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Hall of Fame Recap · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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  It all starts. Right now, welcome back to the
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  Three O Take presented by Seek Geek.
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  This is episode four 110. I'll be your host, Kyle Corn.
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  I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes and Nate.
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  You know they don't tell you when when you decide to
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  transition into baldness. They don't tell you about
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  certain things to look out for. You know, they just don't
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  mention it to you. They don't mention that if you
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  wear your hat backwards and you have this weird like snapback
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  poofy flap thing. No, there's more.
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  Focus on it, because there's no hair.
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  No, no, no, no there that you've got that going on because you
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  got a small noggin. I'm looking at the the snapback
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  strap and you're Are you full? Are you?
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  Are you you're? Full There's one more.
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  There's one more dot. Yeah, yeah, you.
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  Got that thing on there, nice and snug.
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  You got a small noggin. Man, this is I could go.
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  I could go the whole way if I wanted to.
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  That well, that's why it's all all your your slack is up here.
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  I was. I was big.
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  Melon like me. I was 7 and 1/4 with hair, so
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  yeah. So that makes sense.
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  Hell yeah. Yeah, you do.
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  That makes sense. Also if you're not watching on
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  YouTube. Figured out.
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  It's huge. Well, I'm glad you brought
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  YouTube up because I was thinking as you can see here,
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  rocking the ASU hat. It's such a clean hat too.
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  Oh, it's such a clean hat. The the vintage.
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  I was thinking a lot this week or this past week about the trip
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  to to Phoenix last year, the World Baseball Classic.
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  It was getting me in the mood for some baseball.
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  It's insane that it's almost been a year.
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  I know, dude. Insane.
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  I know. And so I was just, it was
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  getting me. It was getting me there.
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  It was getting me closer to being like, I hate to say this
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  as a Red Sox fan, but I'm I'm close to being full throttle
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  here with with baseball. I'm feeling it.
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  And I'll be honest, it wasn't really until probably this
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  episode because as as we very well know, the offseason can be
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  slow. But, but I'm getting there.
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  And it was a good it was a good reason for me to remind the
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  listeners if you haven't watched the vlog from the World Baseball
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  Classic trip. Honestly, go back to the vlog
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  from our Boston trip too. Yeah.
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  Watch all the vlogs I think I, I don't know the World Baseball
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  Classic I think is our best product that we've we've put
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  together that was. It's a great video, yeah.
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  That was a that was a heck of a week, yeah.
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  But yeah, we are coming up on a year since that trip and we are
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  now under a month until the first spring training came.
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  Absurd How? I don't know.
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  I don't know. I mean you to be fair, you've
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  been you've been a little out of the loop and for good reason.
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  I I don't think me, I don't think anybody can fault you for
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  for why you've been out of the loop, but.
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  If if anybody hears me say a name that is just out of the
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  blue, it doesn't make any sense, or I have something completely
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  wrong, I promise I still pay attention to baseball.
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  I'm getting married in a couple months and it's just been insane
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  planning this thing. It's been insane.
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  So I apologize for whatever Nate you get over the next few
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  months. It's not going to be full Nate.
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  Full die hard Yankee. Nate will not come until
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  probably May post honeymoon. Once I get back from the
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  honeymoon, my sea legs go away from the cruise.
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  I will be back at it. Then you will get the the true
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  fired up, passionate and somewhat half knowledgeable.
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  Nate. This Nate, he's a he's a wild
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  card for sure. Maybe half knowledgeable, but
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  always firing from the hip. There you go.
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  Like always bringing the juice, always bringing the passion.
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  That's that's what Nate. It's the only way I can fire.
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  That's the only way to That's the only way he rolls.
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  We got a voicemail, I believe. I don't always screen these
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  things, but I believe that it's Hall of Fame related.
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  So we're going to transition straight from this into some
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  Hall of Fame talk. But let's let's hope it works
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  here. Let's see what we got.
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  Hey fellas, AJ Torres, it's been a long time and thank you for
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  holding down this. It's been a really dreadful
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  offseason in my opinion, but that's for a topic, another
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  time. As far as the Hall of Fame goes,
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  I really and a buddy of mine and a fan of the show.
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  I know I'm face to face. We thought Joe Mauer was going
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  to get screwed when it came to Hall of Fame.
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  Sure enough, you only need the first year.
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  Which also granted means when Buster Posey's name comes up, oh
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  baby, he's in. Forget about it.
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  So about the Hall of Fame, I don't want to beat the dead
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  horse here, but yeah, do I think Andrew Jones is going to get
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  snubbed? I won't mention the thing of why
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  they want to cancel him and write him off at everything, but
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  as far as these guys, particularly since there was no
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  policies until 2004, I mean, freaking Andy Pettitte was using
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  something prescribed to a doctor that wasn't banned at the time.
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  And if we really want to go by where this all started, some
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  guys in the rumor mill. Now this could be some of the
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  old head Dodger fans I know in the Connecticut area, whatever.
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  But they say that Ted Williams brought greens over after the
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  war and that's where it all started.
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  So basically everyone between Teddy Ball game after World War
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  2 to 2004 was taking some sort of substance.
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  But I mean, if it's possible, I mean I want to put the pressure
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  because it's such a ludicrous topic.
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  Where do we draw the line as far as the steroid guys and you put
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  like Asterisk next to the name? Or how do you go about it?
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  Hope everybody's doing well and take it easy later.
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  The ultimate question we try to avoid Oh.
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  Man, Well, let's, let's dive into it, shall we?
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  Look, I had a. Let's start this by saying this
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  is our opinion. Take it however you will.
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  We're not in the freaking committee.
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  We don't vote. I wouldn't.
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  Want to be a part of that circus any.
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  Me neither. Yeah.
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  So continue. I had a rather I don't want to
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  say heated because it's my it's like my my Bible study leader.
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  Oh heated. That's cool.
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  I'm not Yeah. I mean it was like you know
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  we're we're we're just chatting it up about the Hall of Fame.
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  We're in disagreement on a on a handful of items.
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  We specifically were talking about Bonds and his career and
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  legacy and everything that that means.
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  But he I gotta say he got me thinking a little bit He he is
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  of the belief that these guys who used should be allowed to be
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  in all of. And I believe I'm I believe I'm
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  paraphrasing correctly here so forgive me if it if it's
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  incorrect but he is of the belief that these guys should
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  just be let in they should be inducted in the Hall of Fame and
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  that the story about them should be told how it's going to be
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  told. If if people want to view their
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  plaque as a tainted plaque, yeah so be it.
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  But it's the story of the game. It's the story of what happened.
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  Yeah. And he's of the belief that it
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  it does the sport a disservice when you don't have the home run
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  leader you don't have the hits leader so on and so forth in the
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  Hall of Fame. So he he got me thinking a
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  little bit in that regard because for the longest time
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  people have just rammed it down our throats being like well
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  Bonds deserves to be in for this reason or that reason not so
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  much about. I haven't heard as much about or
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  a case being made for the story being told of of the sport,
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  which I mean I can, I can understand and you know it.
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  Maybe if you take that route you, you open up an opportunity
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  for a greater conversation like a greater discourse about that
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  individual or that group of individuals who you know got got
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  dinged with the asterisk. I don't know.
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  I I'm kind of on the fence. You can't really to say to to
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  ask the question well where do you draw the line.
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  You can't. I mean just in the in the in the
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  question that was asked. You've got greenies.
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  You've got stairways. You've got known users.
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  You've got users that were misled.
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  You've got users who knew what they took but they thought it
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  was for something out like you know it's it's all over the
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  place. It's it's it's messy.
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  There's no way to keep it clean and tidy.
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  So I I'm certainly in no position to say, well draw the
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  line here because it's it's way beyond trying to draw a line I
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  think. Yeah, I mean, I I see both sides
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  and I see exactly what he was saying with just like it is the
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  story of baseball. And it's hard to completely
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  ignore not just an era, but huge names, game altering names,
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  sport altering names. It's hard to just sit there and
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  say like you don't exist in this place that's supposed to write
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  the story. It's it's our, it's our Museum
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  of baseball. I don't know how you go about
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  it. I don't know if you have a
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  separate ballot. I don't know what that's called.
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  Is it APED ballot? Is it a cheater ballot?
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  Is it a, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know what that is.
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  It a separate wing in the Hall of Fame.
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  Is it a honorary wing? Is it an honorable mention kind
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  of thing? I don't know.
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  I really don't know. I don't know how to go about it.
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  I think I can understand where people are coming from where
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  they do feel like Barry Bonds and Pete Rose and names like
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  this can't just be crossed off and and we pretend like they
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  never occurred because for all we know those players did have
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  positive effect. You know what I mean?
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  As much negative that we can attach, that we can sit here and
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  say like, well, maybe there was a kid that first started
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  watching ball and fell in love with the game because of Barry
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  Bonds or because of a Rod, because of Andy Pettitte, you
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  know what I mean? Like you, that's what that is.
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  And in my mind, I haven't been to the Hall of Fame.
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  I've never been. I love the idea of taking my
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  kids someday and saying, you know, I'm showing them, you
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  know, a six, 7-8 year old, the story of this game and why it it
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  is what it is. To not have those names there is
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  weird. I can't argue that.
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  I just don't know how it looks. But to sit there and say that
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  they deserve to be in the same conversation, I don't know.
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  I think it's probably best that we create a new conversation
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  instead of just having this one conversation.
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  That's where I'm at with it. Am I going to be upset if
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  there's a new wing or a new separate building created?
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  Do they deserve the ceremony? I don't know.
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  I don't know. I'm not sure.
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  Maybe it's just a a section where they're acknowledged and
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  their names are in there and their plaques are in there.
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  Maybe it's not a ceremony. I don't.
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  Know. But even then, that's messy
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  because you you're talking about known users versus people who
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  allegedly use them. People who never tested
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  positive, but you think they used like it's a whole?
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  It's tough, man. There's no.
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  Way you right. There's no way you can color
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  inside the lines if you will, on on any of these categories that
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  we're looking at between users. Non users allegedly like it's
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  it's just too too chaotic. But honestly, I with the the
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  announcement this past week and everything, this is usually the
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  time of the year where you know it.
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  It's it's this time and the the ceremony time in July that I I
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  really take some time to think about the hall and what it
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  represents. And I don't know man.
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  Sadly I and I really hate to say it cause I've been I've had the
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  the fortune of going there twice and I mean it's a magical place.
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  But I I truly and again sad to say I think I'm at a point now
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  where it's really starting to lose its luster because it's for
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  me it's which I never thought this would be the case.
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  But it's becoming less about the the saga surrounding the users
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  versus or whether or not they should be in or not or whatever.
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  And it's more about the committee and the biases and and
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  the conversations of intentionally leaving guys off
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  to make a political statement or to to stick it to a guy that
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  what that didn't treat the media well which is it.
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  It's becoming so much and I use word early, it's so much of A
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  circus that I just don't even have the same interest that I
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  used to anymore. And it's you'll look at it as
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  I'm not saying everybody but me I'm I'm getting to the point
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  where I'm looking at it as less of a as a an elite club or an
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  institution and more of just like a it's it's like a forum
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  where these these writers come together and they're like all
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  right what what's our what's our hit piece going to be today
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  What's going to be our conversation starter today with.
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  I can't let this guy in because he didn't treat me well in the
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  clubhouse. It's, it's, it's it's all
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  somewhat of a. That to me is more egregious
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  than than what some of these guys have done.
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  Like I know that may that may turn some heads, but to not put
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  a guy in because you felt slighted in the in the locker
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  room. Come on.
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  What are we? And that's where it like I
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  don't. That's where I'm curious to see
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  if voting can can be altered. We talk about this for like the
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  All Star game. You know what I mean?
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  How do we alter voting and what is worth it?
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  And like, is there a way to have a fan vote potentially make up
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  the difference where writers are lacking or vice versa?
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  Maybe it's a new score that needs to be obtained in some
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  type of, you know what I mean? Like, I think things can.
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  The difficulty is that the game has been around so long, the
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  Hall of Fame has been around so long and it's like, how can we
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  change it now? Because this is the way it's
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  been structured. But at the same time, I don't
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  know much history when it comes to this type of stuff and like
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  how guys get in. But what about this committee
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  that was created for the guys that are off the ballot and they
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  get in 40 years later, they're dead and you know their son,
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  right? Like, how when did that come
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  into play and when was that decision made?
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  Can we make adjustments that way to address the other thing, By
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  the way, with the greenies and stuff?
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  I don't. It's too hard to go back.
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  You know what I mean? It's too hard to.
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  We can't rewrite history. We can't go back and and correct
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  things. And I know that's a rumor.
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  I heard those rumors about Hank Aaron as well.
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  It's like, you know, it is what it is.
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  We'll never know. I I think I can probably
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  appreciate a lot of players and former players saying that like
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  this, this game's full of cheaters.
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  That's the whole point. You try to find a way to edge
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  yourself over someone else and it's hard to see how.
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  That's not true. But it's at the same time, me as
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  a fan, me personally, I'm always going to lean my bias towards
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  the guys that did it clean. And you know, I was talking
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  about this yesterday with like I when I was watching football
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  with my father-in-law. It's like you the Ravens are
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  getting blown out and you know they're giving up chunk 1525
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  yard plays and the defender smokes a guy and gets up and
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  flexes and celebrates. It's like, dude, you're down 3
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  scores. Would it?
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  It's it's just, that's how I am. You and I took a while to get
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  over this bat flip era. And even then I'm like, I'm
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  still, I'm more biased to the guy that just drops it and puts
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  his head down because I think that says more.
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  That's my opinion. So it's tough to have a place
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  that's so glorified and so pure, if you will.
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  It's hard to potentially let in impurities and say it's going to
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  be the same. No.
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  But in in defense of the people that are saying that it's
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  already full of cheaters. They're right.
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  Like they're you want to talk about the character clause like
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  just. I mean you don't have to look
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  very far down the list of names that are in there to to realize
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  like there's some not so great guys in there if we're being
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  completely honest. And there's some guys that did
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  some things undetected that that nobody really knows about and
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  may not ever know about. But but maybe we don't teach our
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  son to be exactly like a a professional athlete.
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  And maybe we just say that professional athletes are just
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  that, they're professional athletes.
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  Maybe we don't idolize him this as much as you know we want to.
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  That's a good point. It's a different, it's probably
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  a different topic I think. Yeah, one that we're maybe not
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  going to rip the the, the cover off of just yet.
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  We do however, need to run through these results.
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  We want to give the these guys the credit that they're due.
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  Talk about cheaters and guys who maybe do or don't deserve to be
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  in. I I think it's safe to say the
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  three names that were selected certainly deserve to be in.
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  Adrian Beltre getting in at a 95.1% clip on his first try on
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  the ballot, Joe Mauer 76.1% on his first try on the ballot and
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  Todd Hilton in his sixth year getting in at a clip of 79.7%.
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  I think and I know our I know our guy, AJ Torres mentioned Joe
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  Mauer. I think he was I I personally
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  didn't have any questions or concerns about his I'm.
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  Surprised As far as low as as low as that number was, I'm a
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  little surprised. Yeah, but I mean.
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  If you're in, you're in, Yeah, hit the ball. 317 or or 517 is
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  still gone. Yeah, you're, you know.
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  You're a Hall of Famer one way or another.
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  But I, I, I think the name that had the most scrutiny, and of
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  the three, I guess deservedly so.
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  I mean, I was, I was a pro. Put Todd in.
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  Me too been saying since we started this pod.
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  But Todd Hilton, as I mentioned 79.7%, he bumped up from, I
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  think I'm reading here 52% in 2022 and then last year just
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  missed out at 72.2% and then gets in basically 80% this year,
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  so. That's the other thing that I
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  don't like about this system. It's like it's so dictated on
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  who you're on the ballot with. I don't think that's right.
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  You're either Hall of Famer or you're not.
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  Six years is weird. You know what I like?
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  I I just don't understand why we had to let these other names
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  phase out in order for you to get in.
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  Yeah. Like you hear these you hear
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  these writers talk. I I hate the Hall of Fame season
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  because it it always comes back to these idiot writers and we
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  don't spend as much and I and I know we have full control over
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  what we what we talk about. But it's it's almost it's near
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  impossible to talk about the Hall of Fame and the the
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  decisions that come into play with with who gets in without
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  bringing up the people, the very people that make the decisions.
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  Yeah. But you you hear these guys make
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  the make their arguments all the time after or they share their
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  reasoning after the fact or even before the the results get
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  announced. We're like, yeah, well, I had to
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  let Player X slide off the ballot because, you know, he's
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  still got five more years. And I I'm like.
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  That's on how it works. Dude, you're voting.
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  You're not trying to game the system here.
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  You're voting for who you think are the Hall of Farmers.
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  Like I'll get him to. Be the Hall of Famer or not?
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  No, I don't want to understand it.
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  It's a stupid system, it's an archaic system and it's.
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  And the only people that like it are the freaking writers, man.
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  Does. Does I?
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  I don't really hear players immediately getting up to the
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  podium and thinking and bowing down to the writers.
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  It's like there's just there's too much power, dude, there's
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  too much. Power it kind of.
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  Honestly, I I don't think I really consider this until just
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  this very minute. It's kind of weird when you
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  really think about it. The fact that these guys have,
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  what, 10 years on the ballot, that's a that's a wild system
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  like. What are?
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  Well, meeting meeting certain standards, right?
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  Like if you fall below a threshold of percentage votes,
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  you're out. Oh, sure.
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  No, I mean, assuming you're like like a Todd out, We'll just use
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  Todd out as an example. Like assuming you're well above
• 24:48
  the minimum thresholds for the duration of the time you're on
• 24:50
  the ballot. Yeah, it's a silly system if you
• 24:54
  really take the time to think about it.
• 24:56
  Yeah. Like we're we're trying to
• 24:58
  muster up a case to convince writers whether or not we think
• 25:04
  a guy deserves to be on the I mean, whether it comes down to
• 25:07
  public opinion or not, or whether these guys are locked
• 25:10
  behind closed doors every this time, every year, whatever, I
• 25:13
  don't know. But it's it's just weird to me,
• 25:18
  you know? Does that make sense?
• 25:20
  I don't understand the limited votes that you can give.
• 25:24
  Why? Why do you have limited names
• 25:28
  that you can choose? Why do you only have so many
• 25:30
  votes? It's 8, right?
• 25:35
  10-10. You have 10 votes you can put
• 25:38
  out on a single ballot. Why?
• 25:42
  Well, I What's the point of that?
• 25:46
  If you're a Hall of Famer, you're a Hall of Famer.
• 25:49
  Not. Hey, I'm running low on votes,
• 25:52
  and this guy's in his last year and this guy's in his first
• 25:54
  year. I know he'll be back next year
• 25:56
  because he's got this amount of votes.
• 25:57
  What if you're a Hall of Famer? You're a Hall of Famer.
• 26:02
  This is a weird, wonky system. That is it's, it's.
• 26:10
  I hate it. And writers are just so
• 26:14
  arrogant, Dude. There's so much arrogance
• 26:17
  attached to this, to the writers.
• 26:26
  Yeah, yeah. To the writers.
• 26:30
  Yeah. Bums.
• 26:32
  Yeah, I mean. I feel bad for those listeners
• 26:36
  that have been listening to us for years because I'm pretty
• 26:39
  sure this is a shampoo effect, rinse and repeat conversation
• 26:44
  we've had every year. But yeah, this is across, this
• 26:48
  is across all of baseball, man. Everybody has his combo and it
• 26:51
  sucks. Shout out to the new listeners
• 26:53
  who are hearing it for the first time.
• 26:55
  Hopefully we've and also made our case.
• 26:58
  Shout out to freaking Todd Hilton, Joe Mauer, and and
• 27:02
  Adrian Beltray. I mean, I I love Todd Hilton
• 27:07
  personally. I I I love what he did for the
• 27:11
  organization of the Rockies. I love that he stuck around the
• 27:13
  whole time. I love that he just, he's the
• 27:17
  dude man. Such a clean glove over at first
• 27:19
  base. I don't need to sit here and
• 27:22
  have arguments about elevation and humidifier and whatever the
• 27:25
  humidor like I don't. I don't need to do that.
• 27:28
  That guy's a Hall Famer. A stud.
• 27:31
  Love it. Adrian Beltre.
• 27:34
  I mean, what a freak. First of all, I think he's got
• 27:40
  to be remembered as the top 20 right-hander of all time.
• 27:45
  Possibly Joe Mauer. Joe Mauer to me is kind of like
• 27:54
  a it's kind of hard to compare him lacrosse.
• 27:58
  It's it's like a, you know, he had so much talent and I I think
• 28:03
  he was capable of doing more if his body would let him.
• 28:07
  But in that time he was dominant and that's I think that's
• 28:11
  probably my biggest conversation.
• 28:15
  It's like you talk about when you go in and you travel to a
• 28:18
  different team and you game plan against somebody, how long are
• 28:21
  you game planning for that guy? If you're game planning for that
• 28:25
  guy for six, 7-8 years, that big of a chunk, he's sitting in the
• 28:30
  middle of his lineup or you know what I mean?
• 28:32
  Hey, we're facing this guy on the bump this series and your
• 28:36
  game planning for that guy for so long and he's just sitting at
• 28:39
  the top of the leaderboards for stats for so long of his career.
• 28:43
  That's all I need to tell me, you know what I mean?
• 28:47
  It's less about the milestones and less about the overall
• 28:50
  numbers. I think it's more about like,
• 28:52
  were you dominant in that period And what AJ said, Buster Posey,
• 28:56
  now that Mauer's in, Buster Posey's a landslide because it's
• 28:59
  like you were dominant in that period.
• 29:01
  And yeah, it didn't last forever.
• 29:04
  I give credit to the guys that do last forever, but there's
• 29:10
  different ways of getting in. So perhaps all three of these
• 29:13
  guys. Huge monumental names.
• 29:20
  Do you think Beltre goes in as a Ranger, right?
• 29:27
  Yeah, Yeah, he wasn't a Dodger very long.
• 29:35
  Where? Else was he.
• 29:37
  It's one other place. Now he was with the Dodgers,
• 29:40
  Mariners, Saracen. Rangers, Yeah.
• 29:46
  Yeah, 3 studs, man. All deserving?
• 29:53
  Yep. See Peyton Manning.
• 29:57
  His. His.
• 29:58
  I did. I did.
• 30:00
  Love that big Peyton guy. I'm a big Peyton guy as well.
• 30:04
  I can't help it. Can't help it.
• 30:08
  Let us We went way deeper. I thought we would, thanks to
• 30:13
  the stupid writers, but we got to move on.
• 30:17
  Let's talk some some current day stuff, some things that are
• 30:21
  happening on the here and now. Some of this is maybe slightly
• 30:28
  past due because again, we only do one episode during the the
• 30:31
  offseason each week. So playing a little bit of catch
• 30:35
  up. Not too bad though we actually
• 30:37
  had we had one, we had one trade go down just before we hopped on
• 30:42
  Jorge Blanco. We'll start with that.
• 30:44
  Traded from the Twins to the Mariners.
• 30:46
  The Twins. In return, we get Anthony
• 30:50
  Desclafani, Justin Topa, along with prospects outfielder
• 30:56
  Gabriel Gonzalez and right-hander Darren Bowen.
• 31:04
  I mean so. Robbie Ray was turned into who
• 31:09
  else was with Desclafani Hanniger in the package.
• 31:14
  Yeah, oh, oh, oh. Hanniger and Descalfani.
• 31:18
  One other guy, right? So now Descalfani has been
• 31:26
  flipped into Jorge Polanco. Interesting.
• 31:31
  I like Jorge Polanco. Personally, I like him.
• 31:36
  Yeah, but like before you even look, before you even begin to
• 31:40
  look at the details of the Hall itself, I mean, four guys,
• 31:44
  that's a lot for Polanco, no? Yeah, probably.
• 31:49
  I'm still not totally bought in in on whatever the Mariners are
• 31:53
  doing. This seems like a it's like a
• 31:55
  payroll slash. And then also you're bringing in
• 31:59
  like vets that like you're just trying to squeeze the last out
• 32:05
  of them, you know? Passing just tweeted said
• 32:10
  Gonzales is a top 100 ish prospect.
• 32:14
  SOPA was excellent in 2023. Bowen was 23 and in low A last
• 32:18
  year. Descalfani gives Minnesota much
• 32:21
  needed innings. Polanco is a huge get for the
• 32:23
  Mariners and will slot into the middle of the lineup first with
• 32:27
  him. Going to Seattle finds him so.
• 32:30
  He's a little older, isn't he? Isn't he like, 33?
• 32:32
  He just He played a decade in Minnesota.
• 32:35
  Yeah. He's got to be. 3334.
• 32:43
  Wow. He's 3030, man.
• 32:46
  So he came up young. Still four names.
• 32:53
  It's interesting. Wow, for I didn't.
• 32:56
  I don't think I realized this, but between his first two years
• 33:00
  in the big leagues, he only played nine games.
• 33:03
  So he really only gave you and even even his first quote UN
• 33:09
  quote full season he gave you a 69 games, 270 plate appearances.
• 33:13
  So he wasn't really settled in until 2017.
• 33:20
  That seems wild. It just feels like he's been
• 33:23
  around forever. I I do think he's one of those
• 33:26
  guys that, like, maybe just overlooked, underappreciated
• 33:28
  being in Minnesota. Yeah, and especially begin like
• 33:32
  the beginning of his, you know, settling in career Minnesota
• 33:37
  wasn't good, you know. So now that you know, I'd like
• 33:41
  to see him somewhere else. I'd like to see how that goes.
• 33:44
  I like him. It doesn't move the needle a
• 33:48
  ton, and middle of the lineup is generous.
• 33:51
  Yeah, yeah, I'm with you and I'm with you on all those things.
• 33:55
  Like, I I like him. I'm not.
• 33:57
  I I know it may sound like I'm knocking the guy.
• 33:59
  It's it's not that. I just think it's like 4 guys,
• 34:02
  regardless if you've got a what? A a 23 year old playing an A
• 34:06
  ball mixed in there regard. Regardless of that I I just
• 34:12
  fucked four guys from Polanco. Seems like a lot.
• 34:14
  But you know, I mean the Mariners are trying to dump some
• 34:18
  pieces, clear some space, Whatever they're doing, so be
• 34:23
  it. Let.
• 34:26
  Me See here career 17 WAR career 269 hitter, 112 home runs.
• 34:35
  Not his game. He's a one time All Star his
• 34:39
  last two seasons. He was hurt last year for a
• 34:43
  stretch, but his last two years respectively, 2022 hit 235, Last
• 34:50
  year hit 255. Neither of those seasons did he
• 34:56
  post an OPS above 789. It was 751 and twenty 22780 or
• 35:02
  I'm sorry, seven. Yeah, 751 and 2022 and 789 in
• 35:06
  twenty 23150 OPS plus A115 both years.
• 35:12
  It just doesn't. Yeah.
• 35:14
  He's he's going to be a serviceable second baseman for
• 35:17
  them. But it just doesn't.
• 35:20
  To say is a huge get. Yeah, I think that's generous in
• 35:23
  that. I think if this if this
• 35:25
  offseason hot stove was anything better than what it is, I don't
• 35:30
  think this is as big. Of a conversation?
• 35:33
  No, this says this conversation doesn't even happen if if guys
• 35:37
  like Cody Bellinger, Blake Snell, Jordan Montgomery, Names
• 35:40
  like that are moving, but they're not.
• 35:41
  So this is what we're talking about.
• 35:43
  Yeah, 58 games last year at second base, 15 at third.
• 35:49
  Nice. Low versatility.
• 35:51
  What's the rest of their roster look like right now?
• 35:55
  Let's look. I did see some.
• 35:57
  I saw some Blue Jay fans clamoring for his services at
• 36:01
  third base, which I thought was an interesting, interesting fit.
• 36:05
  Really. Blue Jays want everybody right
• 36:07
  now, man. Blue Jays want Cody Bellinger, a
• 36:13
  name we'd mentioned that is has yet to move.
• 36:23
  Yeah, well I this is a lot of confusion here.
• 36:27
  JP Crawford slots it short obviously.
• 36:30
  Ty France over at first rotate with Luke Rayley, which was a
• 36:36
  good AD. I did like that move.
• 36:38
  Yeah. Sam Haggerty, I believe, started
• 36:42
  as an outfielder to begin his career if they have him as an
• 36:48
  infielder. Josh Rojas and Luis Arias were
• 36:52
  also added. This is interesting.
• 37:01
  I don't know how it again. Who else was added?
• 37:04
  Luis Urias, Urias, whatever. And Joshua.
• 37:08
  Completely different people, Yeah, but the same name, right?
• 37:13
  Not a no, not not Arayas, not that.
• 37:16
  No. No, no, no, no.
• 37:17
  Not in Luis. Rias no Uri.
• 37:19
  There was another Urias from Milwaukee.
• 37:23
  Well, he was with, Yeah. Yeah, he was with I I think I'm
• 37:26
  from Milwaukee, but yeah, yeah, Yeah.
• 37:31
  So who's this Luis Rias? Which one is this?
• 37:37
  No, that's that's him. That's him.
• 37:39
  But you said Luis Orias, and I'm saying that's not.
• 37:42
  That's not who we're talking about.
• 37:43
  No, that's a compliment. Just.
• 37:44
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:46
  Yeah. I I don't know this infield.
• 37:48
  I don't. I just.
• 37:49
  I don't understand what's happening.
• 37:50
  I don't understand what's happening with most of these
• 37:52
  moves. I like adding Rayleigh and Mitch
• 37:56
  Garver, but like, I don't know what's going on.
• 37:59
  Mitch, Garver's a good get. Can we can we back up though?
• 38:02
  I I still don't feel like we're on the same page here.
• 38:04
  You understand what I'm saying? Maybe.
• 38:06
  Who's the other ureus? Ureus.
• 38:08
  No, no, no, no, no, no. I let's let's stay here.
• 38:14
  So we there's Luis Arias. And then there's Luis Arias.
• 38:20
  Like, yeah, the guy that just hits, yeah, I know you.
• 38:25
  It's a little foggy for you right now because of what we
• 38:28
  talked about. With yeah, I know it's not
• 38:29
  arayas. I know that.
• 38:31
  OK, But that's. What you that's who you said
• 38:32
  when you're running through the the names that they have, you
• 38:35
  said Luis Arayas. Urias, I was reading it wrong.
• 38:41
  It's it's it's it's serious. Yeah, I know.
• 38:44
  My last thing, it's not Luis Arayas and I still can't do
• 38:46
  this. Yeah, it's, it's all right.
• 38:47
  OK. Just wanted to clear that up.
• 38:49
  Yeah. OK.
• 38:49
  We're good. But the Rojas is in the Urias is
• 38:54
  in the I I can't keep it straight.
• 38:57
  These all these all seem like the same player to me.
• 39:00
  The same like you're going to mix in at shortstop for 60
• 39:04
  games, you're going to hit 215, then you're going to give pretty
• 39:08
  decent defense. So I just, I I I don't, I don't
• 39:12
  know what's going on here. I don't know what the Mariners
• 39:14
  are doing. It doesn't feel like they're
• 39:16
  getting better, it just feels like they're making moves to
• 39:20
  make moves. That momentum I feel like was
• 39:22
  short lived. Yeah, I think they're fumbling
• 39:27
  the bag a little bit. Yep.
• 39:29
  Yep. And I'm looking at this pitching
• 39:31
  staff and it's like, I I don't know what's going on here
• 39:34
  either. And and I say that let me just
• 39:41
  clarify. I I say that knowing full well
• 39:44
  and we've talked about this plenty that it doesn't just
• 39:49
  because they're not going out and and and making these yeah I
• 39:53
  don't need Yamabato Otani type offers.
• 39:57
  We're not like that doesn't we're not saying that that
• 40:00
  equals success or it it translates to wins but like if
• 40:05
  you're a Mariners fan you got to admit that like not much of what
• 40:08
  you've really done lately has has inspired you.
• 40:12
  I mean right. I mean can we all agree there
• 40:15
  Yeah. So we're not saying that they're
• 40:16
  not. They're not making smart moves,
• 40:20
  but they're not. They're not doing enough to give
• 40:24
  you a clear indication of what the vision is moving.
• 40:26
  Forward, yeah. Or to give you a reason to
• 40:29
  really be excited. The only thing I'll say is that
• 40:32
  I feel like they did successfully add a little pop
• 40:34
  between Garver and Rayleigh. Yeah, no.
• 40:38
  Like I said, Garver Garver's good move.
• 40:40
  But. Mitch Hanniger's head scratcher.
• 40:45
  I mean, I. Do you get like right, that's
• 40:49
  your catcher like yeah great AD but you need you need to give me
• 40:53
  a we. Have Cal Raleigh as well.
• 40:55
  So it's like does does Mitch Carter just plug DH the whole
• 40:58
  time and like So what do you do with Ty France and and Luke
• 41:02
  Raleigh? Like you have three names, four
• 41:04
  names. They're going to rotate through
• 41:06
  only two spots and it's like, I don't know what the move is
• 41:10
  here. You continue to bring back old
• 41:13
  outfielders and I just, I don't, I don't understand what's
• 41:19
  happening. Maybe he maybe Palanka will be
• 41:22
  hitting in the middle of this lineup, because I'm not seeing
• 41:24
  the vision here. Talking about hitting in the
• 41:28
  middle of the lineup, Brewers go out and get Reese Hoskins on a
• 41:32
  two year deal. I like opt out includes an opt
• 41:37
  out after the first season. Deals were 34 mil.
• 41:42
  Player Club Opt out. I think it's Player.
• 41:51
  Let me check. I do like this deal.
• 41:55
  Yeah, your Milwaukee probably have to overpay a little bit for
• 42:00
  this coming off an injury, but I I like the juice.
• 42:05
  I like the pop. They've been desperate for a
• 42:11
  first baseman for a while now, so I'm a fan of this.
• 42:20
  This is a surprise Milwaukee move that ordinarily would not
• 42:24
  expect out of them, so I'm on board.
• 42:30
  Player option after 24. Smart.
• 42:34
  What a deal. That agent needs a raise.
• 42:39
  Didn't play last year. You're going to make 17 a year.
• 42:45
  You have a flexible deal where you can bet on yourself.
• 42:47
  If you come back and you're the normal Reese Hoskins, you hit
• 42:51
  the market again. If not 17, a mil is 17 mil for a
• 42:55
  second year. Is ain't so bad if you're if
• 43:00
  you're a little slow and and you still got the rust to work off.
• 43:04
  I think it's probably an overpay like I said, but Milwaukee needs
• 43:09
  to because they don't. They haven't had a first baseman
• 43:11
  to rely on since I don't even know when.
• 43:16
  You don't. I don't know if Rowdy to Lez is
• 43:17
  really. I don't know.
• 43:19
  Yeah. Scratching the itch?
• 43:22
  Yeah, I mean it's it's best case for.
• 43:25
  The void It's from a hole over there for a while.
• 43:28
  It's best case for for Reese after I don't want to be saying
• 43:34
  kick, I don't want to say kick to the curb.
• 43:38
  It's tough when Bryce Harper's like, hey I that's mine now I'll
• 43:42
  play first. And you, I mean, you have to
• 43:45
  know, I mean the type of, the type of guy that we can imagine.
• 43:48
  Bryce is having the conversation with Dave Dombrowski, Philly Rob
• 43:52
  sitting at that table. You and I would venture to say
• 43:55
  Reese's is at the table there and they're going look like
• 44:01
  somebody's going to have to draw the short end of the stick here.
• 44:03
  I think Reese has the awareness to go.
• 44:06
  We're talking about Bryce Harper here.
• 44:08
  You know, I wasn't here last year.
• 44:11
  I wasn't contributing last year. Again, it's Bryce Harper.
• 44:16
  I think given the decision to make him the full time first
• 44:21
  baseman and who knows, maybe there was some kickback from
• 44:24
  Bryce. Like, no, Like, is there a way
• 44:26
  we can make this work? Because he was very vocal about
• 44:29
  trying to keep Reese around. And I feel like for the most
• 44:32
  part, they've kept a good handful of those guys around for
• 44:36
  a number of years now. And I think it was time for one
• 44:39
  of them to to get, yeah. And it was just time.
• 44:43
  Like you said, if this isn't overpay, Reese is the guy that
• 44:47
  benefits here in that in that scenario and if he has a good
• 44:50
  year, hits the market again. If not, he falls back on a 17
• 44:56
  mil year 2. So I.
• 44:59
  Want to see what else? I just want to look at this
• 45:01
  Brewers team, see if I. Think it's win, Win for
• 45:03
  everybody? See if I'm losing my mind at
• 45:12
  all. Oh, brought in Jake Bowers too.
• 45:18
  They sure did. Huh.
• 45:22
  All right. I mean, it's it's interesting.
• 45:28
  Still a little interesting? Yeah, this is still giving me
• 45:34
  typical Brewer vibes. Yeah, I just wish Christian
• 45:43
  Yelich was more than a flash of the pan.
• 45:50
  I've heard rumors of the of the woolly adamas stuff, but like,
• 45:58
  why now? Why?
• 45:59
  Why? Yeah, why ship them out?
• 46:01
  Like you might as well see what you have this season and see if
• 46:03
  you can piece together some wins.
• 46:05
  And if you don't, then sell at the deadline.
• 46:08
  But yeah, and then you still have arms that you can move on
• 46:14
  from two. Yeah.
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• 46:41
  Siki yeah, we we know you're not inspired by Milwaukee baseball.
• 46:49
  Wait that's That's well documented.
• 46:52
  But I think you and I can both agree this is a, you know, good
• 46:55
  move, good move all around. Yeah, I like the move.
• 47:00
  Yep. Best case, he's got 1820 home
• 47:06
  runs up by the deadline and your nine to 10 games out of it and
• 47:14
  you flip them. That's that's that's best case.
• 47:18
  I think that's best case that's best case for the Brewers A-Team
• 47:21
  that's like a the perennial. Yeah, unless you get a Cy Young
• 47:26
  Corbin Burns again. Yeah, which I would like to see
• 47:31
  him elsewhere. There are some names that I'm
• 47:32
  just like, you know, you you would do cooler things elsewhere
• 47:37
  if you weren't in Wisconsin. Yeah, that's a good thought.
• 47:40
  Can we? Can we as as baseball fans,
• 47:44
  agree to just do like a fantasy trade?
• 47:48
  Like, let's scrap every roster and let's start from scratch
• 47:52
  your. Fantasy draft?
• 47:53
  It'd be sick. Do a A league wide redraw 1.
• 47:57
  Keeper You're going to have one Keeper 1.
• 47:59
  Keeper 1. Keeper and we just redraft the
• 48:02
  whole league shake. Hands up, I feel like the
• 48:05
  Brewers would keep Corbin Burns, wouldn't they?
• 48:07
  No, Probably. Probably.
• 48:09
  Devin Williams. I don't know.
• 48:14
  That's tough if you don't know who your keeper is.
• 48:17
  I think that's an interesting scenario to be in.
• 48:20
  That's pretty telling. That just tells you what it's
• 48:22
  like to be in Wisconsin. Packers are looking better,
• 48:26
  though, so things are turning up.
• 48:32
  Super Bowl I I I could not be more done with the Chiefs.
• 48:39
  I could not be more out on the Chiefs.
• 48:43
  I knew this was coming. I knew that T Swift was going to
• 48:47
  be forced into this stupid thing, and we're going to have
• 48:50
  to. The fact that I'm getting
• 48:51
  notifications about her is insane.
• 48:59
  I'm a big Brock Party guy, so I'm riding just.
• 49:02
  Irrelevant. How about that dude 2?
• 49:04
  Years. The Niners.
• 49:06
  He went to school out here. He went to high school out here.
• 49:08
  Did he really? Right down the road.
• 49:11
  Drafted as Mr. Relevant 2 years later Heading to the Super Bowl.
• 49:15
  Good for, good for. Brock man, I'm riding hard on
• 49:18
  Brock. He's the man.
• 49:20
  Oh, you know, 98% of America is pulling for the Niners.
• 49:25
  And honestly, if you were to ask me if I was to, like, switch
• 49:27
  lives with one person, to be honest, Christian McCaffrey
• 49:30
  might be up there. That guy is.
• 49:34
  He's checking a lot of boxes for a lot of people.
• 49:36
  All right. So you want to hear something
• 49:37
  crazy? I think I maybe shared this
• 49:38
  story, just a little little tangent here before we continue
• 49:42
  on with Baseball talk. Me and Meredith were out in LA.
• 49:48
  Me and Meredith, Meredith and I properly there is here.
• 49:50
  Hello. Nice.
• 49:52
  We were in LA last Newport last Sock shout out, did you test
• 49:58
  out, did you? Test out English.
• 50:00
  Or yes, I did. I sure did.
• 50:07
  No, we're out in. Lai was out there for a
• 50:09
  conference last last October. Holy cow, that was 2 Octobers
• 50:15
  ago. Oh my goodness.
• 50:17
  Yeah, I don't know what's going. On 20/22.
• 50:20
  Yeah, it's 2022. Little flat escalator thing at
• 50:24
  the at the airport. Yep, we're going a lot faster
• 50:27
  when. We need to go.
• 50:29
  We were, we were out there and we were staying.
• 50:32
  They, they put us up in this hotel and the Panthers were in
• 50:40
  town and they were staying in this hotel and we were hanging
• 50:47
  out. They gave us like these, like
• 50:49
  little vouchers to use at the bar for like an app or a drink,
• 50:53
  whatever. So we went down there one night
• 50:57
  and dude, I'm like 90. I wish you would have been there
• 51:00
  because you could have told me for certain.
• 51:03
  I'm like 99% sure. Christian McCaffrey 'cause he
• 51:07
  was with the Panthers still at the time.
• 51:10
  Double, like, triple. Check me on that right 'cause he
• 51:15
  wasn't with the Niners until last year.
• 51:17
  Yeah, he got traded to the to the Niners last year.
• 51:20
  Yeah, yeah. So he's still on the team with
• 51:22
  time, 99% sure. He comes down to the the the
• 51:27
  woman working the bar that night, asking if he had lost his
• 51:33
  wallet there, and if so, if anybody had returned it.
• 51:35
  He was decked out in Panther stuff and I'm like 99% sure it
• 51:41
  was Christian McCaffrey, but I'm not positive.
• 51:44
  But I think it. Wasn't I mean, he's?
• 51:46
  And I'm sitting right there. Just a good looking cat man.
• 51:50
  And he's like super cool, super cool.
• 51:55
  He went to high school right down the street from me in
• 51:59
  Denver. He went to Valor Christian high
• 52:03
  School. All his brothers went there.
• 52:05
  Valor Christian was like the school dude.
• 52:08
  Like Vinny Castilla's kid was there.
• 52:09
  So Vinny Castilla would go out and coach the team.
• 52:12
  Brian Dawkins, remember him? The safety?
• 52:15
  Sure do. His kid went there the same time
• 52:17
  Christian McCaffrey was there. So he was coaching.
• 52:19
  It was insane. And Ed McCaffrey, everyone
• 52:21
  knows, was in the In the League of wild for the Broncos.
• 52:24
  So like, yeah, went to the crazy school.
• 52:27
  But yeah, Chris McCaffrey dude. Like, I little guy crush on that
• 52:31
  guy. Like he's he's, he's the dude.
• 52:35
  Living the life back to Baseball Hector Naris The Cubs signed
• 52:42
  Hector Naris on a one year, $9 million deal.
• 52:46
  Includes an option. I without, like, I'm just going
• 52:53
  to fire from the hip. Like we talked about the
• 52:55
  beginning of the show. That's all I do.
• 52:57
  Babe, babe. No research.
• 52:59
  I don't know why, but if we include the Craig Council thing,
• 53:03
  I'm just going to give this offseason for the Cubs an A I
• 53:09
  feel like they're doing the right things.
• 53:12
  Am I crazy? They're still in on Cody
• 53:15
  Bellinger. Too.
• 53:16
  If they bring back Cody, that's an A.
• 53:19
  If here's the thing, though, not only do the if they bring back
• 53:23
  Cody Bellinger, but if they bring him back lower than what
• 53:26
  the market was anticipating, which the longer we get or the
• 53:30
  longer it goes, the closer we get to spring training, that
• 53:34
  price tag is only going down. Yeah, yeah, for a lot of these
• 53:40
  guys. Snell too.
• 53:42
  So. But I I don't know what it is.
• 53:44
  What? What else did they do?
• 53:45
  What? I'm I don't know why I'm giving
• 53:47
  him an A, but I want to give him an A.
• 53:49
  They got imanaga, right? Yeah, imanaga they got.
• 53:56
  There was one other move. It's one other solid move or no.
• 54:01
  It no. Why am I acting like they went
• 54:03
  crazy? They they played it late, didn't
• 54:05
  they, Like, weren't they? They were like one of the last
• 54:07
  few teams, I think to make a move, if I recall.
• 54:10
  So maybe it wasn't one other guy.
• 54:11
  I think that it may have been it.
• 54:13
  Craig Counsel's got to be worth the C plus on his own.
• 54:17
  No other moves. You could do no moves.
• 54:19
  That's good. You jump up from an F Yep, I
• 54:22
  agree, that may have been it. Let me, let me, let me try to do
• 54:30
  some research, see what happens. Yeah, maybe there's not a lot
• 54:40
  going on here. He already did that user.
• 54:44
  Just bridging the gap. Oh the.
• 54:48
  El Monte move. I like that.
• 54:51
  The Yancey Almonte move with the Dodgers.
• 54:55
  Oh, true. Yep.
• 54:56
  That one looks good. That one looks cool.
• 55:00
  Can we go to oh, let me drop back last month, the Imanaga.
• 55:06
  Are we missing something, guy? Yeah, they got, they got some
• 55:12
  good options back there on the in the back end of the bullpen.
• 55:18
  I like. I like what the Cubs are doing.
• 55:22
  Whatever. Bring back Bellinger and Cubs
• 55:26
  fans should be happy. Maybe I'm out of I'm just out of
• 55:29
  pocket. I don't know.
• 55:30
  I don't know what's going on over there.
• 55:32
  I like it, though. The Cubs are like turning into
• 55:36
  this weird team that everyone like kind of roots for to to get
• 55:40
  back to normalcy. I don't know why I like it.
• 55:43
  I I can't explain it. I can't explain why I'm backing
• 55:46
  them, but I want to. I feel bad for them.
• 55:49
  I don't know why I think baseball's better when the Cubs
• 55:54
  are good. Do I agree?
• 55:57
  I mean they they weren't on anybody's good side when they
• 55:59
  were threatening to ship out Contreras and KB and yeah, Rizzo
• 56:05
  and breaking up the breaking up the band.
• 56:08
  But now they've, they've reshifted the focus, they've
• 56:12
  they've narrowed in on a vision. I think people are starting to
• 56:15
  see it, even the casuals. And I think you're right.
• 56:19
  I think. I think people are going to
• 56:22
  start pulling for the old cubbies again.
• 56:27
  Jock Peterson heading to the NL champ D backs on a one year.
• 56:35
  Can I just say something? I I.
• 56:37
  Hate Kind of sneaky with stuff. Yeah, I mean.
• 56:41
  It is not that this is not that this is a No 140 game kind of
• 56:46
  guy. No.
• 56:49
  I but I hate one year deals. I I hate them.
• 56:54
  And it's really becoming more clear to me just how much I hate
• 57:04
  one year deals because I've said it on here before.
• 57:09
  I appreciate when a a a name can stick around.
• 57:13
  Yeah. For a length of time give fans a
• 57:18
  a chance to latch on to get to know get to appreciate a little
• 57:24
  bit. But when you're signing these
• 57:26
  guys to just plug holes and I I know it's part of the game.
• 57:29
  I'm not I'm not naive in that sense but you know it's it's
• 57:33
  just one year deal here one year deal there.
• 57:36
  It's like my goodness, yeah and especially with guys that are on
• 57:40
  the back end of their careers which to be fair is good portion
• 57:46
  of the guys that are receiving these deals.
• 57:47
  But it's like, it's hard to pull, for example, Red Sox.
• 57:52
  It's hard for me to get excited about the Red Sox bringing in
• 57:55
  Justin Turner last year because it's like the dude who most
• 57:59
  likely will not be here in 2024. That could change of course, but
• 58:04
  it's like. Yeah.
• 58:07
  At the very. Least I'm with you.
• 58:08
  Just give me, give me two years, you know?
• 58:10
  That's all I'm asking for. That's all I'm asking for.
• 58:11
  I can get on board with that. I can get on board with that.
• 58:15
  I do. I I kind of like what some of
• 58:17
  the things that the the Diamondbacks are doing.
• 58:21
  I I that is a team where it's like hey we're not far off.
• 58:27
  We don't need to do a ton to get better.
• 58:33
  Let's do a little fill in the gaps here.
• 58:37
  So Ijennio Suarez, they brought back Guriel, added E Rod right.
• 58:49
  Sure did that was four year deal?
• 58:51
  And then this. It's like, you know, not that
• 58:53
  Jack Peterson is, but like, if you can get something out of
• 58:59
  him, you know, this is what Jack Peterson is like.
• 59:03
  The epitome of like, you remember that chapter where like
• 59:07
  growing up and and even like into our teenage years where
• 59:11
  these teams, like, really wanted a good pinch hitter.
• 59:18
  Yeah. That's what I feel like we're
• 59:20
  starting to creep into, Like let's go get this veteran bat
• 59:25
  that has spent the last few years understanding how to stay
• 59:29
  productive as an as a not everyday player.
• 59:32
  Sure. And willing to accept a role.
• 59:36
  Great clubhouse guy. I I like the move.
• 59:41
  I'm not. I'm it's not like Jock does a
• 59:43
  lot for me. But I see what they're doing and
• 59:48
  I see some of the other moves they made.
• 59:50
  And I'm like, you know, I don't hate what you're doing.
• 59:55
  I don't respect it. I don't, I have nothing against
• 59:59
  Jock. It's more just the deals, I I
• 1:00:01
  hate one year deals that's all. I might go catch some games this
• 1:00:05
  year. I might do that.
• 1:00:08
  We'll see. How about it?
• 1:00:11
  And Adam Frazier kind of closing the book here on the On the
• 1:00:14
  Moves, not really much to cover here.
• 1:00:18
  One year deal, 4 1/2 mil. There's a handful of other deals
• 1:00:22
  that happened, very minor bunch of one year deals that didn't
• 1:00:25
  even bother to include. Yeah, but I I included him in
• 1:00:30
  this just because I feel like there was a relatively large
• 1:00:35
  fall off with him now. Like, wasn't it just was it 2-3
• 1:00:41
  years ago that he was the bat that everybody wanted and then
• 1:00:46
  the Padres 1 snatched him up from Pittsburgh?
• 1:00:49
  Do I have that right? No, that's right.
• 1:00:53
  Yeah, trade to the Padres. Yeah, I thought he was five that
• 1:00:58
  year. I thought he was like a pretty
• 1:01:01
  good guy with with the Orioles last year, right?
• 1:01:05
  Like. No, no, no I don't.
• 1:01:08
  Maybe fall off, maybe is not the right way to put it, but I've.
• 1:01:15
  There's a little over hype. We had a chapter of over hype.
• 1:01:17
  That's that's yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:01:19
  I feel like the discussion surrounding out of Frazier has
• 1:01:22
  has taken a taken a turn. Yeah, like we you have been
• 1:01:26
  good, but like let's not get crazy and say that you're the at
• 1:01:29
  the top of the market at your position.
• 1:01:31
  I'm not. I think if you recall, it may
• 1:01:34
  have just been like that month leading up to the deadline.
• 1:01:36
  Where I do remember. Frazier Yeah, it it was crazy.
• 1:01:39
  I was like, why all of a sudden are we talking about Adam Freak?
• 1:01:42
  I mean, he hit like 300 that year, like I said.
• 1:01:44
  But like, why? Why is this the coveted bat that
• 1:01:48
  everybody's trying to get at the deadline?
• 1:01:50
  I don't know. I feel like now he's playing
• 1:01:52
  with the Royals. Again, firing from the hip here,
• 1:01:54
  I I think I, the Royals have been like, kind of interesting
• 1:01:58
  this offseason. It's been a lot of these moves
• 1:02:02
  they gave us one year. I think every fan was like,
• 1:02:05
  dude, let's just see what your youth has.
• 1:02:07
  Show me what you have going on over there.
• 1:02:11
  And then there were freaking cave dwellers, dude.
• 1:02:15
  Worst team in baseball last year And then you're like, OK, well
• 1:02:18
  maybe we should get you some MLB ready names.
• 1:02:22
  And then they went out this year.
• 1:02:26
  Research time, Please hold. You looking up their infield?
• 1:02:32
  No. I'm going to look up some of the
• 1:02:34
  transactions they've made. Just these, just this this
• 1:02:39
  offseason here. SeatGeek use our promo code 3 O
• 1:02:43
  take, that's our social handle THREEOHTAKE to save $20.
• 1:02:50
  And it doesn't even have to be sports.
• 1:02:52
  It can be the theater. It can be.
• 1:02:54
  It can be a concert, it can be a an art show.
• 1:03:00
  They have those on there. I think they do.
• 1:03:01
  They got everything on there, say $20.
• 1:03:04
  Tyler Duffy invited Louis Sesta to spring training.
• 1:03:09
  Hunter Renfro, Michael Walker, Chris Stratton, Seth Lugo.
• 1:03:18
  You know what I'm saying? Like, hey Will Smith, they're
• 1:03:23
  going to the they're going to the freaking World Series, dude.
• 1:03:31
  Royals. Friend of the pod?
• 1:03:33
  Mike Brasseau getting an invite to Spring training?
• 1:03:36
  How about that? So, you know, let's.
• 1:03:40
  The Royals are going to the World Series.
• 1:03:42
  Garrett Hampson, I mean. You know, oh, not Garrett
• 1:03:48
  Hanson, Mike. I mean, I can't forget putting
• 1:03:53
  him in the World Series. Give him the Give him the crown.
• 1:03:57
  Give him the trophy. Now give.
• 1:03:58
  Him, the trophy now. I can't completely hate on them.
• 1:04:06
  I can't. I'm.
• 1:04:07
  I can appreciate what you're doing.
• 1:04:09
  You're fielding somewhat of a decent team.
• 1:04:13
  I mean it's on brand with what they do, like they're not going
• 1:04:16
  out and dropping boatloads of quiche, but no, you know,
• 1:04:20
  they're they're making royal site moves and to their credit,
• 1:04:23
  they're at the very least they're making moves they're not
• 1:04:26
  trying to payroll. I think we need to remember that
• 1:04:29
  Vinnie Pasquantino is that guy's going to be Pasquatch.
• 1:04:34
  Just wait. That guy.
• 1:04:36
  If if you don't know, you just wait.
• 1:04:39
  Bobby Witt, you will. We know about him.
• 1:04:41
  Friend of the pod. Bobby Witt.
• 1:04:43
  Oh, we know. We know.
• 1:04:45
  MJ Melendez. There's a future there.
• 1:04:48
  Come on. Drew Waters, super high
• 1:04:51
  prospect. Braves fans know him.
• 1:04:54
  There's promise here. They're going to they're going
• 1:04:59
  to see some stuff give it some time, let this core get a little
• 1:05:04
  older. But Bobby Witt pass Cantino I
• 1:05:12
  just saying. Speaking of promise, Tigers
• 1:05:19
  signed 22 year old infield prospect Colt Keith to a six
• 1:05:25
  year contract. It guarantees him $28 million.
• 1:05:34
  Hasn't seen, hasn't sniffed the grass of a Major League ballpark
• 1:05:44
  28 mil for six years. Is this like a?
• 1:05:51
  Is it a prank? I too early to tell.
• 1:05:54
  Is this like a like a fake pioneer move?
• 1:06:01
  You know what I mean? Like, hey, the Braves been
• 1:06:04
  pioneers of doing early extensions with guys that you
• 1:06:08
  know have a lot of promise. Yeah.
• 1:06:11
  Is this like a trying to one up times They're trying to one up
• 1:06:15
  everybody be like we're smarter than everybody.
• 1:06:17
  Let's go do it to our top prospect.
• 1:06:19
  Is he even their top prospect? I hope he is.
• 1:06:26
  The is he. Even. 22nd ranked prospects in
• 1:06:32
  the big leagues. OK.
• 1:06:35
  Let me see here. Cool.
• 1:06:42
  Oh, I mean, that's cool, But like, I.
• 1:06:45
  He's got to be right. No, he sure isn't.
• 1:06:49
  He's their second behind Max Clark, who's currently in a
• 1:06:53
  ball. Colt Keith, however, is
• 1:06:56
  projected to be the team starting second baseman.
• 1:07:03
  He had 325 with 14 bombs, 50 ribbies and 59 games last year
• 1:07:07
  for AA. Erie then was promoted to AAA
• 1:07:10
  Toledo and batted 28713 bombs, 51 ribbies and 67 games.
• 1:07:15
  What's his name? Colt Keith.
• 1:07:22
  It's kind of a cool name. I love it.
• 1:07:25
  Kind of a cool name some. Pretty cool initials there, if I
• 1:07:28
  do say so myself. Maybe I think that we just we
• 1:07:33
  just relax a little bit, maybe not do this.
• 1:07:38
  Who knows dude, Maybe this is the maybe.
• 1:07:40
  But maybe, who knows, maybe we are going to, you know, five
• 1:07:44
  years from now, we look back and we're like, dude, you remember
• 1:07:47
  we recorded that episode. We had no idea who this guy was
• 1:07:49
  talking a bunch of noise and he's the new Aaron Judge.
• 1:07:55
  I don't. Who knows, man.
• 1:07:57
  We never know. These guys at in whatever
• 1:08:00
  position they're in in the front office obviously know more than
• 1:08:02
  we do. But dude, I'm just saying this
• 1:08:05
  is setting a weird precedent. I want to go back.
• 1:08:08
  You just gave me an idea. I'm going to be bored this week,
• 1:08:12
  so I'm going to go back and listen to some old episodes from
• 1:08:15
  the first year. I'm going to go back to 2018.
• 1:08:18
  Just try to find names that like we.
• 1:08:19
  I'm going to find names who I'm like, who is this bomb that
• 1:08:23
  they're giving 150 mil to, And then it's like a perennial All
• 1:08:28
  Star love that I'm going to, I'm going to go, I'm going.
• 1:08:31
  To go dig. Around and see if I can find
• 1:08:33
  something. Yeah, who knows?
• 1:08:37
  We'll see. We will see the Nationals and
• 1:08:41
  Marlins uniform updates real quick.
• 1:08:45
  Any thoughts on that? Did you have a chance to see
• 1:08:47
  those by chance? I hate that the Nationals are
• 1:08:52
  ditching cursive. What's that about?
• 1:08:55
  They're not ditching them. So I don't know if you saw but
• 1:08:59
  there, which was a wild move in and of itself, but I think in
• 1:09:03
  order to because I think there's like a a cap like a limit for.
• 1:09:07
  Yeah, that's what I thought, OK, so after this year, they're
• 1:09:12
  dropping the cherry blossom munis.
• 1:09:14
  I don't know if you saw that, which is wild.
• 1:09:19
  Mixed emotions on that. I'll mixed emotions on that.
• 1:09:23
  I'm low key. That's one of my favorites.
• 1:09:26
  I know not a lot of people agree.
• 1:09:28
  That's fine. I don't care.
• 1:09:30
  I like them. Oh, I thought that would fix my
• 1:09:33
  computer charger. Why is my computer not charging?
• 1:09:36
  Dead. No, don't say that.
• 1:09:39
  You're. All right, share your emotions
• 1:09:42
  on the jerseys while I get this figured out.
• 1:09:44
  I I just like it. The Marlins one I didn't even
• 1:09:47
  see. So he's leaving me right now and
• 1:09:50
  I have to look this up. Marlins uniform.
• 1:09:57
  What's what's new? This doesn't look new.
• 1:10:08
  Looks the same to me. What did we change?
• 1:10:19
  This looks the same, the font. So it's all it's all white and
• 1:10:28
  the borders kind of in and out. Good thing that ADT patch is on
• 1:10:33
  the shoulder though. close call there.
• 1:10:38
  I mean the blue one is, are we talking about the blue ones?
• 1:10:40
  The black ones look the same. Oh, we already switched up to
• 1:10:44
  the Marlins. Yeah, hold on.
• 1:10:46
  Let me let me finish my thought here on the Nets.
• 1:10:49
  I didn't cover the Nets at all. Thought that's thought that's
• 1:10:53
  what we were talking about. Yeah.
• 1:10:54
  So they're dropping the cherry blossoms after next year and
• 1:10:58
  they introduced, I'm sure everyone's seen it by now.
• 1:11:01
  They're introducing the pullover style white unis, which kind of
• 1:11:08
  crazy. It's got the capital with the
• 1:11:13
  West kind of throwback logo on there on the chest or on the on
• 1:11:18
  the. Oh, like the.
• 1:11:20
  PEC area, so it's off to the side and it's pullover, so kind
• 1:11:25
  of interesting. Blue sleeves, white uni.
• 1:11:28
  I don't like the neck. The the neck is close.
• 1:11:33
  Yeah. But it the weird like not V This
• 1:11:37
  is like a girly V-neck going on. Yeah, not a fan.
• 1:11:42
  It's a deep V and the road unis I hate could not hate more.
• 1:11:50
  Just the most bland generic block font arched across the
• 1:11:55
  front. Washington, these will be
• 1:12:00
  dropped. I'll go ahead and say I'll make
• 1:12:03
  a bold prediction these I'll say the Grays, the white ones.
• 1:12:09
  I feel like they may try to push a little longer than a year.
• 1:12:13
  Greys will be gone after next year or some some tweak will be
• 1:12:18
  made because these are not it and I don't know who thought
• 1:12:23
  over it. Nats HQ thought that these were
• 1:12:28
  it 'cause they're not the greys. No, not it at all.
• 1:12:32
  Yeah. And then Greys for sure.
• 1:12:33
  I like they had the IT was just solid red cursive on the greys,
• 1:12:39
  right? Yeah, with the white, the white
• 1:12:43
  outline of. I was a fan of those.
• 1:12:45
  Of Washington. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:49
  This is. Stupid.
• 1:12:51
  Yeah, and then in the same conversation, like, oh, not only
• 1:12:54
  are we going to introduce these, we're going to drop the the
• 1:12:57
  jersey that the fans love the most seem, well, minus the the
• 1:13:03
  blue cursive ones that they got. But yeah, not a not a fan.
• 1:13:07
  The Marlins, the blue ones are sweet.
• 1:13:12
  I do like the blue ones. And I like that they they they
• 1:13:16
  whited out the text on the front of the black ones because nobody
• 1:13:20
  could read it before that, so. That's what happened to the
• 1:13:23
  black ones. Yeah, they just filled in the
• 1:13:25
  text with with white, because if you remember, it was like it was
• 1:13:30
  like that weird black. Yeah, it.
• 1:13:34
  Was like the blue outline. Whatever.
• 1:13:37
  Nothing really on it. This is also, I don't, I don't
• 1:13:41
  know if you had a note the honorable mention about the
• 1:13:43
  Yankees away jerseys. Did you see that?
• 1:13:45
  Oh, true. Yeah.
• 1:13:46
  Going back to the older style, I love it.
• 1:13:51
  You do. I don't really care that much.
• 1:13:53
  I kind of like the sleeve boarders I'm a fan of.
• 1:13:56
  Those I I I think I'm going to like the this minor tweak and it
• 1:14:02
  was whole layer it. I hate to say it my friend, but
• 1:14:05
  a lot of your fellow Yankee fans quote, UN quote, UN quote,
• 1:14:10
  really outing themselves as to just how far back their
• 1:14:15
  knowledge of their favorite team goes.
• 1:14:18
  Because they're like, why are they going back to the field of
• 1:14:22
  dream style like this isn't it bro?
• 1:14:25
  I'm like, well, I'm gonna go ahead and break the new shade
• 1:14:29
  that this goes back a little further than the Field of
• 1:14:32
  Dreams. Yeah, like 100 years.
• 1:14:33
  Yeah, Just give or take. Yeah.
• 1:14:36
  So that's where we're at with that.
• 1:14:39
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:14:40
  Talk to Unis. That about does it, except for
• 1:14:46
  some unbreakable records. Talk real quick before we get
• 1:14:48
  out of here on deck for today. Finding the drum roll button.
• 1:14:58
  There we go. Boom.
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  Cy Young career wins. Yeah, maybe I should put you on
• 1:15:09
  the soundboard. Cy Young career wins this I
• 1:15:17
  texted you today dude. This is comical.
• 1:15:19
  This is comical career. Hall of Famer.
• 1:15:22
  Triple Crown winner, 19 O3 World Series champion two time ERA
• 1:15:26
  title winner. He had a war accumulated war of
• 1:15:30
  163.6. The record that we are getting
• 1:15:33
  into 511 wins, 315 losses, which is a record in and of itself as
• 1:15:39
  well. The losses.
• 1:15:40
  Had a three or three. Yes, he had 315 losses in 19 O
• 1:15:46
  3. No his career.
• 1:15:48
  OK, his chicken chicken. Yeah, I mean, that was a
• 1:15:52
  legitimate question. He probably made 315 starts
• 1:15:56
  right in 19 O3, but this is his career career ERA of 263.
• 1:16:03
  He's he made 906 appearances 800 and fifteens of those were
• 1:16:08
  starts, which I also believe is an all time record.
• 1:16:12
  He had 18 saves, which was new to me.
• 1:16:15
  I I have no idea. Cy Young tallied the saves
• 1:16:18
  category. He notched 7356 innings, 2803 KS
• 1:16:26
  WHIP of 1.1, three O 511 wins. Most all time.
• 1:16:39
  Second in line. Walter Johnson with 417, So
• 1:16:44
  nearly 100 more wins than the next in line.
• 1:16:48
  Yeah. And the crazy thing about it is
• 1:16:51
  it's not like a modern name. We're not talking like, oh,
• 1:16:54
  Randy Johnson is second in line. Yeah.
• 1:16:56
  So like maybe somebody's close. No, Walter Johnson.
• 1:17:00
  Yeah, Old Walt neck, old old Walt, old big train next in line
• 1:17:05
  at #2. Do you know who #3 is?
• 1:17:12
  Should I know? You should, if you're a fan of
• 1:17:18
  old timey baseball. No, you you you won't know this
• 1:17:21
  all. Right.
• 1:17:22
  That's cool. Move along.
• 1:17:24
  Grover, Cleveland Alexander. No.
• 1:17:27
  Christy Mathewson also tied, also tied for third.
• 1:17:32
  All right, you should definitely know who #5 is coming in a 365
• 1:17:36
  wins. Who's number 5?
• 1:17:38
  365 Greg Maddox No idea. So close PUD.
• 1:17:45
  Galvin PUD PUD. I didn't think Old PUD PUD
• 1:17:51
  Grandpa PUD. What a dope name.
• 1:17:58
  So as I kind of alluded to, some of these numbers that he he
• 1:18:02
  accumulated were also records. Pitched more innings, started
• 1:18:04
  more games and completed more games than anyone else in big
• 1:18:10
  league history. Did you know he played?
• 1:18:12
  This was Wild. Did you know he played for a
• 1:18:15
  team called the Saint Louis Perfectos?
• 1:18:20
  That's pretty cool. He also got to play for the
• 1:18:22
  Cleveland Spiders, played for the Cleveland Naps and the
• 1:18:26
  Boston Rustlers. You know the old wrestlers.
• 1:18:32
  Did you say the naps? Cleveland Naps.
• 1:18:35
  Naps, Yes. Now that's a team that I can get
• 1:18:40
  on board. With, it's not.
• 1:18:43
  It's not what you think it was. Named after It was named after.
• 1:18:47
  What's his name? I can never pronounce it.
• 1:18:52
  Oh my gosh. I want you to try Luis Arias.
• 1:18:58
  No. What was that dude's name?
• 1:19:07
  Nap. Is it Nap?
• 1:19:08
  Lahoy LAJO i.e. I mean, he's like one of the
• 1:19:14
  talking Cleveland baseball. He's like one of the one of the
• 1:19:17
  guys from that franchise. But I can never pronounce the
• 1:19:20
  name. Forgive me.
• 1:19:22
  His first name is Nap. Yeah, they named, they named the
• 1:19:25
  team after him because he, I think he was a player manager.
• 1:19:31
  And bro just comes in and he's like, I think this team is going
• 1:19:33
  to be named after me now. I think this is my team now.
• 1:19:37
  I'm the captain now. Yeah, that's pretty much what
• 1:19:39
  happened. Do you think naps were super
• 1:19:41
  common back then? Do you think there were confused
• 1:19:43
  fans in the crowd? I've seen a lot of promotional
• 1:19:49
  ideas here, you know what I mean?
• 1:19:50
  Bring your pillow to the modern. Modern day, sure, but I'm I I
• 1:19:54
  think they had like 22 hour work days back in the day.
• 1:19:57
  So I don't I venture to say naps were not as as common place as
• 1:20:02
  they are now. Yeah, sleeping bag.
• 1:20:05
  Thanks to labor laws, I'm. A huge fan of this.
• 1:20:07
  Let's bring this back. Change it to the yeah, the
• 1:20:11
  Washington naps instead of the Nats we're in.
• 1:20:15
  Boom. That's a money maker right
• 1:20:18
  there, all right, Getting into this record because it's it's
• 1:20:20
  insane. For 19 straight years he was in
• 1:20:28
  the top ten in his league for numbers of for number of innings
• 1:20:32
  pitched. He led the league in victories
• 1:20:35
  on five occasions, 18921895 and from nineteen O 1 to 19 O3 In
• 1:20:40
  1892 he reached a career high and wins with 36.
• 1:20:48
  Dude, that's pretty nuts. You don't even see 36 starts
• 1:20:53
  anymore. He also pitched the first
• 1:20:56
  perfect game of the 20th century.
• 1:21:01
  He had three no hitters, but in regards to this record, he for
• 1:21:05
  an MLB pitcher to win five. This is like my favorite part of
• 1:21:08
  doing this mini series is putting it in perspective of
• 1:21:11
  like what somebody would have to do now.
• 1:21:13
  Sure, for an MLB pitcher to win 500 games, 11 short of Cy
• 1:21:19
  Young's record, he would have to pit.
• 1:21:22
  He would have to win 25 games a year for twenty seasons.
• 1:21:27
  Yeah. The last player, the last player
• 1:21:31
  to win 25 games in a season was Bob Welch of the Oakland A's in
• 1:21:35
  1990. The win is already dead and.
• 1:21:41
  Yeah, I mean, I. So was Simon's arm, but win
• 1:21:45
  number? Without a doubt.
• 1:21:48
  No, I I mean, I bring this up knowing that the win is is.
• 1:21:53
  Yeah. Beyond.
• 1:21:55
  Well, beyond the way out the door, but I just, it's still a
• 1:21:59
  record that I think needs to be talked about because when you
• 1:22:01
  really sit down and look at it, 511 wins.
• 1:22:06
  Yeah. That's just insane.
• 1:22:09
  That's just insane. So you know, good on Psy.
• 1:22:14
  Think he was using any spider tack or anything?
• 1:22:18
  Had some greenies in the clubhouse.
• 1:22:20
  I would venture to say that, you know, if there was some
• 1:22:23
  variation of spider attack back in the day, I mean he did play
• 1:22:26
  for the Cleveland Spiders. So you, I mean you talk like
• 1:22:28
  promotional items, maybe they were sponsored by spiders?
• 1:22:31
  Probably, right? But back then, I feel like the
• 1:22:33
  center fielder used to rock a cigar in his mouth in the middle
• 1:22:36
  of the game. It's just a different time, you
• 1:22:40
  know. Different era of bowl.
• 1:22:42
  Was Vaseline even created at that point?
• 1:22:45
  Could they even use that? Dude, Vaseline has to be like
• 1:22:49
  200 years old. Yeah, you're probably right.
• 1:22:53
  When was bet you didn't expect this to be a topic of discussion
• 1:22:57
  today? When was Vaseline invented?
• 1:23:00
  Followed up with What is Vaseline?
• 1:23:03
  Dude, Saigon was definitely using Vaseline 1870.
• 1:23:08
  Oh yeah, and it's fresh on the market too.
• 1:23:11
  Oh yeah, you know, they're they're handing that out on
• 1:23:14
  street corners. They're like, let's get this in
• 1:23:17
  the hands of these ball players down the street.
• 1:23:20
  How about that? See what magic of Vaseline you
• 1:23:24
  see? You're saying?
• 1:23:25
  I got this two cents. Had little jar save up all week
• 1:23:31
  for this. I had to save up all week to.
• 1:23:34
  To fork over this penny for this little jar of petroleum Jelly.
• 1:23:37
  You see? Petroleum dude.
• 1:23:42
  Oh for. Sure, dude, did we just stumble
• 1:23:44
  across one of the untold conspiracies of?
• 1:23:48
  I think so. What a wild time.
• 1:23:51
  You know what I mean? What a wild time.
• 1:23:53
  I bet guys were like sliding into bags and being like, oh,
• 1:23:59
  that scar that's that's hurting from the Civil War.
• 1:24:02
  I had a bayonet shoved in my leg couple years ago.
• 1:24:05
  Let me clean that sliding in the.
• 1:24:07
  Bourbon that I've got in my back pocket like.
• 1:24:09
  Yeah, dude, just busting out of Flask.
• 1:24:13
  Meanwhile, Cy Young is just throwing out freaking bowling
• 1:24:16
  balls game after game. Let's look up that roster.
• 1:24:26
  I'll look it up right now, there's. 3 pitchers on the
• 1:24:28
  entire team. All right, let's look up his
• 1:24:31
  World Series team. Or no, let's look up.
• 1:24:34
  Hold on, this will be the last thing we do before we get out of
• 1:24:36
  here. Cy Young stats.
• 1:24:39
  So his first season, it's so funny to me that Baseball
• 1:24:43
  Reference has these things. Like, why do we have stats from
• 1:24:45
  1890? Yeah, all right, so 1890 played
• 1:24:49
  for the Cleveland Spiders. He went nine and seven, had a
• 1:24:52
  347. Let's pull up the 1890.
• 1:24:55
  Pretty average year. Sigh. 9 dubs.
• 1:24:58
  What a scrub. And you wanted a a an award
• 1:25:03
  named after you was pretty. Vaseline.
• 1:25:06
  He was this. He was one of two Hall of
• 1:25:08
  Farmers on the 1890 Spiders. Sure, sure, George Davis.
• 1:25:13
  That could be anybody. That could be.
• 1:25:18
  That's insane. No chance.
• 1:25:21
  You could give me a million guesses.
• 1:25:25
  No chance. I'm guessing George Davis as a
• 1:25:28
  Hall of Famer, yeah. What were we trying to figure
• 1:25:33
  out? Oh, pitchers.
• 1:25:34
  The roster I just want to see the roster all.
• 1:25:38
  Right, so get this. 12 man roster.
• 1:25:42
  What is the number here? Games in line up or announces
• 1:25:45
  pitcher. All right, so how many how many
• 1:25:48
  pitchers do you think, on average, A-Team goes through in
• 1:25:51
  a year in the season? Now, today or back then?
• 1:25:55
  Today. So you carry, you typically
• 1:26:02
  carry what, like 13? I was, yeah, Some.
• 1:26:08
  I was 13. 14 teen between like September call UPS.
• 1:26:15
  Spot starts a limit. Of 14 pitchers.
• 1:26:20
  Let me say 4040 on average, maybe even 50.
• 1:26:26
  You want to know how many? So, according to Baseball
• 1:26:29
  Reference, sure. From the 1890 Cleveland Spiders.
• 1:26:36
  The number of name? The number of players that
• 1:26:39
  appeared in a lineup or were announced as a pitcher, 11 the
• 1:26:51
  whole year. That's insane.
• 1:26:54
  The whole year. That's nuts and you want to
• 1:26:59
  know. You want to know who is leading
• 1:27:01
  the charge for the 1890 Cleveland Spiders?
• 1:27:04
  It wasn't so young, I can tell you that it was.
• 1:27:08
  Ed Beaton, born in 1866, made 54 appearances for the Cleveland
• 1:27:17
  Spiders at age 23. Let's.
• 1:27:20
  Go Ed at the ripe old age of 23. Probably had like 6 years left
• 1:27:25
  to live. Poor guy.
• 1:27:29
  No, he made it to 58. Man.
• 1:27:36
  You want to know, Ed? I love going down this rabbit
• 1:27:38
  hole. You want to know Ed Beaton's
• 1:27:39
  full name is. Please.
• 1:27:42
  Ebenezer Ambrose Beaton. Yes, hit me with the Ebenezer.
• 1:27:48
  Absolutely. Let's have it.
• 1:27:51
  Absolutely. Ebenezer passed me all that.
• 1:27:55
  He made jaw of petroleum Jelly. We could do a full skit.
• 1:28:00
  I would love that. That should be like a that
• 1:28:02
  should be a a bonus pod. Yes, scallywag.
• 1:28:06
  Pass that over, Ebenezer. He made 54 starts, 53 were
• 1:28:12
  complete games. What?
• 1:28:17
  What? That's awesome. 54 starts and 53
• 1:28:25
  complete games. Perfect we.
• 1:28:29
  May have to bust out. We may have to bust out some
• 1:28:32
  some baseball history. Again, this is crazy.
• 1:28:35
  Yeah, we it's we're due. We need to get back.
• 1:28:37
  It's been a while, yeah. Modern day baseball is is is
• 1:28:41
  boring. It's kind of boring right now.
• 1:28:43
  We need to bust out some. Yeah, I need some Ebenezers and
• 1:28:47
  PUD's in my life more often. How about that?
• 1:28:52
  Great, Great. Last thing before we get out of
• 1:28:56
  here, any prediction on who they're announcing?
• 1:28:58
  I mean, based on your listen to this, they're announcing the MLB
• 1:29:02
  The Show cover on Tuesday the 30th.
• 1:29:05
  Any prediction on who do you think it's going to be?
• 1:29:08
  For the record, we're recording this Monday night, the 29th So
• 1:29:17
  My Bet's Akunya. I think that's a very safe bet.
• 1:29:22
  I think that's a very safe bet. Dang, I'm stuck.
• 1:29:33
  I mean, let's be honest, anything's probably going to be
• 1:29:35
  a bump up from jazz from last year, right?
• 1:29:37
  I mean, come on, that was a little bit of a mess.
• 1:29:39
  It's OK. It's all right.
• 1:29:41
  Nothing. But love for jazz but.
• 1:29:42
  Yeah. Got to redeem ourselves here, I
• 1:29:45
  think. Shohei's already been on it.
• 1:29:46
  Judge has already been on it. Julio's already been on it.
• 1:29:51
  Bryce has been on it, I think. Ronnie Baseball.
• 1:29:54
  'S a good pick. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:59
  Maybe I I not that I would vote for this, but maybe like a Pete
• 1:30:04
  Alonzo no. Right.
• 1:30:08
  I mean, coming off of his 2023, why wouldn't you go Acuna?
• 1:30:12
  I mean, that's this got to be the easiest pick in history, no?
• 1:30:17
  Give me Lord Farquaad. Give me a Corbin Byrne or Corbin
• 1:30:21
  Carroll. Carroll That's AI like that.
• 1:30:23
  Cover. That'd be fun.
• 1:30:26
  I like that pic. Lord Farquaad, I think you need.
• 1:30:30
  I think. I think you need a little more
• 1:30:32
  substance. I think you need a little.
• 1:30:34
  Man, is that a short. Joke.
• 1:30:38
  No, it's not a short joke. I'm serious.
• 1:30:41
  Because Corbett, we love Gordon Carroll on this podcast.
• 1:30:44
  But there's you run the risk of that turning into like another
• 1:30:47
  jazz situation where it kind of, you know he he flames out next
• 1:30:51
  year and has to pick himself back up the following year.
• 1:30:54
  You need a guy that you can fully count on.
• 1:30:56
  It's. Give me an Adolis Garcia just
• 1:31:04
  zoomed in on his bicep. You don't even see his face.
• 1:31:07
  He's just flexing. It's a blue jersey, bunch of
• 1:31:10
  tats. And you're like, I think that's
• 1:31:12
  a Dulles. That'll do it.
• 1:31:18
  Perfect three hours later. Three hours later.
• 1:31:22
  Anybody that hang hung on this long, You must be single.
• 1:31:27
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• 1:31:35
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• 1:31:40
  from us. We should mix in a little
• 1:31:41
  giveaway or something. We'll something for that.
• 1:31:43
  What do you think? Yeah, we'll think on it.
• 1:31:45
  Maybe we'll think on it and have an announcement next week for a
• 1:31:48
  little. Giveaway, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:49
  Also, we need to get to a change up.
• 1:31:51
  You're right, we're going to mix that in.
• 1:31:53
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• 1:31:56
  you'll hear from us talking ball next week.
• 1:32:00
  You got it. Good stuff, Ebenezer.
• 1:32:06
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