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The Return of the Manel with Bart Johnson, Shawn Ashmore, Colin Donnell and David Lim (Live from Epic Con Chicago!) · Scrubbing In with Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad

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  Speaker 1: Scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing it scrub.
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  Speaker 1: Dub dub with the mananal. Oh that was pretty thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got this. It's been a minute since we've
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  Speaker 2: done a Mantle.
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  Speaker 1: It has been because you know why, can I tell
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  Speaker 1: you why? Why?
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  Speaker 2: From my perspective, why, Because I'm dating a woman, and
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  Speaker 2: now that it's public, I'm like, do we need the
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  Speaker 2: men's advice? But you know, there are a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people out there still in the dating world with men,
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  Speaker 2: in the in the thick of.
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  Speaker 1: It, in the thick of it with men, and such
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  Speaker 1: as myself. Well, I'm not in the thick of it,
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  Speaker 1: but I am dating a man.
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  Speaker 2: You were engaged to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to marry a man. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: marry a man. That's so crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we were like, it's time to remake the Mantle
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  Speaker 2: and where where better to do it than at Epicon.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and we had. Let me tell you, we have
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  Speaker 1: some stacked Mantle participants today.
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  Speaker 2: And all these guys are married men in like long
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  Speaker 2: term relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we got to get to the root of
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  Speaker 1: how it all began, how it all.
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  Speaker 2: Began, And on this list, we're gonna, we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 2: to Sean Ashmore, Bar Johnson, whom we absolutely adore. H
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  Speaker 2: you know what that movie is?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: Oh it takes two?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've seen that movie.
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  Speaker 2: David Limb, yes, and Colin Donnell, who you have a.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so, no joke. I literally this was over ten
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  Speaker 1: years ago. We look at if he's gonna remember.
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  Speaker 2: Me, that is all I want. All I want is
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  Speaker 2: for him to not remember. Oh my gosh, just for
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  Speaker 2: like the discomfort of this moment, not for anyone, like
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  Speaker 2: I think you're so memorable. I think it'd be crazy
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  Speaker 2: for like the entertainment factor. It'd be so good if
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't. So we're gonna we're gonna just hit them
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  Speaker 2: with all the questions.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, and further ado, without further ado, here we go,
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  Speaker 1: let's go Mantle.
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  Speaker 2: All right, everybody, welcome Sean Ashmore. Thanks for having me,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for being here. Of course you're our first
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  Speaker 2: guest of the whole epicn.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, warm up is what you're saying?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, no, jump right in? Yeah? All right? All right?
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  Speaker 2: Do you do these often? These con fan conventions I.
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  Speaker 5: Do a few year. I actually personally really enjoy it.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a good way to kind of find
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  Speaker 5: out what stuff is working on whatever current project you're in,
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  Speaker 5: and I feel like it's yeah, I feel like you
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  Speaker 5: get a lot of comments on like well, I'm really
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  Speaker 5: loving the storyline or like this scene really worked for me.
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  Speaker 5: So I think it's kind of interesting to sort of
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  Speaker 5: hear what the audience that you're making the show, film,
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  Speaker 5: whatever you're working on is enjoying. Especially on a long
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  Speaker 5: running TV show, you can be like, oh, this stuff
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  Speaker 5: is really kind of working. It's also like a yearbook
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  Speaker 5: on your career, Like I've gotten all these bracelets that
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  Speaker 5: are just different characters over the years, and it's just
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  Speaker 5: kind of fun. Like it's just a really enjoyable kind
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  Speaker 5: of experience to hear about like what what people watched
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  Speaker 5: over the years, what really sticks with them?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm always kind of surprised.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember your first one, like first event like
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  Speaker 2: this that you came to where there was fans? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: were you like totally overwhelmed and shocked or did it
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  Speaker 2: feel that it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt good. Again, Like the.
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  Speaker 5: I look at being an actor as kind of a
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's sort of a gift. And so the
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  Speaker 5: fact that there you have a following, that's the only
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  Speaker 5: reason you can continue to do it. That there's people
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  Speaker 5: and a fan base or or people that are interested
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  Speaker 5: in the stuff that you do. So to me, that's
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  Speaker 5: kind of what I enjoy about it. Also, the first
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  Speaker 5: con I did was in Philadelphia, and it was years
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  Speaker 5: after I'd been a part of all the X Men stuff,
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  Speaker 5: so I'd kind of been used to interacting with fans
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  Speaker 5: over the years, whether it be on the street or
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  Speaker 5: at premieres or whatever, So it wasn't that overwhelming.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah wait, any way, you got these bracelets at each one,
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  Speaker 1: so that's like.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, this is this is today. That's just yeah, just
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  Speaker 4: out there. Yeah, as like, and I'm sure I'll have
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  Speaker 4: it just as a thing.
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  Speaker 5: It's become a thing the last couple of years at
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  Speaker 5: cons where people like make bracelets and like when they.
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  Speaker 4: Come to meet you, they leave you a little things.
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  Speaker 4: So these are all from the first hour they.
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  Speaker 1: Get Okay, so they give you that, and what do they.
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  Speaker 4: Say, just like, hey, I loved you okay.
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  Speaker 5: So Wesley is from The Rookie, which is the TV
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  Speaker 5: show that I'm doing right now. There's a show called
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  Speaker 5: In a Heartbeat? Was it a Disney Channel show that
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  Speaker 5: I did as a kid?
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  Speaker 4: So I got it.
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  Speaker 5: In a heart Beat one I got that's another rookie
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  Speaker 5: one Iceman from X Men brad Rigby, which was a
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  Speaker 5: Disney Channel movie I did with Hillary Duff like years ago,
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  Speaker 5: and then this one was Iceman. So just it's just
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  Speaker 5: all the stuff, like.
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  Speaker 1: A like for people that are listening. These are basically
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  Speaker 1: like Taylor Swift friendship that you get like at the
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  Speaker 1: Aras tour.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so I don't know. I always throw them
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  Speaker 4: on like a put on and it's kind of like
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  Speaker 4: a little badge at the end of the con all
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  Speaker 4: these things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like going to a festival and you have
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  Speaker 2: all your like wristbands. Yeah, that's your wristband. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 2: do you have like one project where people come up
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  Speaker 2: to you and they like freak out, like is it
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  Speaker 2: consistent with one or is it so spread out?
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  Speaker 5: So I've been I'm forty five for about to be
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  Speaker 5: forty five, but I'm been acting since I was ten,
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  Speaker 5: and so I've done a lot of projects and things shift, right.
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  Speaker 5: It's like when during the X Men years, it was
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  Speaker 5: all about the X Men. I did a show with
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  Speaker 5: Kevin Bacon called The Following that was on Fox. It
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  Speaker 5: was all about the Following. It's about the Rookie right now.
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  Speaker 5: So I feel like it's kind of whatever is most current. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but because I sort of have a library of work,
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  Speaker 5: there's there's always that recognition, and I think people really
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  Speaker 5: get excited about the first thing they saw you in.
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  Speaker 5: So I did a Nickelodeon show called Animorphs, so you know,
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  Speaker 5: I get a lot of animals. Love like Kelly is
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  Speaker 5: still a thing. So it's kind of cumulative in a way.
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  Speaker 5: But mostly it's usually about whatever you're kind of doing
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  Speaker 5: in the moment where people kind of like recognize you
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  Speaker 5: from that. But it's really kind of fun to have
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  Speaker 5: that like library of stuff and people be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'm watching the rookie, but I know you from whenever
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  Speaker 5: the thing is, you know, and I'm like, Oh, you're
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  Speaker 5: an old school fan.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That's it's so true though. You do fall in love
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  Speaker 2: with people from the first project you see them in. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like you kind of that's when you decide, like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be a fan of.
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  Speaker 5: This person, and that's what con sort of remind me
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  Speaker 5: of is like because people are like, oh, I love
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  Speaker 5: the Rookie and watching it, but I've been watching you
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  Speaker 5: since in a heartbeat animalphs Kelly and again it feels
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  Speaker 5: really awesome, and I sort of feel like I owe
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  Speaker 5: my career to an extent to the people that have
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  Speaker 5: like stuck around with you and continue to support you
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  Speaker 5: over the years.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you. Two of those people work
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  Speaker 1: on our podcast, one of them and then another one
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  Speaker 1: is listening. Her name is Crystal. They have Crystal with
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  Speaker 1: you from the beginning. Are tried and true?
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  Speaker 4: That's so awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but we do feel like you were like
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  Speaker 2: before internet boyfriend was a thing. We feel like you
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  Speaker 2: were the Internet boyfriend.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, I don't really know what internet boyfriend is.
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  Speaker 1: Explain, explain, Okay, it's just everyone everyone loves they like
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  Speaker 1: dubbed the Internet's boyfriend. So I was just like the
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  Speaker 1: Internet moment. Yeah, the moment is the Internet boyfriend right now,
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  Speaker 1: like Timothy shallon course, Yeah, the original?
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  Speaker 4: All right, right, the.
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  Speaker 2: Original, the original.
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  Speaker 5: I'll take that, man, I'll take that, and I'll move
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  Speaker 5: forward to the day feeling good about being the original.
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  Speaker 1: Internet boyfriend as you're like, bio.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't seem like.
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  Speaker 2: Scrubbing in has Originally, Oh, I.
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  Speaker 1: Wish we would have had. We should have given you
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  Speaker 1: some sort of like.
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  Speaker 2: Trophy already we got another day next time.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, you know that does it's because you've been married
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  Speaker 1: for how many years now?
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  Speaker 4: Twelve years?
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  Speaker 1: Twelve years and being that you are like the original
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  Speaker 1: internet boyfriend, is that like so weird for your wife
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  Speaker 1: to kind of just be like, my husband is this
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  Speaker 1: like boyfriend to all these.
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  Speaker 5: She's like, I don't give I don't care about any
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  Speaker 5: of that. She doesn't care.
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  Speaker 2: So we met.
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  Speaker 5: She was an assistant director for years and a producer
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  Speaker 5: for years, so she doesn't care.
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  Speaker 4: We met on a movie.
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  Speaker 5: She gets it, she's in it, and she's just like,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, she's the best, she loves me, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But whenever this kind of stuff happens, she just it's
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  Speaker 5: like an eye roll.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 5: She's like, you know, you're taking the trash out when
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  Speaker 5: you get home, and I'm like, I know, so that's just.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, mess up your bracelets, but the trash does need
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  Speaker 2: to be taken up exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the dishes need to be done, the trash. He's
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  Speaker 4: taken out time to make lunch for your son.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I am curious of what because at
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  Speaker 2: the time that you met her, was there anything about
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  Speaker 2: her I'm assuming being like a heart throb in people
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  Speaker 2: coming up to you and loving you and getting attention
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  Speaker 2: from women. What was it about your wife that set
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  Speaker 2: out that you were like, Cho's it.
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  Speaker 4: I just sort of knew.
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  Speaker 5: We met on a film and it was kind of
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  Speaker 5: like forbidden romance on the set because she was an
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  Speaker 5: assistant director like part of the crew, and it's like,
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  Speaker 5: you're not supposed to like mingle. So I think that
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  Speaker 5: was part of the initial attraction where it was like
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of like forbidden.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like we would hang out after work and then
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  Speaker 5: I would go to work and she wouldn't look at me,
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  Speaker 5: she wouldn't talk to me and try to sit next
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  Speaker 5: for her lunch and she would just be like uh uh.
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  Speaker 1: So I like, it's like Meredith Gray and uh and
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  Speaker 1: uh Meredith and Derek in the beginning the forbidden line,
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  Speaker 1: oh like the boss.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, just like.
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  Speaker 5: OK, yeah, So it just was like, well, we're not
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  Speaker 5: really supposed to be doing this, so that was kind
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  Speaker 5: of fun.
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  Speaker 4: But when I left.
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  Speaker 5: We shot in Utah and she lived in Atlanta and
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  Speaker 5: I was in Los Angeles. I when we the day
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  Speaker 5: that we left, I was on my plane. I got
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  Speaker 5: off my plane to say goodbye or because I was
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  Speaker 5: like I didn't know, like we'd kind of been dating,
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  Speaker 5: but I wasn't sure if I was going to see
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  Speaker 5: her again.
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  Speaker 4: But I had like a movie moment where.
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  Speaker 5: I like got off the plane and I was like,
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  Speaker 5: I need to go like Huger and say goodbye and whatever.
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  Speaker 4: So I just knew. I don't know what it was.
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  Speaker 4: I just knew.
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  Speaker 5: And then she ended up and I'm not She'll tell
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  Speaker 5: you I'm not the most romantic guy, so it probably
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  Speaker 5: the most romantic thing I've ever done. But literally I
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  Speaker 5: was like, the plane's not taking off, I'm getting off
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  Speaker 5: the plane. I just want to go find her in
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  Speaker 5: the airport and like say goodbye, because I was like,
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  Speaker 5: I just didn't know when I was going to see
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  Speaker 5: her again, So I yeah, I just knew.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, Ross and Rachel I got off the plane.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know her love languages or do you know
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  Speaker 1: your love languages?
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  Speaker 5: Her love language is physical affection and and.
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  Speaker 6: Like acts of.
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  Speaker 4: Service and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we love a man that knows that just
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  Speaker 1: even knows that term honestly.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, she loves like a like a foot massage for
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  Speaker 5: her is like the you know has her like you
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  Speaker 5: know if that if I if I'm ever in the doghouse,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, let me give you a foot rub, honey.
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  Speaker 2: She wow. Service and I mean that's acts of service
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  Speaker 2: and physical touch. Yeah, so you just knock out.
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  Speaker 7: To right there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm efficient.
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  Speaker 2: What what are you working on right now? What's coming
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  Speaker 2: up for you?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: So we're shooting season seven of The Rookie. We're right
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  Speaker 5: in the middle. I think we're about to start shooting
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  Speaker 5: episode nine. Uh and it airs in January. I don't
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: know the exact date. Also have at least two films
• 10:45
  Speaker 5: that are done. A film called The Huntsman that's like
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: a thriller based on a novel of the same title
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  Speaker 5: that I shot in Oklahoma City this summer and I'm
• 10:53
  Speaker 5: really excited about that. And then also a horror film
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  Speaker 5: with an actor named Ashley Green who've actually worked.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, she's great.
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  Speaker 5: We did a movie called Aftermath on Netflix Film and
• 11:05
  Speaker 5: we had the opportunity to work together again on another
• 11:08
  Speaker 5: kind of similar genre movie and yeah, it's called It
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  Speaker 5: Feeds and I'm not sure when that's coming out, but
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  Speaker 5: those are both done and ready to come out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's so cool. Do you have a preference of
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  Speaker 2: movies or network television.
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  Speaker 5: I think my love is always film. I just love
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  Speaker 5: the idea of popping into a character, living in it,
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  Speaker 5: and then being done, like moving on. And I also
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  Speaker 5: like reading a script from start to finishing, knowing exactly
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  Speaker 5: what the character is, what the story is, like I
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  Speaker 5: can fully prepare. But that's also what's interesting about network
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  Speaker 5: TV is like you don't know where it's going to go. Yeah,
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: so there's that unpredictability. And if the writing is good
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  Speaker 5: and the character is good, to get to develop and
• 11:45
  Speaker 5: spend a lot of time with a character is really
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  Speaker 5: enjoyable too, So it's not like one's better than the other.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of like to do both. Whenever we have
• 11:52
  Speaker 5: a hiatus, I try to go make films because I
• 11:54
  Speaker 5: like to mix things up with different characters.
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  Speaker 1: He's a busy man. Wait, I didn't want to throw
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  Speaker 1: it to eat because he was raising his hand and
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that there's an X men question.
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  Speaker 8: Close close, I wanted to. It was the movie You
• 12:06
  Speaker 8: Met your Wife on Frozen.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it was Frozen.
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  Speaker 8: I love Frozen. I went through this thing where I
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  Speaker 8: was watching movies about people trapped places. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: and Frozen they're trapped on a chair lift. Yeahs it's
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  Speaker 8: so good. And if you haven't seen Frozen, everyone listening to.
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  Speaker 1: Breaking Wait, that's like one of my biggest fears.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. So it happened.
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  Speaker 5: It's happened in real life, not quite to the extent,
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  Speaker 5: but the crazy thing is. So we made that movie
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  Speaker 5: in Utah. We got into sun Dance and so we
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  Speaker 5: had this movie about being stuck on a ski lift
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  Speaker 5: at the Sundance Film Festival. It was like, this is
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  Speaker 5: the perfect audience for this movie.
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  Speaker 2: Was like skiing. They're like, our skiing has been lower
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  Speaker 2: than the.
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  Speaker 4: Lower Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the attendants on the lift steve been low this season.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, we're getting the finger to wrap it up. So
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  Speaker 2: thank you for coming in and taking bank to you.
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  Speaker 2: That was really, really fine, a wonderful time here, and
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  Speaker 2: collect all the bracelets and.
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully next time I see you both arms will be covered.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get you an internet boyfriend bracelets. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: We have Bart Johnson in the house.
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  Speaker 3: What a nice more welcome, that's so nice. Thank you,
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  Speaker 3: so good to be here.
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  Speaker 2: I was so excited to see you on our rundown
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  Speaker 2: people to talk to you.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I was breaking up. I was like, came out
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  Speaker 3: of nowhere today we have a podcast. I said who,
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: and they said you guys. I was like, come, let's go.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: My old friends ever get to see I know.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: What is it? Do you love coming to events like
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  Speaker 2: this where you get to interact with the fans?
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  Speaker 3: Love it? I'm kind of new, Like I started doing
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  Speaker 3: this one for Disney with a Keny Ortega and all
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  Speaker 3: the high school musical and different kind of Disney musicals
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  Speaker 3: in Paris every year.
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  Speaker 7: Oh my god, like a deal.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: And like the fans are so great, like they're so
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: gracious and they're so glad you there, and it's really, uh,
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: it's pretty awesome. Ye's great. I like to party with
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: my people, you know.
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you are.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: You and your wife Robin, who's one of my favorite
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: people in the world, are party people. Like your party energy.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: It's so fun to be around y'all.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: Well, same same with you, of course. I think that's
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: why we hit it off right away. But yeah, we
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: do like our family. I just went to a family event.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: There's like seventy five cousins there. So I think it's
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: like it's in our DNA. It's just it just is.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: It's so fun. But when you took the how long? When?
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: What year was it when you got the role for
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: coach Bolton?
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that was like nineteen years ago.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Wow, could you ever imagine that?
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: No, it is No, it was wild like as it
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: because it came out of nowhere too. I got a
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: call from I knew I met. This is a long story,
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: but I met Kenny Ortega on the set of Newsies
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: if you know that movie like way back with Christian
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Bale and Dave Moscow's like Keiths anyway, and he just
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: kind of was involved in my career, like he's just
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: been like really supportive. And my mom did his hair
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: the hair for the movies. So he's just like a
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: family friend for all these years. But he watched every
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: time I was on a TV series or did a movie.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: He called it I loved you on that roll. So
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: this kind of came out of nowhere. I got the
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: phone call that said, hey, Listen, we're doing this movie.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: It's small, it doesn't have a title yet. We're calling
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: it high school Musical until we come up with something.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: No one's going to see it and there's no money,
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: but like we'll hang out, we'll have a great time.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: I was, man, I'm totally in.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a really great lesson in life.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Actually this man say yes, yeah, say yes to those
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: opportunities for sure.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it may look like a like a like
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: a dull penny, but that it could be a shining
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: diamond at the day.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Here's here's another crazy thing. I couldn't get a job
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: after this, Like for like the first ten years, high
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: school Musical was out because I was like I was
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: the dad in high school musical. Like I wasn't like
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: like the new Like who's that all. That's Zach g Frond,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: that's Vanessa Hudgens. Okay, yeah they're cool, but like the dad,
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: like that doesn't really give you the heat you want. Really,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: like they're call going, hey, get us the dad from
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: the high school. No, I'm not saying that, you know.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: So like I was, I didn't get I didn't have
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: like cool opportunities, not for like cool edgy like interesting
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Netflix shows or anything like that. It was like I
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: tell you I was too and I get an unemployment.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: But it all changed probably like ten years ago, all
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: of a sudden. Like what was interesting is I did I
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: did a TV series, a big network show, and when
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: I was like halfway through the show, then the show
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: runner came up to me and said, hey, by the way,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: I'm a big Wildcat. So yeah, my wildcats now were
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: like then now they're running things.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: So it's like it's all come back around.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: And now it's like, I don't know, it's it's interesting
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: because I used to only be famous for little kids,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: and like as time goes on, it's like, oh, I
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: see now they're now every vis in junior high. Oh
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: now was in high school? Oh now everybos in college.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: So it's like I've got this like this big long
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: fan base of a Wildcats are looking out for their
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: coach now. So yeah, I got a nice audience.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: So we have you and I have a thing where
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: you go to different countries and you'll tag me in
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: videos of McDonald's and so I'll repose the comments is
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: so sick, yes, and the idea literally my d are
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: like how do you know, Coach Bulton, Like this is
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: my favorite collab ever, Like people love it so like
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: we need to pitch ourselves to McDonald's to do like
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: a tour tour.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: McDonald's has been the best so far.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: That's that's a tough question.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Tough one because they all got different stuff everywhere, you know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Like the one that Japan I just went to, they
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: had like a shrimp in their chicken sandwich.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I can try.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that sounds actually interesting.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty interesting. Yeah, I don't know that. You know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: that's a question I'm going to work on and get
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: back to me.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: You get back to Hamm. Yeah, you're really good at TikTok,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: really good at TikTok.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: What do your kids say about your TikTok?
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, they hate it. They hate it so much.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: They just wish I never got that assay actually loves
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: you things well, Robin has known, like I actually came
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: from like musical theater, and so when I got high
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: school musical I was supposed to have a song and
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: a dance in that movie, and the first one there
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: was a song and a dance like a competition one
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: like anything you could do, I could do better. I
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: love competition in a darbus and they cut the sucker.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I never want to use moment.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think I'm finally getting into a musical.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: And I was pretty young when I did that high
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: school music like I've never played a dad before. They're like,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: you're gonna play a dad. I'm like a dad, Like,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I've never done that before. So I think I'm gonna
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: be doing all the singing and dancing. And I get
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: there to the movie and they're like you stand over
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: there on the sideline or we're gonna do all the
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: dancing you hear without you. I'm like, oh this sucks, man,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: And a lot of those kids like they don't they
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: don't have a singing dancing background. I do singing dance.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: So and then the sequel comes out. I'm almost certainly
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: now I danced pretty good at that rap party on
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: high school is going on there, no, no, not out,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: and I'm like number three, like this is my moment
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: to shine, man, I'm gonna do some singing and dancing nothing.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: So then TikTok comes out and I have a lot
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: of people you're messaging me like you got you gotta
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: jump on okay, all right, I'll try. Yeah, now it's
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: my time. Yeah, because you could do whatever you want
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: on TikTok, so let it be.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Another lesson in life. Yeah that's right, yeah right, yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: go do don't get what you want to do it yourself.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: I haven't debuted my singing yet though, that's that's in.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: The work coming. Instruments.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, play a little, I play a little piano, little guitar.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: What about the first track? What about the first track?
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, I guess you know, whatever the kids
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: want you, whatever the kids.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Want from.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: It's zaddi.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, kids love that.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: There was there was one first trap and then you
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: got you deleted it, so.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I didn't know about that.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: As soon as it went not.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I s.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: You're not quick enough for.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Online I love yeah, No, you know, I like the
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: the trends are fun and I like to try to
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: find anytime a trend comes out, I always think like, okay,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I don't want to just do the tremble, like how
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: can I do like the coach version of this trend,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: you know, or the and I get the best response
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: from you know, from that for my like little spin
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: on it I love you.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Like they go creepy, Like I'm like, when we need
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: a Coach Bolton musical.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: We do. I've written one, actually I have. I have
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: so you know, I'll.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: See what that like live high school.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: You've done it, You've written one.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: You're so surprised. I guess I never mentioned.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: It to anybody when you essence, you now have it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: You did it. Why don't you get these people that
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: are the Coach Bolton fans that are now like the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: people behind the scenes to make it.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: That's true, that's good.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Can your taga?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, Kenny's like so good with like the
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: young kids, and like, you know, he's always like on
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the cutting edge of this. Yea, you know, I don't.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you wants to look for maybe
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: he does. Maybe I love Kendy so much, Like he's
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: so sweet. I've known him like my whole entire life,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: so I'm nothing bad to say back ever, like he
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: has like made such a good impression on me and
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: take care of my family and he's just been awesome.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: He's great.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I love that. What what's your dream role to play?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Like if you could, if someone was like you have
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the choice to play any role on TV movie whatever,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: What would it look like?
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Boy? You know, I guess I probably like jeez. I
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: don't know if i'd want like Jason Bateman's crip. Maybe
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: because people always thought I looked like Jason. You ever
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: since I was a kid, people thought I looked like
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Jason Bayman. It's a crazy not so much now and
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I'm getting like John Cena and like it's kind of
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: some weird stuff like I don't know, I think they're
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: talking about the bike.
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah that's something like that.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. I really like those roles,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: but I don't know if that's a fun thing about them.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. It's crazy. I didn't see it at all.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: It's like, what are people talking about? And then I
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: saw his picture was one particular picture John Cena was like,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: whole crap, man, I look like that dude. Yeah, I'll
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: take his career. I mean he's doing he's doing comedies, like.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he has gone into like oh yeah, well acting now,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, he's doing like.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Cool action movie. I would love that. Kidding me, I
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: think a square in a second. But I really like Jase.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: But you know, Jase Bailey directs and he acts and
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I'm really interested in that too. I've done some directing
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: and I love it so much. And writing. I love
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: writing too, So I don't working here, man, I'm.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Going to do a quick little gearship Robin have been
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: married for how many years?
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: For I think this September is twenty five years? Can
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: you believe that September twenty f twenty five years? I
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: wish she was here, man, she was loving.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: She's one of my favorite I just am obsessed with her.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I want to know, because twenty five years, that's that's
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: like what people strive for, you know what I mean?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Like that's like that's like the hope, the dream. How
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: how do you keep the twenty five years?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: What do you do? Like?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Give me all the seat us we got?
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: How we have to come back from a much longer podcast.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: But no, I have a lot to say about that, honestly,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: like because we talk about it and we we uh
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: uh we work on it, and it's kind of I
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: don't know. I kind of think it's like.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: It's like peaks and valleys.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Well it is, but it's also like what you put
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: in is what you get. I'm kind of like every
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: time I've given a talk because I give talks sometimes
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: because I like it, you know, like speeches or not speeches.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: But like a talk ted talk.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look kind of like that. Yeah, I always too
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: often I use the analogy of like the gym, you know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: like you go into the gym, Like if you go
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: ahead visit the gym every once in a while, you're
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: not gonna see any results, you know. But if you
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: go in there and consistently work, and you work really hard,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: you're going to get some results. What you put in
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: is what you're going to get out. And I kind
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: of feel like a lot of people go to relationships
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: to receive, like oh I want this, I want this,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: you know, and really your growth comes from you giving.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot to be said about that,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Like show up to your relationship to give and light
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: that person up and don't think about yourself, you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: think about what can I give to this relationship? And
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: the more you give, you're going to get back. And
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: because you're in in that relationship. And then there's all
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: the all the things, all the work things. You know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: what do they want? What lights them up? And what's healthy? What?
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: What are good healthy decisions do you make in your
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: life for your relationship. So I think it's I mean,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: you put it in the center of your life and
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: it blesses your life. I think. You know. So we've
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: done that. We've like we've put our our kids and
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: our family and our relationship like at the center of
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: our world. And our career has suffered because of it. No,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: not really, but but but it is it is, right, Yeah,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: you know I joke about but that's like you have
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: to do that. You have to You can't put your
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: career first because it's like that's not really fulfilling. People
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: think that's what where you give filment. That's not where
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: you give fulfillment from giving and sacrificing and contributing and sacrifice,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: you know. That kind of stuff is like there's your
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: fulfillment and then all the fun stuff and the career
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: and the acting and the movies, and that's icing on
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: the cake. That's the that's the fun stuff. But yeah, yeah, I.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Also feel like y'all just genuinely like each other, like
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: being in love with each other, y'all like it, like
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: y'all just enjoy y'all have fun together.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. No, that's and and I don't
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: know if I just kind of got lucky, because I
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: don't think when I was in my twenties, I was like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: that girl has really a lot of wonderful qualities as
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: a mother. You know, she'd be an amazing homemaker. Like
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: when you're in your twenties, you're so stupid, You're like,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: she's hot. It's a bid body, like I don't want
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: that ship you make any stupid and based on stupid decisions.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: But I will say when I met Robin, I was
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: teaching acting class for her dad. Another long story, but
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I'll tell it here. But she walked in the door
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: one day and I was like already friends with her
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: sister Blake, like in acting classes for Ernie Lively's acting studios.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: And she walked in the door and I was like,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: that's the one. I'm going to marry that girl. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I was probably twenty five at the time, but the
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: way she lit up the room and her personality and
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: everything I saw, I was like, that's it. That's like
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I saw her like genuine like I don't know, just
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: like that energy she is she is oh so drawn
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: to that. And then it was like three years of
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: stocking until I got to date her. Yeah, but maybe
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: two and a half three years of like she was like, nah,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: she had a boyfriend of the.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Time, sneaky.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was working from the inside.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Yea was very helpful in life.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Persistence persistence, Well, you know, I had this mindset of like, oh,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: these kind of girls, like they're never single, They're never like,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: oh cool, I'm single. I'm gonna go hang out at
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: a bar, like they're not like that's you're not gonna
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: you gotta do.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: You know what's wrong with the single girl at the bar?
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Nothing's wrong with her. She just doesn't go to a
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: bar ever, Like she just doesn't go.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: At the bar.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: She's just not there. She doesn't go there. Yeah, I'm
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: in more specifically for her, I should clear fat but well,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: plenty of amazing people I was single Attle bar of course,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: but but her, she didn't go to bar. She's literally
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: never been to a bar, never went to parties, never
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: went out, she never went outside. So she like, you
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: know she so so I knew, like the only way
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: what I noticed about the about is this is Robin Specifically,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: she's an actress, right, She's been actresses she was three.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: So every single boyfriend she had for the last like
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: fifteen years or all guys that she was on a
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: TV series with like those were her Yeah, and that was.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: And it's really easy.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: That's just because you don't ever go out ever, you
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: don't ever socialize, So then the only time you socialize,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: you're on set and you have a scene where you're
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: just you're together. You know, when you shoot a movie,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: you guys know, it's like you spend twelve hours a
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: day with like one person. So that's who she dated.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, how am I going to get on
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: TV Seria? I got how I did this girl? She
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: never goes out, So I was like, I gotta just
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: be I got to hang out and like like develop
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: the friendship and do that thing where it's like, oh,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: the best kind of people dated when people you had
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: a friendship first, Like okay, never done that before, but yes,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I gotta do. So started laying the groundwork, working from
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: the inside, hanging out with the family, and uh just
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: kind of like waited for the opportunity. And then she
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: finally got single, someone else swooped in. Yeah, and I
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: had to do it again. It was terrible, so painful,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's so hard. I mean there was
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of humility, a lot of broken heart, a
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: lot of just one, just one one broken heart, right, Yeah, yeah,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: it's pretty brutal. It was, it was. It was tough.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: It was tough, but I've worked through it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: It worked out.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great story, like how the whole thing
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: like went down. But some of the black people have
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: encouraged to write a movie about you don't have to
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: embellish a thing.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: It is so heartbreaking, but you don't hate. Twenty five
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: years later and uh, you got the girl.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got the girl.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the redhead with the three redheaded kids.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: And it's uh, it's it's a good it's a great life.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I love that. I love our family. I know, I know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: before we go, what's your toxic trade, toxic trait. It's
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: like the lighthearted toxic truit.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Oh oh gosh, you're always late. Oh okay, oh I eat
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: too much? Oh yeah, yeah for sure. I literally like
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I last night I got here to Chicago and I
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: was like, okay, they have a gym. Let me go
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: check out the gym. And the gym like sucked. It's
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: terrible here. And I was like, okay, Giordano's is like
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: five minutes away, so I was like, let's go to
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: your daughter's. I got a whole big pizza of myself
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: and ate every single I did not leave a bite
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: on the table.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: And then you're just like, yeah, yeah, I feel like
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I would have a better career, more money, and a
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: better life if I would just less.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I can't do it too. And then we'll
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: just go to McDonald's world tour.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: We love you so much, thank you for taking have
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: so much fun this today.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: And this is a great start. I just arrived and
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: this is amazing.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the best. Thank you. All right, you guys,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: we have David Limb here.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: What a warm welcome thing.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's how we do it in the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: O R.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: What's so R?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: That's that's our podcast?
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, cool, where's the stand for operating room?
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: Okay?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Our podcast name comes from we We just celebrated our
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: seven years yesterday, so thank you so much.
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: Amazing, but we we got you by one year eld
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: season eight.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but y'all have had some complicated journey. Yeah but yeah,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: our podcast is called Scrubbing In because of our love
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: for Grady's anatomy, so we reference ourselves.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: As wed Yeah. Yeah cool.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: So, speaking of the bumps in the road on SWAT
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: were you has it been an emotional roller coaster?
• 30:38
  Speaker 9: Yes, no doubt for sure. I mean we we've been dealing,
• 30:43
  Speaker 9: uh with the emotions when you since the pilot. When
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: you get a show, you know, you're like, great, I'm
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: part of this really cool pilot. More swatch Sean Ryan
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: from the Shield, Justin lenn Is directing. So it's like
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: you're overwhelmed with so much shoy that you're a part
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: of something. Okay, then you got to go make it,
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: and then you got to see if you get picked up, right,
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: So you're you're constantly wondering, are we even going to
• 31:07
  Speaker 9: be able to make a season of this?
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: Then you get picked up season one? Congratulations?
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: Great?
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: Now are we going to get a back nine of
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: the first season. So we've been going through this for
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: and at the end of each season, you you know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: are we going to get canceled? Are we going to
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: get picked up? And then obviously the last couple of
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: years we've been canceled. After season six uncanceled, Well.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: How does that happen?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: How do you get uncanceled.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like the dream.
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: Shamar Schamar had a lot to do with it, our
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: fans had had a lot to do with it. And
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: there's a lot of things that go on behind the
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: scenes of getting the show made, all the political the
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: economics of doing a show, and in today's world of
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: five hundred different scripted shows, all sorts of streaming platforms,
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: it's no longer that, you know, you get good ratings
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: and you get great viewership, which we've always had, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: you automatically come back, that's no longer you know how
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: it works.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: There's so many other factors that come into play.
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: So we were just super fortunate and a little bit
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: we had some luck on our side too, to canceled. Uncanceled.
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: Here's season seven, it's gonna be your final season. Wrap
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: up the storylines, and then we always knew in the
• 32:21
  Speaker 9: back of our mind that that if we just delivered
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: a really good season that there might be a chance
• 32:27
  Speaker 9: that we can come back and do season eight, because
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: we all wanted toeah and now here we are.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: That's so cool. I don't think I've ever I don't
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: know if I've heard of that happening.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: It's happened it feels like an emotional journey.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: I was just telling a couple of the fans who
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: I met signing autographs. We thought season seven was our last.
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: I was getting ready to say my goodbyes to a
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: show that I've been part of for seven years. So
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: you know that I was getting stealing myself. I'm not
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: gonna be emotional. My god, I'm not gonna cry. And
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: on the last day, I was getting ready to say
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: Mike goodbyes, and I thought we were done. Samar gets
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: up in our boxing ring at our HQ at Swat HQ,
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: and he says, we're coming back, and we're coming back
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: for twenty two more episodes. And I looked around and
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: people were in tears. You know.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: I looked at Jay.
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: We're like, I'm like, dude, I've never seen crying before.
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: You know, we're like crying. We're hugging all of our
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: crew who love making the show. It meant that they
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: had jobs for another another year in a time where
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: it's where it's really tough. As you know, we've dealt
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: with strikes, pandemics, So it just meant a lot to
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: a lot of people to come back and that we overcame.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's amazing. So now I have a
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: question going on to a show like SWAT where it's
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: like physically demanding, yes, how many how much of the
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: action are you doing? And then I'm assuming they're sun coordinators.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: Right, we have stunt coordinators.
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: We all have stunt double but we do a lot
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: of our own stunts, and we do a lot of
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: action in Chamar Jay and myself, the whole cast, we
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: joke all the time. The acting part is not hard
• 34:11
  Speaker 9: on SWAT. It's the physicality of the show that's the
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: most challenging. Because you're in the gear for ten twelve
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: hours a day. We're doing our own stunts when they allow.
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: Some stunts are a little dangerous, like when people are
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: hanging off the side of helicopters and exploding through semis.
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: They don't let us do that stuff. We leave that
• 34:33
  Speaker 9: to the stunt doubles and the pros, but we do
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: a lot. Of us are former athletes, so we're capable
• 34:38
  Speaker 9: of doing our own action and chase sequences and tackles
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: and takedowns and fight scenes, and as actors, you can
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: always tell, like when you're stunt double on the final
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: cut I'm like, that's clearly my stunt double, you know,
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: so none of us want that, you know. But then
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: ten to fifteen takes into the fight sequence when you're like,
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: you hurt you, you banged up your knee, you accidentally
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: got hit in one of the takes. You know, the
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: gear is super heavy. Then you're like, Okay, maybe I
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: should have left this one to the to the double.
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: But we're just all we all love doing it. And
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: so but to answer your question, yes, we do a
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: lot of our own action.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: So you have to stay physically in shape.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you train all the time?
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: We do on our own time. Like we all just
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: keep in shape and work out. And we know when
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: we're coming back for a season that it's a grind.
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: It's twenty two episodes, it's it's out of the year
• 35:35
  Speaker 9: of filming and there. Once that train starts, it doesn't stop.
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: So once you start episode one, you're not getting a
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: break until maybe Christmas, and then you're finishing out the season.
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: So it's it's really taxing on the body. You got
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: to make sure you get your sleep, you got to
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: make sure you're in great physical shape, and then it's
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: constantly like maintenance throughout the season, you're always nursing some.
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: Sort of bump or b.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Always.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you talk to samar if you get
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: him in here, ask.
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: Him what his h his maintenance routine is outside of work,
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: and you'll get a laundry.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: List of It's like a job on top of the job. Yeah,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: how do you handle that? Because you're you're married, correct,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: how do you handle the balance of relationship in such
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: a strenuous schedule.
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: Well, thankfully we get weekends off, so you know, but
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: usually weekends we're catching up on like the next script
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: or studying preparing for the next the next week. But
• 36:37
  Speaker 9: my wife knows that when we're in season, it's just
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: she's going to get a very tired version of me.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: But we always you know, you do what you you you.
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: You work hard during the week and then you leave
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: that and then when you have a day off or
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: you have your weekends, then you you know, you go
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: do have your personal family time and you know, hang
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: with the dog and the wife, go on little trips
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: and stuff.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Our listeners are they're either dating, looking looking for love.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: What is something that when you met your wife that
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: like made her stand out? You were like, I have
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to marry her.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know if I knew that right away.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I wanted to monogamously.
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: You know what it was. I wasn't looking for to
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: date and I and I was. I was kind of
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: newly single at the time. This was gosh uh a
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: ten years ago now as we've been married for five.
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: But I wasn't looking for to date or for love
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: at the time, and I think that's how it how
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: it happened.
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: It just kind of organically, you know.
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: I met somebody and she happened to be amazing, and
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: we connected and we started hanging out.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: And even though I wasn't necessarily looking for a relationship,
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: I would have.
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: Been a fool to let her go exactly. And that's
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: how I knew I wanted to marry her too. I
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: was like, if I don't want to marry this girl,
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: like what am I?
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: What am I looking for?
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: So it's so interesting because I feel like that's the
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like I feel like everybody when you're dating,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, is this it? Or is there something better?
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Like that's always like that question, you know what I mean.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: And I feel like when you know, you just know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: you're like that's it.
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, applies to everything in life. Great. You always
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: think the grass is green?
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so true.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: And sometimes you don't know how good you have until
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: you you don't have it anymore.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: So y'all met on a modeling shoot correct.
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, not too far from here in Minneapolis, and
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: we were joking because it was a modeling job for
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: Macy's that traveled to different cities and the second stop
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: was Chicago.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: So we met in Minneapolis.
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: Then this show went to Chicago and ended up in
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: San Francisco in La so we kind of like.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: Hung out and we were hanging out.
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we were at the checking out the Bean downtown,
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: we were on the bridges, we were you know, hanging
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: out in all these different cities.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: And that's how it started.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Like remember our first date when I took you to
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the Bean and she's like that was work.
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no, but we still reminisce. Even when I
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: was coming out to Chicago this weekend. I was like, oh,
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: remember when.
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: We, you know, Chicago, two years ago.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: So were you acting before I mean sorry, were you
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: modeling before you got into acting? Was it all cohesively together?
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: Kind of kind of cohesively together?
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: I always knew I wanted to be an actor acting,
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: it just was harder to get jobs.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: At the beginning.
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: I was like, oh, you got to study and actually
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: this will you have to skill. You have to get
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: good at this thing before you can get some jobs.
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: And so in while I was training to become an
• 39:32
  Speaker 9: actor and in class I was, I was getting some
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: modeling jobs and doing some commercials. And I feel like
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: that's kind of how a lot of works. Because a
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: lot of the guys I was coming up with who
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: were modeling, we all wanted.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: To be actors.
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: It just it's it's a long I think it's a
• 39:48
  Speaker 9: longer journey, yeah, to find steady work as an actor, right.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I also feel like there's so many people that
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: are in the modeling industry and you act, like you said,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: acting you have to study and stuff. But I actually
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: think modeling seems very complicated too, Like not everyone can
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: just model, you know.
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, no, my wife has done it since she was
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: fifteen years old, and she's traveled the world and she's
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: very experienced. And yes, modeling is it's a superficial industry.
• 40:17
  Speaker 9: It's a lot of it's how you look nowadays, it's
• 40:20
  Speaker 9: a little different I think they're more open.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it is. It is a skill.
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: It is a business, and you have to you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: get experience, and you have to you know, you have
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: to to learn how to It's not easy to just
• 40:35
  Speaker 9: she makes it look easy to do all these like poses.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: And walk the runway. That's a skill.
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: So I tell her all the time, I'm like, your
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: name you you crush it. You have experience, like you've
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: done it all.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: So how does she handle it? So? Is she an
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: actress or she strictly modeling?
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: She just models? Okay, except when she runs my lines
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: with me?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, which is important.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: You need it very important.
• 40:59
  Speaker 9: You, me and Runner need somebody to run those lines,
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: you know, because when you look at it yourself, for like,
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: nothing nothing sinks in But when you read it with somebody,
• 41:08
  Speaker 9: all of a sudden everything makes sense.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So does she when you come to things like
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: this and people are like or just being an actor
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: in general, and people falling in love with your character
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: and girls, you know, commenting on your Instagram and DM
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: and you does she how does has that been weird
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: for her at all?
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Or is she just like not gig?
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: No, she understands it, you know, She's modeled for years,
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: so she understands the industry.
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: She's a pro.
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: You know. She's also European, so she's not as like uptight,
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: I feel like, as as as some Americans might be.
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: She's like, oh yeah, cool, all right, you know whatever. Yeah,
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: you gotta kiss a girl on set today.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm just gonna take your credit card.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna take your credit card. I'll go to rodeo.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: You know, nice little trade off back you get to
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: kiss another girl. We're both happy.
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we know she knows like we're
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: I'm a pro, been doing it for a long time.
• 42:06
  Speaker 9: And like she and I, we got so much love
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: for each other, and we trust each other and love
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: each other so much that it's like, yeah, go go
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: do your thing and then you know, and then come home.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the special special lady.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is yeah, very confident and also Yalla, the
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: way you speak about her, it seems like Yelberry. There's
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of trust and love and just respect for
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: each other.
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah, trust, love and respect. If you have that, everything
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: else is easy.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, before we go, what is your toxic trait? Not traumatic?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: This is not chirpy, but more like like I'm always late,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Tanya doesn't have I won't have a.
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: Job if I Yeah, toxic, Uh trade, that is a
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: good one.
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: That's a that's a tough.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Tough What does your wife nag you about? Not nag,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: but what does she say, like you do this?
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Like do you pile the trash up before every any
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: last crime?
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: A clean dude, I and help her clean around.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: This is a tough one. I need some more examples.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Someone said they get they turn into a monster when
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: they're hungry. They eat too much, to the point where
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: you know, there's they're like, I eat too much.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I had a lot of heart spatial awareness. I like
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: to be really close to people.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: No, that's something I know. There's some stuff.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: You're perfect. No toxic trade.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: No, I know toxic.
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: Maybe toxic is extreme.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: You know an annoying trade?
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: Annoying trade?
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Do you leave your shaving clippings and the toenail clippings
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: in the same buy.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: My nails there it is. Yeah, I've been doing it
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: for years. Yeah, by them all the time.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: We got it.
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: Knew it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: I knew it, and my wife will catch me just
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: like stop that stopping. Since I was a kid, I
• 43:55
  Speaker 9: don't know how to stop.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for taking time.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Really appreciate fun today.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: All Right, everybody, we have Colin Donald. Yeah, welcome. I
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: love it. Okay, So you and Tanya actually go back
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: Oh my gosh.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: It was a long time ago at iHeart Festival.
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: Oh oh boy.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: So I had just gone through like a really bad breakup,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: like like heartbroken, like devastated, and I was like at
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: this point where I was like I'm never gonna have
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: fun again. Like I just was like you know that
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: phase when you go through a breakup and you're like
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want to look at a guy, I hate
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: them all, like that type of thing. And then I
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: went to the festival and I met you, and you
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: were like my gateway and to be like I can.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Do this again.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: This is all I wanted from this. This was all
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I want.
• 45:07
  Speaker 10: Oh I'm so glad there's not video on this podcast.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Well that is uh, it's good to see you.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: It got me back into the like I can do
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: this again.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I know she's engaged.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that was an unexpected start to this interview.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I did not.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: To get out of the way because I saw the
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: photo and I was like, wow, we have to talk
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: about this is so fun, and I go.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I told Beck, I was like, I guarantee you he's
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: not gonna remember because this was so long ago. It
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: was my gateway. It was like, that was my that
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: was my my launch pad into like back into life.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: You're the reason she's engaged.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Basically, I have you to think.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: All right, hero, all right, anyway, work stuff.
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: I'm sure that I am bright red, calmly.
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: It's like a sneak attack. It is amazing.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: It was so I mean, it's just I can't explain
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: to you kind of the season of life that I
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: was in, you know what I mean, Like it was
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, I'm sure everybody gets it.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I also like my first time ever being blacked
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: out on the ground was at iHeart Festival, so I
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: understand the experience of that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 10: I remember doing an interview there where I I think
• 46:36
  Speaker 10: I crashed Steven Emmel's interview and said something inane about
• 46:41
  Speaker 10: wanting to get out and see Pitbull.
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: It was uh.
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: Something yeah.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Anyhowuck has been on.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: The bathroom floor multiple years.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard festival brings out either the best, best,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: or worse.
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: You just I don't know if it's fine lines, it's
• 47:00
  Speaker 10: Vegas and apparently this thing that happened in Vegas didn't
• 47:03
  Speaker 10: stay in Vegas anyhow.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, going into work stuff, Yes, when you're learning a script,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: what is harder? What is harder in the in your world?
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Is it singing and dancing or learning medical? Because yeah,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: No, I was.
• 47:25
  Speaker 10: It's it's all like learning a language, right, So you know,
• 47:30
  Speaker 10: once you get into the rhythm of learning those learning
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: steps and songs, then you get more and more practice
• 47:37
  Speaker 10: at it, and you like, you flex the muscle a
• 47:39
  Speaker 10: little bit more, and it becomes a little bit more
• 47:41
  Speaker 10: second nature. And that was the same thing when I
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: started doing Med. That first season was like being shot
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: out of a cannon and yeah, sure, I know what
• 47:49
  Speaker 10: anything means, and you're just doing it phonetically. And then
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: as you get more comfortable with it, and luckily we
• 47:55
  Speaker 10: just have we've got professionals, actual doctors and consultants on
• 48:01
  Speaker 10: the show that helps through that sort of thing, so
• 48:04
  Speaker 10: it becomes easier. But you know, when you first start
• 48:07
  Speaker 10: doing that stuff, I mean, I think if somebody were
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: to try to teach me to dance right now, I'd
• 48:11
  Speaker 10: be like, no, I'm good, I'm just gonna stand here.
• 48:15
  Speaker 10: Everybody else can dance around me.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, You're like, I feel more comfortable not dancing. Yeah,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: So please let them do the work.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: How many months of the year do you shoot?
• 48:25
  Speaker 10: Golly, we would for Chicago ed twenty two episodes. The
• 48:29
  Speaker 10: season takes about ten months. That is, so you're like
• 48:32
  Speaker 10: you're deep into it for like nine or ten months
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: a year. That's that's generally how long like a twenty
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: two episode network television show takes.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: But that's the goal.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of people, I feel like a lot
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: of actors have shows and things where they go like
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: they do it in two months, three months, and then
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: they're back, And I feel like that's the goals to
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: have something that's like steady that many episodes.
• 48:52
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, it's an amazing gift when it can happen,
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: and it doesn't happen as much anymore. You see television
• 48:57
  Speaker 10: now is mostly like ten twelve episode or even shorter sometimes,
• 49:02
  Speaker 10: and it's great to have that kind of steady gig
• 49:04
  Speaker 10: go on for you know. I did over eighty some
• 49:07
  Speaker 10: odd episodes of Chicago med over the four and a
• 49:11
  Speaker 10: sliver of a season that I was there in five
• 49:14
  Speaker 10: and it was awesome, Like I wouldn't change it for
• 49:16
  Speaker 10: the world, and it's and then I've gone off to
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: do like you know, I shot a show that was
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: ten episodes over seven months, and it's just a different,
• 49:24
  Speaker 10: different kind of experience.
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: But the.
• 49:31
  Speaker 10: Grind, for less of a better word, of doing twenty
• 49:35
  Speaker 10: two episodes so quickly and just getting into the rhythm
• 49:38
  Speaker 10: of that. You see how hard these crews work to
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: make that happen week after week we shoot an episode
• 49:44
  Speaker 10: in eight days and to do that for all those
• 49:49
  Speaker 10: moving parts to work in unison to make that happen
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: is really inspiring. And it's what a lot of people
• 49:55
  Speaker 10: don't see as watchers of television. They don't see all
• 50:00
  Speaker 10: those names on the credits going to work. Yeah, it's
• 50:04
  Speaker 10: these things don't get made unless all of those people
• 50:07
  Speaker 10: come together and believe in a show that can get
• 50:11
  Speaker 10: to the screen after eight days of shooting in a
• 50:14
  Speaker 10: little bit of time after to edit and you know,
• 50:17
  Speaker 10: make it all glue together.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: And what is it like when you're at conventions like
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: this one, Like when you actually get to see the
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: fans meet the fans get the bracelets from the fans.
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: It's it's it's amazing because you know, coming from theater,
• 50:32
  Speaker 10: there is an access to the people you're watching on stage.
• 50:35
  Speaker 10: You know, we come out of the stage door after
• 50:37
  Speaker 10: the show and there's fans that are lined up outside
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: of the stage door that we get to interact with.
• 50:42
  Speaker 10: And you get that immediate response when you're on stage.
• 50:44
  Speaker 10: You get people applauding for you at the end of
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: the show and hopefully standing or whatever it is. And
• 50:51
  Speaker 10: it's fun that places like this, events like this exist
• 50:55
  Speaker 10: because then we get to actually, you know, connect with
• 51:00
  Speaker 10: people who have connected with our work.
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: That we wouldn't otherwise get to know.
• 51:06
  Speaker 10: Like you know, I've had so many stories over the
• 51:09
  Speaker 10: years of doing these types of conventions.
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: Where shows that have done have provided.
• 51:17
  Speaker 10: People with, you know, an escape from whatever they were
• 51:20
  Speaker 10: going through at the time, or helped them work through
• 51:22
  Speaker 10: something they were going through in their lives. And it's
• 51:25
  Speaker 10: you know, it's easy sometimes to think about, you know,
• 51:28
  Speaker 10: I'm just doing another medical show, yeah, or I'm doing
• 51:32
  Speaker 10: a comic book show. But to somebody who's watching who
• 51:35
  Speaker 10: really finds something in it that they connect to and
• 51:39
  Speaker 10: that they love about it, and that they connect to
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: the character that I'm playing and have them express that
• 51:44
  Speaker 10: to me, it makes me feel like I'm doing something
• 51:48
  Speaker 10: that is worthwhile, yeah, which is ultimately what got me
• 51:51
  Speaker 10: into the business in the first place.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like for you and if through the
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: mundane of going to work every day, you're like, I'm
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: just showing up for job, right like everyone.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Else sort of, Yes, but it is a job at
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: the end of the.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Days like a box you're doing it in like a
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: like a bubble, you know. So it's like to see it,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: to see the fans. That's like, that's what you're doing
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: it for.
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, to see Yeah.
• 52:12
  Speaker 10: And and ultimately, I mean you're right, like, we don't
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: do this if it weren't for the fans. Like you know, art,
• 52:19
  Speaker 10: to me, art doesn't exist in a vacuum, right, It's
• 52:21
  Speaker 10: meant to be seen and experienced by people, whatever your
• 52:25
  Speaker 10: medium is. So it's it's really great to be able
• 52:29
  Speaker 10: to get that sort of feedback at the end of
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: the day and to to know that what you're putting
• 52:34
  Speaker 10: out into the world is being appreciated and sometimes taken
• 52:38
  Speaker 10: really to heart.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you when you come to these things, is
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: it do you have a reaction from different parts of
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: your career where people are like, I know, I love
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: you from you know X Yeah.
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there's there's some people who
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: have you know, been watching me from the time that
• 52:57
  Speaker 10: I was on Arrow.
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: Uh, people who.
• 53:00
  Speaker 10: Have you know, really followed my career from uh, from
• 53:04
  Speaker 10: the beginnings of it, whether it was zero or even
• 53:07
  Speaker 10: before that, whether if they were fans of Broadway and
• 53:12
  Speaker 10: musical theater who knew me from either seeing me on
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: Broadway or listening to me on on cast recordings that
• 53:17
  Speaker 10: I've done.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: And it's it's a really flattering thing to have somebody
• 53:23
  Speaker 10: follow you in your career. Yeah, as you've grown up yourself,
• 53:28
  Speaker 10: I mean, and you know, gotten to play different characters
• 53:30
  Speaker 10: and maybe they tuned into the next show you did
• 53:34
  Speaker 10: because they loved you in the previous.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: And it's it's awesome.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I know, it's so cool. It's fun. We were saying,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: like people fall in love with the first project they
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: see you in and then they get there like I
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: want it wherever he goes, I'm gonna I'm gonna watch. Yeah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: We were just talking to Skylar and we were talking
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: we do episodes because we have a lot of listeners
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: who are in the dating scene or married or single,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: and we like to ask the man. It's called our
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: mannal where we ask. It's our paneling, it's our man panel.
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: A panel of one.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a standalone right now, and we wanted we
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: just like to get advice on, like, you know, from
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: a male's perspective. And you've been married for what nine years?
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: Nine years now? Yeah, just my ninth. We get two
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: beautiful kids.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: What was it about her? Like, what was it that
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: stood out that you were like this?
• 54:30
  Speaker 10: She's so my beautiful, insanely talented wife. Her name is
• 54:36
  Speaker 10: Patty Miern. We'd known each other for years before we
• 54:40
  Speaker 10: ever started dating, actually, and we did after I was
• 54:44
  Speaker 10: killed off of Arrow. I was just out of relationship
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: myself and she was recently divorced and she had a
• 54:53
  Speaker 10: rehouse warming party because she kept the apartment from the
• 54:57
  Speaker 10: from the divorce, and we were about to start rehearsals
• 55:02
  Speaker 10: for Shakespeare in the Park the next day that we
• 55:03
  Speaker 10: were doing a show together, and I don't know, I
• 55:08
  Speaker 10: showed up and I just had a great time talking
• 55:12
  Speaker 10: to her and was remembering all these times that like
• 55:15
  Speaker 10: she'd made me laugh and how easy it was to
• 55:19
  Speaker 10: hang out with her, and so I was the last
• 55:22
  Speaker 10: one to leave the party. We kissed, I went home,
• 55:25
  Speaker 10: and the next day I was sort of like, oh,
• 55:28
  Speaker 10: I think this is something. And I really was like
• 55:32
  Speaker 10: I was all in I pretty quickly because there was
• 55:35
  Speaker 10: just something I don't know if I can put it
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: to one thing that made it clear. But the more
• 55:43
  Speaker 10: we hung out and the more we were around each other,
• 55:47
  Speaker 10: it was really I just was head over heels and
• 55:53
  Speaker 10: I was like, I want you to be a part
• 55:54
  Speaker 10: of my life.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like humor is what I heard.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I know that's an takeaway.
• 56:00
  Speaker 10: It was a really big thing. Like for me, somebody
• 56:03
  Speaker 10: somebody who would laugh at my jokes. Yeah, could really
• 56:06
  Speaker 10: like make me belly laugh in a way that I
• 56:08
  Speaker 10: hadn't really before.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And like we knew each other's.
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: Hang ups, so, you know, having been friends before and
• 56:19
  Speaker 10: moving forward in a relationship, it was kind of nice
• 56:21
  Speaker 10: to have somebody be able to call you out on
• 56:23
  Speaker 10: your things.
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Why So y'all met after Era. So she and she's
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: in the industry.
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: She is, she's an actor, Okay.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: So she's very she understands the role. I have a girlfriend,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: and she is in the industry, and I struggle with
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: the uh, just the elements that come along with it
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: of like, you know, kissing other people, just all the things.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: But I always feel like it'd be so much easier
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: if I was also an actor, or does it not?
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that there there is a there's just
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: stuff that has.
• 56:58
  Speaker 10: To be worked through, and uh, you know, certainly we
• 57:03
  Speaker 10: have worked through our own things to be able to
• 57:06
  Speaker 10: be in a place where we're comfortable with, you know,
• 57:09
  Speaker 10: the realities of what we do right. And we've done
• 57:12
  Speaker 10: projects together and weirdly enough, never played opposite each other
• 57:16
  Speaker 10: in those projects a lot of times, like so, you know,
• 57:20
  Speaker 10: we did this Hallmark movie Love on Iceland together, but
• 57:24
  Speaker 10: we weren't paired up in the movie. So I'm off
• 57:27
  Speaker 10: kissing and she's, you know, is just there. It's just weird. Yeah,
• 57:34
  Speaker 10: I mean, there's.
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: No other way to describe it.
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: It's a weird situation.
• 57:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, but you know, it's it is the job.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: I feel validated hearing that, though, because everyone's you know,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: we talked to other and they're like, well, you know,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: they're in an industry, they get it, and I'm like,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: it's just an unnatural thing. To watch her the person
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: you love.
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, try explaining it's a kids.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Eventually, that's a whole other thing.
• 57:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean Patty was Patty was Princess Anna and
• 58:03
  Speaker 10: Frozen on Broadway, and like we've showed our Uh. We
• 58:07
  Speaker 10: have a four year old daughter who's old enough to
• 58:09
  Speaker 10: understand it. But she's like, well, why are you kissing
• 58:12
  Speaker 10: that guy? And I was like, not the conversation I
• 58:14
  Speaker 10: have right now. Yeah, why can't I see daddy do stuff? Well,
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: because daddy doesn't do stuff that is appropriate for kids
• 58:20
  Speaker 10: your age.
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: Daddy's not a Disney prince. He does the darker role.
• 58:26
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, before we go, what is your toxic trait?
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: My toxic trait.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Lighthearted, like I'm always late.
• 58:35
  Speaker 10: Oh uh, I'm quiet.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:42
  Speaker 10: My toxic trait is that I will sit in the
• 58:44
  Speaker 10: background of like I'll be happy to like just sit
• 58:48
  Speaker 10: in the corner.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Interesting party going on, that's interesting for an actor.
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm I'm.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: It takes me a while to warm up, usually.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Takes you all and warm up. Well, but that's that's
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: your That's not very toxic. But if that's it, then
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: congrats to your wife.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: If that's your I'm sure she probably has quiet.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Hope you have a great day to day and enjoy
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: meeting all the fans.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: Thank you,