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Free Agent Big Board w/Bowden: Kyle Tucker, Bo Bichette & more · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's going on here? JB for Front Office Unfiltered.
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Speaker 1: We've got the top three on the athletic big Board
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Speaker 1: that has not been signed yet. Ken Rosenthal or colleague
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Speaker 1: over there pointed out in here six of the top
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Speaker 1: nine not signed yet. I believe it's twenty of the
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Speaker 1: top fifty. We're about a month away from an early
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Speaker 1: spring training that's starting for the World Baseball Classic.
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Speaker 2: What's going to happen here?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So one thing we have to keep in mind
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Speaker 3: is when Juan Soto got seven hundred and sixty five
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Speaker 3: million from the Mets a year ago and Vladimir Guerrero
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Speaker 3: got five hundred million from the Blue Jays, there was
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Speaker 3: a lot of thought that those contracts would pull everybody up,
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Speaker 3: and what we've kind of found out is that's not
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Speaker 3: the case. They're being treated as an aberration, as one off.
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Speaker 3: So I think Kyle Tucker's representatives, led by Casey Close,
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Speaker 3: we're looking for ten to twelve years between four hundred
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Speaker 3: and five million based on the Guerrero signing, and I
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Speaker 3: think because of the injury, because of other factors, that
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Speaker 3: market is never developed or hasn't as of yet. With
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Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker, the other thing that's happened to Kyle Tucker
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Speaker 3: is the New York teams are not in on him.
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Speaker 3: You know, Yankees are chasing Bellinger. If they don't get Bellinger,
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Speaker 3: they're not going to pivot to Tucker. They don't believe that,
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Speaker 3: you know, how well handle New York. I've heard the
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Speaker 3: same thing about the Mets view of Kyle Tucker as well.
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Speaker 3: That takes two big markets out, so you know what
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Speaker 3: some of these agents are looking at.
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Speaker 2: You know, we had the Schwarber.
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Speaker 3: Sign the Alonso signing, but Bregman's not getting the long term.
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Speaker 2: Offer yet that he's looking for.
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Speaker 3: There are teams concerned abo Bishett in terms of you know,
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Speaker 3: not having the bat speed or the barrel percentage, some
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Speaker 3: of the analytics in terms of how he'll age even
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Speaker 3: though he's only twenty seven years old. So you have
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Speaker 3: a lot of different evaluation processes going on. You have
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Speaker 3: a lot of big contracts on the board. For example,
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Speaker 3: Dylan SE's got two hundred million from Toronto. That's what
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Speaker 3: fran Bervaldez was expecting. Franfra hasn't gotten that. Rangers Sworez.
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Speaker 3: You know, look, I think the Baltimorials are going to
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Speaker 3: probably end up signing him. They're working hard to do it,
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Speaker 3: but they're asking for a lot because he only has
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Speaker 3: seven hundred and sixty eight innings on his odometer arm.
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Speaker 3: He's very young, right in his twenties. Zach Gallen's coming
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Speaker 3: off the worst year of his career. What's the reason
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Speaker 3: for that? Mechanics, the pressure of the free agent year?
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Speaker 3: What is the solution there? So there's a lot of
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Speaker 3: issues with each of these guys, but I have no
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Speaker 3: problem with this dripping into January.
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Speaker 2: Like the Foul.
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Speaker 3: Territory ratings are going to continue to go up because
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Speaker 3: we have all these free agents out there, We're going
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Speaker 3: to have a month of great signings that are going
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Speaker 3: to be covered here as well as anybody in the sport.
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Speaker 2: So for all of us, this is great that it's
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Speaker 2: dragged on.
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Speaker 4: I agree, Jim. I just don't want to have producer
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Speaker 4: Lady makes them stupid. Where will Bo go? Or where
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Speaker 4: will Kyle go? You know front end where she has
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Speaker 4: the music that she loves to play, and they know
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Speaker 4: annoys the crap out of me. So I'm happy that
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Speaker 4: the signings drag on, right because the signings dragging on
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Speaker 4: are good because people are still talking baseball even though
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Speaker 4: it's NFL playoffs and NBA is in the middle of
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Speaker 4: the season in NHL and all this stuff is going on,
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Speaker 4: people are still talking about baseball and all these cities.
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Speaker 5: It is a good thing.
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Speaker 4: So I am tired of people saying, oh, we should
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Speaker 4: January first, there should be a signing deadline. Okay, let's
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Speaker 4: say January first is the signing deadline. And then one
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Speaker 4: of your guy your pitchers is thrown in the offseason,
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Speaker 4: goes oh, and there's Zach Gallan sitting out there. You
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Speaker 4: can't go signing because the signings have already happened. Like,
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Speaker 4: I'm against that. But what I want to know is
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Speaker 4: is we've talked Tucker, We've talked with Shit Bregman. We
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Speaker 4: think everyone kind of thinks he's gonna go back to
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Speaker 4: the to the Red Sox. But Cody Bellinger has been
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Speaker 4: in the news more than probably anybody that I've seen,
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Speaker 4: because it's like, is it just a New York battle
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Speaker 4: for Cody Bellinger? Is it just Mets Yankees? Because that's
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Speaker 4: what I keep seeing every time I look on my
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Speaker 4: social media. It's like the Mets won him, the Yankees
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Speaker 4: won him. Is it gonna be a big Apple battle
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Speaker 4: for Cody Bellinger.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think the Yankees have put a
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Speaker 3: value on him, They've made an offer on him. He's
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Speaker 3: been their priority this offseason. They're also in on Bobachett
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Speaker 3: as kind of the pivot if they don't get Bellinger,
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Speaker 3: because they feel their lineup is too left handed. They'd
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Speaker 3: like to get a right hand bat. And of course
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Speaker 3: Bashett could play second and Chisholm could get moved over
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Speaker 3: to third, or Chishm could get traded for that matter.
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Speaker 3: But Belly is a very important part of that team.
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Speaker 3: I don't think their soul on Jason Dominguez or Spencer
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Speaker 3: Jones at this point. So they've got Judge, They've got Grisham.
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Speaker 3: I think they would really like to have Belly. That
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Speaker 3: would protect him all over the outfield as well as
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Speaker 3: first base as well. I don't know who else is
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Speaker 3: in there. I mean, I have a hard time believing
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Speaker 3: David Stearns is going to give him the five year
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Speaker 3: deal he wouldn't give Pete Alonzo. I'm not sure how
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Speaker 3: that's how that's going to sell at the podium, to
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Speaker 3: be honest, there could be a mystery team on Bellinger,
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Speaker 3: but he might not want to go there. You know,
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Speaker 3: I've heard whispers about the Pittsburgh Pirates, who have had
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Speaker 3: a very good offseason improving their offense. Bellinger would be
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Speaker 3: a huge jump for them. I'm not hearing reunion with
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Speaker 3: the Dodgers, although I've heard that Bellinger would like to
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Speaker 3: go back if he doesn't end up in New York,
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Speaker 3: that LA would be a choice for him, But I
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Speaker 3: kind of think his first choice would be to stay
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Speaker 3: in New York. So I think that's why we really
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Speaker 3: haven't heard a lot after that. But again, the Bores
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Speaker 3: Corporation can be very under the radar. They love surprising
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Speaker 3: the media and the fans with last minute moves on
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Speaker 3: teams that never leaked out. So you know, we just
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Speaker 3: got to be patient and wait. In terms of Pregnant,
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's a slam Donkey goes back to Boston.
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Speaker 3: I do think both the Cubs and Diamondbacks are still
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Speaker 3: in there. And remember this, and you guys know this,
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Speaker 3: like everybody could have a similar offer on the table,
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Speaker 3: but only takes one owner, one president, one GM to
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Speaker 3: get out of a bed a certain way and say,
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Speaker 3: you know, what I'm going to do an extra year,
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Speaker 3: an extra thirty million, and I'm going to get the
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Speaker 3: player today.
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Speaker 2: That's all.
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Speaker 3: It takes sometime. So again, I don't think anything's a
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Speaker 3: slam dunk until it's officially announced or leaked to John Hayman.
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Speaker 5: One of the things I always knows about the catching market.
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Speaker 5: I like that joke. By the way I hit it.
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Speaker 5: I heard to laugh and I should have reacted better.
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Speaker 5: But what is JT real Mito's actual market? And does
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Speaker 5: it really matter? Because isn't he just going to go
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Speaker 5: back to the Phillies with whatever offer he gets and
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Speaker 5: then the Middletons are going to say, yes, we still
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Speaker 5: want you to be our guy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 3: It's hard to you guys know, it's hard to get
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Speaker 3: a pay cut, right. I mean a lot of us
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Speaker 3: have had to do it in our careers. It's never
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Speaker 3: fun to do it. It's harder to do that deal
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Speaker 3: when you know it's going to be cut. And when
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Speaker 3: you're thirty five years old and the numbers say you're
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Speaker 3: aging and declining, you can't deny it.
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Speaker 2: You're just not going to get paid at that level.
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Speaker 3: So you're still trying to get respectable contract, and so
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Speaker 3: you grind it out and you look at all the
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Speaker 3: different options. I think if he had a better option,
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Speaker 3: he would have taken it. I think he needs to
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Speaker 3: go back to the Phillies. I think the Phillies need
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Speaker 3: him as much as he needs the Phillies. I think
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Speaker 3: is a very important person on that team, with that
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Speaker 3: pitching staff that he knows so well. They have a
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Speaker 3: great relationship. He has a great relationship with Rob Thompson,
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Speaker 3: the manager. So you know, I think JT. But it's business,
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Speaker 3: you guys know, and you want your agents to grind.
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Speaker 3: You want to get This could be the last contract
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Speaker 3: he gets, right, it could be a two year deal
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Speaker 3: worth thirty six million, but the extra million or two,
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Speaker 3: you know, if this is the last time he works
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Speaker 3: in his life, possibly, you know, he wants it to
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Speaker 3: be as the biggest number that he can possibly get.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know what the other options are in
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Speaker 3: terms of trading. I know the Phillies have inquired about
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Speaker 3: other catchers on other teams. I've never heard any traction
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Speaker 3: on any deal that way, so I think it's something
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Speaker 3: we're monitoring. But if I had to guess, and it's
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Speaker 3: only a guess at some point he'll return to Philadelphia
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Speaker 3: on a one or two.
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Speaker 4: Year deal makes sense, and weah, what's one or two
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Speaker 4: more million for the contracts he's already signed. If he's
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Speaker 4: comfortable there, then go back and enjoy your time with
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Speaker 4: Kyle Schwarburn, Bryce Harbor. I get it, Jim. I want
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Speaker 4: to know about the Pirates. Okay, the Pirates have signed O'Hearn,
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Speaker 4: they've done all these things, and they're in the Gino
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Speaker 4: Suarez sweepstakes. Did Bob Nutting just find a money tree
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Speaker 4: somewhere miraculously and say, hey, you know what, guys, there's
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Speaker 4: pressure on me, and I found this money tree, so
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna start spending my money. Why haven't they done
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Speaker 4: this in the past. Is it because they have Skins
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Speaker 4: and Jones and Bubba Chandler and all these guys that
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Speaker 4: are lined up, and now they finally think this is
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Speaker 4: their chance to pounce on an NL central. Why why
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Speaker 4: have the Pirates all of a sudden found this free
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Speaker 4: money that they never had for all these years? Or
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Speaker 4: is it because there's a collective bargaining session coming up
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Speaker 4: and then Bob Nutting and the Pirates can say, look,
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Speaker 4: the Pirates can't spend money. We don't need a cap.
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Speaker 4: They just have to do it at the right time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's both.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the reality is set in that
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Speaker 3: you're not gonna have Paul Skeens much longer, and if
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Speaker 3: you want to try to win, your window of winning
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Speaker 3: is going to be when Skeens is part of this rotation.
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Speaker 3: I think they believe, and they should, that they have
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Speaker 3: a rotation that can win a division in the NL Central.
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Speaker 3: And I think they're accurate. If Jared Jones comes back
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Speaker 3: and was the guy prior to the injury, and you
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Speaker 3: got to get Skiing some runs. We can't keep watching
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Speaker 3: the Pirates score one run, no runs, or two runs
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Speaker 3: every time Skiens takes them ound. So I think the
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Speaker 3: clamoring has been so loud for several years, but they
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Speaker 3: see that, Look, if they just get a mediocre offense,
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Speaker 3: they've got a chance to win more than they lose
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Speaker 3: and at least be in the conversation come September. And
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Speaker 3: I think they've accomplished that. And I think we should
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Speaker 3: credit Bob Nutting and Ben Charrington for trying this offseason.
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Speaker 3: The trade for Brandon Lole with thirty one home runs
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Speaker 3: last year, the trade for Ryan O'Hearn, who's coming off
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Speaker 3: the best offensive season of his career, the trade for
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Speaker 3: the prospect from the Red Sox, the outfielder Garcia who
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Speaker 3: should be able to make this team as a starting
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Speaker 3: outfielder out of spring training, and the rookie Connor Griffin,
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Speaker 3: who could end up being Rookie of the Year. He's
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Speaker 3: ultra talented and not sure he's major league ready. But
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Speaker 3: that's four new guys to your lineup. That's going to
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Speaker 3: make O'Neil Cruz better, that's going to make Brian Reynolds better.
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Speaker 3: And again, we're just looking for an offense that was
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Speaker 3: last in baseball and run scored, lasting home runs to
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Speaker 3: be at least enough respectable that you have a chance
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Speaker 3: to win more than they lose. So baseball wise, they
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Speaker 3: had to do it.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: Your last issue, I believe one hundred percent has a
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Speaker 3: lot to do with some of the factors that we're
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Speaker 3: seeing this offseason, and that is the realization of all
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Speaker 3: thirty teams that we're going to have a floor in
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Speaker 3: the next negotiations of a CBA. We're gonna have a floor.
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Speaker 3: I believe we're going to have a cap too. I
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Speaker 3: think we're going to have a range. It's not going
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Speaker 3: to ever be equal. The big markets are always going
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Speaker 3: to have more money. But I think the players clearly
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Speaker 3: understand that the other sports are getting more revenue than
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Speaker 3: the baseball teams are. The NFL and NBA players are
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Speaker 3: getting more of a share than baseball players are. That's
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Speaker 3: not right. The players at the very league should be
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Speaker 3: getting fifty percent of the revenues, and they're not right now.
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Speaker 2: And so one of the ways you have to fix it.
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Speaker 2: You got to have a floor. You've got to.
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Speaker 3: Make Miami in Pittsburgh, and you got to make these
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Speaker 3: teams spend. And you don't want to be in a
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Speaker 3: position where you have to spend all at once. All
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Speaker 3: of a sudden you get a new CBA and you
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Speaker 3: got to spend at once. So you might as well
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Speaker 3: the year prior start to spend a little bit. Let
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Speaker 3: the Marlin spend thirteen mil on Fairbanks. Let the Pirates
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Speaker 3: spend a little money on Lao and Ohearn and start
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Speaker 3: to get that up a little bit now instead of waiting.
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Speaker 3: And at the same time, some of the big market
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Speaker 3: teams that haven't spent a lot of money, some of them.
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Speaker 3: Some have, but some haven't. Some of those teams don't
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Speaker 3: want to be a runaway training right now not knowing
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Speaker 3: what this next CBA is going to look like.
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Speaker 4: Okay, you can talk about the Red Sox and Yankees
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Speaker 4: not signing a free agent. That's fine, we get a gym.
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Speaker 4: It's okay, Well you can say their names, we understand.
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Speaker 4: But again it goes back to this though. The Pirates
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Speaker 4: obviously have money, so why I get now because of
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Speaker 4: the CBA. But is it just because they have Paul
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Speaker 4: Schemes and just because they have Chandler, just because they
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Speaker 4: have Jared Jones and Mitch Keller. Is that why now
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden they're like, oh, look we have
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Speaker 4: to do something, or has the fan noise and the
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Speaker 4: clamoring at Bob Nunning and the Pirates front office finally
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Speaker 4: got to them. I get the CBA side of it,
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Speaker 4: but as a fan, you know their opening day payroll
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Speaker 4: is still similar to where it was around last year.
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Speaker 4: But still aren't they like the fans finally won one
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Speaker 4: here because the Pirates are ye somewhat trying.
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Speaker 3: Yes, the fans have won was heard and by the way,
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Speaker 3: Ben Sherrington's voice was heard in Bob Nutting's office. Remember
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Speaker 3: Ben Sherrington won a World championship as a GM of
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Speaker 3: the Boston Red Sox. Spent a lot of money there.
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Speaker 3: He understands what it takes to win the championship. He's
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Speaker 3: not over in Pittsburgh telling Bob Nutting don't spend money.
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Speaker 3: He's in that office. He wants to keep his job.
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Speaker 3: He doesn't want to have their reputation of being a
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Speaker 3: non competitive GM. So he's in there screaming and yelling.
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Speaker 3: And look, it's not like the Pirates have gone out
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Speaker 3: and spend big money. But they did make the big
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Speaker 3: offer on Schwarber. Okay, wasn't big enough, but they did
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Speaker 3: do that. But at least they are making moves and
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Speaker 3: getting better. So, you know, did Bob Nutting wake up
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Speaker 3: on the other side of the bed. I don't think so.
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Speaker 3: But I do think the clamoring and the noise and
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Speaker 3: the baseball argument that our starting pitching is that good
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Speaker 3: if we can score runs, I think that's resonating. And
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Speaker 3: I think the Pirates are tired of all the hatred
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Speaker 3: from fans. They're tired of fans not coming to the ballpark.
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Speaker 3: When Paul Skeins isn't pitching, so they've had a fun
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Speaker 3: offseason and I think we should be celebrating it rather
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Speaker 3: than complaining about what they've done in the past. Let's
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Speaker 3: just celebrate what they've done this offseason. Yin's in Pittsburgh
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Speaker 3: and let's buy Primati Brothers sandwich is that don't taste
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Speaker 3: good with the fries and cole slab, but we can
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Speaker 3: all pretend they do. And Iron City beer that's terrible.
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Speaker 3: We can pretend it's good for at least one offseason.
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Speaker 2: Let's just do it.
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Speaker 5: Wow, shots across the river, I mean they always playing
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Speaker 5: the cannon. I mean Jim just went down the river
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Speaker 5: with shooting shooting cannonballs into Pittsburgh. I like it though. Anyway,
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Speaker 5: let's get to it. Let's get to your list of
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Speaker 5: most improved teams from this offseason. Number one on your list.
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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's number one in your power
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Speaker 5: rankings or most improved, but it's the Orioles who always
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Speaker 5: go out and get offense in the offseason, and it
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Speaker 5: didn't work last year. Have they done enough without because
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Speaker 5: your caveat in the article said Valdez or Rangers Suarez.
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Speaker 5: Have they done enough and are they a better team
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Speaker 5: just because they're hoping some of their pitching is going
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Speaker 5: to come back in Bradish and Trevor Rodgers is going
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Speaker 5: to continue a second half resurgence.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I want to start on the offensive side with
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Speaker 3: the Orioles adding seventy four home runs with Pete Alonzo
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Speaker 3: and Taylor Ward, that changes this offense without a doubt.
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Speaker 3: I believe both players are legitimately that kind of power,
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Speaker 3: and I think the Oriols should expect that kind of
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Speaker 3: power from both of them. And so it's the force
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Speaker 3: multiplier with those acquisitions that gets me excited about the
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Speaker 3: Orioles because the forced multiplier, to me is the fact
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Speaker 3: that that's going to take the pressure off Gunner Henderson
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Speaker 3: at the Rutchman, Jackson Holliday, Jordan Westbrook, Colton Kowser, Sam
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Speaker 3: besides a Rutchman, it takes all the pressure off of them.
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Speaker 3: I think it's going to make them better offensively, and
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Speaker 3: that corps is really good and they've never reached their potential.
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Speaker 3: I talked to Craig Albernez, the manager of the Baltimore Orioles,
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Speaker 3: yesterday morning, and he said that he looked at the
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Speaker 3: force Multiplier more about games played. I said, what do
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Speaker 3: you mean. He said, well, Alonzo an award. They play
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Speaker 3: every day. And he said, I want all these young
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Speaker 3: Oriole players to see you're supposed to play every day,
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Speaker 3: and they're going to set that example. And he said,
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Speaker 3: I think that's going to help the young Oriole players
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Speaker 3: want to play hurt more.
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Speaker 2: I like the depth they have.
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Speaker 3: I like the fact that on the bench is Kobe
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Speaker 3: Mayo or Ryan Mountcastle or Tyler O'Neal if he's not starting,
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Speaker 3: or Dylan Beavers if he's not starting. They have built
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Speaker 3: really good depth at every position. They're prepared for injuries,
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Speaker 3: and I think their offense is going to be one
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Speaker 3: of the best offenses in the American League in twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty six. I think the young corep is going to
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Speaker 3: take a huge jump forward and have just as much
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Speaker 3: impact as the acquisitions of Alonzo and Ward. Now I'll
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Speaker 3: get to the part of can they contend. Can they
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Speaker 3: be in October team? It depends if they're done with
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Speaker 3: their pitching, which they can't be. That's the biggest question.
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Speaker 3: It will continue to be the big question. If I'm them,
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Speaker 3: I'm getting Frambervaldez and Ranger Swrez. Now they're not going
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Speaker 3: to do both, but I think they are going to
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Speaker 3: do one. It doesn't sound like it's Baldez from my sources.
16:23
Speaker 3: It sounds like it's Ranger Sorez, and it sounds like
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Speaker 3: they have been very aggressive and are strongly in. They
16:28
Speaker 3: haven't been able to close the deal, but they kind
16:31
Speaker 3: of feel like they have a chance. We'll have to
16:33
Speaker 3: wait and see. But that's gonna be the question about
16:36
Speaker 3: how far Baltimore goes. It's not going to be about
16:38
Speaker 3: the lineup, the offense or the defense. It's going to
16:41
Speaker 3: be how far can the pitching come and also what
16:44
Speaker 3: can they do with the back end.
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Speaker 2: Look.
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Speaker 3: I like the Helsey and Kitchens signings, but why was
16:48
Speaker 3: Helsey's fastball hit so hard last year? Was that release point?
16:52
Speaker 3: Was that arm angle that needs to be adjusted? We
16:55
Speaker 3: know it's a wipeout break and ball, We get that,
16:58
Speaker 3: but he's gonna have to figure out that fastball so
17:00
Speaker 3: it's not so hittable. Can Helzy come back and be
17:04
Speaker 3: the impact closer he was in Saint Louis? He didn't
17:06
Speaker 3: look good with New York. Was that a New York thing?
17:08
Speaker 3: Was that a mechanical thing? I don't know, but pitching's
17:11
Speaker 3: going to determine what Baltimore can do. Look right now,
17:14
Speaker 3: I still probably have him in fourth place in the
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Speaker 3: AL East. But if they if the pitching comes through,
17:20
Speaker 3: if Rogers is the real deal, if Kramer come back,
17:22
Speaker 3: Bratus comes back, you sign Rangers Suarez, then can I
17:25
Speaker 3: see this team in the postseason in October?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a chance.
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Speaker 4: That's a lot of ifs, so jim a lot of Like,
17:33
Speaker 4: since you're crapping on Pittsburgh today, not the team the city.
17:36
Speaker 4: Did you see the game last night where the priest
17:38
Speaker 4: blessed the field and then the guy for the Ravens
17:41
Speaker 4: missed the field goal? Like, did USC try that against TCU?
17:45
Speaker 4: Or do they forget to bring the priest in?
17:47
Speaker 3: Or yeah they forgot, But the Pirates should bring the
17:49
Speaker 3: priest in and see if it can work for baseball too, right,
17:52
Speaker 3: I mean without a doubt. And by the way, I
17:55
Speaker 3: have I have a son that lives in Pittsburgh. I
17:57
Speaker 3: spent years in Pittsburgh, started my baseball career there, So
18:01
Speaker 3: I love Yin's.
18:02
Speaker 2: I love the mon on Gehiela in the Ohio. Look,
18:05
Speaker 2: that is a great ballpark. I enjoy it. I'm not
18:08
Speaker 2: making fun of them.
18:09
Speaker 3: I'm just talking real and I'm glad that they're doing
18:11
Speaker 3: things to try to win.
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Speaker 5: Now.
18:13
Speaker 3: In terms of Mike Tomlin never had a losing record
18:17
Speaker 3: all these years and he won ten games with that team.
18:20
Speaker 3: He is simply amazing. And by the way, why not
18:22
Speaker 3: give the ball to Derrick Henry have him run a
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Speaker 3: little bit to the left so you can set up
18:27
Speaker 3: that field goal on the hash mark instead of straight
18:30
Speaker 3: shot that would have gone through for a field goal.
18:32
Speaker 3: I don't understand why they didn't run one more play
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Speaker 3: with Derrick Henry.
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Speaker 2: I thought it was foolish. But congrats to the Steelers.
18:40
Speaker 2: Nice football expert.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he forgot the USC the USC thing, so
18:44
Speaker 4: it's fine.
18:45
Speaker 3: USC great two transfers today, Devin Bryant the linebacker, John
18:49
Speaker 3: Tez Williams the cornerback, the best cornerback probably in the portal,
18:53
Speaker 3: both of them going to USC. And they got Torell
18:56
Speaker 3: Anderson today, the wide receiver from the NC State. So
18:59
Speaker 3: a big bit, big day for USC football. Thanks for
19:02
Speaker 3: bringing that up, Big.
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Speaker 1: J and for the GM Chad Bowden for anyone who
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Speaker 1: doesn't know the context there, JB. Great long catchup, we
19:09
Speaker 1: needed it. Happy New Year to you and we'll talk
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Speaker 1: to you next week.
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Speaker 2: Thanks guys,