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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 7 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, December seven. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.
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  Speaker 1: Jack Wars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and
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  Speaker 1: now a guy who definitely knows you don't blitz when
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  Speaker 1: you have no corners, Jay Peace Shadrick. It was a
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  Speaker 1: roller coaster of emotions yesterday here in studio. Welcome in
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday, presented by Jet Home Loans.
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  Speaker 1: My name's j P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco and Tony Boselli.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up, we have a busy program. We'll recap the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Vikings game. The defense battled throughout. Four turnovers on
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  Speaker 1: offense sealed the fate, especially the overtime. When we'll go
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  Speaker 1: around the a f C South and not so powerful
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  Speaker 1: draft order, Thanks a lot, Jets, We'll go around on
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League. The Raiders touchdown in the final seconds.
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  Speaker 1: There was a five minute window where the Jags had
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  Speaker 1: the number one overall pick yesterday and then Greg Williams
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  Speaker 1: decided to bring eight on a fourth and forever play.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars, though, had moments where they could have won
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  Speaker 1: the game yesterday in Minnesota. The interception and overtime sealed it, though,
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  Speaker 1: and the field goal won it for Minnesota, and ot
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  Speaker 1: Doug Marone after the game about his team battling the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the way. You know, he listened. Today, we
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  Speaker 1: turned the ball over, we gave up points on turnover.
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  Speaker 1: We we we did some things that we were trying to
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  Speaker 1: get done. We still had an opportunity late in the game.
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  Speaker 1: You know, defense had a really good stop and then
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  Speaker 1: we get appendalty on our special team play. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we started the deep and then then to pick. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, there's there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things that are going on, and you know, we'll continue
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  Speaker 1: to keep fighting and keep working our way through. But
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  Speaker 1: the one thing is that you know, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: situations like this and the way this team is just
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're going to continue to support each other
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  Speaker 1: and continue to keep fighting until it all aside. It's
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  Speaker 1: over head coach Jack Marone after the game yesterday, Pete
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  Speaker 1: Frisco Tony Baselli with us. Now, good afternoon, gentlemen. Pete,
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  Speaker 1: what are you What are you shaking your head for?
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  Speaker 1: Because I could I can't imagine what the people in
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville were feeling for about five minutes until that play
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  Speaker 1: in the Jets game. I mean all they were thinking
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  Speaker 1: about is Trevor Lawrence. You know, I know what they
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  Speaker 1: were thinking. They were thinking, Trevor Lawrence will be ours.
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  Speaker 1: Don't score, don't score, don't get the two point play,
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  Speaker 1: don't get the two point play. And they got the
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  Speaker 1: two point play and went to overtime, still lost the game.
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  Speaker 1: And then Greg Williams with his zero coverage with a
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  Speaker 1: backup corner, who is this scrappy pick up? Really want
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  Speaker 1: to drive the nail home a little bit for the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar fans, David Bryan, who you picked ahead of Lamar Jackson? Right? Well,
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  Speaker 1: now you got Lamar Jackson corner who ruined your chances
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  Speaker 1: of getting Trevor Lawrence. That name is not good and
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars lure is it? Well? Um, there's left? Uh when
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  Speaker 1: I say a lot four games and I'm a believer
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  Speaker 1: that I actually think the Jags are gonna win one
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  Speaker 1: more game because we'll get into the team in a
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  Speaker 1: second where specifically because they play hard. If you know
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  Speaker 1: this as well as I do, late in the season,
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  Speaker 1: not those the most talented team wins when teams start
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  Speaker 1: mailing it in and things got to go sideways. Is
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  Speaker 1: a team that plays hard and you find ways to
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  Speaker 1: win games that maybe you shouldn't or your last talented
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  Speaker 1: and I'll put the one on the board right now
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  Speaker 1: is that Chicago Bears team is not very good and
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  Speaker 1: they're they're spiraling out of control offensively now the defense
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  Speaker 1: is starting to play poorly, and I could see them
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  Speaker 1: mailing it in because this is a team that was
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  Speaker 1: five and one at one point, they're now five and seven.
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  Speaker 1: I think this team that Dug Brones coaching will play
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  Speaker 1: hard the rest of the year. Um, and I can
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  Speaker 1: see them winning one more So. Well, what Greg Williams
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  Speaker 1: did yesterday to me is less offensive as a Jaguar
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  Speaker 1: fan because there's just so many things that still can happen. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I do think we'll win one more game. It's
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  Speaker 1: more offensive as a football person that you would call
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  Speaker 1: that defense because, um, every one of my five kids,
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  Speaker 1: from my eleven year old daughter to my twenty year
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  Speaker 1: old son, would know better that on third and fifteen
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  Speaker 1: with thirteen seconds left, when the opponent has no touchdowns, that, um,
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  Speaker 1: you don't go all out and play zero coverage in
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  Speaker 1: man outside against guys who are really fast and you're not,
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  Speaker 1: and that all you have to do is tackle them
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  Speaker 1: in within the field of play and the game's over.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't know a person in my
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  Speaker 1: life from my parents in their seventies, to my daughter,
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  Speaker 1: to my sons, to my wife. Do you pe to
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  Speaker 1: j P who went to Alabama? I mean too, I
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  Speaker 1: mean you name it. You could just go across the
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  Speaker 1: board everybody and the whole more. Somebody living in some
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  Speaker 1: remote part of another country that's never scenes before. If
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  Speaker 1: you told him the situation would not go all outlets
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  Speaker 1: in zero coverage. It's offensive to me and he I
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  Speaker 1: know Greg, and I'd tell Greg to his face this
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  Speaker 1: and he deserved to be fired after making that kind
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  Speaker 1: of mistake. That is like unreal, what's the what's the
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  Speaker 1: end game on? You know, he's always been arrogant. You
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  Speaker 1: know that he was bounty game. He's always been cocky
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  Speaker 1: and arrogant, going back to the days when he was
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  Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator in Tennessee and he was a hated
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  Speaker 1: guy back then for Jaguar fans. Now they should hate
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  Speaker 1: him even more. I mean, my gosh. And here's the
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  Speaker 1: other thing, Tony that you you probably didn't know this
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  Speaker 1: JP probably does on the play before they were kind
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  Speaker 1: of in zero cover and the guy was wide open
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  Speaker 1: and he missed them, car missed them. I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: and here's hold on at one point though, after you've
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  Speaker 1: dodged a bullet on the one before his gaze not
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  Speaker 1: go Hey, everybody, get back, get back, everyone back up right,
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  Speaker 1: You're fired right now, get off the field. I'm taking
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  Speaker 1: over as defensive coordinator. Everyone back up to the end
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  Speaker 1: line and tackle. Well, you know what happened. And I
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  Speaker 1: mocked this on one of our shows yesterday. The call
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  Speaker 1: came down Christopher Johnson, Adam gaze please yes, Uh, anybody,
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  Speaker 1: including Lamar Jackson, gets a little X or something in
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  Speaker 1: their check if they act like they're defending a guy
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  Speaker 1: and let him go buydown. That's basically what happened. No,
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  Speaker 1: it did not. But here's the other thing. Don't you
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  Speaker 1: alert your defensive backs if a guy's running by it,
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  Speaker 1: pull them down, tackle them right? How about this? Why
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  Speaker 1: are you biting on a double roots gonna do? Tony?
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  Speaker 1: He's an undrafted corner. What do you expect. I don't
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  Speaker 1: blame him, I blame the coach. I blame Greg Williams.
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  Speaker 1: You don't put your players in situations where they can't
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  Speaker 1: succeed and they put him in a position where you
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  Speaker 1: can't succeed. That is I can't stress this enough for
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  Speaker 1: everyone listening to us, and who will listen to us
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  Speaker 1: the rest of this week. That is the most basic
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  Speaker 1: play in all of football. I guarantee you whoever is
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  Speaker 1: the defensive quality control guy on that staff could have
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  Speaker 1: wind them everyone up and been more successful than Greg
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  Speaker 1: Williams has been a defensive court here for thirty years. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Here's here's one point. What are your teammates is on
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  Speaker 1: that's one of your former teammates is on that staff.
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  Speaker 1: I know you ask him, what do you think? I'm surprised, no,
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  Speaker 1: uh brand, But he didn't run out there that Brorier
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  Speaker 1: did not run out there and tackle Greg Williams and
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  Speaker 1: get a flag before the play went on. And I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you another guy, another Jacksonville fiery guy for from Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: Shawan Jefferson. I'm surprised he did daggle him. Hey, isn't.
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  Speaker 1: Greg Williams is known for that a little bit though, right,
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  Speaker 1: bringing a little heat. Not that he's been a big
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  Speaker 1: blitz guy, but why would you blitz in that situation?
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  Speaker 1: And you know, if you're Tony were talking about this
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  Speaker 1: before the show. I see it all the time in
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  Speaker 1: hail Mary's too, rush three, drop what six? But usually
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  Speaker 1: they drop six and they leave two in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the field that have no nothing to do with
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  Speaker 1: the play zero. So either I'm a big believer if
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  Speaker 1: you're a hail may, if you're in a hail Mary
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  Speaker 1: situation or a long situation, bring those guys, bring one
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  Speaker 1: of them, rush the extra guy to try and flush
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  Speaker 1: them out, make the throw harder, and drop the other
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  Speaker 1: guy if you're in the middle of the field. So
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  Speaker 1: what if he catches you, rush up, you tackle him
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  Speaker 1: in the game's over. Yeah, but you wouldn't drop him
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  Speaker 1: where you'd have five on the back line and three
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  Speaker 1: in the middle. You'd have because they're not going to
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  Speaker 1: throw in the middle anyway, Like, what correct do you
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  Speaker 1: come up and tackle? It's sometimes coaching is just mystifying.
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  Speaker 1: And that was just bold arrogance and it cost the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars a chance. What's what's the feeling in town been
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  Speaker 1: like today? I mean, people get up there. Fairness didn't
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  Speaker 1: cost us anything at this point because there's still a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of football aren't winning another game? Don't you just
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  Speaker 1: stop it. I think they win one more. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're going one in. Can the Jets win one?
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  Speaker 1: We mean, just loo they play they play Seattle? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they're not winning that one, right. The Giants beat the
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  Speaker 1: heck out of Seattle. Yeah, and that's even worse for
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  Speaker 1: the That's even worse for the Jets, isn't it. Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: They got Seattle, the Rams, the Browns, and the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: So somebody, and again, this theory is out there week seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we'd sixteen seventeen. They pay, Patriots decide, guys
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  Speaker 1: get hurt so they don't get Trevor Lawrence, who knows,
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  Speaker 1: who knows what happens? I mean, but on the surface,
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  Speaker 1: if you look at the two edules, jet Wards maybe
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  Speaker 1: can beat the Bears. Which one is the maybe in
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  Speaker 1: that net scenario for the Jet for the Jets, I
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  Speaker 1: think the Browns because the Jets have a decent run defense,
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  Speaker 1: and I just don't. I still don't trust the Browns,
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  Speaker 1: even though I had a great game last weekend, and
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  Speaker 1: I think they always played the Patriots tough. I can
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  Speaker 1: see them beating the Patriots. Patriots are a team that
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  Speaker 1: can like jackal and hide I mean, who knows what
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get, although they scored forty five points, because
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers might have the worst special team situation in
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  Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. UM, I think they can
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  Speaker 1: be Listen, I don't think it's gonna happen, bet, but
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  Speaker 1: I think they can. I don't think they can beat
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks or the Rams on the road. That's back
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  Speaker 1: to back West Coast game. That's just not happening. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think they can beat the Browns at home? And
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  Speaker 1: I do think they can go up to up the road,
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  Speaker 1: uh to New England and beat the Patriots. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: because the one without lout by losing. The Jaguars lost yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: They lost twice, just brutal. What a wild five minute window.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, so um, let's come back. We'll get into
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  Speaker 1: the Jags Vikings game when we return. We'll start with
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  Speaker 1: the defense, because they played a pretty good game yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I think in whole A little later we'll get into
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  Speaker 1: Mike Glennan's day. He had three a couple of receptions
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  Speaker 1: of fumble as well, and planning to get to in
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  Speaker 1: questions will go around the NFL. We are off and running.
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  Speaker 1: games like that or moments like that for a lot
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  Speaker 1: the guys, like you said, after they scored those few times,
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  Speaker 1: something we gotta work on, improve on, and we gotta
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  Speaker 1: be able to experience it and get better at Joe Schobert,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguar's linebacker, had his best day as a Jaguar yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour j P. Shadrick
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  Speaker 1: with Pete Briscoe and Tony Boselli. Your social questions coming
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  Speaker 1: up in the second hour. Schobert yesterday had twelve tackles,
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  Speaker 1: a sack, two quarterback hits, and an interception returned for
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown and another past defense as well. It's a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good day at the office for Scholbert, who's now
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  Speaker 1: he's in the top ten. I think he's seventh in
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  Speaker 1: the league in total tackles this year. But Tony, that
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  Speaker 1: was his best day overall, at least statistically as a jack. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: it was. I mean the interception, he got good awareness
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  Speaker 1: and he's playing band coverage. Are trying to set a
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  Speaker 1: scream up, screen up and Domin Cook and Kirk Cousins
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  Speaker 1: weren't on the same page and so it doesn't get
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  Speaker 1: any easier than that. But he like he read it.
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  Speaker 1: He was in the right place. So um, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't notice some more yesterday, And you bring up the
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  Speaker 1: statistics and maybe Pete and I are wrong. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I would say we've been critical of him, but we
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  Speaker 1: haven't been glowing in our praise. But you know, being
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  Speaker 1: top ten and tackles means something. He's around the ball
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  Speaker 1: a lot um, he's been solid, he's been available, and
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  Speaker 1: I think the greatest thing he's done this year is
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  Speaker 1: allowing Miles jack. But play will linebacker, and so it's
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  Speaker 1: a win getting it because he lets Miles Jack play
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  Speaker 1: the week's side linebacker. Look, he's been okay. Nobody ever
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  Speaker 1: said he was terrible. He's just been okay. But they're
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  Speaker 1: paying a lot of money for okay. I mean that
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  Speaker 1: was our point. The point was get that. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: tackle statistics stature a little bit always questionable. You're not questionable,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, it's how teams do it and everything
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  Speaker 1: else in NFL ultimately is the final sign off on it.
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  Speaker 1: But let's get the guy credit. He's top ten tackle.
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  Speaker 1: It is what it is. I mean, the numbers speak
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  Speaker 1: for themselves after after twelve games being um up there
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  Speaker 1: and one of the highest producers as far as making tackles.
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  Speaker 1: Meet something. Okay, he's think he's played to the head. Well, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's hard sometimes, I mean, because here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes on bad team you get overlooked and you're playing
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  Speaker 1: better than you get credit for it. Other times you're
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  Speaker 1: on a bad team, you're making all the tackles because
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  Speaker 1: no one else is. And so which is it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. Nevil Ewit of the Jets
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  Speaker 1: is too behind him? Is Nevil you it's a really
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  Speaker 1: good linebacker. You just made my point, Pete. That's what
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, you have to get to step
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: back and look at the numbers. But he's been okay, nobody,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: we haven't ripped him or anything. I just think that's
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: saying we have. I'm saying, maybe we should be giving
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: me a more credit. No, I agree with you, he's
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: been okay. We're not. I don't think anyone on the
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: show's ripped Joosh over at one time. Um, not at all.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I'll say this. I thought the defensive performance yesterday was impressive. Um,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: they're putting bad situations offense, turn the ball over four
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: times defensively, you're ay when we get two turnovers? Um,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: a little bit fortunate on the miss, you know, the
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the miss handoff by Cousins, the Dalvin Cook. But I
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: think it was creative because quality is up the field
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and penetrate in the backfield disrupting it. I thought they
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: played good. I mean, think about this, how about your
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: starting how about your starting defensive line yesterday? Be Um
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: want to move uh costas the quality and uh and
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Doug Coston. It's amazing, it's amazing. And by the way
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: they're getting better. Doug Coston is like, I mean, you
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: have a former first rounder who doesn't get on the
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: field with a bunch of undrafted rookie free agents and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: guys who are off the street showing up, ye, Doug costUS.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Doug Coston is going to be a good player, which
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: means yeah, which means think about this. You have too.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: You could argue with the Von Hambleton and I are
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: are the best two rookies on this team to drafted
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: guys Doug Coston and James Robinson right now? They are? Yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: it's well, I mean, you know you gotta throw in
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah you I mean should not to be in the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: conversation with you and her, but you know you're right, right, Yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you're right. It's the two are undrafted and and and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I think Costin is one of those guys that can
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: hang around for a while. I think he's a good
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: building block. I think he's a player, he's a good
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: role Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if you like you
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: want to hang your hand and say, hey, we want
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you playing sixty snaps the game and you're gonna be
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: disruptive and take over football games. But he's a rotation
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: guy and you can build with. So he's just off
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the TV. It looked like Chasm was a little more
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: active yesterday. Yeah, I think that's fair. Um, I wonder though.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I said it before the game and I got laughed
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: at the pregame because we're trying like how do the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Jags win? Where do they have an advantage? And I said,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's Vikings off the lines very good.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I think they're small. I don't think they're physical, and
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I think they get pushed around and the Jaguars pushing around.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And so I mean, not that we're gonna talk about
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the Vikings much, but I don't see the Vikings doing much.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: They might sneak into the playoffs just because the NFC
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: is such a mess, but I don't see them doing
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: much and they can't win at the line of scrimmage. Well,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: they played Tampa, they played Tampa in New Orleans and
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: two of the next four they're not getting in the postseason. Yeah,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think so either. But give the defense credit
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: because they stood up when they had to it over time.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: You know, the made some plays, they got stuff done. Um,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: they disrupted you know the Vikings offense, which is not great,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: but you know, Dalvin Cook held them into four yards
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: to carry you daveraging five point two coming in. That's
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a good job. But you have to agree though that
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: with Costin and Hambleton's and Smooth, you have a good
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: nucleus of what I mean, Hamilton's end up being the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: starting knows, but a good group of guys that could
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: be on that defensive line with Josh Allen. Yeah, yeah,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: but Smooth is a free agent. I mean, what do
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you what do you have to pay to give him back?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: You think here's the thing, and I'm and you know
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you guys, I'm believer in Josh Allen. But all those
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, it's nice, they're good rotation players, but
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you have to have a difference maker. Where's the difference maker?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: And it's gonna have to be Josh Allen. Now, we
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: thought he was a difference maker after his rookie Here,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I'm giving him a pass this year because of all
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the injuries and kind of what we went through. But
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: he boy, you you're counting on him being a different
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: to maker because I don't see from this point. It's early,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: but Jason doesn't look like a difference maker as a
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: four three defensive mean to me, well, yeah, I'll tell
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you what. He's got to pick it up in the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: last four games to show that he's not a major
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: disappointment because he hasn't done much at all. I just
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: thought he was a little more active. It looked a
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: little more comfortable for him yesterday off the TV. Now
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just going off the TV and I
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: watched the tape. So you have to always you always
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: have to give young defensive end, especially guys who are
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: kind of hybrid in college. Give him a pass, not
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: a pass, but give me a year to get stronger,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: give me a year to develop pass rush skills, and
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: hopefully that happens. But you know, the early returns are
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of questions, by the way, but you would
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: think you would think that he would I mean, okay,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: like Bud Dupree was a guy in his first couple
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: of years that people thought he might be a bust.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Remember his first year. You know, nobody sacks he had
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: his first year or I mean, at least think you'd
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: fall into a couple, wouldn't you. Yeah, that's I agree.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: By the way, Um, Tavin Bryant has not been mentioned
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: on this show yet sixteen snaps out of ninety one yesterday.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Kudos to the coaching staff for that. By the way,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: kudos to the coaches staff. If you don't earn your
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: way to have more time, play the guy who is
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: no matter where he comes from, and I give him
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: credit for that. Some teams would hold on to the
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: idea of keeping a first pick higher into rotation. If
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you don't earn it, don't play him. I think that's
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: great for the staff that they did that. And what
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: was that? What was the stat lines in six place?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: He had none. He's not on the statue, so it's
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: about par for the course. He had a he had
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: a Taven Bryant stat line. Yeah, it's it's it's you know, listen.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to beat up on the become the guy.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: It's just it hasn't worked out so far. What do
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you mean it hasn't worked out so far? He said,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: How kind do you It hasn't worked out so far. Boy.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I pray. I pray every night.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I'm get down on my hands and knees. I'm gonna
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: pray that you become some kind of personnel decision maker
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: in that organization, because you know why, I think, Hey,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you I'm gonna read that. I'm gonna
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: be dead serious here for a second. JP. I think
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Baseli would be outstanding as a vice president of player
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: personnel or football operations. He would hire a good lieutenant
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: because he doesn't. You haven't come through the scouting ranks, Tony.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: You don't know what the scouting ways are and everything.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: So you do like John Lynch. John Lynch hired Adam
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Peters in San Francisco because he came up through the ranks.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Tony could handle the overseeing the whole thing and be
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the decision maker along with a good lieutenant like you know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: like Adam Peters or somebody from another organization. And then
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I can sit on the radio every Monday and just
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: blister him and blister him and blister him for his
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: bad decision that draft pick. Oh my goodness, doing you.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I think I appreciate you saying that in the serious moment.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Now the less serious moment, I think part of your
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: prayers are just so you could just torch me as
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: much as you possibly could. But you could be like
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: you picked that guy you picked a running back forth
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: overall in the world. First of all, you know I
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: would never do that. That's the first thing. Um. The
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: second thing is is anytime you did rip me, I'd
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: be calling you right on the phone saying, hey, let's
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: have a little discussion about this, Mr Prisco. Okay, just
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: like when we when I covered you when you were
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: a player, you I always good Mike Town and you
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: always came to me and stood your ground. I like
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: that respect that. Yeah, but yeah, it's a The hard
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: part right now, shifting back to the game, is we're
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: searching for positives in the team that's lost the leven straight.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: It's hard, and it's hard, and by the way, none
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: of the fans want to hear it. The fans right
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: now are basically where Peat is, like, Hey, I hope
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the Jets lose or win, and I hope we lose
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: every game. And that's not where you want to be
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: as an organization. That's the frustrating part. I thought Trey
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Herndon did some good things yesterday. Herndon had nine tackles,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: he had tackle for loss, he had a past defense
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: as well. He's good in the He's a nickel I
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: think Pete he's good in that slot. He's physical, he
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: can come play the run, He's not afraid to stick
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: his head in there. I think he'll become a better blitzer. Um.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: The only thing I want to see is is is
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: making sure he has the short you know, the short
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: area quickness to play that slot position. But the really
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: good slot corners are physical players who are smart players,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and they recognize and identify pre snap kind of what
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the options and play good leverage and everything else. And
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I think Trey Herning can be that type of player. Okay,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: so let's get some positives off the defense. I know
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the offense a little bit, but
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: give me a couple of positives off the I thought
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: he was one. I thought just off smooth played well
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: at times. Who else jack Jackie I mean Jackie Show.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Uh well, I thought Dwayne Schmoot is proving his case
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and saying, hey, listen, I could be a rotational player
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: here and make you know, a few million bucks a
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: year as a defensive in this league. Like he's starting
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: like earlier, Like my goodness, I mean, you don't want
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to put him out there. Uh. In his career, he's
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: really turned into a pro. And I give him credit.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: We mentioned Coston. I think Coston is a positive. I think, gods,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: this continues to play better and better as he gets
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: his knee all the way back from having his a
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: c L last year. As far as a run defender, um,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I thought that was positive. In the overall run defense,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I thought was a real positive of the day. It's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: actually a really good backup defensive line. That's they just
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: happened to be started. That's where we are. That's good,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: that's where we are. You got that covered at least, Hey,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: let's come back. We'll get to the offense when we return.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Mike Glennon's day and he's going to have another day
• 28:42
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• 28:45
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  Speaker 1: Well hear from Doug maron coming up in just a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, um so he one final thought on defense
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  Speaker 1: by one smooth guys. Is the team leader in sacks,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: tackles for loss and quarterback hits this year. Think about that.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way it's going. He's having a good year.
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  Speaker 1: What's the four and a half sacks now? Correct? Correct? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's I mean has a chance maybe to get the seven,
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  Speaker 1: you know if he finishes strong this year. Um for more.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows what he gets. But he's playing good football.
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  Speaker 1: He's a solid football player and he's a you know
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  Speaker 1: used to Yeah, Pete, but think about this way where
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  Speaker 1: maybe you know, he's the starting end across from you know,
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  Speaker 1: the other side. St if Josh Allen becomes what we
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  Speaker 1: think he was after hiss riki yere take this year out,
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  Speaker 1: you know he's the other side of it. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a good thing because you know this JP, you
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  Speaker 1: new as well. You don't build a team with a
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: bunch of superstars. It's just it's impossible in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: because in the cap you have to have good, strong
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: role players that are gonna be that mid to lower
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  Speaker 1: salary range that can be productive and help you win.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, go to look at any championship team, go
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  Speaker 1: know who they are. But they're guys who can step
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  Speaker 1: in and come make plays and are productive and are solid.
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  Speaker 1: Because you built you have your handful of superstars starting
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: with the quarterback that can help you, that enable you
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to win the games. But you have to have those
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: role players and uh, and I do think there's some
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: of those guys. There's a number of those guys on
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: this team right now. Yeah, like Mike Panell on the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs just a j why body guy comes in there
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: and stuffing. Yeah, you have to have those kind of guys.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: And Smoot is one of those guys. I would I
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: would keep him. I would, you know, make sure that
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: these guys that are playing, I think they all are
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: part of a rotation. But you've got to get more.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: And you know, we talk this could have been a
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: really a good week for the Jaguars, and that if
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: they lost that game at overtime and showed well, which
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: is ideal scenario Joe growth and still lose and they
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: almost had Trevor for Lawrence because the Jets always one.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: But more than that, the news that the cap is
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be a little higher than everybody expected. You
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: know what, that means more cap room to spend. It's
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: a plumb job, and anybody who says that in the
• 35:43
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• 35:47
  Speaker 1: it's a great job and there's so many assets available.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Shot Con will spend. Uh, you have the money to spend,
• 35:55
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• 35:58
  Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of raft pick capital. I mean,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: it's it should be a great situation to turn that
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: thing around well, and what this team is missed on
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: is getting those difference makers at the top of the draft.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: And that's what you have to hit on. And because
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: you have number one, you have to have the difference
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: maker quarterback. That's easy to set that aside for a second,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: but you have to have guys that, um you draft
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: early or if you get them and pay them a
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: much money, that are difference makers that determine the outcomes
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: of game, make game changing plays, go over above and beyond.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: You know, I used to love when Tom Cofflin used
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: to screen play up on or you know, because there's
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: certain guys on every team or the good teams that
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: could go above and beyond the way that the play
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: was designed, or take that design play and create a
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: big play, whether it's offensively or defensively. And if you
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: look at the one year in the last you know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: fifteen or whatever the number is that they went to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the playoffs in seventeen and while offensively they had a
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: bunch of issues and they got by with Blake and
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: you know, just a so so uh group, they had
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: a bunch of difference makers who made differences. On defense,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: they had plays Campbell, who's in the running for defensive
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Player of the Year. They had Jalen Ramsey, who's the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: best corner of football that year. They had a number
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: two in An j Boy. I mean they had you know,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: they had guys and Miles jack at Telvin. They had
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: playmakers who made a difference, you know inside Malie Jackson
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: and Marcella dari is Um And so that's what the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: good teams are. You're not gonna have. And maybe they
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: had a bunch of them, some older, some younger, but
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you need those great players sprinkled around your roster, starting
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: with the quarterback and some you know, protect the quarterback,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: affect the quarterback, and speed on the outside on the
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: back half of your defense that can make place and
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: can you know, and allow you and allows you as
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: a coach when there's an offensive cornator defense coordinator to
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: design schemes and to do things that really stress a
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: defense or on offense. And I think you look at
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: this team, Pete, there's there's a bunch of nice role
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: players players maybe could potentially one or two get there,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: but you just don't have enough of room right now.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And you you mentioned it, like playmakers, And let's let's
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: go to the Chiefs. Okay, we'll use the Chiefs as
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: an example. And by the way, their first round drafting
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: hasn't been great either, considering who's on the roster right now.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: But but they have a playmaker in Kelsey. He wasn't
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the first round pick. I think it was a third.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: You have a playmaker, and Tyreek Hill you have clearly
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: a playmaker. And Patrick Mahomes it was a first round pick.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Neither Tyree Hill or Kelsey work. Okay, they paid to
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: get him. Yeah, but Chris Jones playmaker right one, the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: first rounder, Frank Clark they paid. They paid to get him,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Honey Badger, they paid to get him. Those are your playmakers.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Now you look at their drafting, and this is where
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: it goes back to what we always say about the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: quarterback cures. Here's the first round picks. Mahomes was in seventeen,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hillier this year. So, but he's he's a playmaker,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: but he's a running back. Marcus Peters no longer there,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: d Ford no longer there, Eric Fisher starting left tackle.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Then it gets into then then you're back into like
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve where it really doesn't matter, and
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: it was done Terry Poe. So the point is you
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: can gist. Okay, let me stop you there, um, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: so maybe let me reclassify. Maybe you don't find it
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: on the top of the draft, but you have to
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: find playmakers somewhere, like you have to find difference makers.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: It should be easier on the front end. And yes,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, maybe they're an anomaly, they haven't hit on
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the front end whatever, but you know what they've done.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: They found playmakers in the draft and in free agency
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: that make a difference on your roster. And yes they
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: have the quarterback that is huge. And guess what, they
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: also hit on the right tackle and Mitchell Swords, who's
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: not playing as well this year but in the past,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: is one of the better right tackles. I mean, they've
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: hit on pieces that are important to building a football team.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: And they have a great coach and great system, great culture.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: All those things go into it. And so you have
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: to find them somewhere. I don't care where you find them,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: finding the draft, find free agency. They gotta be on
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: your team. Um. But but also you look at their
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: free agent and their first round picks they had, they
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: didn't blow any of them. Marcus Peters was a good player.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: They traded him away. D Ford was a good player
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: that they got rid of them, they traded away. But
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: they were good players and if they were healthy, if
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: D four was healthy now he'd still be a good player.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: From now, you can't miss and basically what you're saying,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you can't miss those ones. And the Jaguars have missed
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: far too many of them have more than not. And
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: that's a problem. You know, they're either just average players
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: or that we're bad players. You know, very few, you
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: know how many in the last you know, since first
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: rounders were difference makers one, Yeah, JAYL Ramsey, Yeah, well
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: for net for for a year. Maybe now he wasn't
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: consistent enough. No, James ron is a better player than
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: him that you got undrafted. I mean, but if you
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: think about that, Pete, there was only one you can't
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and and this is a team that's consistently drafted in
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the top Now. The book is still out on Josh Allen,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: so we'll wait and see. Very good rookie year this
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: year is kind of but you know, right off because
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: of injuries and all the things that went on. Um,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: so maybe he is as well. C. J. Henderson Way
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: too early, Um, chas On way too early. So we'll
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: wait and see what those guys developed into. But the
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: bottom line is the bigger story than anything. As you
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: build your team, you have to have a whatever your
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: system is gonna be, and you have to have a
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: conviction like this is who we're gonna build be, and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna build a team based on that skill set.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: You know, if you had to say right now, though,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you'd say C. J. Henderson has a chance to be
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: a difference maker, but you haven't seen that from Chase
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: On at all. Zero fair. Yeah, that's right, that's right.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: And so at the end of the days, you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: you and I joke about all the time, it's about
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Jimmy's and Joe's, not an excess and os. And really,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: when you get it right, it's about Jimmy's and Joe's
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: that fit the xs and o's that the coaches trying
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to call. And how often do we see in this
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: in the in this league where you have a coaching
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: staff that wants to do X, Y and Z whatever
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: their scheme is, but they don't have the players that
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: match what they're trying to accomplish. And that's the other
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: problem you have, and you go to the Packers, and
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Packers are one of the better teams in the league.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Go to their playmakers. You have Adams, you have Aaron Jones,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: you have Rogers. Clearly you have on defense Alexander. Alexander
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Corner they can run. Is a difference maker because he
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: allows you to go one on one with the better
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: defensive end and you can you can slide away, you
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: can do different things. So there's you have to have
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: guys who are top in and it really comes down
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: to we're football is the ultimate team sport. It also
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: comes down of the one on one matchups. And I've
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: told this story before it and Tommy used to do
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: it the night before a game a lot of times
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: and he would start going through it's, you know, the
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: one on one matchups. It's you know, Jimmy Smith versus
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Ty Law and Ricardo against you know, you know whoever
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: and Selling against Smith and like literally go down. And
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the point was this, but yes, it's a team game,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: but you have to have dudes who could win one
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: on one. When it's all said and done, we aren't
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: getna lie. We're gonna line up and can your left
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: tackle Boxton right defensive end one on one, not trying
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: to scheme everything and change everything just to get it done.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: You might have to do that in certain situations, but
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: you can't do it for everybody. At some point, you
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: have to have guys on your roster you can win
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and get it done when it matters, and you need
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: more guys on this team that can win one on one.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Bet a just we're better. You mentioned it from a
• 43:53
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• 43:55
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• 43:56
  Speaker 1: It helps you if you have if your word is
• 43:58
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• 44:00
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• 44:02
  Speaker 1: roll your coverage the other way. It all works hand
• 44:05
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• 44:07
  Speaker 1: win consistently in their one on one battles. And right now,
• 44:09
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• 44:13
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  Speaker 1: what's gonna be. Mike Glennon. They still feel gives them
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  Speaker 1: the best chance to go win a football game. I
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  Speaker 1: think the ship has sailed on Gardner Minshew, he was benched.
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  Speaker 1: He could talk all you want about the thumb injury.
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  Speaker 1: He was benched. They don't want to play it. They
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  Speaker 1: I will be astounded if Gardner mins who plays another
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  Speaker 1: starts another game for the Jaguars. Astounded barring an injury.
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  Speaker 1: You guys agree with me. We already was injured once. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: or the thumb right, Remember he's saying, what's did it happened?
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  Speaker 1: But Pete, your point is that outside an injury to
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  Speaker 1: and wondering about the whole injured thumb story to begin with.
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  Speaker 1: But I never believed it. I mean, maybe maybe his
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  Speaker 1: and and and you guys have heard the same thing too,
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  Speaker 1: so I know you know that. Um. And if that's
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  Speaker 1: It's just who do I think this is a week
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  Speaker 1: to week I really do. I don't think. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Doug has a real salt, you know, solidified on
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  Speaker 1: any guy at that quarterback position right now. And I
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  Speaker 1: think he I do believe he thinks that glenn gives
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  Speaker 1: the best chance right now. I do think the organization,
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  Speaker 1: at least from a coaching staff, has soured on Gardner
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  Speaker 1: Minshew for whatever reason. Um, and so he's not good.
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  Speaker 1: That's the reason enough to sour on him. So are
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  Speaker 1: you saying that if you had to pick a backup
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  Speaker 1: right now to the three, who would you pick? Probably none?
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  Speaker 1: Probably what you're saying talking about next year? If you
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  Speaker 1: had to pick a backup for next year out of
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: those three, which one would you pick? I'd probably take
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Gluten the camp and I might get a veteran quarterback,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: and then the other two will be gone probably in
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you could find a better backup, but
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: you know that it's easier said than done. I mean,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: if would you like to have Andy Dalton shore, but
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna pay him to be the backup when
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: you have a young I don't think. So we're what
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: kind of backup you're talking about? Could Mike Glennon be
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: a good, serviceable backup Tony Um. Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you have a young first
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: of all, Pete. Also, what kind of system are you
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  Speaker 1: gonna run? I mean, if you I mean, if you're
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: like I'll give you a for example, if you're gonna
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: run something like Shanahan or Kubiak run where you're doing
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: a bunch of boots and moving the pocket. Is Glennon
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: the best guy for that? Probably not No, So then
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't. You might want to go to Maybe
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Gardner would better in that case because he can move
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: around and do things. You're gonna find someone else. But
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: whoever it is because you're getting the young quarterback you
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: want to. I believe you want a veteran who understands
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  Speaker 1: get better. It's not to take his job. It's not
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  Speaker 1: to compete with him. It's trying to help him get
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  Speaker 1: better and be ready if he can't if something happens
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  Speaker 1: to him. By the way, in the history of the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars history, have you ever seen a player, or mania
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  Speaker 1: or passion or craziness about a player fall off so fast? Ever? Anybody?
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  Speaker 1: Can you think about it? So you think about the
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  Speaker 1: history of this team. Anybody that was way up here
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  Speaker 1: in the eyes of the fan base who went way
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: down here, that's a tough one. That's a tough one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that that was a fast rise and the
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  Speaker 1: mania and and kudos to the kid because he basked
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  Speaker 1: in it all. But it is the kid has come
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  Speaker 1: crashing down. I do think it's one of the issues
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  Speaker 1: that we have, and maybe it's across the NFL, but
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: because of the way that social media, the media operates
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: and fans, we anoint people way too quickly. I mean
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: way too quickly. That I mean, you just can't do it,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: and also bury people too quickly. To Tony true, I
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. Let's talk about the anointing
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: because and I think you do a disservice to the
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: individual when you anoint them that quickly. Like let them
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: just like go through, like just go through, like let's
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: find out what you are and let's like try to
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: limit the distraction and limit all the noise for a
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: young player and let them learn to be a pro
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: and let them earn the right or the moniker as
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: a top player. Um, and that just doesn't happen. Um.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's because social media. I mean, who knows, maybe
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: it's maybe it doesn't happen other places. You know better
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  Speaker 1: Pete than I do. Um, And yes, we do bury
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: people way too quickly too. You brought up a guy
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  Speaker 1: you know earlier in the show They in Pittsburgh. They
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  Speaker 1: had buried him right, And the last two years he's
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: been really good rushing the pastor yeah, And some positions
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: take longer than others, you know. I give you an example.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: The way the game is played nowadays, you're usually gonna
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: see production out of a rookie receiver right away. Usually
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: would you agree, ricky receiver? Um? Nowadays? Yes, Remember in
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: the old days you wouldn't take yeah, But nowadays it's different.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Nowadays you'd say yes. But pass rushers can take a
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  Speaker 1: little time. That's why when we when we talk about
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Chase on it might take him a little time. Uh,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: certain guys take a little time. By the way, I
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: don't worry about the offense. I thought the line played
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  Speaker 1: pretty good other than the left tackle. Get off the TV. Now,
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  Speaker 1: went into the game. We like our matchup. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're worried about to cut back run, you know, with
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: with Cook, we were worried about. You know, he's the
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  Speaker 1: type of player that could take in a pot on
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  Speaker 1: linebackers came downhill. I thought that guy's up front, uh,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: you know, played with good leverage. I think that you know,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: they were penetrating. They were obviously doing a very good
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: job on um, you know, on the quarterback, you know,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: affecting him, moving him, you know, off the spot, um,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: you know, getting hands up. You know. I thought, you know,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: it's unfortunately I thought we could have had a couple
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: of more tips or tip balls in that. But um,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: you know, the effort that they played was you know,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: that's the way they've been playing all year. I just
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: think that, you know, the matchup was good. They were
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: ready to go. Um, you know, they were excited to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: get up there, and you know they did some really
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: good things welcome in second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: That's head coach Doug Moron after the game yesterday, discussing
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: the defensive line play against the Vikings in a twenty
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: seven twenty four overtime loss for the Jags. It's number
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: eleven in a row. Mike Glenner on the offensive side
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: turned it over a bunch four turnovers for the day,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: and the safety as well. In the game. The Jags defense,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: as you heard, they're fought, but Cousins Jefferson and Cooke
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: did just enough for the Vikings and they took advantage
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: of those takeaways. And now coming up this week, the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are back home in the division to face the
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: first place Tennessee Titans, and we'll see you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was as Doug Broon said, there, guys, and we talked
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: about it in the first hour, Tony, you especially, you
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: went into the game talking about that matchup up front.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: It was a good matchup and and Doug knew that
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: as well, and it showed a little bit of the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: game yesterday. Yeah, just remind, just remind Logs on Thursday
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: because he pooh pooed my assessment on our pregame show.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Consider it, considerate. Don let's bring that up because and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: I agree, do I talk the front seven did a
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  Speaker 1: good job. They won the battle, and they controlled the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage that pushed the pocket, and they cousin
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: I'm comfortable at times that all the things he said,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I agree with the hundred per cent. Now, with that said,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: the test becomes even harder this week because now you
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: have a physical team coming in and the worst thing
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: that could possibly happen was Rounds blowing out the Titans
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: and the Colts winning because now they're tied for first
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: and it's like any I don't think they had overlooked
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars anyways, because the game was pretty close up
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: in Nashville and is a division opponent. But now, I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: mean rabel is going to have their attention and it's
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be you know, um, I think a very detailed
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: week for the Tennessee Titans, knowing where they sit in
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: the playoff hunt to win the division. And uh, you know,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry didn't get a bunch of carries last week.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: They did not have a good week at all. And boy,
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  Speaker 1: I it's it's it's I guess it's a dangerous game.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Because I think that Tennessee is gonna come in very
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: motive motivated and very focused. Just attack Breon Borders. You
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: get a lot of big plays against them. And you
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: guys remember him in Jacksonville, right he was He was
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: torched on Sunday. Oh my gosh, I had a rough
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: go of it. They're bad on defense. They can't rush
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: the passer at all. Zero And now you know Clowney
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: didn't get any sacks all year anyways, but he's gone
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: for the year. It's a bad team. And you know,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I want to get back to the Vikings game real quick, Tony.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I mentioned before the break about the offensive line. Am
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I wrong with? Watching the TV table by Cam Robinson
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: had some struggles, um, paid I haven't up into the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: All twenty two yet, but it made the comment after
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: the game, and I made it this morning. Um. Just
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: the inconsistency. I mean, when you like when it matters
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: the most, just not getting it done. I thought they're
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: soft edges again. I thought John Taylor had a couple
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: as well, Um, and that was not a good defensive front.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: They were facing the Vikings. That's not a group that
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: rushes the pastor very well at all. And so yeah,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just the last three or four weeks,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think the consistency has been there with Cam
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: or juwan Um either tackle, which is frustrating because I
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: think they both have the ability to do it. That's
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be a tough decision for whoever is running that
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: team on him, it really is. I know you don't
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: want to leave a vacancy at left tackle, but boy,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: oh boy, if that money gets a little high, I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: don't know how you sit there and you say I'm
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: just gonna pay him to get that production. I mean
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: it was I don't know. It's a tough decision to make.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: And if this is the ceiling in a contract year,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: then you got even more problems, right, And Bucky Brooks
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday on Happy Hour said that it's a relatively
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: deep tackle class and so maybe you go draft a guy.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: You'd have to draft him with that second first round pick,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: which means you're not drafting defense. But you could spend
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: money on defense. I think there's guys you can There's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: nobody in free agency at left tack where you should
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: spend money on. Nobody, So you might be able to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: spend that money on defense, and then come back and
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: try and draft a left tackle, but Tony would know
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: better than anybody. How hard is it for a rookie
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: left tackle to step in and play. I'll be honest
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: with you. Andrew Thomas and the Giants struggled earlier in
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: the year, he started to play really well. You know,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Beckton has been really good. Wills. You saw Wills last week. Tony,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: he's a good, solid player. And who was the fourth
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: one that was drafted in the first round but Tampa. Yeah,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: and he's been really good. And so how hard is
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: it for a rookie left tackle to step in and play?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: If you have a rookie quarterback, is that tough? It
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: depends how good the rookie left tackle is. They're picking
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: H twenty. It just depends. I mean, some guys can
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: step in and get it time. I mean, look at
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: um Oh gosh, what was the kids the kid into
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: the right tackle up in uh now or Legans a
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: kid for Wisconsin that got drafted late in the first
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: round and it was a Day one starter and did
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: a good job. So I mean, it just depends on
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: who the guy is. And I mean that's what the evaluation.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: And I have not looked with the draft in depth
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: this year and where you know you know who's good
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: and who's not and what what kind of depth do
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: you have an offensive tackle. It's not just depth at
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: one position, it's also if you have a lack of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: depth at other positions, then you start getting runs on
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: the positions that are deeps sometimes. So, Um, you have
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: to look at the whole thing. I agree with you.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's an easy decision. Um, I'm interested
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: to see what would I wonder what Cam Robinson would
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: get if he goes into the open market, because there's
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: not a lot of free agents out there that can
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: play left tackle. What is it he's going to get overpaid? Yeah,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I think you might be right. That's the nature of
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: the Beasts. Yeah. Yeah, that's what happens in free agency
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: typically seventeen a year. I mean, he's he's played to
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: that this year, but he's been awful before this year. Yeah,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: this is the first year. Like, and I haven't watched
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: many games this year, but in the past I was like,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: he has no rear end and gets pushed back and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: it's not physical, and I just did not see it.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: I never saw coming out of college at the University
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: of Utah for a first rounder. But I've heard, I've
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: not seen it that he's played better this year. And
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I think what they basically John I always said, is
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: like listen, you know we know him. He's playing consistent,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: He's gotten better under mun Check is a really good
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: offensive line coach the last couple of years. And at
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars a year, and if you look at
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: the cap numbers, Peter don't know, if you looked at it,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: pretty favorable to the team the first couple of years
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: to probably give you some flexibility if it doesn't work out.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not I mean good guaranteed money, but not off
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: the charts. So the bottom line is the CAP's going up.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: If it goes up again this year, premium positions are
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: gonna get paid, and left tackles the premium position. There's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: just not a lot of people can do it at
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: a high level. So you know what's interesting, week I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: give you credit for this because you talk about it
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: all the line, about all the time about being strong
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: on the offensive defensive lines. When you look around the
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: league at the best teams go through their offensive lines,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: and in Kansas City, when when Mitchell Schwartz is there
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: has two pretty good tackles and the line is good enough,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: but he helps compensate for that. But for the most part,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: the Saints have a really good offensive line. The Browns
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: have a good offensive line. The Steelers line hasn't played
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: up to a put on paper. It should be better
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: than what it is. Well, and they're they're gonna pass
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: fucking not good run blockers right now, right and and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: so go around. I mean, you go around the league.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: The good teams, Packers, good offensive line. I mean, the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: good teams have good offensive lines. You gotta you gotta
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: be able to have those guys up there where you
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: can sit back there and do whatever you want when
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: you want to and be I'm I don't want to
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: oversimplify this, but I have a firm believer after the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: quarterback this this is a big man's game, and big
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: men win football games for you. And that means it's
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: a pretty simple game at the end of it. If
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: you can block and you can tackle, you're gonna be successful. Now,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: you need speed on the back half. Um, you need
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: explosive players at your skill set. There's no doubt about that.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to diminish those guys. But there's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: more of those guys out there in the world. There
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: just is. There's only so many big athletic men on
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: the planet Earth. They're not easy to find, and so
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: when you find them, you gotta keep them. You have
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: to develop them, you gotta pay them. And so I mean,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: to me, it's about controlling the line of scrimmage. It's
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: protecting the quarterback. It's affecting the quarterback. It's running the ball,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: it's stopping the run. I mean, that's what you have
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: to be able to do if you want to win consistently,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: assuming you have the quarterback, let's say. I mean, that's
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: why I'll tell you I worry about the Steelers in
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. I don't think they can run the ball.
• 1:09:14
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  Speaker 1: sure it's happening to history that can't run the ball
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  Speaker 1: able to do something that Tennessee didn't do yesterday. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think when your game plan, it's away from you
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  Speaker 1: worry about the Steelers this year in the playoffs because
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  Speaker 1: they can't run the ball effectively. They just have it
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  Speaker 1: all year. Go look at their numbers, it's there, their attrocans. Right,
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  Speaker 1: you have to be able to run the ball when
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  Speaker 1: you need to run the ball, right, doesn't have to
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  Speaker 1: be the top rank rushing offensive the league. When you
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: need to run the ball, and the way you do
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  Speaker 1: that is with an offensive line. Agreed, And so I
• 1:10:36
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  Speaker 1: don't and don't let him go easy, don't let him go. Yeah,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: keep them around, keep them around. Easier said than done
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Wasselli the day after an overtime loss, the eleventh
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: straight loss for the Jacksonville Jaguars, And this is the
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: time of the show each week where we dig into
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: the mail bag. Actually we go to social media. It's
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: not really a mail bag. You were replied to a tweet.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: We put the bat signal out early, and we take
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: the best question. Are the best answers? Let's just get
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: to the stupid first question. Best question? Yeah, yeah, let's
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: just get to it. Number one at sick what a
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: is Chart a number one receiver or do we need
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: to get one along with the quarterback next year? Yeah?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: What how about chart yesterday? His totals in yesterday's game.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Let's see seven targets, two catches, forty one yards. You're
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: not a good target to catch ratio, that's for sure. Um, Like,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: first of all, we throw these terms around guys, like
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: is he a number one receiver, Like, okay, what is
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: somebody like? Yeah? Like, like, are you talking? Is he
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: like Julio Jones or Dvante Adams or one of those guys? No?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Could he be? I? I don't know. Is he a
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: guy who can win? I think he can win outside
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: I think if you, I think he is a starter
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. I mean, go around the league and
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: tell me, like, you know what, here here's a perfect example.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: We have a team that's tenan oh, right now it's
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: gonna be I was just gonna say, where's their number
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: one receiver? Where's the number one receiver? There? There isn't one?
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: They got three pretty good ones and not a number one.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: I'm at last, you're the super Bowl runner up? The stass?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Where's their number? Who was their number one receiver last year?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Manuel Sanders? And he was just average at that? Is
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: he at number one? Like? Is he? Like? Could DJ
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Chark be that? Yes? Yeah? Um, now are there the
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: number one? Michael Thomas yes, Julio Jones yes, Davante Adams yes, absolutely?
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: The Andre Hopkins was is he anymore? That's a legitimate
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: question after James down yesterday? Maybe not? Okay? How about
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: the rams they have bona fide number one thet they
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: got two really good ones, Yeah, two really good players.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Are they like? Would they say, hey, we're gonna design
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: just like he could line up and just take over
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: a game type of guy. D Metcalf is a number one.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: He's turning into one, that's for sure. So I think
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: it's the wrong question, not that I understand the question
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: from the individual. I'm not saying it's a bad question.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: It's not the question. I'd be asking can dj B
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: a part of a winning offense? Can he be? Can
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: he be a starting X receiver, the outside receiver on
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: the single side uh in a system? And I say yes,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: I do believe he can be the other part. Would
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: you go get one next year anyway? No, you have
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: so many other needs. I think when you look at
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: their group, if Colin Johnson gets a little more seasoning,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: whether it's from Keenan or whoever, because I think if
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: if I was a coach hiring Jackson, I'd consider keeping Keenan.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: I think Keenan is a good receiver's coach, But you know,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: a year of learning how to run routes better. I
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: think Colin Johnson has some impressive physical stuff Channault is
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: a physical player, and you have Chark. I mean, that's
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: a good group. It's not like you said, Tony, it's
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: not look at the Steelers. That group has the potential
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: to be a good group like that. Not a great group,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: but a good group. So Pete, would you go get
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: a guy like ju Jus M. Schuster who's gonna be
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: a free agent probably get ten billion bucks here? No?
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: Hell no. In fact, he just dropped a pass on
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: third and Ted I would not. I would. I mean
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: the one thing I would consider if you could find
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: a true deep threat, you know, and and Shark has
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: some of that. But you know what I'm talking about,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: the the Tyreek kill take the top Henry Ruggs. You
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: saw what he did yesterday, the guy that could just
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: scare the daylights at he with his deep speed Chark
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: and run he flew at the combine. Yeah, but you
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: know what, you know what I'm talking about. Though, There's okay,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Shark can fly, but he doesn't run like Tyreek Hill does.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Even if he does, but even if find Tyreek Hill, Wow,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about there? You know exactly.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think receiver is the priority
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to try to find it. No, they
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: need a tight end though, right for right he laid out,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: I mean really good catch al right, next question from
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: the same person, in fact, sick with Tavan had sixteen
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: reps yesterday. Is his time in Jacksonville over? Yes? I mean,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: I mean bring him. I mean he's under contract next year, guaranteed,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: he's the first rounder. So bringing back to camp this
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: is what three for him year? Yeah? So you almost yeah?
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Bringing I mean seeming an earnest spot. I mean maybe
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: if he has a good preseason you can trade him
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: for something. I mean, I don't know, but yeah, I mean,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: is his time over? I'm not counting on I wouldn't
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: be counting on him to be a starter. But he's
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: under contract. You're gonna bring it back to camp? I mean,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: what is it? What do you get for him in
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Turkey sandwich, ham sandwich, roast beef sandwich on Ryan, I
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: mean not a lot. Probably, I'm gonna look up his
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: contract and see what what what you can get out
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: of its mistake in the first round. They're all guaranteed. Yeah, right,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: but it's seven dollars, isn't No, what would it be
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: you'd be uh yeah, seven is guaranteed salary next year
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: is seven thousand dollars. So you've already eating You've already
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: eaten up the guaranteed money you gave him. The bonus
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: you save, I think you're saving, yeah, about a million bucks.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: I think if you get rid of them, don't get
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: rid of them. So there you go. There's the answer.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: Our next question from at Riley Kendrick. This is the
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: most confusing season ever. I am both actively cheering for
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: them to win and lose. I really hope the right
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: GM is hired to make this season quote unquote worth it.
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  Speaker 1: Your weekly show is the only Jags thing I look
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: forward to. Keep it up. Boys, I don't see a
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: question there, but I like the comment thank you and
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: yesterday And yesterday was a good day for a guy
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: like that. They played competitively, they went to overtime, they
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: got the two point conversion, you had a little excitement,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: and they still lost. That's that's the win. That's a
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: win win, that's the for a guy who's agonizing like that,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: that's the greatest scenario of them all. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, but it's no fun being a fan like that,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, but it's no fun. It's also
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: no fun. Okay, I'm gonna give you an example. Arizona states,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: oh and two, they stink they're playing exhibition games. I
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: don't care. Why would I mean, it's all about next year.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: Why would you care about this year? It's over with. No,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: I get no, that's a fair part. I agree that
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: it's all about next year the fans. But if you're
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: a fan who's been doing this for the better part
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: of a decade plus outside of one year, they went
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs in seventeen, correct, yes, and before that
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: was eight nine, the last time they Okay, so since
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, which is thirteen seasons they've been
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: to the playoff one time, there's a fan you're exhausted,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: and I get that, And so what he's saying there's like,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be thinking about next year every year,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: and so, um, your points right, But it's not fun, No,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, if you're a fan, it's agonizing,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: and that's why you want to be so excited about
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: next year. You want to that's why you would love
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: to have seen the Jets win, because then there's the optimism.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: It's the same as the teams that have the quarterback solved.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: You have excitement for next year. Our next question at
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Bootlegged Human. Has the defense been playing better since the buye?
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: If so, how much better? Or am I just a
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: hopeless Jags fan looking for a light at the end
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: of the tunnel? Yeah, I mean I think you look
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: at I think we've been playing better. Um, I think
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Todd Wash continues to throw everything in the kitchen sink
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: at the teams change. Who looks up? You know, create
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: a blitzer is blitzing more than he probably would like to,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: overloading size, overloading different sides of in third down. I mean,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: I think he's getting really, really, really creative. And I
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: think the guys are playing better at the same time
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: against the run, so I do think they're getting better.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what light at the end of the
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: tunnel the Bootlegged Human is looking for, but they are
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: playing better well in this branchise is history. Light at
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: the end of the end of the tunnel means the
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: trains coming to run. You're over thanks? Yeah? Wow. Next
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: question at Eric Harrison asking how much tailoring scheme to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: players does a GM do when making a coaching higher
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: For example, say the new GM desize our defensive talent
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: would best for the three four. How hard does he
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: press head coaching candidates on whether they employ a three
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: four or if they'd hire a coordinator who would no,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I think the first thing you do
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: is when you're iron coach, you gotta go find the
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: right leader, the right guy who can lead the organization
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: with what happens on the football field, and who is
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: going to bring in the right staff. And I would
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: say the most important thing, and the higher this time,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: is either getting a head coach who has developed young
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks or is a head coach who has a plan
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball with it bringing
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: his coordinator in, who's going to train a young quarterback?
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: That's the most important. Whether it's a three four four, three,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. I mean, Um, the head coach who
• 1:25:29
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• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: to make sure it's aligned. But then it's the job
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: of that GM to make sure you go find players
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: that fit the scheme of the coach you hire. This
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: is not and this is I say it all the time,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: this isn't fantasy football. It's just not a you know
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  Speaker 1: hodgepods of grag bag. Let's just go get a bunch
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: of big name guys and you know this this Joe
• 1:25:50
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  Speaker 1: to what your your your scheme is, what are you
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: trying to accomplish? Like so, if it's back in the
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: days of you know, Tony Dungee and their Tampa two, Well,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: you want physical outside corners you can play and run support.
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  Speaker 1: If it's you know this Seattle Gus Bradley type of thing,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: you need long corners who can run because you're it
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: cover three team, whatever it is. I mean, every team
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: has a scheme. If you're you know my Kyle Shanahan
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: and it's or Gary Kubiak and you're an inside outside
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: zone boot uh concept with the quarterback who's gonna move?
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  Speaker 1: You better have a mobile quarterback who can move a
• 1:26:28
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• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Were athletic or on the more athletic side, um and so,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: And there's different schemes and different philosophies and whatever they are,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: you can, by the way, you can win with them all.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Always love like hey, because some team won with the
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: three or four. Let's go be a three four team.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Well guess what next year of four three is gonna win?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: And hey, let's go be a spread, you know type
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: of team because they just want to super Bowl. Well,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: guess what next week here, it's gonna be some you know,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: run heavy team that's gonna win the super Bowl. All
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: these schemes were It's about getting the right players that
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: fit the scheme and the convictions your head coach has.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: That's how you build it um and that's a bit critical.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: But for this team, the most important the higher of
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: that coach. He has to have a plan of how
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: he's to develop that young quarterback. That is the most
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: important thing. Right, Well, if you're hiring Matt Rule to
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: be your head coach, go get Joe Brady to develop
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: your offense. That that that's if you hire a defensive coach,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: you gotta find out who he's gonna hire and you fit.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: You know, Look, let the coach take his players and
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: build his thing the way he wants to build it.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: And so if you get a four three coach and
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: he comes in here, what do you do with Chason?
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: That's up to the coach. He's gonna have to figure
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: out a way to get him on the field and
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: play him on the field if he doesn't fit as
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: a down defensive end. It did sound a little bit
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: like a campaign speech there, Pete Tony, Oh, that's a kid.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: It's not a campaign speech. Were gone, we're gonna get
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: buttons made. That's that's not fair for you say that.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: I gotta asked the question. Anything I said. You disagree
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: with what I said, No, you're accurate, But it was no. No,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: it was a great answer from a media member. It
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: was a great answer. But as a campaign speech it
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: would work. There you go, that's my point exactly, but
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: according to you, the media, media member, So that was
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: just a media It was a great It was a
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: great answer, but it can also be construed by a
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: lot of people out there as a campaign speech. Don't
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: construe it as anything but my beliefs of what now,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: I answered the question, but silly bokay, no, don't do that.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: It's not funny. First of all, if I was kind
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: of the question first, how would you have answered it
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: the exact same way? I agree with our next question?
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: Shut up next question, and you look, we're gonna use
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna use an example to the offensive linemen are
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: different than other teams offensive lineman. It's like the old
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: Broncos lineman. They were different. They didn't want they wanted
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: an athletic guys who can move, guys who can get
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: out and pull and play on the back side and
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: all that. It's different. You want, you want to cater
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: your guys to what you need, but you also can't
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: just say, Okay, this is my my system. We hired
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: this guy to be the head coach. Now let's draft
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: based on what you know, based on on what we have.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: I think everybody wants their own guys, but sometimes you
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: inherit guys and you have to try and make it
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: work a little bit as well. Absolutely, I mean that's
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: what I mean. The best coaches, Peter Good teachers. Justine Smith.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Remember Justin Smith was played for the forty niners. He
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: assumed the new role with them, but he was great
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: that He was a defensive end in Cincinnati. First round
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: pick was just okay, and it's a four three defensive end.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: He goes to there are three four team. He bulks up,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: gets bigger and stronger because they changed his all to
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: a three or four defensive end, which, by the way,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: hit him better. And then on third down he rushed
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: from a three technique. I mean he was, I mean
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: a really good player. Yeah, and it worked because you
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: took Kim and fit him and and and and found
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: the spot form in your defense. That's right. Our next
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: question at Paul w Aldrich. If the Jags draft a
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: quarterback early in the first round and we keep three,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: which two of the current guys would you keep? I
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: wouldn't keep any of them. I might keep Looting just
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: to bring him into camp and see what he can do.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not I probably wouldn't if I can find. Now,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: you got to find another backup. It's like Tony always says,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: you gotta find a replacement to find somebody. But I
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: would try and find a veteran backup, bring him in
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: and bring Loot in the camp. That's what I would do.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: I think it depends a little bit what kind of
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: system er scheme you want to run. I don't know
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Mike Glennon well enough to make a a judgment on it,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: but you want to agree with Pete. You want a
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: veteran who understands his role, and his role is to
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: help the young guy learn how to play the position
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: and be a pro. So which is which Tony? Which
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: is why it can't be Gardner? Men's you? Yeah, I
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: think it'd be really difficult because of what has happened
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: over the last couple of months with Gardner for that
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: h to assume that role. And by the way, he's
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: not a veteran. He doesn't know, he doesn't know what
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know, so you know that Vetrian guy. Right.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: Our final question from at newly Bill, seventy eight played
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: a lot yesterday? Can you evaluate his performance? Also? Do
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: you think we resigned seventy four this offseason? Seventy eight
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: has been BArch seventy four is Cam Robinson. Let's start
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: with BArch Um again. I didn't study the tape fully
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: um yet today, so uh the quick look at it
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: calling the game, I thought it was fine. Um. I'll
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: tell you from what I've seen so far this year,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: he has a lot of work to do, especially in
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: the past pro Um. He needs know, he needs to
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: get better, He needs off season to get stronger, he
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: needs an offseason, um of camp and preseason to get
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: reps um A lot to ask for a Division three
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: football player come in with no preseason, limited off season
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: and to try to go and play at this level.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: So um, he's a project. Um. I think they probably
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: brought him in with the hopes that he could be
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: the starter next year for at one of the guard positions.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: From what I've seen so far, there's four more games.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have the confidence to say, hey, he's the
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: guy we can get rid of the well as far
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: as we talked about it, that's Cam Robinson. Um, that's
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be a money decision. What's it gonna cost to
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: keep him? Um? And can you upgrade that position? If you?
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: If you, if you're not, if you're not willing to
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: pay the price tag that he wants. You know what, Tony,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: I went back and watched Bart's tape last week against
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: the Browns, and there is a lot of initial pop
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: and not a finish because he gets straight. Yeah, there's
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: just left been there. Yeah that that's Can that be
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: fixed with an off season of coaching and reps. Yeah.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Because I've seen him earlier in the year, I thought
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: he had more power in the run game. I was
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: pretty impressed with it. Um. My issues in the past
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: game or anything is is he just does not look comfortable.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: He leans um and so they beat him with you know,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: a speed move or on the edge move, and then
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: when he doesn't, he gets too high and he gets
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: run over. And so he has a lot of work
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: to do. Um, he's got a lot of work to do.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he can't do it. I mean
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: he's a younger Division three football player last year. Um,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: he's a big human being. So I mean he's court
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: excuse me, he's worth an off season getting in the
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: weight room and spend time with him and coaching him
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: up well if he's if he's one of the positions,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: if he's starting, I think it will be left card
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: because I think A J. Cans actually played pretty well
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: this year. And if you have no but he makes
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of money, it doesn't matter. You have no
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: camp issues next year, Pete, think about this way. If
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: you have a young quarterback, let's just say it's justin
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: fields just because that's the where you sit right now.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: Who knows who it ends up being. If you have
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: justin fields back there, do you want to take a
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: chance with because you want to save a few million
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: bucks with a developing left guard, or do you want
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: to put a guy in there who's been all Pro
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: who's playing good. By the way, if you look at
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: his grades and his numbers and have him there at
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: left guard and you have no cap issues, it's not
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: gonna affect you one bit and anything you do at all,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna help your young quarterback be comfortable and developed.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to have a firm procket. That's
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: why right now, I mean, listen, I my guess is Norwell,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: Linder and Can are all back because you can solidify
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: that front of the offensive line in front of a
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: young quarterback. I think that's really something to think about
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: and it's important. Yeah. No, look, I get the middle.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna keep okay, if you're not gonna keep
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: your left tackle, or you certainly should keep Norwell because
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: you'd like to have if you're gonna have a young
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: left tackle, or you'd like to have a veteran left guard.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: I get it. There, you have a because like if
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: there was cap issues, Pete, I get what you're saying,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: then you really have to look at the oil. But
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: you have no cap issues, No no, but you also
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: need to spend a bunch of that. You also wouldn't
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: mind spending some cap room on the other side of
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: the ball either absolutely, and if it became if you
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: run into cap issues, then you have to look at
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: everything but today and if the cap goes up, you
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: probably couldn't wisely spend it all anyways next year, No
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: you couldn't. I mean, what do they have, right? I mean,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna look. So if it goes up another
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: twenty you're gonna have a hundred five million dollars. You
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: can't really spend that. Not if you have a cheap quarterback,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: which is what the first round quarterback will be for
• 1:35:42
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• 1:35:45
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  Speaker 1: It's a tough choice. And I think, um, if you
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  Speaker 1: But Deshaun Watson is a proven commodity and you know
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: you can play. But that's a team with not no
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: draft capital in a slow old defense. I mean they
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: got some issues on that side of the ball. So, um,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a tough question. It's a great debate.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: But also this Tony, they've had Deshaun Watson, and but
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: have you ever seen them as a legitimate Super Bowl contender? No?
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: But have they been good on defense since Deshaun Watson
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: has been there? Well, they've been banned on the offensive line,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: but they've ever been on defense? Because remember, Deshaun Watson
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: wasn't there during the Hey days when they had j J.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: Watt and his prime and Whitney Merciless and Cushing in
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: the back half, the Coigners, Johnson Joseph and that I
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: mean that he wasn't there for that he came in
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: and the years he was there, j J was hurt always.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, they they've been in a g defense and
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: they declined defense for a while. Um So no, I
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: don't think they've been a super Bowl threat because I don't.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: And they've had a terrible offensive line. So I go
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: back to what I said beginning show, it's about offensive
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: get the quarterback you have that they have not been
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: able to fix the offensive line under Bill Brian. They
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: didn't draft right. They got Toms Old, they paid a
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: ton of money in draft capital. They drafted the Howard
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Sharpen to play guard. Those guys their their premium draft picks.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: They should be good on the offensive line, but they well,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: they're either not being coached or they missed right. One
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: of the two. I don't know. I don't even know
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: who the offense line coach here is there, so I
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: won't be critical, but it's one two either missed on him,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: were not being coached. But also I mean, yeah, and
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: and you know, we were asking about Jawan taylor regression
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: this year, that that he looked like a hit last year.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: He doesn't look like so much of a hit this year. Sure,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: he's been inconsistent. Browns over the Titans yesterday, big day
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield. The Titans got too late touchdowns but
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: fell short and Henry was limited because they were down
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: so big so early. He only had sixty yards. And
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: that was a blowout. Yeah, that was terrible. They they
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: dominated them from the word yet go they just from
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: everything they did. They ran it, they threw it, they
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: did whatever they want. They made Baker Mayfield looked good.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: And by the way, I didn't think you looked good
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: last week against Jackson, but I thought he was he
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: was off, he was inaccurate and and you know even
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: on his passage he completely looked okay. But he was
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: good on Sunday against the Titans. And when you take
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: the Titans out of who they are, see, that's the
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: problem with the Titans, which is why they're not a
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: real threat this year. They want to run it, control
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: the clock, hit those big shots off of the run game.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: But to do that you have to have some sort
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: of defense, and they're terrible on defense. They came back
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: and made a seven point game. Basically they were six
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: point game. Did they have a chance to get the
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: on side? Yeah, they would. If they got the onside kicked,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: they would have had a chance. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: I mean they were getting blown out seven. Well, the
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: Browns aren't good on defense either. No, So yeah, that
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: that one shocked me. I thought that. I thought the
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: I thought the Titans will be able to run the
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: ball better, and that it wasn't just that the game
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: got away from them. I mean, you look at the
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: numbers early, it's like ten for like twenty seven for
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: uh Henry, he never got it going early. I'm gonna
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: agree with you on Tony. I thought they would be
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: able to run the ball too. I thought both teams
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: would run the ball and it would be a low
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: scoring game and it will be over in two minutes,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: two hours and thirty minutes. It wasn't that, alright. So
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: we we know positions three and four in the power
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: rankings in the n f C South, But how about
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: one and two for you guys. Um, I tried to
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: put the Colts at one just because the defense is
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: more reliable. Um, I think it's close. I mean, obviously
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: they split the series, but if I down the stretch
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I'm just I'm gonna bet on the
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: defense of the Colts. The Titans can't get off the field.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: We literally cannot get off the field. I think. I
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: think they're fIF their last in the league. And third down,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think it'd be harder than the
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: winning its good teams. Yeah, and you know the Colts
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: played him without Buckner in Autry and okay Rey or
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: the linebacker that those guys, those guys, you know Buckner
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: was at forced yesterday. There's a big difference on that defense.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: When those guys, Yeah, I likes, yes, absolutely, all right.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: Do you have the Jaguars third? I got the Colt
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: one two. The actual standings Tennessee one at eight and four.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: They split the head to head series this year with Indie,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: but Tennessee has the better division record. That's why they're
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: in first place currently, Houston Jacksonville at the bottom. Let's
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: come back. We'll go to the not so powerful draft
• 1:46:27
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• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: can you imagine looking at these standings that let's say
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: they they both went out, Titans and Colts both went out,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: and that the difference from the Colts winning the division
• 1:46:41
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• 1:46:45
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy r J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Basselli. We're coming down the home stretch and let's
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  Speaker 1: take a look at the not so powerful draft order
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: as it stands today, we'll start with what would be
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars second pick in the first round. The Rams
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  Speaker 1: are would be twenty six today eight and four. That
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: would be the division round losers. So it can move
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: obviously depending on how the Rams finished, but right now,
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  Speaker 1: as of today, it's then we go. We start at
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: number eleven. Those are teams at four and seven, the
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: Bronco eleven, Washington at ten at four and seven, the
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: Texans at nine, The Dolphins get that picked the four
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: and eight, the Falcons would I would pick eight, the
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: Panthers seventh, the Eagles six, the Cowboys fifth, the Chargers fourth,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: the Bengals third at two nine and one, the Jaguars
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: second at one and eleven with a five fifty uh
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: strength of schedule, and the New York Jets at oh
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: and twelve with a five nine strength of schedule. And that,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: as we said earlier, it was pretty darn painful yesterday
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: the way it ended. Oh, we lost Pete. We lost Pete.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: We don't know where where where. We lost Tony as well. There, hey,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: there we are wear each other. We lost you. I
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: lost well, we collectively lost you because we were on
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: That's okay anyway, it was painful yesterday. That was that one.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: I bet there were a lot of Jaguar fans that
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: were sitting there watching that just agonizing scene in this radio.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: Actually texted Basel before I didn't let me ask you
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: the question and listen, I just think it's the least
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: of our worries right now. Let's just keep on the
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: same playout because who knows what happens, And I do
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: think the Jags will win their game, Pete doesn't. I
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: think I think the Jets have a chance to win
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: maybe one of the last two. Um, who knows what happened.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: But did you get the feeling though, Yeah, if the
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Jets would have won, the Jags would have found a
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: way to win it over time. Yeah, I mean the
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: good of the franchise. I was sitting there with the
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: guys that was worked with him, saying, don't let him
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: get the two point play now, just don't you know,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: it'll all work out how it's supposed to do and
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Like I tweeted out, what if
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: Justin Fields ends up being better? You know what? You
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: have no idea? Really? Right? No, you don't, No, you've
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: seen so far, you know you would think, and that's
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: why Chevor Lawrence probably go first. But I mean, but
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: though Saturday night, I don't know if you guys watched
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Clemson at all. He threw some balls in the coverage
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: and one in the end zone. He was picked off
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: and he never saw the guy coming across. I mean,
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: it was it was a bad read. I don't know
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: if you guys saw it. Pete Prisco, there's the headline.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: Prisco says, Lawrence drops in draft order. No, no, no,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. But I mean they all
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: have issues. I mean everybody, everybody does. Yeah. And and
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to play quarterback when you have
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: all these great players, just saying with justin fields, I mean,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: they've always had great players around them. How do you
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: handle it when you don't have great players around you?
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, and and JP, you're an Alabama fan, big
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: Alabama fan. You went there is is to a better
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: than Mac Jones? Mm. I don't know, Max pretty good
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: this year, I'll say that, right, But is he better?
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: That's what I mean. You know, and people always Tony,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: but Pete is to a lightning and to alighting it
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: up in Miami. No, and that's the point. And that's
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: the point, and that's the point. Mac Joes is putting
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: up numbers just as good as two it did at Alabama.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: Better better. In fact, let's go around the national Football
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: you hit some of these key games from yesterday. Uh,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: speaking of quarterbacks, Taysom Hill and the Saints gotta win
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: over the Falcons. That's your guy, Pete and he looked
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: pretty darn good. Yes, you can have you can have him.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: You know what he beat? He beat the Falcons at home,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: didn't do much. He finally threw two touchdown passes against
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: them yesterday and still only scored twenty one. And he
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: beat Kendall hitting in Denver and what didn't even throw
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: for a hundred yard? Is that? Is that what you
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: want for a quarterback? If that's what you wanted for
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, then then have at it. He's not any good.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: What it is like, it's it's the right hand in
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: Tim Tebow. Oh boy, hey, Dolphins gotta win. He said
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: two is not playing well. They won the game. There's
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: a big fight in the game, but they're still winning
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: in Miami. He's a good coach, Brian Flores. But did
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: you see what he did when he came out on
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: the field and got into with the Bengals. He shouldn't
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: be doing that, but Tony has a player. Would you
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: take that as a positive or negative? The coach, the
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: coach getting into the brawl like that. Yeah, I didn't
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: see it though. I mean, I don't know the the
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: kind of facts around it, but I'll say this, he
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: is loved in that locker room because they think our guy,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: our coach, has our back. I mean, I'm telling you
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: he's loved by I mean, they would like that, I
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: would think. I mean I wouldn't. I would too. He
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: didn't fight anybody, just came out of the field start
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: getting you know what happened their part returner got blasted
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: twice on two plays, you know, illegally, and so he
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: got mad about it and and I'm okay with it,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: have no problem with it. It's a bad you know,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: he shouldn't continue it over he almost went to the
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: other Sidelaller would like that. Yep, I would think so too.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: The first place New York Football Giants. Now after a
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: win over the Seahawks, what is going on up there? Pete? Well,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, what's going on with with the Giants. Is
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: the Giants are playing good defense. I mean, you talked
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: about a team you know they had. The Giants had
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: new coordinator, Patrick Graham, new coach, and everybody said, all
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: the defense, campaig any good. He's done a really good
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: job with him. They got all over Russell Wilson, and
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's eye level came way down and he started
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: getting hit. And late in the game on the third
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: down play, Leonard Williams looked like the Leonard Williams everybody
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: expected to see when he exploded past this guy for
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: a sack. Um. They played well, and that was with
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: Colt McCoy. Think about that. That was even with your
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: starting quarterback. You go to Seattle and win. That's impressive. Yeah,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: jo Judge has done a good job, hasn't he remember
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: all the stuff he did in training camp when he
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: tried to weed everybody out. A certain guy in Jacksonville
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: did that in his first camp. Two Well, and they
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: they're the best team in the NFC East. They're gonna
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: win that division. Schedules a little tough, but they also
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: have won two games over the Washington football team already,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: which gives him a big advantage. Yeah, so you have it.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: Those are some key games from yesterday. Chief's gotta win
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: last night as well. Monday Afternoon Football Team one is
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: already underway, and the Washington football team at four and
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: seven meeting the undefeated Pittsburgh Steelers had eleven and oh
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: and Ben Roethlisberger's just hit Deante Johnson on a three
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass early in the second quarter. Steelers seven,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: Washington nothing. But they still ever run the ball. That's
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: the Steelers a three yard touchdown pass because they can't
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: run it more than a foot. Well, they just hit.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: They hit about a third down, third and twelve, third
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: team play down to the three and then scored on
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  Speaker 1: the next play. They don't run. They don't even try
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  Speaker 1: and run. Their passing game is the running game. Game
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  Speaker 1: two Monday Night Football, the Buffalo Bills at eight and
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  Speaker 1: three visit the San Francisco forty Niners at five and six.
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  Speaker 1: But they're not in Santa Clara. They won't allow contact sports.
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  Speaker 1: It's in Glendale at State Farm Stadium. Who you got?
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  Speaker 1: I got the Bills. I think Josh Allen's gonna go
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  Speaker 1: do one of his games where he throws it a
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  Speaker 1: ton on early downs. The forty Niners aren't bad against
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  Speaker 1: the run, so I think they throw it a lot
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  Speaker 1: and I think they dictate tempo. I'll take the Bills, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's I think the forty Niners are I mean,
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  Speaker 1: with all the injuries they had, give that Kyle Shanahan,
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  Speaker 1: that whole staff a lot of credit. They got one
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  Speaker 1: of the best defensive statistically in the NFL, still without
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  Speaker 1: top tenant in the league, and they've had all those injuries.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, so give them a lot of credit.
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  Speaker 1: I think they I think the Bills slip up here,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I think and they might be that
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  Speaker 1: last playoff spot in the end when it's all said
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  Speaker 1: and done, because they know and then they run the
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  Speaker 1: ball well and they're playing good defense. Kyle Shanny has
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  Speaker 1: a heck of a coach. I mean, we know that. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think that I think is gonna win tonight,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they're dangerous down the stretch. If they
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  Speaker 1: get in, nobody will want to play. Then. I guarantee you,
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  Speaker 1: all right, boys, Pete Frisco, Tony Vaselli out of here,
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