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  Speaker 1: We're just a few short days away from real kind
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  Speaker 1: of Buffalo Bills football as they kick off their preseason
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  Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears this upcoming Saturday. And with that
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  Speaker 1: being said, this episode, we will be diving into what
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  Speaker 1: to watch for, who to watch for against the Chicago Bears,
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  Speaker 1: and the whys behind it players, position groups, depth, chart aspects, schematic, scheme,
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  Speaker 1: coaching points, structure, anything and everything is up for discussion
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  Speaker 1: in this episode of Disguised Coverage. Also little announcement piece.
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  Speaker 1: Disguised Coverage will be live after each one of the
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills preseason games. As has been traditioned in the
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  Speaker 1: past couple of years, Why will be doing the Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: Bills postgame show for each one of the preseason games,
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  Speaker 1: starting this upcoming Saturday against the Chicago Bears. But backtrack
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  Speaker 1: for tonight's episode, what to watch for versus the Bears
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  Speaker 1: in week one of the preseason, Who to watch for?
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  Speaker 1: The whyse behind it all? That's where we're going. We
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  Speaker 1: are going to be diving into and I say we
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  Speaker 1: because I am not alone. Welcoming back to the show
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  Speaker 1: and he's back on camera for the first time in
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  Speaker 1: a long time. I am very excited to welcome back
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  Speaker 1: my boy friend of friend of the show, friend of
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  Speaker 1: cover one, friend of football, and good people all over,
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  Speaker 1: mister Kendall, Mursky Kendall. I'm very excited to have you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time, welcome back. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad your parents let you stay up late and
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  Speaker 1: turn the camera.
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  Speaker 2: All right. The parents thing, it never eludes me. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's always here. It's stuck to me. No, I'm happy
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  Speaker 2: to be here, very happy to be back, happy to
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  Speaker 2: find the time and you making the time to allow
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  Speaker 2: me to be back on I mean, it's it's great
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  Speaker 2: to reunite. I always love talking. Bills don't get a
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  Speaker 2: chance to do it as much anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So I could see you at like we could be
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  Speaker 1: eighty years old. Oh no, and like out in public.
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  Speaker 1: I bet all your parents like, let you come out.
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  Speaker 2: I would do that for It's just it's it's never
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  Speaker 2: going away at this point.
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  Speaker 1: It's never going to stop. So again I kind of
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  Speaker 1: laid the foundation for what this episode is going to be.
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  Speaker 1: But high level for you going into this game is
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  Speaker 1: is there any one thing that sticks out in your mind?
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  Speaker 1: Is there any one particular thing you're gravitating towards. Is
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  Speaker 1: kind of kind of where's your head at going into
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  Speaker 1: this game? Given the roster turnover, we've seen this offseason,
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  Speaker 1: what we've seen in camp thus far, what we've seen
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  Speaker 1: at the scrimmage, what's being reported, what's being talked about,
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  Speaker 1: what's being shown, What kind of like high level things
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  Speaker 1: are on your mind kind of going into this game.
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  Speaker 2: I mean high level specifically, it would be like the
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  Speaker 2: personnel informational trends, because what is life gonna be like
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  Speaker 2: on our new offensive coordinator? So like, are we gonna
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  Speaker 2: see two tight ends most of the time? Are we
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  Speaker 2: gonna get more condensed as a as a formation? Just
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  Speaker 2: what are we gonna see from Joe Brady. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's like the highest level thing because last year, obviously
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  Speaker 2: we only got half a season to sample size. But
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  Speaker 2: then on top of that, like Dawson Knox I believe
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  Speaker 2: was injured for the first two weeks that he was
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  Speaker 2: taking over as offensive coordinator. So even looking at the
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  Speaker 2: stats of like twelve personnel or just two plus tight
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  Speaker 2: ends on the field the splits at week ten, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't really tell a story because the injury of Dawson
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  Speaker 2: Knox changed so many things, and even Dalton Kinkaid kind
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  Speaker 2: of getting you know, banked up a little bit here
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  Speaker 2: and there, So it's kind of tough to really evaluate
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  Speaker 2: the two tight ends thing. And then I feel like, symbiotically,
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  Speaker 2: the two tight ends thing also invites the conversation of
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  Speaker 2: condensing the overall formation itself. You know, you have two
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  Speaker 2: or less wide receivers out on the field, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like there's less reason to spread it out. All that
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  Speaker 2: being said, I mean, Dalton Kinkaid and Dawson Knox have
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  Speaker 2: the ability to go spread out, which I suppose is
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  Speaker 2: talks to a whole nother conversation of multiplicity. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: i'd say high level, but not as broad as where
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  Speaker 2: I just went on that tangent there. High level is
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  Speaker 2: definitely just formationally and personnel wise, what are we going
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  Speaker 2: to see because we're not going to see starters the
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  Speaker 2: whole game, So what is the shell of this Joe
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  Speaker 2: Brady offense going to look like?
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  Speaker 1: I like that as a jump off point for this
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  Speaker 1: and really because it just aligns with so much of
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  Speaker 1: the work I've done this offseason, Like so much of
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  Speaker 1: my focus has been on. And you know this, like,
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  Speaker 1: once the season ends, I'm going and I'm watching tape
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  Speaker 1: and league wide and I do it in season two,
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  Speaker 1: but there's only so much time. But once the offseason hits,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really looking at the trendsetters and the best teams offensively, defensively,
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  Speaker 1: and kind of gravitating towards what do we expect to
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  Speaker 1: see from a league wide schematic trends standpoint in this season,
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  Speaker 1: in the following season, and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: And my big thing for me this year was how
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  Speaker 1: many of the top offenses had reduced formational width and
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  Speaker 1: how they condensed formations and the personnel that those teams had.
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  Speaker 1: And I've talked about the analytics of it. I've broken
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  Speaker 1: down tape on it. I've spoken with me to Kimes
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  Speaker 1: about it on the show. I've spoken with Jpacosta from
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  Speaker 1: SB Nation about it. So much of my focus is
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  Speaker 1: then on kind of changing how the Bills have operated
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  Speaker 1: offensively from a schematic standpoint, because they're much different from
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  Speaker 1: a body type's perspective at the wide receiver room, and
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  Speaker 1: then when you combine the wide receivers with the tight ends,
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  Speaker 1: you just have this overwhelming group of size range and
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  Speaker 1: athleticism and the ability to function in both the run
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  Speaker 1: in the past, and you know, you talking about like
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  Speaker 1: twelve personnel and you know being able to go spread
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  Speaker 1: or you know, go condense. So much of what the
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  Speaker 1: Bills are going to be able to do, I think
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  Speaker 1: rides on being able to run the football and pass
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  Speaker 1: the football out of eleven and out of twelve, where
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  Speaker 1: with either group you can go condensed with eleven and
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  Speaker 1: run it down someone's throat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I give the same looks in either personnel group
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  Speaker 2: and you.
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  Speaker 1: Can really go condensed or spread with both of them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And that like you can access so much of the
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  Speaker 1: menu without having to turn the page with either eleven
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  Speaker 1: or twelve. That's definitely a point. Like I'm I have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of individual player focus going into this first game, sure,
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  Speaker 1: mainly because the roster turnover, But that schematic point I
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  Speaker 1: think is such a fun one.
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  Speaker 2: Is a new personnel as well, it's a new coach.
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  Speaker 1: And we don't get like all the necessarily the bells
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  Speaker 1: and whistles in these preseason games, but like you said here,
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  Speaker 1: you do kind of get that shell of what your
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  Speaker 1: offense is defensively too, Like what you are from a
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  Speaker 1: structure standpoint, it'll show. Are you gonna get all the
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  Speaker 1: designer stuff and specific game plan aspects and mismatch pieces. No,
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  Speaker 1: but you're gonna get the bones of what that side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball will look like. And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: a really interesting point to talk about, because again, we're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna see everything put on on tape right now,
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  Speaker 1: but the kind of the identity or the philosophy, or
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  Speaker 1: the shell or the bones of the offense will get
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  Speaker 1: put on display in each of these games, starting with
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  Speaker 1: you know this first one Saturday. And Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a really fun thing because I really do think
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  Speaker 1: this offense is going to go in a different direction
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  Speaker 1: than they have in the pass with Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 2: I think the interesting thing to this too, and correct
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  Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. You're I'm definitely more out of
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  Speaker 2: practice with the bills than you are nowadays. Joe Brady,
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  Speaker 2: what he did in LSU versus what he did in
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  Speaker 2: Carolina two completely different things, right, And obviously he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: the OC in either stint, but LSU was more spread
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  Speaker 2: and and Carolina was more like condensed to tight ends. Right, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm not wrong in saying that's so interesting. That's
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  Speaker 2: so interesting coming into like his first full season, like
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  Speaker 2: which is he going to adopt? And obviously one was
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  Speaker 2: more successful than the other, and the spread was more successful,
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  Speaker 2: so oh, thank you, Mike. But yeah, so it's it's
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  Speaker 2: so interesting because we've seen both both sides of this
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  Speaker 2: Joe Brady experience just in terms of him being an
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  Speaker 2: NFL staffer. So yeah, it'll be curious what he does
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  Speaker 2: at his first true going into his first full season
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  Speaker 2: with a full off season.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a good point because the like, I think
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  Speaker 1: people when Brady took over last year so much the
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  Speaker 1: conversation was like, well, Carolina sucked and Matt Rule is terrible,
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  Speaker 1: So let's throw that out and let's just focus on
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  Speaker 1: he was the passing game coordinator for that Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 1: LSU team and look what they did, Like that's what
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  Speaker 1: the Bills are going to be. Like it's like that's
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  Speaker 1: really hard to replicate the NFL offense. Like and also
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  Speaker 1: like who else you had? You had Burrow, you had Chase,
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  Speaker 1: you had Jefferson, you had Clyde Edwards Hilaire, like Randy
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  Speaker 1: Moss's kid was your tight end? Terres Marshall right. I
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  Speaker 1: think Terras Marshall was the wide receiver three on that team,
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  Speaker 1: like probably they had a squad like that's one of
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  Speaker 1: the best individual team seasons ever. And yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: he comes from that absolutely, like he comes from that
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton tree. And so you see those elements and
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  Speaker 1: I think you've seen more of who he actually is
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  Speaker 1: at Carolina and then in Buffalo, but I think more
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  Speaker 1: importantly like him coming from that Peyton tree, he's just
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  Speaker 1: going to be a dude who I think understands where
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  Speaker 1: the league is going and what league wide stuff will be. Like,
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  Speaker 1: He's going to understand the bigger picture and then how
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  Speaker 1: to morph his team around that. Because Sean Payton has
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  Speaker 1: never been He's had his core in terms of like
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  Speaker 1: what he is and who he is, but he's been
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  Speaker 1: a guy who's been very fluid, been very able to
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  Speaker 1: adapt to his surroundings and also similar to how this
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  Speaker 1: Bills team has now built, has never really been a
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  Speaker 1: guy who had like a true stud wide receiver one,
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  Speaker 1: Like the best wide receiver in the Sean Payton years
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  Speaker 1: was Marcus Colston yea, and then you had and then
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  Speaker 1: you had like Devrey Henderson and all these dudes like
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  Speaker 1: Peyton lived through Drew Brees as one would expect, but
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham was a monster. The running backs were a
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  Speaker 1: monster like Pierre Like and I'm not talking like oh,
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  Speaker 1: Reggie Bush and Duce McCallister. I'm talking like Pierre Thomas.
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  Speaker 1: Like Pierre Thomas was catching like ninety passes a year
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  Speaker 1: in the Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 2: Offense and like fantasy stud for a little.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, he would, dude, you could get like Pierre Thomas
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  Speaker 1: would score no touchdowns, yeah, and he would give you
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  Speaker 1: like third team points every week because it catches in
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  Speaker 1: yards and what he would do, and then going to
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  Speaker 1: the end of the Payton run in New Orleans, what
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  Speaker 1: Ingram was, what Camara was, and Brady's ability to kind
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  Speaker 1: of maximize the RBS was seen right away. But I
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  Speaker 1: think seeing more of what he's going to be isn't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily dependent on plenty on what he was at the
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  Speaker 1: back end of last year, because, like you said, it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't his offense. You can't uninstall and install a new one.
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  Speaker 1: So this is really the first time that we get
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  Speaker 1: to see what it looks like. Fully, you know, his verbiage,
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  Speaker 1: his idea, his window dressing his concepts in addition to
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  Speaker 1: his layering and sequencing that we got to see a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of. But again now kind of getting to
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  Speaker 1: see the full piece. It's something I'm really intrigued to see.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously you are as well. Obviously a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: in the chat are intrigued to see as well. Kendall,
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  Speaker 1: anything else high level before we dive into it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, relative to the Joe Brady thing, it is a
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  Speaker 2: little funny, like we'll see a little bit of like
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  Speaker 2: the key On Coleman thing. Okay, so you of Marquis Colston,
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  Speaker 2: right and his archetype like right, there's a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a similarity there. And then obviously you said about
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  Speaker 2: you know, spreading the football round and the running backs itself.
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  Speaker 2: But no, I just thought that little player it's not
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  Speaker 2: a player comp but player archetypes similarities with those two.
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  Speaker 2: I just thought that was a little bit funny.
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  Speaker 1: Bigger, yeah, bigger bodied, like wide receiver type ones. I
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  Speaker 1: think On is way more athletic than Colston was, but.
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  Speaker 2: Like the utilization of like a big guy out of
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  Speaker 2: the slot like Marquise Colston wasn't traditionally athletic, but he
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  Speaker 2: was very functionally athletic for the first football specifically, like
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  Speaker 2: he argue looking up like his rasc I'm on.
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  Speaker 1: Looking up his Wow, holy hell, So I just I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm just going to share the screen. Actually
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how.
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  Speaker 2: I like, I can't see your face like lighting up.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, he's he's interested.
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  Speaker 1: His rookie year and again these are just ross so
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  Speaker 1: but his rookie year seventy catches one thousand and thirty
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  Speaker 1: eight yards, his second year ninety eight catches one thousand,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and two yards, and then his third year didn't. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he only played an eleven games, so he only had
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  Speaker 1: seven hundred and sixty catches. The next one two three
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  Speaker 1: four years over one thousand yards receiving in each of them.
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  Speaker 1: Two of the years he had over eleven hundred yards receiving.
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  Speaker 1: Three of those seasons he had eighty catches or more.
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  Speaker 1: He was extremely productive. Again, that was at a time
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  Speaker 1: he played from two thousand and six to twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: So this is still when like everybody wasn't full like
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  Speaker 1: Uber spread let's throw the ball fifty times a game.
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  Speaker 1: He was extremely productive. I did not realize that, Like
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  Speaker 1: I was always.
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  Speaker 2: An Arket Coulson. Yeah, he was a stud.
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  Speaker 1: He was very and Lauren nails it. Two. From an
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  Speaker 1: aesthetic perspectives, he says, like Colson filled out in a uniform.
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  Speaker 2: Better than Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah he man Like I didn't realize he was
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  Speaker 1: that and I should have because I had him in
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  Speaker 1: fantasy a couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Man, yeah he why now looking at these two Saints
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  Speaker 2: offenses for Joe Brady's overlap with the Saints seventeen and eighteen,
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  Speaker 2: I believe it was yeah, very spread around offense, like
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  Speaker 2: mark Ingram Alvin Kamara at the end. Michael Thomas, Willy Sneed,
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  Speaker 2: Tedkin Jr.
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  Speaker 1: Like, Man, I love Michael, I will Michael Thomas right
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  Speaker 1: slant god, Michael Thomas. He was his first three years
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  Speaker 1: were crazy productive. But also another dude. Different stylistically than
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  Speaker 1: well but not a.
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  Speaker 2: Burner traditional X like he has prototypical X size but
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  Speaker 2: like profile, Yeah it's not completely check every single box.
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  Speaker 1: Like he was not a vertical threat at all, but
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  Speaker 1: he just he was so precise and so technical and
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  Speaker 1: physical and smart. Yeah, and that's really been he He's
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  Speaker 1: the best Peyton wide receiver for me, just from like
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  Speaker 1: a production stand point because his first three years were
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  Speaker 1: like crazy Colston's right up there, especially from a longevity perspective.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, like we could like play this game all
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  Speaker 1: the time, like name, yeah, name, like random Saints receivers
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  Speaker 1: and they're not like studs. It's like, oh yeah, like.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is kind of the interesting thing with
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  Speaker 2: like how much did Joe Brady take away from the
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton idea and philosophy? And Sean Payton was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so Michael Thomas, what are you good at?
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  Speaker 1: Oh uh?
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  Speaker 2: It kind of well fits perfectly with my short Drew
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  Speaker 2: Brees who can't see over the line and make deep
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  Speaker 2: down the middle throws, like you know, it's easier to
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  Speaker 2: just hit the slant, hit the quick slant, like if
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  Speaker 2: you see it's there, hit it. If you don't go
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  Speaker 2: to read two, go to read three. And it just
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  Speaker 2: kind of fit the offense. And I forgot where I
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  Speaker 2: heard this, and I'm sure you already know this, but
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  Speaker 2: like Joe Brady's asking each player like, what's your favorite play?
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  Speaker 2: You like, Khalil Shakir, what's your favorite play? Like you,
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, what's your favorite play? Dalton Kinkaid, what's your
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  Speaker 2: favorite play? And you kind of mold it all together
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  Speaker 2: and you figure out, Okay, so these are the staples
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  Speaker 2: that I need to do for quick hitters for this guy.
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  Speaker 2: This guy, and he's building the offense around what the
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  Speaker 2: player does best instead of building the offense around what
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  Speaker 2: he knows best.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which, and I don't want to make this comparison,
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  Speaker 1: but that was like the thing that disappointed me the
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  Speaker 1: most about Rex Ryan because I system and that's what
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  Speaker 1: got me, like I yeah, and I've said on the
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  Speaker 1: show before, like Ed Reed is my favorite player of
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  Speaker 1: all time. I was a legit Ravens fan. I still
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: kind of am, like I root for them after the
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Bills and the forty nine ers because they were my
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: boyhood team as well. But I was pumped when Rex
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Ryan got hired, Like I know how he filled out, yeah,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Like I know how he fizzled out with the Jets
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and what happened, But he just always had these great
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: defenses and I was so disappointed, Like, and I loved
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: his on the front foot attack style minded of defense
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: and what he was able to do with Granted, he
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: had some tremendous players in Baltimore and with the Jets,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: but he got a lot out of like he made
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Jim Leonard was a six safety because of like what
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: he was able to do with rect Urnd, what Recturand
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: was able to do with him and I we had
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: we were coming off of that Cold Front, you know,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Front four with Jerry and Mario and Kyle and just
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Darius and everything they could do. And I really was like, man,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: like Rex is gonna lean into that this further. It's
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be great. He's gonna be able to weaponize the
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: back seven and oh man. And then he was just
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: like Nope, I'm gonna try and put all these square
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: pegs into a round hole and make everybody fit. And
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: that was so because I just think that's it's one
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: hundred percent archaic, like you and especially nowadays where like
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: you only get like two or three seasons to show what's.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Up, Like yeah, now, may, oh my god.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: You can't make those dudes bit a system that doesn't work.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: So it's not like you were like, well, I'm gonna
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: run my system and I'm gonna weed out the guys
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: who don't fit it. You're not gonna get that time.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: And it drove me so nuts that like the offense
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: ended up being fine we had this power run game
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: with McCoy and that offensive line. The defense was the problem,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and he just tried to take something that wasn't broken
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and tried to fix it into his mold and his vision.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And it is so archaic and it just seems so basic,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: with the idea of like, Okay, let me look at
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: what I have and build my team accordingly. And I
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: think what we got from being a McDermott and obviously
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Joe Brady's input as well going into this season and
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: this offseason is wanting to shift the identity and the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: nature and the philosophy of this offense and then bringing
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: in the right players from a size and body type
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: standpoint in order to execute that. I don't think this
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, well these are the players we got, Okay,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: now we have to do this thing. I think the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: identity in the direction was set already and then they
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: put those pieces in motion with everybody they brought in
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: for that kind of holistic viewpoint. Granted to Stefan Digg's time,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I can kind of throw a wrench into that particularly,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's just there's so much to look
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: for with this offense. So much of it regular season
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: will determine it, but kind of getting the little glimpses
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: in the preseason, I think it could tell us a
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Which is I will say before we move on, because
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I know we're going next topic. I it's not that
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I don't feel the same way about Bobby Babbage. It's
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that I know that defense isn't gonna change a lot,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Like it's still Sean McDermott at the head, like you
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's obviously it might be a
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: different person calling plays, different defensive coordinator, but it doesn't
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: feel the same in terms of holistic changes.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: No, I agree. I think you'll see like little tweaks,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: like you know, maybe more blitzes, you know, from like
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: three percentage points or something, or maybe more like simulated
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: pressures or creeper pressures. But then even even that, I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: think like maybe we would have seen that last year
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: if Milano didn't go down and if Datamon didn't go down.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Like all the time, it's all muddied anyways. Now.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do think I do think it is
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: kind of like not necessarily saying this, but I feel
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: like Sean McDermott in the interview was like, this is
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: how I want the defense to be are you gonna
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: do it that way?
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Yes? Or no? Are you okay with this?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: If you are sign here.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the right. Oh you are okay? Cool. Here's
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the clipboard. Fill out these three pages of paperwork. If
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you need anything else, come back in my office let
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: me know. Like, yeah, I think he had to be
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: on board. I think Babbage is more. I think the
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: offense is more wholesale identity and philosophical changes that are
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: in line with league wide trends, whereas the defense is
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: more like Babbage, kind of adding some layers and some
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: tweets to it, Yes, to a formula that's already established
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and kind of put in motion. There anything else or
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: should we dive into it now?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I'm good there?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful, all right. So for those playing at home
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and watching this live, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Kendall would as well. We Kendle comments all the time
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: about how awesome the chat is. So don't let Kendle down,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: especially now that he's back on camera. But it's one
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: of my favorite aspects of going live. So anything you
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: folks got questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, throw them up into
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the chat as always, but also throw up into the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: chat what you're watching for, who to watch for? Is
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it a specific player, is it a position group, is
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it a side of the ball, is it a coaching piece?
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Is it some ran? Are you just looking for more
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: play action or more motion, like any specific niche detail
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: or anything and everything you got thrown up into the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: chat so we can kind of discuss it, breaking down,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: go back and forth a little bit. Kendall, you are
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the guests. I'm going to edit the banner because I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: didn't put and who, and I'm annoyed at myself for
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: not doing it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: This is just amateur hour, shoddy worksmanship.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Just really just really bush league subpar stuff. I change it.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: It's back up. Kendall, you're the guest. Do you have
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: these Do you have these ranked? Are they all equal?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: For you?
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, we're each going with
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: our top three, they could be the same. We don't know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: we're lying to each other stuff. Do you have them ranked?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Are they all equal? Do you want to start with
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: one in particular?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I want to start with one in particular because it's broad.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's a ranking, but it's broadly just rookies.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I mean that's especially with this draft class. It's a
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: big draft class. Uh, looks like the biggest in close
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: to ten seasons for the history. No, no, no, I'm just
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: like scrolling through the Bill's years right now. I'm like, Yep,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: this is more than anything until.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Remember when going into it, everybody was like, there's so
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: many picks, Bean is definitely gonna.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Package him and tating him. I mean we say that
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: every year, but the roster was we hit the reset.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: So it makes sense to, you know, draft a lot
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: of players and see how many you can turn into
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: cheap labor for the next four seasons. So I'm very
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: interested to see how a lot of these young guys play.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Real quick, did you see this comment? Just the Timmy
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: can Do said the last time Kenda was on here,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: we were all having a crush on Raheem Black Chear.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You brought that back.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Appairly not factually correct, but I love the reference to Bills.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Actually, it might be maybe the last away. No I'm
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: talking from an on camera perspective. Oh maybe, but no,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: but that would have been a preseason film room and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you continued through the year. But I like, yeah, I
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: like the lower I love the lowre like it's a.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Great lower reference for Bill's culture calls.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: All right, I popped for that comedy. Yeah, it's not Kendall's.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Kendall's been on a bunch like even like the last year.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I like that.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: That's kind of scattered throughout the year. No, yeah, so yeah, anyways, rookies,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we know the wide receiver change. Kean
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Coleman like excited to see if he gets snaps how
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: many snaps? Like, I don't know. There hasn't been news
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: on Bills playing time yet, right know, Caleb Williams is playing.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: That's honestly probably.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: An honorable I'm super pumped for that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Honestly, that should be an honorable mention that us as
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Bills fans get to see the number one overall pick
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: like kind of first because no one else is. Well,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: maybe some people are going to be watching it because
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: it's on NFL Network, but otherwise I.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Think it's cool. Two or two of their three games are.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: On hype about that not being in Buffalo.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I've been thinking of that, like all my years living
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: in New York. The Bills were terrible and so they
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: got no play and like once I moved up here,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: like I feel like every one of their preseason games
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: is always on NFL netw work, and I'm like, well,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm so annoyed.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah uh yeah, so that's honorable mention. We get to
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: see Caleb Williams just passively as we're watching other things.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: So Cole Bishop's not going to play. That sucks. Dwayne
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Carter haven't really heard a lot of reports about him
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: in camp, so I'm curious to see, like what he
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: does on filmy. Ray Davis, I'm very excited about. Haven't
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: heard any reports, but honestly, that's kind of like a
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: storyline within a storyline that I'm watching, which is rookies,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: but then also like backup running backs, Like how is
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: that all gonna shake out? Yeah? Very happy about Ray Davis.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I like that draft pick a lot. I heard Cedric
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: fan Pran Granger isn't getting play like you're working with the.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Third team for the most part. Yeah, pretty much from
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the onset, I forget what who's been I'm a tweeting out.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: It's been like a mix of like clap and and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: really wow.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Usually the veteran the like one off veteran they sign
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: every offseason just kind of gets lost.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been like a literal combination of like Clap,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Alec Anderson, Britain's been getting some work at like Gard
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and mixed in with like the threes and sometimes with
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the two's. Yeah, it's so VPG has pretty much kind
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of been like the third team center for the most part.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Alec Anderson and Clap have kind of rotated, rotated back
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and forth between like, yeah, you'll get a series where
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: like Alec Anderson's at center and then the next one
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: like Will Clapp will do some stuff at center and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Anderson is at Garden like vice versa.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Are they even wasting their time with Anderson at tackle anymore?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: No, I have not seen him. It's pretty much been
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Vandermark and the rookies. Yeah, Vandermark. Oh, I think if
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I'm go back in my notes because I want to
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: say something that I don't think was crazy. Yeah, Clayton
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: has gotten some time with the second team, not a ton,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: but you've seen that. Oh I'm sorry, not Clayton. Travis
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: or Tyler Grable has gotten to work with the second team.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Collins has pretty much been at left guard, and there's
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: been a couple of snaps where he's been at tackle,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Anderson's not really getting burned. He's pretty much
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: getting burned between center.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: And no, I'm happy with that. I remember watching his
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: tape when they got him as a UDFA, and I
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: remember the plan was to kind of play in flex
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: between tackling, and yeah, Anderson and I like his tape
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: at guard. I thought he was solid, he he could move, and.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Some real like meanness too. He's trying to bury dudes
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: and push them through the turf, which.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I always loved that demeanor. Yeah, you got to have
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: a couple of guys like that. He got five out there.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: A couple gotta be meaning like that. But yeah, so
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: there's just like a lot of guys. Obviously, I really
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: want to see Javon Solomon. I imagine same. I should
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: go back to fan praying Granger. If he's that low
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: on the depth chart, that means he's probably gonna get
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of time in this game and the whole preseason. Like,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: as I go down this list, now, like these guys
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: were probably going to see a lot of them. That's
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: kind of why I'm excited about this big draft class.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Javon Solomon, like, I'm very excited to see
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: his unique build, like nice to get put to work
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: on the field. I've seen nothing and then yeah, the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: tackles and daikwon hardy, no idea how they're I heard
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: they're not using him in the slot. They're actually using
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: him in a little bit outside. And then obviously as
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: a returner.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: He's been getting both. So the scrimmage was a good example.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: He was playing in the slot but then also playing
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: outside and he had a really nice interception low red zone.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I believe it was either quarters or cover two, but
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: there was nobody underneath. So he carries man vertical and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: if the ball had been put in like a good spot,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: he would have gotten the PBu, but it was underthrown
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit. He went up brought it down.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I n t.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: He's had a couple of really good plays in camps like.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Athletics, showing the ball skills type of thing.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Like like sticky and cover as at yep, not to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: forget about the returns off like seeing like plays on
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the ball, sticky in coverage physical honestly, so much so
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: that I went back and watched his tape from this
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: year and I went right to the Ohio State game again,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and it shows like he's he's not covering Harrison because
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: they kept king on Harrison wherever he went. But he's
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: going toe to toe with the Ohio State receivers and
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: he's making plays downfield. Like Penn State's running a lot
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: of cover one, so he's in man coverage in the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: slot a ton. He's getting pulled into the box and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: making plays against the run. It's like chopping dudes down. Yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see him. He's looked really good
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: him and.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Just another long line of late drafted cornerbacks by this
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: this tenure that just they just keep getting them right. Yeah, yeah,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: that's fair. Oh.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I like I like this from Lawrence does the equipment
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: team probably can't get the font small enough to fit
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: vpg's name on the jersey. Secret deciding factor. I love
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that the idea of curved to curve it. I like
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: like a baseball jersey. I love the idea of the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: equipment team secretly rooty against him because they're like, dude,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: don't want to.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: So this sucks.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I hate this.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Every week it's a new jersey with this guy keeps
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: ripping them.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: There's so many vowels. This sucks. Yeah, I love the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: idea of them like secretly rooting.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: They're like losing money on his font every letter they
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: have to print.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: They're like I think I would saying the team is
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: like Super in the red because they're spending so much
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: money on like letters and fonts and stitching because they
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: have to keep going through VPG name plates.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: That's good A right, Sorry to him. I am very
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: excited about him.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: And to your point, though, he's gonna get like and
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: that's a significant factor as well that I like you mentioned,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: like when you have some roster turnover and you have
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a big draft class and you have guys that are
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: trying to make the team, and you have decisions to
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: be made on.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: The lot more battles than we've seen in like four
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: or five seasons.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Like it's it's nice to have these games. I mean,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you and I watch a ton of preseason games anyway,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: because there's like, oh, yeah, that guy that like the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Rams took in the seventh round. I loved him in
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, So I'm gonna want to get on exactly.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Like, so I'm watching the fourth quarter of like Rams
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and Raiders Super Intent because they have this one guy
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I like, But I think it gives more oomph to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: these games because people want to see story Ray Davis.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: They want to see, Yeah, how much is keyon Coleman playing? Okay,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I want to see what dia Kwon Hardy looks like. Okay,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I want to see how JaMarcus Ingram is playing in
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the third quarter. Whatever the hell. Yeah, it gives you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: more more reason to kind of tune in and continue
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to watch.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, one hundred percent agree. That's really why I
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: broadly like this is the first one I wanted to
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: talk about. It kind of hits just like a lot
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: of things very you know, mile wide, inch deep. There's
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of rookies in this draft class, a lot
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: of turnover with this roster. I'm excited to see how
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the rookies fit in because we're gonna see a lot
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: of them play in particular, probably less so than the
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: free agents, but yeah, there's a lot of new faces.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see the rookies in particular and
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: they're playing time.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I literally more did the exact same thing for a topic,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: right because when I had on, when I had Joe
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Marino on to do, like what to watch moign training camp.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: One of his things was like the rookies and I
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: was so, I was like, that's a good thing. I
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: was like, I should do that for the preseason game
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: and I was gonna and I didn't. So I think
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: it's very funny, but.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: It works, like it's kind of the first thing that
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: comes to your brain. You're like, nah, that's too easy,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and then you're like, well, well it kind of, you know,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: makes sense.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: It's also significant, like the rookies are going to play
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: a role, like, yeah, how much Key Homan.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Whether it's not this year, like these rookies could make
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: a significant impact onto like how long Sean McDermott stays
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: around in Buffalo, Like there is a ripple effect to
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: this draft class.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you and I talked about this a couple
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of years ago, like of how important these upcoming off
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: seasons were as Allen's contract started to kick in Loan exactly.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: So many ripples, like it's endless. I was being hyperbolic
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: with the McDermott part, but.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, like you need to hit on this
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: cheap labor while you can, and if you're not hitting
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: on it, that means you're probably kind of flailing around
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: in obscurity and also going to know and people are
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: also gonna come for your head because they're like, well
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: you got Josh Allen. You're not hitting on your guys,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: You're not developing your guys like that. If you don't
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: hit on these classes, once you pay the QB, it's
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: a fast track to kind of be bounced. If you're
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: the head coach of that, you're the GM, Like, I
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: think there is some kind of credence to that statement.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I think these rookies are a huge storyline,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: like how much you know whether you're going from Keyak
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Coleman all the way down to like gravel at the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: end and even the udfa's like and a lot of honestly,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: like a lot of the rookies play into.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: My god, I forgot about Frank Gore junior baby Gore.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, he's he's look good. Yeah, I've actually
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: been like super And it also parkins me back to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: as being like a Miami guy. He Frank Gore tearing
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: his acls are the only reason that Clinton Portis got
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: snaps and Willis mcgahey got snaps because Gore kept getting hurt.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And there's interviews like if you when they sit down
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and talk with like Portis and mcgahey, both of them
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: are like, oh, Frank Gore was the best dude in
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the running back room. Like they're like, we don't.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Be ironic because of whose careers in the NFL were
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: cut short.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Yep and Fred. So Frank Gore just kept tearing ACLS
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: and was like it's fine, I'm just gonna come back
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and play for twenty years in the NFL and be
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: like he's like a top ten.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Rusher of all time, Like from a yard perspective, Yeah,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I totally didn't acknowledge that.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: What's a fun thing if you ever can't go to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: YouTube and watch Frank Gore's like pre ACL injury highlights
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: at Miami. Yeah, dude, he's just like he was so
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: for so wild and yeah, his kid looks really good.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Baby Gore has been sweet. The running backs been showing up.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's rocking the twenty like his dad, and
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: he's just got juice and vision. He runs similar with
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the high knees and the feet and punching the ground.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: He's been a fun dude to see. That's another like, yeah,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: like the udi's rookies baby, rookies babies, all the all
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the baby bills, the baby bills, I.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Think it just title let that Oh no.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Right, so they factor into all three of my top ones,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and again I consider doing just like a rookies one.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know which I'm going to because you mentioned
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I was like all the kind of segue into one
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: of the guys you mentioned, but you mentioned every person
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: in my three. I'll start, Okay, I'll start with this
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: one first. I'm interested to see the edges after the
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: top three. So I think the top three is pretty
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: set Grout aj Apanessa von Miller, not necessarily in that order,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: but I think we know how the top three is
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: gonna function in the depth chart. I really like Smooth.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I want to see how he plays. I thought he
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: was going to be Edge four for ever since he signed.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I've broken down his tape on the show
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and his advanced metrics, and I think he would just
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: be such a quality dude at edge four from a
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: play style perspective, from production perspective. But then after that,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like I want to see Casey two Hill. He's shown
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: better as a path rusher then I thought he would.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: But I still think he's really just a high motor
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: guy run defender. Javon Solomon like factors heavily into this
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: conversation for me, and you talked about him as well,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: like hate just being that archetype departure from a from
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: a height and weight standpoint, you know, in the Bean era,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: their edges are, you know, six ' four and above
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy pounds and above. And then here's
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Javon Solomon who's not even six ' one and he's
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: two hundred and forty six pounds, but he does have
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: good arm length for his size and he's got good
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: hand size. He's not a pocket compressor, like he's a
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: moves guy and a pass rush plan guy and a
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: bend in athleticism dip kind of guy.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm so strange, but like you saying all of
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: this just makes me think about Ajpinessa's weight loss.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: So that goes me into another thing too, like and
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: who did oh? I was doing the leading the charge
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I was on with Fernando Smoot from Rumblings over the weekend,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: and we were talking about that, like how funny it
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: is that, like they're cool with Solomon doing that, but
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: then they took Ajfanessa and like, hey man, yeah we're
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: gonna draft you. We need you to lose like thirty pounds. Yeah,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: we change your game.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And is that foreshadowing? Like did they always and then
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: like the years after then you get von Miller? Like
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: was this always truly just foreshadowing like Sean McDermott is never.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Super early though foreshadow Well.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: It could be like it takes two years for each
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: to happen pretty much, right, like AJF Panessa's drafted two
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: years later von Miller and then two years after von
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Miller Jevon Solomon, Like did they always want like a
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: rotational pass rush specialist? You know, they want their archetype,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: that is the main guy that they want in the
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: edge group. But then you want to sprinkle doing it again,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: You want to sprinkle in a couple of those twice,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Though, Like I really do
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: wonder if that was always the thought process, the philosophy
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: behind Like yeah, AJP Pinessa's weight loss for whatever reason,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, we like his technical ability. Now
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: we're going to change him from a body makeup into
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the archetype that we wanted because no one else in
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: this draft class fit it or whatever their reasoning was,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just kind of making that bad.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: No, that could be. I always found it interesting because
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: he was like a big physical compression guy, which is
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: what they want, and they were like, Nope, we want
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you to be.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Like to this day, we just don't have an answer
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: on that. Now you talking about this is like kind
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: of you know, backwards working it out for me in
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: my head that that might be why.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: That could be. And Solomon definitely kind of yeah, brings
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: up that AJ transformation a little bit more and questions
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: it a little bit more. And yeah, I'm just interested
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: to see His tape is really fun from a past
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Rus standpoint at Troy, like watching him, you know, do
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the ghost rush and feign a stab and and Ben
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: underneath and his long arm at times, and how he
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: can just win that half man relationship and flatten and
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: get to the quarterback Kingsley Jonathan has flashed at times too,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Like I'm very yeah, boy, going way back. I I'm
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: very interested to see how again. I've always thought Smoot
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: was gonna be Edge four, and I thought that made
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense. It was a really good thing,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: but technically Edge four and beyond is all up for grabs,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: like it could be anyone's game and we're not gonna
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I don't regardless of what happens, I don't think we're
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: gonna see a ton of grout in this game. I
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna to see a ton of AJP andes.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I doubt we see von Miller, which.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Means a lot of guys getting from Lauren.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I love you now change straight out of the women's playbook.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: That's very good. I like that, well done. I like
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that a lot. Lawrence crushing it. Laura always crushes it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: He's on fire, right, Yeah, she's crushing it. This is
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: like my like I feel like NBA jam heat check.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Like here on fire, we just hit anything from mid court. Yeah, Like,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: how does that edge four and beyond play out? Because
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: in theory, it's all up for grabs and anything can happen.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: And those are the guys who are gonna see snaps.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I think Smoot will see some reps in this game.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: But you're gonna get a lot of two Hill, You're
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of Kingsley Jonathan, You're gonna get
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of Javon Solomon. Klein has gotten some work
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: with the second team in camp and at the scrimmage,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: like he I think is kind of an outlier in
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: this conversation in terms of what he can be. You know,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: does Cameron Klein kind of throw a wrench into the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: conversation and he's the Edge four or Edge five, like
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: who gets pushed out because so much of it For me,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I have said it a bunch like and you and
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I have talked about it through text like this edge
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: grouping has a lot of depth, which is cool and good,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: but the top end pass rush productivity isn't there right now,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: you're a name, yeah right, we don't know. You're hoping
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: group takes a jump there, or a Japanessa takes a
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: jump or maintains the efficiency numbers that he was at
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: last year with more volume and sample size, or you're
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: hoping von Miller kind of regains some form, or you're
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: hoping Javon Solomon is this hunter on known passing downs
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and situations that can get you like eight sacks this
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: year on limited snaps or if it's smoot or if
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: it's Kingsley, or if it's too like it's a lot
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: of hope based and so I'm looking to see who
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: kind of separates themselves. Can somebody get to the quarterback,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: because I really do love the idea of a top
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: four of grout epinessa Vaughn Smoot, and then your edge
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: five is Javon Solomon who doesn't have to bang against
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the run a ton and can just be this known
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: passing down assassin and come off the and just come
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: off the edge, put them out wide and let them
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: hunt and cook. And I would like to see that
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: in this game, Like I'd like to see Javon Solomon
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: come away with like two sacks and like five pressures
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: in the ability to win off the edge. Or maybe
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: King maybe again, maybe Kingsley, Jonathan Dust, maybe it's.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Climb, whoever it is, you want to stand out because
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: you're you're lacking a little bit of that comfort with
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: the topics of the group. So you're hoping the depth
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: shows itself against other depth in the preseason. This is
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: what theseason is all about. Yeah, figure, I don't think
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: he has elite depth.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think they have like an A or
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: an A plus overall edge guy. Like I think Groot
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: is like an A plus as an edge defender versus
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the run, but he's more like kind of like a
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: B to B plus at times a pass rusher hasn't
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: crept up to an A. And so yeah, if you're
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: not gonna have a true elite or a level dude
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher off the edge, that's fine, But
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: then you need as many b's and B pluses and
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: just keep a fresh exactly, So very much to see
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: who can be that from edge four through edge five,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: because again, like if Evanessa, I like aj Abanessa, But
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: there's a legit chance that what we saw last year
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: was like the best we're gonna see and if he
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: could maintain that cool, But maybe with more volume and
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: more sample size, maybe he's not as efficient as impressive. Yeah,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: or maybe Vaughn these flashes were seeing in camp, maybe
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: they don't maintain or sustain throughout the entirety of the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: year or once bullets are live and he's not that guy.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe group doesn't take that jump as a pass rusher,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: And even though his ceiling is so high, maybe we've
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: seen it. So much of that unknown And then how
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: important and how much of a premium position edge is
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, but especially for the Bills, and how
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: much rotation matters in today's NFL in today's football and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: also for the Bills. Yeah, it's a spot that I'm
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: really looking at.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, in the AFC, you better have good edges
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: because my god, you gotta get after every team has
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: a quarterback.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Everybody you have and now like to like with the run,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the run game coming back, you have to defend the
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: run and you have to defend the pass, which is
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: also what worries me a little bit with Solomon because
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: he is smaller. He plays like a velociraptor versus the run,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: like he is violent and aggressive and angry.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: He's not like traditional. Is it is it like still
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: contained and disciplined or is it like still just solid,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: very well rounded and traditional defense, you know, like is
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: it is it kind of unconventional the way he wins.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: No, it's good, like it's technically sound like he stays flat,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: he he stacks and tries to a shed or he
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: will shoot and penetrate like.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: He makes it off. Yeah, he makes it work, dispe.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: But the issue is like he makes it work less
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: when he's facing dudes that have arm length and size,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: like every single tackle does in the NFL, Like every
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: single tackle he's going to go up against is going
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to have him by minimum, like sixty pounds at minimum,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: but probably way higher you're looking at like sixty five,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: just like a seventy five to eighty pound difference. The
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: size height is going to be different, the arm length,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: like how much can he win first touch?
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: How much garters are going to be playing. This is
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: a good test for him. They got some like nice
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: prototypical tackle size with Braxton Jones and Darnell Right.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm I'm like, I want to see him
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: go up against Darnell Wright, who I loved last year
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: and who they came on as this year. The season
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: went along last year for Chicago. Yeah, like seeing how
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: much kind of burn or run that he gets overall,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: and again just rounding out kind of the edge grouping
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and kind to terms of what we're going to see.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: That's one for me.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's a good one. I like that one
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: a lot. Makes sense. I mean, I think the thing
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: that really that really resonated with me was was the
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: top end bit, Like just the unknowns of the top
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: end and getting answers about who's going to stand out
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: in the depth group for this position is Yeah, it
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: would be comforting.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a perfect way to put it,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Like I want to be able to have a warm
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: blanket of edge play knowing like, Okay, you know what, maybe.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I don't want to add comfortable with the top end,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: but those top three alone doesn't make you feel like no,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: because this team's going to be top tens.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, Because even with those top three and being comfortable
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: with them, you're still hoping for someone to take a jump.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Like whether it's Von, whether it's Group, whether it's a
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: j there's each one of them have an if attached
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: to them or some semblance of hope attached to them,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to have to worry about that.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I want some kind of known, So I don't want
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: to even if I have to hope for the top three,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I can mitigate some of my trepidation around that by knowing.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's someone in the rotation is gonna eat.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my hope. So you need to have as
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: much as many dudes that can eat. And if you
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: can't beat them with quality, you got to beat them
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: with quantity. And if you can rotate and cycle in
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and out six dudes or five dudes who are all
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: being a b to B plus or B to A minus.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Then you got a squad.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now I feel that. I like that one.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: What do you got for your next one?
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: My next one is the secondary changes in particular, Like
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: obviously we've talked a lot a lot about just the
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: roster turnover, but specifically honing in on like a group position.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Group wise, it's the secondary between the safeties and Trey
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: White leaving, I guess is the best way to put it. Yeah,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously those guys were leaders, so it's not
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: only what they brought on the field, it's also what
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: they brought off the field, So not as ctainly one
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: for one changes like who's going to step up in
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: the secondary room on that front, but the leadership front
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: could just be you know, anyone who's going to replace
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: them specifically, So that's just kind of like one piece
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: of this puzzle. But then the other pieces. Obviously who
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: won for one replaces them on the back end from
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: a deployment perspective, And obviously, yeah, they all had their
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: unique abilities, like Poyer was so versatile, Like he joined
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Buffalo in twenty seventeen. He's the only player in the
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: NFL with twenty interceptions and thirty tackles for loss in
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: that span, So like he's rich, Like he's just so versatile,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Like twenty seventeen is a long time ago, like to
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: put up those type of stats and specifically interceptions with TFLs,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: like it really shows the versatility of how he was
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: deployed and how he succeeded in Buffalo. So like he's
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: such a unique player and Hyde was just such a ballhawk.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Like the way he had ball production was just insane.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: He had a twenty two percent hawk rate since twenty
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: seventeen when the Bills got him, which is third highest
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: in the NFL over that span, with you know, the
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: qualifier of actually getting targets thrown your way. So hawk
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: rate is really just like a it's a stat that
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: shows boss yeah yeah, or pass defense based on how
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: many targets you're getting. So like, I mean, we knew
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: he was a ballhawk, but like that's just kind of
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: an easy stat to pull to be like, yeah, he
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: he gets his hand on the football a lot, and
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Trey White, like Trey White. The most interesting thing is
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: that he had three interceptions in four passes defense since
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I believe it was twenty twenty one, and he only
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: played twenty one games in that three season span, still
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: had three interceptions in fourteen pass defense, Like that's pretty
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: much a season and change in twenty one games, like
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: he was getting injured in like coming back too early
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: from all of these injuries and still like managing to
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: cobble together great games like as a broken souldier, Like
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: he's he's gonna be someone really missed in this secondary.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: My first Bills Jersey in a long time was him,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Like he was a stud straight out of LSU. You
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: just know, like the leadership in the on field aspect
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: that he's he is, it's gonna be missed. But then
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: you like you look at the replacements and it's like
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: there are some things to be excited about, Like Christian
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Benford has shown a lot of promise in the short
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: span that he's had, even with his injuries and stuff.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: And then like Rasul Douglas was just a stud immediately
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: after he was brought to Buffalo. So when was he was?
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Right before Week nine after the trade deadline. He had
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: six takeaways, four interceptions, and two fumber recoveries since Week nine,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: which is the most of any one player in the
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: NFL over that span of time, Like it's just instant impact.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: He was plugged right in and he made an impact.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: So very interested to see like how that cornerback one
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: is really gonna shake. And then obviously the report of Elam,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: like finding his confidence and how he shakes into this,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Like Elam is a really obviously massive storyline. I mean,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: people who watch us with a lot of loyalty know
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: how we feel about Kyri Elam and like that was
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: kind of our heyday when Kyer Elam was drafted, Like yeah,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: it's true, Like he's just a big storyline for the Bills,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: and like how that draft pick in particular is going
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: to pan out through the lifetime of that rookie contract
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: and he has two more years to really show he's
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: worth reinvesting in. So this is a big preseason for
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: him to establish where he belongs on this roster. And
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: like the rookies we've talked about, he's in a unique
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: position kind of similar to those rookies where he's gonna
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: get a lot of opportunities to show it this preseason.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: And then obviously the safeties like a lot of injuries
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: right now, which is you know, an interesting dynamic with
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: replacing the safeties but yeah, there's just a lot of
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: names that you can go through and just kind of like,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: how are the veterans. It's like Kareem Jackson gonna fit in,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Like yep, Mike Edward's gonna get healthy enough. DeMar Hamlin,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: like what does he look like two years after? Stuff
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: like that. Like there's just a lot of turnover in
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: the secondary room. And I'm man, I'm interested to see it.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Probably not on broadcast, yeah, probably on.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Coaches film the All twenty two. I was, so, this
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: is my next point is the same. I I just
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: titled it the DB's but then I also put like,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: even if my notes are just too but I put
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: DB's parentheses, gonna have to wait for the All twenty two.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: I literally put that, did you see that? I'm gonna
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: show it right now. I really like this graphic that
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I hate. You gotta add it to the stage or
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: the same thing. So this is nice. This is from
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: j fort gang uh at Thrill the damn ball he
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: does stuff for PFF. This is twenty twenty three cornerback
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: separation prevention and catch point grade. So the catchpoint grade
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: on the y access is a little or the y
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: axis is a little subjective because it's like a PFF grade,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: but the bottom there is percentile separation prevented. And look
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: what you have. So Raseul Douglas is up here with
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: the Packers Lowe because he started the year with the Packers.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: But look at what the Buffalo Bills have right here
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: with Raseul Douglas, Taron Johnson and Christian Benford in terms
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: of separation being prevented, Like as a unit, you don't
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: have a lot of teams with their two outside corners
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and their nickel corner. In that group, You've got the
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Jets with Sauce and Michael Carter here and then DJ
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Reid is down here, so you've got those three here.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: You've got Trent McDuffie, Lugeriusnead and Jalen Watson here. But
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: that's really it, like Benford and Tarn and Douglas or
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: a really good grouping statistically and from an advanced metrics
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: standpoint last year, but also just what they do like
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: schematically and what you're able to do in man and
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: zone and the press ability that you have and you
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: can be up and press and jam, you can be
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: up and press and bail and then like the match
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: coverage capability so on, and so for what Tarn does
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: against the run, what Benford and Douglas do against the run,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: and importing that is now because you have to be
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: a legitimate run fitter and finisher as a dB, not
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: just safeties in terms of being like a slaughter Apex
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: and the outside corners. So I love them as the
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: top three. What I want to see from the dbs
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: in this game is pretty much everybody aside from them,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: like the safeties, and then everybody that's in theory behind
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: them from a depth perspective. So start with Kyrie Elam,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: who you talked about. He's been looking really good in
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: camp and in the scrimmage you're starting to see cleaner feet,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: his eyes are leading him to the football. He had
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: a nice interception of Alan in seven on seven on
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the scrimmage where it was cover two. They ran a
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: smash concept to his side and he read Alan and
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: didn't nail down on the hitch, and he kept saying
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: he sank underneath the corner, reached up sky picked it.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: He's had a couple of really good plays in one
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: on one and even a lot of this isn't even
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: me like kind of trying to find a silver lining.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: A lot of the Keon Coleman highlights that are being
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: shown from camp on the bills Twitter are against Kyri Elam.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: But the coverage is so good. It's either a perfect
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: throw from Allen or an amazing catch from Keyan Coleman,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: and the odds of those happening consistently. Yeah, it is
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: not how well.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: It goes back to the statistical graphic that you just showed. Yes,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: tight coverage at the catch point, Like you bet on
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: the guy that can do that consistently, and you just
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: hope the offense isn't better than that great couch.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, and you know Cayer's gotten got a couple times,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: but he's also gotten his share with PBUs and I
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: n T's and plays on the ball in camp and
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: he's looking really good. And I want to see if
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: that continues again. I still don't. I for me, my
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: starters are still Benford and Douglas. I still think Christian
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Benford gets like not enough respect, even like with kyer
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Elam succeeding now in camp, so many people are ready
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: to be like, see there he is. Yeah, I just
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: put him, put him ahead of Benford, put him ahead
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: of Douglas like, and I'm not there yet, So I
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: want to see what Kyrie.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: You can never have enough at the end of the day,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: like they're probably all three of them are gonna play
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: significant time this year.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: You can never have enough corner depth. To your point,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: it's a premium position. I literally just said it on
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: the show I was just on previously Kyri. Elam is
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: going to start or play regular season reps at some
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: point because somebody's gonna get hurt, like it's just the
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: name of the game, and so seeing what Elam can do,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: but even then going after him. JaMarcus Ingram is shown
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: well on the outside, but he's also somebody who can
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: work in the slot and he's a good run defender
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: and blitzer and physical dude. So I want to see
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: what JaMarcus Ingram does. A couple of the other guys
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: in the slot competition, you know, Daikwon Hardy, who we
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: talked about a little bit already. I've liked how he's
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: shown out. I like what I saw when I went
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: back to the tape to Corey Couch is somebody who
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I like, UDFA out of Miami. He played under a
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: die at Miami these past couple of seasons, so you
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: know he's comfortable with that coverage scheme and system and
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: what's asked of him. But he fits what the bill's like.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: At slot, he's a he's violent, he fit. He plays
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the run. He will get physical and jam anyone ahead
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: of him. It doesn't matter if it's a little slot,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: you know, jitterbug type of receiver, or if it's a
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: tight end. He'll get attached, he'll get into the box,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: he'll tackle, he'll blitz. Good Man coverage type of dude,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: physical kind of guy. I want to see how he plays.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: And then the safeties, Yeah, how does how does this
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: all shake out? You know, Bishop is out, Mike Edwards
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: is going to be out. Do we get to see
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: rap and hambling? Because they've been all right, but they
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: haven't looked great. There's been a lot of gaps in
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: coverage so far in camp that I've seen a lot.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: And then even within that after them, what do we
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: get in this game? You know how much Kareem Jackson
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: do we see? How does he look? Is it? D
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Delaney and Kendall Williamson and Terrell Burgess, like what does
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: the safety room look like? Because safety has so many
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: questions versus years past, like you mentioned, like for years
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: it's just been like hide and ployer Vincent, repeat, repeat,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: That's exactly it set it and forget it. And do
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: you know what infomercial that's from. I don't it's from
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's known from that, but
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I remember it was from this thing Ronco. It was
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: this guy who sold like microwave oven type things but
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: could cook like anything out of him, and so his
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: thing would, like the infomercial would be he was in
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: like one of those live studios and he'd put like
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: a chicken in it, and he'd be like, and what
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: do we do, folks? We said it? And then he'd
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: turn in the crowd to be like.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: And forget it. Oh, no, I know it for fantasy football,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: that's all wild.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I figured that all the tay. It was this infomercial
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: that will be on like late at night, and I
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: would just be watching it at like one thirty in
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: the morning, like during summer vacation, because I was up. Yeah,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: like yes, now, I'm.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Wondering if like Matthew Berry took that.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I would imagine like because that was like some two thousands,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was nineties, it was later than that. Yeah,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: like said it, and then the whole crowd would be
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: like yeah and forget it. And then he would like
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: take the chicken out and the chicken was like.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: That's electric though, yeah, probably literally electric.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I would say literally, yeah it was. It was electric,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: well done. So yeah, like there's just so many questions
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: at the safety spot. And then I want to see who,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: you know, because Edwards was banged up in the offseason.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Now he's banged up. Now how long is Bishop out for?
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: There's a chance that we need the Bills need somebody
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: to be safety three or be safety four. Like right
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: now we're even going into week one or week two,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: and even if they don't, can someone emerge that makes
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: them think, you know what, we don't need Mike Edwards.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Lets you know, Kenda Williamson's the guy. We're gonna have
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: him be the or Kareem Jackson's been really solid. We'll
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: go with Kareem Jackson. Or we can keep you know, Bishop,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: you know, on the men and let him take as
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: much time because we're confident in these other two guys,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: or maybe somebody supplants to mar Hamlin. I don't know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: like there's just opportunity at that safety spot. I think
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of opportunity in the dB room in general,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: right or Kyrie Elam kind of staking his claim as
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: next up and saying, you know what, Rasoul Douglas can
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: be a UFA next year. You don't need to bring
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: him back. Be me and Christian Ben for ye him.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, him doing well doesn't have to mean a lot
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: for twenty twenty four. Exactly about being a contributor and
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: then what it means for twenty twenty.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Four, all that it means, all that it can mean.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: And this is really nice, like is hey, I'm a
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: solid CB three. I'm ready to go right now if
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: you need me, but you don't, so I'm in the
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: stable and I'm ready to run next year when Douglas
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: is a UFA and you don't need him anymore. Cool,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: But there's opportunity for him to be a little bit more,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: to shine a little bit. There's opportunity for Hardy, there's
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: opportunity for to Corey Couch. I always think, you know,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: cam Lewis is a dude who always comes to mind
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: jack of all trades, like how much run does he
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: get a safety and especially if Hardy or to Corey
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Couch can emerge as the nickel back up to Tarreon Johnson,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: do they feel more comfortable putting Cam Lewis as more
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: like full time safety and have him be Safety three
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: or safety four? Like how does that change the math
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: with who they keep and how?
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, JaMarcus Ingram being able to play inside
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: and outside already shown a little bit inside outside like
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: we talked about, I feel like there's after your starters
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: of tearing on the inside and then Benford and Douglas
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: on the outside. I really think everything else for the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: corners is up for grabs to a degree, even though
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Elim is kind of penciled in at the three, but
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: he's got an opportunity like we talked about, and the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: safeties I think have a lot of movement and shaking
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: to do as well. So I really think like my
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: eyes are just glued to the DB's and it's something
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: that yeah, really I'm gonna have to wait for the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: All twenty two on Sunday, yeah, to like go and
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: comb through. But it's even something we can see, like
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: if yeah.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: I don't play on the football like you, ald least
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: get to know Hey, he had good enough coverage to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: be in position to make that way.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Like or I'm thinking back to Kyer's rookie year when
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: the Bills played the Steelers, and I remember you and
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I were talking about it, like after the game happened,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: like the Steelers just kept going after Elam going after
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Eli that first half. It was like five straight completions
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: because he was so far off in bail and they
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: just kept going at him. Guys were getting into his
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: blind spot and they just kept attacking him, attacking obvious broadcast. Yes,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: So do we see something like that? Are we seeing
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: one of the safeties flying down and making really good
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: run fits or tackles or blitz in or yeah, plays
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: on the ball, Like what can we glean from that?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: You get the next layer?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think there's a lot of moving and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: shaking to be done with the dB room as a whole,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Like after the top three, like I think remove Benford,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Douglas and Tarn their backups and their backups, backups, and
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I think the safety grouping as a whole has a
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: lot of movement and shaken to do. And I think
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: every preseason game is gonna matter a lot for that.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: For sure, I can't. I can't agree more with that. Obviously,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: it was one of my three.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. I like this from Nikki,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: you said rotisserie chicken commercial. I remember those. There'd be
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: like thirty of them all cooking chicken. Yeah, everybody's trying
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: to find the best way.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Because all you have to do is set it and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: forget it.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: That's right, bro, you got to go after this. It
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: was literally and Co and he was just doing a
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: button down shirt and a on co apron and he'd
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: have some lady up there with them, and he'd be
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: cooking chicken. I also like this from Lauren saying that
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Tarran is stepping into a leadership role this year. I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: think him, him, Bernard and Milana were like the leaders
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: of that defense from a blending the front and the back.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: And then Douglas is a voice and matters a lot.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Taylor Rapp communicates a lot and is a voice. But yeah,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I think Terren's gonna be a huge reason.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Question from ron Ron says, ant, who do you think
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: will be the fifth and six corners this year? Is
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: cam the fifth? Who's the sixth? Kendall? This is I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: mean kind of some of what we talked about a
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: little bit. I'm I'm torn right now. Like I think,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: you know, if we're looking at the top three, so Benford,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Douglas Tarran, I think Elam is one. I think JaMarcus
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Ingram is fifth. I think Cam Lewis factors in there.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: And then I think, like Daikwon Hardy or to Corey
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Couch has an opportunity. But again, depending on what happens
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: with the safeties, maybe Cam is a safety and they
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: keep another corner and maybe they keep Couch and Hardy
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: or you know, I lovely or something like that. Like
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot again, a lot of movement
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: and shaken to happen.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta imagine, like I think a lot of
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: this really rides on Daikwon Hardy, to be honest, because
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: there's it seems like there's only two spots up for
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: grabs and you'd like to keep your draft pick like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: the Bills. I should really double check this, but they've
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: lost the dB to Waivers, like a late round D
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: beat a Waivers.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Now, I would say, I remember Nick McLeod a couple
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: of years ago, and then they go, yes, who started
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: for Washington.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Down which doesn't say much though. Washington has been a
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: notoriously bad secondary.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: But sorry, we're going down the You got to watch
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: all these infomercials. Laura came through and said the Mexican
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: cornballer over the Ronco on arrested development No, no, no
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: arrested developments. Thing is because of the real Mexicans form.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, good call, good call. Oh, just the
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: typical users. I remember the ShamWow commercials.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Yep, oh yeah, that's my era.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I'm all over that sham Wow was a bit sham wow.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: And Billy May is doing all the slap chop. Oh,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I remember the slap chop. I remember the slap chop.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Billy Mays was a big one. All the oxy clean
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: stuff and then the the flex did I think he
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: started to do flex spray too before he passed away,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: where like he was spraying all this stuff on a
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: boat and then yeah named flex Seal. Yeah, man, we
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: should just do an episode on a breakdown film. Yeah
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: old old uh yeah, that's a good one. But yeah,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I think DV is a big one obviously, what do you,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I know you were looking up stuff for dv's Where
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: are you going to finish this up?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I was no. I was trying to find their drafts
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: and see how many late round DB's have been snapped
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: off their waivers.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Wild Goose, McLeod.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: They don't have Alex Austen anymore.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: He's no oh good one. He got snagged by the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Pats and actually he actually played well.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: He did, And then they kept Ben for the year
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: before lost Wild Goose the year before that kept Dame
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Jackson a missing one Wild.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Goose any safe no no safeties.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: No safeties might have been a udfa CB that we
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: were thinking of.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I think those are the ones.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was McLoud. It was McLoud.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: That's why he got grabbed by and then like he
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: got grabbed by the Bengals.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: But then also I think like Giants too.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he went to the Bengals, then they released him,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: the Bills brought him back and the Giants took him again.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: I think because it was like there was Joe Shane.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that connection never die. Anything else on DB's or
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: do you want to go to your third point?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Nah, I I will go to my third point. I
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: feel like we've exhausted DB's. It's a good one though,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely excited for the old twenty two. Next one
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: is kind of tied to Terrell Bernard in a way,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: but it's about Dorian Williams and it's about year two
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: for three. Yeah, really Dorian Williams year two for a
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: third round linebacker because we saw the ascension of Terrell
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Bernard last year and I know you you've notified me
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: that apparently he's crowned as you know, the next All
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Pro linebacker.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: And people are mad at his Madden rating rating, like
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: a seventy four.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's wild. He should probably be like high
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: seventies ish, Like he's.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Here's what it is. He's a seventy four, and I
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: think Tyrel Dodson's a seventy nine.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's a little nuts.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wild, it's wild. But people but people, yeah, are
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: are really high on him. For again, he had a
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: good year.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: But no, he was great, like he's let's not. Yeah,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: but like we'll put it in really easy terms for
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: all you Madden players. He's not an eighty five, Like
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: he's just not an eighty five yet, like he has
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: to do more. It's not to say that he he isn't.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: It's to say from an outside perspective, he owes more
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: to the football community in terms of body of work
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: to prove that he's worth alive. He very well could
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: be a ninety five, but he needs to prove it
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: with a body.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Of wars, especially with like you've got some really really
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: good off ball linebackers in football, like Fred Warner is
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: a monster, Roquan Smith is a monster, Matt Mulatto like,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: like you've got some. And I think I think he's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: trending towards being in a really good conversation way. But
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are putting him in
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: the ro Quan conversation already, and I just don't think
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: like it's there. And then you have things like mad
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: and to kind of make it worse, and so that's bad.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Will I will definitely horrible.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: But it just makes people fight for him more so.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: The people who were already high on him are now
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: more high on him because they feel offended and like
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: he's being attacked. Yeah, so it's just this, Yeah, it's
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: exactly right, and they want everyone to oh yeah. Lauren
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: comes in and says, whispers, I like the disrespect. Let
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: it feel I like that. Yeah, it's kind of I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: feel like the I feel like anytime someone gets disrespected.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Sean McDermott is like the current with the hood. Yeah, No,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's the opposite. It's him with like the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Kermit with the hood, like looking like good or like
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Palpatine and Star Wars just being like good, like he's
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: just happy.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Anyways, I don't know how we got on that to
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Bernard Williams his jumping year, his his jumping too.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking about that last year last year, at
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: this time last year, at this time real quick, like
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: everybody was like, who's going to start at linebacker? Is
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: it DoD Centers or Bernard? And a lot of people
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: are like, doesn't matter either way. It sucks.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so very for this year for relative to Dorian Williams,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: it's spinning it forward. It's definitely not the same question
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: because now it's about like just filling out the depth. Yes,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: And I think last year we saw how scary bad
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: depth at a position can be at corner and linebacker,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: like it can get scary. So I'm very curious what
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: kind of next step Dorian Williams takes. And then on
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: top of that, just like holistically the depth linebacker, like
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: we lost Torel Dodson like he was a good depth linebacker,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm just curious what it's gonna look like
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: behind him with drafting Ulafotio and picking up Nicholas Morrow,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: who I know Eagles fans did not like, and then
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: getting Deon Jones, who was an absolute stud early in
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: his career and now he's just kind of trying to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: get on the redemption arc. So it's it's an interesting
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: group that does need some established depth, and I think
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: we all felt that as a fan base, like, you
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: need that depth at the linebacker position because his defense
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: relies heavily on its linebackers, and if you don't have
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: one that can perform all the tasks, teams will exploit
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: the structure of this defense. I think the spine just
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: has to be strong, yes, And.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: I'm with you of or with the idea of, you know,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: kind of the importance of depth of the linebacker spot
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: because of you know, again pulling off a J. Klein
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: from the cruise or wherever he was going on a
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: vacation with his family and next thing you know, he's there,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: like starting a playoff game. Dorian Williams has been the
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: linebacker three with Bernard and Milano when they've gone heavier
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: versus like bigger se barign camps. So he's been that guy.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: He was also with the ones with Bernard during the
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: scrimmage because Molino didn't play in the scrimmage, and he
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: looked good. He looked much better than he was last year.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: The specific verbiage I used when I was talking about
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: the scrimmage was his eyes are starting to catch up
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: to his feet, like his processing, that ability is starting
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: to catch.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: His feet were always there like this guy, Like I
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: don't want to say he reads and reacts like the
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: best of them, but boy does he react with the
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: best of them. Like his reactive athleticism is very evident
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: on film, Like he he really twitches to the ball
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: carrier and goes like full fire towards them. He is
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: a very athletic, functionally athletic player. And yeah, picking up
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: the processing to read and react will be huge for him.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: That's that's awesome that he's getting that next step.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, and sometimes people would use that against him, yeah, exactly.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Bit yeah, and kind of manipulate him and take advantage
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: of that free flowing but like lack of processing piece
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, but he's looked good, and you know
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get a ton of burn, Like Mlonald's not
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: gonna play a time. Maybe Bernard plays like a Snaper two,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: but I feel like Snapper two series or two. But
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like you're gonna see a lot of Dorian
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Williams inspector and Dion Jones and Morrow and ul Focio
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: and those kind of guys. But I like what Dorian
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: has done, and I do think it's important to have
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: a solid linebacker three then hopefully can kind of match
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: the athleticism of Bernard and Milano. And that's what der
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: is like. If Dorrian Williams can be the prince that
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: was promised you have. Oh, I gotta stop because we
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: got super chat. Oh appreciate you being here, like oh,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: like a boss, good name, thank you for being here,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: and thank you for the super chat, like a boss,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: says hot take. If we can't get past the Chiefs
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, is this McDermott's last season? Also, what
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: wide receivers make this team?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: So we got two part question, Kendall, Let's start with
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: this first part. If the Bills can't get past the
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Chiefs and the playoffs, do you think this is Sean
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: mcdermot's last season.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: I think it depends on if the Chiefs then win
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, because if they win the super Bowl, the
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: impact is last because you lost him.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like what are you to do? Like, what are
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: you to do about this? Like it's sorry that you
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: decided to get your head coaching career started when Patrick
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Mahomes entered the league. You know, like you can't do
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: much about that. Like at a certain point, you just
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: have to accept what it is and hope you get
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: lucky and you you beat them two out of the eight.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Like the Bills are great against the Chiefs in the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: regular season, it's just not good in the playoffs. Like
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: it's not like the Bills can't beat the Chiefs. I
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: don't think the I don't think it's about if they
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: lose to the Chiefs. I think it's about how they
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: lose and what are the circumstances more than it being
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: that binary.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: It's so tough because and I don't necessarily think there's
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: like a right answer, but the whole idea of like
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: when do you cut bait with a coach that like
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: can't win the big one? Because like there's something to
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: be said for a guy who always has you win
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: the dance. Yeah, but the goal isn't to get to
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: the dance. The goal is to like win the dance.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: So like whndy like I mean, ironically, it's very similar
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: to the Andy Reid conversation in Philly, like and fans
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: were dancing out of celebration when Andy Reid got fired,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Like the Eagles literally waited for him to have one
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: down year and then clipped him. And then even with
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Kansas City his first several years they were in the playoffs,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Chiefs fans wanted him out. They were like, all we
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: got is bum Andy Reid, who can't win the big one,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: YadA YadA, And all of a sudden, you know, Mahomes
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: and Kelsey and Spags come out over the narrative. Can
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: f the narrative can flip in an instant. I'm always torn,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think, but you know, just.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: The in fact, the fact that the narrative can flip
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: that quickly is why I want the guy that can
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: get you to the dance, Because you can't win the
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: dance without getting to the dance.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, And that's the whole conversation point, right, so I'm
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: always torn on that like conversation piece for people in
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: all while understanding of it, but for me, no, I
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: don't think it's you know, mcdermom's last season and if
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: he can't get past the Chiefs. Also, it depends on
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: where it happens, right, Like, yeah, if they go to
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: the AFC Championship and lose to the Chiefs, I'm probably
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: not getting rid of Sean McDermott. Like it would take
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: a lot for me to get rid of Sean McDermot
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: because I think he's a good coach and I think
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: he consistently has you in good places again even and
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to find the silver lining or be
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: that guy. But like, look at that game last year
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: with what they had on defense, no Benford, Rasoulle Douglas
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: on one leg who they had at linebacker, Daequan was
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: playing but he wasn't healthy.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Well, they played a competitive football game and they made
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: it work. Like, yeah, they were inefficient on defense, like
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs were what like seven eight yards per play
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: or something like it. Yeah, they really just turned it on.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: It's really efficient game. But the Bills are still competitive
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: in the game. Like the Bills found a way to
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: stay within one score and keep it.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Who knows, who knows what happens if Allen completes that
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: second down throw to Shakir with like three minutes left
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: and it's a touchdown, or who knows what happens if
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Tyler Bass makes the field goal, maybe like the Bills
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: get the stop, or Mahomes fumbles the snap and turns
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: it over, like you never know what the hell can happen,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: and the narrative is completely different. Then then you gotta
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: go to Baltimore and beat Baltimore, which is another task
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: in it of itself. But yeah, I don't think if
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: there's so much context that has to happen for him
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: to get bounced. But yeah, I don't think if they
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: don't get past the Chiefs, I don't think it's his
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: last season. What do you think about this one? I'll
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: go first at you went first first? Yeah, what wide
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: receivers make this team? I'm going right now, and again
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: it's early. I'm going with and not necessarily an order.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going with Hollands keon Samuel Shakir MVS. And I'm
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: gonna say kJ Hamler. So, but I think there's a
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: chance that only five could make it. I think they
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: could maybe go with five, but I'm gonna say six,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say Handler's the sixth.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I always kind of assume it's going to be six.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: That thinks I'm good with locking in your top four.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: The way everyone's talking about Mac Collins, it just it
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: feels like that's a lock.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: So well, he ga that Gabe Davis role as a blocker,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: but that role has even more value if they go
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: with condensed formations and reduce if he becomes a legitimate
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: factor on top of that, just like.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: The the person he is, like the galvanizing, like yes,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: type of character he is in the locker room like
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: it just sounds like he's vibing very well with everyone,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: so it seems like he's a lock. But yeah, i'd
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: go keyon Kurtis, Samuel Khalil Shaker, Matt Collins. Yeah, the
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: fourth or the fifth and sixth, dude, that's tough. There's
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of guys.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: How have.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Chase Claypool and Andy Isabella been.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Claypool has been hurt, right, it has missed a bunch.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Isabella's kind of been a non factor and then he
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: got banged up a couple of days ago, so nothing
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: really notable from either of them. It would be between
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: like four through six, and I'm sorry, five and six
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: right now to me is between MVS. Hamdler and Shavers,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: with MVS and Shavers probably having the lead track right now.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: But I just think after preseason and the speed, I
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: just like with how the rest of that group looks
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: looks on paper. kJ Hamler's speed, Yeah.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: It rounds out the Yeah, it rounds up the group. Well,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: you don't want to have too many redundanc.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: He's also gives you some like depending and maybe Hardy
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: gets banged up. You know, you got Hamdler in the
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: back of mind, and it's it's been Hamdler. It's been Hammler, Hardy,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: and I forget who the third has been. I don't
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: know early on, but not when they started going when
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: they cut it down to like three, I don't remember
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: who the third was. It was it Isabella, I don't remember,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: but Hamdler and Hardy have been the main two.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like, with the new kickoff rules, you want
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: to running back as a returner.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: I agree with that notion.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: I don't We'll see how it actually plays out. And
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: no one really knows how it's going to play out,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: justin shorter, but what's what's what's going on?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Uneventful and then he I think he's hurt right now, tough,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: but he like Tyrol Shavers is, Yeah, he kind of
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: supplanted him as shorter than afterthought playing.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that sucks. That's annoying.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Sucks for those truthers.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: I was I just wasn't thrilled with that pick, and
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: I was just hoping to be wrong. You know, sometimes
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: I just really want to be wrong.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like that. I would like that.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly couldn't give you a five into six.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen as much camp, Like I need this game.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: This game is what's going to tell me?
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: This game?
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: No, seriously, like this is the whole point of preseason,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Like I couldn't tell you like it kind of means
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: nothing at this point we haven't played a preseason game.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: But based on this point, I think the locks were
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: what we said, those top four guys between Mac collins
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: Keyon Coleman, Curtis Samuel, and Khalil Saker. I think those
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: are the four locks, and we got to figure out
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: the rest if a six guy even deserves to make roster,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: you know, like that six wide receiver might not be
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: competing with a wide receiver.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: True, I came into this, like into camp thinking the
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: top five were locks. And I know MBS hasn't been great,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: but I also feel like he's been better than people
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: have given him credit for four. And again, it's gonna
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: be wide receiver five, like and I so I'm.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Just contract as peanuts anyways.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I'm kind of just sticking with that.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if anybody's shown enough. Like granted
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: you can say, like, oh, what is wide receiver five?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: YadA YadA, who cares? And like Tyrol Shavers can play teams,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: NBS doesn't really play teams YadA YadA. But yeah, yeah,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a fun time. But that's also
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: another position grouping to keep an eye on, too, Like
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver, Like does Tyrol Shavers come out of
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: this game with like nine catches for one hundred and
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: ten yards and then everybody's like, oh, there's your wide
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: receiver five? Like does handler set the world on fire?
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Does MBS look legit? Like who kind of steps up
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: from wide receiver? That's another one to kind of talk
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: about as well. Oh, Lauren asked, do you think Davidson
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: is tight end three or is it still Morris. I
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: really like Zach Davidson. I still think Morris is tight
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: end three, especially with what he offers as a blocker
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: and just the known quantity that he is. But that's
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: another fun one. I'm interested to see how tight end
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: shakes out with Davidson at Morris. That's a good one.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: And yet Ron said, is david said, is having a
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: good cape cap camp. He absolutely is. Oh, it took
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: me an hour, nineteen minutes to flub my first word.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of front of myself.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: And that's it's pretty good. Pretty looking at the contracts now,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: actually all this scantling seems like more of a lock. Yeah.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: And also they like gave him void years for like
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: four years. The next four years, I think each year
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: with like two hundred and fifty million or two hundred
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: fifty million, two hundred and fifty thousand, I think each
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: year it's twenty.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Five Yeah, after the next four years after this.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like thing to do for one year deal.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Kind of feels like he might just be on the
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: roster already.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: That's my kind of thought a little or.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: At least the Goula is gonna be like, hey, my money.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Especially with how Brady spoke about him, and not that
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: that necessarily means anything, but yeah, I kind of think
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: he's more of a lock than he's getting credit for.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: I think he would really it would have to be
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: a combination of he just bottoms out and other mul
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: multiple other dudes have to ball out. Yeah, like it's
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: got to be a bit.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: If it's close, like it's it's he's getting the tiebreaker.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, But yeah, that's a spot to watch because Google Bucks. Yeah,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: that's it. That's a position to watch it. And yeah,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of going back to I don't know how
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: we even got here. Oh no, because the question that
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: was asked. Yeah, I I just want to see ow
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Dorian continues on his trajectory, and similar to the Corner conversation,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: I just don't think Terrel Bernard and Matt Malona are
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: going to play all your snaps for you, like somebody's
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: gonna get banged up for a half or a game
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: or a couple like it's it's just bound to happen.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: So I would like to know that I think that
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: way then to be naive.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Absolutely like and I'm a big fan of contingency plans
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: and having those, and it would be nice if Dorian
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Williams was that contingency plan at linebacker. I'm okay if
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: it's Nicholas Morrow, or if it's Dion Jones, or you know,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: if it's Spectra, although I don't think it really would be.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: I'm okay going with a known quantity that and Jones
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: has looked good at times in camp, and you know,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Moro I think has a good track record for what
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: he did last year, again for a deaf guy in
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: of that. But I ideally it's Dorian considering the cost
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: effectiveness and the contract and the turn that you have
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: for the next several years, and just again his athletic
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: profile on how it plays in this defense and what
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: he allows you to do. So I'm I'm interested to
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: watch him because I think his ascension is more important
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: than it's getting credit for. But also because I think
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: he's gonna play a f ton of snaps because Malonald's
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: not playing, and Bernard will play a little bit but
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: probably not a ton. So Dorian's gonna get burned this
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: last time, this last one for me was kind of
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: just individual players. I'm watching, so Dorian was there. Ray Davis,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: who he talked about earlier, is a big one for me,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: just again kind of similar to to Dorian. I think
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get a ton of burn because Cook's not
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: gonna see a ton of time. Ty Johnson probably won't
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: see a ton of time. I think this is gonna
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: be a heavy Ray Davis baby Gore kind of game
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: and Darrynton Evans like, which is a nice speed dynamics
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: is fun, so I think they'll get a lot of
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: the snaps, but Davis will get a bunch. I love
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: this tape at Kentucky. I think he's shown very well
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: in camp and in the scrimming. I know he's had
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: the fumbles which have not been ideal, but the vision,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: the clean feet, the receiving ability coming out of the backfield.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: He's running seams, he's running rail routes, he's running option routes.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: He's winning an individual, he's winning a team.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Seeing what he's done has been a real treat, and
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: I know he's going to get a lot of run
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: and I think he's somebody who could have a bigger
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: impact with the starting unit. This year than was initially
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: thought for people when he was drafted, especially because again
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: I expect the run game to matter a lot for
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: this offense, and his skill set pairing with that ability
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: to be condensed or spread at any given moment and
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: do any given thing and be a little more of
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: a hammer than James Cook pairs well with James Cook
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: and the identity of the offense going forward. Yeah, He's
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: one that I really have my eye on again because
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get the volume and I think
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: he's a little more important than he gets credit for.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: And then we talked about it a bit already, but
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: that receiver position, I just want to see how it
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: kind of out. How much do we see from kind
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: of the top end guys at the depth chart, how
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: much keyon Coleman do we see, how much Mac Collins
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: do we see? How much mvs? Do we see how
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: much Shakir And then those other guys like does Shavers
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: ball out, just Handler ball out? What do we get
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: from everybody else is trying to kind of make or
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: stake their claim to making this team and getting a
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: roster spot. Yeah, I'm very interested to see kind of
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: how that shakes out. There and we talked about it.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: But yeah, really from an individual perspective, I really want
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: to see Dorian. I really want to see Ray Davis.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: And again, a lot of this too goes back to
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: the thing we talked about in the beginning, right, It's
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: you're looking for positions and players that you think matter
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: for this season and or the future, but also knowing
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: who it is that we think will get a lot
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: of the snaps. And I think Davis and Dorian Williams
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: are both dudes that are going to see a ton
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: of burn in this game.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that the running backs is that's entertaining
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Between Ray Davis, Frank Or Junior, and Darrington Evans, That'll
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: be not a boring thing every time the Bills get
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: on offense, like there's something because there's usually a lot
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: of running football in the preseason. So it's that's exciting
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: that those are the three guys that are beginning.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: And even if there's not cool like how is Ray
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: Davis holding up in past pro because like how is
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Baby Gore handling that? Like what do we see from
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: the spread game? Or like do we get any running
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: back screens or like Brady's you know, design stuff for
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: running backs. How much of that do we see here?
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: And like how good is Davis looking there? Or who elpse,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Like there's those little inklings to what we'll see come
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: regular season time too. I think factors under the running backs.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I love that. That's a good one. Yeah,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: There's there's so many. I had like a whole bunch
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: of like I listed like ten in my notes and
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: then like the three on why it's so hard. I
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: don't know why I do these episodes.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: It's I'm almost like one of the preseason there's there's
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: everything's on the table at this point, Like there's zero
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: answers other than what you've seen in a training camp.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: But it kind of means nothing because I mean, let's
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: be honest, as much as it's part of the body
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: of work, like the game reps are, that's where the
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: most weight is going for the evaluators.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think with a Bears team that had
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: their first game be the Hall of Fame game, didn't
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: really play the quote unquote starters. Now you're looking to
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: get more Kaylea Moro Dunz more, you know of kind
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: of their starting line, maybe some of their starting defenders,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: you know, how much do we see and how much
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: can they work against you know, the Briskers of the
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: world and Kyler Gordon and you know Jalen Johnson and
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Tyrek Stevenson. I don't know how much like they'll play
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: in that, but you will probably get a couple of series.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, you're really leaning into like, Okay, these
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: third team dudes who are trying to make it to
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: the second team, the guys who are on the bubble
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: trying to make it to the third team to get
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: to the second team, and then the second team dudes
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: that could potentially pop into the first team and have
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: that impact. And yeah, I think this is a again
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: we talked about it. I think we're gonna geek out
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: for the preseason no matter what and find ways to
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: get excited. But I really do think this one has
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: legitimate Like, even if you're just as like a casual
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Bills fan, I think you should watch the entirety of
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, like the fourth quarter will still matter
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: for this ross roster.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you might feel the players that are playing this
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: preseason later into games in this preseason than you have
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: in the last five years.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think even again, going to like, guys,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: you're still going to see in the second quarter of
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: this first game, I think will matter in twenty twenty four.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a great point and it.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Just I think it just it again. It makes it
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: feel little. I like Laura's common here. She says, I
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: can't wait for this weekend.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: I like that question. Did realize it was this weekend
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: until like literally two days ago. I was like, oh my.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: God, I've been horrible. I didn't realize the Hall of
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: I knew it was the week after the Hall of
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Fame game, but I didn't realize the Hall of Fame
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: game was last Thursday until it was like it was
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: like Thursday at like five thirty, and one of my
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: boys texted me was like, yo, I think it sucks
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: that Caleb's not playing tonight. And I was like, huh
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: Caleb who? And he was like Caleb Williams for the Bears.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, the Hall of Fame game
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: and he was like yeah, like you dumb. And I
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: was like, all right, you're mean that's really I forgot. Yeah,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: so yeah that's rue. Why are we frugs? But yeah,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: that was that that that popped me. And then I
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: realized from there. I like this comment for the question
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: from Ron Ron saying who's the green dot? When Bernard
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: is in the question? I would think it's Milano.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: I is he asking you should ask him to clarify it?
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: Is he saying like when the starters aren't out there,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: only Bernard here's a question, right, because it would be Malon.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: I read this question is like, say Bernard is out
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: of the game, and it's like Milano and Dorian are
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: your two linebackers? Yeah, who has the green dot? I
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: would think it's Milano.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Definitely be Milano. But yeah, like if the first like
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: in the preseason, when we see two linebackers that aren't
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Bernard or Milano, Like, who's gonna be?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: Like if it's like if say it's Dorian Inspector? Right, Oh,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: good question, Like I I know, I know. Oh so
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Ronson clarifying because he's going your round when the starters
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: aren't in there. Oh. I would think Moro would have
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: a dot, Jones would have a dot.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: I would definitely think Jones has a dot.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe spect over Dorian. It depends how Dorian has progressed
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: with this mental stuff. I would think Spector because he's
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: been in the system more.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: I also think it's Spector of like the people who
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: were probably projecting to be the second stringers.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the second string linebackers have been Spector and Dorian. Yeah,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: I would think Inspector. It's probably Specter, and just based
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: off of what I recall in camp, I think Specter
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: has been leading the huddle.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: I think there's an answer, folks insider Anthony Prohaska, that's me,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: good old battle on Spector. I like that.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: What else, anything else, any thoughts, philosophies, maxims, anything you got?
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Definitely nothing, Definitely nothing. Honestly, I haven't said I feel
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: like we've covered the gambit on this one. Like there's
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: so much going on with this roster turnover. I mean
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: the high level just things with Joe Brady. It's exciting
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: to kind of see the first inklings of that, and
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: then down to just all the player turnover on this roster.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: We we really went through it from just about all
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: the positions other than like nitty gritty on the offensive
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: line and nitty gritty on the defensive line. Like that,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: there's there's battles all over this roster and yeah, I
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: think the main takeaway, I honestly I think the theme
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: for this entire show is what you said is, Yeah,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: the guys that are going to be playing in the
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: second half of these preseason games might actually matter in
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: the regular season this year. So I just stay tuned,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: like I keep watching this preseason because yeah, it does
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: feel like these players are going to matter to this
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: football team quite a bit.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of good Like, you know, pay
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: attention to this guy because next season, the season season
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: after you got he out of future type stuff, but
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: even yeah, just for this year, Like there's there's a
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: legit shot that Daiquon Hardy is like your backup nickel
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: to Taron Johnson.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we just don't know.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or he ends up playing a little bit more.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: And Yeah, I'm I'm excited for this game. I mean, again,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: it's football, so I'm gonna be excited to kind of
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: regard it, right, Yeah, I feel like there is.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: There's more movement and shaken to be done in this
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: year than previous year. It's gonna throw up some love
• 1:32:13
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• 1:32:15
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• 1:32:17
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• 1:32:20
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• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: New York. And I don't say that because they sponsor
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  Speaker 1: the show. They sponsor the show because I think they
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  Speaker 1: are the best pizza, sweet sauce, cupp of sharp pepperoni,
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  Speaker 1: gray cheese sauce ratio. They make their own blue cheese.
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  Speaker 1: They also do like catering and other foods like I
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  Speaker 1: talked about. I had them cater a party that my
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  Speaker 1: wife and I did and we got a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: their mac and cheese is like the regular one was good,
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  Speaker 1: but then they also did like a pulled pork mac
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  Speaker 1: and cheese and like a Buffalo chicken mac and cheese. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it slapped. It was wild good. They do sandwiches and
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff they like. They really do
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  Speaker 1: good stuff over there at One Pie Again. Online menu
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  Speaker 1: can be found in the episode show notes here, on
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  Speaker 1: YouTube or whichever podcasting Apple platform listening to this show on.
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  Speaker 1: They also do a lot for the community every year
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  Speaker 1: Alzheimer's Foundation, partnering with Roswell Toys for Tots the SBCA.
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  Speaker 1: They're really good people making really good food, So go
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  Speaker 1: get yourselves on one pie pizza. Especially now, if like
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  Speaker 1: you're coming into Buffalo for food or not food for
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  Speaker 1: like Bills games, pre season, regular season, whatever, stop by
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  Speaker 1: one pie pizza. Get yourself some one pi pizza. What
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  Speaker 1: other comments Laurence says, are those toddler railings on the bed, Kenda,
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  Speaker 1: what's happening there? I like that.
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  Speaker 2: So this is the office. This is the office space,
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  Speaker 2: and we it's also a guest room, which means that
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  Speaker 2: this is a daybed, so it's being used as a
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  Speaker 2: daybed until a guest actually comes to visit us and
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  Speaker 2: then it turns into an actual bed.
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  Speaker 1: That was my thought. I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I also like that printer over there. What I think
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  Speaker 1: is in the back that printer? Is that a printer?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's a printer.
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  Speaker 1: That printer looks legit Like that printer looks like it's
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  Speaker 1: a transformer. Yeah, bro, that looks like it transforms into
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  Speaker 1: like Optimus Prime.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, doing over there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a pan of like good quality home electronics and
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  Speaker 1: as a person who like works from home a bunch.
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  Speaker 2: And my wife I don't use it. My girlfriend she
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  Speaker 2: uses it all the time. But that that's why we
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  Speaker 2: have it. I mean, yeah, cooks.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. It looks like a microwave, so I
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  Speaker 1: imagine it cooks. Yeah. I peeped it as soon as
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  Speaker 1: I saw I we I joined late and we were
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: kind of getting our bearings. But the first thing I
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: noticed I was like, Yo, that printer is sick. Like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a fan of that.
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  Speaker 2: I like it a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I like it a lot. So yeah, go check out
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  Speaker 1: one pie. DM Kendall and see where you got that printer.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: So you get your printer, Kendall. Any parting words for
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: anyone is I thought the banger this is tootles. Folks
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: to start to wind down, sayah, goodbyes. Any parting words
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  Speaker 1: thoughts for this game, for this season, for a player
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: or anything and everything that is on your mind. And
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: if you don't have anything, feel free to say I
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: don't have anything, but whatever you got.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing in particular. Man. I'm just really excited to
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: kick off this preseason and didn't realize football was as
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: around the corner as it is. It's close. Super excited
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: that it's on NFL Network, otherwise I wouldn't be able
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: to watch it, which is very exciting that the Bills
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: are actually good enough to do that now all of
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: you other out of towners watch NFL Network to watch
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: the game. Yeah. Really excited for the season to start, man,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: and honestly thankful that you brought me back on here.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: And hopefully we can keep kind of having these little
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: touch points with the Bills as we go through the season. Man.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, we I think the schedule aligns a little
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: bit better for us now and set up and everything.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm hoping this will be the first of
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: many for this season. I feel like I've also so
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: many times I've been like, hey, Man, you available, like no,
• 1:35:41
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