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S7, Ep 14: The Streamer Playbook: Tips and Tactics for Targeting Big Trout in East Tennessee with Ellis Ward · The Articulate Fly

• 0:00
  Hey
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  folks,
• 0:04
  it's
• 0:04
  Marvin
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  Cash,
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  the
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  host
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  of
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  the
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  We're
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  back
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  with
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  another
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  East
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  Tennessee
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  fishing
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  report
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  with
• 0:09
  Ellis
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  Ward.
• 0:10
  Ellis,
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  how
• 0:10
  are
• 0:10
  you
• 0:12
  doing?
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  Pretty
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  good,
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  Marv.
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  How
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  are
• 0:14
  you?
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  As
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  always?
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  I'm
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  just
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  trying
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  to
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  stay
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  out
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  of
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  trouble.
• 0:16
  And
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  you've
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  got
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  to
• 0:17
  be
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  super
• 0:18
  stoked
• 0:18
  that
• 0:18
  it's
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  going
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  to
• 0:19
  basically
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  rain
• 0:19
  all
• 0:20
  this
• 0:20
  week.
• 0:21
  Yeah,
• 0:21
  I
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  am
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  and
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  I
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  have
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  a
• 0:25
  number
• 0:25
  of
• 0:25
  trips
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  with
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  like
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  minded
• 0:28
  individuals.
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  So.
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  Kid
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  in
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  a
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  candy
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  store.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  it's
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  probably
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  not
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  a
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  lot
• 0:36
  of
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  blue
• 0:36
  winged
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  action,
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  but
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  probably
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  some
• 0:38
  really
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  great
• 0:38
  streamer
• 0:39
  fishing.
• 0:39
  Right?
• 0:41
  Yeah.
• 0:44
  I'm
• 0:44
  already
• 0:44
  being
• 0:45
  picky
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  about
• 0:47
  which
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  rabbit
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  hole
• 0:48
  I'm
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  going
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  to
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  decide
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  to
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  dive
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  down.
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  I'll
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  stay
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  away
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  from
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  the
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  drive
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  wise
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  right
• 0:53
  now
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  because
• 0:55
  haven't
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  been
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  seen
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  as
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  many
• 0:56
  as.
• 0:57
  Look
• 0:57
  at
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  me
• 0:57
  already
• 0:58
  going
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  down
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  it.
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  Haven't
• 0:59
  been
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  seen
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  as
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  many
• 1:00
  as
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  I,
• 1:02
  I
• 1:02
  would
• 1:02
  have
• 1:02
  been
• 1:03
  expecting
• 1:04
  to
• 1:04
  on
• 1:05
  a
• 1:05
  few
• 1:05
  different
• 1:06
  days
• 1:08
  on
• 1:09
  both
• 1:09
  rivers.
• 1:10
  But
• 1:13
  streamer
• 1:13
  fishing's
• 1:14
  been
• 1:15
  awesome
• 1:16
  and
• 1:18
  you
• 1:18
  know,
• 1:18
  kind
• 1:19
  of
• 1:19
  the
• 1:19
  same
• 1:19
  deal
• 1:19
  we
• 1:19
  were
• 1:20
  talking
• 1:20
  about
• 1:20
  last
• 1:21
  time,
• 1:21
  which
• 1:21
  is
• 1:21
  you
• 1:22
  have
• 1:24
  these
• 1:24
  really
• 1:24
  tough
• 1:26
  bite
• 1:26
  windows
• 1:27
  and
• 1:27
  I
• 1:27
  do
• 1:27
  realize
• 1:27
  it
• 1:28
  just
• 1:28
  said
• 1:28
  it's
• 1:28
  been
• 1:28
  awesome.
• 1:29
  You
• 1:29
  have
• 1:29
  these
• 1:29
  tough
• 1:29
  bite
• 1:30
  windows
• 1:31
  that
• 1:33
  open
• 1:34
  up
• 1:34
  and
• 1:34
  close
• 1:35
  somewhat
• 1:36
  definitively
• 1:38
  but
• 1:38
  when
• 1:38
  you're,
• 1:40
  when
• 1:40
  you're
• 1:40
  in
• 1:40
  them,
• 1:41
  when
• 1:41
  you're
• 1:41
  seeing
• 1:41
  fish,
• 1:47
  it's
• 1:47
  somewhat
• 1:48
  rare
• 1:48
  that
• 1:48
  they're
• 1:48
  rolling
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  or
• 1:50
  that
• 1:50
  you're
• 1:50
  getting
• 1:51
  flashes
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  or
• 1:52
  that
• 1:53
  you're
• 1:53
  seeing,
• 1:54
  you
• 1:54
  know,
• 1:55
  rolling
• 1:55
  or
• 1:55
  flashing
• 1:56
  and
• 1:57
  definitely
• 1:57
  eats
• 1:58
  from
• 1:58
  fish
• 1:59
  under.
• 1:59
  And
• 2:00
  this
• 2:00
  isn't
• 2:00
  a,
• 2:01
  you
• 2:01
  know,
• 2:01
  guide's
• 2:02
  estimate.
• 2:02
  This
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  is
• 2:03
  just,
• 2:04
  it's,
• 2:05
  it's
• 2:05
  a,
• 2:05
  it's
• 2:06
  a
• 2:06
  strange
• 2:06
  time
• 2:07
  of
• 2:07
  year.
• 2:07
  You're,
• 2:07
  you're
• 2:07
  not
• 2:08
  seeing
• 2:08
  this
• 2:08
  from
• 2:08
  fish
• 2:09
  under
• 2:10
  16
• 2:13
  and
• 2:13
  we're
• 2:14
  regularly
• 2:15
  getting
• 2:15
  shots
• 2:16
  in
• 2:16
  the
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  20
• 2:17
  to
• 2:18
  you
• 2:18
  know,
• 2:19
  I,
• 2:19
  I
• 2:20
  start
• 2:20
  to
• 2:20
  hesitate
• 2:20
  a
• 2:21
  little
• 2:21
  bit
• 2:21
  saying
• 2:22
  24.
• 2:23
  The,
• 2:23
  the
• 2:23
  two
• 2:23
  foot
• 2:24
  mark
• 2:24
  because
• 2:24
  it's
• 2:25
  as
• 2:26
  much
• 2:26
  as
• 2:26
  you'll
• 2:26
  hear
• 2:26
  that
• 2:26
  thrown
• 2:27
  around
• 2:27
  especially
• 2:28
  on
• 2:28
  the,
• 2:28
  the
• 2:28
  tail
• 2:29
  waters.
• 2:29
  It's
• 2:30
  a
• 2:30
  two
• 2:30
  foot
• 2:31
  trout.
• 2:31
  It's
• 2:31
  just,
• 2:31
  it's
• 2:32
  a
• 2:32
  big
• 2:32
  animal
• 2:34
  but
• 2:35
  it's,
• 2:36
  it's.
• 2:36
  Every
• 2:37
  trip
• 2:37
  is
• 2:39
  we're
• 2:40
  getting
• 2:40
  an
• 2:40
  opportunity
• 2:41
  at
• 2:41
  it
• 2:41
  and,
• 2:42
  and
• 2:42
  we're
• 2:42
  not.
• 2:42
  I
• 2:43
  don't
• 2:43
  use
• 2:43
  that
• 2:43
  word
• 2:43
  opportunity
• 2:44
  as
• 2:45
  in,
• 2:45
  you
• 2:46
  know,
• 2:46
  you
• 2:46
  saw
• 2:46
  it
• 2:46
  and
• 2:47
  it
• 2:47
  was
• 2:47
  following.
• 2:47
  It's,
• 2:48
  they're
• 2:49
  crushing
• 2:49
  the
• 2:49
  fly
• 2:50
  and
• 2:52
  one
• 2:52
  of
• 2:52
  the
• 2:52
  reasons
• 2:52
  that
• 2:53
  it's
• 2:53
  hard
• 2:53
  to,
• 2:54
  to
• 2:54
  boat
• 2:54
  those
• 2:54
  fish
• 2:55
  and
• 2:55
  one
• 2:55
  of
• 2:55
  the
• 2:55
  reasons
• 2:56
  why
• 2:56
  it's
• 2:56
  so
• 2:56
  special
• 2:57
  to
• 2:57
  do
• 2:57
  it
• 2:57
  is
• 2:58
  especially
• 2:59
  on
• 2:59
  a
• 2:59
  streamer,
• 3:00
  it's,
• 3:01
  it's
• 3:01
  so
• 3:01
  visual
• 3:02
  and
• 3:03
  you'll
• 3:03
  see
• 3:03
  them
• 3:03
  roll
• 3:04
  out
• 3:04
  on
• 3:04
  it,
• 3:04
  shark
• 3:05
  it
• 3:05
  for
• 3:05
  a
• 3:05
  second.
• 3:06
  You
• 3:06
  gotta
• 3:06
  keep
• 3:07
  it
• 3:08
  together,
• 3:09
  which
• 3:11
  is,
• 3:12
  is
• 3:12
  hard
• 3:13
  to
• 3:13
  do.
• 3:13
  And,
• 3:14
  and
• 3:14
  even
• 3:15
  after
• 3:15
  that
• 3:16
  happens
• 3:16
  and
• 3:16
  you
• 3:16
  do
• 3:17
  everything
• 3:17
  right.
• 3:21
  I
• 3:21
  haven't
• 3:22
  said
• 3:22
  this
• 3:22
  in
• 3:22
  a
• 3:22
  while.
• 3:23
  They
• 3:23
  don't
• 3:24
  have
• 3:24
  teeth
• 3:25
  like
• 3:25
  muskie
• 3:25
  or
• 3:26
  pike.
• 3:26
  They
• 3:26
  don't
• 3:27
  flare
• 3:27
  their
• 3:27
  gills
• 3:28
  like
• 3:28
  bass
• 3:29
  do.
• 3:30
  They
• 3:30
  open
• 3:30
  their
• 3:30
  mouth
• 3:31
  and
• 3:31
  run
• 3:31
  into
• 3:32
  stuff
• 3:32
  and
• 3:33
  then
• 3:34
  eat
• 3:34
  it.
• 3:36
  So
• 3:36
  what
• 3:36
  that
• 3:37
  translates
• 3:37
  to
• 3:38
  is
• 3:39
  a
• 3:40
  very
• 3:40
  hard
• 3:40
  and
• 3:40
  bony
• 3:41
  mouth
• 3:42
  and
• 3:44
  not
• 3:44
  an
• 3:44
  eat
• 3:45
  that.
• 3:46
  You
• 3:47
  know,
• 3:47
  you,
• 3:47
  you
• 3:48
  watch
• 3:48
  a,
• 3:49
  a
• 3:49
  tarpon
• 3:49
  or
• 3:49
  a
• 3:49
  largemouth
• 3:50
  or,
• 3:50
  or
• 3:51
  you
• 3:51
  know,
• 3:51
  most
• 3:52
  other
• 3:52
  fish
• 3:52
  just,
• 3:53
  oh,
• 3:53
  it's
• 3:53
  gone.
• 3:54
  And
• 3:54
  then
• 3:55
  you
• 3:55
  set
• 3:55
  the
• 3:55
  hook
• 3:55
  because
• 3:56
  their
• 3:56
  mouth
• 3:56
  is
• 3:56
  closed,
• 3:57
  they
• 3:57
  run
• 3:57
  into
• 3:57
  it
• 3:58
  sideways
• 3:58
  and
• 4:00
  you
• 4:00
  need
• 4:01
  to
• 4:01
  time
• 4:01
  your
• 4:01
  strip
• 4:01
  set
• 4:02
  and
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  have
• 4:02
  to
• 4:02
  strip
• 4:03
  set.
• 4:03
  There's
• 4:04
  no
• 4:04
  rod
• 4:05
  lift.
• 4:07
  So
• 4:07
  all,
• 4:08
  all
• 4:08
  of
• 4:08
  that
• 4:09
  means
• 4:09
  that
• 4:10
  it's
• 4:10
  a,
• 4:10
  it's
• 4:11
  a
• 4:11
  really
• 4:11
  low
• 4:11
  percentage
• 4:12
  game
• 4:15
  even
• 4:16
  when
• 4:16
  you
• 4:16
  get
• 4:16
  the
• 4:16
  opportunity
• 4:17
  and
• 4:19
  you
• 4:19
  know,
• 4:19
  it's,
• 4:20
  it's,
• 4:20
  it's
• 4:20
  cool
• 4:21
  to
• 4:21
  see.
• 4:21
  I've
• 4:21
  had
• 4:24
  a
• 4:24
  handful
• 4:24
  of
• 4:25
  trips
• 4:25
  that
• 4:27
  we've
• 4:27
  landed
• 4:27
  nice
• 4:28
  fish
• 4:28
  and
• 4:30
  you
• 4:31
  know,
• 4:31
  this
• 4:31
  is,
• 4:32
  it's
• 4:32
  the
• 4:32
  payoff
• 4:33
  of
• 4:34
  sticking
• 4:34
  to
• 4:34
  my
• 4:35
  guns
• 4:35
  and,
• 4:36
  and
• 4:36
  having
• 4:36
  the
• 4:37
  right
• 4:37
  people
• 4:38
  find
• 4:38
  me
• 4:38
  and
• 4:39
  finding
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  right
• 4:39
  people
• 4:40
  and
• 4:40
  you
• 4:40
  know,
• 4:41
  the
• 4:41
  word
• 4:41
  of
• 4:41
  mouth
• 4:41
  process
• 4:42
  and
• 4:42
  all
• 4:42
  that.
• 4:42
  Not
• 4:42
  fighting
• 4:43
  the
• 4:43
  SEO
• 4:43
  battle
• 4:44
  just
• 4:44
  to
• 4:44
  get
• 4:44
  trips
• 4:45
  with,
• 4:45
  with
• 4:46
  anyone
• 4:46
  looking
• 4:47
  to,
• 4:47
  to
• 4:47
  fish
• 4:48
  using
• 4:48
  the
• 4:49
  river
• 4:49
  names
• 4:49
  here.
• 4:50
  So
• 4:51
  it's,
• 4:51
  it's
• 4:52
  guys
• 4:52
  that,
• 4:53
  you
• 4:53
  know,
• 4:53
  we're
• 4:53
  getting
• 4:53
  these
• 4:54
  shots
• 4:54
  and
• 4:54
  we're
• 4:54
  not,
• 4:55
  we
• 4:55
  don't
• 4:55
  end
• 4:56
  up
• 4:56
  with
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  fish
• 4:56
  in
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  boat.
• 4:57
  We
• 4:57
  don't
• 4:57
  end
• 4:57
  up
• 4:57
  with
• 4:57
  the
• 4:57
  grip
• 4:58
  and
• 4:58
  grin
• 4:58
  and
• 4:59
  I
• 5:00
  just
• 5:00
  got
• 5:00
  goosebumps.
• 5:03
  I'm
• 5:04
  talking
• 5:04
  with
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  guys
• 5:05
  that
• 5:05
  night.
• 5:06
  You
• 5:06
  know,
• 5:07
  we're
• 5:07
  texting
• 5:07
  over
• 5:07
  the
• 5:08
  course
• 5:08
  of
• 5:08
  the
• 5:08
  next
• 5:08
  week
• 5:09
  and
• 5:11
  they
• 5:11
  got
• 5:11
  the
• 5:12
  next
• 5:12
  trip
• 5:12
  booked
• 5:13
  and
• 5:14
  because
• 5:14
  you,
• 5:17
  you
• 5:17
  climb
• 5:18
  the
• 5:18
  ladder
• 5:18
  and
• 5:19
  as
• 5:21
  a
• 5:21
  recent
• 5:22
  client
• 5:22
  said,
• 5:24
  you
• 5:24
  hit
• 5:25
  every
• 5:25
  rung
• 5:25
  on
• 5:25
  it
• 5:26
  and
• 5:26
  just
• 5:26
  work
• 5:26
  your
• 5:27
  way
• 5:27
  out
• 5:27
  there
• 5:28
  and,
• 5:29
  and
• 5:29
  start
• 5:29
  seeing
• 5:30
  the,
• 5:31
  the
• 5:32
  pay
• 5:32
  dirt
• 5:32
  for
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  work
• 5:33
  that
• 5:33
  you
• 5:33
  put
• 5:34
  in
• 5:34
  and
• 5:34
  you,
• 5:35
  you'll
• 5:35
  stumble
• 5:36
  into
• 5:36
  a
• 5:36
  big
• 5:37
  fish
• 5:37
  every
• 5:38
  now
• 5:38
  and
• 5:38
  again.
• 5:39
  And
• 5:39
  it
• 5:40
  happens
• 5:40
  with
• 5:40
  all
• 5:41
  fishing
• 5:41
  that
• 5:42
  sometimes
• 5:42
  you
• 5:43
  just,
• 5:43
  you
• 5:44
  get
• 5:44
  a
• 5:44
  nice
• 5:44
  one
• 5:45
  and
• 5:45
  it
• 5:45
  gets
• 5:46
  in
• 5:46
  the
• 5:46
  net
• 5:47
  and
• 5:47
  maybe
• 5:48
  it
• 5:48
  was
• 5:48
  before
• 5:48
  you,
• 5:49
  you
• 5:49
  hit
• 5:49
  all
• 5:49
  those
• 5:49
  rungs,
• 5:50
  but
• 5:50
  most
• 5:50
  of
• 5:50
  the
• 5:50
  time
• 5:51
  with
• 5:51
  streamer
• 5:52
  fishing,
• 5:52
  it's
• 5:53
  you,
• 5:54
  you
• 5:54
  got
• 5:54
  to
• 5:54
  work
• 5:54
  your
• 5:55
  way
• 5:55
  up
• 5:55
  there
• 5:55
  and,
• 5:55
  and
• 5:56
  even
• 5:56
  when
• 5:56
  you
• 5:56
  get
• 5:56
  there,
• 5:57
  it's,
• 5:58
  you
• 5:58
  still
• 5:58
  have
• 5:58
  to
• 5:58
  do
• 5:59
  everything
• 5:59
  right.
• 6:00
  So
• 6:02
  yeah,
• 6:03
  I'm
• 6:03
  excited
• 6:03
  for
• 6:03
  this
• 6:04
  week
• 6:04
  and
• 6:04
  we,
• 6:05
  we
• 6:05
  have
• 6:05
  a
• 6:05
  whole
• 6:05
  mess
• 6:06
  of
• 6:06
  rain
• 6:06
  so
• 6:06
  that's
• 6:06
  gonna
• 6:08
  tweak
• 6:08
  some
• 6:09
  musky
• 6:09
  plans
• 6:11
  that
• 6:11
  I
• 6:12
  did
• 6:12
  have.
• 6:12
  But
• 6:13
  again,
• 6:13
  the,
• 6:13
  you
• 6:14
  know,
• 6:14
  great
• 6:14
  part
• 6:14
  of
• 6:14
  this
• 6:15
  time
• 6:15
  of
• 6:15
  year
• 6:15
  is
• 6:17
  going
• 6:18
  out
• 6:18
  fishing
• 6:19
  for
• 6:19
  brown
• 6:19
  trout.
• 6:20
  Some
• 6:20
  of
• 6:20
  these
• 6:20
  days
• 6:20
  it's,
• 6:22
  it's
• 6:22
  a
• 6:22
  lot
• 6:22
  of
• 6:22
  work
• 6:23
  without
• 6:23
  a
• 6:23
  whole
• 6:23
  lot
• 6:24
  of
• 6:24
  feedback.
• 6:24
  And
• 6:24
  then
• 6:24
  when
• 6:25
  you
• 6:25
  do
• 6:25
  get
• 6:25
  it,
• 6:26
  it's
• 6:26
  a
• 6:26
  big
• 6:26
  fish
• 6:26
  eating
• 6:27
  hard.
• 6:27
  So
• 6:28
  it's
• 6:29
  not
• 6:29
  a
• 6:29
  bad
• 6:29
  second
• 6:30
  place.
• 6:31
  There
• 6:31
  you
• 6:31
  go.
• 6:31
  And
• 6:32
  got
• 6:32
  a
• 6:32
  question
• 6:32
  for
• 6:32
  you
• 6:33
  from
• 6:33
  Steven
• 6:34
  Spigler
• 6:34
  and
• 6:35
  he
• 6:35
  wanted
• 6:35
  to
• 6:35
  know
• 6:36
  when
• 6:36
  you're
• 6:36
  going
• 6:36
  to
• 6:36
  get
• 6:37
  into
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  design
• 6:37
  game
• 6:38
  so
• 6:38
  folks
• 6:38
  can
• 6:38
  start
• 6:39
  buying
• 6:39
  Ellis
• 6:40
  Ward
• 6:40
  rides
• 6:40
  and
• 6:40
  lines.
• 6:43
  Sure.
• 6:44
  Well,
• 6:44
  Stephen,
• 6:45
  I
• 6:45
  think
• 6:45
  that
• 6:45
  the
• 6:46
  first
• 6:49
  thing
• 6:50
  I'm
• 6:50
  going
• 6:50
  to,
• 6:51
  to
• 6:51
  dive
• 6:51
  into
• 6:52
  with
• 6:52
  design
• 6:53
  is
• 6:53
  going
• 6:53
  to
• 6:54
  be
• 6:55
  apparel.
• 6:56
  So
• 6:56
  rain
• 6:56
  jackets
• 6:57
  primarily.
• 6:58
  And
• 7:00
  stepping
• 7:00
  down
• 7:00
  from
• 7:01
  that,
• 7:01
  probably
• 7:02
  some
• 7:03
  sort
• 7:03
  of
• 7:03
  waterproof
• 7:04
  glove
• 7:05
  and
• 7:07
  I
• 7:07
  don't
• 7:07
  know,
• 7:08
  maybe
• 7:09
  like
• 7:09
  hand
• 7:10
  warmers,
• 7:12
  water
• 7:13
  bottles,
• 7:13
  barf
• 7:14
  bags,
• 7:14
  things
• 7:15
  that
• 7:15
  anglers
• 7:16
  can
• 7:16
  take
• 7:16
  out
• 7:17
  on,
• 7:17
  on
• 7:17
  a
• 7:18
  boat
• 7:18
  if
• 7:18
  they
• 7:18
  need
• 7:18
  them.
• 7:21
  But,
• 7:21
  but
• 7:22
  somewhat
• 7:22
  more
• 7:22
  seriously,
• 7:24
  I,
• 7:25
  I
• 7:25
  think
• 7:25
  about
• 7:26
  this
• 7:26
  question
• 7:26
  a
• 7:26
  lot.
• 7:27
  And
• 7:29
  Marv,
• 7:29
  you
• 7:30
  and
• 7:30
  I
• 7:30
  were
• 7:30
  talking
• 7:32
  before
• 7:33
  press
• 7:33
  and
• 7:33
  record
• 7:35
  about
• 7:35
  a
• 7:36
  number
• 7:36
  of
• 7:36
  things
• 7:36
  and
• 7:37
  it's
• 7:38
  just,
• 7:38
  you
• 7:38
  know,
• 7:39
  which
• 7:39
  rabbit
• 7:39
  hole
• 7:39
  do
• 7:40
  I
• 7:40
  want
• 7:40
  to
• 7:40
  go
• 7:40
  down?
• 7:41
  And
• 7:43
  most
• 7:43
  days
• 7:46
  between
• 7:47
  family
• 7:49
  and
• 7:49
  tying
• 7:50
  and
• 7:50
  bucktail
• 7:51
  and
• 7:51
  fishing
• 7:51
  and
• 7:52
  guiding,
• 7:53
  I'm
• 7:54
  hard
• 7:54
  pressed
• 7:54
  to
• 7:55
  get
• 7:55
  five
• 7:55
  or
• 7:55
  six
• 7:55
  hours
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  sleep.
• 7:57
  So,
• 7:58
  you
• 7:58
  know,
• 7:58
  all
• 7:59
  that
• 7:59
  said,
• 8:01
  I,
• 8:02
  I
• 8:02
  don't
• 8:03
  deal
• 8:03
  well
• 8:03
  with
• 8:03
  complacency.
• 8:05
  So
• 8:06
  I
• 8:06
  think
• 8:07
  there
• 8:08
  is
• 8:08
  a,
• 8:10
  an
• 8:10
  avenue
• 8:11
  in
• 8:11
  the
• 8:11
  progression
• 8:12
  of
• 8:12
  my
• 8:12
  career
• 8:13
  that
• 8:13
  will
• 8:14
  certainly
• 8:14
  touch
• 8:16
  gear
• 8:17
  design.
• 8:19
  And
• 8:21
  having
• 8:21
  gone
• 8:21
  through
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  lines
• 8:25
  and
• 8:25
  the
• 8:26
  rods
• 8:26
  and
• 8:26
  actually
• 8:27
  now
• 8:28
  seriously,
• 8:28
  the
• 8:28
  apparel,
• 8:33
  there
• 8:33
  are
• 8:33
  a
• 8:34
  lot
• 8:34
  of
• 8:34
  specific
• 8:35
  things
• 8:36
  to.
• 8:37
  You
• 8:38
  call
• 8:38
  it
• 8:38
  streamer
• 8:39
  fishing,
• 8:39
  but
• 8:39
  muskie
• 8:40
  fishing.
• 8:40
  A
• 8:40
  lot
• 8:41
  of
• 8:41
  the
• 8:41
  demands
• 8:41
  are
• 8:41
  the
• 8:42
  same
• 8:42
  for,
• 8:43
  for
• 8:43
  rods
• 8:44
  and
• 8:44
  lines
• 8:44
  that,
• 8:44
  that
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  think,
• 8:45
  you
• 8:45
  know,
• 8:45
  guys
• 8:46
  like
• 8:47
  the
• 8:47
  Wolf
• 8:47
  Rod
• 8:48
  company
• 8:48
  have,
• 8:50
  I
• 8:51
  mean,
• 8:51
  the,
• 8:51
  the
• 8:51
  Dave
• 8:53
  has
• 8:53
  just
• 8:55
  hit
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  nail
• 8:55
  on
• 8:55
  the
• 8:56
  head
• 8:56
  with,
• 8:56
  with
• 8:56
  some
• 8:57
  of
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  rods,
• 8:59
  you
• 8:59
  know,
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  11
• 9:00
  and
• 9:00
  12
• 9:00
  weight
• 9:01
  in
• 9:01
  particular,
• 9:01
  but
• 9:01
  just
• 9:02
  these,
• 9:05
  these
• 9:05
  really
• 9:06
  intricate
• 9:06
  things
• 9:06
  that
• 9:07
  unless
• 9:07
  you're
• 9:07
  going
• 9:08
  out
• 9:08
  and
• 9:08
  sure,
• 9:09
  this
• 9:09
  line
• 9:09
  can
• 9:09
  cast
• 9:10
  well
• 9:10
  and
• 9:10
  retrieve
• 9:10
  well
• 9:11
  and
• 9:11
  all
• 9:11
  that
• 9:11
  for,
• 9:13
  for
• 9:13
  dozens
• 9:13
  of
• 9:13
  days
• 9:14
  a
• 9:14
  year.
• 9:14
  What
• 9:14
  about
• 9:15
  hundreds
• 9:15
  of
• 9:15
  days
• 9:15
  per
• 9:16
  year?
• 9:16
  And
• 9:18
  same
• 9:18
  with
• 9:18
  the
• 9:18
  rods.
• 9:19
  It's,
• 9:20
  you
• 9:20
  know,
• 9:20
  what's,
• 9:20
  what's
• 9:21
  the
• 9:21
  performance
• 9:21
  like
• 9:22
  over
• 9:22
  this,
• 9:23
  that
• 9:23
  and
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  other.
• 9:23
  And
• 9:24
  what
• 9:24
  does
• 9:24
  it
• 9:24
  do
• 9:25
  in
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  drift
• 9:25
  boat
• 9:26
  versus
• 9:26
  waiting?
• 9:27
  And
• 9:30
  yeah,
• 9:30
  so
• 9:30
  I,
• 9:31
  I,
• 9:31
  I
• 9:31
  haven't
• 9:31
  taken
• 9:32
  steps
• 9:32
  there.
• 9:33
  It's,
• 9:33
  it's
• 9:34
  something
• 9:34
  that
• 9:34
  when
• 9:34
  I
• 9:34
  do,
• 9:36
  like
• 9:36
  everything
• 9:36
  else,
• 9:37
  it'll
• 9:37
  be
• 9:37
  full
• 9:37
  tilt.
• 9:38
  And
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  don't
• 9:39
  anticipate
• 9:40
  that
• 9:40
  happening
• 9:40
  in
• 9:40
  the
• 9:41
  next,
• 9:42
  you
• 9:42
  know,
• 9:42
  year
• 9:43
  or
• 9:43
  two.
• 9:43
  But
• 9:45
  patience
• 9:46
  is
• 9:46
  the
• 9:46
  name
• 9:46
  of
• 9:46
  the
• 9:46
  game.
• 9:47
  So
• 9:47
  until
• 9:47
  then,
• 9:47
  I'm
• 9:48
  accumulating
• 9:49
  a
• 9:50
  massive
• 9:51
  amount
• 9:51
  of
• 9:52
  data
• 9:52
  and
• 9:52
  experience
• 9:53
  using
• 9:53
  different
• 9:54
  stuff
• 9:54
  and
• 9:57
  you
• 9:58
  know,
• 9:58
  hope
• 9:58
  working
• 9:59
  with
• 10:00
  a
• 10:00
  company
• 10:00
  or
• 10:01
  companies
• 10:02
  in
• 10:02
  the
• 10:02
  future,
• 10:04
  you
• 10:05
  know,
• 10:05
  I,
• 10:05
  I
• 10:05
  can
• 10:05
  benefit
• 10:06
  them
• 10:06
  and,
• 10:07
  and
• 10:07
  anglers
• 10:08
  who,
• 10:08
  who
• 10:08
  deal
• 10:09
  with
• 10:09
  a
• 10:09
  lot
• 10:10
  of
• 10:10
  this,
• 10:11
  I'm
• 10:11
  not
• 10:11
  going
• 10:12
  to
• 10:12
  say
• 10:12
  frustration,
• 10:13
  but
• 10:14
  there's,
• 10:15
  there's
• 10:15
  not
• 10:15
  a
• 10:16
  perfect
• 10:16
  answer
• 10:16
  for
• 10:16
  every
• 10:17
  situation
• 10:17
  and
• 10:20
  it'll
• 10:20
  be,
• 10:20
  it'll
• 10:20
  be
• 10:21
  fun
• 10:21
  to
• 10:21
  help
• 10:21
  that,
• 10:22
  help
• 10:22
  get
• 10:22
  towards
• 10:22
  that
• 10:23
  in
• 10:23
  the
• 10:23
  future.
• 10:24
  Yeah.
• 10:24
  And
• 10:25
  in
• 10:25
  all
• 10:25
  fairness,
• 10:25
  you
• 10:26
  know,
• 10:26
  you,
• 10:26
  your
• 10:27
  love
• 10:27
  affair
• 10:27
  with
• 10:27
  Borax
• 10:28
  hasn't
• 10:28
  run
• 10:28
  its
• 10:29
  course
• 10:29
  yet.
• 10:31
  No,
• 10:31
  it
• 10:31
  hasn't.
• 10:32
  And
• 10:32
  look,
• 10:32
  man,
• 10:33
  since
• 10:34
  day
• 10:34
  one,
• 10:36
  I'm
• 10:37
  100%
• 10:37
  serious
• 10:38
  about
• 10:38
  this.
• 10:40
  I
• 10:40
  was
• 10:41
  blocked
• 10:42
  by
• 10:42
  La
• 10:43
  Z
• 10:43
  Boy
• 10:45
  on
• 10:46
  Instagram.
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  think
• 10:47
  they
• 10:47
  thought
• 10:48
  I
• 10:48
  was
• 10:48
  trolling
• 10:48
  them
• 10:48
  or
• 10:49
  spamming
• 10:49
  them.
• 10:49
  I
• 10:49
  was
• 10:49
  tagging
• 10:50
  them
• 10:50
  so
• 10:51
  frequently
• 10:52
  with
• 10:53
  the
• 10:53
  hopes
• 10:53
  of
• 10:53
  doing
• 10:54
  some
• 10:54
  sort
• 10:54
  of
• 10:54
  co
• 10:54
  branded
• 10:55
  opportunity
• 10:56
  which
• 10:57
  it
• 10:58
  still
• 10:58
  cracks
• 10:58
  me
• 10:58
  up.
• 10:59
  But
• 11:00
  yeah,
• 11:01
  I
• 11:01
  mean
• 11:01
  a
• 11:01
  partnership
• 11:02
  with
• 11:02
  Borax
• 11:03
  or
• 11:04
  having
• 11:04
  Tapatio
• 11:05
  or
• 11:06
  Cholula
• 11:06
  like
• 11:06
  a,
• 11:07
  like
• 11:07
  nascar.
• 11:08
  I'm
• 11:08
  talking
• 11:09
  about
• 11:09
  getting
• 11:09
  decals
• 11:10
  on
• 11:10
  the
• 11:10
  boat,
• 11:10
  buddy.
• 11:11
  You
• 11:11
  know,
• 11:12
  there
• 11:12
  you
• 11:12
  go.
• 11:12
  Well,
• 11:13
  you
• 11:13
  know
• 11:13
  folks,
• 11:14
  we,
• 11:15
  we
• 11:15
  love
• 11:15
  questions
• 11:16
  on
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  articulate
• 11:17
  fly.
• 11:17
  You
• 11:17
  can
• 11:17
  email
• 11:17
  them
• 11:18
  to
• 11:18
  me
• 11:18
  or
• 11:18
  DM
• 11:18
  me
• 11:18
  on
• 11:18
  social
• 11:19
  media,
• 11:19
  whatever
• 11:20
  is
• 11:20
  easiest
• 11:20
  for
• 11:20
  you.
• 11:20
  And
• 11:20
  if
• 11:20
  we
• 11:21
  use
• 11:21
  your
• 11:21
  question,
• 11:22
  I
• 11:22
  will
• 11:22
  send
• 11:22
  you
• 11:22
  some
• 11:23
  articulate
• 11:23
  fly
• 11:23
  swag
• 11:24
  and
• 11:24
  you're
• 11:24
  drawing
• 11:24
  for
• 11:25
  some
• 11:25
  cool
• 11:25
  stuff
• 11:25
  from
• 11:25
  Ellis
• 11:26
  at
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  end
• 11:26
  of
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  season.
• 11:27
  And
• 11:27
  you
• 11:28
  know,
• 11:28
  Ellis
• 11:28
  following
• 11:28
  up
• 11:29
  on
• 11:29
  that,
• 11:29
  you
• 11:29
  want
• 11:29
  to
• 11:29
  let
• 11:29
  folks
• 11:30
  know,
• 11:30
  you
• 11:31
  know,
• 11:31
  it's
• 11:31
  early
• 11:32
  February
• 11:32
  and
• 11:32
  depending
• 11:33
  on
• 11:33
  where
• 11:33
  you
• 11:33
  are,
• 11:33
  you
• 11:33
  may
• 11:34
  be
• 11:34
  able
• 11:34
  to
• 11:34
  fish,
• 11:34
  but
• 11:34
  you
• 11:35
  may
• 11:35
  have
• 11:35
  a
• 11:35
  better
• 11:35
  time.
• 11:36
  Time
• 11:36
  flies.
• 11:37
  You
• 11:37
  want
• 11:37
  to
• 11:37
  let
• 11:37
  folks
• 11:38
  know
• 11:38
  kind
• 11:38
  of
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  status
• 11:39
  of
• 11:39
  Bucktail
• 11:40
  and
• 11:40
  all
• 11:40
  that
• 11:40
  kind
• 11:40
  of
• 11:40
  good
• 11:40
  stuff.
• 11:42
  Yeah.
• 11:42
  So
• 11:43
  Bucktail
• 11:44
  is
• 11:44
  available@elliswardflies.com
• 11:47
  I'm
• 11:47
  going
• 11:48
  to
• 11:48
  be
• 11:48
  doing
• 11:49
  a
• 11:49
  bit
• 11:50
  of
• 11:50
  a,
• 11:51
  you
• 11:51
  know,
• 11:51
  batch,
• 11:52
  batch
• 11:52
  two.
• 11:52
  Really.
• 11:53
  There's
• 11:53
  some
• 11:53
  up
• 11:53
  there
• 11:53
  now,
• 11:53
  but
• 11:54
  I'm,
• 11:54
  I'm
• 11:54
  going
• 11:54
  to
• 11:54
  close
• 11:54
  it
• 11:55
  down
• 11:56
  over
• 11:56
  the
• 11:56
  next
• 11:56
  few
• 11:57
  days
• 11:57
  and
• 11:57
  then
• 11:59
  we'll
• 11:59
  reopen
• 12:00
  it.
• 12:03
  And
• 12:03
  best
• 12:04
  way
• 12:04
  to,
• 12:04
  to
• 12:05
  stay
• 12:05
  in
• 12:05
  touch
• 12:05
  there
• 12:06
  is
• 12:06
  to
• 12:07
  sign
• 12:07
  up
• 12:07
  for
• 12:07
  the
• 12:08
  email
• 12:08
  newsletter
• 12:09
  on
• 12:10
  my
• 12:11
  website@ellisward
• 12:12
  flies.com
• 12:13
  just
• 12:13
  to
• 12:13
  repeat
• 12:14
  that
• 12:15
  for
• 12:15
  tripping,
• 12:16
  for
• 12:17
  trip
• 12:18
  booking
• 12:18
  information
• 12:20
  or
• 12:21
  just
• 12:21
  general
• 12:22
  questions
• 12:22
  about
• 12:23
  trips,
• 12:23
  fishing,
• 12:24
  etc.
• 12:24
  Best
• 12:25
  way
• 12:25
  to
• 12:25
  reach
• 12:25
  out
• 12:25
  is
• 12:26
  my
• 12:26
  Cell
• 12:26
  phone
• 12:26
  at
• 12:26
  513-543-0019
• 12:30
  and
• 12:32
  you
• 12:32
  can
• 12:33
  stay
• 12:33
  in
• 12:33
  touch
• 12:34
  as
• 12:34
  well
• 12:34
  on
• 12:34
  Instagram
• 12:35
  s
• 12:35
  wordguides.
• 12:36
  There
• 12:37
  you
• 12:37
  go.
• 12:37
  And
• 12:37
  just
• 12:37
  a
• 12:37
  reminder
• 12:38
  folks,
• 12:39
  join
• 12:39
  our
• 12:39
  community
• 12:39
  that
• 12:40
  we
• 12:40
  host
• 12:40
  on
• 12:40
  Patreon.
• 12:41
  You
• 12:41
  got
• 12:41
  two
• 12:41
  opportunities
• 12:42
  One's
• 12:43
  a
• 12:43
  discount
• 12:43
  on
• 12:44
  Bucktail
• 12:44
  with
• 12:44
  Ellis,
• 12:45
  and
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  other
• 12:45
  is
• 12:45
  a
• 12:45
  guide
• 12:46
  credit
• 12:47
  with
• 12:47
  Ellis.
• 12:48
  And
• 12:48
  also
• 12:48
  too,
• 12:49
  while
• 12:49
  we're
• 12:49
  in
• 12:49
  the
• 12:49
  public
• 12:49
  service
• 12:50
  announcement
• 12:50
  business,
• 12:51
  remember
• 12:52
  folks,
• 12:52
  that
• 12:53
  the
• 12:54
  butcher
• 12:54
  shop
• 12:54
  first
• 12:55
  episode
• 12:55
  here
• 12:55
  is
• 12:55
  going
• 12:56
  to
• 12:56
  probably
• 12:56
  drop
• 12:56
  in
• 12:56
  a
• 12:56
  couple
• 12:57
  weeks.
• 12:57
  It's
• 12:58
  a
• 12:58
  new
• 12:58
  predator
• 12:59
  fly
• 12:59
  only
• 12:59
  podcast
• 13:00
  we're
• 13:00
  putting
• 13:00
  together.
• 13:01
  You
• 13:01
  can
• 13:01
  find
• 13:01
  it
• 13:02
  anywhere
• 13:02
  that
• 13:02
  you
• 13:03
  find
• 13:03
  your
• 13:03
  podcast.
• 13:04
  I
• 13:04
  would
• 13:04
  subscribe
• 13:04
  now
• 13:05
  so
• 13:05
  you
• 13:05
  don't
• 13:05
  miss
• 13:06
  the
• 13:07
  early
• 13:07
  episodes.
• 13:07
  But
• 13:08
  the
• 13:08
  first
• 13:08
  three
• 13:08
  guests
• 13:09
  out
• 13:09
  of
• 13:09
  the
• 13:09
  gate
• 13:09
  are
• 13:09
  going
• 13:09
  to
• 13:09
  be
• 13:10
  Blaine
• 13:10
  Chocolate,
• 13:10
  Tommy
• 13:11
  lynch,
• 13:11
  and
• 13:11
  Russ
• 13:11
  Madden.
• 13:12
  So
• 13:12
  super
• 13:12
  excited
• 13:13
  for
• 13:13
  that,
• 13:14
  dude.
• 13:14
  I'm
• 13:15
  excited.
• 13:15
  I'm
• 13:15
  excited
• 13:15
  you've
• 13:15
  gotten
• 13:16
  to
• 13:16
  talk
• 13:16
  to
• 13:16
  all
• 13:16
  these
• 13:17
  guys,
• 13:17
  too.
• 13:19
  You
• 13:19
  know,
• 13:20
  I'm
• 13:20
  not
• 13:20
  gonna
• 13:20
  drool
• 13:21
  over.
• 13:23
  Be
• 13:23
  a
• 13:23
  fanboy
• 13:24
  too
• 13:24
  much,
• 13:24
  but
• 13:26
  these,
• 13:26
  these
• 13:26
  guys
• 13:27
  are.
• 13:29
  They're
• 13:29
  good
• 13:30
  people.
• 13:30
  And
• 13:30
  I.
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  know
• 13:32
  now
• 13:33
  firsthand
• 13:34
  a
• 13:34
  little
• 13:35
  bit
• 13:35
  of
• 13:35
  a
• 13:35
  fraction
• 13:35
  of
• 13:36
  what
• 13:36
  it
• 13:36
  took
• 13:38
  to
• 13:38
  sort
• 13:38
  of
• 13:38
  bring
• 13:39
  some
• 13:39
  of
• 13:39
  this
• 13:39
  stuff
• 13:41
  into
• 13:41
  the
• 13:41
  public
• 13:42
  domain.
• 13:42
  And
• 13:43
  it's
• 13:43
  even
• 13:43
  cooler
• 13:44
  that
• 13:44
  you're.
• 13:45
  You're
• 13:45
  bringing
• 13:45
  it
• 13:45
  further.
• 13:46
  Yeah,
• 13:46
  I'm
• 13:47
  excited
• 13:47
  and
• 13:47
  you
• 13:47
  know,
• 13:47
  just
• 13:48
  kind
• 13:48
  of
• 13:48
  building
• 13:48
  on
• 13:48
  that,
• 13:48
  folks,
• 13:49
  you
• 13:49
  know,
• 13:49
  I
• 13:49
  was
• 13:49
  at
• 13:49
  Bob
• 13:50
  in
• 13:50
  the
• 13:50
  Hood
• 13:50
  last
• 13:51
  weekend,
• 13:51
  and,
• 13:52
  you
• 13:52
  know,
• 13:52
  if
• 13:52
  you
• 13:53
  like
• 13:53
  what
• 13:53
  Alice
• 13:54
  and
• 13:54
  I
• 13:54
  talk
• 13:54
  about,
• 13:54
  if
• 13:54
  you're
• 13:55
  into
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  streamer
• 13:55
  game,
• 13:56
  you
• 13:57
  know,
• 13:57
  I
• 13:57
  know
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  dates
• 13:57
  are
• 13:58
  going
• 13:58
  to
• 13:58
  be
• 13:58
  January
• 13:59
  31st
• 13:59
  and
• 14:00
  February
• 14:00
  1st
• 14:01
  of
• 14:01
  2026.
• 14:03
  An
• 14:04
  amazing.
• 14:05
  The
• 14:05
  Schultz
• 14:05
  outfitter
• 14:06
  guys
• 14:06
  do
• 14:06
  a
• 14:06
  great
• 14:06
  job.
• 14:07
  But
• 14:07
  I
• 14:07
  mean,
• 14:07
  if
• 14:07
  you're
• 14:07
  into
• 14:07
  this,
• 14:08
  it
• 14:08
  is
• 14:08
  literally
• 14:08
  like
• 14:09
  going
• 14:09
  to
• 14:09
  Woodstock.
• 14:10
  So
• 14:10
  I
• 14:10
  would
• 14:10
  pencil
• 14:10
  that
• 14:10
  into
• 14:11
  your
• 14:11
  calendar,
• 14:11
  maybe
• 14:11
  make
• 14:12
  plan
• 14:12
  for
• 14:12
  2026.
• 14:14
  It's
• 14:15
  in
• 14:15
  mine.
• 14:16
  Yeah,
• 14:16
  there
• 14:16
  you
• 14:16
  go.
• 14:16
  Well,
• 14:17
  listen,
• 14:17
  folks,
• 14:17
  you
• 14:17
  know,
• 14:17
  if
• 14:18
  it's
• 14:18
  warm
• 14:18
  where
• 14:18
  you
• 14:18
  are
• 14:19
  and
• 14:19
  you
• 14:19
  can
• 14:19
  fish,
• 14:19
  get
• 14:19
  out
• 14:20
  there
• 14:20
  and
• 14:20
  catch
• 14:20
  a
• 14:20
  few,
• 14:21
  you
• 14:21
  know,
• 14:21
  otherwise,
• 14:22
  tie
• 14:23
  a
• 14:23
  few
• 14:23
  flies.
• 14:23
  Or
• 14:24
  if
• 14:24
  you've
• 14:24
  got
• 14:24
  a
• 14:24
  fly
• 14:24
  fishing
• 14:24
  show
• 14:25
  near
• 14:25
  you,
• 14:25
  go
• 14:25
  check
• 14:25
  it
• 14:26
  out.
• 14:26
  Tight
• 14:26
  lines,
• 14:27
  everybody.
• 14:27
  Tight
• 14:28
  lines,
• 14:28
  Ellis.
• 14:29
  Appreciate
• 14:29
  it,
• 14:30
  Marv.