Latest / Scrubbing In with Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad / Girl Chat with Ashley Iaconetti

Transcript

Girl Chat with Ashley Iaconetti · Scrubbing In with Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tanya Radd, an iHeartRadio.
• 0:04
  Speaker 2: And two-time People's Choice Award-winning podcast.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. We are scrubbing in. Yes, that's my voice
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: two times because Becca is out. She is officially in
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Thailand and she'll be gone for two weeks of the podcast.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: But I am very excited because we have a co-host
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: today that I love so much.
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: And I....
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about who I wanted to do the
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: podcast with. And I was like, I really just, I
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: was talking to our producer, Sam. I was like, I
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: just want somebody to like laugh and have like girl
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: chat with. And this is the perfect guest to do
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: those things. So please welcome Ashley Ai to the podcast.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: Hi, I feel so pressure on, you know what I mean?
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: I feel like pressure on because you guys are the
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: most joy filled, um, best girl talkers ever. So are you.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, thanks. It's been a while. You know what
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: I mean? Because I used to have a Girl Talk podcast.
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: It's been like over a year.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: Well, now you can bring it.
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: Now you can bring it here. Yeah. Okay. Let's do it.
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: Do we have hot topics and stuff? Yeah.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: So much. Well, there's like so much to cover. And
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: first of all, I want to say thank you to
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: the scrubbers because we usually record our podcast on Mondays.
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: The past two Mondays, I'm doing a little something different
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: with my trying to conceive era.
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: I'm doing something a little different this month, which requires
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: me to be going to like doctor's appointments and things.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: So we're doing a recording on a Tuesday, releasing this
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. I just want to say thank you
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: to the scrubbers for understanding and being flexible with my schedule,
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: but we should be right on track. Oh no, next
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: week's Labor Day. So we'll be back on Tuesday next week.
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: But I just wanted to say thank you. Cause I
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: know like I get in my routine with my podcast.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: Like I love having my certain podcasts that I listen
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: to specific days that they drop. So when you go
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: off your format, it like, really messes with you as
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: a consumer, like me as a listener. So I don't
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: like doing that to our scrubbers.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: Okay. So Tanya, what day do you listen to Hey Jonas?
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: Um, every day of the week. What day do you
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: listen to Hey Jonas?
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: Well, so they've been coming out with multiple a week
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: where I'm like, Hey boss, to all of us, Amy, like,
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: are you guys, uh, like, this is a lot.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: Like you listen every time they drop one.
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: No. So what I do, I listen to every single episode,
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: but because I want to be in a certain mood
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: when those come out, I kind of bank them. Like
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: sometimes I'll go like 10 days without listening to them.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: I also like watching those podcasts instead of just listening.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: Obvious reasons. And I also like want to be in
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: a place where I'm happy and zen because I don't
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: want to ever associate Jonas with a time that I'm stressed.
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, but it's not how you like, I feel
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: like that's how I like listen to everything is like,
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: I have to be in certain moods. I have to
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: kind of just like know what's going on. I don't,
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: I have like my specific things I do when I walk,
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: when I'm driving. You do?
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. So do you listen to music when you
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: walk or podcast when you walk?
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: Podcast when I walk.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: Okay. When do you listen to music then?
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: When I'm working out.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't work out. So that's the thing.
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: Okay. Speaking of Jonas, I want, well, I mean, I
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: just feel like there's like so much to talk to
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: you about, but so I'm going to prioritize, but you
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: started off with Jonas. So I'm going to start off
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: with Jonas. We actually got to see each other last
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: week in New York at Madison Square Garden. Can you
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: believe that was last week?
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: Well, it's almost, yeah, it's like a week and a
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: half ago. And let me just say that was one
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: of the most joy filled days of my life.
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: So I was trying to, so Becca's never been to
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: a Jonas Brothers concert before.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've learned at the Scrubbing It podcast. Yeah.
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, how have you never been to one?
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: First of all, and I'm like, it's such a, because
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've gone, we've gone to other concerts. There's
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: something in the room, in the, like the vibe of
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: a Jonas Brothers concert that really cannot be replicated at
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: another show.
• 4:10
  Speaker 2: No. And- Anybody who goes for the first time kind
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: of picks up on that. When Jared went to his
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: first couple back in 2019, he's like, it truly is
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: like the happiest place in the world. It's like a
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: Disney world for music and fandom.
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And even if you don't know any, like Robbie
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: also didn't know like any of the songs and he
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: still had like the best time because the energy was
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: just like infectious.
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: It's something about the fans, like those fans. They're just...
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: They resonate with me. I relate to them so much.
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: There's just like something in the quality of people that,
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: that the Jonas brothers attract. So you're just like in
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: a room with the best girls ever. Ever. Okay.
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: Wait, what's your Jonas ranking? Have we talked about this?
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't like to rank now. You know what
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: Well, because it's just like straight up wrong. Like I
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: don't want to rank them. Oh, you're talking about as brothers?
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: No, like who's your favorite? Like one, two, three, like
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: your favorite. Not like ranking, like hotness, like ranking favoritism.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: No, like I'm okay to rank hotness, but I'm not
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: like not okay to rank favoritism because like I love
• 5:19
  Speaker 2: them all. Okay.
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: I guess rank hotness then.
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Joe has always been like Joe, you know,
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: to me, like he's always been the hot, he's always
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: been my celebrity crush for 18 years.
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: And you married somebody that looks kind of like him.
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, right.
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: And I joke all the time. Like, you know, when
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: I get on Instagram and I'm just like, look at
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: this video, like, ah, um, I'm like, thank God you
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: like have such a resemblance. Like you look more like them, babe.
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: And like, he looks like Joe of most of all
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: of them, but you look more like them than even
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: Franklin does.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: He looks like he really could be the fourth brother. And, um, yeah,
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: he like is not weirded out at all. He's like, yeah,
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's nice that there's such a, I don't want.
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: To say I love them so much. Like it like
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: actually hurts.
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: No, I know. Like it brings me so much joy
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: to my life. And I love the fact that you
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: are like quite friendly with them. And then you also
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: just get on your mic and you're just like, hi,
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: I love you so much. Like you love them, love them,
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: no shame. And that's how I am too. It's just
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: the love. It's 18 years of just.
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: Making my life better.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: Yes. Making my life better. I know. And like, it's
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: so funny because I find myself going between this like,
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: fan and friend with them at times that like is
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: so weird like sometimes I'm like I'm sitting in Kevin's
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: dressing room having like a Aperol spritz and I'm just
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: like I'm sitting in Kevin's dressing room having an Aperol
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: spritz you know what I mean like.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: That's why it's funny for me to watch you because
• 6:59
  Speaker 2: like you embrace the fact that you're like a friend
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: and fan and one and you actually separate it which
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: is kind of amazing.
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: Like you would think as a friend, it'd be embarrassing
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: that I'm like standing so close to the stage, screaming
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: the words out to their songs, like making eye contact
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: with them and belting out the lyrics and like crying
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: at times. But like, I have no shame. And then
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: when they tell me that they can see me and like,
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: they like, it like makes them happy when they see
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: me having like such a good time. I'm like, nah,
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: that's like, that's where I need to be.
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's so soul filling. Yeah. Um, and yeah,
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: there was something about the, that MSG concert where I
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: was just like, that is what I needed during that week.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: It oddly put like something in perspective for me as
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: sounds so weird as Jonas concerts, like often do where
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: it's just like high quality, like high vibration.
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: And it like tells you like to prioritize the high
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: vibrations in your life.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: Did you wait? Did you see them at the sphere
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: watching the Backstreet Boys?
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: I like couldn't handle it, Tanya. Now that's where my
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: heart and brain exploded because obviously I love the Backstreet
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: Boys with so much of my heart. I love Jonas
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: with so much of my heart. And then I love
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: new kids. Like, I mean, I'm just a boy band girl, right?
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: Like I fully love each and every chapter of boy
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: band dumb. And to see Donnie Wahlberg greet the Jonas
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: Brothers in the box at a Backstreet Boys concert, like
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: I just couldn't handle it. I was like, I actually
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: can't think too deeply about this.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: So like I specifically didn't ask anybody on the team
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: that I know any questions about this because I want
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: to like theorize as like an actual fan. But like
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: them going to the sphere, I'm like, are they checking
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: this out to maybe like have a residency there?
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: Did Nick not go last year? I feel like Nick
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: did go to Backstreet last year, but by himself.
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: Having all three of them there, it felt like they
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: were taking notes and observing it in a way like, oh,
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: maybe this is something that we could do at some point.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: Well, do you remember that internet rumor or speculation from
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: a couple months ago where Nick said, when we have
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: our Spear residency, and then he said.
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: He said that?
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: He said- I mean, you know, down the road if
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: that ever happens. But then people started to like kind
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: of dissect that statement. I wonder how many years it
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: takes to plan one of those.
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: Did you go back straight last?
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: Did you go back straight? I'm going to go in
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: January again. I wasn't able to this summer and I
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: want to take my dad and my sister. So we're taking,
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: you know, figuring out a time and make it all go.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: If the Jonas brothers have a Las Vegas residency, I'm
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: going to.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: You and I are going to move to Vegas.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: It's going to like hop on a plane every weekend. Like,
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: are you joking? That would be so fun.
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: We could make this entire podcast probably just Jonas Topic.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: But, like, I don't even think that that would be
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: something they were in talks for just because we have
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: this whole tour in front of us right now.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: I feel like this would be a couple years down
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: the road.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going to happen anytime soon.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering that, like, how many... Does it take, like,
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: at least a year to come up with those visuals
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: in that scale? No. Because... What are you talking about?
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: You don't think it takes a year to come up
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: with those sphere visuals?
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: Not when you have Jonas brains. So maybe next fall
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: we'll get the sphere? I'm going to move on from
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: the Jonas Brothers. Are you going to any Harry shows
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden during his residency there?
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, so he has 30 shows, right? And how far
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: are they spread out?
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: That's a Mark question. I'm going to have to have
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: him look, but they are pretty spread out. It started,
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: it started like last week and I think he goes
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: through definitely through Halloween cause he's doing Harryween. So probably
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: end of October. It's probably the last one.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: Okay. This is straight up honest. I love Harry Styles
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: for like the entity that he is, but like when
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: his hair is as short as it is right now,
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: it just doesn't cut it for me. Oh wow. I know. Whoops.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. It's just, and, and Tonya, I really
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: miss old Harry. Like I miss 2016 Harry. Like I
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: love like rock star, like dirty, grungy, like dark, like
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: leather Harry and not like, like button down dresses. Harry.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love this Harry. And I love this album.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: I know this album was a little bit controversial, but like,
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: I really loved it.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, see, I listened to it once and I was
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: just like, it's not, OK, we're going.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: To move on because like this is just like this
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: is this is offensive.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: We move on from this whole pop star thing. Do
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: you love the new Jonas song and the fact that
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: like every single time? they come out with new music.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: I'm never disappointed. That's the greatest, one of the greatest
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: components about them.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: Never disappointed.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Never disappointed. Like every album. I'm just like, you deliver
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: every time. No. Okay.
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: I have to just say this.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: Consistency.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: So Ashley was at the Friday night show of the
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: Jonas Brothers Madison Square Garden. And I was, I stayed
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: Thursday and Saturday.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: So Friday I left to like, go have dinner. Cause
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: I just needed like a date night with Robbie and
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: In the city.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: Three nights in a row is a lot even for me.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: You want to savor it. You want to enjoy it.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: But the night that I left, I missed Rollercoaster, which
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: is one of my favorite Jonas Brothers songs ever. And
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that song like hits on another level that
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: like nobody really understands. And the fact that I missed
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: it really like hit me hard.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: I know. I'm so sorry about that.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: And they didn't do it the next night.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: It's also one of my top five favorite songs. They need... Guys, hi.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: Ashley and Tanya here. Really pitching the idea that it
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: needs to round out the tour. It needs to be
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: the last song every night because... It brings the burning
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: up tour and then the new era together. Yeah. And
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: then we're like all emotional thinking about how we've been
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: on this actual roller coaster for so many years.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: And our own roller coasters of life. Of life.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Together alongside them and like all the albums representing
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: like different chapters of our lives. Okay.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: And with that, we're done with the Jonas Brothers.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: But I love Harry and I would like to see
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: Harry if given the opportunity. It's just one of those
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: things that I don't have. Like, if I can't make
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: it work, then I like won't make it work. You
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: It's fine. We're not going to fight over this.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: I'm actually like, I'm interested. I'm like, you are this era, Harry.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: We are going to take a quick break. But when
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: we come back, I want to talk about The Real
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Housewives because... When I interviewed Ashley at Madison Square Garden,
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: the cheers and the crowd were going so loud for Ashley.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: They told me to like extend with her because everybody
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: was like cheering so loud.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: And that's the coolest thing I've ever heard. Yeah.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to talk housewives when we come back.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: We're back. Okay.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: We are here. Also, by the way, do you, you
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: still go by Ashley? I, right?
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I will always go by Ashley. I sentimentally attached.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Ashley Haven.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Not really. Like sometimes, like if I'm doing something hosting
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: alongside Jared or we're like in something together, school stuff
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: for the kids, I'll do Ashley. I can Eddie Haven,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: but I never legally changed it.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: It's a pain in the ass. You did recently, right?
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Your contact info on my phone just changed. I know.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Like, is that aggressive that everybody has this like gnarly
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: picture of me in like a blue suit?
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I love it. I was changing it.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: And Robbie was like, maybe make it like professional, you know?
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: And I was like, but I'm like, yes, I have
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: a job, but like my job isn't so professional.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: No, the blue suit's great. It's a suit and it's bright. Yeah. Yeah.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I feel like I have the same one. It's a
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: house with CB. You and you're my house with CB sister.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Um, no, but like I change it now. My
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: TSA pre-check doesn't work. So I have to like go
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: like figure it all out.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it, but it's very sweet
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: and traditional of you to do it. Like I would
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: like to do it, but I don't want to go
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: through all of that.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done it if I really wanted to
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: make rad my middle name and you can't, you can't
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: do that. You just can't do that unless you go
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: through the whole process. I was like, if I'm going
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: to go through the whole process, I'm going to do
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: the whole shebang.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Did you drop your actual middle name? What is your
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: actual middle name?
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I never had a middle name.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, you never had one.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want to drop Nicole.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Who calls you Ashley Nicole?
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just like Ashley Nicole like an Eddie.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: That's like just together.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: You do you.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: But like, yeah, it was... such a long process. And like, still,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like I finally finished it. Like I did everything,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: like my credit cards, my bank, my health insurance, everything.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: And then TSA pre-check, I keep getting like smacked with like, no,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: you don't have it. I'm like, I did all this,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: but okay. Anyways. So real housewives of Rhode Island, we
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: all watched you on the bachelor and you were like
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: bachelor darling. Now you're a real housewife, which is like
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: a whole other Like it literally is a whole other world.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: That was the percentage.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Your first season, were you happy with how you came across?
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I told everybody, like the producers and such, I
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: was like, thank you for like actually showing my real self.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Like I'm like, I didn't have a huge role, which
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: was fine by me. But I was glad that what
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: was shown was very authentic to myself and how I
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: thought things went down.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: What did you learn about yourself, like, watching season one back?
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: It wasn't so much watching it back. It was being
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: in it. And that is that, like, I... I don't
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: know if I'm... Am I so non-confrontational? Or am I
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: surrounded by very confrontational people? Like, I just... I'm not
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: highly bothered. Does that make sense? Yeah.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: It takes a lot to rattle you.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, it... I'm not, I'm sensitive in the way
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: that like I cry easily and like I am more empathic,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: but I am not very sensitive to what other people
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: like say about me. I am sensitive when it comes
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: to like affecting like my family.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Did that, did you, did other people's opinions about your
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: family bother you?
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: No, but I think that like, I mean, not in
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: season one or anything, but I think that I'm more
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: defensive when it comes to that stuff.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: And when it's just about me, I can like laugh
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: at myself pretty easily.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: But when it comes to anything about your family, you're like, no, no.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like we have kids now, you know, we're
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: not just like this bachelor, like ha ha reality couple.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So you liked your experience this round?
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: The experience itself of filming, I found to be far
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: more challenging than Bachelor. There are two, there's Bachelor, you
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: are like submerged in a whole different world and you
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: like leave your regular world and you submerge yourself into
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: another world. And it's kind of like separate entities with Housewives.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: It's documenting your life But I still was able to
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: separate during season one my filming life and my real life.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know. This is so weird to describe, Tanya.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Because I was so much more... emotional in bachelor world
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: because like love is at stake and because like i'm
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: such a hopeless romantic and because i felt like jared
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: was the one and obviously you and i relate strongly
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: on that feeling of knowing that somebody is the one
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: and like things may not be like going in the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: direction of you two being together but then like you
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: know it's supposed to happen i.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Still get dms about that by the way Yeah. Me too.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I get DMs all the time about, like, how do
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: you manifest this? Like, how do I get out of
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: the friend zone?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: How did you hold on when, like, you guys were
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: broken up, not together? I'm like, I just knew he
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: was it. Like, I don't know what to say.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Like, I know. And then I always try to tell
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: people that like you and I are kind of the
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: exception to the rule. Like usually if some guy is
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: saying like, I can't right now, it usually means.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Like he can't. No, I'm like, and I'm probably the worst.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm giving like the worst advice because someone's like,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: my boyfriend just broke up with me. Like, how do
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I move on? I'm like, why do you have to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: move on? Like, if you think he's your guy, like.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't do that. Like I, Robbie and
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I broke up and I was still like, this is
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: my guy. Like, I just know he's the one for me.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna like do my thing until he
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: comes crawling back.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I tried to mentally like, I guess I tried to
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: mentally detach from Jared in, in chapters. What I would
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: do would be like, oh, okay. So it's not going
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: to happen this month. So I'll be chill this month.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: And then we'll like start fresh again. Some other point.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Like I was always going into a reboot. Like I
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, not now. All right. Take a beat.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: And then we'll go back into it in a little while. Right.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: So I would able to detach and attach, like detach
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and attach, like throughout that whole saga. But to go
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: back to what Housewives is different than Bachelor is I
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: find Housewives to be more, it was more draining for
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: me because there was so much conflict. And I think
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: that on Bachelor, because it was love-oriented, it just felt
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: different sometimes.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I will say, I love you so much. You're
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: literally one of my favorite people and I will support
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: you till... the end of the earth and back. But
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: watching the real housewives was a struggle for me because
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: And like, there was just, because you were like feeling
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: yourself in my position.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I could feel like, I'm like, there's so much chaos
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: going around. I couldn't even keep up with the chaos
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: at some point. I'm like, what are they fighting about?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Like, what? I'm like, what? there are times where I
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: am like, I'm stupid. Am I dumb? Because I can't
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: figure out why we're all so angry right now.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: It's like, am I following the story and I'll find
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: myself like narrating and repeating and like, okay, so this
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: is it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but I felt like it was nice.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Cause I just feel like you were a little bit
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: of a breath of fresh air.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks. Yeah. Thank you so very much.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: You're so welcome. Speaking of TV shows, do you watch
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Love Island?
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: No. Because, you know, it feels too raunchy for me.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I know that you're obsessed. I know. How do you,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: as such a clean, bubbly person, find yourself so obsessed
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: with the dirt that comes with Love Island?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, it's a show
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: about love, like you said.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Is it really? Does it feel lovey?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: So, if you watch the UK, it does. The USA version,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: not so much.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: But I just think I'm so in that like I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: can't get off. You know what I mean? Like I'm
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: on the roller coaster and like I'm going to be
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: on it until it stops. But the reunion aired last
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: night and it was so hard to watch for several
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: different reasons. First of all, the season wrapped in like
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: June and it's now it aired August 31st. So it's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: kind of like I forgot half of the stuff that
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: they like brought up.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I thought it was like live, though.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: It wasn't. They filmed this like August 10th or something.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: So it's been sitting on a shelf for like two weeks.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it was like so bad. And then everything
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: was edited super, super tight. So I felt like I
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: was just like watching. It was like very like robotic.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: And then they kept bringing stuff up that was like
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: not shown on the show. It was like stuff that
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: happened on social media after. And they weren't filling us
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: in on like what happened. So I found myself being like,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: what are they even talking about? Oh, I know. It
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: was really disappointing as a fan. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I wish I could talk to you about this. It's
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of content for me.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of content.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: And I will say that because I think I've been
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: on reality TV so much that watching reality TV is
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: often not relaxing for me. So I'm like very much
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: a scripted girl because that's where I can detach and like,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you know, live in a fantasy life.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I find scripted TV show, like I have
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: to sit and focus and like watch the TV. Whereas
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: if I'm watching reality, I can like be on my phone.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I can be like doing my hair.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: But that's what I want, Tanya.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, you want to lock in. I want something where.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I put the phone down and yeah, like follow a story.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: So what are you watching right now?
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Really? Okay, the last one that I wrapped, and this
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: is how little I can watch TV right now with children,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: was Cape Fear.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I haven't even heard of that. Cape Fear?
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Cape Fear with Amy Adams and Javier Bardem. It was
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: on Apple.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Was it old?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Is it old, Mark? No, it just wrapped in the
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: middle of July.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: There was an old movie back in the late 80s
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and the 90s. Oh, I'm like, what is Ashley watching?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: They made a series just recently, yeah. Okay, okay. And
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: then I just started last night. This is mom life, Tanya.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I know the boys, the stepboys, are a little bit
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: older now. but our boys go to bed way too late.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: That's because I want them to sleep in. And I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: will usually have like an hour to watch TV at
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: night and I'll watch like a movie in three parts.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: So the other yesterday I started, this is how delayed
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I am. I started watching that movie with Nick Robinson, uh,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: voicemails from Isabel. Oh yeah.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I think, I think I'm too emotionally raw to watch that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I've been told to like stay away. Okay. But you
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: watch it three different nights.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: We do like now my step-sons, one of them still
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: likes to watch TV with us. One of them wants
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: nothing to do at night with us. Um, but we
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: still like, they still go to bed an hour before
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: we do. So we have like an hour note. to
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: watch at night at least. And then we have them 50%
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of the time. So 50% of the time we can
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: watch however much we want.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: See the weekends that you don't have them. Like I
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: imagine that you could just binge watch TV and I
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: haven't been able to do that for four and a
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: half years.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I think about this too, because obviously like we're,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: we're trying to have our own and I'm like, I can't,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: it's so weird imagining having kids a hundred percent of
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the time because we have them 50% of the time.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: And it is, it's true. Like Robbie doesn't like to
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: make plans when we have the kids in terms of like,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to like go out to dinner with
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: friends when we have them, like get a babysitter because
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: we only have them 50%. Yeah. So when we have them,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: we have them and we're home. And then when we
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: don't have them, that's when we make all of our
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: plans with like our friends. So like, we're like socializing
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: when we don't, we're doing all this stuff that, you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: going out. So we really don't have that much time
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to like sit and binge and just like do nothing
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: because like, We stack it on both sides.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Jared and I feel guilty because, you know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: when we have our nanny during the day until like
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: 930 to 530, then when we would feel so bad
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: to get a baby, we do feel bad. We do
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: it like once a month. But to have a babysitter
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: on a Saturday night or on a weekday night where
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: that extends our time not with them. Like we really
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: feel like outside of work hours, we should constantly be
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: with them. Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And like we'll do it if like there's a huge
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: like if there's a banquet that we need to go
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: to or like a friend's birthday. Like, you know, if
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: there's something like important, it's like that day and it's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: a big thing, then we'll do it. But if it's
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: just like dinner with friends or like catching up with people,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: we always do that on the days that we don't
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: have them.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel you.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, speaking of kids, there are a couple of
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: things that you talked about that are like very hot
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: topics that I want to get into, but I want
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to take a quick break. We're back.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: We're back.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: We're back, baby.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: So there are two things that you have recently talked. Well,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if recently, but think two things that
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you've talked about that I feel like are very controversial. One,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: one I agree with and when I absolutely don't agree with.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: So the first one is birthday parties for your kids
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: are a waste of money before they turn two.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. You don't agree with this.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This is definitely something I can see both sides of.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: So walk me through your rationale.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Okay. So I just don't think that I think the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: birthday party is for the, obviously the parent.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, but you're the parent.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't need that. Like, I just don't
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: need all my friends to get together to, I don't know.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I think it just seems like such a hassle when
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: it's for the parent and it, cause I don't want it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Like I don't want to put together, but that makes
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: me feel guilty because now you're saying like, you don't
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: want to celebrate your kid. No, it's like, I want
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: to celebrate my kid, but I want to celebrate them
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: doing what they would want to do, which is like
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: probably just going to like Chucky's instead of like going,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: having like a zillion people over for, a zillion people
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: over with a house or like someplace that they wouldn't
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: actually care about going.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do think there's like a middle ground.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: There's so when Dawson was going to turn 30, he
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: said he like very much said i want a chucky
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: cheese birthday party and then we were like oh my
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: gosh of course i'll out have all the friends come
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: like our friends too and it was so much fun
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: and i loved it but we if for his second birthday,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: you know, when they're barely speaking and when Hayden, you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: still like not a lot of talking, we were like,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: what do we do today? And we just like did
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: a family day where we went to the mall and
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: like they rode like the carousel and then like these
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: little motorcycles they have at the mall. And then we
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: went to a family dinner and then like we set
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: up Aladdin themed party stuff and had cupcakes with the family.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: That's cute.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's not like that I don't celebrate
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: the kid's birthday. It's just that I don't plan, I
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: didn't plan birthday parties for both of their second, first
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and second birthdays.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, I understood. I do feel like there's a little
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: bit of like a phenomenon right now where people just
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: like blow out the first birthday parties and they do
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: like a full thing, which I do feel like is
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: a waste of money. And I also feel like, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you can tell me because I'm like, When you have
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: kids and you throw a party, do you invite your
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: friends that don't have kids?
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. I think that if Jared and
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I had more friends.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: With kids.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: When the kids were one and two, particularly Dawson, because
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I feel like now with Hayden, we have kids. We
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: have more friends that have kids. But when Dawson was
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: turning one and two, it was like the kids... The
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: kids of our friends were, like, just not amongst the
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: same age group as him. Like, it wasn't like they
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: were going to get together and play at this party. Yeah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, it just didn't make any sense.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: You were going to have a whole bunch of people
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: and a lot of them weren't going to have babies.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It's like, hey, nine-year-old, do you want to come to
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: a baby's birthday party? Like, I don't know. No. Or, hey,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: people who don't have kids, do you want to go
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: to a one-year-old's birthday party?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Like, no, I never want to go to a one-year-old's
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: birthday party unless it's like a family member. Like, I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: just don't.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So I think we're trying to save other people
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: from the hassle as well. Yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: The second thing that you were talking about was, and
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: this might be a little sensitive, I don't know, but
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: gender disappointment.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. No, I mean, I don't care. We could
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: talk up the wazoo about this.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: But I think it's like a very real thing because
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I also had a friend that experienced this as well.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: And I think that there's like, and this is why
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I don't really talk so much about my fertility stuff
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: that's going on because I think that, people get so sensitive.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Like if I say I'm like, you know, I've been
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: trying for over a year and then somebody's like, well,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I've been trying for six years and I've been doing this.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: And it's, there's so much of that, that it's like hard.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: You don't want to say something wrong. That's going to
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: like upset somebody. Cause it's true. Like you talk about
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: gender disappointment, people are like, well, you should just be
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: happy that you have a healthy baby. I've been struggling
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and dah, dah, dah. But it's like, that is like
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a real emotion that people go through and people feel,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: and there is space for all of those things.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. That, um, it was like when I was, when
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I had hyperemesis gravidarium with hate it with Dawson. So
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I had the thing where I basically couldn't keep down
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: any water. So I was on my V for like
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: 16 weeks. So my first trimester with Dawson, and then
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I was without Zofran. I could throw up like pretty
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: much every day. through 30 weeks. And I was on
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Zofran for so many of the days and it was just,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: you know, traumatic. It was honestly a traumatic pregnancy. I mean,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I also traumatic is a word that I don't want
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: to like throw around either, but it was like really,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: really tough. Imagine having the stomach bug for 30 weeks.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah. So, um, when I
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: would talk about that, I was always kind of careful too,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: because I didn't want to overdo it because then people
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: are like, I would kill to be pregnant and I'd
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: be throwing up every day. Like I'm okay. I would
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: take that to be pregnant. So I totally understand. There's
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: so much sensitivity talking about anything when it comes to fertility, pregnancy, postpartum.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: And gender.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: And gender. So, um, here's my take. And I mean,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I get messages all the time that say like, you're
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: going to try for the third. You guys need a girl.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: You guys need a girl. So many people will tell
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: you like, you're not complete until you have a daughter. Really? Yeah.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of people are like, you'll never, like
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: you won't understand or blah, blah, blah. And I'm like,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I am so perfectly content with having two boys. And
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I actually didn't think I would be that way because...
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: especially when I found out that Dawson was a boy
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: because I always really wanted only two kids, but I
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: always wanted sisters too, because I came from a place
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: where I was, I am like a Siamese twin with
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: my sister. She's on FaceTime like five times a day. Um,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: so when I found out that Dawson wasn't going to
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: be a girl, then I was like, Oh my gosh,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like not going to have sisters. And that was
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: kind of like, Oh, And then all the daydreams of
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: me going to American Girl doll and playing dress up
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: and taking her to boy band concerts the way that
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: my mom took us was like out the window. So
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I felt that more before I had, when I found
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: out Dawson, the first was a boy. And then when
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I found out Hayden was a boy after coming to
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: know what it was like having a boy, and how
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: absolutely angelic he is and how much they're obsessed with
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: their moms and just like how fulfilling it is to
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: have a boy. I was a lot less disappointed when
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I found out that Hayden was going to be a boy.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't really care so much there. I had like
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: a moment. I mean, when I mean a moment, it
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: was like 10 minutes of being like, wow, I'm just
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: never going to be a mom to a girl. That's
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: so crazy because you imagine it your whole life.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your whole life.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: And it's, like, fun. It's, like, sad. It's sad, honestly,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: because there's barely ever any gender disappointment when it comes
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: to girls. Like, because the mom always wants a girl, right? Yeah.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: It's the dads that, like, feel like sometimes they need
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: a boy. Right. But male gender disappointment, dad gender disappointment
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: is never talked about.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: You're so right, actually, now that I think about it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: It is interesting, though, like, seeing, like.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: From a different perspective, because my stepkids are a little
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: bit older, like they're so chill, like the boys, you know,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: like they're not in that rambunctious phase. Like they're just
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: like chill. And I see the girls and they're great.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: And like, they're going to like Starbucks and Sephora. And
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my gosh, that would, that would
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: like send me.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: It swaps for sure. Because if you talk to anybody
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: who has like a preteen girl, they look at you
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: with boys and they're like, wow, you guys are going to,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: you're having your hard era now and then you're going
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: to be happy later. I was never like that girl though.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: You know, I was never a girl that was very
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: susceptible to peer pressure or whatnot. So I, I wonder
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: how our kid would turn out. I mean, it's normal
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: to be the girl of today for sure. Yeah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: But honestly, you also never know. Like you're young.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I'm, oh, Tanya.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just saying, I'm just saying right
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: now you're done. Right now you're done. But like you
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: might in like five years be like, let's just.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Five years. I would never start fresh in five years.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: You never know. I have friends. I have friends that
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: their kids are in their teens and they want another.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Wow. What do you care about having a girl or
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: a boy? If you had, I mean, you have step boys,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I would assume. Yeah, I know.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I try not to like, I try. I'm just like,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: especially with where I'm at. I'm like, just give me
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: a healthy child. Um, but because we do have two,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I have two step sons. I do think like a girl,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: you know, but then I'm like, I love my step sons.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah. boy would be cool too.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: When we got the results for the second Hayden, I
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: was so much more like concerned about health. It's so crazy.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you're just like, let's literally get the test
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: to come back. Good.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: That's literally all I want is just like happy, healthy baby.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: But then I also do like, I fantasize, fantasize about
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Robbie with like a little girl too. Cause he, even
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: though he's like such a good No. And he's such
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: a good boy dad, but.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Like he is, I can see him as.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: A girl dad at heart. Like he, he has everything
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: in him like to be a girl dad.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: So Tanya, exactly the way I feel about Jared. Cause
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like Jared and Robbie are very similar. They
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: got similar vibes. And if I were to ever try
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: for another child, like I would want him to have
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: a girl like that's the I don't even care about myself, really.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I want him to be the girl. Right. Oh, my God. Right.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Like I'm happy with either. And I know he is, too.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, I just want to I want to
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: see that Cause he's such a good dad. Like I
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: want to see it. Like just the thought of him
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: taking like a little girl to ballet class. Like I,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I can't emotional. Yeah. It'll make me cry. So I'm
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: going to move on from that so that I don't cry.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I want to just like a little bit of your
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: opinion on some of the stories that came out this week.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Billie Eilish officiates Phineas and his wife's wedding.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, cute. Didn't you officiate a wedding? Yes, I did.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Do you recommend?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: It was three years ago. I was stressed for months
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: about writing the ceremony and I'm really glad I did it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: And it was cool.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: But I feel like you don't get to enjoy as much.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Like you're stressed.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Um, No, it's like super special. You are stressed until
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: it's written. And once it's written, then you can kind
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: of chill. Cause like, I think the whole thing is
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: cause like, think about it, like the, the, the ceremony
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: and then you get to relax.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I know, but it's just like so high stress. Like
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: you can't have fun, like at the rehearsal dinner because
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: you have to like perform the next day.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there is that, you know what I mean? I would, Yeah,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: and you are like, this is the biggest moment of
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: these people's lives, and they are just giving you that
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: responsibility to make it as sentimental and romantic and storytelling
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: as possible. I think I did a good job with it,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: but that weight is on your shoulders. It was a friend.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: It wasn't like a best friend. Yeah, so that makes
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: it better, but.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: That makes it better as far as like the enjoyment
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: of the weekend goes.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to throw Robbie's name in the hat for
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Becca and Haley's wedding for him to officiate. But then
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I don't want to put that.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's on. You're going to be like
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: the best girl speech. You're going to be like the
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: bridesmaid speech. But I feel like why Robbie and not
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: you if we're going to go that route?
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Because I do think that they want a man to
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: cut up the.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Okay. Any others? Any others that are up for debate there?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: There is one other. I just don't know if she's
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: like said it. So I don't want to like speak
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: on her behalf.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Mark and Easton.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she said it or not. I
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: don't think she cares, but I don't know.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Okay. But yeah, he, Robbie, she's thrown out Robbie's name. Okay.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, he's an officiator. But I'm like, I don't know. Like,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I keep thinking if it's not going to
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: let him enjoy the wedding as much because he has
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: to be like on or I don't know if he
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: internalizes things as much as I do. You know what
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I think Robbie can handle like high
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: pressure situations and just like execute.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: That is like what I love about our husbands too,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: is they're just able to speak from the heart so eloquently.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: And I am a fangirl about it. Like whenever it
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: comes to like me explaining my heart, I'm like.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: And then, and like, and then like, he just has words.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: He has pose. He has poetry.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: When I tell you, when we give up, when we
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: stand up at Thanksgiving to give a speech to our
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: guests or whatever, I sound like such a donk. And
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Robbie stands up and is just like, he crushes it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: And I'm just like, you know what? You just get
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: up and speak for the both of us. I'm done
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: splitting this.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Same. I'm like... You are so eloquent. It's a quality
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: that I'm so glad I married into. It is.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: It's very nice. But I always feel bad on my birthday.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: His speech is always just so good. And I stand
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: up and I cry. There's this video of me giving
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: a speech on one of his birthdays. And I'm just sobbing,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: bawling my eyes out. I'm like, he would never.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: No, this is why you and I are the same
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: person in so many ways. It's like people know that
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: it's from the heart and it's endearing and such, but
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: it's just like, we're just going to cry through like
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of explanations of our feelings.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Chumbled, but cute. Yeah.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: And it's like nice to have that person like speak
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: for us, like with school things and like, you know
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get there someday. I'm just like too emotional.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Maybe I'll get better with age.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Never know. It's never too late. I love you
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: so much. And I just wanted to thank you again
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: for taking the time to scrub in because I just
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I love you. And I just like needed a light.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: A light laugh, a lighthearted laugh today.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Thanks. I'm so glad I could be of service. And
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: I also think it's great that if we take it
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: back to the roots, this podcast was founded on Grey's Anatomy.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: And it was something that you watched a very similar
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: time as I. We took it up together, kind of. Yeah.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, I rewatched it while I was
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: pregnant and sick with Dawson. And I, um, I got,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I got through a lot of hard days watching about
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: nine episodes with my mom per day. I, okay.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: So I really want to watch, I think they just
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: put it on Hulu. I think it just moved over
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: to Hulu. It's like newly on some streaming device because
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: it's been popping up in my Instagram, like some of
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: the like old clips. And I'm like the old first,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: like six seasons were such magic. I want to watch
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: those with Robbie so bad. But he's not like a
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: medical show guy.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: It just hits different. It's so amazing. I'm telling you,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: because I watched it for the first time through Becca
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: in 2005. 15, 16. And then like, because I, it
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: was actually so long, it was like seven years later,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: six years later, I got pregnant with Dawson and then
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I rewatched it and it completely like Would take me
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: out of the nausea that I was experiencing because I
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: got so wrapped up in the storyline again. And it
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: was comfortable because I had already known the characters. Yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: But I forgot the detailed storylines. And that's what I'm saying.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's been so long since I've watched it. Yeah.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do that. Feels like a good thing to.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Or maybe you wait until you're pregnant.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, and do it then? Yeah. Yeah. It feels dark though,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: because I feel like some of those, some of those
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: episodes when like they like lose people, I get really emotional.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of in this phase of life right now
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: because I'm so emotionally unstable that like I cannot watch
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: anything that's going to like send me. So I'm watching again,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: like Love Island is not going to send me down
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: like a dark spiral. I'm watching a lot of, food network,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: like chopped and barbecue brawl. Cause that's like light.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I just want to go eat now. Yeah.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Like I try and just watch things that are like very,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: just like light, funny. I can't do the hard stuff
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: That's like, I don't watch that. What's that? Sorry. I
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: know we're wrapping this up, but what's that HBO show
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: where everybody loves the medical one, the pit, the pit. Like,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think I can watch the pit now that
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I'm a mom.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I can't do that stuff. That's not relaxing.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: That's not going to I'm not going to put that
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: on for my hour of TV time and be like, oh, yeah,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: let's unwind to like a child in the ER.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, did you ever watch Adolescence? That was like
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: a huge show. And Robbie was like, I just can't
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: like I was like a 12 year old boy. And
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: like he was just like, I can't I can't watch it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, no. I need like light
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: and breezy right now.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: You were talking about how you had me on because
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I'm light and breezy. And then we were like, yeah,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: medical dramas about death. Let's wrap it like this.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I love you so, so much.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I love you so, so much.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Is there anything that we can tell everybody if they
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: want to listen to more of Ashley? You can listen
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: to the Almost Famous podcast.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Gotta listen to the Almost Famous podcast. We talk about
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of things on there, not just Bachelor stuff,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: but you know, a lot of Bachelor stuff. And poor
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Ben is like recapping Housewives things now because that's where
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I'm at.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: You can also watch Ashley on The Real Housewives of
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Rhode Island.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Which, you know, I don't know if I'm on it
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: or not, but it'll.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Come out again. The last season. Can't you just, can't
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: you watch those?
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: You can watch that. Yeah, of course, on Peacock.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: And it has been renewed for season two, which is awesome.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: And then just follow me on Instagram for all like
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: the mom content. That's what I really love doing, creating
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: the mom content. It's Ashley underscore Ikenetti.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Awesome. Ashley, I love you. Love you.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Love you so much.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Please come back to this coast.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I'll see you. You know that I'll see you. I
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: told you. Come to another East Coast Jonah show. We'll
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: have a blast again in December.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: There's no chance you'd come to their LA show?
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: No, of course there is. Of course there is. I'm
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: sure I'll be there. Figure it all out. All right.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Love you, Ashley. Love you. Bye.