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Pulling Strings from the Grave - Yakuza Kiwami - Summary · Replay Reviews

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Thank you for coming back from our replay reviews.
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My name is Leah.
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And my name is Cathy.
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We are two friends who are here to replay, review, and analyze your favorite video games.
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And since Cathy has never seen the games before, it helps me view them through her fresh eyes,
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We hope it will be a similar experience for you.
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It's been a long time.
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I'm not sure I recorded.
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I'm not sure I recorded.
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I just already bumped it.
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Bumped it to my face.
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I was like, I told you I wasn't going to do that.
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And immediately after I hit it.
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Hello.
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Welcome to the Yakuza Kiwami summary episode.
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Topic one is just called Kazama.
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The main question is really how much of this game is part of Kazama's plan?
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And my answer is everything, whether it's directly related or indirectly related.
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And I am a firm believer that Kazama planted Haruka's presence in Kiryu's life.
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And this is by far probably the most manipulative action that we've seen from him.
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Because who does that?
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Who plants a child in someone's life knowing that they can manipulate them?
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And even though Kazama is dead, I'm sure that he still is going to be changing the game.
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Haruka being at such a young age is going to carry out throughout the rest of the games.
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And maybe something that she does or triggers is going to be something that Kazama planned
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in the past.
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We both commented when he talked about her father trying to kill her.
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He never addresses Haruka by name.
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He says this child.
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This child is Yumi's daughter.
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It's just so disrespectful.
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He's just so smart in this entire game.
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I'm curious if we think that he knew he was going to die or if he knew how he was going
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to die.
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That's a good question.
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So I guess the third part too is with Kazama's plans in this game, we know that Kazama is
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the one who gave Nishiki when he had his own family some really crappy dudes.
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And he probably knows that Nishiki is stronger than Kiryu and so he's all for having some
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Nishiki slander put out there and just trying to ruin his reputation.
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You think that Kazama is the one who's spreading all this rumor that Nishiki is a weak leader
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and probably refuses to give money to Nishiki to heal his sister and just in general making
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him look so terrible just so Kiryu can look good.
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It wouldn't surprise me.
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I don't know that we have evidence but it wouldn't surprise me at all.
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And one of my points in my paragraph is that he finds out that Nishiki is the one who killed
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Dojima but he doesn't do anything to stop Nishiki's trajectory.
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He just lets it happen.
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So maybe what we didn't see is him sort of trying to trigger the downfall of Nishiki.
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Maybe that's his way of getting back at him.
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I also don't really know why Kazama would be mad with Dojima being out of the picture.
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So here's a wild theory that I have.
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Do you think that Kazama purposely made up a situation where Dojima could attempt to
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rape Yumi knowing that either Kiryu or Nishiki is going to be the one who saves her, may
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or may not be killing Dojima in the process knowing that if Kiryu kills him he goes to
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jail that's going to boost up his street cred?
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I think it depends on how far back this 10 billion plan started.
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I would say probably not just because and I think I kind of answered my own question
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which is why would he care if Dojima was out of the picture.
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It gives the Kazama family a bad name if one of their members kills them which would be
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Nishiki because Kiryu's with a Dojima family right?
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So he wouldn't really want Nishiki to be the one killing him which might answer a question
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that I have later on.
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So I don't think he did but again I wouldn't put it past him.
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I feel about this guy the way you feel about Madison from Heavy Rain.
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Yes.
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Okay so let me launch into my response.
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So I think at least 80% of it I don't think he really intended to get shot but I also
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don't think he was surprised either because as I've already mentioned he had the opportunity
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to do something about Nishiki earlier but didn't.
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In general the biggest red flag for me that indicates this being just mass manipulation
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is the fact that Kazama and Yumi too actually knew the truth about the missing 10 billion
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yet Kazama only says take care of Yumi and the 10 billion when he gets shot.
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And then I even added in some devil's advocate here so someone could even say that okay he
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was shot, he was in pain, he might not be able to talk effectively.
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And we also learned from Shinji in part three that Kazama has yet to regain consciousness.
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So you could argue potentially the chance that Kazama never really had an opportunity
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to help Kiryu except that in part six he's able to talk just fine after taking the brunt
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of a grenade blast.
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So I feel like he would be able to you know get a few more coherent words at after being
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just shot in the shoulder.
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And then also in part four Nishiki tosses a bug receiver to Kiryu and we hear Shinji
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address Kazama directly saying Kazama we're here.
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I think Kazama has regained consciousness at this point and he could have called Kiryu
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at any time from part four on but he doesn't.
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In part six we learn first of all Kazama says sorry I've put you through a lot so number
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one we have a little bit of an indication that he even sees his responsibility in this
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whole situation but also and this is what I just realized this time making my notes.
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When Yumi was missing Sunflower contacted Kazama immediately because that's where
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she went when she fled the hospital.
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So she was never missing to Kazama.
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Why when Shinji is visiting Kiryu in prison does he tell Kiryu Yumi is missing and that
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Kazama and Nishiki are looking for her?
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I don't know if Kazama knows that Kiryu and Yumi have something going on between them.
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It might be one of those things where it's like starting a sentence that's like I shouldn't
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tell you this and it just piques your curiosity right?
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I think Shinji truly doesn't know but Kazama is using Shinji's innocence in this situation
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as a vehicle so I think it's almost a way for Kazama to have a secret to have some leverage
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on Kiryu and Nishiki by keeping Yumi's whereabouts.
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Kazama is the only one who has an answer so he's a few steps ahead and he wants to keep
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the secret to himself so he can use it when he needs to.
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Either way he's still trying to withhold the truth from Kiryu which is kind of sketchy.
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We also learn in part 6 that Kazama figures out Kiryu was innocent but he didn't try
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to get him out of prison.
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I mean is this Kazama's way of I suffered in prison therefore you must also suffer in
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prison?
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I don't know.
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I don't know but that is pretty shitty in my opinion.
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It's pretty sickening.
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Like 10 years for something that you didn't do and someone knows and they don't do anything
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about it?
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Okay, continuing on, next point.
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I don't believe for a second that Kazama was not keeping tabs on Haruka and I would even
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believe that he or Yumi convinced Haruka to search for Mizuki in the first place which
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is basically what you were saying which is Haruka was sort of used as a pawn as a way
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to get Kiryu into this whole situation.
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So to tie this all together, we know Kazama started this whole situation by stealing the
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10 billion, he knew Nishiki was not to be trusted but instead of stopping him early
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on he'd plant Shinji as a spy, placing him in danger, he knew Kiryu was innocent but
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left him to be attacked by forks in prison for 10 years, he conceals the truth about
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Yumi for over 10 years letting Kiryu believe she's missing, he does not tell Kiryu the
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truth about Yumi, the 10 billion or Haruka when he most likely had opportunity to, Yumi
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gave Haruka vital information about getting Kiryu to Aris and it's not impossible to
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assume that she fed other information to Haruka as well or even told her to find Mizuki.
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Aris, the vital location in all of this was created by Kazama so like 100% this whole
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game was his plan but I do think just some things happened that he didn't hope would
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happen.
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Karly It sounds about right, sounds like a really
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good summary.
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Evie Do you want to launch into our second Kazama
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topic which is who has he sacrificed quote unquote to ensure plan success?
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Karly I feel like the better question would have
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been who has Kazama not sacrificed because it seems like everyone, whether they're directly
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sacrificed or indirectly, but from the list, and I'm cheating because you already wrote
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this list, but it's Tachibana, Shinji, Nishiki, Sera, Haruka, and Kiryu in a way not quite
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there yet with the sacrifice in the same level as he's still alive which holy cow everyone
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in that list, everyone besides Haruka is dead.
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Evie Right?
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Karly That's rough.
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Yeah.
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Evie Yeah.
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I broke it down into the two games that we've played so far so Y0 I said Tachibana, Makoto,
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she wasn't killed but she was definitely used and she had to sacrifice a lot, and Oda which
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in parenthesis I put oh well because he's a snake but yeah those three people were definitely
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used by Kazama and Tachibana paid with his life and Makoto paid with everything that
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she cared about pretty much.
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And then in this game I broke it down to direct and indirect.
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So indirectly Sera, I don't think that he killed him, I think Nishiki killed him, but
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he died and he was part of the plan.
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Nishiki, I definitely think he was manipulated by Kazama.
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Yumi, dead.
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Haruka, a child, unforgivable, and Kiryu.
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Kiryu gets used by Kazama.
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Two games in a row, not okay.
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And then directly I said you know even maybe Nishiki was direct.
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It could have been.
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Even Kiryu.
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Even Haruka.
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Apparently Yumi made her own decision so we'll leave her indirect but directly-
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Was she misled?
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I mean here's the thing, Kazama is so smart.
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The fact that Kiryu and Mili says it's okay with everything you've done, all the crap
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and BS that you pulled, that's just how easily people can be manipulated around just being
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just directly reaching out to Kazama.
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So I feel like even though Yumi got a choice, did she really get a choice or was she talked
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into making that choice thinking it's her own choice when it wasn't?
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I agree with you.
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I'm giving Kazama the benefit of the doubt.
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I'm trying to do that a lot in this topic.
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It's not easy though.
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There's a lot stacked against him.
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But yes, people directly sacrificed by Kazama.
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Number one, Shinji.
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This man.
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He- he breaks my heart.
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The best sworn brother replacement ever.
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This Shinji is the best and he was sacrificed and it is inexcusable.
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And then also directly affected is the Mizuki double, which I will explain in a minute.
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So the transition between our second point and our third point is when we're talking
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about sacrifices, do you think that Kashiwaki was used in any way?
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I feel like he somehow factors into Kazama's plan in terms of needing someone who's like
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your COO to be clean and I use that in quotes.
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Just someone who isn't wrapped up in Kazama's manipulative behaviors and plans and whatnot.
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While Kazama's out there like scheming and manipulating people.
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He just needed someone he could trust to do everything without questioning him.
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I agree Kazama.
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It's like this is all just a game to him.
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He loves these grandiose plans and it's like he's addicted to it.
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And he leaves Kashiwaki to get things done, to run the actual Yakuza enterprise.
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And so I think you're 100% right on that part.
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I think Kashiwaki's smart and I think he knows what Kazama's up to.
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But I think he's okay with it and probably the benefits he receives from it secondhand.
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And then even the fact that he tells Nishiki not to tell Kazama when he gave him a second
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chance, I feel like that's proof that he knows Kazama well and how he operates and he just
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sort of lets it happen.
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I mean if it doesn't affect him, he's not going to stick his neck out.
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Right.
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But he always shows up with a truck full of men wielding baseball bats.
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Are we ready for our burning questions?
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Yes.
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Alright, so first question.
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Was Kiryu ever truly dedicated to Nishiki?
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My answer is I think he thought he was.
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We see him protect Nishiki a lot, like distancing himself from him and Y-Zero.
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But other than that, what do we see that goes beyond a friend or sworn brother relationship?
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In this game, all we really see him do for Nishiki is take the fall for killing Dojima
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and then never outing him as the killer when he has the opportunity to.
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Yeah, everything up starting from Y-Zero all the way through him going to prison, I would
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say yes.
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I mean, Yakuza Zero.
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I have to go back to chapter 6 in that one where he pretty much tells him to stay away
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and I don't want to hurt you if you're in my circle.
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So that's like true dedication.
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Well, it could have been that Kiryu's sitting in jail and he's like, why is Nishiki not
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visiting me?
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And you know what?
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Screw that.
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And maybe that might be the reason.
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But yes, everything up till going to jail for him, true dedication afterwards, he probably
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doesn't care that they're in the same bubble, but they don't see each other on that same
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day to day basis that he used to.
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And just when you're not in that same bubble, you probably just don't care about people
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as much.
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Well, yeah, in this game, we don't see Kiryu do enough for Nishiki.
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Having been in prison for 10 years, do you think that Kiryu wanting to see for himself,
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as he puts it, would include more than one phone call and one face to face meeting?
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He doesn't do anything to try to bring Nishiki back.
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You know, he so quickly accepts that Nishiki's gone after one face to face meeting.
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These two people grew up in an orphanage together.
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Nishiki had earned more of Kiryu's benefit of the doubt, but also Kiryu's effort in
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bringing him back to who he used to be.
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If we can go back again to Chapter 6 of Yakuza 0, Nishiki says, if you're not with me,
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I'm useless, nothing means anything, and Kiryu responds, me too, we're the same.
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Kiryu also says, this is the life you just gave me.
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And you can't try harder to help Nishiki?
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And the fact that as soon as he's out of jail, one conversation and he's like, I'm
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not, but then he strikes up a friendship, that same level of dedication to Date and
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to just random people.
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It's just so frustrating to see that.
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Is he dead to you?
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My goodness, why are you just ignoring him and also befriending all these other people?
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Are they two like replaced Nishiki?
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How do we get from I owe you my life to, you know, I had one meeting with you and you're
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just, I can't know, like you're gone, we're done.
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I mean, how do you not try harder to fight for him?
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Right?
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And this is the same person who pulled you back from killing the people at the end of
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Y0.
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He was fighting Shibusawa and he almost killed him.
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And it was Nishiki who pulls him back from crossing that line.
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And he's somewhat thankful-ish during the end of Y0 for just not crossing that line.
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And he's like, I'm going to be doing the Yakuza my way kind of thing.
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Have you forgotten that?
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Have you forgotten that if it wasn't for Nishiki, you would have been a Kazama?
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Right.
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And even going back to Y0, what did Nishiki do to be there for Kiryu?
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He was ready to kill him, to save him from horrendous, horrendous torture.
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And then when Kiryu said, we're done, like, it's not safe for you.
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What does Nishiki do?
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He comes back and says, I don't care if it's dangerous.
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I'm fighting with you.
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But all Kiryu does is just this one meeting.
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You're not going to dig a little deeper and try to unlock some memories?
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Like really?
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Because he shot Kazama in the shoulder?
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But also, from Nishiki's perspective, it's like as soon as he wasn't side by side with
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Kiryu anymore, Nishiki doesn't exist.
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It's like no one cares about Nishiki anymore.
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And it's so unfair because the moment Nishiki wasn't side by side with Kiryu, it's
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almost as if there's no one holding him back.
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He's sort of, he just blossomed without having to be in Kiryu's shadow.
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And I think that's what's also frustrating is that Nishiki was always in his shadow.
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Kiryu has only ever been truly dedicated to Kazama, even to the point that he takes his
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words so absolute that he would abandon his brother far, far, far sooner than he should
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have.
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That pretty much summarizes it.
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Digging into that question made me so mad.
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Okay, do you want to launch us into our second burning question?
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Yes.
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So the next part is who ordered the hit on Kiryu and why?
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And this is going to be a wild theory, but I think it's Maijima.
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Like we know not- Oh.
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Oh, okay.
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I thought we had different hints.
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Oh.
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Yes.
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Well, right after Kiryu is released from prison, Maijima is already like pushing Kiryu's limits
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of wanting to fight and everything and saying that, oh, you've gone mushy, you've gone
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soft.
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So it would make sense that Maijima actually ordered it knowing that Kiryu isn't going
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to die in prison.
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I think we both know that and there's good enough security.
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So Maijima is like, dude, let's try to just find ways to keep him in shape, keep him in
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Yakuza fighting shape.
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And it's this way of pushing Kiryu's buttons without needing to physically fight him or
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physically be there to fight him himself.
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I like this theory, number one, because my follow-up question was, why did whoever ordered
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this hit not follow up and try again?
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So that answers that question because he doesn't really want him dead.
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He just wants him to fight.
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He just wants him in shape.
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That makes total sense.
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And I also feel like Maijima would be the kind who'd be like, oh, tell them it was Sarah
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who ordered the hit.
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Oh, and use a fork, please.
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So I 100% would believe that it's Maijima.
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My theory is it was Sarah.
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And here's why.
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It's due to my extensive deep distrust of Kasuma because our biggest issue and why we
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have this question of who ordered the hit on Kiryu is because in the previous scene,
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Shinji is giving Kiryu his expulsion letter and Kiryu's like, it should be a full out
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banishment.
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I killed a patriarch.
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And so why is Sarah being soft and then trying to kill him?
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That doesn't add up.
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And so my theory is because Shinji says, Kasuma-san told me to give this letter of expulsion to
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you.
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It didn't come directly from Sarah.
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It came from Kasuma.
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Maybe he went over Sarah's head here in a way.
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And Sarah's like, nah.
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If someone kills a patriarch, they have to pay.
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And that's one half of this potential theory.
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The other half is Sarah knows that Kiryu needs to be put to death.
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And he's probably too good of a leader to allow suspicions to arise by letting Kiryu
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live.
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So maybe he sent the expulsion instead of the banishment just to appease Kasuma, but
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then later ordered this hit on Kiryu because he has to pay for what he did.
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It makes sense because Sarah is really black and white.
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You either did something and you're okay, or you did something wrong and you're going
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to get punished.
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And no matter who you are, you're going to get the punishment that you deserve for whatever
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crimes you did.
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So I could see Sarah not playing favorites and saying that you kill them, you own up
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to it, and I'm going to hassle and kill you.
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Topic three.
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Let's do it.
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This topic is just anything else.
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These are just small tidbits that we found that we wanted to discuss.
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So the first one is about Yumi's character arc, and she's one of the few females we
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know how much we love, Reina, so I was going to talk about someone else.
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So at Yumi, and I'm wondering if we think she is the villain in Nishiki's perspective.
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Like, yeah, I think Nishiki had a crush on her, but I mean, it turns sour pretty quickly,
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right?
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Well, it's more than that, though.
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They all grew up together.
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So even if the feelings were mutual, there should still be some kind of love and respect
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after growing up in an orphanage together, right?
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But no, everything, the fallout that happens in the very last episode, or the very last
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chapter where Nishiki fights back and she just falls to the ground because she can't
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handle someone throwing it back at her face, even though it's well deserved.
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Like, how- Doesn't he just say, like, shut up or something?
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She just immediately crumbles.
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Right?
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I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh.
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I shouldn't laugh.
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No, it's for a really ridiculous reason.
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And I feel like she is the villain in Nishiki's point of view.
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And I'm wondering if Nishiki regrets killing.
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I mean, yeah, it's not cool to rape someone, but it's like, if he regrets not being the
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one- What?
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You think you wanted it to happen?
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You think he regrets stopping it?
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No, as in, like, letting her think that Kiryu is the prince in a way?
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Damn, I thought you were going so dark with that.
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Thank goodness.
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Oh no, I'm sorry, I shouldn't clarify.
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It's not that, like, regrets, if Nishiki regrets not clarifying with her that, hey, Kiryu isn't
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the one who killed you, because we know she has the memory loss and everything.
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So wait, maybe Nishiki-
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But she regains it.
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She regains her memory when Sarah and Jingu try to kill her.
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She sees Kazuma's gun and remembers all her memories.
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So she would know at that point when Haruka is still a little baby, that Nishiki is the
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one that killed him.
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Yeah, you're right.
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Yeah.
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And she still scolds him like a child.
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She parents him more than she parents Haruka.
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I know.
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She's a terrible parent to Haruka.
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First of all, Haruka could have died and she wouldn't have known or cared or done anything
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to stop that.
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Well, and I'm going to place my child in an orphanage because I want to steal 10 billion
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of her father's money just to get back at him.
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How selfish.
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The next game we play, I'm going to need you to pick a game with a stronger female lead.
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Don't say that.
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Oh my god, Lee, I'm looking at your face.
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I'm looking at season three.
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I'm looking at season three.
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Dude, that means the next game's in season two.
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Aren't you going to have a strong female lead?
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Well, here's the thing.
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One of them hasn't been released yet.
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The rest of them, no.
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But there's still the Kathy's Choice wild card.
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There's a strong woman in F**k You, but she's not a lead.
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I think you like her.
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Yeah, that's fine.
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I need a female character where she can protect herself.
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She would have slapped Nishiki across the face and got some sense into him.
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That's what I'll say.
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My first anything else topic is inconsistency surrounding Mizuki.
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I was rewatching the meeting between Kiryu and Nishiki and then Nishiki starts discussing
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Mizuki, right?
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Things do not add up.
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It's wild.
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So number one, Nishiki says that they accidentally killed Mizuki, torturing her, correct?
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So issues with that.
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Number one, she dies, but Mizuki is Yumi, who is alive at the time.
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Sure, this person that sure was so high pitched.
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Oh my gosh.
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Sure.
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This person is likely the same person Date says was pulled out of the river so we know
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it's actually not Yumi, but so then who is it?
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It's easy enough to fake a body to look like Yumi, as Nishitani was planning to do
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in Y-Zero for Makoto, but even that plan required smashing in the devil's face to ensure correct
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identification.
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So who is this perfect replica?
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Tattoo and all.
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She didn't just have to be a convincing dead Mizuki.
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She had to be a convincing alive Mizuki.
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She had to be a perfect copy and withstand torture?
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Who would do this?
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Amiya wondering if Nishiki was fed bad news.
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It's the doubt and skepticism in Kazama.
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I always feel like Kazama is the one who spread the word that it's his people and he didn't
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see it himself, that he heard about it.
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Should we know that he was personally there to watch Mizuki die?
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Nishiki was there, yeah, because remember he unloaded his clip into one of his men.
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Oh yeah.
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So he was there when it happened.
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I was almost going to blame Kazama for it, but...
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Well let me continue because I will find a way to blame him.
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So if it was Kazama and the Forger woman, I forget her name, my apologies, but did Kazama
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and the Forger base Mizuki's looks on this random woman who was unfortunate enough to
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look exactly like Yumi?
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And in that case, was she just shouting, I'm not Mizuki, I'm not Mizuki when she was being
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tortured?
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And the second issue with Nishiki saying that they killed her is, he then continues on later
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in this scene, like three sentences later, to say, Mizuki opened Aris and then she fell
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off the map.
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You just said that you killed her, how did she fall off the map, you killed her!
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So like, did Nishiki know it wasn't Mizuki he was torturing?
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If so, then why torture her?
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All I can think is that this was a woman very committed to Kazama, Yumi, and Sarah's plan,
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and so she was like, I'll be the body double and I'm going to stand up to torture.
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But if that's true, and Nishiki figured it out, then why would he like hide that fact?
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And why would he say that, oh, Mizuki died, but then say, oh, Mizuki fell off the map?
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It's like, you just contradicted yourself in front of Kiryu.
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It doesn't add up at all.
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Who is this woman?
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You're right.
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And who is this woman who's willing to die for a cause?
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Nobody!
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That person doesn't exist!
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Yeah, I don't understand.
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Right?
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Is Kazama like brainwashing people and Nishiki's one of the victims?
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Unless that was Yumi, and the people who were torturing her, Kazama got to them and convinced
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them to work for him and pretend like she's dead.
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But that seems like a really high risk situation.
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But what about the gun shooting?
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I don't think they shot her.
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There's a cut on her neck though, and it looks pretty like it would kill you.
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I think it's just a plot hole.
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I was going insane watching this scene.
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And some of it you could account to translation error, the whole falling off the map thing,
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but not the whole scene of him torturing her.
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That's not translation error.
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That was animated.
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I don't even have an answer for you.
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I feel like this needs to go on Reddit.
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Alright, and then we both had, for our topic, the empty lot.
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And you sounded pretty excited, so mine are pretty short, maybe I'll go first?
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I'll let you go first.
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So in Y0 we saw Nishiki deeply impacted at the empty lot when Makoto and Tachibana reunited,
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so to speak.
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And now Nishiki has died at the same location as Tachibana, but not only that, he's having
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his own tragic reuniting with Kiryu, it's the same thing.
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Two tragic reuniting and a death.
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It's the same thing.
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This lot is cursed.
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It is cursed with Tachibana's blood that did not deserve to be spilled.
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Well that's the thing though, Tachibana's memorial is right there on that empty lot.
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That's what we see in that last scene, right?
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That Makoto is planting her reunion.
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And that building is on the empty lot.
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This building is on the empty lot.
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And Tachibana has always wanted the most power that in the beginning he only had half power.
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This is full power, Millennium Tower is the most powerful building, right?
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In a way, Tachibana has just resurrected to be this building.
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Is Tachibana haunting the building?
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Yes, that's my theory.
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This is like, it's not even this, this is the pride, the joy that this is what Tachibana
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wanted and because he can't physically be there, he's going to be there in spirit in
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the form of a building that has just the power and the strength of just everything that is
32:12
Tachibana is now embodied in this building.
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Did he win?
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Did he win?
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I think he did.
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Or did the Yakuza win?
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Oh my gosh.
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Right?
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Dude.
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This is the whole circle that we're talking about.
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This is why I was so excited last night when I made this conclusion.
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And I was like, Tachibana is literally the foundation of this building.
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Yes!
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Figuratively and literally.
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Oh my gosh.
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Right?
32:43
I felt so proud.
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Tachibana is the building.
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Coming up with this idea, I don't know if it's true, but I feel very, very proud of
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coming to this realization.
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It's crazy.
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Okay, but you know what's really wild?
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What?
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So I'm going to Japan in a few months.
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And we're actually staying in the city that Yakuza is based off of for half of our trip.
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And they just built a skyscraper in that.
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I'm kind of freaked out.
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Like it was just built.
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I'm kind of freaked out.
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You should write something on a bunch hand that says for Tachibana and put it at the
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corner or at the bottom of it and just dedicate it to him.
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I hope I'm okay when I go to the empty lot, you guys.
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Well, I feel like Tachibana is there to protect the building.
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He knows I'm on his side.
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I'll bring him some...
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I'll bring him a prosthetic foot as an offering.
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I feel bad even saying that.
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He's not a real person.
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On that note, should we move on to our last topic?
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The KFC Awards.
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I'm so excited.
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And so I'm going to give you one, two, three, four, four people, and I want you to guess
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who you think.
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And I'll start out easy, Kiryu because he's the main character.
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Haruka because she's just so cute and at times she's like more mature than everyone else.
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Talk about strong female character.
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She's going to be one.
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Nishiki because he redeemed himself and Shinji.
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I mean the man, the myth, legend.
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Shinji.
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Hang his trench coat in the rafters.
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No one can ever wear a trench coat ever again.
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Especially not with a purple silk shirt.
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It's taking people.
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Yes, you're right.
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I mean as much as Nishiki probably for Y's there, I feel like in this game, the Shinji
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just stole everyone's heart.
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How can you say no?
34:55
He had no faults except maybe trust in Cosmo, but he didn't know any better.
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I think he's a very underrated character.
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He is.
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Point two, let's talk about the Kentucky Scorcher.
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This might be just a little bit of a let down because I didn't send you any blind picks
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for this game because there's like two new characters.
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You already know their personalities even though some of them change a little bit.
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There's no blind pick unfortunately for this game.
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You have Sarah, you know how much I really appreciate his personality and everything
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and I think you just so pull it out.
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We're already on person.
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The fourth word you said was personality.
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I can't help it.
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It makes sense.
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But is he hot though?
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Yeah, I mean if you're into other men.
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Ask me when I'm older and I'll say yes.
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Okay, continue.
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Okay.
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Nishiki pre slap.
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I mean that's unfair, but it's Nishiki or Prison Kiryu with those massive forearms
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and biceps.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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No contest.
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It's Prison Kiryu because before we even got here like yesterday, I was thinking about
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what my guesses would be to your question of who is it.
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Like I forgot you listed them all off and so I was just gonna blind guess and I was
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going to say Prison Kiryu.
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So I have to stick with it.
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It's Prison Kiryu.
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I feel bad because I did highlight them and right before we started, I changed my answer
36:44
back to Nishiki and so you get half a point.
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I didn't see him at all.
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Oh no, no.
36:49
I was cleaning up my outline this morning.
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I changed it again.
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You changed your mind.
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Yeah, I changed my mind.
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So I'll give you half credit because up until this morning, yeah, it was Prison Kiryu.
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You know what though, maybe this is a little bit of proof that maybe personality doesn't
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always win out.
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Maybe you can slap a woman to the floor.
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Stop it.
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Murder her and still be attractive.
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Stop it.
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I mean, okay, Ted Bunny.
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Ted Bunny.
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It sounded like you said bunny and I cannot stop trying.
37:23
I am trying so hard to not laugh.
37:27
It's Ted Bunny.
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Ted Bunny.
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Ted Bunny.
37:30
He brings his dates bunnies before he kills them.
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It's even worse.
37:36
It's even worse.
37:38
You want to see a magic trick?
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Look over here and now you're dead.
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Stale biscuit.
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Stale biscuit.
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Kazama.
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I mean, yeah, we just went through a whole topic about him.
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Jingu because that man just literally tried to kill a child nonetheless his daughter.
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Yumi because she's freaking judgy and she just collapsed and crumbles to the ground
38:11
when she gets one little shut up and she's pretty snobbish.
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Date because he is a bad father.
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He loses Haruka multiple times and he's a pretty stale character.
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And yeah, those are one, two, three, four.
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This is hard because Kazama's a n***a.
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Yumi we don't like at all.
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Jingu has good claim to the throne.
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There's a lot of stale biscuits here.
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I think I have to say Jingu though.
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I feel like it's pretty unforgivable to try to kill your own child.
38:48
That's like, yeah.
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Yeah, but I think I wrote Kazama and I wrote everybody boo this man.
38:55
What?
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What did you write?
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I wrote everybody boo this man.
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Boo.
39:00
That sounded like a cow.
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I can't do it.
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That's what I would have picked.
39:05
Date is pretty stale for his character arc and everything, but really the stale biscuit
39:12
in our terms.
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I feel like it's Kazama like, yeah, Jingu, but he's only there for like 10 minutes if
39:18
any.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so I feel like Kazama for two games straight up disrespect to Nishiki.
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And I have to say he's my stale biscuit.
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I can't help but agree with you.
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I don't like him.
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All right.
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Anything else?
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Is that it?
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I think that's it.
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Wow.
39:43
That was a quick one.
39:45
But we also have this process down.
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Just over an hour.
39:48
We do.
39:49
Well, and also after editing the last episode, which raw was at two hours and 22 minutes,
39:54
I was like, never again, are we recording for that length of time?
39:57
The files were like two gigs.
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It was big.
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It was bad.
40:01
All right, so we are at the end of this game and that means we're going to be starting
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a new game next week.
40:07
So if you can guess what game this quote is from, damn things gonna be crooked by the
40:13
time I'm done with this city.
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40:17
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40:28
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40:32
So why not give it a shot?
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Should I count us out?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Let's do audacity on one, three, two, one.
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