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Patriots Unfiltered 11/30: NFL Week 13 Picks, Thursday Practice Updates, Chargers Preview · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: you have the sneaky feeling they might pull a went
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  Speaker 1: off this Sunday? No? Okay? Is that like a Tampa two? No? No, No,
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  Speaker 1: you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Have to be so dismissive.
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  Speaker 4: I was just I said, no, I'd be better, Fred,
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  Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, kind of Actually, yeah, that's closer than Tampa two.
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 1: in Jillette Stadium, and uh, yeah, we're getting ready for
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  Speaker 1: a game. I guess right here we are, Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: l A Chargers Baileys.
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  Speaker 3: Whether we're ready or not, there's a game on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, so as Evan just gave the lead,
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  Speaker 1: it's got to be Bailey, right.
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  Speaker 4: It seems like yeah, yeah, Well he talked to you yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he gave you a little great yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I I you know, I tried to do my job
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  Speaker 5: in the locker room yesterday and he walked in. So
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  Speaker 5: I walked up to him and said, but.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like he's officially talking at the podium today.
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  Speaker 4: It seems like we're going to get a locker room.
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  Speaker 5: So it doesn't matter what does it mean. But that's
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  Speaker 5: not how I That's not what he said to me.
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  Speaker 5: He said to me that he's talking tomorrow. You never
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  Speaker 5: said podium where No, he never did, and everybody else
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  Speaker 5: ran with podium And I was like, I, that's not
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  Speaker 5: what I.
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  Speaker 4: Got to earn the podium.
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  Speaker 3: Did you invent that?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 3: Because I did see on my timeline everybody was saying
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  Speaker 3: that he was playing on speaking. You're the only one
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  Speaker 3: that got that information.
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  Speaker 1: I stole it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So people say, oh, a few, a few reports.
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  Speaker 5: One reporter, this guy walked up to Bailey Zappy and said, hey,
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  Speaker 5: do you have a minute. He said, no, I can't
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  Speaker 5: talk today. I'm going to talk tomorrow. I said, okay,
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  Speaker 5: talk to you tomorrow. I said, I was prectice. He said,
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  Speaker 5: practice was great. Next thing, I know, everybody is tweeting
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  Speaker 5: out what he said when that was like he literally
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  Speaker 5: said he didn't want to talk like that wasn't an
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  Speaker 5: on the record thing to say, regardless, and.
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  Speaker 4: Then Evan tweeted it out because he was like, well
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  Speaker 4: and at.
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  Speaker 5: That point, now I might as well just get the likes.
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  Speaker 4: I did, like the great though, when he was a
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  Speaker 4: big smile on his face, great.
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  Speaker 5: Big smile, big smile, great practice.
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  Speaker 4: Let him up, Let him up big time. They had
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  Speaker 4: no chance. Patriots defense. Yeah, and fuego.
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  Speaker 5: Well last week, you know, he hid from us per usual.
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  Speaker 5: You know, this happens a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that everybody does it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens a ton some days.
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  Speaker 5: They you know that that's our time, you know, out
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  Speaker 5: of the locker room, and uh, we're going out of
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  Speaker 5: the locker room and I see him and I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you're going to get you tomorrow. He was like, he
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  Speaker 5: was like, all right, tomorrow. And I was like, get
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  Speaker 5: you tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna be chaos in there. I mean, there were
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  Speaker 4: so many people there, Paul. I mean, I saw Garady again.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, like he's on Felgrimaud You're only
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  Speaker 4: come on the days that the Paul's not here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciated that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's ducking me. Yeah. So, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 3: when when Evan came back from practice yesterday, we all
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  Speaker 3: sort of assumed. I think we were assuming going in Yeah. Uh, anyway,
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  Speaker 3: but what do you expect to change? You know, does
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  Speaker 3: anything change you know if Zappi is the guy running
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  Speaker 3: the show.
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  Speaker 4: For me, it's just does he potentially have a little
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  Speaker 4: little bit of juice after having a full week of practice.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I'm not expecting it. Yeah, I mean I'm
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  Speaker 4: expecting it to expecting what it was.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I am expecting it to be better.
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  Speaker 1: Though.
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  Speaker 4: They're gonna let him throw downfield. Does he want to
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  Speaker 4: throw downfield? Is he? Is he just gonna you know,
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  Speaker 4: is he going to play aggressively and say, look, this
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  Speaker 4: is another chance for me? I mean, this is a
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  Speaker 4: chance for Bailey Zappy right now. You know, going back
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  Speaker 4: to last year, we've been talking about Bailey Zappy and
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  Speaker 4: his opportunities and what you know, just for him in
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  Speaker 4: a bubble like it's a chance for him.
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  Speaker 3: I agree. I keep saying, at the very least, evaluate
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  Speaker 3: your roster, your personnel. Find out if he's a backup.
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  Speaker 3: If you're convinced that he can't be the guy of
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  Speaker 3: the future, I would probably agree, find out if he's
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  Speaker 3: a backup. See if you have to invest, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like a a lot of teams, do you know, significant
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  Speaker 3: money into a backup or do you look at him
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  Speaker 3: and say, no, he's perfectly fine we had. If we
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  Speaker 3: had to deal with him for two or three games,
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  Speaker 3: I think we would be a business as usual.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly how I look at it. If with
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  Speaker 5: all due respect to Bailey z Appy, I'm not looking
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  Speaker 5: at him as a franchise guy, regardless of what he
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  Speaker 5: does over the next six weeks, like unless they go
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  Speaker 5: six and oh and he's averaging three hundred yards a
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  Speaker 5: game and he looks like he's you know, Tom freaking
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  Speaker 5: Brady out there. I'm not putting him as as the
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  Speaker 5: starter next year. But if you don't have to blow
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  Speaker 5: up your entire quarterback room because Bailey Zappy is a
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  Speaker 5: capable NFL backup, then it's at least one spot that
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  Speaker 5: you have filled. And if you look across the league,
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  Speaker 5: backup quarterback matters, Like a lot of teams are playing
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  Speaker 5: their backup quarterbacks right now. Some teams are playing their
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  Speaker 5: third string courts, and some of them, you know, I
• 5:48
  Speaker 5: don't care, I do not care what they make, but
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  Speaker 5: some of them make some money.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So yeah, I think it would be an
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  Speaker 3: advantage if you could find that out.
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  Speaker 4: I just think coming off of last year, there was
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  Speaker 4: kind of this feeling that maybe he's a gamer. Like
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  Speaker 4: maybe he doesn't look like a lot, he doesn't have
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  Speaker 4: a big arm, but maybe he's a gamer and he
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  Speaker 4: gets in that.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's something to that.
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  Speaker 4: I do too, But I think this year is kind
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  Speaker 4: of under were talking about Bailey Zappi. Yeah, it's just
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  Speaker 4: this year it didn't he didn't seem as much of a
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  Speaker 4: gamer like.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like there was.
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  Speaker 3: A little different. And here's why I will be defensive
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  Speaker 3: of the Zappiites, you know, but you know they're not Macalyites.
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  Speaker 3: So I do think there's a difference. And we said
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  Speaker 3: it yesterday right with the two games that he started,
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  Speaker 3: he played pretty well. It was all the other games
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  Speaker 3: that he didn't play as well, and so maybe there
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  Speaker 3: was a difference. And in that regard, if you need
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  Speaker 3: to have him start, you know, maybe that's that's kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of what you're looking at, you know what. His two
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  Speaker 1: games remind me a little bit, particularly the one in Cleveland,
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  Speaker 1: and he wasn't as as good, but remember when Garoppolo
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  Speaker 1: stepped in and he looked efficient as hell, Like it
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  Speaker 1: was almost like a West Coast offense. It was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, quick in rhythm passes, you know, everything.
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  Speaker 3: Short the Miami game. Remember when he got the first
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  Speaker 3: half of them.
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  Speaker 1: Whoa, that was the best game he's ever played. I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: first it was, you know, but it was like very
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  Speaker 1: like would you you know, would you say that it
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  Speaker 1: resembled a West Coast type of style passing that that
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  Speaker 1: was before.
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  Speaker 5: I like was really like studying their tape, so I
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  Speaker 5: couldn't tell you.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, you know what you mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it was not what it just Garoppolo
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  Speaker 1: looked just so efficient, and I would say that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh, the style that they had Zappi playing
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  Speaker 1: was similar, not as good, not as good as when
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  Speaker 1: Garoppolo had those two games, but.
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  Speaker 3: Well the Miami game especially.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but but it was efficient. It was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: balls out of his hands, guys are running the right routes,
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  Speaker 1: they're getting you know. For whatever reason, it looked different,
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  Speaker 1: and we all you know, chalked it up to, well,
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  Speaker 1: they dumbed down the offense. They made it a lot easier,
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  Speaker 1: they used more play action. Well it worked, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so why don't you do that when the other guy's
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  Speaker 1: in there? You know, I don't know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: The the one thing I will give Zappy, amongst some
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  Speaker 5: other things. I agree with the guys here that getting
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  Speaker 5: a full week of practice and having the game plan
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  Speaker 5: catered around you, and the call sheet is your call
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  Speaker 5: sheet with Bill O'Brien and it's not Mac Jones's there,
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  Speaker 5: it's not halftime, and then you're you know, catching up.
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  Speaker 1: That's a huge difference.
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  Speaker 5: It's a huge difference now that they're gonna go into
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  Speaker 5: this game calling a game and planning to call a
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  Speaker 5: game for Bailey Zappi and not Mac Jones. And I
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  Speaker 5: think a couple of things that Bailey Zappi clearly does
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  Speaker 5: better than Mac is ball fakes. I think he's a
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  Speaker 5: better play action passer. I think he's better on fakes,
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  Speaker 5: on screens and different ball handling, and he sells it better.
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  Speaker 5: It's just he's more, you know, willing to kind of
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  Speaker 5: sell those play action fakes and really keep the ball
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  Speaker 5: in the running backs chest and not give the defense
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  Speaker 5: those tells as much. And he was really efficient off
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  Speaker 5: of play action last year. The traditional dropbacks are the
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  Speaker 5: non playoff action plays weren't as good.
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  Speaker 1: It just wasn't.
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  Speaker 5: But the play action stuff was off the charts good.
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  Speaker 5: He had a perfect passer rating. Off play action last
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  Speaker 5: year seventeen yards per attempt, which is just stupid.
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  Speaker 1: And how much of that was yards after catch? Not
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  Speaker 1: not all of it, really, you know, some of it.
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  Speaker 5: And we were talking about this yesterday because I went
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  Speaker 5: back and I watched you know, a decent amount of
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  Speaker 5: Bailey Zappi the last week or so, and a lot
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  Speaker 5: of it, unfortunately was Jacoby and so so like, how
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  Speaker 5: much of it was just that, you know, they would
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  Speaker 5: run these like max protect play actions and Jacoby would
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  Speaker 5: have all this field to just make a move at
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  Speaker 5: the top of the route and get open, and that
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  Speaker 5: that was his bread and butter was just creating separation
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  Speaker 5: at the top of the route. Now that they're not
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  Speaker 5: gonna have Pop Douglas probably in this game because he's
• 9:47
  Speaker 5: in concussion protocol, who is the guy that's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: creating that mismatch? Do they even have that guy? It's
• 9:54
  Speaker 5: probably gonna be Juju running the routees. What of the
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  Speaker 5: question is he going to be able to get open?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good roundable quicker today that I brought up,
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  Speaker 4: But you haven't done it yet. It's okay, you'll get
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  Speaker 4: to it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure I will get to it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm curious how the team reacts, like is there a
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  Speaker 4: tangible feeling of the team. Are there less delay of
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  Speaker 4: game penalties? Are there? You know, like does is there
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  Speaker 4: a different vibe? It's hard to feel, you know, to
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  Speaker 4: know for sure, but you know, is there an energy
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  Speaker 4: going through the team right now? Like we got a
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  Speaker 4: new guy, let's get behind him, you know, like, like
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  Speaker 4: do the things that some people are talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I think it would be a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: boost if the reports earlier are true. I forget who
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  Speaker 1: reported it and who they talked to, but they said
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  Speaker 1: that Mac had lost eighty percent of the locker room.
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  Speaker 1: Callahan reported that I don't know who he talked to,
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  Speaker 1: if it was just one person and that was one
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  Speaker 1: person's opinion. But you know, then on the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: I look at a guy like Hunter Henry, who was
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  Speaker 1: reportedly part of the Mac Jones five last year, does
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  Speaker 1: he feel sorry for Mac Jones, like, you know, my
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  Speaker 1: friend got mistreated and you know, like I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. And that's that's the problem with this
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  Speaker 1: year locker room is it could be fishers, it could
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: be divisions. So but I would think, like, okay, new start,
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe practice is a little bit more upbeat.
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  Speaker 1: You know, let's hope yeah, yeah, or some people are
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: hoping it doesn't work because you know.
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  Speaker 3: But now, But I could see it going either way
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  Speaker 3: if they're both both sides, and I think what could happen.
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  Speaker 3: And this is gonna be interesting the success if they
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  Speaker 3: have it right away, because you know, it's gonna inject
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  Speaker 3: the crowd. Sure, just like just like last year, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when he got in the game and those two drives
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  Speaker 3: against Chicago and they all of a sudden had fourteen
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  Speaker 3: points on the board, the place was going crazy. Now
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: it'd be a little different because they're two and nine
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  Speaker 3: now and the season wasn't over ironically until they lost
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  Speaker 3: that Chicago. Like, I just wonder what the buzz will
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  Speaker 3: be like in this in the crowd.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it'd be interesting because I think there will be
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  Speaker 1: some fans even if he's doing well and they jump
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: out to a lead, we don't want to win this game.
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  Speaker 1: And how enthusiastic will the Zappi chance be.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there's a lot of people that come
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  Speaker 3: to them. I mean there are some you're you're absolutely right,
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  Speaker 3: but I think when you're at the game you want
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  Speaker 3: to rooting for your team.
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  Speaker 1: I get yeah, if you.
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  Speaker 3: Went out of your way to go to the stadium
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  Speaker 3: and tailgated stands like I do. I told the story.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I said it to you. Fred
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  Speaker 3: the Buffalo game, I had a couple of the guys,
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  Speaker 3: you know, my buddies that I coach baseball, I used
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: to coach baseball with huge I mean, they're huge fans.
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  Speaker 3: One of them is a psychotic fan. And he said,
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  Speaker 3: like he did, he found himself in the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 3: of that game really tormented, like the game was so fun,
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: and they were watching this drive at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the game and they're like part of in the back
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  Speaker 3: of his mind, he was saying, yeah, just get down
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  Speaker 3: on like the five yard line and then fall short.
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: You know, have something happen where they don't get in.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe the ref makes a bad call against the
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  Speaker 3: Patriots that cost them the game. As they were in
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  Speaker 3: the already thinking maybe we might want to win the game. Ready,
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  Speaker 3: I think I think if I was, I know, I know,
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  Speaker 3: I know you guys weren't doing it yet, but everybody
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  Speaker 3: else was. I do wonder, what, you know, if they
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: go out in the first drive, and they go right
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  Speaker 3: down the field and score a touchdown. Oh yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: think the crowd's going to be going crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, poor Mac.
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  Speaker 5: We've got our guys, all right.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to before we go any further, let
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  Speaker 1: people know of what's going on at the show within
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  Speaker 1: a show halftime, So we're gonna be giving away a poster.
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  Speaker 1: This is this week's poster, this game's poster for the
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  Speaker 1: Chargers game. Do I have a camera, yeah, cameras on me,
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  Speaker 1: Camera one. It's anime, so for you anime lovers, kind
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: of a shout out to the Chargers because they do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of anime over there. Signed by the artist
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  Speaker 1: in number, it's this is two seventy one of two
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  Speaker 1: seventy five, only two hundred and seventy five in circulation.
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  Speaker 1: Comes with their certificate of authenticity, and I'm gonna put
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: it back in its plastic so Paul doesn't get his
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: food on it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get my barbecue sauce on these these
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  Speaker 3: kicks over here. So we'll give away that cause.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be giving away that at halftime. And then what
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: do I need to say about these? Uh, Matt, you
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: don't have to be mean, No, I don't I Cause
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  Speaker 1: my cleats, but Tampa too. I know that this. Matisse
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  Speaker 1: and Kristin mchel Uh designed those two.
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  Speaker 6: Matist did the black and gold one and Kristen did
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  Speaker 6: the other one.
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  Speaker 1: Do people get to win them?
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  Speaker 3: Mass irooneer for Christmas?
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  Speaker 1: Why are we showing them? They're they're might Cause my
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: cleats on the halftime show you're going to talk about. Okay,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: So this year, as people know, players have been doing
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: My Cause My cleats for a long time now, it's
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: like eight years or something like that, where they pick
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: a cause and they designed cleats. This year they opened
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: it up to NFL employees and so this organization picked
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: a dozen people. Two of them are near and dear
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: to us. So Matisse uh upstairs. Uh, this is his
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: sneaker and it's greater opportunity for athletes to learn. So
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: that's his one that he designed. Has got soccer on one,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: soccer on both sides.
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  Speaker 4: It's a soccer guy. Yes.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: And then Mikayla who was in our sales Kristen I
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: don't know, I'm sorry, yeah, Kristen who was in our
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: analytics department. She did site set on a cure. So
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: this is her design and mass General Brigham logo in
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: the back. So that's pretty cool that they allowed employees
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: to get involved in this, and so they'll be on
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: the halftime show.
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  Speaker 4: She's got the same size feet as tease.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I liked what said.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Sorry, Kristen, all right, So.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: But the post is really cool and that that'll be
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: a good get for anyone that.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: I think my son might want one. He's an anime guy.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Is that supposed to be? Is that justin Herbert or
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: is that just like.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: No, it's it's supposed to be like a pat patriot
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: because you see the try car. Okay, yeah, yeah.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: I thought there was something anime like, well it's actually.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: An animate you know, actually, all right, So we get
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: that out of the way, one piece. You got that
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: out of the way, all right. So so ZAPPI appears
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: to be the starter this year and then the backup
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: right now. The other thing that you came in and
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: you gave an accurate portrayal of the practice. It was
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: like five minutes that you saw I go on Paul
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: shows on my ride home and with the report is
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: like the whole they made it seem like the whole
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: practice that it was Bailey ZAPPI and.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Can I can I just like I Do'm not. I
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: don't know what show you heard and what person individually,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: but can I. I do say that that that kind
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: of advanced as the day went on. It was Keith
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: well people, Okay, so that's at night. Yeah, people had
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: tweeted out, and I would like to credit whoe if
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: you guys know who tweeted I often I often get
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: about about the according to sources, Mac Jones did nothing
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: but scout team.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: I think that Doug was the first one that I
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: want to credit.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: People like I, I often get snarky with the media.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: I want to credit them too when they come out
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: with some information.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: You know, the way they portrayed it on the show
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: at night, it was the practice that Zappy took all
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the snaps, you know, Cunningham took some Mac just watched.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: That was what happened in the five minutes that you saw, correct,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: But they extended.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: It to the I'm trying to explain to you as
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: people advanced that based on what they said, what they
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: talked about in the locker room, found out in the
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: locker That's what I'm saying, Like, I'm.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Not making fun of them all right, maybe.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: What I don't know, and not all of them came
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: out at the same time. I'm not trying to say
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: that they're not true. Howen how does practice participation leak
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: like that with the Patriots? And I just find that
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: interesting just because it's Doug's a good reporter, and I'm
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: sure what he got was right, but we were standing
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: in the locker room and he tweeted that from the
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: locker room. It wasn't because he talked to people in
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: the locker room. I don't think he talked to people
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: sometimes I don't want to.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I don't want to assume, but that's what I assume.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: And I just find it a little interesting that all
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: of a sudden like information like that is like privy,
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: like you can just go ahead.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And the only reason why I stepped in on that
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Fred was not because I'm trying to say this is
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: what happened, that didn't happen this like I don't know.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying I wouldn't criticize people on the radio
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: reading stuff on Twitter because I read the same stuff
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: on Twitter. Yeah, that was that was definitely more about
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Mac Jones being just doing scout work at practice. Now
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: to Evan's point, I don't know if that's that's accurate.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you that's what people tweet.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: It just multiply. You know.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: Doug was the first one that I saw had and
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: I think Mark said something like good for like good
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: job by them. But like I just it's shocking to
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: me that, you know, three years ago you never would
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: have gotten what who was practicing where and stuff like that,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: and now you two and nine and like, all of
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: a sudden things are starting to come out.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you think it's to head off the
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: constant questioning of Bill's press conferences are on? Just like
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Bill or Bailey who you know, Like, are they just
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: trying to.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Well I thought of that too, because Fred said yesterday
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: that they wanted us to see that baby. I surmise
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: that yeah, yeah, yeah, right, that that Bailey was out there,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, you know, Doug and
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Mark have it source that Bailey took the like. So
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Bill doesn't want to answer it at the podium, but
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: he's leaking it, like you know, people are finding out.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: That's how he was telling us.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what Burt Breer criticizes a lot, is that
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: after he does his press conference, then he lets the
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: information out there so he doesn't have to answer what.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: What do we always say? Watch what they do, not
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: what they say. And what they did yesterday was give
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: us a little glimpse into something that they wanted us
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: to see for whatever reason, whether it's a slight of
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: hand or here's your answers, stop asking.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of dramatic. I mean to have
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Molee cunning him out there and think, look, Mazon even
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: taking the second reps, like it's dramatic that the pace.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: But I think that's the way to go. I think
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you make a clean break you you don't put on today.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: And I thought Evan brought that up yesterday on the show,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: like if if you're not going to start mac, you
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: might be better off just having him inactive. Ye yeah,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: but do you But what about the Cunningham part of it.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: The Cunningham thing is so weird to me because so
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: he's been based off of you know what Troy Brown said.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: I think Bill O'Brien said something similar. Even Bill kind
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: of touched it on it a little bit about his
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: majority of the time he's been with the receivers, he
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: has done a little bit in the quarterback room, but
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: at practice he's really only practicing quarterback on the scout
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: team when they're facing a mobile quarterback. Other than that,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: it's been all and he didn't look ready against the
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Raiders to play even in like a package of plays
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: at all. Yeah, right, and so what what's the I
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: just don't understand what the what the point?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: But we also don't know what they've been doing with
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: him since then, Like has he continued to you know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: get through.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Because you go back to your line, right, you can't
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: just go there're telling us that all he does is
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: wide receiver, but maybe that's not accurate.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know they said that he plays some quarterback
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: and he's in the quarterback rooms sometimes, you know. But
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: I just think that ultimately, like to what end are
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: you doing that? And maybe they they signed Rope Will
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: grew back to the practice squad. Malik is currently on
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: the practice squad. So either way there, if Mac is
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: not going to be the second quarter the backup quarterback,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: they have to elevate somebody from the practice squad to
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: play to be the backup quarterback. So if it's Greer,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: if it's Cunningham, I still think that jury is out.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: I'm not ready to say it's going to lak.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: I'm more and more like the idea though, just not
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: having out there. So if it goes rough with Bailey Zappy, right, yeah,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to go back to like we can't
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: like just let him ride it and then maybe Cunningham
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: fickles really bad. Maybe, but I don't know.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Was career at practice yesterday? He was in the locker room,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: he was I know he was back, but I didn't
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: know if you they didn't.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: They announced the transaction at the end of the day,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: so I'd assume he was out there because remember I
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: came in and I thought it was well at first,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: I got my numbers confused.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was out there. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Then I got thrown off because I was seeing like
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: video in the quarter I was looking at Zappie and
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: he had like looked like a black jersey because and
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I was like, is that like one of the practice squad?
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not practice squad, practice player of the week.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh no, no, no, they're in there.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't win last week.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: Were in the red practice sleepy?
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: See, that's how much they win. Because when I was
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: at practice, there was always someone in the black jersey,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: So I saw much that used to win.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Evan, You'll be going out to practice a little after
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: one and we'll see what they.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Want us to see today, probably stretching.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: You they got to go back to just stretching.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Well, you get one day of that extra time for
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: the cameras to shoot b roll.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: That's that's the Wednesday.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: So those are the rules to buy the and we
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: should hear from NFL Writers Association or whatever it is.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, but we don't know official podium.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: No podium scheduled. Absolutely, so if he's going to talk,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: it's going to be Brady style in his locker, at
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: his locker.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: That ended because of a big reason.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, a big crowd there yesterday, though we're surprised how
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: many media contingent was there.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Circle and see the castle crumble, you know.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we know our post game presser numbers for
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Bill and Mack have gone way up. And it's just
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: people love seeing a car wreck. I guess, so I.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Do wonder too, didn't there was some I don't know
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: how much. I mean the Army Navy stuff yesterday. Maybe
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: there was media that people here in there for that
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: and they stayed and maybe that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Was were there people in uniforms out there? Military?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Why don't mean people for kidding?
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: There was a There was a helicopter, though not not
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: mister Kraft's helicopter, Army or Navy helicopter, and it took
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: off during practice like during yeah, taking the admirals back
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: to to you know, Annapolis or whatever it was. It
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: was pretty cool. It's like one of those big like
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: Apache style held. I don't know anything about helicopter, so
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: I'm just guess called the Yeah, I have no clues, Choppa,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: like black Hawk Down is as far as I go,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know what it is.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: All right, what else? So there's the Zappy storyline. What
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: else do we want to put on the table?
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: There's another Kicker signed.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Matthew he was he was in the locker room.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: I'm assuming that transaction will be official today.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, because there were a couple of signings yesterday. There
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: was a wide receiver and Will Greer obviously, but yeah.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Kicker is not official yet. But we talked
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: about the Kicker a little bit at the end of
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Cash twenty two. Not only did he miss the thirty
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: five yard and sendated overtime, they also wouldn't attempt a
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: fifty four yarder with him and he missed the kick
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: in Germany also from like thirty five thirty five something
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: like that. So at this point, like you have to
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: worry about the kicker having the yips, like you know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: maybe he's broken too. So it's that add that to
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: the list.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like the way he hands I mean,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I don't like the fact that he has to handle it, obviously,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: but I like the way he handles it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: The same thing yesterday about bringing guys in.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, understand, I haven't been not the par I haven't
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: done the job. That's what they should be doing. I
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: think he said, just young kid, you know, he gets it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Gostowski never really hit a skid and early in his
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: career did he Like I don't really remember him ever.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Well, the thing about Gaskowski is it took a while
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: before he had the opportunity to have those game winning kicks.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Well that was his Thing's well, we haven't seen him
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: under fire yet, you know.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Then the O six Chargers game in the playoffs, he
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: hit a big you know, big one. Yeah, but but
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: never like Adams like here it is win or lose, right.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: He never had those opportunities.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: He didn't have the Giants twenty fifteen.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: He didn't have make or miss, win or lose for
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: a while.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah for a while.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Fred's right, and you know when he had sort of
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: big kicks, Bill seemed to pass them up.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Like go for forty two, super Bowl forty two, they
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: pissed up one right.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Forty eight the end of the half, remember the at
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: the end of fifty three and Brady just goes over
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: to them, like, what are we doing? Yeah, says something
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: else to me that I'll say for a different probably
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: like an off season show.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the voice of Reason.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Gonna be what do we do it? There is no
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: off season anymore? This this team?
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: All right? What else? Anything else? Before we open up
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the phones? I know, we gotta hurry here from Zappi.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: We got a big week.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Lawrence guy had a big press conference this morning. He
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: was he's always he's bringing the fun a little bit,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: so that's nice to offset some of the loss of
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: of Judon.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: But the two gapping fun take on.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Those double it's going to be a while week. We've
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: got the game on Sunday, and we've got a game
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: on Thursday, and then we got the Army Navy on Saturday.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: So this place is going to be well. The game
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: on Thursday is an away game. But yeah, busy week,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: busy week.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: Thursday games are the worst, terrible, terrible, especially when not
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: like because of me, like for the team.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying because of me.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I like Thursday games for myself, but I
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: agree with that, but they're.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: They're terrible for us. I agree.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: But having to be the road team on Thursday night
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: from a team perspective is ridiculous. Is really brutal because
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: you're losing Wednesday kind of too.
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: I wonder if maybe they leave late on Wednesday so
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: that they can have a full day here, because it's
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: not a far from that makes sense.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: But still it's it's brutal. Yep, all right. Eight five
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: five Pats five hundred is the ACE ticket hot line.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Web radio at patries dot com is an email address.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: People are lined up. Line down has been on. Let's
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: go to Raymond in California. What's up Raymond? Or Ramen?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Hello Raymond, Ramen? No, Ramen no, he's on't are you
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: on mute? Have you yourself?
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Wait at all?
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: He's out? Patty's an agabam. What's up?
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Patty got to wait about thirty seconds? Doing all?
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: A couple of quick questions and I'll take him off
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: there so you can get other guys on the First
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: one is do you think, well, what what do you
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: think the issue was with Phil? Would just say saying yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: that he's going to start. I mean, is a pride
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: at this point? I mean, the season's already lost and
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: he's not throwing anyone under the bus by by naming
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: a starting quarterback. And then the second question, I had
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: a little bit weird and complicated. And I don't know
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: if any of you guys will know this, but since
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: they wrote, you know, signed the leak to the active roster,
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: then waived them, and then re signed them to the
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: practice squad, does that replenish his practice squad elevations for
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: the like? Does he get a whole new like bunch
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: of practice finals.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I don't believe he's used any practice squad elevations. He
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: was signed to the roster, that's not a practice squad elevation,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: so I think he still would have three of them.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: They did. They signed him to the roster and that
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: the Raiders game, and then they ended up cutting him
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: and putting them back to the practice squad. That doesn't
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: count as an elevation. My question on the elevation, I
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: don't know. No, he went from the practice squad, so
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I know this, this sounds kind of counterintuitive. Patty. You're
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: allowed I think, three, right, So you can just go
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: from the practice squad to the active roster with a
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: regular elevation three times. And then once you do that
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: three times, they either have to sign you to the
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: active roster or you have to stay on the practice
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: squad the rest of the way, or you can just
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: choose to sign a player from the practice squad to
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: the active roster. And that's what they did with Malie
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Cunningham for that Raiders game. Remember much was made of
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: the three year contract, which is standard entry level contract.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: But beside the point, yeah, and started for three so
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: he could conceivably be elevated to the practice squad this
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: time around three times if they chose to do it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: And that was the only thing I was wondering about,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: is do you have any limit on the amount of
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: different individuals that can be used for elevations. Three times
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: you can use I don't think as many as you want, right, Yeah, yep,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: I mean Connor McDermott is now promoted. He was three
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: timer months and is that three times he's been sitting there.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Everybody else from the practice squad, not off the top,
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: has been on.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: The has been on the Yeah, so.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Went to three and then they.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gonna have to elevate a quarterback obviously, so
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see, you know which one is.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean they don't have to.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: Well, Mac dresses at the backup, right, Yeah. I would
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: expect them to elevate a quarterback.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I would too, but cunning him over, that's that's the question.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I I you wonder if they set
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: it up exactly like they did net Raiders game, like
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: we're gonna have Cunning him as the backup so we
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: can use him and then Greer is the emergency, or
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: you could just have all three of them dressed.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, what about what about targeting the Chargers run
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: game a little bit with some Elik plays part of it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: If you're gonna if Malik is active and is the
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: one that's promoted, then it has to be with a
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: package of plays in mind to use him. It would
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: make no sense to have him be the active just
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: as the backup quarterback because he's not fully ready to.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Playcat, you know, like get him out there.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: That's all. Yeah, I agree with Evan. I think that's
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: all it could be.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: Right, So if you need a That's why the Raider
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: game was so ridiculous.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Because something happened to Mac, you would.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Have screwed right.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: And Mike on Winn was was there, was active on
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: an emergency basis and and didn't play a single snap
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: in the game and just in in Vegas and just
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: stood there the whole time, and they left themselves in
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: a pinch at quarterback.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. What was your first question, Patty?
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: Just what do you think the issue with Belichick is
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: at this point with not naming a starting quarterbacks because
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: he's not really throwing anyone under the bus.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: And I mean, yeah, I think you know, I don't know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like he there is precedent for him
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: doing that, you know, Cam Newton, you know.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I would say this is unprecedented. What are you doing?
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Well? And and I think what he's telling us is
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: that Mac Jones has done nothing in my eyes for
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: me to declare him the guy, and so I'm not
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: gonna do it, you.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Know, going back to Mac him playing this league, like
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I feel like he's been playing this game a little bit.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: More than he's done nothing in my eyes to you know.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: So then they anoint him the quarterback.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: So because none of the quarterbacks have done enough in
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: his eyes to be naming him the starting quarterback, He's
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: just gonna throw a dart at the wall on Sunday
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: and whoever lands on is the starter.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: No, that's not that's the point.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: But people just ask him who's starting on Sunday? Right,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: But no one's asking him. You know, Bill, you got
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: to make a commitment now for the next five years.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Who's your starter? I get that. Well, maybe Sunday someone's
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: got to start, I know, But I won't he tell.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Anybody because maybe he wants Matt to be always be
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: under that pressure that listen, you screw up on Friday
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and you may not play on Sunday. You know, I
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: That's as good a reason is. I don't have a
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: single reason, not as good as anything reason is.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: So Brandon Staley did his press conference yesterday and Staley
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: said that they're preparing for all three quarterbacks like they
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: could start in the game because they don't know who
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: the starter is going to be. I truly think that
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: he thinks it's a competitive advantage.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I would argue that it takes away your advantage if
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: you if you name a quarterback he's there is less
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: likely that the opponent's going to prepare for more than one.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: And now if you use more than one, I think
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: you have a chance. I think the Giants were very
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: prepared for Bailey Zappy being in that game the other day.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying because of the way the week.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: But when when Brennon Staley said that that they have
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: to prepare for all three quarterbacks and they're studying all
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: three quarter I was like, oh, well, now we're never
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: going to get an answer from Bill because he thinks
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: that it's a competitive advantage.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: What he does think of it. I think every team
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: looks at the roster and says, what if this guy plays?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: What if that guy plays?
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Bill says it all the time, right, but you limit.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: It like it's like you know, but you you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you run a few plays as if that person's in,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: but it's limited.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Like so if you really want in all seriousness, like
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: and I get it, Evan's got it. This is probably
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: what it is in Bill's mind. But if you really
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: wanted to get a competitive advantage, right, wouldn't the potential
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: for the biggest competitive advantage would be to unveil Malie Cunningham.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: So wouldn't wouldn't you be better served to just continue
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: with him on your practice squad, wait thirty more seconds
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: for Evan and the boys to leave, and then have
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: him go through the week. So you have this package
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: of plays, and no one's none the wiser, right, and
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden you put him out there like
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: way back when Fred you know, all my all my
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: references are at least twenty years old in Atlanta, when
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Matt Schob couldn't play, and all of a sudden, myke,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: I think it was Matt Schob and Michael Vick. No,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: all the way around, Michael Vick was hurt, and you're
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: preparing for Michael Vick the whole day, and then Matt
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Schob comes off the bench and throw us to like
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty yards. Remember how up in arms.
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: He was.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: They lied on the injury report and this and that
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: because we didn't prepare except for he always tells us,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: we prepare for everything.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Well, remember in Cleveland, was it Brady they had him
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: warm up inside? No, it was Bledsoe a blods, was
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: it Bloodstone?
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: That was true? Do you ever see that? Let me
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: say the locker room in there because he had the
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: finger thing it was what was this? What happened in
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: ninety In two thousand he had Bledsoe warm up in
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Cleveland in the locker room.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Well, he had Malik warm up in the locker room
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: in Vegan.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Because they didn't want you don't want you know, you know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: around to see.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: But because seriously, like if you wanted to have Brandon
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Stale league perhaps prepared, right, just prepare for the guy
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: who's gonna start. But yeah, he's going to start, but
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I have this other thing that he's not even gonna
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: have any ideas coming, right, wouldn't that be a bigger
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: competitive advantage? Yeah?
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: And that it goes back to like now there's there's
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: these reports that Malik Is could play in some capacity, Like.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Why would now the other team prepares for it. They
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: just prepared for Lamar Jackson last week. Yeah, yeah, oh,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: good point, and they shut him down, by the way,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: and Malie Cuttingham is just as good as Lamar Jackson.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Oh he broke all his records. And I don't know
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: if you know in seven.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Years, let's see, Paul writes in Oh No, it's Joe
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: his email says Paul is signature, says Joe and Walpole.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Nothing like the losing season to bring out the Bozos.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Early draft talk from uninformed callers looking for info that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: isn't available yet, insisting on Cunningham as quarterback when it's
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: been widely reported he's not practicing at quarterback.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Stupid until this week.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who are the callers? Have you ever considered going
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: all email note calls? Most of the callers stink and
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: are not entertaining. And then he goes down the list.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Give us a couple of good well, he says, Eldridge
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Christian with a T, I, A N and sweet kid
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: get it, they're good, Okay, just because ald wide receivers.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: And then big big and again our loyal listeners. This
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: is Joe and Walpole saying it. Bozo's like Todd Christian
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: in La Willem and Philip can pound san them and others.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I would pay a premium to never hear again. Wow,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: hard words, Joe, that's rude emailer on caller crime.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, the emailers are more uh more astute.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Well, the emailers have time to write out an email
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: like it's like I.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Still can't read it. It's not really in English most
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: of the time.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: It's like a text in a phone call.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: You know. That's why people like text Zeke and Chelmsford.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I have this weird feeling that we're going to be
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: extremely let down the response to this season. I can't
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: shake this thought that we are going to keep Bill
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: and he's gonna sell Craft on the biggest issue being
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: the quarterback position, and he's gonna bring in I hate
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to even bring up his name again, Jimmy g in
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the wake of the changes in Vegas. Please God no,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: but I find this to be a realistic and unsettling outcome.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: So let's play this out. Because I agree to an
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: extent that we should probably be more prepared for the
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: fact that Bill could talk his way back into another season.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: I yep, if you were told if Bill you're Robert
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Craft and Bill sits you down and says Robert, the
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: quarterback was the biggest issue with the team this year.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: We're going to replace the quarterback. And he actually puts together,
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: like puts in front of you a good plan of
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: replacing said quarterback in terms of the games individually. Is
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: he all that wrong that the quarterback's been the biggest problem,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: like just in terms of the games? How they've all
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: unfolded now? But we all agree with like the philosophical
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: stuff up top, that the roster hasn't been good. The
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: philosophy of winning games thirteen to ten isn't good. But
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: in Bill's mind, I one hundred percent agree that he
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: thinks a quarterback is the reason why they're losing ball security.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, if they if they have.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: I have no doubt that that's what he thinks. Oh
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: yeah yeah, So.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I'm putting them in a position to play to win
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and the quarterback is screwing it.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Up ball security. He looks at bounce of a ball.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: The game.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: The game in Germany is a W if he hits
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Micah Sicki for the game winning touchdown. The game last
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: week is a W because they only gave up ten points.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: The game against the Eagles is a win. Because they
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: score at the you know, like he's going to convince
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: himself of that, and I think he already has and
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: I'm not rolling out that he convinces ownership of that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: So it's funny when I was on my show yesterday,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Fred and I'm driving, you know, I drive home, I
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: get home, of course, you know it's an hour on.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: So you do the thing that you should never do.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: You go on Twitter and one guy I didn't. It
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: was just one person in fairness, and it was like,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: are you guys going to be ready to offer a
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: written apology for openly wondering where Bill might coach next year?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: And I started thinking, it's my opinion that Bill's not
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: going to be back in New England next year. And
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: my reason for that opinion has as much to do
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: with I don't think Bill really wants to stay as
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: anything else. But if I'm wrong, which I have been
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: many many times over the span of twenty five years,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: why do I have to apologize for thinking that he's
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: not going to be an opinion? Like I don't really
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: understand that, like what this person thinking is going to happen?
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: He thinks Bill staying.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: It's not written apology.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like it's much ado about nothing. I
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: can't believe you clowns are even talking about this, that's
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: the way it's.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: I was told that I needed to apologize for selling
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: people on mac Jones, that it's my.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Fault that matter.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Well I agree with that.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: So here here's my mia kulpa to all those people.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry that I told you last year that I
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: didn't think mac Jones is the problem.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: When I remember saying in year one, I'm very happy
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: that he's our quarterback. And I said it at the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: time and I meant it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think even I would have said I
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: think he had a solid rookie year. Yeah, you know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: and I have been probably as anti in that regard
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: as anybody. But you know, when you talk about Bill
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: sort of selling Robert on the on the note like
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: you know, it's a quarterback and it'd be it's gonna
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: be really interesting, like all those people. And this is
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: not directed at you, because you have not been like
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: this with mac Jones, but there have been a lot
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: of our colleagues that have that still do it. Somebody
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: did it today and I again I would blame them
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: if I could remember, but I have cte. Someone was
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: like the highlights of like the Dallas game.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: His rookie year, oh yeah yeah.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: And comparing it to the Dallas game this year, It's
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: amazing how they broke him this fast. I'm just like,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: can we just stop with the they broke him?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I understand that the Patriots and Bill Belichick specifically didn't
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: do everything right. I understand that they share responsibility for
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: the situation that the Patriots are in, But can we
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: just say that the guy didn't play well without every
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: single qualifier that goes along with it. But so that's
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: gonna be funny if all of a sudden Bill gets
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: to stay and all of these people are gonna have
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: to embrace another quarterback because you guys have been telling
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: me it's all Bill's fault for two years, and now
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have to embrace another quarterback.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Came right back.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: We talked about he came right back and should have
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: thrown another one, but the guy misjudged it.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: We talk about the nature of these games, how many
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: What would the Patriots record be this year if a
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: what forty seven year old Tom Brady was quarterbacking?
• 42:52
  Speaker 10: Oh see, but but that that that's My point, right
• 42:58
  Speaker 10: is that, like I think he really feels like if
• 43:01
  Speaker 10: he just had a guy that was managing games and
• 43:04
  Speaker 10: wasn't turning the ball over like crazy and was making
• 43:07
  Speaker 10: the most of the opportunities that they that O'Brien and
• 43:10
  Speaker 10: every you know, were presenting to themselves, that they that
• 43:13
  Speaker 10: they would be a playoff team, that they would be
• 43:14
  Speaker 10: right there, and I there's not.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: It's not completely illogical.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not. No, But again, you're coaching, you're trying,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: you're building and coaching a team that is living on
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: the edge like that, like the slightest mistake you can't win.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: That would be my point. Yeah, And that That's where
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: I'm coming from with it. I just think that to
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Paul's you know, they broke him. They mentally he is
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: broken and and they have to own up for their
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: share of that. But I think ultimately what the biggest
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: thing is is that they knew who they drafted, or
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: they should have known who they drafted when they drafted
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: mac Jones. He was not good enough when they drafted
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: him to be somebody that was el of the offense
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: to an offense that was going to be good enough
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: to win in the playoffs. Or make the playoffs even
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: and they never upgraded the pieces around him to mimic
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: that they they operated with the pieces around him like
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: he was Tom Brady. You know, we'll get you. We'll
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: get you a second round receiver. We'll get you, you know,
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: a discount and free agency receiver, Kendrick Bourne, you know
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: those types of players. When they drafted Mac Jones, the
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: plan should have been, we're going to be the team
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: that trades for aj Brown, or we're going to be
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: the team that trades for Tyree Killen, We're going to
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: be the team that drafts a receiver in the top
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: twenty and all these different things. And instead they they
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: went dollar store shopping at it and thought that the
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: quarterback was gonna make it all better, and they didn't
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: draft that guy.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Travis in West Virginia says, I bought the game
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: day poster for the Germany game, but it wasn't signed
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: or numbered and there was no certificate of authenticity. Is
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: that normal for that one?
• 44:55
  Speaker 9: It was?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: It was a German artist. We couldn't arrange for him
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: to be in frank for he was in Berlin, and
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: so you paid less for that one. I'm guessing I
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: know you did, and it wasn't signed in number, so
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: that was okay. You got what you were supposed to get.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: It's really good one. I like that one.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, I wanted to give a shout out to
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Pat n Agawam. He brings so much energy this show.
• 45:18
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• 45:23
  Speaker 1: What's the rest? Says? I love listener on listener crimes,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I do too little of it these days, so I
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: was distraught that Joan Walpole didn't include me on either
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: as good or bad list. I must be injured or
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: total non irrelevance.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Screw you. You don't want to be irrelevant.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: He was just worried about your heart. A little Speed.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: Recovery SPI's also turned into an emailer, Yeah he hasn't
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: you know? He's been emailing.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I've heard span other shows too, which I don't like,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Cheat which I don't like. But Speed's and Recovery they
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: want to take it easy and let's go back to
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: the ace ticket outline. Mario is in New Bedford, Hey, Mario.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Hey, how's it going? Fellows?
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Are a good caller or a bad caller?
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: Oh my god? This pressure I'm listening on the phone.
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: I'm actually a first time.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Caller, okaying first TI, I'm.
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: A caller, and I'm like Jesus, now I got the
• 46:17
  Speaker 7: pressure on me. But I actually just wanted a call
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: to say that, uh, you guys have mede me. I
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: feel like become more of a past fan. I've been
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: a lifelong pass fan of a season ticket holder, but
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: listening to the show. Unfortunately, I just started listening this year.
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: It's been a rough year, but just the energy you
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: guys bring day in, day out, I really do appreciate it.
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: I want to give a shout out to Mike. He
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: his hands down my favorite person on the panel. I
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: love you all, but his comedy and humor just gets
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: me every time. So a shout out plus his wicked answer.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: But I just want to ask, what are your expectations
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: for this upcoming season. I don't want to be the
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: guy that kind of quit on this year, but I
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: feel like we all have these big hopes of taking
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: a QB early, kind of getting a new coach, maybe
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: even a new GM that won for San France. But
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: what's a realistic expectation Because I know we've kind of
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: been rebuilding, but it seems like we're really just starting
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: fresh this next year.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: I got it. Well, it's not, I mean, I think
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: we're talking about Yes, I mean, it's I think the
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: realistic thing is it's jiraw Mao. It's him running the show,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: and there's not going to be a major overla. You know,
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: it's Macro is now the GM. I mean, I think
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: these are the things that if you had to put
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: money down on it, that's what I would bet on that.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: You know, either Billyo's still here, maybe they bring back McDaniels.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but that's I mean, I know that's
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: not what people want to hear. But I think if
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: you had to predict or put money on it, how
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: could it not be jiraw Mao as the favorite right now?
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: I think that you have to look at it, you know,
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: from ownership's perspective a little bit, and completely wiping away
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: the infrastructure here that they've built over the last twenty
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: twenty five years. It's easy for us to sit here
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: and say, oh, just blow it all up and fire
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: everyone and get a whole new front office and get
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: a whole new coaching staff.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: And I think it's.
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Really easy to say that, but at the they did
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: have unprecedented success with the roots of being like this.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: I think it's really there's not a lot of organizations,
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: you know, just thinking about it, that have been successful
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: for decades, like the you know, teams like the Steelers,
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: the Cowboys, like they're usually something adjacent to what they
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: currently had going. And like the Steelers have had what
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: like four coaches in fifty years or something like that.
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: So if I'm looking at it from the Patriots perspective,
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: the most realistic scenario is that it's Gerrodmeo as the
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: head coach and it's Macro as the general manager, or
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: maybe it's John Robinson as the general manager and you know,
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: or John Robinson comes back to beef up Macro's staff,
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: you know, to have sort of an adult in the room. Yeah,
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: like those types of people come back and it's the
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: new Patriot way, but it's still the Patriot Way at
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: the end of the day.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks for the call, Mario, appreciate it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Welcome Mike's in Puerto Rico. What's up, Mike, How.
• 49:05
  Speaker 11: Are you doing today?
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Fine?
• 49:08
  Speaker 11: What was my name on that list?
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: Fred?
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Not yet?
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: No, but you're another one. To me irrelevant category.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: It's still time.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: It's not my list though, Mike, It's not my list.
• 49:21
  Speaker 11: Okay, Hey, thanks, Paul, appreciate it. I so I wanted
• 49:30
  Speaker 11: to do you actually touch on something that I wanted
• 49:33
  Speaker 11: to throw out there, Fred, So, considering that the defense
• 49:37
  Speaker 11: phase the way it was, you know, Judan got hurt,
• 49:40
  Speaker 11: Gonzalez got hurt, so on, and fourth, if we would
• 49:45
  Speaker 11: have gone a different way in the offense, and let's
• 49:48
  Speaker 11: say that, for example, we actually uh Jacoby Meyer, Stade
• 49:54
  Speaker 11: Hopkins was signed, and we drafted Dewan Jones at left tackle,
• 50:01
  Speaker 11: and for a kicker, we actually brought in Baker Mayfield
• 50:05
  Speaker 11: for a competition and he was our starter. What would
• 50:09
  Speaker 11: have been our floor as far as wins with those
• 50:13
  Speaker 11: things taken into consideration.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: The board.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: But you know what, you know what I like about
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: that though, Like that's all very rational, reasonable stuff. It's
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: not like what if they had taken Patrick Mahomes instead
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: of you know, no, this is things that were.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: All I'd say, would have been seven games floor floor floor. Yeah,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't think that, but
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I think I think you could have won eleven.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: I now, I just I just I know what, I
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: know when he gaslights me. But I just want to
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: make sure I had it all straight. So it was like.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: It was Hopkins and Jacobe with Baker Mayfield.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: But I missed, I missed, Yes, I missed, I miss
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: I miss The mac Jones is not part of this, right, Okay.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: I think the one Jones is the right tackle.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, let's.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Pump the brakes on Jones.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying you had a tackle. So you
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: didn't go four or five games without a tackle, like.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Like you did? I think seven? What did I say?
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: I think seven is the ceiling.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: Seven is the ceiling?
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like right, no, no, not for the season, fred,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: like like so you'd be seven and four?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Oh right now? Yeah, oh okay, I'm I just.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Think Philly Miami, those are talented teams. Maybe you get
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: one of the Miami games.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think you win the last two games
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: without question. I think you might have been able to
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: beat anyway. I think you might have been able to
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: beat the Raiders. Yeah, so yeah, I think Cowboys.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Oh god man.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: But like the Saints game. I almost look at that
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: one as that's a game even like got blown out.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Like I think that that game was as much about
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: like this team's just it's snowballing on them. A different team.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Now, I don't win that game. I don't think Baker
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Mayfield represents a huge thanks. I just don't. And I
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: know that other people think that he has. But he's
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: also lost six out of his last in games. People
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: have overlooked that somehow. I don't know why, because it's
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: winning and and and they play but lost, and they
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: play in the worst division in football.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: I understand the I think, like what you said about,
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: you know, the Cowboys game, the Saints game, snowballing and
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: things like That's that was my whole thing with with
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: DeAndre Hopkins is like DeAndre Hopkins is here from day
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: one of training camp.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: The whole thing is different. You can't, you know, you.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: Can't just look at it and say, okay, well, let's
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: drop DeAndre Hopkins in.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: It's like the whole the whole camp is different, Like
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: the whole attitude of the team is different. And the
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: callers point if it's Jacoby and it's DeAndre Hopkins.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: With a with a legitimate tackle. I think that was
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: part of it too, And that's why I said that's
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: all rational, Like.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: It's not like it's rational, and it's all could have happened.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: And I think, you know, like, did you see people
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: making the rounds today? They picked ja they picked Kyler
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: Kyle Dugger instead of Jalen Hurts. Well, Jalen Hurts wasn't
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: really on the table for them, right, They weren't even
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: thinking about it at the time. Now you can make
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: an argument they should have been sure, But like.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: But all those things could have happened. And if they did,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: because we live in the moment, would be would we
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: not be talking about Bill? This might be his last
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: year because he made some.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Really good depending, But it depends on what the record was. Well, yeah,
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: but they were two and nine with all that seven
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: and four, Yeah, I think there's a chance that that
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: would I would say, was the ceiling.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But I feel like you need to unravel it
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: a little bit more, and like, how do we get
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: to this point? Did they never draft mac Jones or
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: did he move on for mac Jones in twenty twenty
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: two after last season? And now he's rejiggered things again
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: and they get they bounced back, maybe it would maybe
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: it would buy him.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: But he brought in Baker to be the backup, but
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: then Baker became the star.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: So I think with Mac a lot of what you know,
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: you're talking to people in the locker room and stuff,
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: it's his confidence is shot. And I feel like if
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: you had had these pieces that the caller is talking about,
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: may never have gotten it might not have gotten to
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: this point, and.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: That might be the most interesting question. And he lost
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: the job if he had.
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: Is his confidence being shot meaning and that he's not
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: trusting that guys are going to get open and that
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: the players are going to be run properly and he's
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: not trusting in the system right now, and so he's
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: spiraling because but the point the point.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: There, and you know, you know, kudos to Mike. It
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: was well thought up because all those things are viable, right.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Well, they were in line. The DeAndre Hopkins, he was here,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: they visited, they talked to him, they didn't sign him.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: They were they easily could have stuck with Myers over
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: signing Juju, and they easily could have taken a tackle
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: in the draft, which we all thought they were going to,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: right So those three things, to me were very realistic.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: The quarterback that's different. I don't know, if you want
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: to bring.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: But even if even if you take Baker out of
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: the equation, how much better would all right with Paula?
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: But if someone else is playing quarterback for those games,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I think the ceiling would be higher. Nick, and I said,
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: I think if Zappi played the last two games, I
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: think you would have won.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick and Omaha, thanks for everything you do. You
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: always give me good things to think about and help
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: me understand the game more as they watch on Sundays.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Question Uh, for layman listeners like myself, I would love
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: each of your thoughts. When we talk about the Patriots
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: failure in drafting, are we talking about a failure to
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: make good picks or failure to develop those good picks?
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: If it's the latter, specifically, how does that happen in
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: the NFL?
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: I'd probably I'm always bad at for I would the former.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Bad picks or are they taking guys and they're not
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: developing them.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's a little of both, but
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: I would lean former. I would say it's the bad picks.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think, you know, I don't think
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: development was going to save Nikhil Harry or Cold Strange or.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: I think it's a little of both, but I agree
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: with you, I would I would lean toward the drafting.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: Maybe development, maybe developing that maybe I.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Think that's another both. But you know where I would
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: have taken him in the second round.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: I think that I'm with with Mike in terms of
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: probably more toward bad pick. But I think the main
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: reason is well, one like with Cole Strange, just like
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: going off the board is just sam with Nikhil Harry,
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: I guess you could say that too, just just going
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: off the board is just what are we doing. I
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: think the other thing is, though development you have to
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: take into taking consideration playing time and opportunity. And I
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: think a lot of the times what happened with these
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: recent draft picks is that guys are being drafted and
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: they're they just sit behind veteran players. And even this
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: class now like now Keon White is starting to play
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: a little bit, but he was drafted behind Judon, behind
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: uh josh U j behind Anthony Jennings, and he was
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: really drafted for next year. And I think a lot
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: of the times with these high draft picks, you know,
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know if Jewan Williams ever would have been good,
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: Probably not. But Juwan Williams sat and sat and sat and.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: And maybe it was just because he was awful.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would argue with those guys that they
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: had plenty of undrafted guys that didn't sit, you know,
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: like Miles Bryant, you know, around the same time. So
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: the Duke Dawson's and the Jewan Williams would probably be
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: bad picks. But like to you a point, I love
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: your your example of Keon White, like and then you're like,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: so he's behind like Anthony Jennings. I think Anthony Jennings
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: is one of those guys. Yeah, sat and sad and
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: then I know he was technically on IR, but like
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: what was that? What was the injuries? Like I think
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: he was kind of like Foxborough fluish yep with some
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: of the injuries. You know, they couldn't find any spot.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Because I think he's a decent enough player. He's a player,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: and I wonder if he had played like he does
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: now maybe in his second year, would he be at
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: a higher level. And again it's just like the whole
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: how many wins would they have if it's impossible?
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: What about p D Strong Strong? I mean, you know
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Pete Strong, hang.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: On to the ball, Pete Pete the waiter Ryan in Fairfax,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Virginia saw the movie about Napoleon with Joaquin Phoenix, and
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: during the Russian invasion in Waterloo scenes, I couldn't help
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: but think of Bill as the cocky old general, stubbornly
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: set in his ways until he is told to go
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: into exile. Anyway, I want to let you know that
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: the team's changing composition over the years has been a benefit,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: not a drawback. Andy and especially Eric would have been
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: insufferable during these lean years. Oh yeah, that had been
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: tough to do. Eric would be I think, I mean,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Eric thought the window was closing in twenty fourteen, So
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: can you imagine, And I'm serious.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Eric will probably just sit here on the show and
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: read his book Windows Close.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Eric, I think after they lost the eleven one and
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: then like twelve and thirteen.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: They were like windows he had never been part of.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: I think he felt like the window was closed.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: And then Andy would have been insufferable during these But
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: think about it, I think we'd all agree that's the
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: only thing. Like, I wouldn't be arguing with him, but
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I would just be telling him, you don't have to
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: be so mean, right, mean, you guys I.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: Got another, I got another text. You don't argue with friend.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: Well that's a question for you guys, is do you
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: find it I mean specifically Paul, like, do you find
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: it harder to have disagreements when everybody just is like
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: they stink? Like you know, like when they're really good,
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: you're just kind of splitting hairs and like, yeah, but
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: that guy and you could really fight about but ultimately,
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: like you said there used to make a joke.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: One hundred years ago when I used to do the
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Big Show, Humble Brag. I would go in and I
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: would tell Fred all the time. I would drive in
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: and I would say, well, it's gonna be glen Wood Way,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be Pete Shepherd, and then you know, it
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: might be Steve Deossi, it might be Fred Smerless, you
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: know whoever, Like, do I go in and get the
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: crap kicked out of me by saying like I don't know,
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: like I don't know if the secondary is up to
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: speed or do I just go along to get along
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: for four hours and get out of there without getting
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: yelled at? And sometimes I would do one, and sometimes
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: I would do the other.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: And I don't imagine you control it though, like you
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: seem like you get something in your bonnet.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: And I can't remember the seven season, Like can you
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: guys like remember the perfect season now? Like do you
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: remember how like there was like a clear decline yep,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: like starting in like December.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. Games were getting tougher.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: And my feeling was always that this defense is just
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: okay yep. That offense pounds everybody into submission, and the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: defense has the easiest job in the world to do.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to have a three score lead
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: by the middle of the second quarter, and all I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: gotta do is pin my years back and Mike Rabel's
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: gonna get twelve and a half SATs. We're going to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: cause all kinds of problems. And then all of a
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: sudden when the offense wasn't This is what I would
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: go in and I would talk about, like I don't know,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: like if you get a good team, a team that
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: can throw a little bit, I would worry about it.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: And I remember the first playoff game, Jacksonville not a
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: great team. They went toe to toe with them and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: they had to kick a couple of field goals and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: that finally allowed the separation. I think They ended up
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: winning that game by like a I think it was
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: like thirty one to twenty or something like that, but
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: it was, you know, the difference in the game was
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: football math. The Jags had to kick kick a couple
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: of field goals and the Patriots got touchdowns and that
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: was the difference. And again it's like you're out of
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: your mind. You're out of your mind, you know, And
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: it's twenty one points the next week against the Chargers,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's right there for you to see this.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: There's problems here. And I was getting yelled at and
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: yelled at.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: I remember the Jets and the Dolphins games in December
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: because I was at the Pittsburgh game and they you know.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: That's was like twenty to three or something like that.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I think it started with the Green Bay games. It
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: got a little closer.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: I think I don't think he played Green Bay for.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: It was an out of conference game.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Eagles, Eagles, Fey lit them up. I remember thirty one
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: twenty eight had a pick in the end zone to
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: win the game.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: The Buffalo game, Buffalo stunk, right, they were they destroyed. Yeah,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: And then I was I remember Moss had like three
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: tds or something.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: Like that, and that was the game they flexed to
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: a night game. Yeah, it was like fifty two.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: But when you really looked underneath the surface, like those games,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: I think are why people thought you were crazy, is
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: my point. You know, anybody, you look underneath the surface,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: there was more.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: There were some I just kept thinking to myself, what
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: happens if this team and listen, Ultimately you could go
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: when you could say they lost the Super Bowl seventeen fourteen, Paul,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: how are you blaming the defense? But again, they went
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: on the field with two minutes left and had the lead.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: They couldn't hold it, yep. And I just think that
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: they weren't in that position very often.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: They would have if somebody had caught on an interception
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: and the refor thrown a flag. But anyway, what flag
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Blown the whistle on the Eli Manning although I think
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: he was still in the ground.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Had a flag blown the whistle?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Wow, you talk about a controversial call if that play
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: had been blown.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: No, I know, I don't think they could have, but
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Sante Samuel, you had it anyway. I didn't finish Bryan's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: email about the team's changing composition he said MLB was
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: a positive force in the depressing COVID season. She was great.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I love Deuce's heel turned from optimism to despair regarding
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Belichick's team building prowess the drafts.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Nothing like Mike on the draft.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I appreciate eminent Tamara's approach and to these important team
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: questions from the perspective of a hungry or more critical
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: younger generation in a good way. In other words, the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: dynasty was great, But yesterdo exit stage. And lastly, I'm
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: still advocating for the show to discuss more NFL at
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Large takes. The NFL at Large discussions are the best
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: part of the shows that have always been fascinating.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, Von Miller, Yeah, he got his trouble warrant
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: for his arrest.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: You see that, Von Miller?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Why domestic for stealing money in his contract semester? Oh
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: really not good? Not good.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: The wheels are full and.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: H Evan has left. He's gone to practice. We will
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: wait to hear his update when he gets back. Can't wait.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: Better tell Pizza Tyner, hurry up because we got picks.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: Did you tell him I have picks today?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Matt? Yeah, did you tell Thursday, we got picks.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Your voice cracked it.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel fine. I just have my
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: voice sounds.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: I mean you look wonderful as usual. I mean you
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: do have.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Those probably have quiet covid.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: He has those movie star looks.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Will in Lancaster, this is a throwback game. By the way,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Patriots will be wearing red. Will says, I have a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: very random uniform question, since this is throwback week. Do
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: you know if there are any plans to wear the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: road throwbacks in the future. I feel like those are
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: really clean and underrated. Yeah, I do like the I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: think the white ones pop. I do like that.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: I wonder why teams don't do that more often, like
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: it together, Like you know, the Miami game, I think
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: would have been a perfect example. And then you know,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: like vice versa one. We went down to Miami, Miami
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: wore their throwbacks at home. That would have been a
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: perfect chance to do the whites that that they're talking for.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Did you like my answer to the round table? I
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: didn't really, Sorry, I had I had. I think I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: had a good one.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, can you shure it was?
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: It was not You're gonna have to read it.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: It was on a zoom.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so you're gonna have to read Mike's round
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: table to get my answer about good teas. Good Teas
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: points to who can guess when they last wore the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: white throwback? There's anyone does?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: Nine?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: Miami and Denver that they weren't twice that year, And
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: I was was that famous for the mining game.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: The last time they wore two thousand and nine?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: It was? It was it Denver or was it Miami?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: That was the game that you wanted to fight?
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to fight you did. I was very disappointed.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: Did you see the fist pump after the did that
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: get you triggered already?
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Just during after? Yeah?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I again cte sets in. I remember those
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: uniforms that they wore that year being old, like sixties uniforms,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: not the ones that they were for throwbacks.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: I think, Paul, I don't think it was the same.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: I don't ever, I don't ever remember were the ones
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: that you were talking.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: They were great face too, they were different.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because remember the the Broncos wore really fun those
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: different with the star striper was.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: Like Mike des like you should have seen what they
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: wanted to put me in, Like he wasn't having any
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: But I I if I recall, those old white uniforms
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: are like from the sixties. I remember they wore those
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: like in the early nineties too, with bled cell So.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: It was for nine, which I think was like the
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: fiftieth anniversary.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe it wasn't. It wasn't fifty, but it was probably
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: some kind of Oh, it might have been like an
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: a f L A anniversary, right Maybe.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: I think because they were old. They made the bills
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: because they were AFL.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: Uniforms, which is not which is not the same as
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: the throwbacks they now. The throwbacks they were now I
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: believe are from like the mid eighties.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: So techn't warn those white versions.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Right because even the white ones they wore for Color
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Rush on that Thursday night against Tampa. Oh, I don't
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: think those were the same either.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: It was just white pants with their white jerseys, right, right.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Something like that. I'd like to see the seventies. I know,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: I'm a broken record.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: On Tuesday show, we were talking about assistant coaches who
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: were hired from within and became head to ja. Let's
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: see enray K from Monterey, Mexico says some facts. Tomlin
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: was the Vikings defensive coordinator No. Six before getting the
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Steelers job. Right two, talking about if promoting within the
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: organization works, not really. Only five coaches in NFL history
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: have been promoted within the team and won the Super Bowl.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Five is a good number. Nineteen seventy Don McCafferty from
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: the Colts, he was the offensive coordinator.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's a little different, but I will accept.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Seventy six. John Madden was the linebacker coach for the Raiders.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, go ahead.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Eighty nine and eighty nine, eighty three. Tom Flores was
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: the Raiders wide receiver coach.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: He was the Raiders wide receiver coach when under Madden.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: You know, when Madden retired, he took over. Yes, yeah, okay, except.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Although it's a little confusing here because he says in
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: eighty three he was so did he come back. No,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: you have to be on the team when you're promoted,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: not like you came back.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like, what was he on the staff in
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: seventy nine? Yeah, that was Madden's last year, right, seventy
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: eight or seventy nine, Yeah, I'm not sure. And then
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: Flores was the coach in eighty and in eighty three. Yeah,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: but I you know, if he came from the Raiders.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Oh maybe he said he won it in eighty ninety,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: all right, anyway, eighty six, oh yeah, eighty six and
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: ninety Bill Parcells, he was the linebacker.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Someone brought up Parcels, and that is that's accurate, the
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: linebacker defensive coordinator when he took over for Ray Perkins.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: And then in Seaft won in in eighty nine and
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: ninety four with the forty nine ers.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: He was the and that was also brought up that one. Yep,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: So I would argue, but I would argue that Seaford
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: was not a good coach. He inherited a great team
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: and won one with him, but he was not a
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: good coach. Then he went to Carolina and it was
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: a disaster.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: All right, So it's not impossible.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: But Tom Flories was a good coach.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh wow.
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  Speaker 13: And we are back with the Patriots until third halftime show.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 13: We've been gone for a little bit but we're back again.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 13: I'm joined by Kristin McHale, first time joiner of the show.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, okay to be here.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 13: So before we get started, Christy, you don't know this works,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 13: but we get started with some trivia, so I'm gonna answer.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 13: I'm gonna put the questions dow uh listeners right in
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 13: the web radio Patriots dot com. Christin, don't answer these
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 13: even though you know you helped create these questions. We
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 13: gotta charges trivia coming off Chargers game week?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: All right? Question one?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 13: The Patriots are currently on a blank game winning streak
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 13: against the Chargers.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: Question one?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Question two?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 13: The Paytriots and the Chargers have met forty four times,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 13: including regular and postseason. How many times have the Pats
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 13: shut out the Chargers?
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: In question three?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 13: The first matchup between the Patriots and Chargers took place
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 13: in October of nineteen sixty. The Patriots shut out the Chargers,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 13: scoring how many points? All right, and guys, this is
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 13: gonna be for a game day poster.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Guys.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 13: Teams not doing hot, but the posters are hot, so
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 13: make sure to get them. They're on Patriots dot Com,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 13: which has linked to all the artists all that stuff.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 13: But today we're gonna be talking about My Cause.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: My Cleats.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 13: So the NFL has been doing My Cause, My Cleats
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 13: for a couple of years now, and pretty much players
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 13: get to rep custom cleats that go to a nonprofit
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 13: or charity of their choice. And the Pat's been doing
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 13: this for a couple of years, but they had a
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 13: cool opportunity extended it to employees and Kristen and I
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 13: and some others were lucky enough to be selected. And
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 13: so we got some White Air Force ones and sent
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 13: them in for the artists to do their thing. And
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 13: Christ you want to talk about your shoe.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 9: Sure, Well I'll start off by saying I'm not the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 9: most artistically talented, so I had to be guided through
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 9: by the artists. So shout out to him for helping
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 9: us out with this. But yeah, So the cause I
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 9: chose is Massioneer, which is a hospital just outside of Boston.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 9: My family has a really strong connection to there. My
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 9: younger brother has been treated there his whole life, grew
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 9: up Patriots fans. So being able to sort of design
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 9: a clet tied to this and the whole My Cause,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 9: My Cleats cause has been awesome. I will say Matisa's
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 9: shoes look a little drippier than mine.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 9: How mine came out, design's cool. I used some bright colors,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 9: some eyes, some little eye pattern on the swoosh. Shout
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 9: out Matissa again for inspiring me to put the design there.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 9: I wanted to put the eye the bottom of the shoe.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 9: The designer said no, thank you. But it was a
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 9: great opportunity, great cause.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 13: And it's cool because I'm pretty sure this guy did
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 13: some of the players cleats. Yeah, like the company covered
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 13: all this and christ and shoe looks great. She's she's
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 13: hyping it down a little. But you know, the swoosh
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 13: has eyes. You know, maybe maybe we'll have her bring
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 13: him down for the show and Fred can show him
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 13: on air. Pretty cool.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 9: You can look out for me on game day. I'll
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 9: be wearing them.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 13: Hopefully it doesn't rain, so you know, we don't want
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 13: to ruin them. All right, I'll get into mine real quick.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 13: So mine is for an organization called Project Goal and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 13: so years ago, in my college soccer playing day, it
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 13: seems like a lifetime ago, my team did a training
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 13: session and pretty much an It's an after school program
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 13: for middle school and elementary school students, and you know,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 13: it uses soccer as an enrichment program. It's like aptchoo
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 13: program because kids like to play soccer and it makes
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 13: them want to go to It tries to get them
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 13: into private schools or just better secondary schools. And one
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 13: of my good friends, who was a college teammate of mine,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 13: was an alumni of this program. And so Chris has
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 13: said the colors are black, gold, yellow, and so I
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 13: had a it's cool because the logo is a student
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 13: kicking the ball and it kind of looks like he's
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 13: kicking the swoosh which turns into a soccer ball.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Artistic guy. Everyone was named after an artist, you know,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: that's why you gotta do it.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 13: I just want to give a shout out real quick,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 13: first to the Patriots for allowing the staff to do this.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 13: I also we have an article on Patriots dot com
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 13: and Alex Francisco has been on the show before is
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 13: doing features on some of the players and employees and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 13: their causes. But I just want to go through the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 13: staff real quick. We got Ross Andler supporting same here
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 13: Global Mental Health Movement, Mackenzie Bliss supporting Samaritans, Inc. Chelsea Borty.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 13: Sorry if I've mispronounced that the myacydis Association. Danny Callahan
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 13: supporting Women's Sports Foundation, She's been on the show before.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 13: Steve Cargile supporting youth education, Lindsay Kunniff supporting the American
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 13: Liver Foundation, Dwight Darien supporting Alzheimer's Association, Jeff Dion supporting
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 13: Tourism Cares, Chris Dolan supporting Dana Farber Cancer Institute, Robin
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 13: Glazer supporting Put Me In, Jared Lewis supporting MSCPA, Angel
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 13: Kristen supporting Massi Near, Preston Rodgers supporting Hunters Harvest, and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 13: Andre Tippett supporting Foundation to Combat Anti Semitism. So, guys
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 13: check out the article on Patriots dot com. Check out
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 13: alex Is.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 7: Was.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 13: It features on all players and we'll try to bring
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 13: the shoes down for Patriots unfiltered so that everybody can
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 13: see some of the shoes we have. Once again, send
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 13: your answers in the web rad at Patriots dot com
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 13: And guys also.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Buy these game day posters.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 13: They're cool, they're awesome, get them framed, keep they're all
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 13: signed by the artist and you get a ticket certifying it.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: But Kristen, thank you for joining you having I'm going
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: to have you back on for sure.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: You die.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: Here and let's get back to the show.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 14: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 14: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 14: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 14: now it's next for residential delivery only.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: And now great moments in.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: History.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: And neither was anybody saying that Cole Strange can't play.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: But they say he struggled as a rookie and he
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: was overdrafted Paul, and that's a bad pick.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Some people say it's a bust. Yes, it's not a bus.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: Year one was a bust.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: That's not what I just said.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: And you know it, Okay, Well, what do you think
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: is going to happen. I don't think he's gonna end
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: up being like a first round but I think I.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Think it's just as stupid to say I know he's
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: going to be a pro bowler as I know he's
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: going to be a bust. Same way with Marcus Jones.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: It's not just as stupid to say the second part.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: Because he was a bust in Year one. He wasn't
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: anywhere near.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: A for well, he wasn't a bust.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: He was fred Oh, come on for one year. Like
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that ends his story as a player.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: I didn't say, you said, but in year one he
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: was in and out of the lineup due to performance.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: And like the emailer said, we knew he was going
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: to struggle.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: No I didn't. I don't pick first round picks as
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: plug and play guys that I know are going to struggle. Listen, listen,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: Then it's a bad pick.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: It's not one of the two has to be true. Well,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: we'll know it's a bad pick in a few years,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: but right now, say this.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: Is my whole thing about offensive Lineman. It's not why
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: you can get away with taking offensive lineman because no
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: one will ever call him a bust.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: You just did.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: I will, but no one.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Paul is the only one.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: Now now he's going to completely change the narrative of
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: this argument. Be snarky, make fun of me. Everybody laughs
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: at him, and then we'll just.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: People.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Do not declare offensive Lineman as readily bust you as
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Nikhil Harry.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: You are not on it was Nikhil.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: Harry a bust You are not. It was Nikhil Harry
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: a bust. Okay you was it okay to call him
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: the bust after one year?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: No? Okay, it was not.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: You're consistent, it's not okay. What do you think he's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: going to be?
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Who? I think he's going to be a fine NFL player?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's another great moment from good stuff there.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim so once again, and when people ask me,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: how come you and Fred don't argue anymore? Because Fred
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: knows I'm right.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: Well, this one thing I've learned working here is that
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: as much as you might not like it, Paul might
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: be right about a lot of things.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 9: Well.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Also, there's not much to argue these days, you know. No, No,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: I mean the evidence is right there in the record
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: and what you see on Sunday two and nine. So
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: you know, back then, I thought the Patriots are pretty good,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: you know, when they're winning super Bowls, and.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: I would just argue that too good. When I went
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: into these seasons and I said, don't worry about all
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: this small stuff. We just have to worry about what
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: potentially could cause us to not be able to host
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: the AFC Championship Game. No, one used to get mad
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: at me for making these brash, bold, you know, observations
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: and predictions, because I was telling you they're gonna win
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: twelve at thirteen games, They're going to host the AFC
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: Championship Game and have every opportunity to win the Super Bowl,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: because that's what I thought the talent level indicated. So
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: when the talent level indicates what it does now and
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: I said, well, and I'm still getting it thrown back
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: in my face on my shows. They asked me what
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: the ceiling was and I said, I don't know, seven
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: or eight wins. The look of utter disgust on Mike
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: Felger's face when I said.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: That they've actually changed the speed of the Sunshine dot.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Com song, Well, you know it's a whole different song, right, Well, it's.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: Lyrics, it's the same tune, same but they've changed the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: minor key Sunshine.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: I Stay inside Today.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's actually pretty clever what they wrote.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: Well, Jim Murray is very good at that.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: We had the trivia at the halftime. We gave away
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: the poster.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: What have we got for trivia questions? Freddy? Here we go.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: The Patriots are currently on a blank game. Winning streak
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: against the Chargers.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: Well, you guys had this day seven seven.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: Is correct, Sam and Maryland got that right, you guys.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: The Patriots and Chargers have met forty four times, including
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: regular and postseason. How many times of the Patriots shut
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: out the Chargers.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: Once forty three to nothing in twenty.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Twenty, According to this three times I took a shot,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Alex and Raleigh, North Carolina got that.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: If you say it with confidence, sometimes people will buy it.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: I was surprised when I was ready for you to like,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: that's wrong.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: No, I have no wrong, absolutely no idea. I just
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: remember we shut them out in the COVID years.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Okay. And finally, the first matchup between the Patriots and
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: the Chargers took place in October of nineteen sixty. The
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Patriots shut out the Chargers, scoring how many points google it,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, twenty eight thirty five. It was so clear,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: touchdown away. Joel at Hull got that, all right? Joel,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: So someone has just occupied the empty seat, has turned,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: has turned?
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: Has turned?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: All right? Eric? What heavan? I mean? I did it again?
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: It's okay, I did it again, old habitste heart.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: I would take offense that I don't blame you. Somebody.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: Somebody said to me the other day, well, you're better
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: than that artsy guy. I can't I can't remember his name. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: you know people.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Are that's great. I have no formal but Eric would
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: have taken that as a compliment because he fashioned himself
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: as an artsy guy renaissance man.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: Anyway, the Patriots are missing both their rookie wide receivers
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: to Mario Douglas and Kaishan Boody. Not Boody was in
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: a non contact jersey yesterday, right, I don't believe.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: So that's what someone on the Twitter machine said, Well,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: everybody was in color. Was not Someone said that he
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: was in a non contact jersey. But to your point, maybe.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: Someone everyone's in red jerseys.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: Someone the whole was.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: In red jerseys.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: So he didn't have like a black jersey.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: Not what I saw, or so Kaishan Boody and we
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: would have that, that's something that we would have. Someone
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: reported Kaishan Boody not at practic this undisclosed reason.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: Shoulder who knows injury.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: So he's on the injury port with the shoulder injury.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: But I don't know if maybe he aggravated I don't know.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: I don't want to assume anything.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: The new kicker, matthew Wright was out there. Uh, and
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: Matthew Sexton, I think is the receiver name that they
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: signed yesterday was not so they signed They signed him
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: for one day, is what it looks like, because the
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: kicker is wearing the number and everything.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: So just discover.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: We're taking attendance and Alex is like, you know, forty seven.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: I classed off forty seven and I'm like, oh, that's
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: the He's like, who's forty seven? I was like, oh,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: that's the new the new receiver. On the practice call,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: he's like he's kicking. It's like he could do it all.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: He's like Wes well Man.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: Alex got real excited for a second.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: On the roster it says it's this receiver. So yeah,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: it turns out that the receiver was out the door
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: in one day. But Matthew Wright does have some experience
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: kicking in the league, and I guess he was cut
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: by the Falcons on Tuesday, So maybe it's possible that
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: the Patriots didn't know he would be available and that's
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: why they'd signed up somebody for any So.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: Did you get to see anything beyond stretching.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: No, no, that's why I gave a really long answer
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: to attendance. That's all I got.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: And because just in related to that kicker thing. You
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: know that list of thirteen tryouts, he wasn't one of
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: them because he was probably still on the Falcons practice
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: squad at that time. But you do wonder if they
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: wanted it. Well, I guess they just wanted them for
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: the practice squad. So we had to get released.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shells, yeah, no, no paths today and ten degrees
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: warmer than yesterday, much warmer, a little bounce in people's stay.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: It was much better.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: I was talking to I don't know if they already
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: would say, but I was talking to someone in particular
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: that and you know, very very dejected about the state
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: of the team.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: And you know we both tell Michael cheer him up. Yeah,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: it was Ke's really down. It was right, That was
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: my first what you were talking to? Mike is really down?
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: Who I love talking to, by the way, great conversation.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: He's the greatest, he's the best.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: He's as as good of a guy as it appears
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: from the outside. But we walked a little bit uh,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: you know, to practice, and he's god like, just what
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 5: do we do?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: You know, just very down Mike takes a personal Yeah,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: And I would think we're talking about Mike greecee by
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: the way, as.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: A professional, like he is a consummate professional. I would
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: think that there would be a part of him that
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: will kind of embrace this chance to have to cover
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: a team that's not what he's been covered for twenty years,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: you know, like it's hard, like it's hard for us
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: to write, you.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: Know, it's changed the narrative. Yeah, Like you know, like journalistically,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: like I know, I cashed in that hat a long
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: time ago, you know, like I'm not necessarily looking to
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: break anything. But like as a journalist, wouldn't you be
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: looking at It's like, well, yeah, if I can find
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: out if Bill's going or staying before anybody else, if
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: I can find out who you're hiring before anybody else,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: Like I would look at that. It's like opportunities.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: Journalistically, all the quarterbacks are on they talk about like
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: Hardy's thing, the action is the juice, Like that's what
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: you do this for.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: I think there was a lot of that going around,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: Like I'm giving credit to guys like Andrew Callahan and
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: Mark Daniels and Doug like those guys have reported a
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: lot about this team, and like everybody kind of got
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: on Andrew for the eighty twenty report and stuff like
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: that a little bit, but I think it was probably
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: pretty accurate.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Obviously. You know, if you could get to Robert or
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Kraft or Bill Belichick himself and they were willing
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: to tell you, that'd be the easy way. But if
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: you were a Capital J journalist and you're looking for
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: the answer about what's going to happen when of the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: seasons over, what path would you go to get to
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: the answer? You know that's realistic. I can't reveal my sources.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: You got to try to.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: I would.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: I would be looking at people really close to Bill
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: that you have a relationship with, and see if you
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: can get a conversation, get a fee, and then do
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: that with two or three different people. Now, that might
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: not give you anything concrete, but it might give you
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: a lot of valuable background.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Agents and Ernie Adam, Now the only.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: Thing about his agent is very tight lipped.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: And also agents are going to tell you what they
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: want to tell you. They're not always going to tell
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: you so you don't have to do a lot.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: But I mean, like a lot of people around him
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: that people know, you know, can a guy like Mike
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: Reese pick up the phone and call Josh McDaniels and
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: Matt Patricia, you know people like that. And I'm not
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: telling you that's going to give you the answer, but
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: it could provide some insight, you know. And I'm sure
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: those guys are making those kinds of calls, and that's
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: what I would be looking at. I mean, I wouldn't
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: want to do that every year. You don't want to
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: be in a coaching search every couple of years, you
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: know it is, and you never have an off day.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Remember I don't know, Paul if you remember, but the
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: year Parcels last year and they go to the Super
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Bowl and there was all that contract or see the
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: week leading up you know Parcells is leaving. There was
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: that guy that old high school coach that Parcels took
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl read something. I forget his last
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: name for me, but like he was kind of saying
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: some stuff before.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: You're just a friend of Parcels.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he actually was on what.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: You find out who's He was actually on the plane
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: with us going to the Super Bowl, and I knew
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: who he was, and he walked by me and I
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: grabbed his wrist and I said, gee, I hope Bill
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't leave, hoping he would say something to me. You know,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: it was like he was an old time.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: Do you remember when when Pete Carroll left and Brian
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: and I wrote that story about like potential candidates, Like
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: we had all the candidates that were in the news,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: you know, like we gotta come up with one on
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: our own. We were just like, who can we come
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: up with? Friends?
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Like, what do you guys doing? He's yelling at him.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: I don't remember you didn't come up with one?
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: What you may have?
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: I think that that is interesting, you know who's next
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: and all this type of stuff. But I think for
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: people like like me and people like Mike Reese, based
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: off of our conversation, there's still six weeks left of
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: the season, So how many times can you write the
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: column of you know, it's it's falling apart?
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: And for you, I get it because you're I mean you,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: your lifeblood is breaking down these games, and like for
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: you to have to watch the offense of that game
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: last week I do. I'm not even I did it
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: for you, but but the other guys that are like
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: you should be writing an Andrew Callahan piece every week.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I would do. I would try to
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: identify a coach who was in a similar situation in
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: the history, in the past, and say, what was it
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: like in that last season where you know, before you
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: there's all the.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: You know, the Shulas, the Landry comparisons.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: That are coming out now, yeah they're gone, But I
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: mean someone who's alive, who was in a similar position where.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: I remember writing a feature on it, sort of coaching burnout,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: you know, like guys that you know, and I had
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: talked to vermil I had talked to Jim Morrow. Jim
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: Morrow was absolutely fantastic talking about the playoffs, playoffs like
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: that whole thing, and it couldn't have been better. Like
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: that's the kind of stuff. These things you can tie
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: them in like Caren would be great at that. Karen
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: Grigan would be able to find someone who sort of
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: played out the string and kind of knew what was
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: it like, you know, what was the last month of
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: the season, like when you kind of knew you were
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: probably going to be done, you know.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what were your assistant coaches doing? Were they making
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: phone calls? Like what was the mood? But I think
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: now they would open up, you know, they would open up.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: I do wonder where where Billy O's Head's at with
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: all of this, because he, regardless of what happens to
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: Bill the Bill Belichick, the results have clearly been terrible
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: on offense and he didn't do the job that he
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: was hired to do.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: He didn't fix it. He made it worse.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: Not on Tuesday, Yeah, he didn't make it worse, but
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: it became worse under his watch. So whether it's Belichick
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: or it's it's Ben Johnson, there's probably a chance that
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: he's gone either way. And I just wonder what's next
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 5: for him. You know, that's a guy that I would
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: try to call is like, all right, you know, are
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 5: you talking to a college program?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: Are you?
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: You know, are you're putting feelers out there where you're
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: gonna go next? Because especially with McDaniel's being a free
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 5: agent now, you have to wonder if.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: A yeah, like is he one?
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: And Doney, I've thought about that a lot. I think
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: he might be all right, it's.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: That time of the week, Oh oh yeah, let's hear it, Paul.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: Already, Paul, what happened down well? I mean you could
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: tell by the the boyish excitement the other week. So
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: let's see here. There was a tie at the top
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: between Mike as you can already tell, and Fred thirteen
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: and three. Very good week, boys, uh, followed by Paul
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: at eleven and five, and Alex and Evan at ten
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: and six. So you can see it was a pretty
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: good week for everybody. With the spread. It was also
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: Mike at twelve and four, followed by Evan ten and six.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: Kind of role reversal, the two worst with the spread
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: the way I'm just saying context.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: And then Alex, Paul and Fred all nine and seven.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't care about the spread, queen is
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: so you should. That's what separates the anyone can be
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: over five hundred straight up. That's okay.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: Alex continues to lead. I did I did chop a
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: game off of her lead this week. She's one sixteen
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: and sixty four. I am one twelve and sixty eight. Uh.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: Fred is one ten and seventy and then Evan and
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: Mike are tied at one oh nine and seventy one
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: with the spread Paul eighty nine, eighty three and eight,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: followed by Alex At eighty seven, eighty five and eight,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: Fred eighty six, eighty six and eight, Evan eighty three,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: eighty nine and eight, and despite Mike's twelve and four
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: Mark Mike eighty ninety.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: Two in well, I'm told that the spreads all that matters.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: That's right. Hey, there you go. That's I'm coming back.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: You're not all right?
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: All right, you're in second to last week, so I
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: just want to be okay.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Possibly a good game tonight and eight, possibly eight to
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: fifteen on Prime. The six and five Seahawks, speaking of
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll are at the eight and three Cowboys.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Dallas by nine.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 5: It's important to remember that these two teams had the
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 5: full week because they both played on Thanksgiving.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: So it's very very important to remake a short week.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: Can I just ask Mike if you have anything from Alex?
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: She did. She texted us okay on slack, Okay, I
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: can join to read them to you. Yeah, I will
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: do so.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: Then I want to have to put my glasses on.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: Well, I will lead us off, though, I'm gonna take
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: Dallas to win. And I know Evan just said that
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: they've had a full week. I still think Thursday night
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: games are weird. I'm gonna take the points for Seattle.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: There's Ox going for me. You go, I gotta pull Okay,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Dallas as well. I'm gonna go
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 5: with with Dallas both ways. I don't really like what
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: Seattle's put out there.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take Dallas both ways too. I like
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: Mike's rationale. I think those Thursday night games tend to
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: be a little bit mucked up. But the fact that
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: it's a full week, the fact that Dallas has been
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: rolling at home, I'm gonna lay the points.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: If I could tease this down to two and a half,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: I would, and then I take the Cowboys both ways.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: But I can't. So I'm gonna take the Cowboys. But
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take those points.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: It's it's amazing that he actually did that reasonably.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: Locked us right into it. Alex's Dallas both.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: Ways, Dallas both ways for us, But I don't know
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: what I'm talking about.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: Can I do that?
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: I think maybe you would add it a half point,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: but if you teased it, it would go from nine
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: to three I believe I would love to have like
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: lift shots come for like one of these, just to
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: watch his head explode. Can you imagine how mad he
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: would get? Like Fred Fred, not Fred, your Fred toucher.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: We'll just say, like the most innocuous thing, like what
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: do you like that?
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 9: What I like? Like?
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: He's funny.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: I liked it all right. One o'clock Games, Fox, eight
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: and three, Lions reeling over Thanksgiving loss against the five
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: and six Saints.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: Detroit by four.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: Interesting little spot here for the Lions trying to bounce
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: back on the road against the Saints team, and you
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: know what I like them to do it. I'm gonna
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: take Detroit. I would lay the points and Dallas. I'm sorry,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: Alexandra does the same.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Lions both ways. I think they
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 5: bounce back.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. Talk to my boy Hardy about
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: this and he shares the I'm gonna take Yeah, he's
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: a little shook, he's a little nervous. I'm gonna take down.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: Why do I keep saying Dallas Detroit both ways? But
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: I am a little, uh a little hesitant to do that.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna hedge my bets I'll take the Lions,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna take them points. I was tempted to
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: take the Saints outright, man, but home, that's you know,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: that's the feel of the one o'clock Fox game five
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: and six. Falcons. They're kind of my Detroit Lions this year.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: Uh you can you can never get them right, no
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: matter which way you pick them. Struggling against the four
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: and seven Jets, who of course have a new participant
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: in practice as of this week.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: A Uh yeah, I think I think this is gonna
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: be a little bit of a distraction for the Jets
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: this week. I think with Aaron Rodgers back of practice.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take Atlanta both ways, and Alex does
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: the same.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: I'm also gonna take Atlanta both ways. Tim Boyle was worse, Well,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: he's a terrible quarterbacks. He was worse than Zaq Weell.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: I didn't think you could be worse than Zack Wilson.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: He was worse than Zack Wilson.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Jets here at home,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: and it will have nothing to do with Tim Boyle.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: I think the defense will take the ball away from
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: a Falcons team that shouldn't be in a position to
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: ever think, well, this is a win for us on
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: the road, and I think that they will have that
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: kind and I think that the distraction of Aaron Rodgers
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: could actually help them because it's less talk about how
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: bad they are this week and more talk about Aaron Rodgers.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: So I don't know. I'll roll the dice and say
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: the Jets win a game.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a Costanza, I would pick the Jets.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go against what I want to do, and
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the Falcons. One o'clock CBS, two to
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: ten Cardinals against the seven and four Steelers.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh by five and a half. Another offensive coordinator change
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: leads to the first four hundred yard game and fifty
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: nine games for Pittsburgh. How's that? How's Matt Canada? There?
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: Like literally, it's been fifty nine games since they got
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: four hundred yards of offense and he did it in one.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, Canada.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: Well, you just talked me into a pall and thinking Pittsburgh,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: I'll lay the points, Alex.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: That wasn't my intention.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: Alex has Pittsburgh, but she took the points for Arizona.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna take Arizona in this game. I think
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: Arizona's a little bit frisky. I think I think Kyler
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: Murray is playing well, and I think that they play
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 5: hard for that coach, even though they only have two wins.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: I know that sounds crazy, but I think that they
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: compete every single week.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: I agree about Arizona in general, and for that reason,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take the points, but I will take
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh at home to win.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take Pittsburgh both ways in this game.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: They they got something going over there Sunday at one
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: CBS six and five Colts are at the four and
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: seven Titans.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: Indeed, by one, nobody's watching this game.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: Man, that's tough.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: It's a tough one. Ah, I don't know.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go game. I'm gonna go with Tennessee at home.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not really sure why.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: I can tell you.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: Uh. And Alex actually to the same.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: Has he ever not picked He picked Tennessee every week
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: because of Mike. Every now and then.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: The hen they'll be playing the seven Patriots and Micha
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: wil being I'm gonna take Titans.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: Well, he couldn't because he played for the seven Patriots conundrum.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: Conundrum.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Colts in this game.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: I think the Titans are are reeling a little bit.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: I know they won last week, right, Yeah, but I did.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: It was an ugly win, and I'm gonna take I'm
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: gonna take the Colts.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know how the Colts are doing it,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: but I give that guy a lot of credit to
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: Shane Stikeen. I mean that they're They're competitive in every game,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: They're over five hundred, They're in the playoff mix. I'll
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: take them to win this game.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, division game. Rabel kind of coaching for his life here.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for the Titans in this game.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: So we had an emailer a short time ago that
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: kind of liked when we do NFL at large, did
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: you guys I talked a little bit about that Florio thing,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: I think yesterday with Rabel. Oh yeah, yeah, right, So
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: I think that's interesting that, you know, Rabel's fine, but
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: he might not want Tennessee anymore. So I just thought
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: that that kind of whole dynamically.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was when he came back for his Hall
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: of Fame ceremony and some of the comments of like
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: you don't know how good you have it here and
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: ownership and this and that. I was starting to think
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: that maybe he didn't want to be there anymore either.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm gonna take Titans one o'clock Fox, eight
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: and three. Dolphins are at the four and eight Commanders
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Miami by nine and a half.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: That's a big number. But I'm gonna continue with my again,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: still workshopping this. Miami on the road north of the
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: you know North not going to do well. I'm gonna
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: take Washington's points. I'm too big Miami to win.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 5: Though Miami won thirty four to thirteen last week in
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 5: New York.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: So yet might be colder this week. I told her
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 4: I was still working on it. What does Alex have here?
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: Usually she usually skips, oh, Miami, Miami.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm taking Miami both ways too.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will take Miami both ways. I think Washington,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 3: that little shine on Sam Howell might might be gone.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: This is my upset of the week. Commander's outright wow Yep.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: Sunday at one CBS, the Broncos are at the Texans
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: in a rare road game. They're gonna have three in
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: a row. The league is really they're making the stick. Yeah,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: make up.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: About us, this is this is not true.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: It's makeup time for the Broncos. Two six and five
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: teams who had that No kidding.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: These two teams in the playoff structure are on the
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: periphery of the playoff Houston by three and a half.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Alex said, Houston and Houston. I'm gonna I'm
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 4: gonna do the same though, Houston at home.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: C J.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: Stroud, sign me up.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 5: This one's a tough one. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: take I'm gonna take the Broncos. I think they're That
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: defense has just been playing lights out. And I still
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: think that c J. Stroud's is he's a rookie court
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 5: He's a very good rookie quarterback. But I think that
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: the the Broncos are gonna have something up their sleep
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: for him.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm gonna ride the hot hand too. I'm gonna
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: take the Broncos on the road. But I do expect
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: this to be a good game.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: I thought i'd be standing alone in this one, but
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going with the Broncos as well. They've been hot. Yeah,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: not that the Texans haven't been playing well, but I
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: think the young quarterback, as Evan said, Sean Payton experience
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: his head coach against him.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: So I don't like the way that Texans spent the
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: week whining about and I don't even know what all
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: the calls were. I'm sure they got screwed too, because
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: the officiating in this league I think is at at
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: all time worst. But they spent the whole week bitching
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: about them getting screwed against Jacksonville. I don't think that's
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: a good mindset.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna skip over the one o'clock game
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: for the Patriots and move to four oh five. The
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: one in ten Panthers are at the four and seven.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: Buccaneers Tampa by five. Maybe they can finally get in
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: the win column for.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: Young Baker may Baker Mayfield. Yeah, Carolina fire their coach, don't.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's gonna be a boost this week.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Tampa Bay and I'm gonna lay the points.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: Wow, showing the coaching change bump?
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: Feel different? Yeah?
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: What do you got there for Alexandra? Sorry?
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: Uh, she's got Tampa Tampa.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 5: Normally I would take the coaching angle here, but I
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: think I'm gonna take Tampa. I'm gonna take the though,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 5: I'll take Carolina to cover. I think they compete in
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: this game division game.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing. I think Carolina
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: has been competing, they just haven't been able to muster
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: enough offense. I'll take Tampa to win. They'll take the
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: five points.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to Tampa too. You know, I don't
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: think they get the coaching bump that we saw earlier
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: this year with U Raiders. The Raiders one of the
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: reasons is.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: They're not playing the Jets.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: One of the reasons is like Giants without Daniel Jones.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: You know, these players aren't stupid. They know like what's
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: happened over the last few years with this team. And
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: then they probably saw the press conference that the owner had,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: like are you like excited about being on that team?
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: You know, like that was not a you know, a
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: confidence inspiring press conference if you ask me. So, I
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of ambivalence in that locker room.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: And I think it. You know, they're one and ten,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: so it's not like, uh, but I don't think they
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: win this game and get any bumps. So Buccaneers both
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: ways yep, four to twenty five, seven and four Browns
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: are at the five and six Rams, the.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: Lar by three and a half DTR three and nine.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: No Joe fla.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: I believe it's Joe Flacco.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 5: That's why the line is what it is.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: Huh, Yeah, forget it. I'm gonna take the Rams and
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: the Rams coming on a little bit.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: I think they're I know you don't want to hear
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: this because you make fun of me, and I don't
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: want to take away a little bit because it is funny. Yeah,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: but the Rams have been fine when Stafford's played.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: Oh so that two those two games, how often does
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: he played this year?
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: I think he's missed one and a half games. They
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: lost him both and they're five and six.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: Well, he didn't show up in the others. But okay,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: go ahead, Lar Lar for for Alex.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 3: Just I'm just saying, if you don't, I think they're
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: a decent team. I don't think they're a good team
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: by any stretch, but I think they're decent.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I think I got the Rams both
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 5: ways in this game. They have enough with Stafford. I
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: don't know if is Cup gonna play in this game.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 5: You know they haven't that like star power? They saw
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: Aaron Donald on defense.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: I believe I believe Cup played last week.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm going to take the rams.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take the rams both ways too? Did Alex?
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: Did I miss Alex? Okay? Yeah?
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: I mean if the Browns had a quarterback, I'd be
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: picking them in that game.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: De Sseean Watson was playing, it would be a different story.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: But rams both ways for five?
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: How that works?
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: Un fucking starting quarterback is eight and three? Forty nine
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: ers are at the ten to one Eagles.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: Game of the season thus far, gentlemen. Uh the Niners
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: by three on the road.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 5: Wow, Eagles Bills was pretty darn good.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: Oh that I mean the way the game unfolded that
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: was the best playing is the best matchups it is?
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: So is that disrespect for the Eagles a little bit?
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: Because I know if it was the Patriots, and the
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: Patriots nation would be saying, yeah, what would they be saying?
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you don't just say Patriots, Patriots, Patriots?
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: They I was I was.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 4: Almost gonna go San Francisco. I still think this is
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: San Francisco's year. But I'm gonna take Philly in this one.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: At home. I just think you get the better quarterback
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 4: right now, and it's hard to see. I mean, I
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 4: don't than Brock Party. It's tough NFC Championship. I mean
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 4: this could decide where it's played, kind of like the
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: O three Patriots Colt scheme, you know, like this regular
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: season meeting, maybe this one decides where they meet in
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: the NFC Championship. I'm going Philly.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: And what are those four pointers, Mike, Yeah, like the
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: old Norris Division battles in the NHL.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 4: And what what does Alex? San Francisco, San Francisco.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going with the Eagles in this game.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: I with Fred, it's disrespectful that the Eagles, who have
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 5: the better record, uh and won the game last year,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: are dogs at home? Disrespect Come on, Eagles.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: Win the Eagles.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: You know they gave the slip that they won the
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: game last year.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: I think by me, right, I mean, does it it's
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: Brock Party or you know one are the other options.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, it doesn't make a difference. I don't think so.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: I think actually having a quarterback does make a difference, though,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: I will take San Francisco and I do not think
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: it will be particularly close. I think the Eagles have
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: been walking a tight rope for about a month and
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: a half now, and San Francisco will not let them
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: get away with that.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the Eagles are pulling it out right,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: you know, put it out, put on the table. Yeah,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: but I don't think they're gonna show it to this game.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: I think I think the forty nine Ers win and
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: they cover in this game, but it's Eagles.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: Are Oh yeah, don't make my pick. I think the
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: Eagles are excellent. I just feel like they've won a
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: lot of close games that a lot of sort of
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: controversial things have gone their way. It's bound to Yeah,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: that's fair, it's bound And I still think the Eagles
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: are very good. And I agree with Mike. I think
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: this will probably be the NFC champion.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 5: If the if the Eagles don't win the Super Bowl,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 5: then it's going to come down to something like that
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: where a lot of their game they've won a lot
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 5: of one score games there No.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and last year I think you know, everybody said
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: that about Minnesota, but this team is far more talented
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: than Minnesota.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: Eight twenty on Sunday on very sure, the eight and
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: three Chiefs are at the five and six Packers, Chiefs
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: by six, Chiefs.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: By six, Uh yeah, I like it. I'm going to
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: take Kansas City. I'll lay the points. Alex did the same.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 5: I'm also going to take Kansas City both ways. I
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 5: think that Packers game was a blip. I don't think
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: that they're against the Lions. I mean, yeah, I think
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 5: that was a one game thing.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean if the Chiefs turn it over like
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: the Lions did, they'll be in trouble too, right. I
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: agree with you guys. I'll take the Chiefs. Look like
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: they got a little of their offense back last week
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 3: against the Raiders, and I think that continues.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: Same here, Chiefs both ways. Monday Night, eight fifteen on ESPN, ABC,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: ESPN two, ESPN Deportes. The five and six Bengals are
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: at the eight and three Jaguars.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: I wonder if the Burrow injury happened after the window
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: to flex this baby. Jacksonville by nine.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 4: Nin gimme Jacksonville and I'll yeah, I'm gonna lay the nine.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 4: And Missus Francisco did the same.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: So Jacksonville's went eight out of their last nine games.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: I think it is, which is a pretty good run
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: for them. I like the Jaguars as well, and I
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 5: like them not enough to cover it, though. I think
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: eight points a lot of points for Jacksonville. Right now,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: I still think the Bengals are competitive.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm gonna do the same thing.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: Nine points is a lot Monday night game. They'll they'll
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: show up. I thought they played hard last week against Pittsburgh.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: I think they'll do it again. And then maybe you
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: have to look out below and see what happens.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will what game we told Jacksonville. I will
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: go with Jacksonville both ways. Ride that Trevor Lawrence train.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: All right. Now we go back to one o'clock on Sunday,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: we have to the four and seven Chargers are at
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: the two and nine Patriots. Remember those days when the
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: Chargers would come for one one o'clock.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: Damn, you could pencil it in, right, I think the uh,
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: this is a stunning line to me. The four and
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: seven Chargers are favored by five and a half points
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: in your building.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: But you're not stunned by that.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, but Bailey's appy starts, I don't know, move the
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 5: line in the Patriots just well.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: I think it did move her from six to five
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: and a half. But just last week, Fred, the Patriots
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: were favored on the road. Just last week.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, I can't. I can't do it.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 4: I can't even. I can't even. I'm gonna take the
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: Chargers in this one. I just quarterback. I think I
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: do think that the Patriots will and I mean they're
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: not going to get run off the field by this
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 4: this Chargers team. And it might be petitive early on,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: but I think the Chargers just have the better quarterback,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 4: the better weapons, and I think they'll score more points.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: I got Charges twenty four to thirteen. Alex She's Chargers Chargers.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: I have a similar score to Deuce.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 5: I think that the Patriots do get a boost from
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: Bailey Zappi, but I think that there's just too much
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 5: offense for the Chargers. I had the Chargers twenty three sixteen.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's a decent thk.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 4: They're really going to get that extra field goal.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: I did twenty three sixteen.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with the little more offense with Zappi,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: just not as much. And it's the same. Yeah, it's
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: the same. It's twenty I have twenty three thirteen Chargers.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: I just feel like unless it's one of those deals
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: where the Chargers come in and turn it over all
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: over the place. I don't see the Patriots putting together
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: enough drives to win.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was tempted to take the Patriots outright, just
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: just because, just for old time's sake.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: But I can't do it like Tessio.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't do it.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: Thirty one thirteen, thirty thirteen, You we're gonna take the Patriots,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: and then you picked thirty one thirteen.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: Just for old times sake, not based on anything I do.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: I do wonder for this game with the Patriots blow
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 5: me away. I'm looking at this game. I know everybody's
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 5: gonna look at Bailey Zappy, but I'm really looking at
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 5: the defense in this game, because you hold back to
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 5: back opponents to ten points, and everybody's kind of saying, oh,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 5: it was a good defense, Were they right? And I
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: watching the film back of both those games, there were
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 5: so many more opportunities for the Colts and the Giants
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 5: to make plays that I feel like they didn't because
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 5: of who was playing quarterback. And if I'm right, then
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 5: Justin Herbert is gonna score thirty one points against them
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 5: like Fred predicted. If I'm wrong, then maybe the defense
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: is still frisky, you know, at two a nine, as
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 5: frisky as you could possibly be.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just think it's just gonna at
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: some point in the game, it's just gonna just fall
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: apart and we're gonna lose control.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: Break So ten five on Sunday you want to catch
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: a point, it's just at some point it's just gonna
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: all fall apart. Can you get that drop? So we
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: can include that in the pregame show, Matt.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: Next, all right, So that's the picks for this week.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: That in the open to the Tuesday show, see what happened.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: Keenan Allen o miss practiced yesterday. That was a little
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: bit he did.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: I would like to see what happens today on that.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: But if he does not play, then they don't have
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: a lot of weapons now they have none.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: Got a few minutes here, emails still coming in. Bradley
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: writes in Evan Commy, He says, is Evan a communist?
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: Or does he just hate football? It's not just un
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: American to hate Army Navy. It shows you're just a casual.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: But didn't get that football isn't only about the modern
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: day scoring. The passing. Evan loves to watch from the
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: All thirty three. It's about the trenches and there's no
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: better example of that the Army, Navy Boo Evan, the trenches.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: I look, I said on earlier in Catch twenty two,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 5: I'm going to back off the arm maybe take because
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: somebody's gonna take it the wrong way. No, I just
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 5: no one said anything, but I just I didn't want
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 5: people to take it the wrong way that it's like
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: a take against the military, because that's totally not where
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 5: I'm at. Like, that's not that's not where I'm sure.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: He's just about football.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 5: It's all about the trenches. Like please, like how many
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 5: different types of ways I agree.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 4: I like the use of casual, though I haven't realized
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: the casual. That's like an insult now among football fans.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: Casual it's like calling you you're a casual. Yeah, you're
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: a pink cat, right.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, these casuals like they know right.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: L from Wisconsin about uniforms. Uh, watching the Black Friday game,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: the Jets uniforms were great. How cool would a Patriots
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: black uniform with red accents?
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 9: Be?
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: Make it happen? Now, I'm not.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: A big fan of the black uniform.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 5: It feels like the only black uniform I like is
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 5: the Cardinals. The Cardinals black uniforms are sweet.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: But that's pretty cool, you know raiders know well, I
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: mean like that's the one.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's talking about all. I actually like the like
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: the Falcons when they were when they that it wasn't bad.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: I like the red better.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 5: But yeah, that one's good too.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 4: More uniforms. I'm for all of it. More uniforms, throw
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 4: them all out, I'm not no, no, So what are
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 4: the charges gonna wear this week?
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: What was the the throwback that you don't like that
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: you didn't want to see? It's part of your question.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 4: I haven't done the round tap?
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: Do you not even think about these things?
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 9: No?
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 4: I like to pose them.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, I'm really.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: Am the first one that puts it in every week?
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: Aren't I? You were this week? Yeah? Uh? And finally,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: Stevie in Texas writes in I love that emailer calling
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: out callers, not that I agree with him. The highlight
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: of this show today is going to be when William
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: and Philam calls in from the freezer at work to
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: defend himself. Also, I think a lot of people have
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: been worried about what Bill will do with the first
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: round pick. I think it's guaranteed he gets the right
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: player if picking. I'm worried about what he would do
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: with the same and a third round pick.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: You think it's guarantee?
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: Why would I be guarantee?
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: You?
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: Is it guaranteed?
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: What has he done with his first round picks outside
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: of Cold Strain or Christian Zalez? That makes it guaranteed?
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition of
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered ten. Okay, yeah, so you guys did all
• 1:56:19
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