Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / Hour 3: Covering 9/11
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- 0:00Speaker 1: For 25 years, they were hidden. For 25 years, we
- 0:06Speaker 1: didn't know, although we could guess and assume how dangerous
- 0:12Speaker 1: the air was in the remnants of 9-11, in the
- 0:16Speaker 1: remnants of the falling of the two towers. Now we know. Finally,
- 0:22Speaker 1: we know. The information that was stored in 68 boxes
- 0:26Speaker 1: in his city office is For a while, they said
- 0:29Speaker 1: it was missing. They just kept lying to us, administration
- 0:33Speaker 1: after administration after administration. And now we find out, thanks
- 0:38Speaker 1: to Mayor Zorin Mamdani, who released the files, released 170,000
- 0:43Speaker 1: pages of it, and that's not nearly all of it.
- 0:47Speaker 1: More is going to be released. I guess right now
- 0:50Speaker 1: it's being redacted, and I wish they would not redact
- 0:54Speaker 1: a line of it. But now we know that up
- 0:58Speaker 1: to three weeks after the fall of the towers, when
- 1:03Speaker 1: you had men and women on the pile looking for
- 1:07Speaker 1: bodies and trying to rebuild for months afterwards, there was
- 1:13Speaker 1: toxic air filled with asbestos and other poisons. And then
- 1:17Speaker 1: 10 months later, we find out that blocks away, asbestos
- 1:23Speaker 1: and poisons were still in the air. And all that time,
- 1:28Speaker 1: you had men and women on the pile, citizens, FDNY, NYPD,
- 1:34Speaker 1: people from across the country just trying to help, breathing
- 1:38Speaker 1: in poison day after day after day for hours on end,
- 1:45Speaker 1: breathing in poison. And the city knew and the city
- 1:50Speaker 1: did nothing. And so finally, there are some unions that
- 1:54Speaker 1: are speaking out about this. One union came out now.
- 1:57Speaker 1: I'm sure there's going to be others to follow. But
- 2:00Speaker 1: he was wonderful. I'm glad he was the first one
- 2:03Speaker 1: out of the box. FDNY Deputy Chief Jim Brasi. Jim
- 2:08Speaker 1: Brasi is the president of the United Firefighters Officers Association.
- 2:13Speaker 2: They went through great lengths to making sure you did
- 2:16Speaker 2: not know the totality of the situation and what they
- 2:19Speaker 2: knew when they made the choice to sacrifice its residents
- 2:23Speaker 2: and its first responders.
- 2:25Speaker 1: For what they believed was the greater good.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Right.
- 2:27Speaker 2: And that is the atrocity that happened after 9-11.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Absolutely. Using the word atrocity is exactly what he should
- 2:35Speaker 1: be used. You know how many people died because of
- 2:38Speaker 1: their lies? You know how many people died because of
- 2:41Speaker 1: information that was hidden from them? Thousands. There's people that
- 2:46Speaker 1: are sick still. There's people that are dying still.
- 2:49Speaker 2: It is appalling that they did this to us, despite
- 2:53Speaker 2: our willingness to knowingly go into that.
- 2:55Speaker 4: Environment repeatedly for long-term exposures, long after the acute exposure
- 3:01Speaker 4: of that day, to give dignity to the people that
- 3:04Speaker 4: were lost, to give the greatest possible effort towards a recovery,
- 3:08Speaker 4: and then hopes to put New York back on its
- 3:10Speaker 4: firm footing that it was on the days before 9-11.
- 3:13Speaker 1: And before anybody argues, well, it wouldn't have mattered. The
- 3:16Speaker 1: poisons were still going to be on the air. It
- 3:18Speaker 1: wouldn't have mattered. No, they could have had gear on.
- 3:20Speaker 1: And as Chief Brosny explains, there's a lot of things
- 3:24Speaker 1: they could have done if they just had the information.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Had they been more transparent about those toxins, we probably
- 3:30Speaker 2: would have stalled recovery, got better decon, set up better facilities,
- 3:35Speaker 2: set up better work rotations so that we could have
- 3:38Speaker 2: limited the exposure.
- 3:39Speaker 1: There has to be a further investigation. All the documents
- 3:42Speaker 1: must be released. This should be a federal investigation, not
- 3:46Speaker 1: a local investigation, because there's too many people who are
- 3:49Speaker 1: going to cover their own butts in this whole thing
- 3:51Speaker 1: and cover up for friends. This has got to be
- 3:54Speaker 1: a federal investigation, and I hope Donald Trump gets involved.
- 3:58Speaker 1: I certainly hope the Justice Department gets involved, because people
- 4:01Speaker 1: deserve Curtis to be in jail.
- 4:03Speaker 5: Now, I know there are many out there probably saying, hey, look,
- 4:07Speaker 5: United Firefighters Association, that's the members, and UFO, those are
- 4:12Speaker 5: the officers, are probably doing this to curry favor with
- 4:15Speaker 5: Joran Mondami. You couldn't be more hopelessly wrong. Having known
- 4:19Speaker 5: these men, having met with them, trying to get their
- 4:22Speaker 5: endorsement in the mayoral elections twice, I can assure you
- 4:26Speaker 5: there were no Mondami supporters in those meetings.
- 4:29Speaker 6: None!
- 4:29Speaker 2: None!
- 4:31Speaker 5: Eddie Brown was the treasurer, one of my greatest guardian angels.
- 4:34Speaker 5: He saved my life in New Orleans. I would have
- 4:36Speaker 5: been shot in the head and dead. He knew everybody.
- 4:38Speaker 5: He introduced me to everybody. These people are not supporters.
- 4:42Speaker 5: But they're so enraged. Yesterday at their annual commemoration in
- 4:47Speaker 5: Staten Island, they had this sign out that says 343
- 4:50Speaker 5: plus still counting. Because... They've had 12,000 firefighters diagnosed with
- 4:57Speaker 5: at least one illness and double the number who've died
- 5:01Speaker 5: since that day when the buildings collapsed. So more than
- 5:06Speaker 5: any other union, they are so attached to everything that
- 5:11Speaker 5: occurred and continues to occur. And unfortunately for Rudy Giuliani,
- 5:17Speaker 5: his response... was not good at all. Finally, a member
- 5:21Speaker 5: of his staff went on social networking and blamed the
- 5:25Speaker 5: federal EPA, which was run by Christine Whitman at the time,
- 5:29Speaker 5: the former governor of New Jersey appointed by Bush 43,
- 5:32Speaker 5: who said the air was clean. You could go into
- 5:35Speaker 5: the area, whether you were working there, going to school there,
- 5:38Speaker 5: living there, which many people also got sick as a
- 5:41Speaker 5: result of her order. She has since apologized. But that
- 5:46Speaker 5: doesn't exempt the city. The city has its own Department
- 5:49Speaker 5: of Environmental Protection. And the Giuliani spokesperson did not address that.
- 5:55Speaker 5: Michael Bloomberg, who's also implicated in this because he didn't
- 6:00Speaker 5: release any of these details. His response, I mean, is
- 6:05Speaker 5: mind boggling. And here's the guy who's going to host
- 6:07Speaker 5: the commemoration as he does every year. He has personally
- 6:11Speaker 5: funded the museum. and all the outreach that's been done
- 6:15Speaker 5: to try to inform not just tourists, but everyone of
- 6:19Speaker 5: what took place on that horrible day. And it seemed like,
- 6:23Speaker 5: maybe you can quote his post, but it didn't at
- 6:28Speaker 5: all make reference to the 170,000 documents. It seemed to
- 6:32Speaker 5: talk about just the rebuilding of lower Manhattan in the
- 6:36Speaker 5: aftermath of the attack.
- 6:38Speaker 1: No, that's what he said. He bragged. He bragged about
- 6:41Speaker 1: what he did on that day. His timing was horrible.
- 6:45Speaker 1: He was so tone deaf in all of this. But
- 6:48Speaker 1: let's remember, and look, please, please don't leave a talkback
- 6:53Speaker 1: talking about politics. There's no politics in this. There's none.
- 6:57Speaker 1: No politics. We're talking about Republican and Democratic administrations, all
- 7:03Speaker 1: that hid the information. They were all complicit. And listen,
- 7:08Speaker 1: I am not, a fan of Zoran Mamdani. I will
- 7:13Speaker 1: go back to criticizing him next week. I don't like
- 7:18Speaker 1: anything he's done. I think he's failed and failed and
- 7:21Speaker 1: failed and failed and failed. But I can give him
- 7:25Speaker 1: credit for this. And I don't want, I'm just getting
- 7:30Speaker 1: tired of the talkbacks going, oh, well, he just did
- 7:32Speaker 1: this to save his own butt. Maybe.
- 7:35Speaker 5: Maybe.
- 7:36Speaker 1: But the greater good is better than any self-interest. The
- 7:41Speaker 1: greater good is so great when we finally got this
- 7:44Speaker 1: information that to me, nothing else matters. And certainly it
- 7:49Speaker 1: should to you. And I know it does to the
- 7:52Speaker 1: first responders. And I know it does. They are so angry.
- 7:58Speaker 1: The ones that I used to go down with buses
- 8:00Speaker 1: on to Washington to fight for the James Zadroga Act,
- 8:06Speaker 1: to give them funding, to give them medical care as
- 8:09Speaker 1: they're dying? They're angry. Of course they're angry. They don't
- 8:14Speaker 1: know if they're next. There's many people alive today that
- 8:18Speaker 1: were there at the towers, at the rubble, who don't
- 8:22Speaker 1: know if they're next. No, no, no. There has to
- 8:25Speaker 1: be a reckoning on this.
- 8:27Speaker 5: So, Larry, four administrations have been faulted for hiding the records,
- 8:31Speaker 5: including the number one supporter of Zoran Mandami, Bill de Blasio.
- 8:36Speaker 5: So he didn't just go at his critics or his enemies. Obviously,
- 8:40Speaker 5: Adams did not support him. Bloomberg actually supported Cuomo with money.
- 8:44Speaker 5: And we know Rudy has no love for Mondami. But
- 8:47Speaker 5: de Blasio couldn't be more of a booster or a supporter.
- 8:51Speaker 5: So this report implicates all four administrations for hiding the
- 8:56Speaker 5: information and not being transparent. So there had to be
- 9:00Speaker 5: a calculated effort made. To keep these boxes out of sight,
- 9:05Speaker 5: out of mind with all the materials that we have
- 9:08Speaker 5: a right to see. Transparency. And you will have a portal.
- 9:12Speaker 5: And just like when we had the files, the obscene files.
- 9:17Speaker 5: And remember, they started posting them. There's going to be
- 9:19Speaker 5: a lot of files here. And you can all look
- 9:22Speaker 5: at it yourself and come to your own conclusions. But
- 9:25Speaker 5: at least it's out in the open now and not
- 9:28Speaker 5: being hidden.
- 9:28Speaker 1: But think about why they didn't release this. Think about it.
- 9:32Speaker 1: It's for money. It's because they didn't want to have
- 9:36Speaker 1: to pay the money. And that's it. That's the bottom line.
- 9:41Speaker 1: And that is what is so sinister, what's so despicable
- 9:46Speaker 1: about this. The human lives didn't matter. People could work
- 9:50Speaker 1: on the pile, doesn't matter. People could continue to die,
- 9:53Speaker 1: doesn't matter. As a matter of fact, they probably got
- 9:56Speaker 1: even more frightened when people were dying that oh no
- 10:00Speaker 1: we're going to be held responsible for this remember for
- 10:02Speaker 1: a while they pretended they didn't know where the the
- 10:05Speaker 1: files were yes they just lost them yeah and they
- 10:08Speaker 1: were never lost no that was a lie as well
- 10:10Speaker 1: let me let.
- 10:11Speaker 5: Me clarify they were in the city bureau of the
- 10:14Speaker 5: environmental protection uh organization that is a city agency Packed
- 10:20Speaker 5: in boxes. People knew where they were. This administration, Zohar Mandami,
- 10:25Speaker 5: found them three months ago and started going through them.
- 10:29Speaker 5: And now they're posting them. So maybe you say he
- 10:32Speaker 5: should have released them then. OK, but everything's political. That's
- 10:37Speaker 5: why I don't trust any politicians. You heard me say
- 10:39Speaker 5: that again and again. Friend or foe, I don't trust any.
- 10:42Speaker 1: All I care is they were released. That's it. That's it.
- 10:45Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. That's all I care about. When
- 10:48Speaker 1: we come back, a bald eagle has been spotted in
- 10:51Speaker 1: the city.
- 10:52Speaker 5: Oh, man. A bald eagle? First the otters in the
- 10:57Speaker 5: Bronx River, now a bald eagle in the Bronx? Is
- 11:00Speaker 5: it wearing a bulletproof vest? And the week of 9-11.
- 11:06Speaker 5: We will tell you where and in advance everything we're
- 11:10Speaker 5: going to be talking about tomorrow because that's what we're
- 11:12Speaker 5: dedicating this to, plus a chance to see Andrea Bocelli next.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Well, Natalie just had a wonderful observation saying that a
- 11:22Speaker 1: bald eagle has shown up in New York City on
- 11:26Speaker 1: the precipice of the 9-11 remembrance, the 25th remembrance. That
- 11:33Speaker 1: is incredible. You're right, and it's still here. And it's
- 11:36Speaker 1: being seen all around the Bronx.
- 11:39Speaker 6: What?
- 11:39Speaker 1: Looking majestic.
- 11:40Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 11:41Speaker 5: And we better get a bulletproof vest on that eagle.
- 11:44Speaker 5: Are you kidding? Are you kidding with the gang wars
- 11:47Speaker 5: that are going on there now? I could easily see
- 11:49Speaker 5: some guy say, watch me cap an eagle out of
- 11:51Speaker 5: the sky.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Well, while it lives, people think it's pretty special.
- 11:55Speaker 7: It's like a top 10 moment for me because I've
- 11:57Speaker 7: just never seen anything like that close that was so majestic.
- 12:04Speaker 7: It seems like it could just, you know, spread its
- 12:07Speaker 7: wings and just go after anything, you know, in the area.
- 12:10Speaker 7: So it was a little, it was a little weird
- 12:11Speaker 7: at first, but you know, it seemed to be just
- 12:14Speaker 7: hanging out.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Have you seen the picture of it? No, it is majestic.
- 12:18Speaker 1: It's big and it's majestic.
- 12:20Speaker 5: That's what I'm worried about.
- 12:21Speaker 1: It's like, it came right out of a painting. It
- 12:26Speaker 1: is just beautiful. And by the way, They said this
- 12:29Speaker 1: isn't the first one. They've been flying around the river
- 12:32Speaker 1: up there, and they also said that because this is happening,
- 12:36Speaker 1: and remember the otter that we saw a couple months ago? Yep,
- 12:38Speaker 1: Bronx River. Yeah, the Bronx River. That because of that,
- 12:42Speaker 1: it shows that things are getting cleaner, and the air
- 12:44Speaker 1: is getting cleaner, and the water is getting cleaner, and
- 12:46Speaker 1: now animals are starting to come back.
- 12:49Speaker 5: Oh, man. Better get out of the Bronx, bald eagle.
- 12:52Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 12:53Speaker 5: Get out of the Bronx quick.
- 12:54Speaker 8: Curtis, I know you said you didn't see him, because
- 12:56Speaker 8: he looks like out of Central Casting for a bald eagle.
- 12:58Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing?
- 12:59Speaker 5: He can protect himself.
- 13:01Speaker 1: It looks like a movie eagle.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely.
- 13:03Speaker 1: A Hollywood eagle. There's no doubt about it.
- 13:05Speaker 5: It's AI eagle. I'll redirect that eagle to a safer location.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Oh, just enjoy the wonder of it for a second
- 13:14Speaker 1: before saying it's going to be shot.
- 13:17Speaker 9: I have to say that the Girl Scout cookies, I
- 13:19Speaker 9: think they changed the recipe.
- 13:21Speaker 10: They just don't taste the same to me.
- 13:23Speaker 3: Either that or I got old and my.
- 13:25Speaker 5: Taste buds have changed.
- 13:27Speaker 11: Something's different to me.
- 13:29Speaker 12: I mean, I still buy them, of.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Course, but they're just not the same.
- 13:32Speaker 7: Does anybody else feel that way?
- 13:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, but I'm afraid to say something like
- 13:36Speaker 1: that because I don't want the Girl Scouts coming after me.
- 13:39Speaker 5: I'll tell you, I think they taste the same.
- 13:41Speaker 11: I really do.
- 13:41Speaker 5: Maybe a smidge smaller. Oh, the thin mints taste exactly
- 13:47Speaker 5: the same.
- 13:47Speaker 1: I agree, too. That's true.
- 13:49Speaker 4: I agree.
- 13:49Speaker 1: That's true. Not all of them taste as good as
- 13:52Speaker 1: they used to. I'll agree with you on that.
- 13:54Speaker 5: Go ahead. Say more. Say more. Come on, Larry. Say
- 13:59Speaker 5: what you really mean.
- 14:00Speaker 1: First he had the Taylor Swift people.
- 14:02Speaker 5: Now he's going to have all three girls count the
- 14:05Speaker 5: world after him.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Go for it, Larry.
- 14:09Speaker 3: Another great 9-11 movie is a documentary called The Man
- 14:14Speaker 3: in the Red Bandana. This follows what Wells Crother from Nyack,
- 14:22Speaker 3: New York, did to save at least six lives before
- 14:25Speaker 3: dying himself. And he was recently given the Presidential Medal
- 14:30Speaker 3: of Freedom. It's certainly worth a look.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Recently, just two days ago.
- 14:34Speaker 5: Yeah, the other day the president went on and recognized
- 14:37Speaker 5: his valor. in front of many of his peers and colleagues.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Yep. Why isn't anyone talking about the Charlie Kirk statue
- 14:46Speaker 1: being unveiled in the middle of Times Square today? It's beautiful.
- 14:51Speaker 11: Thank you.
- 14:52Speaker 5: We'll talk about it towards the end of the program.
- 14:54Speaker 5: I've got a lot to say about that.
- 14:56Speaker 6: How ironic that Zorin Madami, who Trump was vowed to
- 15:00Speaker 6: use as a poster child for inner-city communistic decay, and
- 15:05Speaker 6: who all the 9-11 victims want to prevent from attending
- 15:09Speaker 6: the ceremonies has turned the table on former Republican leadership
- 15:15Speaker 6: such as Bush and Whitman and former heroes such as
- 15:20Speaker 6: Giuliani by uncovering this entire scheme.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't do anything. They did this to themselves.
- 15:31Speaker 5: It is.
- 15:32Speaker 1: obscene that they hid this. And I don't care who
- 15:36Speaker 1: was the one that exposed it. I don't care. It's
- 15:40Speaker 1: not the perfect person to expose it, I understand, but
- 15:42Speaker 1: I give him credit for doing so, no matter the reasons. Agreed?
- 15:48Speaker 5: Totally agreed. And putting it up on a portal so
- 15:51Speaker 5: we can all see it for ourselves. Not telling us
- 15:53Speaker 5: what's in it, like sometimes people do. We'll release it
- 15:57Speaker 5: in months, but it's up in a portal now with
- 15:59Speaker 5: more to come. Well, How about we start giving away
- 16:02Speaker 5: some tickets right now?
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- 16:41Speaker 5: with Darius.
- 16:50Speaker 10: Sunny, warm, and humid today, guys. We'll see a high
- 16:53Speaker 10: of 86 degrees. Summer is over for about a million
- 16:56Speaker 10: kids who attend New York City public schools. That sigh
- 17:00Speaker 10: of relief you heard this morning, collectively, that's from all
- 17:03Speaker 10: the parents. They'll return to classes with no AI in
- 17:06Speaker 10: grades K-8 and strict limits on it for high school students.
- 17:10Speaker 10: President Trump will give the closing remarks tonight at the
- 17:12Speaker 10: Republican National Committee's first midterm convention. Last night, he gave
- 17:16Speaker 10: the keynote address and which he urged Republicans to pretend
- 17:19Speaker 10: that he's on the ballot, even though he's not. New
- 17:21Speaker 10: Jersey Governor Mikey Sherrill isn't talking when it comes to
- 17:24Speaker 10: allegations about her second-in-command.
- 17:26Speaker 8: Cheryl took questions from reporters Wednesday over accusations her lieutenant
- 17:30Speaker 8: governor acted inappropriately with women and is also being investigated
- 17:34Speaker 8: for possible ethics violations.
- 17:36Speaker 10: I want to make sure every single person who works
- 17:38Speaker 10: for me does so in an environment where they feel
- 17:42Speaker 10: safe and supported.
- 17:43Speaker 8: Dale Caldwell denies the allegations. In a letter obtained by
- 17:46Speaker 8: the New Jersey Business News, Caldwell wrote, I have never
- 17:49Speaker 8: asked anyone out on a date, hit on, or pursued
- 17:51Speaker 8: anyone romantically while conducting official business as lieutenant governor and
- 17:55Speaker 8: secretary of state. Cheryl's office is investigating the matter. I'm
- 17:59Speaker 8: Scott Pringle, WOR News.
- 18:01Speaker 10: A federal appeals court is considering a case which could
- 18:03Speaker 10: make it harder to get the abortion pill online or
- 18:06Speaker 10: through the mail. At issue is whether the drug should
- 18:09Speaker 10: be shipped into Louisiana given the state's ban on abortion.
- 18:13Speaker 10: And if you thought this summer was hotter than ever.
- 18:16Speaker 9: If you were sweating it out this summer, you weren't alone.
- 18:19Speaker 9: NOAA reports this was the warmest summer ever measured in
- 18:22Speaker 9: the lower 48 going back 132 years. For just the
- 18:26Speaker 9: month of August, it was also the warmest with daytime
- 18:29Speaker 9: averages of 88.6 degrees. It was a wet August in
- 18:33Speaker 9: parts of the Midwest and Ohio Valley, but drier in
- 18:36Speaker 9: the Plains and lower Mississippi Valley. Right now, more than 59%
- 18:40Speaker 9: of the U.S.
- 18:41Speaker 5: Is in a drought. That's 10 points higher than in
- 18:44Speaker 5: early August. I'm Rory O'Neill.
- 18:46Speaker 10: The Yankees and the Mets won. Seattle beat New England
- 18:49Speaker 10: in the NFL season opener. Next news, 9 o'clock, bulletins
- 18:53Speaker 10: at once. I'm Daria Albinger on 710WOR.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Thank you, Daria, and congratulations to John Reyes from Brooklyn.
- 19:00Speaker 1: You just won a pair of tickets to see Andrea
- 19:02Speaker 1: Bocelli's 30th anniversary world tour December 17th at Madison Square Garden.
- 19:10Speaker 1: Tickets on sale now at Ticketmaster.com. Well, when we come back,
- 19:15Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Tim Scheld, a longtime news
- 19:18Speaker 1: reporter in New York City who covered the horrors of 9-11-2001,
- 19:21Speaker 1: its aftermath, and the years it followed. Tim is coming
- 19:28Speaker 1: up next. The countdown is on for the most talked
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- 20:13Speaker 1: got to get yours while you can. Well, we are
- 20:16Speaker 1: honored to be joined by Tim Scheld. If you don't
- 20:20Speaker 1: know the name, you're certainly going to know the voice.
- 20:22Speaker 1: He is a longtime New York radio news reporter and
- 20:27Speaker 1: alum of WOR, but he's Pretty well known for his
- 20:32Speaker 1: work at NewsRadio 88. He was the news director there
- 20:36Speaker 1: for two decades. He's been a journalist for five decades.
- 20:40Speaker 1: He's covered every big story in this city. As a
- 20:45Speaker 1: matter of fact, he does have a book out. That's
- 20:47Speaker 1: not what we're talking about today, but it's worth mentioning.
- 20:50Speaker 1: My Front Row Seat, A Newsman's Journey. And I would
- 20:54Speaker 1: imagine September 11th, 2001 plays heavy in that book, Tim.
- 21:00Speaker 1: And that's what we want to talk to you about today.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. Hey, Larry, thank you.
- 21:06Speaker 1: That was sweet of you to say.
- 21:07Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, honestly, September 11th, well, first of all,
- 21:11Speaker 13: it's a day that none of us will ever forget.
- 21:14Speaker 13: And not forget just for, you know, what we saw
- 21:17Speaker 13: or felt, but just how it felt. It feels so
- 21:19Speaker 13: heavy even today as we look at the 25th anniversary.
- 21:23Speaker 13: And yeah, it was.
- 21:26Speaker 1: It's just amazing.
- 21:26Speaker 13: It's overwhelming how many stories there are and how many
- 21:30Speaker 13: we don't even still know.
- 21:31Speaker 1: I mean, I.
- 21:33Speaker 13: Was looking at a Facebook feed just a little while
- 21:35Speaker 13: ago and saw a story of a guy that was
- 21:38Speaker 13: caught in the debris but lived, and I had never
- 21:40Speaker 13: even heard his story. It's just amazing what we went
- 21:44Speaker 13: through as a city, as a community, at a day when,
- 21:47Speaker 13: you know, war was waged on.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Us, you know?
- 21:51Speaker 5: Now, Tim, this is Curtis Sliwa. On that day, I
- 21:54Speaker 5: was broadcasting. There was no internet. There was no feed.
- 21:59Speaker 5: When those towers went down, pretty much all TV channels
- 22:03Speaker 5: were off the air. People were dependent on radio as
- 22:06Speaker 5: they've been enduring natural emergencies and blackouts. But I remember
- 22:11Speaker 5: all the misinformation, the rumors about that Flight 93 and
- 22:16Speaker 5: where it was headed, and it crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
- 22:20Speaker 5: But it was targeting... the Capitol building. So they would
- 22:24Speaker 5: have hit the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the
- 22:27Speaker 5: Capitol building. How, as a journalist, did you handle all
- 22:31Speaker 5: those conspiracies when there was really no way to know
- 22:35Speaker 5: what was going on?
- 22:37Speaker 1: Well, hey, Curtis, it's good to hear your voice. Good
- 22:39Speaker 1: to talk to you.
- 22:40Speaker 13: I have to tell you, I do remember, and it
- 22:43Speaker 13: was less rumors and misinformation and more like things were
- 22:47Speaker 13: coming out. So for example, they evacuated the Capitol. They
- 22:51Speaker 13: evacuated areas around the White House because they had heard
- 22:53Speaker 13: a plane was still in the air that they were
- 22:56Speaker 13: not in contact with. That was Flight 93. Didn't really
- 22:59Speaker 13: know the details about it. All we knew is that
- 23:01Speaker 13: they were evacuating places. And those little bits of information
- 23:05Speaker 13: were being delivered because there were journalists in the Capitol
- 23:07Speaker 13: that were evacuated. So That information made it on the
- 23:12Speaker 13: air on radio and TV as we were doing seat-of-the-pants radio.
- 23:16Speaker 13: I remember, and I was just at the museum last
- 23:19Speaker 13: week with my son, and this reminded me, on the
- 23:23Speaker 13: Today Show, they didn't even know the plane had hit
- 23:26Speaker 13: the Pentagon yet, but they were told by the producer,
- 23:29Speaker 13: go to Jim Miklaszewski, the Pentagon reporter. He's got something
- 23:33Speaker 13: to report. And Mick comes on the air and says,
- 23:36Speaker 13: we just felt something. It was live action footage. horror,
- 23:40Speaker 13: terror unfolding, you know, before our eyes. And it was
- 23:46Speaker 13: an amazing day. And look, the first responders are the
- 23:48Speaker 13: real heroes there and the people who weren't even uniformed,
- 23:52Speaker 13: civilians that went into the building in a.
- 23:54Speaker 1: Selfless act, but also the broadcasters that day.
- 23:57Speaker 13: I do believe that the people who ran to the
- 24:00Speaker 13: trouble to bring that information were heroes in their own
- 24:04Speaker 13: right as well.
- 24:05Speaker 1: Let's stay on that day for a second, because you're
- 24:07Speaker 1: overseeing news coverage, and as you just pointed out, information
- 24:11Speaker 1: is coming at you fast and furious that you have
- 24:14Speaker 1: to deal with and you have to respond to. Take
- 24:17Speaker 1: us through the day, if you can. So, Larry, at
- 24:21Speaker 1: that point, I was a national radio correspondent. Curtis probably
- 24:25Speaker 1: remembers it, ABC News. So I was a reporter that day,
- 24:29Speaker 1: and my day was.
- 24:31Speaker 13: Everybody in New York knew probably forgets now, it was
- 24:36Speaker 13: primary day. It was election day. So as a reporter,
- 24:38Speaker 13: I was sleeping in and I was running into the
- 24:41Speaker 13: city late. So that probably saved me from being in
- 24:44Speaker 13: the midst of the horror that quickly. But when I
- 24:48Speaker 13: heard the plane hit the tower, I knew that something
- 24:52Speaker 13: was going on and I knew I had to get
- 24:53Speaker 13: in the city. And my morning was spent struggling to
- 24:56Speaker 13: try and find a way to get into Manhattan when
- 24:59Speaker 13: it was closed down.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Every highway was shut down. You couldn't get on by water.
- 25:03Speaker 13: And I ended up, um, uh, finding some sort of
- 25:06Speaker 13: strategy with my wife and getting her to get me
- 25:08Speaker 13: a bicycle and a helmet and, uh, meeting up here
- 25:12Speaker 13: near Rockland County and taking the Tappan Zee bridge and
- 25:15Speaker 13: getting to the Bronx and riding a bicycle into Manhattan, uh,
- 25:18Speaker 13: to be there.
- 25:19Speaker 1: And you're right. Managing that kind of chaos, um, is, um,
- 25:24Speaker 1: there's no, there's no game plan.
- 25:27Speaker 13: You've got to really sort of go by instinct and, uh,
- 25:30Speaker 13: What was really troubling is that we lost contact with
- 25:33Speaker 13: a lot of our colleagues and friends when the towers
- 25:37Speaker 13: came down. And no one knew the fate of many people.
- 25:41Speaker 13: At WCBS, there was a well-known reporter, Mary Gay Taylor,
- 25:44Speaker 13: and the towers came down. She was saved because somebody
- 25:47Speaker 13: grabbed her and threw her underneath a vehicle that saved
- 25:50Speaker 13: the two of them from getting hit by the debris.
- 25:53Speaker 1: But nobody had heard from her for quite some time.
- 25:57Speaker 1: And then about an hour later, they heard her voice
- 26:00Speaker 1: and everybody was relieved. But that is a story that's.
- 26:02Speaker 13: Told 10,000 times over by people who were looking for
- 26:07Speaker 13: loved ones when they saw that horror happen on TV.
- 26:10Speaker 5: You know, Tim, journalists get vilified often. But on that day,
- 26:15Speaker 5: we were so dependent on you and others to get
- 26:17Speaker 5: us the information that we couldn't get for ourselves. what's
- 26:21Speaker 5: the lesson to be learned about the role that journalists
- 26:25Speaker 5: play in our day-to-day lives from that event?
- 26:29Speaker 13: Well, I love the question, Curtis, and thank you. And
- 26:31Speaker 13: I think that, you know, you know, the answer is that,
- 26:34Speaker 13: you know, facts matter. Uh, and so you report what's
- 26:37Speaker 13: in front of you and that'll never change. And I mean,
- 26:40Speaker 13: that day obviously taught us that, um, you know, you
- 26:43Speaker 13: really can, can report on what you see in front
- 26:46Speaker 13: of you. And this idea of, uh, you know, rumors
- 26:49Speaker 13: and misinformation, that stuff needs.
- 26:51Speaker 1: To be vetted. You can't report on things like that.
- 26:53Speaker 13: And now there's so much information, like a fire hose
- 26:57Speaker 13: of information, you know, headed our way. We've got to
- 27:00Speaker 13: really teach the next generation of news consumers and journalists,
- 27:04Speaker 13: for that matter, to think critically about the information in
- 27:07Speaker 13: front of them before disseminating.
- 27:08Speaker 1: Before you push share.
- 27:10Speaker 13: On that, you know, on your Instagram post or on
- 27:13Speaker 13: your feed, you really need to be confident that that
- 27:16Speaker 13: information that you're sharing um, is accurate. And it's, that's,
- 27:20Speaker 13: that's the real lesson that, that, that we all need to,
- 27:23Speaker 13: to take from that.
- 27:24Speaker 1: Well, very well said Tim Shelled, longtime New York radio
- 27:28Speaker 1: news reporter, W O R L M alum news radio, 88.
- 27:33Speaker 1: He ran the newsroom there for two decades and his
- 27:36Speaker 1: book is my front row seat, a newsman's journey. Thank
- 27:40Speaker 1: you so much for sharing all that with us, Tim.
- 27:42Speaker 2: We will.
- 27:43Speaker 5: Larry was so much, uh, taking place leading to the
- 27:46Speaker 5: commemoration tomorrow of 9-11. Today at 2.33, if you're in
- 27:52Speaker 5: Times Square, will be the unveiling of a bronze statue
- 27:56Speaker 5: in honor of Charlie Kirk, who on this day was
- 28:00Speaker 5: assassinated a year ago by an artist named Fornari, who said, look,
- 28:07Speaker 5: there's a lot of stuff I didn't agree with him on,
- 28:10Speaker 5: but his stand about freedom of expression and and freedom
- 28:15Speaker 5: of creation. There are no boundaries, no borders. That's where
- 28:18Speaker 5: we kind of stand together. That's what motivated me to
- 28:21Speaker 5: do this statue. He did it out of his own pocket,
- 28:23Speaker 5: this bronze statue, and emblazoned on the shirt that the
- 28:28Speaker 5: bronze Charlie Kirk is wearing is the word freedom, because
- 28:32Speaker 5: he stood for freedom of speech. He took on all
- 28:36Speaker 5: adversaries rhetorically, and they were some of the great debates.
- 28:40Speaker 5: In fact, he had debated Hassan Piker, and was going
- 28:44Speaker 5: to debate him again at Dartmouth on September 29th last year.
- 28:48Speaker 5: So he was an advocate of free speech, and then
- 28:51Speaker 5: he was cut down. But my relationship with him was
- 28:55Speaker 5: not a good one. On July 5th of last year,
- 28:59Speaker 5: when I was running for mayor, he was the first
- 29:01Speaker 5: person to come out and say I should drop out.
- 29:04Speaker 5: And remember, he had a national following with Turning Point,
- 29:07Speaker 5: well-respected amongst conservatives. And that led to almost every day,
- 29:12Speaker 5: somebody coming forward, you need to drop out. That's when
- 29:15Speaker 5: Cuomo had lost to Zorhan Mandami in the primary. And
- 29:19Speaker 5: Eric Adams had sort of a resurrection. And he was saying, oh,
- 29:22Speaker 5: everybody needs to back Eric Adams. Now, I didn't know him.
- 29:25Speaker 5: He didn't know me. But when he was shot and killed,
- 29:28Speaker 5: I was in the green room at Fox News Channel
- 29:31Speaker 5: watching it on TV because I was going to come
- 29:33Speaker 5: on at 3 o'clock that show and once again answer, no,
- 29:36Speaker 5: I'm not dropping out. I was the only reporter. who
- 29:40Speaker 5: came out to his commemoration. It took place within 48 hours.
- 29:44Speaker 5: A lot of younger people were there from turning point.
- 29:47Speaker 5: And a lot of people said, wow, you're here. I said,
- 29:50Speaker 5: put aside the fact that I was angry that he
- 29:53Speaker 5: started this tsunami at a national level. But he was
- 29:57Speaker 5: an advocate of free speech. And I've always believed, the
- 30:00Speaker 5: way I was raised by my father, the antidote to
- 30:03Speaker 5: hate speech is more free speech.
- 30:05Speaker 1: And that's what he advocated. And he was killed for it.
- 30:07Speaker 6: Yes.
- 30:08Speaker 1: And he was martyred for that because they were so misunderstood.
- 30:12Speaker 1: And one of the problems is that Charlie Kirk was brilliant.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk would have gone on, who the hell knows
- 30:19Speaker 1: what he would have been. He was only 31 years old.
- 30:21Speaker 1: He might have been a president. I mean, he had
- 30:24Speaker 1: a following unlike... any conservative, probably, well, since Trump and
- 30:30Speaker 1: since Reagan. I mean, people that followed him loved him.
- 30:35Speaker 1: And you said he was an advocate of free speech.
- 30:38Speaker 1: He went beyond most of us when it came to
- 30:40Speaker 1: free speech. He wanted to hear from people that disagreed
- 30:44Speaker 1: with him. He would pick them out in a crowd, said, you,
- 30:48Speaker 1: come down here. And he was kind. And there's been
- 30:51Speaker 1: so much of an aberration about his legacy, how he
- 30:54Speaker 1: was mean, how he was hateful. Never. Please, please educate
- 31:00Speaker 1: yourself and watch his videos and watch him on the
- 31:05Speaker 1: college campuses. He was a follower of Jesus Christ and
- 31:09Speaker 1: a follower of God. He was a Christian and he
- 31:12Speaker 1: lived by Christian ways and he was killed by it.
- 31:15Speaker 1: He was a conservative martyr. And in those who called
- 31:19Speaker 1: and said, we should have talked more about him today.
- 31:21Speaker 1: You're right. We should. But let's just remember him.
- 31:24Speaker 5: Well said, Larry. Well said. And in its aftermath, a
- 31:28Speaker 5: turning point. Remember the breakup between Tucker Carlson and Shapiro
- 31:33Speaker 5: and Candace Owens. What a mess. This is what happens
- 31:37Speaker 5: when you're leaderless for such an incredible portion of our
- 31:42Speaker 5: country's history. Now, we talked about the bald eagle sighting
- 31:46Speaker 5: in the Bronx. The talk back in the morning and
- 31:48Speaker 5: winner of the Curtis Lee and Larry Menti in the
- 31:50Speaker 5: morning T-shirt said there has been another eagle visit during
- 31:56Speaker 5: the week we remember September 11th.
- 32:00Speaker 12: As Curtis was discussing the bald eagle that was spotted
- 32:05Speaker 12: in the Bronx, the local news station on Long Island
- 32:09Speaker 12: was reporting on another bald eagle sighting that was spotted
- 32:14Speaker 12: in Malvern on Long Island.
- 32:16Speaker 5: It's probably a mate. I would suggest the bald eagle
- 32:20Speaker 5: in the Bronx cross the Long Island Sound and go
- 32:22Speaker 5: right to Long Island before you get shot out of
- 32:25Speaker 5: the sky by gangbangers. And remember, the Talkback of the
- 32:29Speaker 5: Week will win a C-Crane radio, C-Crane radios that work
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- 32:35Speaker 1: You missed a part of the show today, like our
- 32:37Speaker 1: movie-mitted host, Joe Neumeier, who spoke about movies that help
- 32:41Speaker 1: young people learn about September 11th. Head to 710WOR.
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- 33:00Speaker 1: 9 o'clock, economist Steve Moore and WOR weeknight host Jimmy Fela.
- 33:06Speaker 1: We hope you'll join us tomorrow as we commemorate what
- 33:10Speaker 1: happened on September 11th, 25 years ago. You won't miss
- 33:14Speaker 1: any of it. We will Honor the moments of silence.
- 33:18Speaker 1: But for right now, let's get the news at 9 o'clock.