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An Unlikely Affair: Things Are Getting a Little Heated · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hi, Amber, hilelah, Welcome to an unlikely affair. Hey, babe's
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  Speaker 1: welcome to an unlikely affair. I am here with my
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  Speaker 1: sister wife Amber. Hello, gorgeous, Hi baby, how are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm excellent. I worked out this morning. I told myself
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  Speaker 1: no more breaks, and I have not I smell. I'm
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  Speaker 1: actually glad you're not next to me. I'm very glad.
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  Speaker 1: Easton was like, yo, you then you are ripe.
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  Speaker 2: Did you work out at home?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just easier that way. Have you been have
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  Speaker 1: you been doing pilates and stuff?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: I just did yan yoga on the floor like before
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  Speaker 2: we started recording, and then I've been going to the gym.
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  Speaker 2: I got to get out of the house.
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  Speaker 1: That counts. That all counts. What's yan yoga?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yan Yoga's is like I call it lazy man yoga,
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  Speaker 2: but it really isn't. It's basically like meditation, but you're
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  Speaker 2: holding poses for three to five minutes.
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  Speaker 1: No, that sounds legit.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's so good when I'm when I'm there, we'll
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  Speaker 2: do it together. I have this guy that I follow
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube and I started during the pandemic and it
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  Speaker 2: literally just centered me. I can't I'm not great with
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  Speaker 2: regular yoga because I have really weak wrist, so this
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  Speaker 2: is kind of like I could just lay on the
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  Speaker 2: floor and watch something and like sit in a pose
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  Speaker 2: and it really gets into like the fascia of your muscles,
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  Speaker 2: which is like the layer underneath that like actually support
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  Speaker 2: your skeletal system. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Muscles were wrapped in. Am I misinformed? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the fashion was what your muscles I need
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  Speaker 1: to take like an anatomy class, So.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you're right. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Google it. No, I'm proud of us because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I get my body to where I want it
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  Speaker 1: to be, and then something comes up where I've got
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  Speaker 1: back to back like super early mornings, and I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we'll pick back up next week. But then I look
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  Speaker 1: at the following week and it's like, oh shit, I'm
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  Speaker 1: leaving town and I just fall off. And the moment
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  Speaker 1: that I do that you can work for an entire
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  Speaker 1: year on a slam and body, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you take one week off and your body is back
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  Speaker 1: to look in like the Grinch. And maybe that's just
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  Speaker 1: my experience, but I'm like, I refuse.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I told myself when because I think this
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  Speaker 2: going to the gym has to be this huge production.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be. If I say, Okay, Amber,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna go there, You're gonna get on the treadmill
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  Speaker 2: for thirty minutes. You're not gonna run. I tell myself,
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  Speaker 2: you're not gonna run. You're gonna do a three speed
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  Speaker 2: at a twelve incline right to really at least work
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  Speaker 2: the back of your legs. And then sometimes I get
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  Speaker 2: motivated to run if I'm listening to like a good
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  Speaker 2: rap song and then I go and I do, like
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  Speaker 2: You're like, okay, you're gonna do three exercises now, always
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  Speaker 2: want more because like once those endorphins start, you know,
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  Speaker 2: flowing through my body, I'm like, oh man, I feel good.
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  Speaker 2: Let's keep doing it. And I end up being there
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  Speaker 2: for like like a full hour, which is great. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that is a trick yourself. Well, I think the hardest
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  Speaker 2: part about getting to the gym is getting to the gym.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the hardest part of the entire workout is
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  Speaker 1: like getting me to start.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They say the heaviest way at the gym as
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  Speaker 2: the front door.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I know, but I was talking to Jenna, who
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  Speaker 1: you know, she comes to the house and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm in a cave. I think I am
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  Speaker 1: going to get the gym membership, and because right after
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  Speaker 1: I had Sosa, like it just seemed easiest to work
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  Speaker 1: out at the house, Like I knew that I would
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  Speaker 1: make it there because I'm just here already. So now
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I think we'll be able to make it
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  Speaker 1: out the door into another door. Yeah, and the steermaster
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  Speaker 1: to get that perky little ass.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know. Well, there's a couple of really
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  Speaker 2: good gyms by your house, so you do you have
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  Speaker 2: no excuses?
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  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of perky little asses, did you end up
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  Speaker 1: watching Heated Rivalry?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: The Gold though, the gold that you just took with
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  Speaker 1: the yes to follow? Tell me everything you liked you
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  Speaker 1: didn't like.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know what the heck I was getting myself
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  Speaker 2: in too, right, I had no idea. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: I have so many thoughts. I don't even know where
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  Speaker 2: to begin. Okay, at first, I was like, what is
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  Speaker 2: this show? Like, I don't really understand it. I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: expecting it, and then somehow it completely captured me and
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't figure out why, Like, this was a show
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  Speaker 2: that I was like, what do what is it about
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  Speaker 2: this show that I love? And it wasn't about gay men.
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  Speaker 2: The shows to me is not about gay men. This
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  Speaker 2: is about men in general. Right. He the creator of
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  Speaker 2: the show, did such a beautiful job at displaying the
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  Speaker 2: entire arc of the human expression, and I can't. So
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  Speaker 2: It's like the guys were tender and passionate and masculine
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  Speaker 2: and hunky, and they fought and they were lovers, and
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  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it was like boom, like
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  Speaker 2: hardcore fuck me, And I think that that's what I want.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I am desiring in a partner, someone that
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  Speaker 2: has all of that tenderness yea, the emotional availability, but
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  Speaker 2: then someone that could.
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  Speaker 1: Just be really hard I know, right or rock my world.
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  Speaker 1: That's probably yeah there, I Hey, I don't sensor yourself
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  Speaker 1: for me, I would. So this show came to my
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  Speaker 1: front door through my friends Nick and Joe, and they
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  Speaker 1: are a gay couple who I've known for a few
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  Speaker 1: years now. We go to Hawaii with them and they're
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  Speaker 1: the ones who are like, you have to watch it,
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  Speaker 1: And then I started hearing about it everywhere I turned
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  Speaker 1: for the most part it was from gay men who
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  Speaker 1: are saying, you have to watch this, you have to
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  Speaker 1: watch it. And I knew what the story was about.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I get so which
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  Speaker 1: is so weird because I'm like, not shy about anything,
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  Speaker 1: and I talk about sex all the time. But I
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  Speaker 1: get so funny when I'm watching something. It could whether
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  Speaker 1: it's two men, two women, man and woman, threesomes, one sums,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I start going, oh my gosh, this
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  Speaker 1: is intense. I don't think I can do it right now.
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  Speaker 1: I have to be in the mental headspace right And
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  Speaker 1: so it took me like four days to get through
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  Speaker 1: the first episode because the first episode is like they're
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  Speaker 1: all in right. Once I got through it, and by
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  Speaker 1: the way, I've had many people, even gay men, say
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  Speaker 1: the first episode it was really hard because I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what is this show really? I get through it finally
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, this is one of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: shows I have ever watched in my life. And them
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  Speaker 1: tying in this not random couple but one of the
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  Speaker 1: other teammates. He goes by Scott, Scott and Kip. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was like episode three, and you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is like, who's this couple? And it shows like
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  Speaker 1: their love story and it's very different from Ilia and
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  Speaker 1: Hollander's relationship, and I'm like, oh, this is fun. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: we're going to start seeing like a different They're like
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  Speaker 1: integrating them in some fun way. The entire show had
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  Speaker 1: me in my feels the entire time, and it was
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  Speaker 1: interesting to talk to other people about it because gay
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  Speaker 1: men love it and women love it. And actually, the
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  Speaker 1: actor who plays Hollander said, it's funny to me that
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  Speaker 1: straight men talk about how they can't watch it because
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  Speaker 1: of the man on man aspect. This is not verbatim
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  Speaker 1: what he said, but when it's to women hooking up,
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  Speaker 1: like everyone needs to watch it, and I think that
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  Speaker 1: that's interesting too, because I sometimes wonder, I'm like, what
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  Speaker 1: is that?
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  Speaker 2: Like? Did it?
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  Speaker 1: Does watching stuff like that make you uncomfortable? Not even
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  Speaker 1: man on man, but like just people having sex and
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  Speaker 1: it being that vivid right in front of you, or
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  Speaker 1: can you see past it to the actual story. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm asking you a very dumb question because you're an actor,
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  Speaker 1: so of course you can see past it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen I wasn't. I was never shocked
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  Speaker 2: by any of the sex scenes because I've had I've
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  Speaker 2: seen one, I've had sex, I've made two babies, and
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  Speaker 2: I've seen I've seen a bunch of different types of
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  Speaker 2: sex throughout my career as an actor, and I've experienced
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  Speaker 2: it right. I did it. I had a crazy sex
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  Speaker 2: scene in Ray Donovan with Leev Streiber, and I've done
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  Speaker 2: it in You and Aquarius and like, But I'm also
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  Speaker 2: someone who's very ope. I feel really comfortable. I know
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  Speaker 2: this sounds weird, and there's like a whole psychology thing
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  Speaker 2: behind it. I feel really comfortable doing a sex scene,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes more so than I do being intimate in my
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  Speaker 2: own personal life. And I've had that's like a hurdle
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  Speaker 2: that I've had to you know, overcome and understand and
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  Speaker 2: like pill back the layers of why. But it wasn't uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: It was and not only that, but it was shocked
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  Speaker 2: so beautifully. It wasn't bright lights, it didn't make it
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  Speaker 2: like cheesy, it wasn't performative. It was like this connection
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  Speaker 2: and they when they were silhouetted and the let I
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  Speaker 2: just it was done so so well and it was
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  Speaker 2: so beautiful to see that. You know, people say like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: they felt safe, and it's like no, like safety is
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  Speaker 2: actually what kept them from not connecting, right. They had
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  Speaker 2: to become unsafe in order to like come together and
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  Speaker 2: feel this, like be vulnerable and open and like say
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  Speaker 2: like I choose you, and I like I love you
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  Speaker 2: for who you are. I don't know, it's just the
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  Speaker 2: whole show. I literally probably cried three times throughout all
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 1: I have chills as you're talking about it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what it was about that show that it was
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  Speaker 1: like the characters and when Ilia is sitting on the
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  Speaker 1: phone and he, you know, is upset about his family
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  Speaker 1: and he never wants to come back to Russia, and
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  Speaker 1: Hollander's like, why don't you tell me how you're feeling?
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  Speaker 1: But in Russian? And that's like the first time that
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  Speaker 1: we actually hear Ilia talk about how much he loves Hollander.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, this guy, who's like, are you crying?
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  Speaker 2: I am, because that was one of the scenes that
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I think that's what the world is
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  Speaker 2: yearning for. It's like we don't need to speak the
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  Speaker 2: same language. There's so much shit going on right in
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  Speaker 2: all of different parts of the world. But just hearing
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  Speaker 2: his tone and like he was in that tunnel and
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  Speaker 2: was like, I think it was like pink, and they
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  Speaker 2: kept on going back and forth. I was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, Yes, this is it, this is it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they're comparing that to that episode specifically to Breaking Bad, which,
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  Speaker 1: as we know, Breaking Bad is like critically acclaimed, and
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  Speaker 1: they say some of those episodes are the best television
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  Speaker 1: that's ever been created thus far. And so they they've
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  Speaker 1: When I say they, I mean people who are TV
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  Speaker 1: critics are saying that that is one of the tops
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  Speaker 1: right now. And I felt the same way because there's
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  Speaker 1: not much that moves me in TV. I'm very particular.
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  Speaker 1: I tend to lean towards comedy or very very dark stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and it just the whole thing. I want to give
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  Speaker 1: it the respect that it deserves because it is. It
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  Speaker 1: is more. I tell people, you have the first episode,
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  Speaker 1: it has to be abrupt like that so that you
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  Speaker 1: understand how this started. Like we've all been in a
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  Speaker 1: situation where it starts as like we're just fucking and
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  Speaker 1: then the feelings start coming into play, and then you
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  Speaker 1: start understanding like what you want, who you are. So
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  Speaker 1: that's another level that you know. Although I consider myself
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  Speaker 1: an ally, I am not gay. I'm not a gay man,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't know what that journey looks like. But
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  Speaker 1: the way that they painted that picture that went from like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, basically just fuck buddies for one person, the
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  Speaker 1: bisexual man ilia to just this beautiful I mean, being
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  Speaker 1: caught by the dad in the final episode and him
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  Speaker 1: going and having to come out, and it's just like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the best shit I've ever
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  Speaker 1: watched in my life.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think what's so beautiful, at least for me,
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  Speaker 2: about that moment is that in those scenes and in life, right,
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  Speaker 2: we're so used to being ready to embrace the rejection,
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  Speaker 2: the shame as like the audience, we're like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: this dad is going to fucking explode, and his son's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be this masculine, like he had this idea
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  Speaker 2: of who his son was supposed to be, and it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: It Actually like the show allows you to go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's the reaction that they want, that's the action that
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  Speaker 2: we need to have. Like and I didn't know this
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  Speaker 2: going in, but the show is so healing for me, right,
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  Speaker 2: It just calmed my nervous system in a way that
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  Speaker 2: I was not expecting like at all. I love hearing that,
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  Speaker 2: and especially the scene with the mom when he comes
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  Speaker 2: to the mom and he says and like she doesn't say,
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  Speaker 2: like how dare you not be able to you know,
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  Speaker 2: like she doesn't take it on her. She says to
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  Speaker 2: him in such a kind way, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: exactly the exact lines, but she says, I'm sorry I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't make you feel like you couldn't come to.
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  Speaker 1: Me, I know on the on like this front steps,
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: And I was thinking for London and Riley. I always
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  Speaker 2: want them to be able to come to me, like
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  Speaker 2: no matter what. And I know there's gonna be some
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  Speaker 2: things that they're not gonna want to tell me. But
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: like I as a mom, I don't care if my
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: kids come to me and say, mom, guess what, Like
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  Speaker 2: I'm gay, and I think my kids know by now.
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  Speaker 2: I would say, I love you, like you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to be a half person. I want you to be
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  Speaker 2: a whole person. Don't pretend that you're a straight person
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  Speaker 2: out in the world and then you come home and
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  Speaker 2: in your room you're gay or you're having these experiences
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  Speaker 2: or feelings like just be who you are.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and that's the number one thing I think
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  Speaker 1: as a parent that I want to practice. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to put the pressure on my kids where it's like,
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  Speaker 1: for example, you have to go to college, you have
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  Speaker 1: to do this. It's like, do we need to honor commitments.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're working on right now, Ocean. You know,
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  Speaker 1: she's started something and she's like, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: do it anymore. And I'm like, we got to fulfill
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  Speaker 1: the commitment, and then once the commitment's over, we can reevaluate.
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  Speaker 1: But I just want to be that safe space where
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  Speaker 1: we know that no matter what, you can be your
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  Speaker 1: authentic self here and the pressure of the world is
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  Speaker 1: gone and you don't have to feel the weight of
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: the world on your shoulders like at home. You can
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  Speaker 1: just be you know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm learning that now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'm like, what can I do because I
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  Speaker 1: feel like my mom was does not. I think we're
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  Speaker 1: just born with a certain mind and even though you
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: grow up in you know, a home, because my mom
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  Speaker 1: is very much like you don't want to do that,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: don't do it, Like, just live life, have fun. I
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  Speaker 1: worked at a dental office because I only had to
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  Speaker 1: work three days a week, like that's her mindset, Like
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to enjoy life, but you we just give
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  Speaker 1: birth to certain minds and they go out into the
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  Speaker 1: world and sometimes we have a tremendous impact on them,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: and sometimes we don't. There are things we don't have
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  Speaker 1: control over. So I think you and I are very
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  Speaker 1: much on the same page. And watching that, I felt
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  Speaker 1: the exact same way, and it was I and I
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't compare the two at all, but it's the only
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  Speaker 1: other show that has like same sex, but it's girl
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  Speaker 1: on girl action with Brittany is it Britney Snow? Britney
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  Speaker 1: Snow and people I would not stop hearing about hunting
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  Speaker 1: wives like with everybody. It felt like and I have
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  Speaker 1: to say, I could not get through it. It was
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  Speaker 1: so triggering for me. Amber why, I don't know, watching
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  Speaker 1: the way that some of those the people on the show,
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  Speaker 1: like the guy who was running for governor and his
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  Speaker 1: wife and I what's the actress's name? They had to
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: put her in a red wig, oh Malin Ackerman. So
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  Speaker 1: by the way, I love her, She's a great actress.
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  Speaker 1: But watching it and the amount of dishonesty and what
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  Speaker 1: they would go to to cover shit up just feels
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  Speaker 1: a little too familiar to me. Really, mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Can you elaborate, because now I kind of want it.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: That's like you know what I'm talking about? No, you will,
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  Speaker 2: You just dangled the carrot. But I want to know
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  Speaker 2: can I peek inside just little bit more so I
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: could go, oh, you know, to see if we have
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  Speaker 2: the same experience experiences that I have had with somebody.
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  Speaker 2: The length that they would go to to make sure
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  Speaker 2: the truth was not revealed. It was triggering to me
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  Speaker 2: to watch that and watch Britney Snow's character be like
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  Speaker 2: what the fuck? Like, I feel like I'm going insane.
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  Speaker 2: It took me to a place where I'm like, this
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  Speaker 2: feels very familiar.
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  Speaker 1: To me, and I know what you're talking to get
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  Speaker 1: it like it. But like I always say, the truth
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  Speaker 1: always is revealed, whether it's five minutes from now, five
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  Speaker 1: years from now. So there's that I'm interested to hear
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: how you feel about this. Britney Snow's characters spiral. It
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: drove me fucking crazy that she had hit rock bottom
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: and killed somebody, and granted she had something horrendous happened
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: to her right like just gut wrenching what she went
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: through with the loss of the baby, and then she
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: started drinking and spiraling, and then she was drinking and
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: driving gets sober. The fact that she started like drinking again,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: and every time I would see her look at her
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: phone and be like, yeah, I can stay a little longer,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and the husband's texting her, I was like, go home,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: like what are you doing? It tricked with me. I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: didn't like it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I loved Hunting Wives. First of all, I loved it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I thought it was so it's so different than the
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: other show. It's like Hunting Wives is is seduction and secrecy,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: and then Heated Briberly is like uplifting, uplifting and honest.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I really love that, right, It's honest, it's connection. It's
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: but Hunting Wives. At first I was like no. And
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the only reason why I watched it is because I'm
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: friends with Mollin and I'm friends with Jamie Newman, who
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: are are both phenomenal actresses that I learned too.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Don't tell them to listen to this episode.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, well Jamie, don't listen to this. And No, there
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: was something that really captivated me. I'm the kind of
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: person where the pilot really needs to be off the charts,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: and I didn't feel that way about either one of
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: these shows, but I stayed long enough to be drawn
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: in and understand, like from a storytelling perspective, what the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: writers and creator was trying to do with the show
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Hunting Wives was so fucking hot to me. I was like,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: holy shit. But there were times where I was like
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: on the edge and I felt like it.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, you need to sleep with a woman.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Do you think I'm no, I don't.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I believe in labels, okay, unless you want them. Like
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: for me, I've hooked up with chicks before. I don't
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: consider myself to be bisexual. Someone may look at me
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and be like, you've been sexually attracted to women before,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you're bisexual? Great, whatever. I don't believe in the label.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think. But if you're getting turned on, but like,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: maybe you need to have a female experience, I don't know.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: It wasn't that I was getting turned on, Okay, it
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: was the connection I really value and something that I
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: haven't had is real intimate connection.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Where was there an intimate connection in Hunting Wives?
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, when they had sex in
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the closet, when she kisses her for the first time
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: when she's going to look for her gun. Right, Yeah,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: but that's because that the redhead with the wig Malin Ackerman.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: She talked about it in an interview that they tried
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to get her a good wig and it didn't come
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: in time.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: They were terrible, But I wasn't bad though.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Because she's such a great actress. I didn't even notice
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: what was on her head. I saw the interview and
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, you're right, the wig is funky, but
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: like I didn't notice because she is a phenomenal actress
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: so much so, and same with Britney Snow that I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: was triggered by the show and everyone else is like
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: triggered why.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's so dark. It's taking me back to
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: places I don't want to go.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: But I that's like my that's my jam. I love
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: really dark shit when it comes to storytelling, except for
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: The Pit. I've been watching The Pit lately with Riley,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: and that's more like I'm like, oh, I can't watch them,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: like cut open the guy's leg.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Right, they had a lot of I think they won
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: like quite a few awards this season, right, I think
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I go season?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: They did? They did, so I turned it on for Riley,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, this is a nice family
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: show to watch before bedtime. Not so much, but now
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: we're both addicted to it. But yeah, I mean it's
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: both of the shows are great. I'm so happy that
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I got through both of them.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: You don't need to have a female experience. Let's round
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that thought out.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no it's not. It's not for me. And now
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: that I'm sober, I definitely don't. I would, I don't,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I couldn't. I don't think I would need a little lube.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: You don't want these fingers touching you. This is what
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: giving up the vape looks like. How's the vape going yet?
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Not good? Bitch? Oh wait that yes this finger I
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: peeled it off because I'm tweaking.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: But let me tell you something. Wait on pause for
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: a second. I am really proud of you. That's a
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: big deal, and that's a really hard thing to kick.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you. Yeah, it will get easier. The new
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: boobs will be worth it. It is important to note
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I have never hooked up with a female sober either, hmm,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: which doesn't tell me much because I even went into
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: panic cooking up with a man sober. So I'm like
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe I just need to get back on
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: all the horses.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: We'll see listen. It's never too late, It's.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Never too late. And yes, I did find Hunting Wives
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: is definitely sexy. Maybe if I watch it at a
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: later date. There's obviously they're in such different categories. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: just found it interesting that so many people are I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: live in an LA bubble where everything's kind of you know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you've lived here. It's like, yeah, we're free and we're accepting.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: But the rest of the world is not lost on
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: me that it's not like that. And I just was like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it's so interesting that I hear about how fantastic Hunting
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Wives is, and I've heard about heated rivalry from the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: gay community and gay community only until of course I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: look it up and then obviously it's getting all of
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: this praise. But a lot of the interviews talked about
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: how there's a lot of people who still are not
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: not ready, and I think looking past the sexual aspect
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and looking at like the intimacy, because we've all experienced
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that is the name of the game. Though I can't
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: really I can't relate to a gay man. There were
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: moments that I was like gosh, I know that feeling
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: of like wanting somebody so bad yea, and to them
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: it's like just sex and then the moment that they're
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: like I love you, and it's like, oh my gosh,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: this is the best of my life.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I know. I was like watching it. I was like,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: there's so much that I could take as a straight woman,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: like bringing into a relationship and having that intimate moment
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: like I want like I said, I want someone that's
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: open and vulnerable. One minute it was just and by
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the way, like the shower scene when they're both checking
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: each other out, these guys are freaking hot, Like I
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: was like.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Damn, I know, they're so good freaking hot, And so
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: that also helped. We have to wait until twenty twenty
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: seven for a new season, but lucky for you, you
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Hunting Wives fan twenty twenty six.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, oh, I'm so excited to see my.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Girls try to finish the first season.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Oh finish, don't worry. God.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I love talking shows with you because you've been like
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: in it, like you're a viewer. You watch scripted television
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the way I probably watch reality TV, Like I know
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: how the sausage is made, so I have I view
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: it differently. I view it as like someone who's in it,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: but also you just know like what goes into making
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: something really great.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those sex scenes felt so real and I felt
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: like a fly on the wall. And again like the
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: way they were shot, they weren't like over the top. Oh,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: they were just so good. But yes, I find myself
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: and this is a real problem and I have to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: like say and stop it, like, just enjoy what you're
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: like the story of it. Yeah, I find myself looking
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: at like, oh, that was a good camera angle. Oh
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the lighting is really good. Oh that was a good choice.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Oh look at that. You know something in the background,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: like I really far.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you you're a little too you know how the
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: sausage is made a little too much.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I dissect it and I have to like pull
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: back and go no, just enjoy what you're watching, enjoy
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the process and the storytelling of it.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, your hair looks really good today. Do you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: have clippins?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I did you know? I woke up this morning I said,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I want to be a mermaid.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: It's so long.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what is that?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Like your natural length, and it's the clippins are just
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: for fullness.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: No, my hair's like right, I don't know, maybe above
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: my nipples a little bit.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: It looks so good.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: But I put them in because I wanted link today.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I love it. What's on the schedule the rest of
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the day.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's snowed, which is so rare, so I have
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: to I have to see if I actually have to
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: get my snow plower out. So I'm going to go
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: out there with my extensions and my boots and plow
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: plow my driveway.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Get some content.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to plow that, plow that driveway. That's like, yeah,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get my boobs looked at. Because before
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I get my boob job, I have to do a
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: panel of blood work, and then they have to make
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: sure I'm doing the ultrasound to make sure there's nothing
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: in there that shouldn't be. Oh good, okay, well let
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: me know how that goes. I actually have the CO
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: two fate, Like started doing a CO two facial yesterday.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Do you see the spots?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Oh? You ended up doing it.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I did a spot treatment. I didn't do the whole thing,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: so she just did my dark spots.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: You don't even have those. We need to talk before
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: you do shit. Because I think you make things up
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: in your brain.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Well, of course I make things up in my brain.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: You have the most gorgeous skin and the best jawline ever.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, but no I do. I do have
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: some and cancer runs very skin. Cancer runs very deep
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: in my family. So I'm highly paranoid about sun spots.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: And then she did, like the chest, she did a
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: chest like to test it. Right, like a lot of
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: my sun damages up. I wore my neck and my
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: what is his phone called your clollor call her? Where's
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: your clapical?
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't know. We don't even know what
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: fash is.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Anyway, she did a test spot. I'm really happy. I
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: want to see how how it looks. And it's the winter.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but keep the listeners updated. They love like little
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: tips and tricks.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: No, I'm going to That's why I actually took before
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: and after pictures and I took some video while I
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: was there, and then when I come back, then I
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: could really peel, you know, my face off with this laser.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I know it's probably an addiction. I probably have an
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: addiction that I haven't addressed.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Hey, better that than the booze baby, Better that than
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the booze.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I know my sister did have me pour her a
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: glass of wine last night because she had the baby upstairs.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't like put the cup up to me, but
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: as I was pouring it, I did smell it, and
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh fuck, this smells so good. I
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: know I missed wine. The smell of wine is so
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: good for me.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But but to me, she's a woman that goes to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: this day I'm not gonna older or the deli, but
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: she gets I've seen her multiple times. She sits in
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the same booth, orders a plate of cheese fries and
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: drinks some martini and I'm like, Okay, that woman is
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: living the dream. And she always has a headscarf on
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and wears her sunglasses and she's so fabulous. Stop it's
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: gonna be us. I can't wait.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be US, Italy or somewhere. I don't want
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: to be like at Whole Foods in Sherman Oaks. That's
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: like not like, all right, don't be fucking rude. I
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: go to that Whole Foods, bitch, Listen, I don't. I don't.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I love Whole Foods. But when I'm older, if I'm
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: going to be doing that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I want to be in. We'll be on a yacht,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: bro obviously, Okay.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my yacht will be parked and I'll just
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: be getting off the yacht to go to my favorite
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: spot and get back on the yacht and sail away
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's no drinking problem on the yacht for all.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: As long as we have our floaties on, we'll be fine.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm not encouraging a relapse.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, thanks for tuning into another amazing episode of
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: an unlikely affair, and let us know your thoughts. I
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: want to hear everyone's opinion on heated rivalry, right, It's
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: so funny that word is so rivalry rivalry versus Hunting Wives. Yeah,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I know English, I know one has nothing to do
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: with the other. But I'm telling you Hunting Wives was
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: like everyone, it's the press show on television.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, everyone fucking calmed down anyway. I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: love you and I love you guys. Thanks for listening.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Amber hit me up later if you're bored.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: All right, piece out, peacey, guys. Hye, guys,