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Gravy Train Derailment | HBR Talk 340 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 2: But yes, everyone was wondering why we have Neil Gaiman's
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  Speaker 1: Are This first one is a lot of drama, but
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  Speaker 1: everybody's talking about it and I feel like it needs
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  Speaker 1: So Blake Lively all right, the woman pictured on the left.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, guys know who Blake
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  Speaker 1: Lively is, but she is an actress. I don't really
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  Speaker 1: know her from much. He's also Ryan Reynolds's wife. Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Reynolds is the actor who you probably know from the
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  Speaker 1: mint Mobile commercials. And he also played Deadpool I guess
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  Speaker 1: a couple of times, and he was in waiting. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I know him from Van Wilder. Anyway, Blake Lively
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  Speaker 1: has accused Justin Baldoni, the gentleman on the right in
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  Speaker 1: the pink Blazer, of sexual What I did.
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  Speaker 2: I did a video response to his TED talk.
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  Speaker 1: Did you do a TED talk about toxic masculinity?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's along those lines. Yeah, yeah, January twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was.
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  Speaker 1: I remember him.
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  Speaker 2: I still remember. I always remember these fuck jukes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I actually remember that too, because I scared his video.
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  Speaker 1: They it was going around like I'm one of those,
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  Speaker 1: you know, viral video generating websites like Upworthy. Do you
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  Speaker 1: guys remember Upworthy and and that stuff? Al Jazeera? You know, so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was. He was on one of the I think
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  Speaker 1: it was an excerpt or another version of it, and
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  Speaker 1: so so yes, Justin Bendo, Ben sorry, Justin Baldoni.
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  Speaker 2: So Blake likely he's a toll, handsome adonis of a man.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't understand why other men don't attract women's attention.
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  Speaker 1: Like he does. Yeah, yeah, so they're both kind of
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  Speaker 1: B movie actors that are not super well known. I
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  Speaker 1: did not know who this dude was until you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: that video. But that's I mean, unless that was acting.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think he's a true believer. He's a
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  Speaker 1: true feminist ally or tries to be, hence the pink
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  Speaker 1: blazer with the net shirt. But anyway, Blake Lively has
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  Speaker 1: accused Justin Baldoni of sexual harassment during the filming of
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  Speaker 1: a movie called It Ends with Us, which is a
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  Speaker 1: romantic film based on a novel. Specifically, citing behavior during
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  Speaker 1: a slow dance scene, Lively alleged that Baldoni dragged his
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  Speaker 1: lips down her neck and made inappropriate comments about her scent,
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  Speaker 1: which she claims was not part of the script or
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  Speaker 1: character interaction. In response, Baldoni's leader, maybe it was an
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  Speaker 1: aggressive scent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, point of personal privilege. You can't just turn up
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  Speaker 2: with an.
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  Speaker 1: Aggressive remember they're acting. Okay, they're playing a scene, so anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Lively alleged that Baldoni dragged his lips down her neck
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  Speaker 1: and made inappropriate comments about her scent, which she claims
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  Speaker 1: was not part of the script or character interaction. In response,
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  Speaker 1: Baldoni's legal team released unedited footage of the scene in question,
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  Speaker 1: arguing it shows professionalism and mutual respect, with both actors
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  Speaker 1: engaging in lighthearted conversation about their appearances, including Baldoni's beard
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  Speaker 1: and Lively's spray tan. The footage includes Baldoni saying quote
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  Speaker 1: it smells good end, quote to which Lively responds humorously,
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  Speaker 1: suggesting the comment the comment was about her makeup rather
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  Speaker 1: than anything inappropriate. Lively's team, however, insists that the video
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  Speaker 1: corroborates her allegations, highlighting that the interactions were unscripted and
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  Speaker 1: without an intimacy coordinator, suggesting non consensual conduct. Ryan Reynolds
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  Speaker 1: has been significantly involved in this controversy, not only as
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  Speaker 1: Lively's husband, but also in legal actions. He was present
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  Speaker 1: at a meeting convened to address Lively's concerns on set,
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  Speaker 1: where he allegedly berated Baldoni for quote fat shaming Lively
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  Speaker 1: his wife after Baldoni inquired about her weight for a
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  Speaker 1: lifting scene. Baldoni's lawsuit against Lively and Reynolds includes claims
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  Speaker 1: of defamation, civil extortion, and interference with contractual relations, asserting
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  Speaker 1: that Reynolds and Lively tried to seize control of the
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  Speaker 1: film and damage Baldoni's reputation. That's what it looks like
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  Speaker 1: by the way Reynolds and Lively have countered by requesting
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  Speaker 1: a gag order on Baldoni's legal team, always a good sign,
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  Speaker 1: claiming they've engaged in a retaliatory retaliatory media campaign. The
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  Speaker 1: public and legal discourse around this issue is polarized, with
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  Speaker 1: each side presenting evidence to support their narrative, including text messages, emails,
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  Speaker 1: and the aforementioned footage. And I have like a new
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  Speaker 1: bit of footage that came out from Baldoni's lawyer. I
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  Speaker 1: want to show here, So let me like try to
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  Speaker 1: enlarge this. This is on Megan Kelly's YouTube channel, so
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  Speaker 1: fair use Megan Kelly if you don't, If you don't mind,
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  Speaker 1: here we go.
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  Speaker 3: We have here exclusively justin Baldoni speaking to what he
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  Speaker 3: called his dream team, those who had been helping him
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  Speaker 3: edit the films and get it to finality. Lamenting the
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  Speaker 3: fact that he was put in the basement on the
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  Speaker 3: premiere of his own movie, he says, per Blake's demands,
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  Speaker 3: say a listener that voice test in part.
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  Speaker 4: Think about this on what you know could have been
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  Speaker 4: one of the most beautiful nights of my life career wise.
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  Speaker 4: I literally was sent to the basement with my whole
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  Speaker 4: all my friends and family for over an hour because
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed to be seen. She didn't want me
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  Speaker 4: anywhere near her or the rest of the cast, so
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  Speaker 4: they ushered me off the carpet and they sent us
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  Speaker 4: down to the basement. We were down there together, my
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  Speaker 4: friends and family, the people that love me the most,
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  Speaker 4: and we start laughing because of the ridiculousness of this
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  Speaker 4: whole thing. And I realized, like on a night that
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  Speaker 4: was supposed to be so materialistically joyful, I was in
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  Speaker 4: the basement with the people that I loved the most,
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  Speaker 4: and we were all joyful and laughing because none of
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  Speaker 4: that shit matters, None of it. That's not why we're
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  Speaker 4: in the business. That's not why the three of us
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  Speaker 4: are in this business, is to attend to premiere like
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  Speaker 4: that and be celebrated. We're in this business because we
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  Speaker 4: were artists and we believe in what we do and
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  Speaker 4: because we want to create art that touches people's hearts
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  Speaker 4: and souls and can move people. And that's what we did.
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  Speaker 4: That's what you both did. And I believe that will
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  Speaker 4: follow each of us and the truth will prevail and
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  Speaker 4: that light and love will win.
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  Speaker 1: Ugh. Anyway, So what it seems is that what seems
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  Speaker 1: to be going on here is Oh and Hannah's here
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Hi Hannah.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, guys, can you hear me?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we can hear you.
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  Speaker 5: Just fine when they get the sound check out.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's fine, Thank you for uh for doing that.
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  Speaker 1: So what what it seems to happen? Yes, all these
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  Speaker 1: people are gross. I get it, Like like I'm not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily taking a side of these people, like based on
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  Speaker 1: their personality. But there this These people had a professional relationship.
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  Speaker 1: There's a video clip that shows it. But because there
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  Speaker 1: was an opportunity for Blake Lively to exploit this, she
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  Speaker 1: wanted to take full credit for the film. She claimed
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  Speaker 1: to have written the scene. Ryan Reynolds even Who's Who's
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  Speaker 1: Blake Clive's husband told everybody that she did all the
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  Speaker 1: work and that she's like this genius and everything. So
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  Speaker 1: you have this clash of egos and this guy who
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  Speaker 1: was just trying to like, you know, do as good
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  Speaker 1: a job I guess as he can saw this as
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  Speaker 1: a good opportunity, was kind of thrown under the bus,
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  Speaker 1: and she made allegations against him, and his lawyer is
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  Speaker 1: fighting back, and it just sounds like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: you know, like shady shit is going on. And it
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  Speaker 1: turned out this this is something we learned today. She
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  Speaker 1: didn't even write the scene that she's taken credit for.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds wrote it and he just said that she
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  Speaker 1: did it. So this is all kinds of male feminist
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  Speaker 1: caping for women type stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So, but none of this sounds like stuff the access
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  Speaker 2: don't normally have to do.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay.
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  Speaker 2: I try to avoid the cliche of starting an argument
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  Speaker 2: with as a dot dot dot, you know, as a woman,
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  Speaker 2: as a or indigenous personal collexcept. But this is a
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  Speaker 2: rare occasion where where I think I can make it
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  Speaker 2: work from an informative perspective, ahem, as a theater kid. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: dot dot dot And yes I have a single honors
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  Speaker 2: bachelor's degree in drama for those who didn't know. And
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  Speaker 2: I can confirm that the way theatrical academia works is
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  Speaker 2: exactly as pointless and pretentious and lovey dovey as you
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  Speaker 2: stereotypically could possibly satirize it as being. It's all about
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  Speaker 2: breaking the boundaries of ordinary interactions. It's about thinking outside
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  Speaker 2: your your instinctive inhibitions. Much like a musician can improvise
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  Speaker 2: a song, an actor needs to be able to improvise
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  Speaker 2: a whole other human being, to improvise the behavior of
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  Speaker 2: a character who is wholly unlike yourself. And so they
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  Speaker 2: do these gay exercises where you act like a tree,
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  Speaker 2: act like an animal, act like the second order abstraction
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  Speaker 2: of the demon of capitalism, and so on. I remember
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  Speaker 2: one lesson in my first semester, they said to us, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so next week you're going to come You're gonna come
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  Speaker 2: into class basically cross dressed. All right, if you're a man,
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  Speaker 2: dresses a woman, if you're a woman dresses a man.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a.
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  Speaker 2: Woman who usually dresses in a masculine way, come in
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  Speaker 2: dressed in a feminine way, five versa, and so on.
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  Speaker 2: They already had all this shit laid out right and
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  Speaker 2: like the first exercise when we came in was to
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  Speaker 2: just mill about amongst each other delicately whispering whatever our
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  Speaker 2: favorite thing was about how one another looks that you
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  Speaker 2: just you just go up and say your or your
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  Speaker 2: dress or whatever, and then you move on.
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  Speaker 6: It was really fucking weird, like, and this was in
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  Speaker 6: two thousand and one, I think early two thousand and one,
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  Speaker 6: and it didn't even seem all that unusual at the time,
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  Speaker 6: because yes, there was already an unavoidable, aver larger feminist
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  Speaker 6: bullshit all across the syllabus in universities all across the
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  Speaker 6: world at the time.
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  Speaker 2: It was very difficult to sidestep it with your elective
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  Speaker 2: modules wheresoever your degree might find itself, even the science
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  Speaker 2: departments that you couldn't quite get away from it, never
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  Speaker 2: mind the fucking drama department. Before you ask, no, I
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  Speaker 2: did not make any effort to cross dress that day.
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  Speaker 2: I just went in wearing eye makeup. I got my
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  Speaker 2: girlfriend to do my eyes up, like how girls do
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  Speaker 2: their eyes up with my scara and whatever. So, of course,
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  Speaker 2: or that anyone said to me was your eyes okay, good, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's thanks. Thanks. I appreciate it. Other than that, I
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  Speaker 2: just want, you know, a gaudy zebra patterned silk shirt
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  Speaker 2: and just normal trousers. I will go as far as
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  Speaker 2: looking like a glam rock star from the eighties. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm not wearing a dress. I'm not wearing a skirt.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. I'm just I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I just no.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure it does feel sort of freeing to
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  Speaker 2: wear a dress or a skirt, but I suppose I
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  Speaker 2: don't feel like feeling quite as free as that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps perhaps it's ironic that men tend to politically prefer
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  Speaker 2: freedom over safety while women prefer safety over freedom. Yet
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: we dress in a way that woul seem to invert
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  Speaker 2: such preferences. But it makes sense when you think about it,
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  Speaker 2: because there's a point of inversion. Women want to feel
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  Speaker 2: safe so they can dress like they're free. Men want
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  Speaker 2: to Men want to feel free so they can dress
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  Speaker 2: like they're safe. Does that make in my In my head,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: that sounded like a quotable quote, But I guess you
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  Speaker 2: can find it. But as as I understand it, we are.
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  Speaker 2: We are now at the point where male theater kids
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  Speaker 2: are being me too for doing what they're trained to do,
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  Speaker 2: improvising within a character. Well, I can't say I'm surprised
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: police officers are being imprisoned for doing what they're trained
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  Speaker 2: to do. I'm amazed has taken this long for the
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  Speaker 2: drama club fairies to feel that same fiery wrath of
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Cathley that that that the police have been experiencing for
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  Speaker 2: some time. We were among the first people to summon
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: the aforementioned dark lord, even though we are unimportant midwit
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  Speaker 2: sponges to a man huging every one of us. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: we theater kids had no idea what we were doing,
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  Speaker 2: but we accidentally summoned Cuthulhu. I think that's why I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: Folks like how most male feminists are trying to repent
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  Speaker 2: for the sins of their past sex pesting and did
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  Speaker 2: their ongoing sex pesting. Well, I attended university where I
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  Speaker 2: studied drama, and ever since then I've felt guilty, guilty
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  Speaker 2: that I've wasted everybody's time contributing to an industry that
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: takes kids' brains and shakes them up like a snow globe,
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  Speaker 2: just so that everyone can end up gossiping about a
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  Speaker 2: couple of Hollywood starlets gossiping among themselves about each other,
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  Speaker 2: and now I'm gossiping about that to the next order
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  Speaker 2: of magnitude. But I like to think that at some
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  Speaker 2: point I've fundamentally avoided that subject for this entire rent
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  Speaker 2: and substituted by own.
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  Speaker 1: I want to I.
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  Speaker 7: Want to again.
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  Speaker 1: I want to add some more weirdness to the story.
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  Speaker 1: So like let's just sum it up, Okay. So Blake
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  Speaker 1: Lively and Justin Baldoni are making this movie called It
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  Speaker 1: Ends with Us. It's like a romance based on a
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  Speaker 1: book or something written by a feminist, and there's like
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  Speaker 1: feminism is kind of floating around the whole thing, and
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  Speaker 1: Baldoni is a male feminist, and Blake Lively at least
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  Speaker 1: claims to be a feminist. I assume she is because
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  Speaker 1: it's Hollywood and that's really the only way that's a
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  Speaker 1: bare minimum to get work there, right, And Blake Lively's husband,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds is completely like on her side in all
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  Speaker 1: of this. She claims that Baldoni like oversteps some boundary.
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  Speaker 1: He's also, I guess it's like somewhat younger than her,
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  Speaker 1: and she's like getting close to the wall. So this
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: is like affecting her self esteem, and this is why
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: she claims that he called her fat and all this
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: other stuff. And apparently when this scene happened, maybe that was,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you know, just kind of what is it the you know,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: ad libed or whatever, like he just said that to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: like enhance the romance of the scene.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: Have you seen this?
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Have you watched? Yeah? Yeah, he can. I can find it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys want to see it. But
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: it's there's more to it than what you just said.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: It's it's not just that it was ad libbed. She initiated,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: going off the script. She initiated, So you know about Okay,
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: I yes this. I started seeing this on Twitter on
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: X when it started, and so I went and looked
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: for the information because I'm like, oh, guys, it's gonna
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: be another depth HERD situation. We're going to be talking
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: about this a lot, so I better know what's going on, right.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: So I watched a few commentators and there's this one
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: woman I watched on YouTube who actually is a casting
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: director or whatever she does. She used to do casting.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: She did casting for some big studios and like the
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: millennials and zoomers will recognize, she did some work with
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: a show called The Sweet Life of Zach and Cody,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: which was on when my kid was little. My kids
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: were little and my son used to watch occasionally, so
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: I'm familiar with its existence. So I thought, well, you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: her input's going to be interesting because she works with
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: these kind of people, right, And her take was interesting
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: in that, you know, she's she's explaining, she's explaining what
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Mike explained. That this is pretty normal. Fair's very tame
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: stuff for actors. And it's not normal though, for an
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: actor to come in and take over the movie and
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: come completely rewrite everything and insist things to be done
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: a certain way. That that's a problem actor. That's not
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: like your usual. Usually it's your job to go in
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: there and do what the director says, right, and he's
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: the director, Yeah, right, it's his movie. So for her
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: to be insisting that, oh, I think we should be
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: talking this and that that's that's her demanding changes that
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: are going to make her feel more featured. So once
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: I saw that, and I heard her talking about how
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: normal this is and and saw that she had initiated
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: it and everything, and she even said something about, you
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: know what he's being accused of would be out of
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: character for the guy that she She's met him and
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: it didn't seem like him, right, So this is a
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: publicity stunt, I'm calling it. This is not this is
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: not dep heard, This is not an instant an incident
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: of sexual harassment. This is three actors play acting a
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: controversy because who the fuck heard of this movie before
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: this happened, any of the three of us. Did you
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: know this movie was coming out? Because I didn't. I
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: never heard of it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: It could be. Yeah, I mean that's entirely plausible, But
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I think that, like again, if these allegations are flying around,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good reason to pay attention.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean yeah, Now we've gotten to the
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: point where me tooing somebody is being used as a
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: publicity stunt to promote a movie. Because that's what's happening here.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: I am one hundred percent convinced. I have zero doubt
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: that this is all fake possible.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I did get a super chow. I'm gonna read it
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: really quick from Meredith g She's providing a little bit
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: more info, and then I want to show some of
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the stuff that was really weird about it, regarding Ryan
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Reynolds and his involvement. But Meredith g get this five
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: bucks and says if News forty seven. The lawyer that
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Megan Kelly is interviewing was her attorney when she was
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: fired from NBC, getting her a sixty million dollar payout.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Some context, Lively has been trying for years to build
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a career to equal her husband's Ryan Reynolds, and she
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: has never been able to do it. The film is
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: an adaptation of a book that is part of a series,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and Baldoni owns the movie rights through his production company.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: And apparently when this was going on, she was like,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: there was something about an intimacy coordinator. So you know,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: they have on sets for television movies for.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: Effect scenes and makeout scenes when they it's to help
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: coordinate between what the actors are doing and what the
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: camera sees so that it actually looks good on film
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: and everybody's comfortable and nobody has a problem.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess for this one she was complained
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: that there wasn't one, or he was I'm not really sure,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: but it was.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: But there wasn't. It wasn't supposed to be the scene
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: that it that it ended up being, because like she
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: went through and started like she made that change of
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: talking and everything. The speech that she complained about, she
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: apologized for her her makeup and her it was body makeup.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: And that's why he said it smells good, you know,
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: like just to offhand comment, well, it smells good. You know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: at least it's not a it's not a problem. It
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: smells good. Yeah, And that wasn't That's not anywhere near
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: the same as him engaging in an overtly sexual behavior
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: and then going hmm, it smells good, very different from
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: what she's describing, like, and it with that, you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: they're being voice and everything. Like, I seriously, I don't
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: believe any of this is Israel or spur of the
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: moment or I don't. I don't know that, you know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: maybe maybe it got out of hand, you know, people
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: taking sides and everything, but I genuinely believe that together.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are defamation suits and stuff now, so
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: they're going to Yeah, I think that that's what I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: was going to say. There are there are there are
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: going to court over this, uh and another thing. Okay,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: so so there's a in the on it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Maybe it's just her and Reynolds trying to boost her career.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised because she.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Felt sexually harassed. It wasn't something that she, of course
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: not thought he was creepy. It's something that she did
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: because it put the movie and her name in the news.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I agree. No, I think that's I think that's right.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I think she used she created a controversy to boost
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: her career. It was Baldoni's project. He was producing and
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: he was involved with making it, and she kind of
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: hijacked some stuff and there was a scene. I think
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: it's that scene that Ryan Reynolds because he's trying to
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: boost his wife's career too. And I'll show you some
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: more evidence for that. In a second, Ryan Reynolds was
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: crediting her for writing a scene that it later turned
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: out he wrote and he credited. But anyway, but there's
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: another thing. So Ryan Reynolds had a runaway hit earlier
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: last year called Deadpool and Wolverine. You may have heard
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: of it, and there is some he made some references
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to Blake Lively. So in that movie, so this is yeah,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I know I'm citing BuzzFeed is crazy, but they have
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the info. So there's a scene in the movie where
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: they meet an alternate universe Deadpool named nice Pool, and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: he says this. He says, do you did you see
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: lady Ladypool? She is gorgeous. She just had a baby too,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and you can't even tell by the way, Blake Lively
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: also had a child. They had a baby recently, and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: she would breastfeed while she was making this movie. So
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: he's complimenting her looks because Ladypool, who is here, is
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: played by Blake Lively, even though you don't see her face.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: So he put her in his movie and then he
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: gassed her up in the movie, and then he talked
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: about how well she's, you know, carries herself after the pregnancy.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: And then she says, when Deadpool calls him out for
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the comment, nice Pool replies, that's okay. I identify as
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a feminist. At another point, Deadpool says, where in God's
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: name is the intimacy intimacy coordinator? So there's this like weird,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: like passive aggressive stuff going on too in this other movie.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: And I thought that was a weird scene too. I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: was like, what is the conversation when I saw that,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: because like Blake Lively was accusing Justin Baldoni of making
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: inappropriate and sexual comments about her postpart of body and Weight,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and the lawsuit also accuses Justin of improvising sexual moments
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: without an intimacy coordinator, which, of course turned out she
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: was the one doing that.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: Right so, and given the fact that the claim she
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: made about the comment regarding the scent of the makeup
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: was completely detached, like completely nothing like what actually happened.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: I have my doubts about the weight thing too, because
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, it was a lifting scene. He had to
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: lift her, you know, it's not it's not unfair to
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: ask someone before you lift them up, how much weight
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: am I picking up? If you're trying to lift a
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: person and you think somebody weighs less than they actually do,
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: you can injure both of you, yourself and the person
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: you're lifting very badly, and it doesn't believe it or not.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: For like a head injury or a back injury. You
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: don't have to fall twenty or thirty feet to get
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: hurt very badly. You can actually fall just to three
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: or four feet and get hurt very bad if you
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: hit something when you're falling, if you land wrong, if
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: you know, there's a few different things that can happen
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: that can cause very serious back injuries, very serious neck injuries,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: and very dangerous or lasting head injuries. So if you're
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: lifting someone, you do need to be careful. And in fact,
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: it is important to know if somebody maybe had weighs
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: more than they look. And a lot of women after
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: they have had a baby will start an exercise routine
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: and they will turn what was fat that they put
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: on during the pregnancy into muscle doing that exercise routine,
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: and so you're gonna look thinner, but your weight doesn't
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: go down because muscle is denser than fat and it
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: weighs more than fat, so you can be slimmer looking
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: and actually way as much or more as you did
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: when you were pregnant. I did that. It took me
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: extra time to take the weight off because I turned
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: the fat into muscle, and like we're talking months and
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: months just to lose an extra thirty pounds because before
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: I started taking off the more solid fat that wasn't cellulite,
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: I burned through all that cellulite and built up as
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: many pounds in muscle as I took off in cellulite.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: And if somebody had tried to lift me, and maybe
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: they lifted me when I was pregnant, they would have
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: expected me to be lighter than I had been, because
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: they will looked at me and seen a thinner person,
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: and I would wait just as much. So there's a
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: lot to take in here with regard to this case.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: But it's pretty obvious that Blake Lively is not She's
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: not acting on any kind of real or compelling cause
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: that she needs to do this because.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Of no so uh, but we'll see where the lawsuit goes.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Hopefully this is like not a big old Amber Her
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Johnny Depp thing, but it's worth, like I said, looking
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: at because again, you know, we're seeing how how these
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: these movements can be exploited. And I know this is
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: like celebrity you know, kind of gross stuff, but I
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: mean it's still it's it's culturally relevant, kind of like
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the Neil game thing. So but.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: If it gets dropped, if that lawsuit gets dropped and
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: then he doesn't countersuite her, I'm calling it publicity stunt.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: And what that tells us is that this kind of
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: allegation is no longer really taken seriously when a woman
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: makes it, which is a good thing. It shouldn't be.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like the boy who cried wolf and
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: then got paid so by the wolf. But yeah, so uh, anyway,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it and then and then we're gonna
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: move on to the next one. At least Sleepy Ausie
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: gave us five bucks and says, once, I thought you
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: should only simp for your partner, but Ryan Reynolds proves
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: that you shouldn't simp period.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that you shouldn't sin period.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: No. And Ryan Renls, though, is All, was also feeling
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: insecure because he said that he was afraid that she
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: would fall in love with Jason with Baldoni because he
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: fell in love with her on this on the set
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: of something else, So it's like his anyway, that's that's
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a separate thing. That's just something he said.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: They say you should simp for real queens. Yeah, the
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: truth is real queens don't like simps.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: There you go, that's true. All right, Well, anyway, let
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: us you guys think about this one in the comments.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: We're gonna move on to the next story. All right. So,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: newly inaugurated US President Donald Trump has had quite a
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: busy first week. Unlike Trump's first term, where he had
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: very limited executive orders signed within his first week New
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Trump Trump two point zero dark Trump has already signed
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: twenty eight executive orders since he was inaugurated on January twentieth.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Trump even signed many of the orders during the inauguration
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: festivities at the Capitol One Arena. He was doing them
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: while they were celebrating hundreds.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, there's different categories of orders that
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: he was signing.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Biden famously signed more eos in his first day than
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: anyone else before him. But yeah, it seems like Trump
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: has done the same thing.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, I'm sure that a lot of them are
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: just undoing the last Yeah. You know, like.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: You have to think of the future where every new
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: president undoes all the executive orders of the previous president,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: but signing a bunch of new executives.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's the constitution is to allow these
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: things to happen.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that if if you sign, if
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you basically spend your entire term dismantling the bureaucracy, then
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: there will be less of that. But let me finish
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the write up. So anyway, this was by Andrew Trump
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: has taken several steps to secure the US southern border,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: including deploying US troops to assist border patrol. Trump has
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: also designated drug cartels and other criminal organizations as terrorist
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: organizations in order to fight the influx of illegal and
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: deadly drugs into American towns. Trump has also taken an
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: ax to DEI completely, completely gutting DEI offices from government agencies,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: specifically federal government agencies. Trump's executive order highlighted the toxicity
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: and divisiveness of DEI teachings. Trump also signed an executive
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: order to take out the take the US out of
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the World Health Organization after the failure of the organization
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to acknowledge the realities of China's role with the hur
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Another EO that is facing an expected legal challenge is
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: an EO to end birthright citizenship. Previously, most people born
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: in the US immediately receive US citizenship. This EO is
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: erected at fighting illegal immigrants or others coming to the
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: US and then giving birth, thus giving their children US citizenship. Controversially,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Trump also pardoned most of the January sixth rioters that
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: were charged during the twenty twenty Capital riots. Many people
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: charged in the January sixth riots were convicted of nonviolent
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: offenses like trespassing, maybe property damage, but several were convicted
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: of violent offenses, about two dozen. Trump's pardon extended to
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: both groups of people because they were basically in jail
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: without trial for about five years. And one of those
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: people is Enrique A. Tario, who is now free and
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: he's been doing the rounds and apparently this was something
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I was gonna mention too. Enrique Tarrio and other j
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: sixers that were being held said that they were approached
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: by like the Justice Department, and the Justice Department was
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: trying to offer them a deal if they would essentially
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: say Trump was responsible for, you know, the attack on
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the Capitol and essentially to to tarnish his reputation, and
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: they resoundingly said no, they weren't going to do that.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: The Proud Boys is back in action, and I believe
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: that was one other thing too about this. I wanted
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: to point out, Oh yeah, so there is he's the
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: goal He's gonna be releasing. This is crazy. He wants
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the the files on the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, Senior,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King. And they have
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: like forty five days to get all of that out.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, apparently it's being done, but
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that, you know, when
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: we're to learn more about that. And also the January
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: sixth Committee, which was basically the people who were supposed
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: to be investigating the attack on the capital, the insurrection,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: they're also going to be investigated because you know, they
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: were operating under false pretenses. They did a lot of
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: really fucked up shit, and we're going to look into
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: what it is that they did. And the reason why
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I wanted to pick this story was not just because
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I want to highlight all this stuff that he's been doing.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: That's good. Oh by the way, the Gulf of Mexico
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: is officially now the Gulf of America, but it's official.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: But the reason why I were to point this out
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: is because, again I said this before, like I was
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: really like I was on my way out the door
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: to go to the Capitol on January sixth, and if
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I had gone, I could have been in jail until
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: like yesterday or whatever whatever. So I almost was a
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: part of this whole mess. And I mean Lindsey begging
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: me not to go, and me finally like saying, okay,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I won't go might have saved like both of us,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: because if I'd ended up in jail for five years,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know how she would have managed without me,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: and I don't know how I would have managed. So
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: just saying this is why this particular story, the Jay
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: sixth thing, is something that I have to talk about,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: because I was ready to go, like you know, so oh,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and there was something else too I wanted to say
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: that I want to mention right now, Hold on a second.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I learned that the Press Secretary is opening up. So
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: like the Press Secretary sees the media, right, they put
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: out you know, they do Q and a's and all that,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: but this this time around, Trump wants the press, the
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Press Secretary to have spaces for new what they call
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: new media. Do you know what new media is?
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: It's us.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: It's anybody who wants to. They can like fill out
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: a form and make a request and they can go
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: up to Washington, DC and talk directly to the Press Secretary.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: So Lindsay and I were like, because I'm only like
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: four hours away a little bit less, so I could
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: definitely go up there if I and I mean, I
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: don't know how it works, like if I have to
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: get vetted or whatever, but it's us. It's such a
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: great opportunity because I could literally go up there and
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: talk about men's issues. And I'm close too, so just
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: saying this is like, this is huge as it were.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: But I want to get your guys' thoughts on this,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: So go ahead, I give you the floor.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Well, this is this is a men's issue, and I
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: know that there were men and women involved both, but
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: this is where a men's issue affects women, you know
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: sometimes basically it affects men all the time, it affects
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: women sometimes. And that is the normalization of the removal
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: of due process if people think that there is a
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: reason for that removal, that they approve.
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  Speaker 1: And for.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: Over a century in the United States, the reason that
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: has been the most often used to take away somebody's
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: due process rights with impunity for the state and anyone
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: involved in removing the due process rights has been guynocentrism.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: You know, oh, it's going to benefit a woman to
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: take away this man's due process rights, or where he's
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: accused of harming a woman, therefore he doesn't deserve due
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: process rights. We don't have to find out if it's
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: the truth, because there's a woman's tears involved, right, So
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: this time it's not that reason. But because it has
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: been so normalized for so long, people have been primed
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: to accept this idea. Well, we don't have to find
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: out if these people were actually guilty, right, because we
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: have a nation's tears, we have the liberal tears of
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: these people had the audacity to step up in protest
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: and say they disapproved of the decision that we're claiming
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: the American people made. We can't have the American people
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: contradicting us on this, y'all. You're making this look bad.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: We're gonna put you in the in the slammer for
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: a while. And if it had not been normalized during
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: the last century that that a woman's tears are an
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: acceptable reason right to take away somebody's due process rights,
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: to say they can't submit of exculpatory evidence when they're
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: on trial, to presume them guilty unless they prove themselves innocent,
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: to deny their right to a speedy trial, and all
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: that like it. As long as that's normalized, you will
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: see this kind of behavior getting worse and worse in
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: the court system under more and more ridiculous circumstances where
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: it's there's obviously not even a reason to make the
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: mistake of thinking that someone's due process rights are not sacred,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: and and that's that's what we saw with this case.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: So yeah, you know, this is this is good. This
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: is a step toward people recognizing that you can't take
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: reasons that you like and say, well, we're gonna we're
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: going to compromise this civil right that is based on
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: a human right because we we don't like what might
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: happen if the other if the the person that we're
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: accusing proves their case. That's that's basically what's going on here.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to show you guys a clip of
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: the the Press Secretary saying this, and then I'll get
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Mike's thoughts. But this is the thing I wanted to
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: add on as.
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: Well strongly in the first Amendment. So it's why our
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: team will work diligently to restore the press passes of
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: the four hundred and forty journalists whose passes were wrongly
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: revoked by the previous administration. We're also opening up this
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: briefing room to new media voices who produce news related
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: content and whose outlet is not already represented.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: By one of the seats in this room.
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: We welcome independent journalists, podcasters, social media influencers, and content
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: creators to apply for credentials to cover this White House
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: and you can apply now on our new website, Whitehouse
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: dot gov slash new media.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: So there you go. They're opening up to new media.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Have a criticism, go to the thing, call them names, whatever,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: challenge challenge them, challenge the administration. This is like the
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: whatever you think about Trump, set that aside for a second.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: This is unprecedented. He's letting anybody who wants, who is
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: a journalist, a podcast or a content creator, they can
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: all go to these press briefings and ask questions. So
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: when that's already been like yeah, so I think that's
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I think that's amazing. And he's restoring the you know,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: the he's restoring the the ability for media that I
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: guess has been excluded before by the previous administration. Most
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: likely it's you know, like I don't know, right leaning stuff,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: but this is, uh, this is big. So anyway, I
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: just wanted to add that on to the list. It's
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: not an EO, but it is a very welcome thing
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: because the truth is is that legacy media is dying,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: so like we should let other people, you know, get
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: So anyway, Well, something else is that the truth about
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: media in regard to men's issues is that there's there's
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: not going to be any legacy or establishment media that's
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: going to give us a fair shake there. They may
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: have their angle of our issues, you know, and the
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: left is going to have their angle, and the right's
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: going to have their angle, but when it comes down
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: to actually advocating for change to restore equal treatment under
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: the law for men, you're not going to get that
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: from the establishment media. You're not going to get that
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: from the legacy media. So without having that ability for
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: some alternative media to get in, you're pretty much unable
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: to interact media wise with the White House. So it's
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: kind of neat to see them. It's it is unprecedented.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: It's also really kind of neat to see this change
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: because it does create an opportunity for media outlets that
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: will cover men's issues from a neutral perspective, an unbiased perspective,
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: to actually get in and ask questions.
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: All right, Mike, do you have any thoughts I do, okay,
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: regarding the idea of birthright citizenship, which seems to be
• 49:15
  Speaker 8: one of the hubs of political controversy surrounding this story.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Is really not all that revolutionary concept. Basically, every country
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: in the world falls into one or two camps. Either
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: you get citizenship if your parents have citizenship regardless of
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: where you were born, or you get citizenship just because
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: you were born in that country regardless of your parents' nationality.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: For the sake of brevity, we can label these as
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: blood and soil retrospectively. Retrospectively, you must understand, and if
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: you if you look at it on a map, you
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: notice the distinction is mostly drawn down the Atlantic Ocean.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: In the eastern hemisphere, including Europe, it's mostly about blood,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: it's about your parents, whereas in the Western hemisphere, in
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: the Americas, it's almost exclusively about the geographic location of
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: your birth. And you can see why. It's the divide
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: between the New World and the Old world. If we're
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: in the New World and it's about parents, we can
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: only trace it back so far before we're back in.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: The old world.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: So if we don't allow citizenship by soil in that instance,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: that there will only be any citizenship at all. The
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: reason this works in Europe, and indeed in African Nasia
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: is because we've been there for thousands of years for
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the notion of citizenship even existed on a political level.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: We were already able to trace our family tree back
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: to before records began, so it was never an issue.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: So it's a question of how old can the new
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: world get? But before it gets to the status of
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: an old world, how old does this grandfather have to
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: be before we can get it in on a grandfather clause?
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie. I think what two hundred
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: and fifty years is reasonable. I think if you've had
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: a country established for two hundred and fifty years thereabouts,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: you've got enough of a backstory, You've got enough of
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: a stronghold to be able to distinguish blood from soil,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: and to have established what we call blood. In Britain,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: we like to distinguish English blood and Scottish blood and
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Welsh blood and whatnot, And obviously we don't mean blood literally. Genetically,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: there's almost no difference between any of us, but culturally
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: there is an important difference. It just takes a long
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: time for culture to out prioritize bland or indeed blood.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: But I think America is finally there. I think it's
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: finally getting there. In this it's Golden age. It's second
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: or perhaps third or fourth Golden Age. And by America,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I mean the Americas. Let us not forget the counter
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: revolution we're experiencing started at the southern tip of South
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: America with your boy Javier Malay to that we raise
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: a glass and say a fura in every language we
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: can muster, and then we say men in any language
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: we can man. There it is.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: It feels good.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I had to wait for my thing to start up.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: That's done. I was hoping you would.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we did it. Okay, So let us
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: know what you guys think about this. What do you
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: guys think about this? The press opening up its doors
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: for basically anybody to try and sign up anybody who
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: makes content online. Let me know, I think it's I
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: think it's great. It's very revolutionary. There's a lot of
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: very revolutionary things going on. I mean, like ending the
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: income tax. He's like at war with the I R
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: S right now. So let's fucking go all right, But anyway,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: let us what you guys think about that one in
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: the comments. Let's move on to the next story. So
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: this one a little bit of backstory before I get
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: into it. Okay, So I heard last night that there
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: was actually like gunfire between border patrol and cartels on
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: the border and that and and people were it sound
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: yeah like I heard that there was actually like fighting
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: going on on the southern border between the cartels south
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: of the border and the border patrol. And I thought,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: holy shit, it's it's getting real. And I made it
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: a story, and I said, I asked, you know, whoever
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: was going to take it to look into it, just
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: to confirm because this was just just just breaking right.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: And Mike Jay took took it and said he couldn't
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: find anything and there's nothing that can confirm it. So
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: we don't know. It could be true, but it may
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: not have been reported yet. It may have gotten not
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: gone to the mainstream. We don't know. So but he
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: did find something else that it put him down a
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: different rabbit hole because there was some shooting that was
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: going on. Essentially, we're gonna look at this, Okay, this
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: is gonna be a little bit crazy. This is on
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: some BX type stuff. You guys know, I used to
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: have BX on my show a couple of times. It's
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: this woman who's sort of a Second Amendment advocate that
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: researches like radical you know, Satanist groups that go into
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: in cell forums and try to push people to suicide
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: or push people to do terror attacks and whatnot. So
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I figured it is relevant because it's about you know, men.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so this is what Mike j uncovered. Okay,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of long, but I think it's interesting.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: So Mike Makejay, he says. The Inauguration day murder of
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: a US Border patrol officer in Vermont has been linked
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: to two other violent incidents, which are all seemingly linked
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: to a violent cult. The first incident, which occurred on
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: January the twenties, started as a routine immigration inspection in Lyndonville, Vermont.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: During a traffic stop, one of the individuals, Teresa Milo
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Consuelo Young Blut. Young Blut, drew a handgun and fired
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: upon one of the Border Patrol agents Border control agents.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: The other individual, Felix Ophelia Buckholt, attempted to draw their
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: handgun but was stopped when another Border Patrol agent returned
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: fire on the two. Bockholdt was pronounced dead at the scene,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: while Young Bolt, Young Blood and the Border Patrol agent,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: later identified as Air Force veteran David Miland, would be
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: taken to nearby medical centers for treatment. Miland would later die.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Young Blood would later be charged with quote intentional use
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: of a deadly weapon while forcibly assaulting or interfering with
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: federal law enforcement, and use and discharge of a firearm
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: during and in relation to an assault with a deadly
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: weapon end quote. Looking deeper into the two assailants, Bockholdt
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: was a German national and award winning youth math genius
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: who was staying in the US on a visa. Bockholdt
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: was also a biological male who identified as transgender. Young Blood,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: who was born biologically female but also identified as transgender,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: had been reported missing by her family since May of
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: last year. Her family said she cut off all contact
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: with them after entering what they described as an abusive
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: and controlling relationship. Young Blood's Blue Sky social media account,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: of course It's blue Sky, displays her fascination with Antifa
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: and other prominent far left groups. Both individuals had been
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: under law enforcement surveillance for at least a week prior
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: to the incidents. Staff at a motel they were staying
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: at reported that the couple were acting strange and were
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: spotted wearing black tactical clothing tacked to coool is what
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: we call it militia style protective gear, and were carrying firearms.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: When questioned by police, they claimed they were looking to
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: buy property in the area. After the shooting, police searched
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: their car and recovered two handguns, multiple firearm magazines, dozens
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: of loose rounds of ammunition, shooting targets, two way radios,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: and a dozen electronic devices, some of which were wrapped
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: in aluminum foil. The two handguns which the couple possessed can,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: through court records, be traced to an unarmed individual or
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: unnamed individual that is a person of interest in an
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: ongoing criminal investigation into the double homicide of an elderly
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: couple in the Delaware County, Pennsylvania. Both Richard Zajkoh and
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: his wife, Rita Zajko were brutally murdered on January two,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three at their home in Pennsylvania. Police
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: are still investigating the homicide and have said that they
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: are investigating a person of interest, but the individual has
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: not been named by police. The last incident involves a
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: brutal attack and eventual murder of one Curtis Lynde. Lynde
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: was a property owner in the area of Valeo, California.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: In mid November of twenty twenty two, he was injured
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: in a violent dispute concerning rental payment with a group
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: of tenants staying on his property. The dispute turned violent
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: when the group attacked him, beating him and later impaling
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: him with a samurai sword. Lynde, who was armed, fired
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: upon the group, hitting two of them. One of those injured,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Emma Bohuranian, would later die in the hospital. Two of
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: the group members, Suri Doo and Alexander Jeffrey Latham, would
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: later be arrested and charged with murder, attempted murder, and
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: aggravated mayhem for the death of their companion Boorhanian and
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: the attempted killing of Lynde. Lynde would eventually recover, albeit
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: with the loss of his right eye, and he would
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: go on to be the sole witness no pun intended
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: to his own attempted homicide. Lynde was set to testify
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: at the trial of Dow and Lethem in April, but
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: three days before the murder of US Border Patrol officer
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: David Mayland Lynde would be murdered by a black clad
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Assailian assailant who stalked him as he walked outside of
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: his property and stabbed him in the neck with a knife.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Shortly afterwards, Maximilian Snyder was arrested and charged with murder.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Snyder connects back to young Blood due to public records
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: showing an active marriage license in King County, Washington between
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: the two. All of these individuals, namely Youngblood, Buckolt, lethem
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Or Letham, and the daughter of the murdered couple in Pennsylvania,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Michelle Jamie Zashko, can be connected back to one group Zizz,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: an offshoot of the rationalist community Zizz. Ziz is a
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: cult of personality based around the individual jack Lesoda Or
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: as he is better known as Ziz. One of Buckolt's
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: personal friends, Jessica Taylor, attempted to warn her about the group,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: labeling it a murder gang. Speaking to a local news outlet,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Taylor explained that the group is obsessed with timeless decision theory,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: which is a rationalist belief suggesting that human decisions and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: their effects are mathematically quantifiable. She further explained that the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: group is obsessed with mathematics, artificial intelligence, veganism, and animal rights,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: with many in the group having degrees and jobs within
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: related to science and AI backgrounds. Snyder and young Blood
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: social media feeds also discuss such things. Postings from the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: rationalist forum website less wrong dot com indicate dow Letham
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: and Boranian as associates slash members of ZIZ, all of
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: whom were arrested in twenty nineteen after protesting together with
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: him in Berkeley, California. While further connections developed between these
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: individuals and this group, bockold And had her first hearing
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: in court yesterday, with another appearance to be had later
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: this week on Thursday. If convicted, she could be sentenced
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: to life in prison. Okay, that's the rite up. I mean,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: it's a friends vegan cult. So yeah, ziz ZIZ, that's right.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: And this came out of the rationalist community, which is
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: the community that also spawned what did they call them,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: skept chicks? Skeptics?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Oh really like Rebecca, Yeah.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: They like.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: Now there that doesn't associate her with this cult, no, no,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: but but it's.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the cult is.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: Like the Rationalist skeptic atheist like blob blob, I guess
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: I would call it because there's a lot of there's
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: a lot of differences of opinion within that group, that
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: large group about what is rational and what is irrational,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: what is religious and what is not religious. Because I
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: consider feminism to be religious, but the skeptic community considered
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: feminism to be given and uh, anti feminism to be
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: religious like trad con kind of religious. And so there's
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: different different believes in that community that are presented as
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: if they are uh, you know, proven facts or vetted ideas,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: when in fact there's still just beliefs. But one of
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: the interesting things that I've noted in regard to that
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: is people go down these rabbit holes about you know,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: this is the most logical or this is the most
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: rational or whatever, And especially when you get into attributing
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: things to math instead of using math. Math is a
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: language at a tool. It's a it's a way of
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: understanding quantities, that's all it is. And and and you know,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: you can measure quantities, you can figure out how quantities
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: interact with each other and what happens as a result,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: but it it isn't spiritual. Math is physical and it's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: not something. It's not magic, it's logic. And so when
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: you start taking something like that and spiritualizing it and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: treating it as if manipulating it allows you to manipulate
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: spiritual energy or there's some deep dark secrets in it
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: that will give you some sort of spiritual power as
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: opposed to just understanding how things around you operate, you
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: end up in a situation where you can drive yourself crazy.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: And I've seen people do it. This is it's not
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: even a new phenomenon. People have been doing this for centuries.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: It's interesting that they went after border patrol agent. And
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: obviously if there was a conflict, and it occurred in
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: the midst of the conflict, and there must be something
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: else going on.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: But so the Zizzians, these Zizians are a vegan, transgender, atheists,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: rationalist cult.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: So everything that that that you just described is irrational behavior.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: The idea that you should take an omnivorous species and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: exclude from the omnivore diet that this species has consumed
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: for centuries the best sources of protein omega six proteins, Like,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: that's stupid, right, that's not rational, and it's not better nutrition.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: Most of the reasons that people have for becoming vegan
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: are our emotional appeals, right, They're about how they feel
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: about animals. Similarly with with the trans stuff, gender dysphoria
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: is the the dysfunction, and it is fueled by emotion.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: You know, just like depression, the dysfunction in that is
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: fueled by emotion. Bipolar disorder the different. The dysfunction in
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: that is fueled by emotion. The pain and suffering that
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: you have from those those mental health conditions are fueled
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: by emotion. They're not rational, and you know, identifying with
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: these things isn't necessarily rational.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that it's wrong to have gender dysphoria
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: or betrands or decide that you're gonna eat and everything
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: except animals, uh that every every living thing that that
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: exists except animals. Right, But it's not rational. So when
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: they decide to call it rational, this is this is
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: one of the problems right with the woke. They're attributing
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: rationality and rightness and morality to things that aren't rational.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: They're not being a vegan or vegetarian or anything like that.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: It's morally neutral m hm. As long as you're not
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: imposing it on somebody else, it's a morally neutral act. Uh.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: And similarly, until you start engaging in imposition on other people,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: being trans is a morally neutral act. It doesn't matter
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: if you decide. You know, it matters to you obviously,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: and other people who care about you will have opinions
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: about it one way or another, but it doesn't affect
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: other people if you're trans. Yeah, all right, so none
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: of this is a big deal.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Apparently, these Zizians or zip Vividian Zizians, they have a
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: very high rate of homicide and suicide, right, So.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I guess the thing that I would
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: say about this is just like any other group of
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: people when they start advertising themselves to you as above
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: other groups like this, this religion is better than every
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: other group. This is the way and and you have
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: you can't have spiritual success without this religion or this
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: belief or this whatever. You have to go to this
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: specific church, you have to talk to these specific people,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: you have to sing these specific songs you you know,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: and all that. You should start asking a lot of
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: questions about that about uh, you know, how how rational
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: are these people in their and their beliefs? Because it's there,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: there's something wrong. Generally speaking, it's like if it sounds
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: too crazy to be true, you know, if it sounds
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: too good to be true, if it sounds too nice
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: to be true, or or if they have to add
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: something to skeptic or rationalist in order to uh describe
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: themselves that they have to add a modifier, then it's
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: no longer what they say. It is just like if
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: you have to add a modifier to justice, social justice, right,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: it's no longer.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Justice of course. Yeah, so those.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: People got caught up, caught up in a cult because
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: of their their woke ideals that they tried to rebrand
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: as rational and this is the result. This is crazy.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, might nothing nothing, Okay?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: I with everything.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild. It is a wild story. And and
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: again kind of like added on last minute. And so
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: but let me know what you guys think. I had
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: never heard of any of this, and now I'm like
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: kind of want to know more about this crazy rabbit
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: hole of the zizz Zizzians.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: I wonder how many of the people who joined this
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: cult grew up without dads.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Oh dude, I know I thought about that too, but
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I can't. I would speculate, but I mean, I think
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: we have a I'm pretty sure that that was a problem.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: There was definitely problems at home, and it probably has
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: something to do with absentee fathers for sure.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean the kind of thing that my dad
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: would have armed me against, you know when when I
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: was growing up, Like, why aren't you asking some questions
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: about what's really going on there? Because this is obviously
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: nuts what you know.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they should have just gotten into magic the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: gathering or Yu gi oh or something.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, but I mean, if you think about it,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: if your dad would not like you being a part
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: of something, you might want to ask some questions, what's
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: the hell is this really about? You know, what's the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: benefit of being part of this?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: For sure? I agree it's well again, it's the field
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: of the desire to feel like you belong. That's where
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of these people get swept up in various
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: like you know, movements and whatnot.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: So that's the other thing. If you're having so much
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: trouble fit finding a place to belong that you have
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: to join a cult, yeah, maybe seek help instead.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: For sure. All right, well we're gonna move on to
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: the next way. Let us. Know, you guys think about
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: this one in the comments. Okay, last one. It's a
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: bit of good news or potentially good news. So I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: know there's no image. It's kind of boring to look at,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: but I'll just sum it up. Okay. A group called Intaction,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: which is basically a group of intactivists. They announced today
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: that the New Hampshire Legislature is allowing public comment on
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: a bill that's been put forward. Okay, and I'll read
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: the letter. This is the public comment to the New
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: Hampshire public. I am contact seeing you about a bill
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: we have pending before the New Hampshire House of Health
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: and Human Services and Elderly Affairs Committee. The State House
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Health Committee is accepting written public comment on whether they
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: should stop using Medicaid to pay for infant circumcision. There
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: is presently a bill HB ninety four being debated that
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: would stop insurance payments for the practice of infant circumcision.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: You do not need to be a resident of New
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: Hampshire to offer a public comment. You can just click support.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: So blah blah blah. So there's been a bill put forward.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: The hearing is going to be on the twenty ninth
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: of this month, so that is tomorrow at one pm.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: To submit a public comment, click on there's a link
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: I can put it in the description. You can find
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: it actually in the Patreon page for this story for
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: this today's show, there's a link and then you can
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: go to the link in there. And so, yeah, it
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: looks like they're so what does this mean? So if
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: this bill passes, essentially what it's going to say is
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: that Medicaid will not cover circumcision. Now, is that a
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: bandoned circumcision? No, but shut up for a minute, because
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: these things don't happen overnight. But it does mean that
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be covered by insurance. So there
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: is at least a recognition if this goes through, that
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: circumcision should not be normalized to that degree. So anyway,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's good overall. So what do you guys think?
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: Well, for one thing, medicaids shouldn't be covering circumcision because
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: Medicaid shouldn't be covering anything outside of disability payments like
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: disability treatments, and obviously having a penis is not a disability.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: Feminists can say it is, but there shouldn't be a
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: welfare department outside of any assistance for people with disabilities,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: and that that should only be covered long enough to
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: get it back into the private section, which does a
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: better job than the government. But as far as the
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: men's issues perspective is concerned, there is no benefit to
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: having Medicare or Medicaid or any other government insurance promoting
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: by coverage this procedure. The procedure doesn't benefit the patient.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: It does damage. It causes emotional trauma, it causes physical trauma,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: It leaves a scar, actually leaves quite a bit of scarring,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: and it causes complications. I mean, yeah, yeah, it causes
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: it's a it's a loss of functional tissue that actually
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: has a purpose, and it causes that purpose to not
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: be served, so you end up with with health problems afterward.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: And in addition to that, the lies that have been
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: used to promote this procedure cause behavior that is careless
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: because the individual thinks that he has protected in a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: way that he is not protected, and that can put
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: people at risk. There have been studies in the same
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: areas where they did this, the fake studies that they
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: came out and said, you know, circumcision protects against certain STIs.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: They did studies later on after it was demonstrated that
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: the information in the previous ones was wrong, that the
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: studies weren't real studies, that it actually came out. Men
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: who have been told that they are protected by this
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: procedure engage in much riskier sexual behavior and have a
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: higher risk of other STIs and so like herpes gonnerrhea.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: And by the way, guys, just so you know, there
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: is now a multiple drug resistant, antibiotic resistant gun rhea
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: out there.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, careful.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: Where you put it. What's going to point out the
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: act there there, It's an act that they're putting forward.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: It's called the Children's Body Autonomy Act. And the reason
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: why I think this is a really fantastic thing is
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: not just because of what it does, but what it
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: sets the precedent to do. So this could set a
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: precedent and there could be more movement towards, you know,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: at least like having a serious conversation about circumcision. And
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: it really only affects boys. There's no there is no
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: equivalent for girls in the States. So yeah, that's what
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: I think. I think it's good news.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: Well, and it even if you think there's a good
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: purpose for it, there isn't anything that needs to be
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: done prior to the age of majority, when the individual
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: can make that decision for himself.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Mm hm.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: So there's no reason for this to be done to
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: infants at all. It should just be completely abolished in
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: terms of but it is very good that the government
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: has stopped. One of the main reasons that this has
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: survived in the United States is because it's so lucrative.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: You have, first of all, the you know, the child's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: born in the hospital. The hospital does the procedure, they charge,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: they cut off party, your dickon, and they charge an
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: arm and a leg right, and then they keep the
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: tissue that they have removed from your child and they
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: sell it and your child gets nothing. You pay, and
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: then they sell your child's bodily tissue and your child
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: gets nothing, nothing but trauma that in and of itself
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: should be criminal.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, Mike, what do you think about this?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: I know you're vocal about the circumcision thing.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: I think anyone who mutilates children should be deported to
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: their country of origin and then executed. Now that may
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: seem obvious, but there's that bit in the middle of
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: being deported to their country of origin. Take this from
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: someone who lives in a country where the majority of
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: child mutilation is being done by people not of my country,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: And so it's very difficult to figure out how on
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: earth we could possibly punish them, because we obviously can't
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: deport them, How could we possibly do that? Then they
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: could go on to commit other such heinous crimes of
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: mutilating children's centers in another country, and we can't let
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: them do that in another country. We've got to let
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: them do that here in this country. But that opens
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: up this whole wasps nest, this top, this whole can
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: of worms, of other ways in which children get mutilated,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: especially genitally. We have to ask, well, should we employ
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: capital punishment for them? Should we hang them from the
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: fucking gallows? And I'm like, yes, yes, everyone who mutilates
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: children's genitals should be strung up from a fucking use
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: in the public square. But it's not gonna happen. It's
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: not gonna happen anytime soon, because we're fucked. We're far
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: more likely to see people getting hanged from the gallows
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: for saying, hey, maybe maybe all those foreigners shouldn't be
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: allowed to rape all all those native kids and I
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: thank you America for being for allowing me to say
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: these things. I'm very worried about what's going to happen
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: to me when I finally arrived back in Britain in
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: two and a half weeks.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 9: Ah, because because my because my fellow locacy, or at
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 9: least friend of the show Callum is h is currently
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 9: being detained by Busy.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: The anti terrorist British police because he recently arrived back
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: in Britain after after having spent a long time in
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: the US. I mean, yeah, he's been to Afghanistan. Yes,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: he's been to Russia. That's probably got a lot to
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: do with it.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but you're worse. You're in the Land
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: of the It's mega country. So that's like, and I've
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: been here. I've been here for like two and a
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: half months enough to be radicalized by our like very
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: crazy ideas about freedom.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah that I'm going to try. I'm going to try
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: and enjoy myself as best I can. Yeah, the Land
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: of the Free for the next two weeks before I
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: go like a lot of vodka For all I know,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be kept in a holding cell the
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: rest of my life. So yeah, as as of February
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: the sixteenth. If you don't hear back from me, it's
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: probably because I'm in one of those holding cells being
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: being interrogated as to how close I am to these
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: right wing groups, these American right wing groups, whom we
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: can't possibly tolerate.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course in Europe.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me, guys, I love
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: you so much.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: Ah, thanks Mike. All right, well, let us let you
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  Speaker 10: Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 10: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 10: deal with, especially if you have like especially if you
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 10: have like a couple of dudes who have good memory.
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  Speaker 10: On top of that, too, holy shit, you're fucked