
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: because it was played in my house and I loved
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: the song. But I literally remember that feeling for you,
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: were there points in your life where you had to
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: be like, ooh, I get it, like I felt it
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: bag Lady, or like was this song of service.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: For someone else?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: You mean feeling my own song?
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: You're feeling your just even before Bad Lady was created. Yeah,
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: maybe there was a time in your life that you know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: created or inspired the song. When did you get out
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: of the bag Lady phase? And what did that feel
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: like for you?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: She has a lot of baggage, so she's trying to
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: see if did you have too or was it just
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: a song.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: What I'm saying is what I realized is number one.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: With my mom, I always I never understood why she
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: couldn't be happy about certain things. And then I got
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: older and I'm like, man, you're carrying so much stuff.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: I tell all the time, like just let that go,
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: like we can handle that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Men have told Lauren that she need doing this with
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: a couple of men did that to Lauren. They said,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to spend the block what you need to heal, You
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: need to work on yourself.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Who said this first? Of all?
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: The two people that said it to me, they ain't
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: even They probably can't even spell hells.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: So so what y'all think about the two guys, I
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: think they're right on the journey. She's on the journey.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: And the two men that you respect, one of them
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I respect, told you that you need to work on yourself. Yes,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: as an insult or as an encouragement and love.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: The second one I think it was insult and deflecting.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: The first one.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the first one I think it was like he
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: really cares, Like that's why when he said it, I
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: was like, Okay, I hear it. I'm in a point
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: in my life now where I can do the accountability.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Does he need to work on himself as well?
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Yes he does?
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Does he know?
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Yes he does?
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, cool?
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Second one really know, like it's you.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Really know he got to work on himself.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: I don't even want nothing to do with that, like
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: it's bad.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: But I asked that because I just feel like, as
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: I got older and realized how much you do care,
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: especially emotionally, sometimes it weighs into other things and it
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: closes doors, or it cuts off relationships, or you just
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: miss out on good things. And every time I listen
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: to that song, I'm like, man, how does she know
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: that people was going to need this?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I was writing what I felt,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: you know, in my heart, and you know I did
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: hear it later And I'm talking to myself, my future self.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Where were you at at that time of your life
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: when you were talking to your future self? Like, what
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: was the transition as you were.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Trying to make I think I was transitioning out of
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: a relationship where I was not happy about it. Yeah,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: and realizing that I had to leave some things behind,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: some parts of me behind. So it felt like a
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: funeral of sorts. Yeah, like because you have a party,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: you have to die every time you evolve, you got
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: to leave it back there. You know, you want it
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: because it's familiar, and a lot of times we like
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: to resort to the familiar, even if it's toxic. Yeah,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: So you have to leave it. That corpse, that beautiful
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: old you has to be left, and you have to
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: walk forward and I look back. That's the hardest part,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: not leaving the people, but it's leaving your own ways
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: and you.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about of discipline.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: It is when did you get to the point where
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: you knew you you had? When did you get to
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the point where you loved every version of yourself? Though?
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: H I don't know when that happened, but I definitely do.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I look forward to waking up and getting to do things,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: getting to experience, getting to test out my kindness.
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I prayed for kindness. I was like, I wanna practice kindness,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: you know, my last big whatever meltdown we were going
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: through twenty twenty or somewhere, I just wanted to praxe kindness.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Two or three days later, I went to the airport.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: My ticket was wrong, my bags got put somewhere else.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: They were left on the tarmac of all bags mine.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: The lady was talking to me crazy, asked me, h y,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: this is first class. You can't put your you know
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: that whole routine. It was everything that was hard. M
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: So I was assuming that the creator was saying, we'll
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: here practice on this mm if you wanna practice kindness,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: p here, I'll give you some things to practice some
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: because you just don't get to beat that.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: How did that work out?
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Worked out great?
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Some parts from the last time. Mama wanted to pull out.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: A gun at the airport, but I just settled for
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: having my fist balled up like Arthur. And yeah, I
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: got through it because I kind of it took me
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: a little bit to realize what was happening, Like wait
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: a minute, I see what I see what this is.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I see what that said, you know, And.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see you getting outside of your vibe,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: your zone.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: What vibe do you think I got? I'm your tell
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: me about it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I don't. But every time I see you, you just
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: seen mellow chill and at peace. I don't.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: This is the place to be mellow chilling, at peace.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: There's no reason in here to be any other kind
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: of way. If anybody else comes on y'all show without this,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: call me just shine.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: A light on that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: You're also playing Lucille in the Netflix movie The Piano Lesson.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Were you a fan of the play?
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I went to as HBC Grammling State University. I was
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: a theater major. I was a despian, So we did
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: a lot of August Wilson material, Lorraine's Hands, Lorraine Hansbury,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: h a myriad of black artists, play rights, but we
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: did do that play as well. And Lucille's part is
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: very tiny, you know. But the most important role I
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: played was composing music for the for the movie. Malcolm Washington,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: who is Denzel's Sun, is directing, and he called me
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: and asked if I would uh put together some music
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: for it. And I call my very good friend Daniel Jones.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Got restless, so safe journey. Daniel Jones. He came and
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: put some beautiful pieces together nineteen thirties and I wrote
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: lyrics over them. Wow, and they're they're used in the
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: movie The Piano Lessons on Netflix.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: So before we get this collaboration album, I think November eighth,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: right eight, So before we get this collaboration album. We're
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: getting original music on this soundtrack.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, nineteen twenties, thirties, so there's an acquired taste
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: period piece, period piece.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Does acting? Does acting feel like restricted? Does it feel
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: like it's restricting you in any way?
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: No, it just feels like work. Okay, yeah, my touring
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: and music doesn't feel like work. But acting does I
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: feel like work?
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I can't even see you on the say it feel
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: like you know, you don't seem like the hurry up
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: and wait, like you want to be doing something like Hey, yeah.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: I do, I al, I got something. I'm gonna bring
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: an easel and some pain. I'm you know, I really
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: miss my kids being little. That really took up a
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: lot of mind playtime. I just want to play all
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: the time, make something, play, do something, and I have
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: to carry everything with me to make that happen. Like
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: if I'm working on a movie set, because there are
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: long hours and I should be reading over my lines,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: but I always wait and do it the last minute. Yeah,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: but no, I don't really dig that too much being
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: an actor in a film. I like theater though. I
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: think that's a wonderful place. I like the immediate connection
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: between you.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: And the artists, and you only get like one take
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: to do it when you're on that stage.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it, that's what's beautiful about it.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one stop, he's producing the piano lesson right. Yes,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: was he involved late, he was.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Around, but he stepped back and let his children work.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What do you learn from your children now now
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: that they're grown?
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, so many things. Like I told you guys, they
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: are definitely improvements on my design. Puma is at a
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: place now at twenty that I was thirty before I
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: was at her level of understanding and emotional intelligence and
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: compassion for people. Integrity, yeah, discipline, Yeah, I was still
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: a child kind of at twenty. I learned a lot
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: from them. And they aren't very judgmental, you know, so
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: they just kind of go along with whatever I do.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: We never had rules. Who was just do what I say?
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: And they did that and watched me, you know, never
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: hid anything from them. So yeah, they're they're turning. They're
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: having their turn at showing me and teaching me patience
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: and severity. Mama, you gotta say what you feel, feel
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: what you say. Tell that that's that. That's the electronic
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: A little good mars. Yeah, they will, They'll tell me
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: it can only be so kind now that.
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: And our first favorite saying is a couplistic saying that
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: severity without mercy is cruelty. Mercy without severity, it's weakness.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: So we try to walk that line. You know, kindness
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: isn't only being, you know, appearing nice. Kindness is all
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: also telling somebody to beat it, count yourself.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Because you still could you write a old to hip
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: hop now in twenty twenty four, like, based off this
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: era of music, would hip hop be the love of
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: your life? Right now?
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: It still is always you only have one love. You're
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: lucky just to have just one mm hm.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Uh one love, one love? Yeah, Wodini? Yeah?
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: And who did who did it? Over?
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: No?
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, boys, I'm saying, I'm saying, you know, y'all
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: looking to be like why you're asking that? That's that's
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: simple arithmetic. It was.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how the relationship evolved or change because relationship and
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: hip hop?
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: It has not, because hip hop is still here. It's recorded.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: You can never go away. Nobody can take it away.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: It has been recorded in time. Hip hop will be televised.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: It is down, it's I can access it at any
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: point in time, So it is there. Yeah, so I
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: feel the same way.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: How do you feel about people having a conversation all
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: about it being like the third most popular genre behind
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: with Latin music, I think in country music, Like, how
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: do you feel about that?
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Because I think, yes, hip hop at one point, go ahead.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: No, it's not third is first. I'm talking about all
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: over the planet everywhere I go, Gossip, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina, Africa, Mexico,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: everywhere I go, we are praying to different gods, different
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: names of God. But everybody is not in their heads
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: in agreeance to the one kicking the snare. It's hip
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: hop is like, it's the religion, it's how it's what
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: brings us all together, the whole world. Yeah, nah, hip
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: hop it's the biggest They know that. Oh they're talking about.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Not cult yourself.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, but like culture wise, they wouldn't even be
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: able to understand it, to rink it.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, what made J Dillers so brilliant were gonna
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: get you out of here?
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: His approach uh to music was authenticity. He was authentic.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: That's what made him different. Uh. He had a metronome
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: and he was true to it. He did never used
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: the quantization button. He never quantized. It was always his
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: inner metronome. So the snares were live. Usually when when
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: we produce, we are using a kick in the snare
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: button and we push a button called quantize and it
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: puts it on the grid on the and the four.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: So what's the same all the time.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, which gives us a certain swing depending on what
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: what the feel you want. But Deyler's field was his
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: field because it was always live. So he would do
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: maybe a couple of quantized things, you know, he had
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: a little tricks here and there with the snares, but
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: for the most part he was very simple and unquantized.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: So for four minutes he would actually play the beat
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: so the snares wouldn't necessarily be on them. Yeah, which
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: is amazing because it's feeling not not necessarily feeling all
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Sometimes he would just play the play the kick and
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: the snare alive, or play the kick and snare live
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: and do the high hats live, gotcha or the shakers
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: because those those are laying back, so his beat's laid back.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to explain it, but he had
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: a laid back. He was on his own beat rhythm,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: and he brought he brought all of us to that place. Yeah,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: it was a certain hump that he had can't be explained.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: But that's what made him so special, and his choices
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: and samples and his collection of music. Uh. He was
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: a historian. M hm. He was also very You have
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: to be mathematical. But I told stories before how when
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: I opened this refrigerator, all the coke cans will be
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: lined up like so symmetrically. I wouldn't want to get one,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: you know. But I don't drink coke nowhere. But you know,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: I have to make that clear. As you said, people crazy.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I've seen the behive. The behive chased you a little
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: bit for a little bit.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Where's the behid now?
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: On Twitter?
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: I ain't seen to be yuh a long time. And
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I love bees. They don't know I like it.
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: I love bees and my totalm Yeah lately though, mm hmm,
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: they're gonna tell.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Men see them tomorrow, see him tomorrow.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I like the tweet when you said, Jay, you're gonna
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: let this woman needs be something. Let this woman need be.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know why people think take things so serious.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: It's just my sense of humor.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: I love j When you saw the cover though, knowing
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: that there is the inspiration, like, does do those inspiration moments?
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: Are you feeling like, oh my god, they saw what
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: I was trying to do, they love it, they still
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: doing it? Or do you feel like, oh, that was mine? Like,
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: don't bite.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: I have to be very careful with this because my children,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: you're not watching me, and that generation is watching. And
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: as much as we love our art, it doesn't belong
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: to us once it goes out in the world. However, though,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: you can't You can't manage what people are going to
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: do with the art. You can't manage whether they're going
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: to duplicate it or do another interpretation of it, or
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: just enjoy it or use it as an inspiration. You
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: can't manage that. But you don't have to remain silent
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, you can. If it makes you feel
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: the way, you should say something about it. Yeah.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: But outside of that, there are a lot of artists
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: that get there. You can tell their style, their approach
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: everything from you and you do see that. Does that
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: bother you or do you look at it like I
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: put my art out there and it is what it is?
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Or do you mind it all that they don't show
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: you respect and love and say what it came from here?
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: As I'm mature, more I have less of a need
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: two h own own something. And the more I let
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: go of it, the more I am acknowledged. Isn't that something? Yeah?
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: The more I let go of the need of that,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: then you get a call and say, hey, we want
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: to give.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: You an award.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: That's how the universe works in my world. So I
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: saw that, and I was very proud of that award
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: and proud of that moment because I had let go
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: of some things that were no longer evolving me thinking
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: you know, and then there it comes. They give it
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: to you because I became it, because they don't give
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: you what you want, to give.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: You what you are.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a ball. You heard that one.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: My last question. I feel like everything you do is
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: spirit all. Like I said earlier, is it even possible
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: for you to do any type of art without divine
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: energy being involved?
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. Even if I'm not aware of it,
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: it's always involved. Yeah, something there's something I know what
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: it is, but there's something we floating on that's giving
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: us life choices of some sort. Yeah, you know, we're born,
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: we're told you know, once we're born, you know that
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: our religion was here already. What we're supposed to believe
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: in the tribe, the ways, the hunting ways, the what
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: we worship, how we worship, how we learn, how we cook,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: how we dress. There's a tribe and you learn that.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Hopefully you go outside of that once you are of
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: age to explore other things, because you want to see
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: if that is true. Yeah, then you explore even further.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: You want to go outside of that and see how
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: you feel being entangled with another person, another human, and
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: then after.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: That you go like entangled, entangled and entanglement.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Entanglement is when two cells meet and become something. Yeah,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: so you become entangled with another human in the next
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: phase of your life. Then hopefully you learn that and
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: learn some boundaries. And then now you're an individual human
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: which creative in spirit, and then you have to learn
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: how to walk in that humanness, in that spiritualness. I
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: don't know what I was saying or how we got
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: to this, but because I asked.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: You, is it possible for you to make art without
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: that divine in?
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: No, not for me.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Because I believe that. I believe that. Yeah, do you
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: think it's possible to do anything without.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Not anything meaningful?
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Not anything meaning So you so you think or you
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: feel that there's an opposite of the BT.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I feel like there's just I think
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: that you know, you have your divine and then you
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: just have your human right. So we're all spiritual beings
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: living in human existence. So you can do all types
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: of things in the human existence right, and you may
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: think they feel good in the moment, and they may just,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: but it's not lasting, it's not fulfilling. You can you
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: know when you're doing something divine, you know when God is.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, and you don't have to do much, it's
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: just your body feeling.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: You just show up and do what you do, and
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: everything around you just move.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: That's how music and performing is to me. It's the
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: only thing in my life that is like that. Yeah,
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: when I get up there, I'm not wrong, I'm not
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: too skinny, I'm not too ugly, I'm not too anything.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Everything is right.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: You got some shows coming up.
• 53:11
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• 53:30
  Speaker 3: I know I've been waiting even we don't realize how
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: big the fan base is, the reach is, but it's amazing.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Because it's always so out.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: I bought you guys from Funko. You do, y'all gotta
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: cut it open if you want to see it.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, this is the figure that you've created.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: This is the this is the Buncle Buncle pop is
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: just collected.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Look at the email. Look at this afford this to
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: my wife. I like this. She sent me back this morning.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: It's so cute.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Now we got one.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: So they're pop culture Vinyl Toy Collective and and they
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: specialized in artists are icons.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they specialized and not doing it.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: You need to put a shelf up there.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: You'll get it before okay, okay, And she's cute man.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: So this first one they did is the call Tyrone video,
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: so that we I actually reached out to Funko to
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: do this because I thought it was important for my
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: kids to have these. They love Funkos, and I surprised
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: them one day and said I have a funk go
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: so like your own funk you Yeah, yeah, you.
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  Speaker 1: That's dope. Thank you again for joining us. We always
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. I appreciate you too.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: No, we do, definitely do.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: We love you, value you, appreciate you. I literally just
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: told somebody last week, I said, I don't play about er.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Didn't have a conversation either or envy there you go
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: at all and I don't play about you.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: And if something happened, you called me. I got you.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna call you. Yeah, because may be acting up
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: in here. Honestly, that's not true.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: I don't believe it.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: I might need to leave.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Nothing like that. Don't do that.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: It'd be hard.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Don't do that.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: It'd be tough.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: He'd be tough, just like.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Some incentse he'll calm down.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Now we got the puts in here. Maybe he'll relax.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Everybody. Everybody gonna relax, thank you. Yeah, within a thirty
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: miles ready, everybody, they're gonna be relaxed. I appreciate y'all
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: always porting me.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Eric Abdu sister, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, thanks,
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  Speaker 1: good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning.
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