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It's the Pumpkin Spice of Horror · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Gina. And I'm Paul John.
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  Speaker 4: And we're coming to you live via digital.
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  Speaker 2: Recording from Blue Jay Way. Sure.
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  Speaker 6: I remember.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe you remember that.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a long time since I've been here with
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  Speaker 2: you guys. How's it going?
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  Speaker 6: Well, several Blue Jays have died since then.
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  Speaker 2: I took no responsibilities.
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  Speaker 1: We also had two squirrel funerals this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Are you just taking out yard animals?
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  Speaker 1: No, we don't know.
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  Speaker 6: There was like a hawk massacre. Something strange.
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  Speaker 1: We got some hawk action.
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  Speaker 6: Something strange is afoot.
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  Speaker 2: There's a monster back in those trees over there is
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  Speaker 2: what you're telling me.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, there really is. It's a pretty gnarly hawk that
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  Speaker 1: eats everything. Our bunny count is way down.
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  Speaker 6: You're assuming that that's a hawk.
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  Speaker 2: Assuming that's a hawk.
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  Speaker 6: You've not seen it in action this year.
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  Speaker 1: But other years.
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  Speaker 2: What you're saying, look at those trees out there. Somewhere
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  Speaker 2: there's a cryptid hiding out there. And just tearing apart
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  Speaker 2: squirrels and hawks and blue jays and.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's the strange part is the squirrels were intact.
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  Speaker 1: Completely intact.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he tore them apart and then put them back
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  Speaker 2: together just like that. He's a crafty bastard.
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  Speaker 6: Dissolving sutures.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought he just super glued them.
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  Speaker 7: Super glue.
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  Speaker 1: Just super glue.
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  Speaker 2: Super glue works pretty good for that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 6: That's kind of messy. Because you walk around with a
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  Speaker 6: squirrel stuck to your hand for 48 hours.
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  Speaker 2: It bonds instantly.
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  Speaker 6: I hate this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I need nail polish remover. That's when he breaks in
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  Speaker 2: and gets your nail polisher. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: You did run out of nail polish.
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where it all went.
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  Speaker 2: Suddenly it all disappeared. Well, this monster in the woods
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  Speaker 2: fits in perfectly because I was thinking we've been like
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  Speaker 2: edging our way up to Halloween these last couple episodes.
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  Speaker 2: But this week we're in the middle of October. We're
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  Speaker 2: right here. It's happening. Crossed over into the October land. So.
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  Speaker 1: It's my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we should embrace it and discuss some Halloween-y things.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe some horror movies.
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  Speaker 1: You know what should be a horror movie? Pumpkin spice everything.
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  Speaker 1: Like you would walk into a world where everything.
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  Speaker 2: Is pumpkin spice.
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  Speaker 1: It's like my ultimate nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody else has gotten to the point they want to
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  Speaker 2: complain about it. Now I'm just full on. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: let's go. What else? What else can you make? Bring
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  Speaker 2: me the pumpkin spice, Charmin. Let's do it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's everything. And it's so like insulting. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so insulted by pumpkin spice.
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  Speaker 2: You say that. Tomorrow when I'm enjoying my pumpkin spice
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  Speaker 2: frosted flakes, I will do that, which is a thing
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  Speaker 2: I saw this week.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. See? It is a thing. Pumpkin Spice Frosted Flakes,
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  Speaker 2: Pumpkin Spice Cheerios, both of which I've seen, in addition
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  Speaker 2: to all the monster cereals you should already be buying in.
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  Speaker 6: Droves at this point. Just load up on them. You
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  Speaker 6: will enjoy the Pumpkin Spice.
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  Speaker 2: You will.
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  Speaker 6: He who controls the Pumpkin Spice controls the white women.
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  Speaker 2: Controls all. I realized as I was having, and this
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  Speaker 2: is true, yesterday, as I was having my Pumpkin Spice Twinkie, That, like,
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  Speaker 2: really anything works better if you jam some sort of
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  Speaker 2: seasonal thing into it. And better put, this is my
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  Speaker 2: favorite on food items, limited edition.
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  Speaker 6: Oh. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Limited edition pumpkin spice Twinkies, mind you. Wow.
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  Speaker 6: So if you bought that, you know, pumpkin spice Cheerios,
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  Speaker 6: limited edition.
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  Speaker 2: Limited edition.
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  Speaker 6: And did not open the box and put it on
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  Speaker 6: a shelf. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't be the first time I've done that with a
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  Speaker 2: food item.
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  Speaker 6: In 40 years, would it, you know, be worth anything?
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  Speaker 1: Because it's limited edition.
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  Speaker 2: It says limited edition. Right on.
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  Speaker 6: On open, I'd like to point out.
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  Speaker 2: Mint in box.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: You'd have to, you know, you'd have to, you know,
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  Speaker 6: seal it in a container so that the box didn't
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  Speaker 6: fade or anything.
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  Speaker 2: I'd get an acrylic, you know, Twinkie box holder. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you get for all your pops and your
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  Speaker 2: action figures, but you know. Well, then you keep it
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  Speaker 2: in a dark room. Come on.
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  Speaker 1: You buy two of them.
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  Speaker 7: You have one to show.
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  Speaker 2: Geeks don't see the light of day.
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  Speaker 1: You keep two of them. You have one that you
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  Speaker 1: keep out, and then you have another.
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  Speaker 2: That you keep. The one you get to.
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  Speaker 7: Play with.
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  Speaker 8: Come on, Twinkies.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. Crinkle, crinkle, crinkle.
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  Speaker 1: Then the one you put away. That's how it works.
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  Speaker 2: Pretend like geeks see the light of day. Come on now.
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  Speaker 2: That's not how we roll.
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  Speaker 6: So, yes. Basement pumpkin spice Twinkies.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the many of my pumpkin spice adventures as
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  Speaker 2: of late.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I hate about this season.
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  Speaker 2: It's ruined it for me.
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  Speaker 1: Don't fight it.
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  Speaker 7: Embrace the season.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, this afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: I love the season.
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  Speaker 6: This afternoon we saw pumpkin undershorts. Like, with a jack-o'-lantern
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  Speaker 6: right at the crotch.
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  Speaker 2: You're assuming I'm not wearing those right now?
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  Speaker 6: No, I'm not assuming that. But we saw them, and
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  Speaker 6: they were satiny.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry about that. I thought your guys were gone.
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  Speaker 1: I bet they don't really breathe. It's that, like, cheap, weird, satiny.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Lycra.
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  Speaker 1: Non-breathing pumpkin boxers.
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  Speaker 2: Polyester pumpkin shorts.
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  Speaker 1: Polyester pumpkin pants.
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  Speaker 2: What we need are good cotton underwears. With pumpkins. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I can't imagine anyone taking anyone else seriously wearing them.
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  Speaker 6: And I guess that's the point, I suppose. You can't
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  Speaker 6: wear those out on the street on Halloween, you know,
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  Speaker 6: just by themselves. That would be bad.
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  Speaker 2: If you pair it up with something else, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you could find a way to be random weirdo in
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  Speaker 2: their underwear wandering the neighborhood. You know, you just got
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  Speaker 2: to come up with the right angle. You got to
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  Speaker 2: put the right spin on this outfit.
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  Speaker 1: You could be a failed Fruit of the Loom character. Oh, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if those leaves made it in, how
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  Speaker 2: the hell is pumpkin getting kicked out? I mean, come on.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Can you name all the fruits?
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  Speaker 2: How many grapes do we need, by the way?
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  Speaker 6: Fruit of the loom, you know, used to be fruit
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  Speaker 6: and vegetable of the loom, but they had too many
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  Speaker 6: weird vegetables.
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  Speaker 1: Was it an apple? That was the weird one.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was like an apple and tights, right?
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  Speaker 2: And too many grapes. And there were too many grapes.
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  Speaker 2: There were no bananas. Yeah, no banana, which seems like
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  Speaker 2: the most obvious one.
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  Speaker 1: That would be the obvious one.
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  Speaker 2: But yet, like, two bunches of grapes. And then who
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  Speaker 2: brought leaves? Like, why are there just random leaves showing
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  Speaker 2: up to our party?
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  Speaker 1: Because they cover your business.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't the eating party. But why an apple?
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand Fruit of the Loom. And why isn't
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  Speaker 1: it a cereal?
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  Speaker 2: New grape and apple flavor. Now with more leaves.
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  Speaker 1: Limited edition.
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  Speaker 2: Limited edition.
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  Speaker 1: Fruit of the loom cereal.
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  Speaker 6: Yes. Apple.
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  Speaker 2: Grapes and grapes.
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  Speaker 1: Grapes and grapes.
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  Speaker 6: And a gourd.
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  Speaker 2: What? Now they're trying to be fancy.
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  Speaker 1: It's a cornucopia.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is, again, season's greetings.
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  Speaker 6: Lots of leaves.
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  Speaker 2: You know what comes out of a cornucopia is just
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  Speaker 2: tons of underwear.
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  Speaker 1: Underwear that's where they're made in cornucopias by little elves
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  Speaker 1: it's like if you fail as a Keebler elf you're
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  Speaker 1: sent off to the cornucopia underwear farm oh wow I used.
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  Speaker 6: To have an enjoyable life as a cookie maker.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't bake I was terrible now all I do
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  Speaker 1: is make underwear.
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  Speaker 2: Yikes I'm not gonna go there It's for the best, really. So,
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  Speaker 2: have you seen any movies? Specifically, have you seen any
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  Speaker 2: creepy Halloween-y movies?
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  Speaker 1: We were just talking about that. We're starting that tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: It's the official start of our Halloween viewing season. What
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  Speaker 1: did we watch that was really terrible?
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine. We've never watched a terrible movie.
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  Speaker 1: We watched a horror thing. Horror thing.
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  Speaker 2: Horror thing.
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  Speaker 1: Horror thing. We did watch this thing on Netflix called,
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  Speaker 1: what was it? It was like you were the character
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  Speaker 1: and it was this weird Russian.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes. Hardcore Henry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we started that and I just was like, I can't.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of motion.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It's a lot of running and best viewed on a
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  Speaker 6: very small screen.
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  Speaker 2: Probably. Yeah, I heard stories of people not doing well
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  Speaker 2: in theaters.
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  Speaker 8: Really?
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  Speaker 2: With a giant immersive screen. Bouncing around Image constantly.
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  Speaker 1: So that was pretty bad.
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  Speaker 6: It was like, you know, Blair Witch Project on crap.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is kind of.
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  Speaker 6: Shaky canvas.
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  Speaker 1: Galore it's like local local football video.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah but that is the one i dad hold the
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  Speaker 2: camera still i will almost give credit to only because
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  Speaker 2: i think because they didn't if unless i'm making up
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  Speaker 2: the stories i heard they didn't shoot it here So
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have to abide by like American rules. So
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  Speaker 2: some of those times, and it looks like they almost
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  Speaker 2: killed somebody.
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  Speaker 1: They probably almost killed somebody.
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  Speaker 2: They almost killed somebody. I think they shot it in Russia,
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  Speaker 2: which means no fucking rules. So, like, I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 6: There was a scene there where he knocks a woman
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  Speaker 6: down in the escalator headed to the subway. And it
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  Speaker 6: looks like she hits her face right in the escalator stair.
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  Speaker 6: Probably did.
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  Speaker 2: Rest in peace to that actress.
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  Speaker 6: And it looked very, very painful.
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  Speaker 8: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: If not life-changing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they would have gotten away with under
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  Speaker 2: current rules in, like.
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  Speaker 6: A normal.
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  Speaker 2: What's the problem? Another Hollywood situation.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know why they became Italian, but that's as
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  Speaker 6: close as I can get to Russian accent.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably an Italian director.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I just was like, this is not
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  Speaker 1: even enjoyable to me for some reason. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: can't even enjoy this.
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  Speaker 6: It was mildly entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what is on our list of things
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to watch. And this is not a
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  Speaker 1: horror film.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen these before?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Then we'll get to some other ones later. What
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  Speaker 2: are your upcoming anticipated viewings?
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  Speaker 1: Holy Mountain.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people might disagree. You might
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  Speaker 2: land on horror after you're done.
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  Speaker 1: My understanding is that it's more absurdist than horror.
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  Speaker 6: Surreal? Surreal, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that's in our queue. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Again, you might be horrified at many turns. And that's
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  Speaker 2: sort of what I know of the reputation.
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  Speaker 6: We watched.
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  Speaker 2: santa sangre on a oh i haven't seen that years.
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  Speaker 1: Ago yeah i haven't seen that in a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Again it's impressive and it's both things like on the
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  Speaker 2: one hand it's like yes you can see it's very
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  Speaker 2: like interesting and arthousey but then it does not shy
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  Speaker 2: away from gore when.
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  Speaker 1: It's super gory but it's like really beautifully shot yeah
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  Speaker 1: i thought it looks.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty great yeah it looks awesome That one's the most
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  Speaker 2: we've officially dove into that director.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You know, I haven't seen that since it
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  Speaker 1: came out. It's pretty cool. I saw it when it
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  Speaker 1: came out, and God, I feel old. I think I
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  Speaker 1: was in college.
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  Speaker 2: Back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: I was probably in high school.
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  Speaker 6: Grade school.
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  Speaker 1: Was it grade school?
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  Speaker 2: Watching Santa's Song.
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  Speaker 1: I can believe it.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you're this messed up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that and Blue Velvet have done this to me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's enough to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Blue Velvet as a child.
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  Speaker 2: That's enough to do it.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a great, great film.
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  Speaker 2: So are there others on this list?
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  Speaker 1: Well, with that would be El Topo.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 2: A little more Western-y. Yeah, but same director.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think El Topo holds any appeal to me.
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  Speaker 6: Holy Mountain actually is pretty intriguing, you know, both cinematography
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  Speaker 6: and the subject matter. But El Topo, you know.
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  Speaker 1: A surrealist Western doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Speak to you?
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  Speaker 6: Eh, eh. What's his name? Oh, God. Clint? No. John?
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  Speaker 2: Dave?
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  Speaker 8: Bill?
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  Speaker 2: Bob?
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  Speaker 6: Behold, a man named Clint. God, why can't I think
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  Speaker 6: of the director's name? Tarantino.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 6: Tarantino has already done the surrealist Western.
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  Speaker 2: He's gotten on a Western kick as of late. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean that of two movies because he works kind
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  Speaker 2: of slow. But when you'd only make a handful of
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  Speaker 2: movies and the last two have essentially been Westerns, it
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  Speaker 2: sort of paints you into that corner. So it'll be
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  Speaker 2: interesting when he does a Star Trek movie or whatever
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  Speaker 2: he's got planned.
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  Speaker 6: Now, I would be interested to see a Tarantino sci-fi film.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he wants to do. He wants to do
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek. Really? Yep. I don't know if they've officially
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  Speaker 2: decided to let him, but Star Trek's kind of off
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  Speaker 2: on its own thing now anyway, so they can do
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  Speaker 2: whatever they want.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it could use a Tarantino touch. I could see
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  Speaker 6: that being either really.
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  Speaker 6: Successful or horribly uh you know horrible failure.
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  Speaker 2: Do you make it in this current timeline and or
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  Speaker 2: group of casting characters you couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Because everybody would die so you'd have to make it
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  Speaker 1: or maybe that's how.
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  Speaker 2: We round out this current group of characters.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just imagining like hateful eight set on yeah.
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  Speaker 6: You just need to stock up on red shirts so
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  Speaker 6: that you can kill them all off.
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  Speaker 2: But technically this is its own alternate timeline so it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have to end the way that we know the
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  Speaker 2: Kirk and Spock and all those storylines end up in
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  Speaker 2: the older movies like this is an alternate timeline we
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  Speaker 2: could just off them all in one Tarantino outing yeah
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  Speaker 2: yeah oh hurrah.
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  Speaker 1: Gone expendable done all of them.
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  Speaker 2: The expendables that's another thing that's a totally different that's a.
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  Speaker 1: Whole different thing Well, and then we did start watching
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Space Cowboys. Is that what you put on?
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  Speaker 2: That's just old age horror.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, I was like, I can't even watch this.
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  Speaker 1: It's just people complaining about being old in space.
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  Speaker 6: And it was a horror film. It was an interesting
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  Speaker 6: exercise in that I hadn't seen it since it was
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  Speaker 6: in the theaters, right? So whatever that was, 1992, maybe?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe a little later. Yeah, later 90s.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway. Yeah, it did not hold the appeal that it
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  Speaker 6: did in that era.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I could not do it. I was like, you
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  Speaker 1: have got to turn this off. But we happened on
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  Speaker 1: this weird B-movie kick, but for some reason I can't
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  Speaker 1: think of anything that we've watched.
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  Speaker 6: Well, because most of them are forgettable.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's just because we had company
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: all week long that my brain is fried.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: But we could go the route of what we're planning
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: to watch for the upcoming... For our march toward Halloween,
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: which I think Wakewood would fall into that category. But
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: I think we've talked about that before. I think we
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: have too.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Isn't that your small town craziness?
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my weird love of small town, small British town craziness.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: I think we touched on that last season.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: Folklore, I think, is the genre, the sub-genre, which I'm
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: a huge fan of. I love folklore.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: If there's.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: Some sort of... pagan ritual involved or we're.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Probably all over it we're probably like hey.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: I want to see that you know um standing stone
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: uh megalithic mysticism that i'm i'm all in actually that
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: sounds great but see that.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Brings me to the question about horror films right like
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: there seems to be two very definite splits there's people
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: who like weird kind of psychological stuff which even gets
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: terrible and then there's people who just like straight up
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: like Clinical. Clinical violence.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Blood and gore.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the new blood and gore isn't as fun
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: as the old stuff because it is so clinical. Like,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: it looks like probably what it would look like if some,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: you know, these terrible things really happened to people. So
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: you lose that, like.
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: The original Friday the 13th versus Saw, for example.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you lose the, like, thinking about how
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: horrible that is instead of seeing how horrible... in gruesome something.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Could be if someone filtered it through a 1980s what
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: can I make out of latex lens yeah that we
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: don't really get anymore we.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Don't get that anymore and I think that that's kind
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: of it's a lost art I mean it's some of
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: it was super.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Cheesy there's still people trying to do it but yeah
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: it's it's almost its own little throwback subgenre.
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah like people that are like we're going all practical yeah.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah so that's kind of a weird thing to me
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: but I mean I do like horror films a lot
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: but sometimes I'm just like you know I don't need to.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: See a You know, there's an element, I was just,
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: side topic here. I was thinking about Friday the 13th,
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: the original one. You know, and there's a scene there,
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: and it's sort of an idea that is present in
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: almost all horror films, where Jason is.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: At, you know, Camp Crystal Lake.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Or, sort of. I was going to say, it depends
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: on if we're still talking about the person.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: Right, right, right.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: But, you know, spoilers for something in 1980. Right.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: We don't want to give it away. But anyway, the
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: murderer is in the cabins. lying underneath one of the beds,
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: which happens sometimes, just sitting there waiting for Kevin Bacon
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: and the other, his female counselor counterpart, to come in
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: and get naked and start doing stuff before he, you know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: stabs him through the mattress. How, I mean, how practical
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: is it to really just sit there and wait for
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: that long?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: And, you know, so... Patience is a virtue when you're
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: a murderer. I do really kind of just see Jason,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: and we're going to picture Jason because it's funnier, just
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: full giant Jason with the mask on, just kind of
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: looking at his watch under the bed, and he has
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to turn on the little light because, again, it's a
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: 1980s watch.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Is it like a Casio one?
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: It's got that little side light that only kind of
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: half lights up the numbers.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Is it a calculator one too?
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Your kids won't understand this, but old people are laughing
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: because it's i could only see the eight wait a
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: minute person and you got it so.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: You're talking about the the excuse to show boobs in
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: horror films in the 80s.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: Well no that's not what i'm talking about but that.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Is included that has never gone out of style right
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: like that set the tone.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: But that is also involved so i mean it's a
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: mechanism sure to Wait until counselors or what have you
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: get naked.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And get into a.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: Cramped cabin bed scenario. And he's just sitting there the
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: whole time waiting. I know they're going to go to
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: this bed. I know they're going to go to this bed.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what if they went in another cabin?
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: They're like 12 hours later.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: And he got stuck beneath the flatulent camp counselor.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Well, he gets killed early on, I'm sure.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: We know for that reason alone.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: But, you know, it requires a lot of, you know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: thinking ahead if you're going to be a, you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: mass serial killer.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And a lot of, again, patience. You just have
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to decide and then lay in wait and then attack.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I always feel weird talking about horror movies because there
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: are so many, like, super horror fans that they are, like,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the– Insane. Star Trek nerds.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I'm around them a lot. I may or may not
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: be one to some extent. It's a thing.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: It's a real thing. So I feel really pedestrian when
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I think that's okay because I think that is, number one,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I think it is the way more people than not.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I think that it is a smaller group of hardcore
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: fans like that. But at the same time, I think
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you also, and this is what people are always like,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: even just talking about film in general, like, well, I'm
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: not an authority on it. I'm like, you know, you
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: probably come up with better stuff. Like somebody brought that up,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: they're like, I don't know how officially schooled I am
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: to talk about film. I'm like, some of the most
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: schooled people I've talked to over the years are kind
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: of the worst at doing this stuff. Whereas people who
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: don't do this sometimes have a totally different perspective and
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: come up with way more interesting, like, a look at
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: something that normally you wouldn't get from somebody who's immersed
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: in it 24-7.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, horror fans are, like, rabid.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Oh, they are. I tell you what, we're not going
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: to be watching this autumn anything with fucking zombies in it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I'm zombied out, man.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Zombies is kind of a new thing. I don't know
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: if you guys have noticed.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: It's the pumpkin spice.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: It's going to catch on.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: It's kind of not a new thing.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: It's the pumpkin spice of horror films. Yeah, just put.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: A zombie on.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: I used to love the idea of zombies. It was
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: a great metaphor for the rest of humanity.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I will say it was yesterday. Yeah, yesterday
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: when I was buying my pumpkin spice Twinkies. I was
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: in a store. I won't plug them until they send
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: us the check. But for now, I'm in this large
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: retail outlet and I'm walking and like it really did
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: occur to me. There's like everyone wasn't even in aisles
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: or rows. They were just sort of staggered about in
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: front of me and they were all like heading to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: the registers. Like we were in the main aisle going
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: back to the registers and everyone was just like drawn
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: to it. And they were going at this oddly slow pace,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: but each one in a different little area, just sort
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: of dragging along, mindlessly shuffling towards the commerce. And I'm like...
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: wow like if ever i got the whole like dawn
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: of the dead version of real life of like oh
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: yeah commercial zombies i see what that that was it
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: i was just like damn this is weird and a
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: little creepy but no one else seems.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: To notice yeah no that's always the thing and i
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: always wonder what that is because people always seem to
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: leave at the same time as well And then you
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: mention it to whoever's checking you out, and they look
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: at you like you're crazy.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: They're just like, I'm here all day. Shut up. I'm like,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: how come it always seems like.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: People always come out at the same time?
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: I am Batman.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Shut up. I am Checkout Batman.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to punch you in the face.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Now go. That's what I do.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: Now go.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Now go.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So, yeah.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Would you like a Target card?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Just happened to notice there were a lot of zombies
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: in front of me as I was doing my shopping. Yeah.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: can't say i'm again i was like hurry up and
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: get on my way so i can pay for my
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: pumpkin spice twinkies so i am one of those commerce
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: zombies i realize yeah but i'm at least self-aware.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: There is a certain like weird idiots slow retail shuffle.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah and they were all doing it and they were
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: all like again they were all pushing a cart so
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: they were just dragging on top of like there was
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: not much effort. That was slowly rolling them to their
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: doom and or the register.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: And they said, pumpkin spice brains.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Pumpkin spice latte, please.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: More pumpkin spice.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Ooh, Cheerios.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no zombies.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Those won't be on our list.
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: But we will be eating Smarties, which I'm enjoying right now.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, if we have moved into
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the Halloween season.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Talking about candy. Smarties. We're a table full of.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: We're opening up Smarties right now.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: We're a table full of. Late 70s, early 80s kids. Yeah,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: what else do you want to watch? What's on our list? Hmm.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: Do you have any recommendations?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm just... I was just trying to think
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: of what it was.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Were you trying to figure out what flavor Smarty you got?
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: No, because they're all the same. They all taste like chalk.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, I love them.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: I just had vanilla unicorn chalk.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Just keep telling yourself that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: Either way, it's unicorn dust.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, I know it's kind of cliche to talk about
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: at this point among movie geeks, but you've said you're
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: out of the loop a little bit. Have you seen Heredity? Uh-uh.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: It sounds familiar.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Based on what you've said here today, I'm going to
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: heavily recommend Heredity.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: So we're super late to the party on this one?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: It was one of those even like because I only
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: saw it a few weeks ago. So like everybody when
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: it came out in the theaters was freaking out. Oh
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: my God, you gotta go see this. So by the
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: time it like was already leaving the theaters, I was like, well,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: now I'm behind things. So I just sort of caught
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: it right as it hit the DVD Blu-ray area. So
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: it is out there. It is accessible. And I think, again,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: based on what you've said just tonight, it is exactly
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: what you need.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: Cool. Well, what's the gist?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: It's probably best you don't even know. Oh, really? Seriously,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I think because there is something in it that you
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: don't necessarily see coming that I think, once again, based
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: on what you've said, you will really appreciate.
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: I also want to see A Quiet Place.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we still haven't seen that.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Still haven't seen it yet.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: That was, again.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: You want to know why? Because I can't imagine that
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: guy is anything but Jim from The Office. Just like
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: in Jack Ryan.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I hate to tell you, he's Jack Ryan.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: He is pretty good.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: He is really good. We watched Jack Ryan and it
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: was awesome.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: For the first couple episodes, I expected him to look
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: at the camera and make a face every time. I
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: know everybody says that.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: And his girl's off married to that Hudson dude.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: What?
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of that show, but I've
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: now watched a lot of episodes of it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: The Office?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: No.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Pam is married to.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: She was married to the director of Guardians of the Galaxy, right?
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: No, none of that nonsense. I'm talking fictional. She's gone off.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: She's gotten married to Kate Hudson's brother, who used to
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: be in that show with David Spade that nobody wanted
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: to watch because David Spade was in it. And then,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: now he's in this new show with Pam. And they're married,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: except it was not a very good marriage, and now
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: they're divorced. But guess what? They have kids, so they're
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: going to stay together and kind of live together so
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: they can both raise the kids.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, and comedy ensues, I'm sure.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I gotta say, based on that premise, I expected it
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: to be terrible.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: It was actually good?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: It was pretty good. Like, they're both pretty good in it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Well, she's good. I like her.
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: Hereditary is available on Amazon Prime for $ 5.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: You're gonna go watch it right now.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: What's one movie I couldn't sit through? Black Rainbow?
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Which one?
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: Oh, Beyond the Black Rainbow.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Beyond the Green Door. That's what you mean.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I had difficulties with Beyond.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: The Black Rainbow. Well, you know, Beyond the Black Rainbow.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Holy Mountain might be trouble for you.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: No way.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it was with Beyond the Black
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Rainbow was the like.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: Soundtrack?
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Soundtrack. How would you. There we go. I was looking
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: for a description.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: So, wait a minute. Do you think that the... Yeah,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: see that? You gotta stop it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: See, that's what it is.
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: It's horrible.
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: I can't do it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Let's just do that for the next hour. Go. I
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: just can't do it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: For the whole thing, that's what that is.
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: Now, it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Definitely... That's just ambiance.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: It definitely has a mood. But, ultimately, the movie makes
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: no sense to me whatsoever and is very anticlimactic.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Some filmmakers are going for that.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I think... It had that cool, weird 70s sort
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: of thing going on, but I just could not get
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: past the soundtrack. It looked like it was great at parts,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah. And then I'd just be like,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I just can't. It's so distracting to me.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: That I can't even. The cinematography was interesting. It was
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: very colorful.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Am I thinking right? Wasn't it like a weird 70s
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: kind of vibe?
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Well, he definitely had a 70s light show going on.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: In his dungeon room. Maybe that was it.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Like we all have.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: As we all do.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: But, yeah. Well, I don't want to give it away.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: But ultimately, I don't know. It was just odd. It
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: was just an odd film that I decided I didn't
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: really care about. I didn't care about what happened to
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: that guy or the girl.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: That's sad for a movie. I would mark that in
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: the unsuccessful category.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: So we did do... This is totally off topic, but
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: it was horrible nonetheless. We did watch The Mummy.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: All right. Now.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: Wait, wait, wait. And.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: We watched the new Mummy.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: The new Mummy.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, the Tom Cruise, I'm assuming.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise Mummy.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I have seen it. And then we followed that up.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: With the Brendan Fraser Mummy.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Possibly a worse idea, but that's just me. I was
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: never on board.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: Followed up by the Mummy Returns, followed up by the Scorpion,
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: followed by the Scorpion 2.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: King. Did you watch the third Mummy? Which most people
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: forgot existed.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Has nobody in it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I thought Brendan came back for it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: It wasn't available when we tried to watch it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: The only reason I know it exists is I think
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: they're attacked by yetis at some point.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Which is almost the reason this made me want to
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: seek it out. But then I'd have to look at
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Brendan Fraser's face. I know. It's like, never mind.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: That's the horror movie aspect of it all. I can't.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: No offense to him. He seems like a nice enough
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: dude in the.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: Real world, I guess. He's an affable person.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I just can't watch him. I can't watch him on screen. Like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I just, all the time, every time I see him. Oh,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: and then we watched Journey to the Sun of the Earth. Oh, yeah. So,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: a good movie.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Frasier kick, because we thought that was pretty funny.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait, that one. Never mind.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: A funny thing to do, just to watch random Brendan Frasier.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: If it doesn't have The Rock in it, never mind.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I know, right?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Didn't they do the right thing in recasting, and or
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: bumping him out of the way and bringing in a
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: good actor?
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: Speaking of which.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Wait, I like The Rock.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Okay. They got rid of Brendan Fraser,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: brought in The Rock.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: Speaking of The Rock, we also watched.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Doom.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: But not Dune.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: Not Dune.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: But I want to watch Doom.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: D-O-O-M.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Everyone's favorite video game of the moment.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: And, you know, I gotta say, it's just action-packed gore and.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Stupid, really.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: But that's enjoyable. How first-person-y is it? I've forgotten most.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: At the end, there's a very.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: The climactic first-person end where he's... I think I blocked
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: out most of what I ever watched of it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: It was pretty bad.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: But it's good.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: But joyfully bad.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Video game movies usually turn out not so... There's exceptions. Obviously,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Super Mario Bros. But most of them are way off track.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: Had the acting been really terrible, it would have been unwatchable.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Unwatchable but the actors.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: That were in it were decent they were they did
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: a good job and the dialogue wasn't stupid it was
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: believable it was just moronic if you were in that
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: scenario yeah yeah yeah in the end it was just
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: you know tight t-shirts and uh you know uh.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: The rock can't wear anything else They don't make big enough.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Everything is tight on The Rock.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, nothing can be baggy when you're just
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: that muscle-bound.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: He has his own size at Target.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: And truthfully, that was when he was tiny compared to
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: when he became The Rock. He became so much bigger
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: as time went on. It's crazy that as a wrestler,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: he was the small version of himself. Now he's a mountain.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: He's just huge. Impressively huge.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Huge GH going on there.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Not just hefty, as many actors get as the years
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: go on. No, no, he went the other way.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: He stopped going by The Rock and then started going
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: by Gibraltar.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he can. But we've jumped over the most important thing.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Let's discuss The Mummy because I have seen it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: So I have this problem. I don't like, what's his face?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise. I don't like Tom Cruise.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're the only one. I believe I've
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: heard that many times from people. People don't like Tom Cruise.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: It's okay.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Yet, I don't want.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, right? But I think it was pretty good.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I also think he can be a great actor.
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: He can!
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: If you put him in the right role, he can
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: totally deliver. If you even put him in a role
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: that just needs a body to be there and do
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: ridiculous things, because all of those, minus the first two,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: all of the recent Mission Impossible movies are kind of great,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and like... regardless of his acting like just the fact
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: that he's willing to do the dumb things he does
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: because they look awesome on screen and like the rest
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: of the action scenes and the cast and the cast
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: is pretty great outside of him so like those all
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: work because he's there but i don't know if we're
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: getting that much out of him like acting no but
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: then you look he can be a great dramatic actor
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: in very specific roles but like there's times when he's
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: name one i i want to know he's great tropic
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: thunder Yes, that's as dramatic. No, legitimately, there are... I
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: just have to go back because I've blacked out.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: I know. Well, there's risky business.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thinking of like Color of Money, but
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: that's not that far off from what he does in
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of other things. Rain Man. Rain Man, he's
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: pretty straight. We watched Cocktail.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: That was terrible.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: That's terrible. That's the thing. I've never seen that. Like
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: it's separate categories. Like he does some terrible stuff like Cocktail,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: but let me double check because I swear. The horror
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: of Tom Cruise.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: The horror of Tom Cruise.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I'm forgetting the good ones. Well, I mean, born on
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: the 4th of July. That's great. He doesn't phone it in.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: That's a great performance. You totally forget that that's him.
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: It's been so long.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: It's been so long since he's done anything that.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. He's.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: It's weird.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: But I actually kind of liked that version of the mummy.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: See, that's the thing. I was so not a Brendan
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Fraser mummy, which a lot of people, again, it'd been
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: just long enough that I don't know who they were
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: shooting for. You're not going to get old school Universal
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Monster fans because it sure as.
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: Hell ain't that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: And the kids that grew up on the Brendan Fraser one,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: it's not that fun. So it's not that level of
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: campy silliness. It's just a big dumb action movie. And
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, that's what I've said every time I talk
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: about it. I'm like, it's not a bad movie. action
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: movie it's just not a mummy movie no it's not
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: a horror movie at.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: All aspect is just like secondary it's.
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: A chase film yeah it's a chase film and i
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: don't know that i i don't know that i cared
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: at all for the film at all really the the
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: the dialogue was silly and i was not emotionally invested
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: in whether or not he lived or died or the
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: woman lived just a.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Good stuff being chased around.
• 36:15
  Speaker 10: Running from things exploding the mummy was done great that
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: scene where you know at the plane crash site and
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: the you know the mummy is unleashed.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: From the sarcophagus and she's acting like an arachnid with
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: broken limbs I mean that was legitimately creepy and you know.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: And I've heard other people them running away and like
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the like mummy zombies that are coming after them and
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: like They're falling apart, but the arms are still going
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: after them. There's fun little aspects. If you latched onto
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff and told a cool horror-themed fun action,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: you could make that work. Again, it's mostly writing. They
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: missed it before it ever even got to shooting.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: It had that feeling that it was a movie by committee.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: So many people had made changes. You know what I mean?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe it started out as one thing, but by the time.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And I think, I mean, it did because it started
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: out to launch an entire new franchise. And I think
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: we missed the boat on that because that was kind
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: of my favorite aspect. We'd already gotten our first crossover
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: character and like the setup to all of them. When
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: we get to Russell Crowe, I mean, his character is eventually,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: if they had a chance to do them, was going
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: to be like the invisible. No, he's Jekyll and Hyde. Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: So he was going to be Jekyll and Hyde. They
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: were going to work in like an invisible man and
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: a creature from the Black Lagoon. And like that was
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the plan is to launch a new universal monster series.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: And they were all going to, because we love shared universes,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: they were all going to legitimately cross over and have
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: characters that crossed over. And they even kind of ended
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: with it kind of like, I'm like, I kind of
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: like the way they left that. in a better movie
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: up to that point, that could have been a cool
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: way to end it so that we could revisit that
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: character down the line. So I think where we really
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: lost out was the much bigger thing that could have
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: happened had they brought in better writers and made a
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: better movie.
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: I would like to see a retelling of The Invisible Man.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: I think that would be not like.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: The one that we've... See, not too long ago.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Any success relaunching the Universal Monsters. They've tried so many times.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: And I knew people that were so in love with
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: those things.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I still am. No joke.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, outside of you.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of people that that is their
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: go-to for any horror. Movie-wise, it was that initial push
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: of horror movies in this country and the world over.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, you get even older and silent stuff, but
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: That was when the entire industry went, oh, this is
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: a thing we can do. Horror movies. Yeah, Dracula.
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: Dracula with the latest reboot with... Well, it's not the
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: latest one, but the one with Winona Ryder.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. It's so bad. I love that movie.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I love that movie.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I do, too. Keanu. People love Keanu now. That's the
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: one thing that's changed in the last 25 years is
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: he went from being a joke that now suddenly everyone
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: loves him. Maybe that will get respect now.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I love that movie.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: We may have talked about this before, but Keanu, as
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: part of his reintroduction into mainstream movies, he started working
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: with these Chinese action companies and he did some kung
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: fu films that were great.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: But that Bram Stoker's Dracula was so cool because of
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: the way they did some of the special effects. It
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: was like super old school.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: And I still say that's the last great, and I
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: think what broke, Coppola. Yeah. It's the last epic Francis
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Ford Coppola movie. It's not the same guy making Jack.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: It's not the same guy that's making all of these other...
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: What's the weird lawyer movie with.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Matt Damon there's like so many other like really normal
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: movies that came out the next 10 years from him
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: and it's just like what and that's the thing like
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: from what I hear it really like pushed him to
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: the edge of like this is too much stuff I'm
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: taking on too much because he was going to again
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: that was going to be that same idea he was
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: going to make the Dracula movie and then going to
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: make the Frankenstein movie that came out a year or
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: two later and And he was so overwhelmed. He was like,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Branagh, would you please take over for me? Which
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: is why I think he's still like executive producer or something.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: But he was going to direct that. And like Bram
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Stoker's Dracula like broke him.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I still love that movie.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: Apparently he's no Stanley Kubrick.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Comfort food of movies.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Kubrick started broke, so it was okay. He was already
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: broke somewhere inside of his head and he was just like.
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: There was definitely a screw loose. Which I love, though.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go research for 10 years and decide to
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: not make that movie. Because that's what I do. not
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: gonna do it so.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah so i'll add the bram stoker's dracula to our
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: list you don't have to watch that one.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: But you should i'll watch it it's awesome i'll watch.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: It gary oldman is just so awesome gary.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: Oldman that's his name i was trying to think gary
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: oldman is.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Amazing i really love gary oldman.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: And everybody wants to make fun of keanu but i
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: will it was on a episode years ago sterling brought
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: it up and i was like damn you're right Because
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: everybody wanted to make fun of Keanu's like, whoa, you know, vampires.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: But like, there is a moment where like, he's like,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: you know, Jonathan, what is it? Harker?
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Harker.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Harker kind of has to be a little dense
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: because he's like, he's like skittering on the walls and
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: like licking his own blood. And he's like, something peculiar
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: is going on. I better write about it in a
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: letter to my girl. I feel like things are strange.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Just like his shadows doing shadow puppets and yo-yoing. That
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: might be Treehouse of Horrors. But still, it's pretty close
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: to what's going on. And he's just like, hmm, this
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: thousand-year-old looking man, something's a little strange with him. So
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: maybe you do need to cast an actor that can
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: sell that being a little slow. And Keanu, certainly a
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: younger Keanu, could pull that off.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: Folk in the Victorian era were not quick to make
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: snap judgments.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: From that perspective, I was like, you know, you got
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: a point. Maybe that was better casting than we ever gave.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Him credit for.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: Oh, and of course, all of the Harry Potter 1
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: through 7 or 8.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those are like.
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: There's horror elements throughout.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: These were the season... The seasonal aspect.
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: I just.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: They're Christmas movies.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: They are Christmas movies.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I'll admit it.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: They're like Die Hard. It's a Christmas movie.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Sure. I love them. I love that.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: The feeling that it gives me. The sense of.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Spooky, there might be a ghost in my bathroom kind
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: of a vibe.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Is that a Don Knotts movie?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got a ghost in my bathroom.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: There's a ghost.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: There's a ghost in there and I got a bashful bladder.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: All right, anyway. The bashful bladder opening this weekend at
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the drive-in. My question for you, Paul, is are you
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: into the Fantastic Beasts end of this franchise? Have you
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: watched that first one? Yes. And or moving into the sequels?
• 43:58
  Speaker 11: Actually, I love it.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: When does that one come out? I think it's... Is
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: it out? If not, soon. I don't think it's out yet.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: I loved Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I like the beasts.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Do you know Where to Find Them? I feel like
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: it's pretty easily found when you get into that movie.
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: And I like the more adult aspect of that. I
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: feel like it's... I don't know. In a way, it
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: was more interesting than the Harry Potter series.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: It certainly spoke to me more, being of that age
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: range anyway.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: You know, it feels like a juggernaut, and now it
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: just feels like another money grab, right? That's kind of
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: my thing, but I did like it, and I do
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: like that universe.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. I like being able to build universes
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: and not have everybody assume that it's just a money grab.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: It always is. It always is. I'm okay with Marvel
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: being a huge universe and Star Wars being a huge
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: universe and Harry Potter. They all kind of deserve their
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: own universe.
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: Certainly J.K. Rowling had no problems with her books being
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: turned into movies.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I know. Well, I guess.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I did enjoy it. I won't say I
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: didn't enjoy it.
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: So just enjoy it. Okay.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Are you comfortable with the addition of a certain Johnny Depp?
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: being added to the lineup and i'm assuming a what
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: will be bigger and bigger role as.
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: Long as he has as long as he wears a
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: funny nose i'm okay with it.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: How about eyeliner can he have some eyeliner.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: It's another like jack sparrow you know well now he's.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Gonna like he's gonna take on the persona of mick
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: jagger and he's just gonna be doing a lot of
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: kicks and like hey ladies and like he's a lot
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: of flailing of his arms and like i.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: Thought he was already doing that That's Keith Richards.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: That's Keith Richards.
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: Break into the dancing chicken.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: He does the little dance kick and like, yeah, see?
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's horrible.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: That's a horrible thought.
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: The wings.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: It's going to happen.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: But you know what I mean? What happens to actors
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: that they just become these cartoonish versions of themselves, like
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Johnny Depp is now just a cheap copy of Johnny Depp.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I miss the Johnny Depp we used to have.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Johnny Depp is now the dime store version of Johnny Depp.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: In a way, it's a success.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: They're giving the people what they actually don't know that
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: they want.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: You become so much of a brand that you really
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: start to become your own brand.
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: It's just a... you know, repetition at a point and you're, you're,
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: you get into the groove and you're not really making
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: art at that point.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Well, and it's not like it's a new thing. Like
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I think back sometimes of older actors and I think
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: somebody like Clark Gable. Did he ever break out of
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: that persona? Like, isn't he always kind of Clark Gable
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: in everything you've ever seen? Humphrey Bogart. Even, yeah, Bogart,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Cary Grant. Like, Cary Grant had a little more to
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: work with, but I still feel like he doesn't stray. Like,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: sometimes he can do a little more comedy versus drama,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: but that... His persona is still kind of there, and
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: he just does a little more with it than some
• 47:09
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  Speaker 2: He can do other stuff. He's pretty much doing the
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  Speaker 2: same character, but... But the silly version.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I feel like all of them find their thing,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, this is what makes me money.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: You almost do get people when they go too far,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: and you're like, people are like, what the hell was that?
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I hate this movie because... You tried something different. You
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: did something that you're not normally doing in all of
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: your movies. So, I mean, it is kind of a
• 47:40
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• 47:43
  Speaker 6: It's kind of strange to think of Jimmy Stewart as
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: a brand, but he was.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: He was.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, he definitely was. And you do. Like, he's another
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: one of those. He never really strayed from that. But
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: you see how serious he can be in something like
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Vertigo versus as light as he is in some of
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: the other stuff. And even, like, going back, he wasn't before...
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: before because that's what somebody was just referencing some of
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: the earlier stuff with him where he's a little darker
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: and like you're not used to it because we all
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: got to know him as the jimmy stewart when he
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: was conscious of his jimmy stewart persona but like the
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: early days he was just an actor he just showed
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: up and did stuff and sometimes it wasn't quite as
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: you know the normal jimmy stewart thing that he would
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: be okay with doing as he got.
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: It's a wonderful life it's actually a very dark.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Dark It's become a feel-good holiday classic, but not without
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: that last 15 minutes.
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  Speaker 6: Makes me cry every time. And, you know, tackling some
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: serious issues. Clearly, he's got some psychological trauma.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people go through that at the holidays.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 6: All right. Sorry, I'm digging into my next round of Smarties.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: What do they taste like? What color do you get?
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: Well, this one was peach chalk flavored.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: See, I swear there's slight differences.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Very subtle. Very subtle.
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: And I think it's the difference of yellow number five
• 49:10
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know if you did a blind taste
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  Speaker 1: test of smarty colors, if you could distinguish them. I
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this sounds like a challenge. It does.
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  Speaker 6: Unicorn chalk. No. But so here's the vanilla one.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah I mean if you were okay so if you
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: were going to make a horror film Alright. What would
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: you make a horror film about? Have you ever thought?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I know you think about it a lot.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Do I?
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Well you think about horror films.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I think about horror films a lot. But usually just
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: stuff I've seen. That's the thing I feel like is
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: hard to do. How do you make a horror film
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: that isn't something you've already seen before? How do you
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: come up with anything original when you've got so much stuff?
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Especially in a genre that's got such rabid fans that
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: you're like, how do I not rip off people? How
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: much of an homage can I do before I just
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: become a hack?
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: I think that that is unavoidable to a degree, but
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: You know, the psychological aspect is always free reign because
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: there's always new things to be afraid of.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: That one was lemony. Was it?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
• 50:13
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• 50:14
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  Speaker 4: Last night at the museum, they were searching for a
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  Speaker 4: trace of the thief who stole the mummy's bracelet.
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  Speaker 2: From its case.
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  Speaker 4: And now tonight, the mummy's curse is on his thieving head,
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• 56:42
  Speaker 4: If you're going to.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Make a horror film, how do you not do something
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: that's been done? It's like every horror film has been done.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: You move into technology. The always changing technology. Because those
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: work really good. You know, ones about evil lurking on
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: the internet or in your cell phone. No way, I'm
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: thinking all those have turned out really bad. That's just
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: good sci-fi, right?
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: You start, you know... Reading the tea leaves of technology
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: and knowing where it's going to go, which is ultimately a,
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: you know, big brother scenario.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: That's always terrifying to everyone.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: But I'm not a sci-fi fan, really.
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: Well, it's sort of.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: It's crossover genre.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: It's dystopian horror, you know.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, that's okay. That's not sci-fi, really.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: It can be both. Yeah.
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: It absolutely can be, but.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: It just depends on how you look at it.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I hate to say I'm not one of those, but I.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Am for some things.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: It's a psychological horror.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: What's the one that's set in New Zealand?
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, Quiet Earth.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: That's a great one.
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: It is very good. Sort of 80s version of dystopian future,
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: but really psychological horror about being alone and the fragility
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: of the human mind when it's left to itself.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: See, that's what I was going to ask you, is
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: more so, because I don't know that we can come
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: up with what can we make, but what are horror
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: movies that have worked for you, and then why is
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: it that they're effective for you?
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: Well, as I've previously stated, I think anything in the
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: folk horror genre works for me just because as a
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: child of the seventies, you know, who grew up watching
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: things like, uh, Arthur C. Clarke's mysterious universe and stuff
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: like that, you know, anything that touches those, uh, marks
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: work for me, um, you know, the, anything touching on
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: a actual, um, mystery that is, Actually, you know what
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: would be really interesting is uh a a horror film
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: set in ancient uh egypt or ancient.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Like the mummy no with tom cruise Well, that's modern day.
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about ancient Egypt.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: He can do an old-timey accent. I'm pretty sure he's
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: a good actor. I'm pretty sure he's a good actor.
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: He can pretend to be an Egyptian or, you know,
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: some sort of movie that ties together all of the.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Ancient alien stuff?
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Well, no.
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: Stargate?
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: I wasn't going to say ancient aliens.
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: I was going to say the... I think Stargate. The
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: ancient civilizations that, you know, constructed all of these, you know, massive...
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: monolithic structures and then somehow we we lost that ability
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: halloween three is.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: That the one that's in space no that's the one
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: that deals with stonehenge what if you haven't watched it
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: lately Fucking watch Halloween 3. Wait a minute. There is
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: no Michael Myers.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: No, that's the one with the television, right?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: It is the television, but it also involves robots and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Stonehenge and was one of the weirdest. We watched it
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: for an episode. It is weird. I hadn't watched it
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: since I was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: I was just like, what? that's great hell is going
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: on i don't remember that i recommend.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: For you that i love films that totally take you
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: on this wild roller coaster ride.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: That's well i'll tell you what i think really worked
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: on that scene kind of encompassing all the things that
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: you like what works phantasm ah like that is a
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  Speaker 1: weird creepy like set in a weird town you know
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  Speaker 1: small i mean You don't find out that much about
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  Speaker 1: the town, but still, it's like this weird remote place
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  Speaker 1: with some weird.
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  Speaker 2: It's also kind of that, like, 80s era of, like,
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  Speaker 2: off on our own, some sort of horrible thing going on.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody's going to believe us if we told them anyway.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: So it kind of has that little kids version, but
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  Speaker 2: they're not really little kids, but kind of still has
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  Speaker 2: that same... kids off on a horrifying adventure that no
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  Speaker 2: one's going to buy if you try to tell them
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 6: Leprechaun 1 through 3.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think that Phantasm really kind of
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: works for me as a horror film for such a
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: variety of reasons.
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  Speaker 2: And it's way weirder than you would think. I remember
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  Speaker 2: Bits and.
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  Speaker 1: Pieces as a kid and.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't watch it for years. And then we started seeing
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  Speaker 2: the tall man at shows and we started seeing all
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  Speaker 2: these cast members. And I was like, I guess I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: should go back and watch these again. And I remember
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: re-watching that first one and going, this is not at
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: all what I remembered or expected. It was very different.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that kind of works in terms of
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  Speaker 1: things that work. And I think that's a pretty original idea.
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  Speaker 2: That's the whole thing.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: There was nothing that was like that. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if that's the problem with the Universal Monsters. What
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: are you going to do with them? I guess you
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: can do anything with them, yet you can't. And everybody
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: still thinks of them as these kind of campy.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: Anything that, that touches on, um, reaching into a alternate
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: realm work, right.
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  Speaker 2: As a, as a, as a horror subject.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: So definitely gives you a whole other plane to work.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: It gives you a lot of freedom to, you know,
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  Speaker 6: be creative with your characters and your story and everything. So,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: you know, alternate universe, sort of, uh, sort of the fringe, uh,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: series version of horror.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Like Fringe the Show?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: Fringe the Show, which I'm a huge fan of. Did
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  Speaker 6: you ever watch that?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I like Pacey.
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  Speaker 2: That's my only response.
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  Speaker 1: to contribute except my coffee making.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: There you go. But see, that's a good thing. You
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: can definitely regulate the amount of sugar you eat. Some
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: days it's a six smarty coffee.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Some days it's a three smarty coffee. It's sort of
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: like sugar cubes, but they're even more cut down. You
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: can just decide just how much you need. Smarty wise.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: This one's purple flavored. See, I was right.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Look, I'm barely pulling any up. It already is liquefying them.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: So you at home should also put Smarties in your coffee.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Pretty good.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Just saying. Enjoy the holidays. By that I mean Halloween.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Because I don't really care about most of the rest.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I think it's the best holiday.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. Halloween's all we need.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: We thought about getting more decorations for out front. Oh,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I got this cool cat thing. Hold on, I gotta
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: show you this.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: I think we're gonna get a giant inflatable specter.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: I went and then.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: Very, you know, 12 foot tall and spookily. Has long
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 6: spectory fingers and a ghoulish face.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: She's showing me her light-up cat face. She's trying to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: light it up, but she's having issues. She has many
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: issues as you all know. If you all go stand
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: in front of her house, you can see it because
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: it's on the door. Go now. Go now in front
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: of the house.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: Go now. Go look. Go now.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. I don't have any too much money to
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: put towards it, but I still can't fight it when
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: it's Halloween time. I have to go look for specific things. Now,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: it used to just be normal Halloween-y stuff, but... I've
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: also been a sucker always since I found out it
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: was a thing for the Day of the Dead as
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: a concept, as an idea. So in the last four
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: or five years, like for some reason, that's also become
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: a thing. You can find more stuff. That surprisingly like
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: pretty mainstream places have gotten on board and been like, hey,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: weirdos will buy this skeleton shaped thing. So I went
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: the other day and spent what little money I had
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: on a whole bunch of, I now have like two
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: sizes of mariachi bands of the undead. Wow, really? So, yeah,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: there were two different scales, and I was like, well,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: I like them both. When we were in New Mexico.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: I can't eat food, but I have many mariachi bands.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: When we were in New Mexico, we saw all kinds
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: of cool pieces like that.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: I prefer Old Mexico myself. When it comes to my
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Day of the Dead stuff. It makes it super legit
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: if you get it from Old Mexico.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: It's just a knockoff if you get it from New Mexico.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: It's cheaper for sure from old Mexico.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: It's hard to find here, though.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: It's marked up a million times.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I've spent years getting a handful of pieces because they are,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: by the time they get up here, they're A, hard
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: to find, and B, the people on this end jack
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: up the prices. So legit stuff from Mexico actually costs
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: a fortune when you get here and some gallery puts
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: it out there and sells it.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: There are these crazy hand-carved animals that they do. Have
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: you ever seen them? It's kind of like the Day
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: of the Dead carvings, but they're like these really weird
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: versions of animals. Anyway, I'm sure when the galleries there
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: buy them from the Mexican artisan, it's like $ 5.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Here's some beans or something.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: By the time you get them here, they're like $ 500.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Of course. It's ridiculous.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: But they are a piece of art.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: That's how we operate.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: But I don't think they're probably paying the artisans enough
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: for it. But it's from this particular kind of tree.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: That's true always. As an artist, I'm sure you feel
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: that way. Yeah. Yeah, I.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Do.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, don't you?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: No, I don't.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: You were looking at me like, I've never heard this before.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Actually, it was just a.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: I was just staring through you, really.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. Here's the twist. I was in a daze.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: You were a ghost the whole time.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I was dead the whole time.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Craziness. What? I love making that the twist of everything.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: It's become a running theme. It's a twist.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: It's a twist.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: What a twist. So, any other horror movies that work
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: for you? Or types of sub-genres that you're always kind
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: of on board for? Not the zombies we've heard. Anything
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: that's like anti-zombie subgenre that you're actually like on board with.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: Well, horror comedy is generally an interesting adventure.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's hard to do. Do you have
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: good examples?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 7: No, I don't. Horror comedy?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Good examples of horror comedy?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, nothing comes to mind immediately.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Again, not to bring up. shawn of the dead i
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: was gonna say not to bring up the horrible zombie
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: idea but it's.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: Pretty damn all right right well actually any of those
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: in that.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Uh string what what is it called the uh ice
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: cream trilogy yeah but there's different yeah.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: But um what was the hot fuzz That's actually.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 8: A great folksy horror film.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: That thing works for me all the time.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: And also the, what is the name of that other one?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: The End of.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: The World is also sort of the world. It's the
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: sci-fi crossover. It too is a horror film.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: But I think like, what is it, Things We Do
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: in the Dark?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: .
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: .
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: .
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like my brain is not working today.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: It has been such a week. My brain is.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: Definitely not working. It's operating on too few electrolytes.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: We had our own, like, folksy horror thing going on
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: here for a week.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: On the folksy horror thing, and this, again, is old
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: news for hardcore people, but have you seen the bitch...
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: which they spelled it with two Vs. It's not my fault.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: The witch is how I guess they want you to
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: say it.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: That's relatively new, and no, we haven't. But I've seen the.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Previews for it.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't watched it.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: That trailer's really good, and then I watched it, and
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: I'm like, it lives up. But it's... I mean, it
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: lives in that time period, which it really is. If
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: you're into old school folksy, it is of that time period.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: It is not a modernized horror movie at all. It
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: is definitely in and of its time period.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, this is totally off the topic for
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: horror films. But here's how I got there. This is
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: how I got there. It's a chain of thought in
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: her head. I was thinking of a field in England, right?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: That's kind of a weird folksy, somewhat... psychological horror film.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: That took you to Field of Dreams.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: All right, you'll love that, sure. Then J.F.K. and Waterworld.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: No, no, wait a minute.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Wait, you made me lose it. Oh, come on. Field
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: in England.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 7: Okay, Field in England.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, have you seen Mindhorn?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: Oh, no.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: This is not a horror film.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Mindhorn is so funny. Is this another sexy times movie?
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: No, it's about.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Sounds pretty Mindhorn-y.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: It's about a British detective from the Isle of Man.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: No, right? No, no, no.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: He's an actor who was in a show about.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: In the 70s.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: He played a detective show.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: In the 70s, and there is a modern-day serial killer who,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: or so we're led to believe, who is invoking the
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 6: name of Inspector Mindhorn from the television show to assist.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: And he will only deal.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: With, yeah.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: And so they bring the actor back, who has been
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: out of work for the most part for the last
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: 30 years. Interesting.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: It has a song. It's great.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Yes. So this is a recommend.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: It is a recommend. Sword of Porg. There is a
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: killer involved. There is a killer. It is a mystery.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: It's totally not. It was completely off topic, but it's
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: so funny.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, murder mysteries still fall into the genre.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: It still works. It still falls into the spirit of
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: the season. I believe, yes.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: The weird town. It's got a weird town kind of
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: thing going on. Isle of Man is very weird. So yeah,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: that was a good one.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 7: But.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: It has a guy from a field in England, plays Mindhorn,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: who is a guy from Mighty Boosh.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, this, okay, so now this brings it back to
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: folksy horror, right? I did come full circle. I had
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: a point.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Waterworld, that's our point.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Waterworld. The, this is like the craziest thing, like talking
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: to me as I try to explain a movie or
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: a TV series without knowing the name. It's the British show,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: the Are You Local?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: Uh, League of Gentlemen?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Yes. League of Gentlemen. But they're not extraordinary?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Did you ever see that? It was a British... No.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. I stuck with the extraordinary ones and they
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: had some problems. This was a.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: Was it a BBC series? And it was... It really
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: was in the surrealist category. I mean, it just was
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: very strange and it involved... A folksy kind of small
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: town England, but there were these old couple that owned
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: a shop on the outskirts of town, and if you
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: weren't local, you were murdered.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Are you local?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: Are you local?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: And then it just totally goes.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: It's a way to keep down on tourists.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: It goes totally off the rails in the last season
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: where there's like a witch doctor, like a New Orleans
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: kind of witch doctor.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: Oh, God, I don't even remember.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he'd always be like, she's my wife now, Dave.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 7: Oh, right.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: That character. Yeah, that's kind of the same thing, but
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: you should check that out.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Very strange. Very strange. I can try to remember that.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: What were we talking about before that? Oh, Mindhorn. Mindhorn, yeah.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: And so for those truly looking for the obscure would
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: note that there is a song called On the latest
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: Robin Hitchcock album that is not included in the film,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: but the song is titled Detective Mindhorn.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: Deep cuts.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Deep cuts.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: From an obscure artist.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: I love him.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: Anyway, so, yeah, that would, you know. Oh, so the
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: latest recreation of Murder on the Orient Express.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: I did see that. What did you think of it?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: I enjoyed it.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: I did, again, not to bash him repeatedly in this episode,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: but no spoilers here. You kind of know how there's
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: murder involved. But yeah, I think that's maybe the most
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: productive thing they did was really quickly offing Johnny Depp.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: And the thing is, he's not bad. Like he does
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: his- He was toned down. He's doing that character that's very, again,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: he's doing it kind of a bit, but it works.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: But it's still toned down. It's a toned down beat.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: It works for the character he's playing and it's toned
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: down for him. He's not falling over things and wearing eyeliners.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's something. So yeah, there's, again, he's another
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: one of those. He can occasionally- turn in a real
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: performance on this string of nonsense that he does.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: So what did you think of Kenneth Branagh?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: But Kenneth Branagh, again, across the board, because he's also directing,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: it's not super showy from the director end of it,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: but I think if he's focusing more on on-screen... His
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: on-screen presence is pretty good. I don't know that it
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: made enough money to get another one, but I could
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: see them doing more.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: No, they're working on 12 Little Indians, which is.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: One of my favorites. I thought they were, but I
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: didn't know if that got.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think it got.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: So hopefully it's still going to happen, because I'd like
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: to see more of this character.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: I liked it. I thought he really made that.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: Visceral, you know?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, those Agatha Christie things tend to be
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: very dry and rough, you know? And it's like, this
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: was interesting. And I'd love to see 12 Little Indians.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 6: And I'm sure it's not popular for the theater goer.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: My question, as an illiterate, have you read the book?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: Years ago.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Do you remember, and again, no spoilers, but do they do,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: the thing that they do at the end that is
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: the big wrap-up, Is that how it is in the book?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's how it is in the book.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Because I thought that was kind of an interesting way
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: to do it, and it made me wonder, did they, again,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: sometimes they want to change it so that it's like, oh,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: you can't just get away with, oh, I've read the book,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: like you need to see the movie because it's a
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: different thing, and vice versa.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, honestly, like grade school, because my grandmother
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: would always keep Agatha Christie books around, so I read
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: them all that she had.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: That's what happened to your brain.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Poisoned as a child.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: And then she watched Clue, and then it was all
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: thrown out the window. God, Clue.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Find Murder Mystery.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: As I have said many times on this.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: Which is another thing that should be watched at Halloween.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Clue is one of my favorite films.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 11: Ever.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: That does say a lot about you.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 7: Ever.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: It's a great film.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: I probably would, you know.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: And there's three different endings.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: In my 20s and 30s, I never would.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Only now. Not in the theater. Well, that's true.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: I never would have admitted that. You know, I would
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: have been like, oh, I liked Brazil. Actually, I really
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: do love Brazil. Yeah, I'm too cool. Brazil is also
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: in one of my top five.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: I need to revisit it. I remember thinking it's great,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: but it didn't... I don't know. I like his more
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: tight-knit stuff. Brazil seemed like it was trying to be
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: big and grand and.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: Over the top.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: But I think at the time when I saw that,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: my little brain was just like, what?
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: See, mine is... Time Bandits?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 7: Time Bandits, yeah.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: See, that's my second. And I need to re-watch this one.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: I think the maybe most genius and well-structured of his movies... Wait. The.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: It's 12 Monkeys. Oh. 12 Monkeys is a really well-put-together movie.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: It's polished in a way that he's super grandiose in
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: some of the older stuff, but a lot of times
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: it kind of loses its way, whereas... think that one
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: is so well done across the.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Board i like baron von munchausen because it's like i.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Like that but it's crazy like it knows it's crazy
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: and he does not try to hone.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: It in but i love the muppets on acid yeah
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: you know kind of is like i love.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: That it's crazy i.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Do too which is fine and i think really it
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: is it is impressive that that early i mean one
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: of his first movies is time bandits which i think
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Is really a well-told story and does hold up over
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: the years.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: But I think Brazil was just so strange and I
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: had never seen anything like it.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: It's still genius.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: And it's still like... I would just watch it and
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: just be like, oh my God.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: This movie. And that's an interesting topic in and of itself.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 6: Can they....
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 7: Is the.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: Crazy cat. Is the market.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: There today to allow for movies like that to be made.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: Now, there is... And I would say not... I would
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: say it has to be something like Art House Crowd.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: Occasionally stuff breaks through. Did you see Mother? No.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: I just can't go there.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: I will give you... If you want to see some...
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: It's another one of those that I just give you
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: credit as a filmmaker. How the hell you got that made,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Because... It's a weird movie in the
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: first half, but as things get rolling, it becomes, holy shit,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: how did this get through a studio system? Like, who didn't...
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: I know you're kind of a big name director, but
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: you don't have a lot of money makers under your belt.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: So how a studio watched you doing this and went, okay.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Because they had Jennifer Lawrence.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: That's pretty much it. But even then... Even then, though, like,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: that to me still wouldn't, because, I mean, audiences saw
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: it and either shrugged or were angry. So, like, it
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: still didn't save it that it had her as a
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: critical acclaim kind of a movie. Or a huge box office.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: I think it did good that weekend, but then everybody
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: saw it and went, what the hell was that? And
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: then nobody showed.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: Up after that.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: So, I don't know. I still don't even think that
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: saved it. So, occasionally one, like, slips through the studio
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: system that is, like, art house dialed up to 11.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: And what the fuck? And that smothered it. It is
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: definitely that.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: So you're saying that the environment is still ripe to
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: take advantage of the bureaucracy of giant mega studios.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Occasionally.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 7: Cool.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: I would say 99 times out of 100, they're going
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: to get shut down.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: And whoever okayed that is probably at a new studio.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're fired a long time. So there's hope for.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: People making odd, strange things just for me.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: But I think there's a ton of stuff going the
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: indie route. And if you're willing to get by on
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: a million dollar budget versus a hundred million dollar budget,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: you can make that kind of stuff. And you can
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: find enough investors and individual backers that'll let you make that.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: Because there's a lot of weird indie movies out there.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: And are really well made now. Versus, you know, it
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: used to be you'd get some crap. Not that there
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: aren't still crappy ones getting made. But like now there's
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: like technically it's easier to make. So if you get
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: a talented person, they can get the funding. They can
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: make a good movie.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: There is a revolution that is happening in the last
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: five years of, of, of people unknown, but have enough
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 6: money to get the modest equipment that you need nowadays
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: to make a good film or a good record or anything.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can do it in your own house.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, literally stuff, has been shot on a phone
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: now and turned into a feature film. Yeah, you just need.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 6: An iPhone and Final Cut Pro and you're ready to go.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I think we're ready to do that.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Let's do that. Let's make our own film.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: We can do that now.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: We're going to make a horror movie. What do we make?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 9: Comes back around.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: See what I did.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: See what you did. I'm just trying to throw it
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: all on you so you can do the heavy lifting. Thanks, Brian.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm here for.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, we have a wealth of weird, folksy,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: creepy Kentucky crap.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: Wait.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: I had the best idea because we went on a
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: bourbon tour.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: This is a drunken story.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 8: No, no, no, no.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: This is great. And I was like, somebody needs to
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: make like a Dallas bourbon. version, but like.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Bourbon. Bourbon. You know?
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: Like a bizarre... Assuming you aren't from here, the land
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: that we live in is overrun by people making bourbon
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: at this.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: It always has been. That's where it comes from. But
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: in these last, once again, this five year period has
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: just launched a million new bourbon companies. It's the bourbon boom. No,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: but I mean people... Like everything in this area now
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: kind of revolves around bourbon. So it really is its own... subculture,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: and bourbon chocolate. It's kind of ripe to be used
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: in some way to make a fun horror movie.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: The bourbon boom has happened outside of Kentucky. People drink
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: bourbon and love bourbon.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: But you can't get away from here. You have to
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: be in the core of it or it's not bourbon.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: Look, we've got how many bottles of bourbon on our.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: It's just because you're alcohol.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: No, God no.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: The fifth bottle was taken. Admitting it is the first step.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: But anyway.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: Uh, so yeah, and there's all these crazy stories about,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: you know, the same people who have worked forever, the
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: same families have all, like, there's always been a beam
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: at any of the, you know, so there's all these
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: like crazy ways that you could like make these.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: So we're going to create like some sort of, oh,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: it's a hybrid of national treasure meets justified treasure.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: You just had to bring up National Treasure.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: National Treasure means justified. Justified did work. I wanted it
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: to be because it's like all these families have owned
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: it forever. I want it to actually be the same
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: family for hundreds of years. These are just ancient.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 8: oh yeah well there could be whatever this core bourbon
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 8: is that they're drinking keeps them alive and keeps them
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 8: because they have to like water it down for the
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 8: rest of the riff.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: Because the gaelic call it the water of life.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: So i think i mean i think this is what
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: we need to start writing right now so this is
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: the horror movie we need to.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Make yeah that's actually good it's not.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Bad actually i've heard much worse horror pitches yeah.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: So Or we can make Dallas with bourbon fans.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: I'd also watch that.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: I would too. We could do both.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: Just supplant the city of Dallas with the entire state
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: of Kentucky.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: We'll do both.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: We have a Netflix series and also a movie. But
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: they're totally different things. They just revolve around bourbon.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: I'm weakly invested in the new dynasty. So obviously you
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: can sucker me into that. Which is pretty fun if
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: you haven't watched it.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: There's a new dynasty?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And it's so entertaining. I mean, they know
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: they're a nighttime soap, so it is insane level of
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: nighttime soapness. Wow. And it is very fun.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: I'll have to start. Because I did start re-watching Dynasty
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: for no reason. And Paul was like, why are you
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: watching this? I was like, I don't know.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: And they are making, like they do work in, there's
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: even not a crossover character. All the characters are already there,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: but there's an actor that makes a weird crossover from
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: the old universe into the new universe. So, it's a
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: little wink to the old timey fans. It's fun.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Now, if they'd remake Falcon Crest, I'd be all over that.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: And how come they haven't made a new Fantasy Island?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: Has anybody tried that?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: Because it's so ridiculous. How do you... Not that we
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: weren't making a lot of ridiculous stuff, but now we
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: would just make it a reality show.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I think you could turn that into
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: a horror series.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 7: Honestly.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Like how it went towards the end. But you could get,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: you know, celebrities like in the old ones who were
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: kind of their career.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: Welcome to Fantasy Island.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Who was somebody that was always on Fantasy Island? There
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: was always like one or two actors where you're like, well,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: I guess I got paid this year.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: Robert Goulet. Although they kind of go hand in hand.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: They do go hand in hand.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: The love boat takes you to Fantasy Island.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: And then the love boat came on before Fantasy Island.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: And then you hang out with Charo every week.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because she's on both.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: She's on every week.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: And she's still out there cheeky-cheeking in it right now.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: Robert Goulet was always there. Yeah, the guy that was
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: in that Bruce Lee film, he was always there.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, the tall guy?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: And Jamie Farr on this week's episode, The Love Boat.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, see, that'd be great.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: I used to watch The Love Boat a lot, and
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: I don't think I really enjoyed it. But it was
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: the only thing that was on.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: And it was on for Fantasy Island, which I would
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: watch because I liked it when they had the weird
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: creepy stories on Fantasy Island.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 6: I could never stay up that late. I was always
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: told to go to bed.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: And you listened to it.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, occasionally I would just sort of fall
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 6: asleep in the hallway.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, I do that now.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: I just stayed up.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: That's why you're breaking up.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Back to horror movies.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: Runaway.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: Does that count?
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 6: Runaway.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: With Tom Selleck and... Oh.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: Sci-fi horror. Oh, yeah. That's a sci-fi horror. The fact
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: that Gene Simmons is in it and you have to
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: look at his face is a horror movie. So, yeah.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah. That one, I love that. I love that movie.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: That's a tasty little number.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: Again, kind of a lost sci-fi classic. I'm using that
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: a little loosely.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: See, I say I don't like sci-fi, yet I love
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: all these sci-fi things.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: These are all, to me, sci-fi.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: But I don't like.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: But mechanical spiders coming at your face is still horror.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: It's horror.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: It's cyborg. Or, you know.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: I don't like sci-fi. It's like everything I talk about
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: is a sci-fi film.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I like the 80s martial artist....
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Sci-fi crossovers. There's such a thing? All of them.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God, we watched Mortal Kombat. That was a hoot.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: Mortal Kombat. Not in a horror sense.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: No, we just watched it.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: Some people would find it horrific.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 6: It's pretty cool. I mean, it is sort of, you know,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: like alternate universe world kind of scenario thing.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: After we're done, I will pitch another movie to you
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: only because... If you were paying attention, listeners, you already
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: heard this on a recent episode. But there's one that
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: someone brought to my attention recently that I had no
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: idea existed and is very Mortal Kombat-y. So I'll elaborate.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: And if you don't know what I'm talking about, email me.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: I'll point you to that episode. Anyway, there's another crossover
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: sort of unofficial Mortal Kombat movie for you to watch.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 6: So.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: We'll get to that later, but.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: We'll forget. You better say it now because we'll forget.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: Does it involve Jean-Claude Van Damme? No. Please.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: That's too bad.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: More horror recommendations? Is that what you're looking for? Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: I did think of when you were describing stuff that
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: you're into. Have you seen House of the Devil?
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: It came to my memory because earlier today Misty was
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: bashing it. Misty is not a fan of it, but
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: I thought based on the way you were describing stuff
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: you like, you might like that.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: That's the modern movie that was shot to look like.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: It was an 80s film.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: It's very 80s stylized. She's the girl in the house.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Loved it. It's definitely.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Is that an Australian movie or a New Zealand movie?
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: No, you're thinking of, there's another film that you're thinking
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: of that was Australian and it's about the guy that
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: lives in the walls and is watching the... That was good.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to remember the name of that film.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: Bad Ronald. That's just Bad Ronald. Have you not seen
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: Bad Ronald? See, I don't know if they purposely ripped
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: it off, but that is... Once again, this shows you
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: the kind of culture we grew up with. That was
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: a made-for-TV movie in the 70s. Fun 70s that we
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: grew up in. But it is a... Basically, yeah, because
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: we did an episode on it once again. But yeah,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: it's a made-for-TV 70s movie. This weird kid lives with
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: his mom in this house, and he... accidentally kills someone
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: and then mom doesn't want him to get busted and
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: go to jail so she hides him in their house
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: and then like so she basically like hides him when
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: the police come i don't know where he went then
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: she builds like a false wall and like hides him
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: inside the walls inside of her house mom dies So
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: then he can't come out, so they move stuff out
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: of the house. New family moves in. There's a weird
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: dude living in your walls. This was a made-for-television movie.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: This is why 70s kids are so jacked up.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 6: That sounds just like Housebound, which came out in 2014.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: Very bad.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 6: But Australian and a girl, very similar tale. They move
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: into the house, and this dude's been living in the
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: walls for decades. Yeah. Ends up saving everyone's life.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: Spoiler. Yeah, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler. I can't even talk.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there was like a whole... I always wonder
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: if it was just my imagination in the 70s and 80s,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: or if this really existed, that there was a whole
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: thing about like creepy houses and people having these parties
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: in these... Creepy houses. There were no key parties. And
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: then everybody dies. Or there's an old man that's barely
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: alive upstairs. I mean, it's like I've created this entire
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: genre of movies.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: I've got a good one. Maybe these are the movies
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: we need to be making because you did make them up,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: but now you need to create them into real movies.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: But you know what I mean? There's this whole series,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, was that a thing? Or is this
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: just a weird.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: think this sounds like an amalgam of many things from
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: your brain in the 70s and you've turned it into
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: one movie that you're trying to remember the name of
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: yeah and it's not.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: A thing and there's a hawk.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: And people are like no that that was a yeti.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: And the hawk like scraped somebody's face off no face.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: And then attacked the six million dollar man and i
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: it I saw that episode, yeah.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: It was a face-off scenario between the $ 6 million man
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: and the chip guys. Chips guys.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: Larry Wilcox? Yeah. Recently brought up Larry Wilcox?
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: Never mind.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm trying to think, and that reminded me because
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: I looked up the Ty West rundown. Have you seen
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: The Innkeepers?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: That sounds familiar.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: An old hotel that they're closing down.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: I think we've seen that, Paul.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: It has Pat Healy, previous guest on the show, who
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: is freaking awesome in it.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 6: Is it anything like Motel Hell?
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: Which is fun, but in an entirely different way. The
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: Innkeepers is fun because it's him and Sarah Paxton who
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: is also freaking amazing. So both Pat and Sarah are
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: kind of the bulk of that movie. It's got Kelly
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: McGillis in a smaller role. coming back out of nowhere.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: She all of a sudden started popping up in a
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: couple of movies at that point. But yeah, it's mostly
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Pat and Sarah and they're in this hotel. And the
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: reason to me it works so well is usually you
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: get most horror movies are just light on characters and
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of killing and a whole lot of
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: ghosts or whatever the hell it's about. This goes the
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: other way. It's been so much time building up these
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: two characters that And you kind of love them. They're
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: weird and silly, but you are still kind of engrossed
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: in the horror element, but you're really getting attached to
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: these characters. So by the time there is some sort
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: of paranormal horror effect going on later, but by then
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: you're so invested in these characters that I think it
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: pays off so well because of that. So I think
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: it helps that he does a great job writing and
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: directing these characters, and you've got two great actors there.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Innkeepers, if you haven't seen it, is awesome.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: What was that film that.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: With Dan Aykroyd as the.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: Nothing But Trouble?
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: Nothing But Trouble.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: Is that it?
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: It's a nightmare. I have not watched it in... Crazy
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: New Jersey Town?
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: We watched it maybe a year ago.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: God.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: I love it. Does it hold up? And I'm saying
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: that like it ever did.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you. It holds up as well as it.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: As the first time I saw it.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: As the first time, yeah.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: And I went, what the hell was that? I think
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: I saw that in the theater.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: Like, I think I went and went. It was fantastic.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: This is a new movie with a lot of... Look,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: Demi Moore. She's in big movies. Let's go see it. Wait, what?
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's like I only saw it on weird
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: hours on USA when they used to show awesome, terrible movies.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: Sightseers. That's another one I want to see.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: Have you seen that?
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: No. I know of it.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: I keep saying I'm going to watch it.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: I've heard good things if I'm remembering the right movie,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: but again, there's so many to keep track of.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that Nothing But Trouble is... Oh my God,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: it has the Humpty... Digital Underground.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: Digital Underground.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: Why does anything work in Humpty Hump? But there you go.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: It was a thing. What year did that movie come out?
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 6: Nothing But Trouble.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: 1990?
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: It came out later than you would think. That was
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: the weirdest part.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: It was early, yeah, it was like 90, early 90s.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: It was like maybe 92.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 8: 91.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: But it looks like it would have been like 87.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: I wonder if it got made in 87 and then
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: just sat around and they were like.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: Because studio heads looked at it and went, what the
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: hell is this?
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: We have to put the stinker out at some point.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: Dan keeps bugging me. He calls me every day. Are
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: we going to put out my movie yet? I need
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: some more money to make vodka.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 6: Chevy Chase and Demi Moore. Yeah.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: Now, I was going to say, because you said you
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: wanted an updated Invisible Man, did you ever see Memoirs
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: of an Invisible Man? Which I think the most misstep
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: that they took was casting Chevy Chase. I think he
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: is the wrong casting. But it's really interesting as a...
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: real again as real as you can get because it
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: looks mostly at the problems of everybody, oh, it'd be
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: great if I was invisible. He's like, I can't eat.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: I can't go anywhere. It comes up with every horrible scenario.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: It is a horror movie in the sense that all
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: the bad side of having this, they'd be like, oh,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: it'd be great and hang out in the girls' locker room. Like, no.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: How about when you eat, you watch the food dissolve
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: in you because it's visible until it gets taken into
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: your system, right? And you can't go outside because you'll
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: get run over by a car because nobody can see you.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: There's all these weird little elements to it that are
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: such a downside. to that scenario that never really get
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: addressed in the old Invisible Man movies. And again, I
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: did an episode on it. It is one of the few...
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: the character does not go insane. Almost everyone, all the
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: way up through Hollow Man, you know, it's like they
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: lose their freaking mind when it happens. This one, he
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: stays sane the whole time, and it's him sort of
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: rationally trying to deal with being invisible.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 6: It's the Gollum syndrome.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: Other than the miscasting issue, which he tries to be
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: as straight as he can. Like, it's not overly silly, actually,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: for him. But it still feels weird. Like, because we
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: know him as nothing but comedy, it's hard to see.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 6: Him do straight. Because he falls down and he stares.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: There's a silly little trip at some point, and I'm like,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: he did that out of muscle memory. There's times when
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, that doesn't fit anything else going on in
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: this John Carpenter movie, by the way. That's a John
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: Carpenter movie? Forgotten John Carpenter movie that I'm like, there's
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: just stuff that doesn't match. All of it doesn't really match,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: but it makes for a really interesting movie. So it's
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: worth revisiting. Not perfect, mind you, but. You get to
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: see Sam Neill be a bastard, which he's really good at.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: Sam Neill?
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: I love Sam Neill. But he can play a bastard
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: really well.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: He's great.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Can you think of another outer space horror movie? Because
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: I thought there was another one. Well, yeah, not the
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: slashers that all went to space.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Was another like weird one right.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: At the same time and then I could not find.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: It just like there were the two water movies yes.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: It's like I started trying to think I was like
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: I remember it recently seen it like a table on
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: a convention or something and then I could like I
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: even started looking it up trying to find a weird
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: one from that same era and I cannot think of
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: what it was I swear there.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: Was another way for it was almost more enjoyable than
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: Event Horizon because Event Horizon.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: Just got super weird I remember it's been so long
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: It's another one I want to put on the list.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: Event Horizon is a strange movie. I remember seeing it
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: when it came out and I was like, but then
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: it has stuck with you for years.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: People still reference it more than you would think.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: It's a weird trip.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but there was another space movie.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: Matt LeBlanc in Lost in Space. Hey, that space monkey
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: was horror. What are you talking about?
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: I saw that on a plane.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 6: Did you?
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I still feel like, again, kind of bad casting there,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: but I still feel like the first half of that
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: is still a pretty solid sci-fi movie.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: Isn't Gary Oldman in that too?
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: He plays Doc.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: He's great in it.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: He's great.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: And that robot was cool, but you hit that, like
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: it literally shifts in the middle into an entirely different movie. Yeah.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: When they hit that weird time loop and you see
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: a hole in space open up and you're like, and
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: there goes the movie I was watching and here's a
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: whole new movie. And it's like, For as cheesy as
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: it was, fighting mechanical spiders was pretty cool. That first
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: half had some cool action stuff to it that I
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: was on board with. Then it just takes a weird turn.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 6: I loved Matt LeBlanc in Episodes, the TV series. Did
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 6: you see that? That's a great show.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: Not horror.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 6: Good luck. I couldn't find it.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: Episodes is about.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 6: These two writers from Great Britain who have an existing
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 6: show and they make a U.S. version and it totally
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 6: gets hijacked by the.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: Which happens most of the time. Yeah.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 6: But Matt LeBlanc is in it and he is so good.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 6: A purely... despicable and what i assume is very realistic
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 6: version of himself and i've.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: I realized again i didn't ever set out to watch
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: it but it kept coming on while i was sitting
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: in front of the tv doing something else and like
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: that new sitcom where he's the dad he's again i
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: got so used to him being joey all he did
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: was joey so i was like i guess that's all
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: he can do Cause even lost in space, he's kind
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: of Joey in space. Like it's not that different, but
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: like basically I was like, he's actually not being Joey.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Like he's kind of doing an entirely different character, which
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: I didn't know.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 6: That he could do.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: Cause I'd heard decent things about episodes, but yeah, I'm like,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: even in this sitcom scenario where it would be real
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: easy to fall back into Joey mode, he's doing a
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: different thing. I will give him credit. It's not the
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: greatest sitcom ever, but like it's watchable and, And he's
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: kind of doing a different character.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: You didn't care for it?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't think he had that in him. For what?
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 6: Episodes?
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch it. That's what I'm saying. All I
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: had to go on was like, this show and Joey.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, huh, this is actually surprising. Well,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: you should watch episodes. That's what I've heard. I've heard
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: good things. You should watch episodes.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 6: It's good. It's funny. It's very funny in a very
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 6: British humor kind of way.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: Which....
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: They actually make fun of British humor.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: It is its own weird thing.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 6: I'm chomping on chips right now.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: Have you found space horror? No. I haven't found it.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: I'm still looking.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: Space horror.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: I looked up space horror.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: I tried that. It didn't work.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: Nothing?
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: I might be making it up. It might have slipped
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: into a Berenstain Bears universe. I don't know. It might
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: be like, I swear there was two, but now there's not.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: I swear you're right, because I always thought it was funny.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, there's two water movies. Oh, there's
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: two space movies. Because there was one about.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: There's two volcano movies. There's two asteroids hitting the Earth movies.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: There's two old men in space movies. They all come
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: along at the same time.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: They travel in pairs.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: Which they say that.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 6: the cataclysmic Earth asteroid event is not ever going to happen.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: That's not what they said in Deep Impact.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: It wasn't pitch black, but pitch black was okay.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: I can't watch it now. At the time, I don't
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: remember thinking it was bad. Now all I see is
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: Vin Diesel, and I can't watch Vin Diesel. Because he's
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: Vin Diesel, and I'm creeped out by him. I'm just like, oh,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: shut up.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like him. It wasn't Screamers.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: No, but I watched that in the recent years. It's
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: pretty entertaining. Yeah. Way more than I expected. I had
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: fun with Screamers.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: It's weird. Like, it's kind of creepy.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just a strange little universe that they build
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: where I'm like, when did this happen?
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: It's another one of those that'll just be on at
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: some weird hour, and I'll be like, what is this?
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh, it's that movie.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: I specifically sought it out. I was like, this is
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: one of those I never watched, and I feel like
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: I probably would have liked, but I just never got
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: around to it, and I found it.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: I'm still looking, you guys, but you're totally right.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 6: Well, do you have Amazon Prime?
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: No, they charge money for that.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 5: They do.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 6: Well, this wouldn't necessarily be your gateway to it if
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 6: you're a longtime fan of the Mystery Science Theater. But
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: the Riff Trax guys are now on Amazon Prime all
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 6: over the place. And so that's always a hoot.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: Actually, again, Misty told me this earlier today, so straight
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: line to you guys.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: That's not the one I'm thinking of, but that is... Again,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: that's more of like straight sci-fi with horror elements, which
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: is what every... Or with supernaturally mystical universe elements, which
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: is what every sci-fi movie does, and I wish they
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: would stop doing that.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 7: But.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: Well, that was 1998.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: When did.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: Event Horizon was 97.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: Still not the... It's not the schlocky horror I was
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: thinking of. I'm thinking it's a little more... just like, again,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: it wants to be like a standard horror movie, they
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: just happen to set it in space. Which Sphere is not.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: Sphere is a very sci-fi movie that they went, what
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: if we make a mystically crazy horror element to it? Oh, yeah,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: supposedly on, if you have Roku, there's now like some
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: new subsection channel of Roku that you can get that's
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: just included as part of it. And there is a
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: channel running 24-7, nothing but Mystery Science Theater. I think
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: there's also a Riff Track subsection, but like Mystery Science Theater,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: there's so many that it's.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 6: Just on a loop.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just going to loop. Yeah, so geeks, go
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: get yourself that, I guess.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: You know, I missed many classes in college so I
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: could hang out and watch Mystery Science Theater.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: At midnight, because, you know, back in the day. I
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: I think it was Andre.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That was just Thanksgiving for you.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: I think it was on a lot. Maybe I was
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: up that late.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 6: I'm wondering if there's... Oh, there's so many Halloween-oriented riff
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 6: tracks available on Prime right now. One being the Psychotronic Man. Nice. Who,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 6: you know, I don't want to give it away, but
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  Speaker 6: he kills people psychically.
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  Speaker 2: Is he Psychotronic? Oh, God, that's so good.
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  Speaker 1: We've watched that, haven't we?
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  Speaker 6: And by good, she means it's so awful that it's
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  Speaker 6: really funny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I am lowbrow. I am totally lowbrow.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say that about myself.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: And the incredible two-headed transplant.
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  Speaker 1: I was a completely annoying kid who did things like
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: Brazil and artsy movies. And then as I turned into
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: an adult, I was like... You're like, I'm going.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: To kill all those brain cells.
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  Speaker 1: This is rough. I just want to watch stuff blow up,
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  Speaker 1: which is like the most typical thing, American thing I
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  Speaker 1: could say.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to watch things blow up.
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  Speaker 6: Carnival of Souls.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 6: Is that something?
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  Speaker 2: In my book.
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  Speaker 6: Have we seen Carnival of Souls?
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  Speaker 2: Like the original... They did at least one remake. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like maybe two.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like there's a recent one, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I have the Smittle one at home that I think
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: I borrowed from Phillip like 12 years ago and still
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  Speaker 2: haven't given him back. And he didn't ask for it. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: I told him. I was like, I think I still
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  Speaker 2: have that. He's like, yeah, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So did you ever see the remake of Dr.
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  Speaker 6: Caligari?
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  Speaker 2: No. Oh, I like the original.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you would like the new one.
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  Speaker 2: How recent are we talking?
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  Speaker 1: Like in the 80s.
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  Speaker 2: Hmm. If they didn't get Tim Burton to direct it,
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  Speaker 2: they missed their window.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they did.
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  Speaker 2: Because if anything, like, you think at the time, if
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: you grew up watching Tim Burton movies, you were like, man,
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  Speaker 2: this guy is so cool and original. And you're like, oh, no,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: he stole everything from Tim Burton. Usually from German Expressionists. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was. I think it was a German.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. At least they gave it to a weird German. Yeah.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: That is fitting, I suppose.
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  Speaker 1: That's worth checking out if you haven't seen it.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not great, but it's a really
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  Speaker 1: good class.
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  Speaker 2: Again, I feel like I need to watch everything eventually.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just way, way behind.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much stuff. That's the problem. Like, when we
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  Speaker 1: start looking on- And.
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  Speaker 2: Usually I just fall asleep.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: I barely crack a movie a week anymore.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: Because it takes effort, right?
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 8: Because it's like- Because I'm doing this much.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: Well, no, but you know what I mean? And then
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: you want to go to sleep, and.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: Then- editing and planning the next episode and trying to
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: spin six other plates and then i'm like now let's
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: watch a movie and then i.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 6: Immediately go to sleep so yeah cyborg cop 2 electric boogaloo.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: Have we seen cyborg.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 6: Cop i want to say that we have.
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  Speaker 1: We've watched a lot of bad movies That's kind of like.
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  Speaker 2: Seems to be.
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  Speaker 6: We've been on a kick here.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: And again is why we need to just do this more.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: We need to pick specific ones and we can start
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: talking about them at great length.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: What do we want to talk about in our next...
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: Let's pick a movie.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I can do this.
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  Speaker 2: Do we need it to be horror or do we
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: think we'll get back in time? There's only a few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Before we miss that Halloween window. Well, I'm going to
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: be out of town next week.
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  Speaker 2: We can not specifically pick horror. We can just pick bad,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: and then we can assign that for our next get-together.
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  Speaker 2: It could be horror. Coincidentally. There's never a bad time
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  Speaker 2: to watch a horror movie.
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  Speaker 9: No, I agree.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: So feel free to pick horror.
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  Speaker 6: Once the daylight starts to slip away.
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  Speaker 1: Have we ever talked about this movie, and it's terrible,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a horror movie? And I've probably mentioned it
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  Speaker 1: on here before because I'm a broken record. It's like
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  Speaker 1: Terror at 40,000 Feet. Okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: I know the title. I'm trying to think.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: William Shatner on a plane.
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  Speaker 2: That's a Twilight Zone episode.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: Returning from England with parts of a haunted castle on board.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, how have I not seen this?
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: You have not seen this?
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: So you're saying this is the next episode. We're going
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: to watch this.
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  Speaker 1: If it exists in some.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it can get near as horrifying... as
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: a recent episode of Columbo that I watched where William
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: Shatner had a mustache.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you something? Do you enjoy weird Columbo episodes?
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: I kind of, I mean, it's another one. I don't
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: seek it out, but I watch a lot of me
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: TV and they just play Columbo on a loop some nights.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, I kind of love Peter Falk anyway,
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: but like the, the, the parade of guest stars that
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: show up, like, 80s era, or maybe even early 90s
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: era Williams. Because I think it was the comeback. Oh,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: the second round of Columbo. Yeah, that last ditch effort
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: of like, let's get some more Columbos made. And like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? It's terrible because I can show you
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: his mustache. I took a picture of the TV. Because
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: people were not... Again, I was going to see Misty
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: the next day. I'm like, oh no. I'm trying to
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: describe to her how bad it is over the internet.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: And it's not going to do it. I need to visually...
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: show you how pretend this mustache is because it's not
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: even really a mustache and it's disturbing. You will feel
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: pain in your soul when you see it. Just hold
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: on a second.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 6: While he's looking at that, so is it terror at 40,000 feet?
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 6: I think so. Or is it nightmare at 20,000 feet?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you know, I have a
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: tendency to get.
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  Speaker 2: That's the Twilight Zone episode.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: I have a tendency to get names wrong. But I'm
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: pretty sure.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: Or the horror at 37,000 feet.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe it's that.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe I rounded up.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: I rounded up. Prepare yourself. This is going to be terrible.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: It's William Shatner with a pretend not really a mustache.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: What the fuck?
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: What the fuck is that? What is on his lip?
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: First of all, it's barely there. It's like he's 12
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: years old. On top of that, why is it so high?
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: Look at all this empty space above his lip.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: That's where you should be putting a mustache, dude. What
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: the fuck is that?
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 6: That is weird.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: What is that? So if you watch Columbo, do you
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: ever catch a, God, what's the James Gardner thing? Rockford Files?
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: Rockford Files. So I love Rockford Files.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen much of that lately. I remember it
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: being on back in the day more than anything.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: It's on that same thing.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: But I've heard, yeah, I've heard it's back.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: So let me tell you my favorite thing about it.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: It's bad, but I just like to see how high
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: he pulls his pants up. There's some episodes where it's like,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: I guess he has on a girdle, maybe?
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: James Garner is really cool. So he can pull his
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: little pants as high as he wants.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: There was one episode where I swear his pants were
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: like up to here. And so anytime it's on, I'm like,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: what is the James Garner waist to pant ratio of
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: this episode?
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: I have watched a couple of episodes of Maverick lately.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: There's one where they went to hang him.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: Or his pants today. His pants were.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: Not that high back in the olden days. They were
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: like to here.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 6: No, no.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: He was pretty cool as Maverick, though. Gotta say.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: The pant to waist ratio is way off. What is this?
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: Is this what we were talking about?
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: This is horror at 37,000 feet. Okay, we'll figure out
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: which one is the right one and we'll watch that.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: That's our assignment for the next time we get together.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: Pan Am was still an airline.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, that has to be it. It was Pan Am.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: And I think followed by that was Manitou. I think
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: that was the next movie that came on after that.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: So that's next after that. We're planning our upcoming episodes.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Do you remember Manitou?
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: Again, I know it by title. I feel like I
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: should have seen it, but I don't remember watching it.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: How do I have such a weird working knowledge of
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: bad 70s B-movies?
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: That seems to be your jam. So let's go with it.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: Let's feed off of it for upcoming episodes. So. You
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: guys also have your assignment. In between now and then,
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: figure out which one we're talking about.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: And then I have to write a treatment for our.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: And, yeah, start a bourbon town or whatever the hell
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: our show and or spinoff horror movie is going to be.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: So these are all things we need to get done
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: before next we get together.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: Also, to bring it full circle, I painted my fingernails
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: pumpkin spice.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: You're such a basic bitch. That's what I keep seeing.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 7: Everybody.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: Everybody that refers to anything pumpkin spice now, they're just like,
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: basically such a bitch.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 6: You can watch the entire movie on YouTube.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: That's a plus.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 6: Well, there you go.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: So what's it called?
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: We can all watch it.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 6: Horror at 37,000 feet.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: Horror at 37,000 feet. All right, there's your assignment. 1973.
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  Speaker 2: Somewhere in the near future, we'll be back to discuss
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: that movie and probably some other bad movies. So prepare
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: yourself now.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: I'll be more awake next time.
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  Speaker 5: I doubt that.
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  Speaker 2: So is there anything else to pass along? Assuming we
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  Speaker 2: don't get back before the 31st, would you like to
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: wish everyone a happy Halloween?
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: Happy Halloween.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: Enjoy your pumpkin spices, you basic bitches.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, queen.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: Happy whore.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: Whore. Whore.
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  Speaker 7: Happy whore.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: Happy whores.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: I said whore, but it came out whore.
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  Speaker 2: Whores. Happy whore.
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  Speaker 6: Whore.
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  Speaker 1: Lazy tongue.
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  Speaker 2: Whore.
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  Speaker 4: Whore.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: Whore.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise that about does it we will return next time
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: same geek feed thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 11: This monster came.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 7: Upon the scene in cinema scope on a wide wide
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 7: screen He flipped his.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 10: Tail and the mountain broke Wiggly.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 7: Hoof and he puffed with fire.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 11: And smoke.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 4: Suddenly there in the dark by heck Well I felt
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 4: two arms around my neck.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: At first I shivered and I shook with fright.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 7: Then I saw what it was holding me tight. Well,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 7: the clinging to me was.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: A scared female.
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  Speaker 7: Swinging this chick with a ponytail.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 11: Chick with a ponytail Each.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 7: Time she heard the monster roar She closed her eyes
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 7: and couldn't look more.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: And when that movie show.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 6: Was through, well, I took her home like she wanted
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 6: me to.
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  Speaker 11: We saved our nickels and we saved our dimes.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 7: We saw that movie 14 times.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 11: We saw that movie 14 times.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 7: We saw that movie 14 times.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: I was there this morning, and yesterday I was there twice.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: I have a problem.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: I think you should go in and scream Code Meltdown
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: every time. I'm sure they'll be like, what are you
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: talking about? But if you go online, it totally works.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: They're probably like, oh, poor Gina has finally lost it.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: One too many lattes. It's flipped out her brain.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: Too much pumpkin spice.
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