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Red-Hot Prospects: Poirier, Nystrom, Robidas, Morrow & Nadeau Ignite the Rink! · stormTRacker Podcast | Carolina Hurricanes & NHL Hockey

• 0:33
  Speaker 1: Well, january was another great month for Carolina Hurricanes prospects right around the globe, whether they were in the American Hockey League, in the Eastern Coast Hockey League, or playing in Europe or even the college ranks.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: They're really getting it done.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: And, as usual, to talk about the top five prospects of the month for, in this case, january, I'm delighted to be joined by our prospect guru, of course, nick Bass.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: Nick, welcome.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: Hi, I'm happy to be back.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, another big month for the prospects.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: The same guys seem to be continuing to play well and we're going to hear about a couple of new ones, I think this month as well.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: Kicking it off at number five is a guy that you like a lot.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: He was, if you might recall, he was the first 17-year-old to produce 50 goals in the Quebec Major Junior League since Sidney Crosby, so this guy has got a great pedigree.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: He's off to a huge start.
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: He's got 36 goals and 30 assists in just 45 games.
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: Of course that's Justin Poirier.
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a really good month.
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: He was a big reason for Drakkar winning a lot of games because he was primarily involved in a lot of their production.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: I still think he hits 50 this year.
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be really close, but it I think there's a better chance than not that he does still hit 50 goals, which would be the first time in a very long time that a kid's gone back to back 50 goals.
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: The one thing that will forever worry me, at least right now, is skating.
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: Realistically, I'm not too worried about his size.
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: His size he's shown and he is told.
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: Whenever I was at camp prospect development camp in the summer, he told me he doesn't, he has no issue with his size.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: He doesn't see it.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: He sees it as an advantage because he can use his frame to still just beat people, and he does consistently.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: He'll have guys that are, you know, a few inches taller than him and he's still going around them.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: He's still bodying them off the puck and maintaining possession.
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: Um torre had a really good month.
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: Uh, his shot is obviously his shot.
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: It's incredible and uh, yeah, it was a pretty good month of january for him yeah, and I think I remember darren york was a pretty complimentary about, uh, justin's shot of.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: He said he can just score, and we've seen that numerous times in the highlights.
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so another great month for Justin and I'm kind of with you.
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to hit 50 again.
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: He's definitely tracking that way, I think the last 13 games, as you might have mentioned, he had nine goals, so he's definitely on a tear and he looks like he's going to hit that 50 mark again.
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: In any case, coming in at number four is kind of a newcomer to our discussions, to a large extent Defenseman.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: He checks in at 5'9 and 160.
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: Sorry, 6'2, actually and 174, and that's Joel Nystrom Nystrom playing with Fargestad in the Swedish Hockey League.
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: He's off to a pretty good start.
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: He's got 23 points his first 40 games.
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: Can you tell us about Joel?
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nystrom, I'll still mess up that pronunciation from time to time.
• 3:52
  Speaker 2: He's awesome, Nystrom, I'll still mess up that pronunciation from time to time.
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, he's awesome.
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: He's been in a very big role with Fargestad for the past two-ish years.
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: He's kind of been fluctuating as a top four guy, top pairing guy.
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: He was really instrumental in them going to the Champions Hockey League final which is coming up in a few days.
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: I will probably have something about that, just to get attention, because I think you can't watch it for free.
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: Um, but he's awesome.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: The offense is fine, is like pushing a lot further than people expected, which is always good.
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: The defensive side was never really a worry.
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: Uh, he's a true two-way defenseman.
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: His skating is unbelievable.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: Um, another thing that I remember about development camp was that neistrom normally led these drills like skating drills, because he would yeah, he would show it.
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: He would do it perfectly the first time and then if somebody needed help, they would just go hey, you do it and show him.
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: Uh, he's sick, um.
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: One note about that is uh, recently luke de kock did a podcast with Joe and Joe, their local media, in the Triangle and mentioned that.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, I've heard those guys.
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: Joel Nystrom will be in North America next season.
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: His contract runs out with Farjestad after this season and he will come over to North America since he's already signed an entry-level contract.
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: So expect him to play to be like a fringe NHL guy, but more than likely play with the Wolves next year.
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nystrom, you know he and Noel Fronson another one over there seem to be really developing well and quietly not hearing a lot about them here in North America.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: So you know he continues to add to that offensive mix of just incredibly talented defensemen.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to keep all these defensemen and we're going to get a chance to talk about a few more during the conversation today, but this is great news to see that Nystrom is heading to North America.
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: The next guy up is a guy that I am really excited about.
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: I think he's starting to make a case to be a potential NHL-er at some point in the future and I think this is a bit of a surprise.
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: A smaller player checks in at 5'8 and 175.
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: He's been red hot with the Chicago Wolves.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: He's now got 31 points in 40 games, so he's definitely on a tear.
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: That's justin robita yeah, justin robita is sick.
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: Um matt, and I talk about it a lot, but we are just we're gigantic fans of robita because it he's just an insane player to watch.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: If you ever get a chance to watch all those games, you will see 93.
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: That it's the number he wears and he's just everywhere on the ice.
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: He's power play, he's penalty, he's one of the first penalty killers.
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: He's, you know, top line center as of right now, because suzuki was was up with the hurricanes uh he was, and he was also playing wing as well.
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: He's been everywhere and he's been just exceptional, and I don't think enough people recognize that this is his first season in the ahl last season at the echl level.
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: He he was doing great, he was having an awesome season and then got hurt like late january, early february, and cut his season short.
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: Now he's playing in the ahl, he's fully healthy and he's top I think I want to say he's top five in ahl rookie scoring, which for a player like him, who was like a fifth, sixth, seventh round pick, a later round traffic and obviously his smaller frame is not, you know, it's not typical of something like that.
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: Um, and you know, man, I've like, I've discussed in the past of like he has a genuine nhl future as like a great bottom six forward.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: You can you can play him at center, you can play him a wing because he's winning face-offs, but he's also doing great work on the wing.
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: He has a genuine NHL future.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: I doubt anything this year, but definitely within the next year or two I definitely think Robitaille will play in his first NHL game.
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel the same way and that's why I kind of started saying I think he's got a future in the NHL.
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: They did it right.
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: He went to the ECHL last year.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: He got a chance to kind of cut his teeth in a league outside of junior and I think it worked well for him and he is leading the Chicago Wolves in scoring right now.
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: So I mean that's quite a statement for this youngster and as you say and again I've seen this repeatedly he's in all situations.
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: He's good in the face-off Dodd, he's very strong killing penalties and, of course, he's dangerous on the power play.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: And, as we watch a lot of the highlights of Roby Dodd, he's magic on the ice.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: He sees the ice extremely well for a little man and I'll tell you he's impressive.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: So, and I'll tell you he's impressive, so I'm hoping that you know, as you look forward to some of the challenges the Canes are going to have.
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: One of them is center ice.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: As we know, the development of centers hasn't been a hallmark for the Canes in recent years.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: So he's definitely got an opportunity, I think, to be in consideration in the coming years with the Canes.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: So it's good stuff.
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: Next guy, of course, boy.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: Not too much needed to say about this guy.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: He's been on a tear with Chicago as well and again, he's a guy, that boy.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: When you talk about this player, here's what McKean said about him and I think it kind of says it well he has sublime all directions skating ability, crisp puck skills and a big shot from the point.
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: That's pretty easy to figure out who that guy is, and of course that's scott moore yeah, I just really quickly wanted to touch on that, that center comment, because, in complete honesty, I don't really think it's fair.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: Um, if we go back to 2020, they drafted two technical centers One was Panamara, who was traded for Gensel, and then the other one was Mercuri, who's still in college.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, 2020, we had Robida, who is still a center, but also has flexed out to the wing, nikita Kuzlitsov, who is in the second division of Russian hockey and has kind of fluctuated, but he's also on the wing now and then v, like coivinan, who has traded for genzel, but he also is now just a full time winner yeah
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: and then in the past two, past three drafts, it looks like they haven't taken a single center.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: So it's I wouldn't say it's necessarily a development thing.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: It's something that I've definitely tried to talk about a lot.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: More is just that unless you're drafting high in the draft, unless you take it in like the first three pick, like your first three picks, you're not going to get a center, you're not going to get a good one anyways, you're going to get a guy that has a long shot.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: But yeah, scott Morrow is awesome.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: Obviously now he's with the Hurricanes just for a little bit of time.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: I would assume.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: He's taken over the blue line in Chicago.
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: He's been their number one guy all year.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: He's averaging around 20 minutes a night.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: He's getting penalty kill time, he's getting power play time.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: He's doing everything right and everything is starting to mesh.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: Everything is starting to come together.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: The offense is obviously still there.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: He's transitioning the puck really well.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: He's moving it, it crisply and he's moving with the puck a lot better.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: The skating is still kind of eh, but it's definitely good enough to get him.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: Get him by at the nhl level and the biggest thing is the defense and recognizing plays.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: Um andrew rinaldi had a great uh video of just like the best scott morrow you could imagine, which was him jumping play, breaking it up, taking in transition, going around our team left off who was the second overall pick last year, and drawing a penalty.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: It was the perfect encapsulation of what Morrow has done a lot better this year, as well as combining what he already knows.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, scott Morrow has been awesome.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: I'm glad to see him get an NHL opportunity this year and you know, if it's not this year he's a full-time NHL guy.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: It's definitely going to be next year.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to make for an interesting situation on the blue line for the Hurricanes, because if they've got Scott coming in and it looks like he's definitely getting closer and of course, Alexander and Keisha, they're going to have two low-cost guys on the blue who are outstanding prospects.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting.
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: Rod Brindamore, you know, when we're trying to figure out why is Scott Morrow up with the team, and particularly when he was due to go and play in the AHL All-Star game, Rod Brindamore said really what it is.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: He's getting better.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: I watched him from the start of the season to now his games and he's getting better.
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: I watched him from the start of the season to now his games and he's getting better and better.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: And so we heard some of that in the broadcast as well the other night and they talked a little bit about the fact that, uh, you know just, the development of scott this year has been just incredible.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: Uh, with some outstanding coaching in chicago and this kind of plays.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Back to something we've talked a lot about too, nick, is is having Chicago as an AHL you know affiliate and a team where they can actually send players and have them grooming in the second best league in North America is fantastic and it's really working well.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: For Morrill, I think he's showing a lot different from last year.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember watching him in the two games he played at the end of the season last year, but this looks like a different player and, of course, as you mentioned, he's always had the offensive skill.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Now he's building a very strong defensive game as well.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: So that's great news.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: On Scott Moore, We'll have to watch and see how this plays out and whether it's because there's a little break, or it was a break with Chicago, or whether or not the Canes are thinking they want to see more of Scott.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: We're going to have to follow that closely as things go along, and I'm sure that the folks watching the Wolves, and certainly the Wolves players, are hoping Scott's going to be back there soon because he's a huge part of their team.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: One other thing I was going to mention about Scott recently he's been teaming with Dominic Fensori and that's an interesting combination.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on that.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was because Ronan Seeley got hurt for a game or two and they just put Fensori up because he had him on the second pair.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: Either that or just Fensori has been playing incredibly and they wanted to reward him.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the pair as a whole has been really, really, really good.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Both of them have definitely improved their defensive games to a level to where they can play with each other and still be really respectable.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: It's like instant transition threat because Fensore's offense is undeniable and his skating is better than Moro.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: So if Fensore gets the puck he's elite in transition.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: If Morrow gets the puck, he can take it.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: But both of their defensive games have come around so much to where you have the ability to play them together and they've been a really solid top pair in the AHL.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's an interesting thought when you kind of reflect that both Dominic and Scott are offense-first guys that's what they're known for and really driving the offense.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: I've always been impressed with Dominic Pensori.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that sees the ice extremely well and it's going to be exciting to see those two together if they can continue to have a chance to do that because both of them are outstanding talents and will be pressing for positions with the Canes in the future.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Number one this guy just came back from the World Juniors in Canada.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Wasn't particularly excited about what happened.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Of course Team Canada was knocked out, so it wasn't a great situation for him, but he has been on a tear of late, and that's Bradley.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Nadeau.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the biggest thing with Nadeau has been his play off the puck one.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: He's seeing everything a lot better and he's making anticipated moves toward places.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: He and Ryan Suzuki had multiple two-on-ones to which they would score and especially on there was a goal this past weekend that it was a scott morrow backdoor cross ice to nadeau and it was just perfectly placed and the dough was in the right spot and it went in the back of the net because he's a great shooter as well.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Nadeau, with the puck on his stick, is not just always and he never has been a player that is just I'm going to shoot the puck as soon as I get it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: He's letting before the world juniors and kind of before this little break.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Nadeau would not anticipate fully.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: He would get the puck, wait a second, think about what he wanted to do and then tried it.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Right now Nadeau is.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: His confidence is so high and his ability is coming back.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: They're starting to finally translate, maybe that he is able to.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: As soon as he gets the puck, he knows what he wants to do with it and then obviously it's leading to a lot more success at the AHL level, seen by his goal total, his point total and, yeah, his shot is just crazy.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's something I don't see that often.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Nadeau's shot is just unbelievable.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i's something I don't see that often.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Nadeau's shot is just unbelievable.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've seen some of his recent goals too, nick, and he's picking corners like incredible.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: And, you know, obviously we knew that he could wire it when he opens up on that left side and fires.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: But he's been showing a different skill and really showing that he's got a goal scorer's touch.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: So great to see.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: He's rounding out his game.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: He's getting confidence like crazy right now.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: And that seems to be kind of an interesting development with some of these guys in Chicago is that, you know, after a half of a season that they've, you know, had some pretty substantial coaching and, I think, some great coaching in chicago, uh, are really starting to to show what they can do and, of course, they've been on a tear as a team.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: They've been playing extremely well of latest as well.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: So, uh, great to see all of that.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Um Nadeau, I think he's a future Kane too, so we'll keep watching him.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Looks like he's on track to maybe 25, 30 goals this year, so that's going to be a nice rookie season for him in the American Hockey League for sure.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And I know you've got a good feeling about Nadeau as well, as you've met him, and he's a great guy too, a great young kid.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Nicest kid, I swear, and his family is super nice.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Um, I think I've told this story, but I went for to go to a umass main game last season.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Um, whenever nadeau, moral, mercury were all there and I got to meet a lot of nadeau's family because it was the last weekend of the season or like second to last weekend.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I think it was their last weekend of the season or like second to last weekend.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I think it was their senior day, but they just brought in a lot of family.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: His family is just super nice and he himself is just a super humble guy, like he knows what he has, but he's not going to just brag and show it off.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: He's very just, down-to-earth, calm, just one of the nicest people you'll ever talk to.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I can't speak highly enough of Nadeau as just a person and a player.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that fits quite nicely with the Hurricanes philosophy as well.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I was on a podcast recently with Shane Willis and he was talking about the type of young players that the Canes want, the players they want on their team, and exactly what you're saying about Nadeau is right on to what he was saying as well.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: So let's take a look now at the honorable mentions for the month, and I know you've got some interesting ones.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: First on the list, of course, is a guy that I was a little surprised when he was sent down to Bloomington.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: The AHL Wolves decided to keep Ruslan Kazeev as the backup goaltender and sent Yannick Peretz down to Bloomington.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Peretz, of course, had played in the ECHL last year with Norfolk, so he knows that league, but he apparently has been on fire.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: What can you talk about, yannick?
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I would say the Wolves keep Kazaev up for the fact that you know the kid's fresh over from Russia and sending him to a team that maybe has like one Russian and not a lot in rural Midwest is probably not the best thing.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Plus, you want the guy who's 19-, 20, who just came over from a junior league, to probably stay with the goalie coach they have in Chicago.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I forget his name off the top of my head Stan DeBincky.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you want him to get the most consistent coaching you can from a guy like that there's nothing against Yanni Peretz as well.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: He's been stellar since going to Bloomington this year.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I can't say I've watched a ton of Bloomington games just because, you know, the opportunity has just never arisen.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Sure, even if I wanted to.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I think they played their last game at like 1030 am and I'm in class at that point.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I can't, I can't watch that.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: So but Peretz has been really good and the ECHchl level is not like it's not bad at all.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: It's still a good league, it's still a very respectable league and to see him in his second echl season the year-over-year growth is obviously a very positive thing.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Um, I'd love to see him get back up with the uh wolves, but at that same point.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: If he get back up with the Wolves, but at that same point, if he's back up with the Wolves, that means there's probably some goal issues at a higher level and honestly, I don't want to deal with that again.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: We didn't have a lot of fun with some of the challenges that Gaines had in goaltending.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yannick Peretz, to me, has always been very interesting.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I'd seen him in the you know, the Southeast showcase games that you know for the prospect tourneys that he was in the last couple of years and he looked good.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And, of course, he had a tremendous career with Quinnipiac.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: He was outstanding when they won the championship.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: So he's definitely got, you know, some capability there and we just you know some capability there and we're just, you know, waiting to see how that's going to play out.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about him.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure where he fits in the Canes' future, but I do, like Peretz, I think he's a talented goaltender.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Another one of the guys that I watched a fair bit in the Frozen Four last year, the pre-series, was Lucas Mercury, and he's a guy that I know you want to talk about.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Lucas, to me, is a big guy.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: He plays a heavy game.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: He reminded me a little bit about Jordan Stahl.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I've said that a few times.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: He seems to be that kind of a player, but it looks like he's adding a bit of an offensive touch now as well.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: What's going on with Lucas?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: He's gigantic, he's physical, he knows how to use his body, he's doing everything and he's been the 1C for UMass for a little bit now.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: He's getting around like 18, 19 minutes a night and he's doing incredibly well in those minutes With Mercury.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I'm really interested to see what happens with him, because this is the year the Canes have to sign him.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: They lose his rights in the summer of 25.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Um, and there's definitely a way I haven't mentioned this besides, uh, someone else.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: There's definitely a way for him to get a, an entry level contract, for the sole reason that the Canes' organizational depth at center is so not there, they haven't drafted many, as I mentioned earlier.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: So there's definitely a way in which he gets signed and he's definitely I think it's almost not guaranteed, because nothing is guaranteed but he's probably going to be a really decent AHL player because with guys like him, they're just big bodied and they can skate decently well and if they know how to play their role, there's always going to be a role for them somewhere.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, mercury had a really good month of January.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Hopefully UMass does get out of a really, really hard hockey East and they make it to the tournament again, because I think that's when you'll see the gear even get turned up again.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as I say, when I watched him in the playoffs last year I heard the Frozen Four games.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I thought he was very, very strong.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: So again, a player that brings size.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: He can skate.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: He plays a heavy game.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: He looks like he's pretty good in the faceoff dot as well.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: So again, a player that we're going to keep an eye on for sure.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: The next player we haven't heard a lot about this guy is Alexander Paravolov.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Next on the honorable mentions, I want to say a couple things about Alexander.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Corey Prondman of the Athletics said this about him Paravolov can make a lot of good things happen with the puck.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: He has excellent stick skills, showing consistent ability to beat checks one-on-one and create inside the offensive zone with a stick handling.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: So he's a guy that's very highly thought of.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I read a number of different reports on him when he was drafted, I think in the third round.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: He's a guy that a lot of folks really liked.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: What's going on with Alexander?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I think for one thing now is just that he's healthy.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I had to pull up his things, but I mean he didn't play.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: 39 games in 23.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: He played I mean that's 25 or 24 games last year and this year he's played uh 34, so he's already on pace to play his most games in the past two years.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Um, health was is a big concern.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Obviously.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: It's kind of tough to see guys that just go down.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: The skill is there.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: There's no denying that he has genuine skill.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: The thing is, can he stay healthy and can the whole game develop?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Because he's already been moved once at the VHL level because the coaches didn't trust him.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: So with his new team he's doing great.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: He has eight points in 13 games and that is including a game today.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: He's doing fine.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: With the new team, he's doing great.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: He has eight points in 13 games and that is including a game today.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: He's doing fine with the new team.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Now it's just now a fact of can he continue having success with the team so that you know the coaches continue to trust him.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't hate the kid, obviously, but I need him to stay healthy and I need him to continue playing as he has, and then people will be able to get a better read on him as a player.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Sounds a bit like Alexander Rykov.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, similar story right.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Kind of Rykov still has been healthier than Pervailov over the past few seasons, though, okay.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so we'll keep an eye on him.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Again, he's another one of the fine Russians that were drafted a little later than some folks expected, so we'll see how his development continues in Russia.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, the final person we'll talk to on the honorable mentions, he seems like he's discussed almost every month on, uh, some of our discussions, and that would be, of course, ryan suzuki.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Suzuki's played very well.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: We actually saw him get a cup of coffee with the hurricanes playing a couple of games.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: What can you tell us about ryan?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: uh, I kind of just there's not really much to to talk with Suzuki anymore.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, everybody knows the skill he has, the talent he has.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: He's an exceptional playmaker.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: He skates well, he defends well.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, you saw he saved a goal at the NHL level with a clearance.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: He was now again small sample size, but 57.5% in the face-off circle, which you know, that's decently good, that's pretty strong.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Not strong because circle, which you know, that's decently good, that's pretty strong.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Not strong because he is getting, you know, the fourth-line matchup At the same point.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: It's still not bad Anytime you have a guy averaging over, I think like 52, 53, is good for his center.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I'm glad to see him get called up.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: That was the big thing.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: That was a very not surreal moment for me because that kind of sounds vain.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: But Matt and I and I keep continuing to say Matt and I, because I talk with him a lot it's very easy for me to just combine me and him, but we have just discussed there comes to a point where you have to try him, you have to give him a game because he's healthy and he's playing really well and I'm glad to see him get that moment.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I think his parents were obviously a lot happier.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: His dad, rob, is hilarious because as soon as Suzuki got called up and they said he was going to play, he tweeted out a little image that just said House divided and there was the Canadian logos on one side and the Hurricanes logo on the other.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I about lost it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: But Suzuki's good, I think he.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I would love to see him get called up again, but unless Andrees happens, it's not going to happen because they still have Tyson Yost that is at the NHL level, just hurt.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: So I'm interested to see this coming weekend when the Wolves play again.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I want to see if he continues to keep playing at that level that I've seen from this past year and if he does, then I think he's an NHL player.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I've said it a few times, but I think he showed he's an NHL player.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: It's just.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Will he get another opportunity to show that he's an NHL player with the Hurricanes?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and interestingly enough they decided to go with Juha Jaska at center for a number of games.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Well, tyson Jost has been out.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping they would bring Suzuki up and they finally did, and he got a chance to play a couple of games.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: As I mentioned, he didn't look out of place.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: He didn't really distinguish himself, but he didn't look out of place, so that was fine.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: So we'll see, but he's definitely having an outstanding season in Chicago and we'll look forward to seeing how he continues to develop as well.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: So, some interesting folks on the honorable mentions this month.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, any other folks, uh, before we talk about, uh, the alexander nikishin watch um, I guess I, um, I think I expanded on it.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I haven't actually expanded on, but the wolves blue line next year is going to be really weird.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be maybe not drastically different, but I definitely think it's going to be different comparatively to this year Because I would assume there's a few changes that are going to happen there.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Obviously it's not confirmed, but it's kind of a very badly kept secret because you know contract run out, you have them already on an entry level contract.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: You know it's very easy.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: So, and especially with european players, they have to play out the remainder of their contract before they come over.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: So nystrom will be in the ahl next year.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nhl, wherever, whatever they can figure out.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Um, if you go off the assumption that scott morrow gets a full-time job next year, he, he's not going to be there anymore.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Right, and it kind of depends on their free agents and some other things If Vladimir Grudinin comes over this year if another guy or two want to come over this year.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: What about Noah?
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Fronson, I doubt it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think that one's going to happen.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I think he'll probably stay in Sweden or try and find something else, but I don't think.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: AHL is happening, at least for the next few years.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: It's just going to look really different.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And then the only other guy would be the guy you just mentioned, rykoff.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: He's back with the AHL team and his first game back from injury he scored.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: He's another guy I would fully expect.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Again, nothing's confirmed, but he hasn't signed a new contract with Tractor and his draft year he said when his contract's over, he's coming over.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: So I would you know if you're writing it down in pencil.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: So I would.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I would you know.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: If you're writing it down in pencil, I would say there's a better chance than not.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Alexander Rykoff will come to North America next year.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: So he joined Gleb Trikosov on the on the walls.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: That is true as a forward, of course.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah Well, I mean, you're going to have probably three guys will be back for sure, and that would be Alexei Himasomi, dominic Pensori and, of course, charles Alexis Legault.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Those three guys should be back.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: If they have Nystrom with them, that's a good starting four, and you have to think the Canes will have, you know, one of the veterans.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe Ty Smith will be back.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: You know they'll have one or two veterans back there as well.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: So still a pretty interesting defensive core.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not denying that, I definitely think there's.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think the top four is probably just going to get random and wild, because I definitely with the top four, both Fensore and Seealy are both restricted free agents.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I forgot about Sealy.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Ronan Sealy, of course, yes, yeah.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I would say it's going to look very much so different than what we've all seen this year.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I'm excited about it, obviously, but also this decor they have.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: That's being led by Spiros Anastas, who I see as a very good coach.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: He runs the defense and he's been incredible this year.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I just think it's going to look not drastically different, it's just going to look different next year.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I know Andrew Rinaldi had a nice piece on Coach Anastas the other day, so it's kind of interesting.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, it's that time when we, uh, we talk about, uh, the alexander nikishin watch, and I know that you had some words on alexander this month as well what can you tell us about alexander nikishin?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: uh, he got hurt, he had a concussion, he missed two games and he still ended up almost a point per game.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, what more can you expect from him?
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: It's kind of I I have a big hopefully I get it done.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I actually will, but I have a big piece coming out, hopefully saturday about like nikishin's whole, whole journey and becoming the best defenseman in SKA history.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: It's because it's no white thing at this point, it's you.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Again, nothing is confirmed, nothing is official and nothing is done, but he still hasn't signed a contract.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: And obviously, when you have Eric Tolsky, go on a broadcast and broadly say, hey, this is going to happen.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: But it is rare for any team to bring in a captain, nearly a point-per-game player, in three back-to-back seasons, if you're counting this year, where he's tied for first in goals, he leads the assist category for all-time defensemen by a wide margin and he leads points by over 30.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: It's rare that that happens and it's even more rare that he's 23 years old.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: But somehow, someway, the team has lucked into the best defenseman in a franchise's history and that defenseman is 23 years old.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's insane, but yeah, he got hurt, which kind of sucked, but he was amazing this month.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I'm still going to throw caution on anybody thinking he would play this year, unless a drastic injury happens and SKA maybe gets knocked out earlier and it would have to be just the perfect storm of things happening, and I truly mean that.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Again, if he does sign, I would say next year is when you would see him first play an NHL game.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I just highly doubt anything like that would happen.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Well, a couple of things.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: So Tony D'Angelo, of course, left SKA during this period and headed off to the Islanders.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Have you seen that?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Has that been a positive thing for fornication?
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Also, left is going to be put in some heavy quotation marks because you know there's been a lot of good reporting on the reasons why he left and that's all I will say about that.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: No, he's back on the top power play unit and the power play has been dangerous.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, as well, as he's just back to playing how he normally plays and it's working out incredibly better.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: He's point productions up and everything.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Just to me, sks power play looks better now than it was a few weeks ago, so I'm not complaining no, now an interesting thing on on timing, and I know you feel very strongly that we won't see alexander in a Canes uniform this year.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: But here's timing, just so we're aware of it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: So SKA season will end on March 22nd, so they would then go into the playoffs.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Last year their playoff run was two rounds and lasted about three weeks.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: So if you took that as a bit of a kind of guideline, that would suggest that Nikishan would be available to come to North America about the middle of April and that's kind of the end of the season, the regular season in North America.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: So it's possible that he would be available as the playoffs started.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Now, as you say rightfully, it would take a lot of things to line up for him to actually see action with the Hurricanes this year.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: But I just wanted to let everybody know exactly what we're dealing with in timing and how it might affect, kind of you know, if he comes over at the end of the year or not.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, also with that, because everybody got a big taste of it last year whenever matthew mitchkoff was coming over.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Right, it takes a while, even when you know they finally get contracts sorted and you know time expires and everything like that.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: It still takes time.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Visas take forever, planes take forever, traveling takes forever like mitchkoff was done with his ska contract and all that fun little stuff.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It still took him two to three weeks to eventually get on a plane to north america and as well all khl contracts.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: They moved it back.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: All khl contracts technically do not expire until may 31st, ah, okay.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: So again, I'm not saying it physically can't happen, because nothing is ever just fully confirmed or fully set in stone, but it would still take just the the.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: It would take the world moving and moving a lot in the right direction to even think about it.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: That's why I I'm going to continue to say it, and I know people are going to get mad at me, but unfortunately it's just going to have to be a wait.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: It's you know, we're finally in the year that we're going to see him play hockey in a Cane's uniform.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Can we just celebrate that fact before we start?
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: It just got to calm down and got to wait a little bit longer.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: No, and it's okay, and I'm not suggesting anything different than that either, Nick.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: The only caveat and I think you mentioned it is that if the Canes have a significant injury on the defensive core and there's a way for them to make it work, I would not be surprised if they tried, Because of course, their plan, having made a recent move, their plan is definitely to go for the Cup this year.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we don't know, Anything can happen and, as you said also, Eric Tulsky was a little bit bullish about his expectation of getting Nikitian signed fairly quickly after he has finished playing with SKA.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: So we'll have to see A lot of moving parts.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: At this stage, the Canes' defense is solid.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Don't see a problem there, but of course things can change too.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to talk about one other thing before we wrapped up, which was the recent major blockbuster trade by the Hurricanes, and I know you've had some thoughts on that.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: The Canes, of course you know, really shocked the world with the deal to acquire Mikko Rantanen from Colorado and, of course, Taylor Hall, and gave up some pretty good pieces in Marty Natchez and Jack Drury Thoughts.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Glad they didn't include a prospect.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: That was my big thing.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: But I mean, as people have seen over the past few I guess a year, but maybe like past few months, past few weeks they have plans for these guys.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: The organization is incredible with timing.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Timing is like their contract.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Timing is just insane, like you know, if you're looking directly next year, dmitry Orlov's contract runs out when you can insert Alexander Nikitin yes, exactly.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: You're looking at Brent Burns.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: His contract runs out at the end of this year.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: You can replace him directly with Scott Morrow.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Their timing is insane With this.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I'm glad they didn't move anybody because they obviously see I mean they had today they see Morrow as a big piece going forward.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Right, bradley Nadeau is going to be a big piece going forward because he has legit 40 goal potential, which is something the Canes haven't had in a lot.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Well, haven't had in about two weeks, because now they have Mika Rantanen, obviously.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: But getting it done when using Natchez is, in my opinion, better than trying to do prospects.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: But obviously I don't think the Avalanche would have done anything for prospects because they're obviously a very win-now team For sure.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: So I was happy with it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Matt told a funny story about it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: But we were all just fine getting Taylor Hall.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: We were like, yeah, taylor Hall is cool, I like Taylor Hall, come to a new team that isn't losing all the time.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: You get re-energized, revitalized, you're happy, and then they go.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's also Miko Rantanen.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: We all just kind of went what.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: We just kind of had, this moment of like.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Does that actually say Miko Rantanen?
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, miko Rantanen's sick.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I understand people are mad because he's snakebitten and I also know people are mad because they want Jacksonake thrown off the top pairing as fast as they can.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: But um blake's like the perfect guy to play with rantanen, because rantanen's a pure goal scorer.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just a gritty goal scorer.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: And you've seen the chemistry flash.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with with blake and with aho.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: He and bl Blake is a gifted playmaker.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: So it's just one of those things of you know he just got here.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: It's been five games.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: You just got to relax Because I have seen some takes that you know are just interesting.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm glad they got it done without a prospect and I truly don't have any like maybe is that the right word, but I don't have any.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they'll sign them.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think there should be any real worry about that.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I mean tolsky said they.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: This situation is completely different than and I think people also just misconstrue jay against the densel situation entirely, because the timeline of events again, this is what from I've seen and what I understand was gensel came to them and said, hey, I want nine or eight years and I want nine million.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: If you meet that number I will sign.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: And the hurricane said, okay, I'm gonna take my time and figure this out.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: And then you waited up until the second day of the draft and then the canes came back to the table and said, okay, we'll match.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: And then obviously then at that point all the noise came out that tampa was really interested and they went yeah, I can go to tampa, okay.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Well, now I'm just gonna go to the market, see how it plays out, and then you lose them.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: This is completely different.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: You know you have almost $40 million going into free agency and you know you got Sebastian Ajo, who is one of Miko's best friends.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I think this situation is entirely different and I do think eventually they do get him signed just because they want him.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Dundon has wanted a star for years at this point and they finally have one.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're letting another one go I think yeah, I tend to agree with you too, nick and, and I don't.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I don't see it as a concern on the hurricane side they're definitely going to come up with the cash.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: They've made that clear.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: They've got lots of money.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Dundon's making lots of money with the cane, so they've got the cash.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: And they've got the of money.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Dundon's making lots of money with the Canes, so they've got the cash.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: And they've got the cap room, which was the major problem last year.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Of course, with so many free agents, both restricted and unrestricted, that they had to deal with, it was just a horrendous situation.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: But I think the biggest challenge and what we're going to be watching will be you know, can Mikko have some fun and get some goals and do what he does best?
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I think that's just the big thing.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: He's just got to get a little bit of a run going, he's got to start to feel good about his teammates and, you know, just start to feel like this is a long-term home.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: And, of course, we do know that the opportunity for the Hurricanes is different than anybody else, which is an eight-year deal, and that is a big advantage when you're Mikko Rantanen's age.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: So I'm like you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I feel pretty bullish about this.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to come together quite nicely.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: One other thing I was going to mention you mentioned Jackson Blake and yes, there's a lot of turmoil on Jackson these days.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I kind of go back and forth on whether he should be on the top line or not, but I have to say this, and you said it rightfully so he has been very effective on that top line.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: In fact, the guy that has not been effective has been Sebastian Ajo.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: In my personal view, I think the other guys have been really effective.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: What I've noticed and it's a gigantic little fun issue in the prospect world is the lack of patience shown is insane, because people want instant results.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: They want everything now.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: They want Miko Rantanen to just not falter at all, losing, you know, playing with Nathan McKinnon.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: They want him to still just be on that pace and they want Jackson Blake to be years beyond his time right now.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: They want him like three, four years in the future where he's a much more polished and refined player.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: And you know it takes time.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: These things are not, you know, they're not just like instantly.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Oh I'm here, I'm still the same.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: The exact same player playing with the exact same archetypes of player like sebastian ajo, is not nathan mckinnon.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys they're not.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: They're not the same, but they, they just want everything to just be right.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Blake has looked great on the top line.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: He's generating offense and the big thing is he forces turnovers at a extremely high rate.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: It's multiple times a game where he'll forecheck, he'll get the puck in the offensive zone and he has the playmaking ability to get the puck away and get it to somebody that might be willing to shoot.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Ie, Mikko Rantanen, and I know the big one is they want to see Jarvis moved up and I'm not against it entirely.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: I've got to get that out now.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I mean Rantan and Ajo Jarvis sounds incredible, but Seth Jarvis obviously playing third line, you know.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: But Jarvis one, he's playing awesome, even on the third line.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: He's still playing great five-on-five and he's doing great things at PK and he's doing he's on the third line.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: He's still playing great five on five and he's doing great things at PK and he's doing he's on the power play.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I had to be specific about that.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: But um, with with Blake.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't even mind seeing Jarvis up there Cause Blake in the same sheltered role that Svetchnikov had in his rookie year where he gets to play with Martin.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: No can stall he goal that Svechnikov had in his rookie year where he gets to play with Martin Nukenstahl.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: He gets two bigger guys to kind of help him and he still has good offensive moments.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: But at that same point Blake and Rantanen have shown good chemistry.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Off the jump, like Blake.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Is that goal that Rantanen just smacked the post on.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: That was going to be highlight reel and it was from Blake to Rantanen, but since it didn't go in and it was from Blake to Rantanen but since it didn't go in, people are just going to be like, oh, why is Jackson Blake still there?
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: It's like because Jackson Blake is a good player.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry it didn't go in.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Do you want the puck to just magnetize to the back of the net?
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Blake has also just been a great NHL player already and the points aren't there, but he's still doing the right things.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, he's still.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Well, he wouldn't be getting the opportunity if he wasn't.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Uh, Nick, I can assure you that he wouldn't be getting the ice time of Rod, and the crew didn't think he was, uh, you know, deserving.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and with that you know he's still five on five.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Defense is his best attribute right now, his ability to force turnovers is his best attribute, and his playmaking comes secondary right now, because he just doesn't want to make a mistake and make a stupid mistake and that's fine.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: It happens, they're young, he's 21, I'm older than him.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: It sucks but you know what, when I was watching him in his some of his collegiate action, he was dominating like he was incredible and and some of the things that I saw you know at the collegiate action he was dominating like he was incredible and and some of the things that I saw you know at the collegiate level where he controlled the puck.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: You know he, he was fearless, he would go anywhere with the puck and you know he'd go end to end, he'd do anything and you know he brings some of that same.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I think you know that fearlessness.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Uh, he's been showing that this year as well, where he'll go into the tough areas and he'll battle and he'll, you know he'll do things that uh players, you know, at his stage as a rookie, wouldn't even consider trying.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: So you gotta like that, uh, you gotta like what he's.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: You know what he's trying to get done out there and uh, and we'll just have to see how this plays out.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: But uh, I'm like you.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I think blake has certainly earned a a role with the Canes in their top nine, whether that's on the top line or back with the two dads, as Seth Jarvis would like to call Martin, who can install.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Hey, before we wrap up any closing remarks, I'm trying to think.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I mean simon forsmark still hasn't signed, even though he said he was close in a swedish newspaper.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Oscar voulet was supposed to move to hockey, all svenskin.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: He's been rumored with a move for a few weeks now.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Uh, it still hasn't happened.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I don't really know what's going on there so I i't know.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Fyodor Avramov finally played the past three games for his VHL side and he scored today, so that's fun and Andrei Krutov is really, really cool, big fan of that so we're seeing some positive signs with folks in Europe and in Russia.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: You know, we're seeing.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: We're definitely seeing some positive signs with folks in europe and in russia.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Um, you know, we we're getting a lot of information on the folks here in north america, but it's great, great for you to, you know, keep us tuned in as to what's happening to some of these players that we don't hear so much about.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: That's great, nick.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: As always, um, yeah, it's been, uh, it's been great talking hockey as always, nick.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Uh, finding out about the top five and then some of the others.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: That's always, I think, great information for all Hurricanes fans.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: And thanks again for doing that.
• 51:38
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