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Ultra-Processed Food Lawsuit | President Trump Threatens Venezuela · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty.
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  Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty Bill Handle.
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  Speaker 3: Here it is Aday, Wednesday, December third, and we've got
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  Speaker 3: some trending news. The United States is no longer part
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  Speaker 3: of World AIDS Day because the I think we're going
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  Speaker 3: to hear from the White House an official statement is
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  Speaker 3: that AIDS in and of itself is fake news. It's
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  Speaker 3: just we've been there since the eighties and so well
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  Speaker 3: Trump administration said, we are we are out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I want to give you a little cocaine news, okay,
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  Speaker 3: and I know how does this connect with kids and
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  Speaker 3: processed foods?
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  Speaker 2: Neil, you're giving me the look.
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  Speaker 3: When I was a cocaine addict lo many years ago,
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  Speaker 3: one of the things that happened. You would buy cocaine
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  Speaker 3: and it used to be sometimes in little rocks, and
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  Speaker 3: there was something called the Deeries deering grinder where you
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  Speaker 3: would put it in and grind it up so it
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  Speaker 3: was snortable and then the real fine particles you would snort.
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  Speaker 2: And that was with cocaine.
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  Speaker 3: We're now finding that kids are doing the same thing
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  Speaker 3: with Oreo cookies. They are grinding up these cookies and
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  Speaker 3: snorting them. And what is happening is San Francisco. The
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  Speaker 3: city is the first entity to sue the major companies
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  Speaker 3: Coca Cola, Kellogg's, Mondez that all these major companies ultra
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  Speaker 3: processed foods and they want to do exactly what we did.
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  Speaker 3: The big tobacco admit that you knew these foods were
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  Speaker 3: bad for kids, and keep on marketing them to kids.
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  Speaker 3: O Neil, First of all, what is process How do
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  Speaker 3: you define processed foods?
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  Speaker 2: First?
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  Speaker 1: You got to tip your hat to Cono for playing
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  Speaker 1: Henry Mancini's March Elephants, I think is what it was,
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  Speaker 1: or like that AnyWho very well done. So when the
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  Speaker 1: industry food industry jumps in and they make calculations and
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  Speaker 1: formulations that are made from additives, from extracts from these
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  Speaker 1: things that are parts.
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  Speaker 2: Of food but no whole foods, they put preservatives in there.
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  Speaker 1: In place of those things, they put sugar, salt, unhealthy fats,
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  Speaker 1: artificial colors, flavors and things that will extend the shelf
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  Speaker 1: life preservatives. That is ultra processed everything. Almost everything you
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  Speaker 1: consume is a processed food in some way. If you
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  Speaker 1: go to a restaurant that's processed they cooked it, they
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  Speaker 1: cut it.
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  Speaker 2: That's one thing that's fat basic fabrication.
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  Speaker 1: Ultra processed foods are when there's very little food substance
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  Speaker 1: and it's pieces and parts of foods that they've kind
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  Speaker 1: of packed each together to make something crunchy and something
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  Speaker 1: you can eat but has low nutrients, has other chemicals
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  Speaker 1: and things that are more about the marketing of it
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  Speaker 1: rather than the food capabilities of it.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of what it comes down to, and it is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about nuggets made out of chicken feet,
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  Speaker 3: which when you put enough chemicals and preservatives, they're crunchy
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  Speaker 3: and they taste pretty good. And what you're eating is
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  Speaker 3: also parts of cows that you wouldn't normally eat. And
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to get into that, but two things.
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  Speaker 3: Number one, doesn't it make the food taste better?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 3: And number two, how dangerous is it? And we don't
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  Speaker 3: know yet? Right Well, here's.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of things that bug me about this particular
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  Speaker 1: topic is the demonizing of processed food. You have to
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  Speaker 1: understand the difference of how something's processed, what's it's processed with.
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  Speaker 2: Or people that say I.
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  Speaker 1: Will never eat anything with more than five ingredients in it.
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  Speaker 1: If you looked at the general makeup of an apple
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  Speaker 1: chemically and an orange chemically, it has more than five
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  Speaker 1: ingredients in it has more than five chemicals in it.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not just the chemical it's not just the
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  Speaker 1: amount of chemicals. It's not just processing, because there's some
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  Speaker 1: things that need processing that are still good. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you process sugarcane, but it doesn't make it bad. It's
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  Speaker 1: only when you ultraprocess and you make it white sugar
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  Speaker 1: and you overprocess and do these things. But it's also
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  Speaker 1: habit bill in the seventies way that have these things
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  Speaker 1: because we had at least one parent at home, We
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  Speaker 1: had dinners made, and we didn't try and bring the
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  Speaker 1: the grocery store home.
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  Speaker 2: Think about it.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you want a grocery store in your house so
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  Speaker 1: you shop all these things instead of for dinner each
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  Speaker 1: day or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Two questions, and we have to run out of here
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  Speaker 3: because our break is coming up. Where does it cross
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  Speaker 3: the line where you reach ultra processed and I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that's been defined yet. And then the marketing of
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  Speaker 3: this to kids, and this is the big issue San
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  Speaker 3: Francisco not saying stop this, just stop marketing to kids,
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  Speaker 3: much like big tobacco. Remember that lawsuit in the nineties
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  Speaker 3: in which everything changed.
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  Speaker 2: If you could answer those two and then we're out
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  Speaker 2: of here.
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  Speaker 1: You can't separate at the marketing to kids, because if
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  Speaker 1: it's crunchy and colorful and these types of things, it's
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  Speaker 1: marketed to kids and people. And I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: you separate those things. But as far as.
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  Speaker 2: The content, when the content is.
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  Speaker 1: Less food and structural things that you have to bring
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  Speaker 1: to it to make it look more like food, and
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  Speaker 1: the shelf life, the longer the shelf life through preservatives,
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  Speaker 1: those are the big dangers. The non food stuffs and
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  Speaker 1: the preservative to me are the worst offenders of this.
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  Speaker 3: In mind that they take the more process, the better
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  Speaker 3: it tasts. And I'm going to argue even science has
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  Speaker 3: proven the better they are for you ulster process equals health.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they've taken the health out of it, just giving
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  Speaker 1: you the crunch. We're done, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, here's an interesting one. A little bit of history.
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  Speaker 3: All right. In nineteen fifty seven, my parents with me
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  Speaker 3: come in the United States, and they were Brazilian citizens.
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  Speaker 3: And in those days when they swore their citizenship and
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  Speaker 3: you have to swear you want to be a citizen,
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  Speaker 3: Q had to give up any other citizenship. You have
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  Speaker 3: to have exclusive allegiance to the United States. Well that changed,
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  Speaker 3: that changed pretty dramatically in nineteen sixty seven. That changed
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  Speaker 3: that you no longer have to swear soul legiance to
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  Speaker 3: the United States.
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  Speaker 2: So we're all citizens of Brazil.
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  Speaker 3: My parents became citizens of the United States and no
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  Speaker 3: longer citizens of Brazil because they renounced Brazilian citizenship. I
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  Speaker 3: am still a citizen of Brazil and the United States
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  Speaker 3: because I was eleven years old and I eleven year old.
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  Speaker 3: Kids don't swear allegiance or don't swear allegiance. You just
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  Speaker 3: stay where you are. So I am a citizen of both,
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  Speaker 3: and I can apply for additional citizenship for example, as
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  Speaker 3: you know, when I retire, I want to spend some
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  Speaker 3: time in Italy and here, and I don't have to
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  Speaker 3: swear allegiance. Well maybe I do because now when you well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't have to swear because I'm already a citizen.
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  Speaker 3: But new citizens have to have sole and exclusive allegiance
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  Speaker 3: the United States. Going back before sixty seven, and Senator
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  Speaker 3: Bernie Moreno of Ohio Republican is introduced to bill, the
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  Speaker 3: Exclusive Citizenship Act of twenty twenty five, saying, it's real simple.
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  Speaker 3: If you swear allegiance to the United States, you cannot
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  Speaker 3: have allegiance to any other country.
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  Speaker 2: You just can't do it.
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  Speaker 3: We need people in this country to only look at
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  Speaker 3: American citizenship as their sole citizenship.
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  Speaker 2: So that changed, and.
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  Speaker 3: Now he wants to go back to the days in
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  Speaker 3: which my parents relinquished their Brazilian citizenship.
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  Speaker 2: And there are a bunch of rules here.
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  Speaker 3: Those who have dual citizenship would have to submit a
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  Speaker 3: written renunciation of foreign citizenship to the Secretary of State,
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  Speaker 3: a written renunciation of US citizenship to the Secretary of
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  Speaker 3: Homeland Security. And if I don't comply, because I'm a
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  Speaker 3: dual citizen, if I don't comply, I will deemed to
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  Speaker 3: have voluntarily relinquished my US citizenship.
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  Speaker 2: Now that gets that's pretty out there.
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  Speaker 3: And what Moreno said, being an American citizen is an
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  Speaker 3: honor and privilege.
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  Speaker 2: I'll buy that. And if if you want to be
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  Speaker 2: American it's all or nothing. I don't buy that.
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  Speaker 3: And it's time to end dual citizenship for good. Now.
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  Speaker 3: The reality is I am not alone I am technically.
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  Speaker 3: I am technically a Brazilian citizen, and that's it. My
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  Speaker 3: allegiance is to this country. I am applying for citizenship
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  Speaker 3: for a Polish citizenship for two reasons. Number One, if
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  Speaker 3: I want to live anywhere in Europe and I have
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  Speaker 3: a European Union passport, there are twenty eight countries they
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  Speaker 3: are in European Union, of which Poland is one, I
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  Speaker 3: basically become a citizen of all of Europe, or at
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  Speaker 3: least those that are p part of the treaty.
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  Speaker 2: And so for me it makes it real easy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a when I go into Europe and I
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  Speaker 3: want to live there, I'm a citizen. Now does that
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  Speaker 3: mean I am a citizen and my allegiance is to Poland?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. So the other.
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  Speaker 3: Reason that I want to be a Polish citizen is
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  Speaker 3: because I want to be the butt of Polish jokes.
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  Speaker 3: I just like the idea, right, how does Bill handle
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  Speaker 3: screw in a light bulb?
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  Speaker 2: I just happen to.
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  Speaker 3: Like that, Or how many handles does it take to
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  Speaker 3: screw in a light bulb?
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  Speaker 2: And the answer is everybody in his family.
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  Speaker 3: So I have a hard time with this, in which
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  Speaker 3: dual citizenship is connected somehow to not being not having
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  Speaker 3: allegiance to the United States of America.
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  Speaker 2: I truly don't.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'll tell you other countries don't recognize American citizenship
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  Speaker 3: when I go to Brazil. I went to Brazil with
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  Speaker 3: my American passport when I was eighteen. I went down
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  Speaker 3: there to visit and there it was born in Brazil.
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  Speaker 3: Brazil doesn't recognize that I was American. I'm Brazilian when
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  Speaker 3: I walk in the door.
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  Speaker 2: And guess what.
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  Speaker 3: They draft people when they are eighteen years old. I
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  Speaker 3: was drafted by the Brazilian army and the rule was
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  Speaker 3: if I serve in a foreign army military service, then
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  Speaker 3: I lose my citizenship. But I still I still get drafted. Well,
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  Speaker 3: thank god, I was able to buy myself out of there.
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  Speaker 3: It was so corrupt down there. It cost me one
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  Speaker 3: hundred dollars in a bottle of whisky. And my family
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  Speaker 3: got really angry with me because they say, you could
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  Speaker 3: have done this for fifty dollars. So I'm a citizen
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  Speaker 3: and I will be a citizen of three countries. Is
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  Speaker 3: my allegiance to the United States any less? It is not.
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  Speaker 3: And what this senator wants to do is make sure
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  Speaker 3: that only American citizens or only people who are applying
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  Speaker 3: to or have dual citizenship, swear allegiance.
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  Speaker 2: To the United States.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess there's a point to it, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I mean, that's stretching, it
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  Speaker 3: really is.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Now, a word about what's going on in
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  Speaker 2: the world of oil.
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  Speaker 3: Venezuela and the president the United States appears to be
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  Speaker 3: ready for war with Venezuela, and the President has effectively
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  Speaker 3: not taken anything off the table, and it's all has
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  Speaker 3: to do with Nicholas Maduro, the president of Venezuela. And
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  Speaker 3: the argument is that these boats, these cigarette boats, because
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  Speaker 3: they're really fast, that's what they're called, have drugs in them,
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  Speaker 3: and frankly, the US is boiling them.
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  Speaker 2: The bits, which I completely agree with.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is this is sort of a declaration of
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  Speaker 3: war and the United States really doesn't have the right
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  Speaker 3: to do this. But the fact that the administration has
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  Speaker 3: said that these we're at war with these people gives
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  Speaker 3: him a break, and it is argued they are arguing
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  Speaker 3: they have a right to do this. Now, a couple
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  Speaker 3: things about Venezuela, which is really interesting because the argument
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  Speaker 3: is This is not about drugs. This is about oil.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if this is true or not.
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  Speaker 3: You can't accuse Trump of everything, although I come pretty close.
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  Speaker 3: Venezuela is sitting on the largest reserve of oil on
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  Speaker 3: the planet. We think of Saudi Arabia, we think of
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  Speaker 3: the United States, which produces the most oil, not even close.
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  Speaker 2: It's Venezuela.
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  Speaker 3: However, Maduro is the president of Venezuela and he has
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  Speaker 3: almost single handedly destroyed the country. Now actually the country
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  Speaker 3: the Maduro government Hugo is it Chavez that took control
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  Speaker 3: before Maduro in twenty thirteen, and it is now pumping
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  Speaker 3: out less than a third of what it was before
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  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine when this quote socialist government took over.
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  Speaker 3: And they just don't pump off the oil. They're just
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  Speaker 3: not getting the money. There are sanctions in place. The
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  Speaker 3: international companies are not investing because it takes a huge investment.
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  Speaker 3: The oil involved here is very heavy oil and heavy
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  Speaker 3: oil versus crude oil. Crude oil is for gasoline, that
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  Speaker 3: sort of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Heavy duty oil.
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  Speaker 3: Is for diesel fuel and other kinds of fossil fuels
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  Speaker 3: that are needed. For example, ships take heavy oil. It's
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  Speaker 3: like sludge actually to run massive ships. So is it
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  Speaker 3: about oil or not. Venezuela used to used to be
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  Speaker 3: one of the world's greatest cities. It was by far
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  Speaker 3: the wealthiest city in South America.
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  Speaker 2: Caracas used to be on.
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  Speaker 3: The same level certainly in South America, as Paris, as London,
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  Speaker 3: as New York.
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  Speaker 2: It was at that level.
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  Speaker 3: It is basically now a toilet because single handedly, what
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  Speaker 3: Maduro has done is just drag it into the well
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  Speaker 3: with toilet, much like what Mugabi did in Zimbabwe. Took
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  Speaker 3: the wealthiest country in Africa and now makes it one
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  Speaker 3: of the poorest country in Africa because you have one guy,
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  Speaker 3: one guy who controls effectively destroying everything. And so is
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  Speaker 3: the president looking at oil? You know what?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so even the accusation is there.
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  Speaker 3: I think it is literally about the drug industry and
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  Speaker 3: drugs coming out of Venezuela. What he should actually go
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  Speaker 3: is to China where the fentanyl comes from, to Mexico,
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  Speaker 3: to Colombia, who are far more involved in bringing drugs
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  Speaker 3: into the country than Venezuela. But the geopolitics, how much
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  Speaker 3: does it hurt to go after Venezuela versus China versus Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: How would oil play into this because they have the
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  Speaker 1: largest reserves in the world, I know, But what would
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  Speaker 1: that mean, If that means, how we get our hands
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  Speaker 1: on it.
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  Speaker 3: Because well, we would have American investment in there because
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  Speaker 3: it's already one major company, Atlantic Richfield is going in
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  Speaker 3: and this oil is so valuable and it affects it
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  Speaker 3: affects the world market for oil, so oil becomes cheaper,
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  Speaker 3: American companies make buckets of money, and it just helps
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  Speaker 3: us to the greatest extent. We are probably going to
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  Speaker 3: be the recipient of the greatest good on this. We're
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  Speaker 3: going to be the biggest benefactor or the biggest recipient
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  Speaker 3: of the oil being introduced into the world market. Problem
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  Speaker 3: is going to take ten years, and it's going to
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  Speaker 3: take billions and billions of dollars. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a third of Venezuela had the population is left. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: who has brains or marketable skills gone, and what you
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  Speaker 3: have left is poor people who rely on governmental assistance.
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  Speaker 3: So it's all subsidized in Venezuela. Well, you can't subsidize
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  Speaker 3: an entire population if there's no money being manufactured, if
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  Speaker 3: businesses aren't working if oil is not being produced and used.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, can you imagine a third of what was
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  Speaker 3: produced is produced versus nineteen ninety nine a third? And
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  Speaker 3: so here's the argument Trump is doing this oil.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. He has an entire task force.
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  Speaker 3: An air carrier or a aircraft carrier task force in
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  Speaker 3: the Caribbean now dealing with this.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you that is not cheap. And then
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  Speaker 2: the issue of the attacks.
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  Speaker 3: On those purported drug boats and what oh ma, that's
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  Speaker 3: a fun one. The double tap what pete he sat
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  Speaker 3: has done and said, changing his tune over the last
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  Speaker 3: two days several times.
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  Speaker 2: Now, a new poll NBC News poll.
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  Speaker 3: Came out sixty three percent of US Americans believe that
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  Speaker 3: a four year college degree is not worth the cost
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  Speaker 3: because people graduate without specific job skills. I graduated in
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  Speaker 3: political science. What the hell do you do with political science?
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  Speaker 3: Who in a hire who has a political science degree?
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  Speaker 2: What do they do? Specifically? Nothing?
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  Speaker 3: And so so no specific job skills, large amount of
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  Speaker 3: debt to pay off. And a similar CNBC poll back
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  Speaker 3: in twenty thirteen said that fifty three percent of Americans.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's sixty three percent, and it has changed dramatically.
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  Speaker 2: What's happening.
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  Speaker 3: Well, higher education has gotten so much more expensive, far
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  Speaker 3: blowing out the amount of anything else. The cost of
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  Speaker 3: inflation is just a fraction or the inflation's rate is
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  Speaker 3: a fraction of what education has gone up. The labor
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  Speaker 3: market has changed, AI has changed. My daughter who is
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  Speaker 3: now getting a master's degree in computer science, I'm telling her,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, learn how to make coffee and line
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  Speaker 3: up to go to a Starbucks. My other daughter, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, started just starting school working on her bachelor's
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  Speaker 3: degree now in women's advocacy, whatever the hell that is,
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  Speaker 3: and that is helping women deal with trauma and deal
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  Speaker 3: with well women's issues, which I don't understand why she
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  Speaker 3: would ever do that or anybody for that sake. The
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  Speaker 3: bottom line is college was a very different, different animal.
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  Speaker 3: I grew up in a household as many people do,
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  Speaker 3: where college was a given.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was just like eating breakfast, you go
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  Speaker 2: to college.
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  Speaker 3: Well those days are gone, and the college education is
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  Speaker 3: so expensive. I funded my kid's college education the day
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  Speaker 3: they were born, and I don't know if that money
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  Speaker 3: and this eighteen years later and it's fully funded, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if that's enough money to pay for the
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  Speaker 3: college education.
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  Speaker 2: So the answer is.
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  Speaker 3: To them and Amy, what do you think the answer
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  Speaker 3: would be with a fully funded college education fund to
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  Speaker 3: your kids?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think the answer would be. Yes, the
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  Speaker 2: answer I will take it.
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  Speaker 3: No, the answer is, don't bother going to college. I
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  Speaker 3: will take the money and I will use it because
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  Speaker 3: I can do that because I'm a trustee of the
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  Speaker 3: college fund. Now, if I take the money, which I'm
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  Speaker 3: allowed to do by the way, I have to pay
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  Speaker 3: ordinary income plus ten percent tax on top of that.
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  Speaker 3: So it is horrifically expensive to take the money.
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  Speaker 2: So now we use it for education. No, you can
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  Speaker 2: use it for anything you want. If you take the money,
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  Speaker 2: you can grab the money.
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  Speaker 1: It's trustee, I think, I can't you use it for education?
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  Speaker 2: I can? Yeah, why would I do? What kind of
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  Speaker 2: education am I going to get?
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  Speaker 3: Right to get his degree? That's true, that would work,
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  Speaker 3: That would work. You're right, Yeah, I never thought of that.
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  Speaker 3: I was just thinking of just taking the money and
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  Speaker 3: having a good time with it. So as my daughter's
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  Speaker 3: and college, when we have the same conversation, you know what, I.
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  Speaker 2: Say, too bad.
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  Speaker 3: You are out of luck and it doesn't make a
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  Speaker 3: lot of sense to go to college These days, it
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  Speaker 3: really doesn't. Long term, it still does, but college it's
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  Speaker 3: a tough call, it really is.
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  Speaker 2: It used to be really easy. He got out of
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  Speaker 2: college at a great job.
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  Speaker 3: He made more money than anybody who had a vocational skill.
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  Speaker 3: Today it's just not the same and college may not
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  Speaker 3: be worth it, and the majority of Americans.
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  Speaker 2: Agree with that. This is KFI AM six point forty.
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  Speaker 2: You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.
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