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Ken Rosenthal Reflects On Brewers Title, Examines Free Agents + Corey Knebel Celebrates On Parade Day! · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: It's the Inside Scoop presented by Lids. Ken Rosenthal back
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  Speaker 1: from the World Series. FT Senior Insider joining us right now. Ken,
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  Speaker 1: good to see you. And we'll get to all the
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  Speaker 1: other happenings around baseball, but just a couple minutes to
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  Speaker 1: start here on your World Series experience since it's the
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  Speaker 1: first time we're chatting with you. How was it, the
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  Speaker 1: scene with these baby market teams and Milwaukee just doing
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  Speaker 1: something that was so cool for the state of Wisconsin
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  Speaker 1: and Brewers fans?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's so much to talk about here, but The
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  Speaker 2: first thing I will mention is after the clincher, I'm
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  Speaker 2: standing on the field. This is during the ceremony when,
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  Speaker 2: of course, they're awarding the trophy and all that. And
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  Speaker 2: I turn around and I look in the stands. And
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  Speaker 2: I know you guys were just talking about this on
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  Speaker 2: the break. The entire lower deck, it seemed, was Brewers fans.
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  Speaker 3: I could not believe it. And it was a good
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  Speaker 3: portion of the upper deck as well.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it might not have been the entire lower deck,
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  Speaker 2: but the vast majority of people watching and cheering the
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  Speaker 2: ceremony were Brewers fans.
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  Speaker 3: And the way they.
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  Speaker 2: Showed up at American Family Field for the watch parties,
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  Speaker 2: of course, for the games themselves in Milwaukee, and then
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  Speaker 2: the traveling to St.
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  Speaker 3: Petersburg, it was stunning to me. It was so cool.
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  Speaker 2: And Obviously, it was their first World Series in 44 years,
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  Speaker 2: the first one for the Milwaukee Brewers that they've ever won.
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  Speaker 3: But man, it was just such a scene.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that was part of what made this so special.
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  Speaker 2: The other part of what made it so special was
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  Speaker 2: the Brewers team and the franchise itself. And what they've
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  Speaker 2: accomplished as a team playing in the smallest media market
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  Speaker 2: in the sport, a team that one in what now
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  Speaker 2: must be considered an unconventional way from an offensive standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: a team that has built so well through the draft,
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  Speaker 2: through trades, through the international market.
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  Speaker 3: It just was a stunning achievement.
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  Speaker 2: It was a very likable team, a very captivating team
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  Speaker 2: to watch the way they went about it, the old
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  Speaker 2: school throwback style, whatever you want to call it. It's
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  Speaker 2: a heavy analytical team, but they play in a way
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  Speaker 2: that is not in line with the current trends of
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  Speaker 2: from an offensive standpoint, in analytics. So for all of
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  Speaker 2: these reasons, it was just such a fun World Series.
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  Speaker 2: And then you had the players themselves. Pratt and Churio,
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  Speaker 2: two young stars emerging.
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  Speaker 3: Churio, potential superstar.
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  Speaker 2: William Contreras, playing like a demon. Jacob Mizorowski, fighting through
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  Speaker 2: obvious fatigue and still pitching like an ace. All of
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  Speaker 2: these different things. Aaron Ashby, every contributor that they had,
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  Speaker 2: seemed to have a different story. And I just loved
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  Speaker 2: the team, loved watching them, not to diminish the race,
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  Speaker 2: loved watching them too. And they had their own great
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  Speaker 2: stories and they had their own great season. But in
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  Speaker 2: the World Series, the Brewers were clearly the better team
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  Speaker 2: and they clearly were the best team in baseball over
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  Speaker 2: the course of the season. So just congratulations to them.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations to Milwaukee. The parade was today.
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  Speaker 3: It looked awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Just a really cool outcome ending to the season.
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  Speaker 4: One more with the fans of the Brewers. Have you
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  Speaker 4: ever seen fans in all the World Series you've been
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  Speaker 4: to not show up to this level, but was there
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  Speaker 4: one that was close? Because I said the other day,
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  Speaker 4: it's like you're on the road. There's like four sections
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  Speaker 4: of fans that are cheering and nothing else when that's happening.
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  Speaker 2: If I recall correctly, Eric, Game 7 in 2016, probably
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  Speaker 2: Game 6 too, Cubs-Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: Those games were in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: It seemed that there was a sizable difference contingent from
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  Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs fans, at least, who were at those games
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  Speaker 2: in Cleveland. But it wasn't like this. The Brewers players
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  Speaker 2: said this was almost like playing at home. It was
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  Speaker 2: like a home atmosphere. It wasn't like that at, excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: Progressive Field. It was at very best, I don't know, 60, 40, 70,
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  Speaker 2: 30 Cleveland. But that was a sizable contingent. I never
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  Speaker 2: recall seeing anything like this. This happens in the regular
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  Speaker 2: season sometimes in different locations. I know in Baltimore when
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  Speaker 2: I was living there, Yankee fans would come down.
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  Speaker 3: They still do.
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  Speaker 2: And Red Sox fans, because sometimes it's cheaper to go
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  Speaker 2: to Orioles games in Baltimore than it is to go
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  Speaker 2: to Yankee games or Red Sox games in their home parks.
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  Speaker 2: But this was a playoff atmosphere, and it was stunning
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  Speaker 2: to see just how the Milwaukee fans took over the place. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: My question is about the whole trade that didn't happen, blah, blah, blah,
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  Speaker 4: with your great article talking about Matt Arnold's reaction to
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  Speaker 4: that kind of thing. We know now what happened. We
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  Speaker 4: know that they didn't trade for Scruble. They had the
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  Speaker 4: package together. Was there worry from Matt Arnold in that
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  Speaker 4: moment that he made the wrong choice to not give
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  Speaker 4: in to Scott Harris's demands of the prospects?
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  Speaker 3: I think there's always worry.
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  Speaker 2: And there's always concern when you don't make a trade
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  Speaker 2: or do make a trade that maybe I didn't make
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  Speaker 2: the right decision.
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  Speaker 3: And certainly... They were involved in Scooble. They wanted Scooble.
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  Speaker 2: Andy McCullough from The Athletic reported what the package was,
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  Speaker 2: and it wasn't as strong in the Tigers' mind as
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers' was.
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  Speaker 3: The Dodgers had more pitching to offer.
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  Speaker 2: So we know the Brewers wanted Scooble, but at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, the Brewers, and I give them a ton
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  Speaker 2: of credit on this, they have consistently, over the years,
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  Speaker 2: followed their inner beliefs, if you want to call it that.
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  Speaker 2: They have stayed true to who they are. And they
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  Speaker 2: did this amid criticism from guys like me when they
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  Speaker 2: weren't spending, when they weren't doing certain things, when they
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  Speaker 2: were trading off pieces.
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  Speaker 3: And yet they never deviated.
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  Speaker 2: They never said, you know what, we're going all in
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  Speaker 2: or whatever you want to phrase it, however you want
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  Speaker 2: to phrase it. They stuck to what they thought was right.
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  Speaker 2: And how it relates to Scooble is they felt that
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  Speaker 2: they could go Only so far.
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  Speaker 3: Now, they went far in their minds.
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  Speaker 2: Luis Pena is the top 20 prospect in the game,
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  Speaker 2: and the others involved.
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  Speaker 3: Were pretty fair players, too.
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  Speaker 2: There were a number of proposals that they made to
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  Speaker 2: the Tigers, some that involved pitching. But in the end,
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  Speaker 2: they could not do Logan Henderson.
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  Speaker 3: And you can understand why. Logan Henderson's five more years
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  Speaker 3: of control. He's really good.
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  Speaker 2: You're doing that for two months at Tarek Skubal if
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  Speaker 2: you're the Milwaukee Brewers? No, you're not doing that. Dodgers
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  Speaker 2: have all these pitchers signed. They have other pitchers coming,
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  Speaker 2: and they had River Ryan, who.
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  Speaker 3: Was often injured. They felt they could give him up.
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  Speaker 3: Different equation.
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  Speaker 2: But what's so inspiring about this season is that for
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  Speaker 2: all the reaction after the school bowl trade, I called
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  Speaker 2: it the anti-Dodger hysteria. For all the things that people
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  Speaker 2: were talking about, the Brewers still were the best team,
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  Speaker 2: still best.
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  Speaker 3: Over the course of the season, prove that time and again, and.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, in the end, won the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: So this is how I'm going to take us to
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  Speaker 1: free agency trades, all of that, right? The off-season conversation. Ken,
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned this the other day, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: dunk one more time because I love forward thinking.
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  Speaker 5: I love analytics.
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  Speaker 1: I want as big of a staff as possible, and
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  Speaker 1: the Brewers do all that. And I praise them. We
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  Speaker 1: just ripped the Twins for having, you know, getting rid
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  Speaker 1: of scouts and having the least in baseball, all that, right?
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  Speaker 1: On the other side here, I've been told publicly for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, if you don't hit enough home runs,
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  Speaker 1: you can't win. They were tied for 29th in home runs.
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  Speaker 1: The most ground ball, highest ground ball percentage in baseball,
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  Speaker 1: most opposite field knocks, right? Like all of these things
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  Speaker 1: that we were just told not to do for the
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  Speaker 1: past five years, pulled fly ball contact wins. So my
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  Speaker 1: question to you, First of all, let's dunk together because
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  Speaker 1: we should. You can't have it all. Oh, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Opposite field works, but you just have to hit it hard. Like, okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're just coming up with every way to hit a baseball.
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  Speaker 1: How does the league respond to this? Like, do other
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  Speaker 1: teams try and find this way that the Brewers are winning?
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  Speaker 3: It's a fascinating question. And I don't know the answer, Scott.
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  Speaker 2: And certainly, and I made this point in my wrap-up article, analytics,
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  Speaker 2: the original intent of analytics was what? to find market inefficiencies,
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  Speaker 2: to find ways to win that other teams were not pursuing.
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  Speaker 2: And that's obviously a smart thing.
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  Speaker 6: To do, right?
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  Speaker 3: Of course you want to do that.
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  Speaker 2: But over the years, in my opinion, and I know
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  Speaker 2: some people might disagree with this, what has happened is
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  Speaker 2: it's become kind of an analytics groupthink, which is the
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  Speaker 2: opposite of what analytics are supposed to be.
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  Speaker 5: So what's important?
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  Speaker 3: Pull-side power. Have to have pull-side power.
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  Speaker 2: Have to have power in general.
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  Speaker 3: Can't win in the postseason. without hitting home runs.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the Brewers hit three in the division series, seven
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  Speaker 2: against the Dodgers in the NLCS. That was not bad.
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  Speaker 2: And then three in the World Series. So obviously, after
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  Speaker 2: finishing tied for 28th in the regular season in home runs,
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  Speaker 2: you can win a World Series when you're not a
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  Speaker 2: power-based team. So yes, all of these things that some
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  Speaker 2: people preach, well, yeah, they're successful. Those are successful ways
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  Speaker 2: to go about it, but it's not the only way.
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  Speaker 2: And that to me, is the lesson of the 2026
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  Speaker 2: Milwaukee Brewers. There are other ways to win. And I'll
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  Speaker 2: make this point as well. One thing that has gotten
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  Speaker 2: lost over the years with the attention on velocity for pitchers,
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  Speaker 2: exit velocity for hitters, on swings, and on all of
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  Speaker 2: these different things, the subtleties of the game, the way
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  Speaker 2: to play the game correctly, the impact of playing hard,
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  Speaker 2: running the bases a certain way, playing defense a certain way,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of that has gotten somewhat submerged in terms
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  Speaker 2: of emphasis. Well, the Brewers really put an emphasis on
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  Speaker 2: all of those things, and they play the game in
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  Speaker 2: that sense. They have a culture that tolerates nothing less.
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  Speaker 2: And for me, that is what was so endearing about
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  Speaker 2: them that it's not that the other teams or teams
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  Speaker 2: that are power-based and focus on power pitching are playing
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  Speaker 2: the game incorrectly.
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  Speaker 3: But you tell me that this is A way that
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  Speaker 3: can't win?
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  Speaker 2: No. It's a way that can win if you max
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  Speaker 2: out in all of those areas, and they do.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it seemed like that. Of every piece together, I
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  Speaker 6: think you bring up a good point.
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  Speaker 7: It's that old school kind of feel, and a lot
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  Speaker 7: of people, especially, you know, the elder, I'm not saying elder,
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  Speaker 7: older people really flock to that and like, man, that's
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  Speaker 7: how I remember the game.
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  Speaker 3: It's enjoyable to watch, man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's fun to watch.
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  Speaker 6: I agree.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, 100%. let's move on to free agent frenzy, man.
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  Speaker 7: This is going to be very interesting. These next 30
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  Speaker 7: days or some days, there's a couple of guys in mind.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, think about a guy who's just fresh off
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  Speaker 7: the world series, Freddie Peralta. How about, how about him?
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  Speaker 7: What do you think about a guy like that? What
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  Speaker 7: do you think the next move?
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting, Todd, we were just talking about this on
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  Speaker 2: fair territory, which we just had. And there are two
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  Speaker 2: schools of thoughts, one in general on free agency, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll get to Peralta.
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  Speaker 3: The two schools of thought of this one is.
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  Speaker 8: We don't know what the economic landscape is going to
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  Speaker 8: be and we can't have our team spending money on
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  Speaker 8: players when we don't know what's going to happen, if
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  Speaker 8: there's going to be a cap, what the rules are
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  Speaker 8: going to be.
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  Speaker 3: We're just going to refrain. That could be one way
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  Speaker 3: teams look at this.
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  Speaker 2: The other way is, yeah, we don't know what the
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  Speaker 2: economic system is going to be, but we want players.
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  Speaker 2: The cap is not going to take effect right away.
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  Speaker 2: So let's get the players we can while we can
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  Speaker 2: and before that lockout takes effect on December 1st. I
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  Speaker 2: honestly think that teams will be active and teams will
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  Speaker 2: be looking to add guys. And Freddy Peralta is a
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  Speaker 2: classic example of a player who benefited from a change
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  Speaker 2: of teams and not only returned to form and regained
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  Speaker 2: his form, but became the best version of himself.
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  Speaker 3: That we've seen.
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  Speaker 2: He was throwing harder in the postseason than he had
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  Speaker 2: in his entire career, also incorporated a changeup. They made
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  Speaker 2: a number of different adjustments with him to elicit this
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  Speaker 2: kind of performance from him, and.
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  Speaker 3: It clearly worked.
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  Speaker 2: So now if you're a team looking at him, Todd,
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  Speaker 2: you're saying, okay, he's still really good.
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  Speaker 3: And you know how this works.
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  Speaker 2: All teams think they're smart. All teams think, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay got the most out of it.
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  Speaker 5: We can do the same.
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  Speaker 2: I expect he's going to do very well.
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  Speaker 4: Who is more active? When we look at trends, because
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  Speaker 4: that's how I try to figure out, okay, it could
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  Speaker 4: be this. Is there just going to be more active
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  Speaker 4: teams or more active agents when we look at each
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  Speaker 4: free agent? Like, oh, well, this agent usually waits, this
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  Speaker 4: agent usually... Are there trends in that case that we
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  Speaker 4: can look at? There is a little bit of a
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  Speaker 4: history here because we have 2022. And we know that in.
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  Speaker 2: 2022, let's use Scott Boris as an example because he
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  Speaker 2: had two of the biggest clients then. Corey Seeger and
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  Speaker 2: Marcus Simeon both signed right before the lockout. Now, it's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a different landscape now because a
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  Speaker 2: salary cap wasn't in play then. That wasn't something the
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  Speaker 2: owners were seeking. And now it is something they're seeking.
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  Speaker 2: So there might be more hesitance of teams to go
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  Speaker 2: forward when they, again, don't know what the rules are
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  Speaker 2: going to be. But Scott Boris, in general, if you
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  Speaker 2: look at his career, has liked to wait in certain
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  Speaker 2: cases and has taken guys into February in certain cases.
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  Speaker 2: He also, at certain times in his career, as he
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  Speaker 2: did right before the 2022 lockout, has jumped. And he's
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  Speaker 2: jumped on it quickly and looked for the best deal possible. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Freddy Peralta's agent is Aces, the group Aces. They're Sam
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  Speaker 2: and Seth Levinson out of New York.
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  Speaker 3: That's a group that generally.
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  Speaker 2: Has liked to act quickly in free agency and just
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  Speaker 2: kind of get things going. So in Peralta's case, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think he could go quickly. And in Skubal's case,
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  Speaker 2: he's represented by Boris. We have the examples of Seeger
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  Speaker 2: and Simeon Obviously, Scott Boris is going to want that
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  Speaker 2: record deal however it might look. And maybe he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get it. Maybe he does before the lockout. But I
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  Speaker 2: would expect that he would want to get something done
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  Speaker 2: before then if he can.
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  Speaker 5: Because it creates uncertainty.
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  Speaker 2: After the lockout, we don't know what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Here's another point here.
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  Speaker 3: I just thought of this.
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  Speaker 2: So let's say the lockout wipes out half of next season.
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  Speaker 2: Baseball is maybe not in as great a place as
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  Speaker 2: it is right now. And maybe the owners say, because
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  Speaker 2: they're always looking for ways to save money, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we ticked off our fans.
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  Speaker 8: They're not into it.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to pay Tarek Skubal what we might.
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  Speaker 3: Have paid him before.
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  Speaker 2: That possibility at least exists. I don't know that it
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  Speaker 2: would happen that way. So if I'm Boris with Skubal,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm really any agent with any prominent player, I'd
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  Speaker 2: like to get my money as quickly as I can
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  Speaker 2: before that lockout.
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  Speaker 6: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 4: Now I'm looking at the names of some of the
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  Speaker 4: position players, some of the best that are available, jazz players, Arise, Balm, Rosarena,
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  Speaker 4: and Seiya Suzuki are the ones that I'm thinking of.
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  Speaker 4: After we watch this series, how driving runs in really matters. Well,
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  Speaker 4: that helps Balm out. Seiya Suzuki is a guy who
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  Speaker 4: has power, but he also drives runs in. Do you
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  Speaker 4: feel like guys like Balm, who has not as much power,
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  Speaker 4: or Luisa Arise could get a little bit of a bump?
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  Speaker 4: in this free agency class because of the game we
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  Speaker 4: just saw? Or doesn't the game shift that much because
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  Speaker 4: it talks about paying, not winning?
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  Speaker 3: That's a great question, Eric.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not sure. Now, Boehm is a guy who, yes,
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  Speaker 2: does drive and runs. Is he a great offensive player?
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that he's a great offensive player.
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  Speaker 3: Good player. But does he get a.
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  Speaker 2: Benefit from what we just saw? I'm not so sure
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 5: Arai is.
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  Speaker 2: He always, or at least in the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 2: has struggled in free agency because of his lack of power,
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  Speaker 2: but he does the things that the Brewers value with
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  Speaker 2: the contact and all of that, and even the raise.
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  Speaker 2: The raise was thought to be interested in him before
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  Speaker 2: the deadline stuck with Palacios and Williamson.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, it worked out well for them.
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  Speaker 2: So, I don't know. I don't know that the views
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  Speaker 2: of players will change that much because of what we
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: just saw in the postseason. Rosa Reina, in my view,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: should do well because he kind of is a well-rounded
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: offensive player. Jazz is going to have difficulties, not so
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: much because of what he can do from a physical standpoint,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: but some of the questions that came up when he
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: was with the Yankees.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: All right, Ken, last one. This is not about baseball,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: but about the World Series. Mark, one of our executive
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: producers in the background, said he did the Cleveland Marlins
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: year when it was like 39 degrees in Cleveland all
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: the way down to like 90 degrees in Miami. This year,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: it made me think of it this year, wasn't as
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: cold in Milwaukee. Do you have a tough time staying
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: healthy when you're going from cold to hot to cold?
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: And I know they're indoors, but you guys are indoors
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: for a few hours of the day.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you do.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: And honestly... I always prefer climate control. It's easier to
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: work in that environment when it's cold and I'm standing
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: out there and it's three hours and it's 11 o'clock
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: at night and it's, I don't know, 40 degrees. It's
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: not the easiest way to talk on television and it's
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: not the easiest way to stay healthy either. But the
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: post-season is something that it's difficult to describe as far
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: as what it takes to do physically. And obviously I'm
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: not playing, I'm just talking and writing. But there's a
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: lot that goes into it. And it always seems that
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: every year I kind of break down physically at some point.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: And it's just unavoidable.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: It's a lot.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: It's a lot.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: And hold on.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I want to say one thing. I'm not complaining.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: No.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying, oh, my God, this is so hard
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: to do. I love it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I know everybody watching probably would love to do it
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: as well. It is an absolute privilege.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: It also is work.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: And it also, yes, I mean, I'm maybe not the
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: toughest guy in the world. So maybe that's why I'm
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: breaking down.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: And the sleep part, I think that's, that's a big
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: part of it. And I'm sure you don't sleep much.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And that's for that, for me, you know, and I
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: didn't do as much as you obviously, but when I
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: did my, my years of covering playoffs and being gone,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: basically all of October, I don't need much sleep, but
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: eventually if I'm getting three hours a night, every night,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I don't do a catch up day. Like it, it
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: does take a toll. You're just not going to be
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: as good as sharp as a week. So I think that's,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: that's a part of it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: So Ken, hopefully you get some rest now, kind of,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: although this month's going to be crazy. So good to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: see you.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Welcome back.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: And we'll catch you next week.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Thanks guys.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
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• 20:06
  Speaker 6: Corey, good to see you, and.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: How are the emotions when you're witnessing what you did
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: over the past few weeks, including the parade today?
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm still watching the parade right now, man.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, this has been watching all morning, been watching
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: all these games. It's been, it's incredible, man.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: It really is.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: And I know I'm not, I'm not there. I'm not
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: part of it, but in my heart, man, I just feel,
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: I feel like we've been a part of it. You know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: Kratz was the first one to say it too, that
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: NLCS celebration when they got our They got our names
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: on some of those champagne bottles, man. They didn't have
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: to do that. And it's just, this is what the
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: brewers do. This is what the city of Milwaukee, the
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: state of Wisconsin, it's what they do, man. It's just
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: one big happy family. And everyone's just been so excited,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: including the Knavels. All right.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: One of the people that was really excited was JP
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: on the JP Fire Rising, who's on your Brewers Territory
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: show together. can you get a sense from him what
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: the locals are feeling? Because that's what I talk about. Like,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I love the fact that Big Wu won, Yelly won, Murph,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Jason Lane, like guys that we were there with, and
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: that's the connections that I have. But you have connections
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: with all the fans. So through his thick Wisconsin accent
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: where he says big, can you feel what the fans
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: are feeling?
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: You can, man. It's not just KP, too. I mean, yeah,
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: he's part of it, but it's it's from his grandparents,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: from his parents, from his sisters, his cousins, his friends.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, Jana and Randy Fireheisen, JP's parents are just
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: some of the greatest like human beings you'll know. And,
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: and you can say that about so many people in
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Wisconsin in general, man, they're just good people. And they are,
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: they have been so excited. I mean, Jana sent me
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: a picture after and, It was their mom, or Randy's mom,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I think, who had passed away, and just one of
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: the biggest Brewers fans, biggest Bob Euchre fans, and just
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: seeing her saying she's all smiles from up above, just
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: like Euchre was. I mean, every text that... Murphy was
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: reading every, every, everybody's getting these texts, these messages from Euchre, man.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: And you're seeing just so many sprinkles from them all
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: over this state, all over these past two days. It's been,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: it's just been one huge party for everyone, man. So yeah,
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: it's just celebration is insane right now. It is one
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: of the.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Things, one of the things that since they won, you know,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: obviously we have some, We have some good banter back
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: and forth. Ryan Braun, he's like a team mascot now.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: If you were asked, and maybe you were asked, to
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: go and be in the parade, would you do it
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: as an ex-player?
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: They did ask. They sent me a message asking to
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: come be in the parade. I got a plus one.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, I went back and forth with it, man.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I'm sure... there's a lot of other guys in my position,
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: you know, that have been a part of Milwaukee. We've
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: been a part of some good teams and also I've
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: been a part of some pretty bad teams over there
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: in Milwaukee. So, you know, that's, Prince Fielder said it
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: the best man the other day is like, dude, this ain't,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: this ain't my moment, man. This is their moment.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I was a part of the team. This was decades ago.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: And I feel the same way, man. I mean, yeah,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I feel like I'm right there with them.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I love celebrating with them.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: I was at game one of the world series. It
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: was awesome. It was bad-ass. It was a pleasure to
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: be there with my wife, but this is their team, man.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: This is, They earned this. We didn't earn it. You know,
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: and we were there in 18. Our team was nasty, man.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Our bullpen was great. This bullpen was electric. These guys
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: earned it. And I'm not, I'm not, I'm not dissing
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: anybody that's there. I mean, yeah. Would I love to
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: be there celebrating partying with them?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: But I also don't want to take, I'm not going
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: to take me the moment away from them, but I
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: don't want to be there in that month. That's their moment.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: And That's the way I felt was let them have
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: their moment. You better believe I'm going to be watching
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: every step of the way, just like I have been.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: I love this team. I love this organization. I love,
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, the Atanasios, Matt Arnold, and love the state.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: Love my Packers too, man. It's just everything about this city,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: this state has been incredible to the Canables, to me
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: in general. But yeah, I'm happy being right here at
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: home watching this, man.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: That's so cool, man. You can hear the excitement in
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: your voice. Dude, this is it. Their first time doing it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: God bless, man. This is awesome. I'm happy for you, too.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: This is really cool.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: I want to talk about a certain player, Freddy Peralta, man.
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: Is there any chance this guy could get back there
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: and have another reunion.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: With the Brewers? What do you think about the chances there?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, look, it's hilarious you bring this up because
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: my wife just started talking to me about this right
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: before I came on. And she's like, gosh, I just,
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: I can't believe, you know, Freddie has been with the
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: org for how long, right? Eight years. And then the
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: one year he gets traded over. Now he's watching a
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: front row seat of his old team, getting a world
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: series championship. And the reason they trade them over, right.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Is because they don't want to be, have to pay them. That's,
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: that's what the brewers have been known to do.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: But look, man, I mean, Freddie's going to get paid.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: I think he's earned it, man, especially with that MVP,
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: the ALCS. How awesome, man. I mean, he earned that,
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: and he is going to earn every single penny. So,
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, look, man, somebody's going to have to cough
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: it up, and are the Brewers the one to do it, right?
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: You're probably looking at what it always is, the Dodgers,
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: the Yankees, and that's just how it has to be, man,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: but I know that, look, the Brewers love Freddie over there.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Freddie loved Milwaukee. He even said he loved Tampa, man.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: And Tampa and Milwaukee, as we all know, very similar
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: pitching performance teams. And, you know, the science, the pitching lab,
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: everything is very similar. So I think there's, it's not
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: out of the question, but there's a possibility he could
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: still have a comeback over to Milwaukee.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Scorry, I want you to look me in the eyes
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: and you can't lie to me.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Do you make the Lambeau leap like Sal Freelick did?
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Oh, 100%. Not a chance.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: What?
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: You are like the second least athletic pitcher I've ever
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: played with.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, I would have.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: You're saying physically, can I make it?
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Physically. Did you see?
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I think it was Miz.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Miz tried to get in there and do the leap.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: He had to. army crawl himself up that's why I
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: asked would I have wanted to do it yes would
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: I have done it I would have done the Miz 100%
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I'm getting up there but just give me a minute
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: give me a minute.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Corey would have looked like that old dog that's like
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: 15 years old used to sleep in your bed and
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: now they have a step they have a step for
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: the dog to get up into the stool Yeah, you
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: definitely would have needed that. But just talk about that moment.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Talk about the moment where Big Woo comes out. I
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: don't know. It was Yelly or Big Woo that was
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: going to bring the trophy. And out of the tunnel,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: when I saw that video, I got chills for my guy,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Big Woo, who probably hasn't lifted his arms above his
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: head that high in like three years.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: This is all wire.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Yes. I mean, I'm getting chills right now thinking about it, man.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, just, just, I mean, you said it best to,
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: you know, everything that, that Woodruff, there he is, man.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Everything that Woodruff has meant to the city, to the team,
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: what he's done, the adversity he's gone through, you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: we've all had those thoughts, right. Of our playing career of,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: you know, this might be it, right. You know, you,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: you always, there's thoughts in your head where this might
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: be it, but I'm going to keep going. And then,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, how many, how many of those thoughts has
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: Woody had over just, yeah, like you said, these past
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: three years, all the injuries he's gone through. And I
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: went through those injuries too.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Not, not like Woody.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: Cause I got to that point where I was, I just,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: I'm tired of, of this. I can't stay healthy and
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: nothing is, is it. And, and, and, I made the
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: decision to be done with it. And Woody has not
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: stopped fighting. And the fact that he was told, right,
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: that this is it, you know, you're going to have
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: to get your second surgery and it's not looking good.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: He battles those odds, doesn't get the surgery, comes back
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: and pitches in the World Series. So for him to
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: be holding the trophy, I mean, really, there was no
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: better guy to hoist that trophy at Lambeau to just
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: hoist the trophy man that guy yeah you know him
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: too man what a special human being amazing baseball player
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: yeah I love it man I do love the Woody's love.
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: The Woody yes that's great.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: I'm just looking ahead a little bit I hate doing
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: it but at the same time like how did they
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: get better next year? Like what, what, is there something
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: that you think like, okay, maybe they could be better
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: at this or, you know, what, what do you think
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: next year is something, or maybe in free agency, they're
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: going to, you know, try and look at to, to
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: kind of repeat.
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: Is there anything on your mind you think right now?
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, obviously there's always room for improvement in every,
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: every team, even, you know, even after this, you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Murphy's already thinking about spring training next year before the
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: world series even ended. Right. So, And I mean, look,
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I did talk to, you know, AJ Brown. I think, yeah,
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: crafts was on there too, you know, before spring training started,
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: or maybe it was right. Yeah. Right before the spring
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: training game started this year, you know, they're asking me
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: questions on, you know, what the team needs to do
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: this year. And I said, I'm so many ifs, right.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: You know, if Woody can stay healthy all year, if Mr.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Raskin goes down and has a Cy Young here, if
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: Yelly can come back to his old self, you know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: there's so many ifs and, and, And then if there
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: is these ifs, you know, we can be World Series champions.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: And all those ifs, they paid out, right? They panned out.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: And now you look at next year. I mean, yeah, obviously,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: hopefully Woody is back doing it again next year. But
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: if look, if we can keep. Taking momentum, taking those
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: games that we did this year and the bats. I mean,
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: that's not Brewers baseball, right? You know, going out, you know,
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Scott was talking about it earlier, getting those home runs.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: That's not what we do, right? Or not what the
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Brewers do. But look, we got everybody that's still here.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: There's so many guys under team control until, what, 2029, 2030.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: You got Yelly up until 29, Churrio, Ashby. There's still
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: plenty of guys in here to pass along this way
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: of Brewers baseball to keep going. And obviously there's going
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: to be some additions with D. May and Jake Bowers
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: probably going somewhere else. But I think JoJo too. But look,
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: there's not a lot that you got to change, right?
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: I think Murph says it best. When you come over
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: to Milwaukee, you come to this clubhouse, you just do...
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: what you do best, you're going to do what you
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: can do best. And we're going to show you the
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Brewers way. But I mean, obviously it's, it's whoever comes
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: over here has got to buy in. And I think this,
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: this team is going to be good for a long time.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: They're always going to be a threat in major league baseball,
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: no matter what, man.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: Corey, Corey Knable.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: You're a guy. You're one of my favorite. We appreciate
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: you coming on. And enjoy the rest of your... Hook'em Horns.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: They got Mississippi State this weekend. It's a big one
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: for you. Head to head, dude.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Bring your winning vibes everywhere right now, Corey. Just bring
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: it and sprinkle it all over all your favorite teams.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: But dude, great coverage all October long too.
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