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November 3, 2025 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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Speaker 6: Welcome to the Writers Round Table with Rusty Berson, Robert
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Speaker 6: Sesna and your host Chip Howard. The Writer's Round Table
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Speaker 1: Glad to have you with us here on a Monday.
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Speaker 1: Robert Sessna is here, Rusty person is here. We were
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Speaker 1: just talking before we went on about Coach Elko being
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Speaker 1: in a great mood today. I said, hey, when you're eight, no,
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Speaker 1: you can do that.
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Speaker 8: So made you know that works, Chris. You know if
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Speaker 8: you're doing well, you know everything goes in place.
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Speaker 1: There we go.
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Speaker 8: People go ahead and they were dressed up like Mike Elko,
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Speaker 8: which is nice because the people dressed up like you freeze.
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Speaker 8: It wasn't quite the same.
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Speaker 1: With the tea time.
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Speaker 3: I was at the volleyball game Friday night. It was
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Speaker 3: a lot of fun. I mean it was atmosphere wise,
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Speaker 3: it was the first volleyball game I've gone to in
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Speaker 3: a long time. Cool, but I picked it out it Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean, see Bucky there and Coachko. There was no
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Speaker 3: Bucky McMillan was there. And so I'm looking forward tonight
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Speaker 3: Star Value Basket.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be chaotic.
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Speaker 3: That's fun, you know what. I just I don't really
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Speaker 3: care about the results this year. I mean, I hope
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Speaker 3: hopefully they get better and better as the season progresses.
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Speaker 3: But I'm excited to see see therand.
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Speaker 1: The best players on the court at the same time,
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Speaker 1: and that may be a little lot.
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Speaker 3: I want to see guys who are shooting to actually
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Speaker 3: make it in the basket as.
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Speaker 1: Opposed to get a rebound.
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Speaker 3: Get a rebound, yeah off a misshot and predictable shots
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Speaker 3: and anyway, so I am just looking forward to a
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Speaker 3: near new era.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you heard, but they've they've
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Speaker 1: stolen the Las Vegas and il tournament back away for
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Speaker 1: next year. From from good good good good.
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Speaker 8: So you're making a rip to having the three best
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Speaker 8: shooting players on the court. That's well, just the.
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Speaker 1: Three best players. I mean, not necessarily the best shooters.
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Speaker 1: But but but you know, Ronin Griffin's the only one
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Speaker 1: that's been healthy. You know, Pop Isaac's is a game
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Speaker 1: time decision, and I do expect to see him for
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Speaker 1: a little bit. And Bacco is going to be a
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Speaker 1: little while longer. So you know, it may be January
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Speaker 1: to your point, Rusty, or maybe even in the February
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Speaker 1: before we see like the potential of what they quite.
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Speaker 3: Frankly, they're not playing a real hard schedule. Yeah. So,
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Speaker 3: but but that's okay with this team, you know.
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Speaker 8: And not not for me.
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Speaker 1: It's not not for what they're charging for prices. It's
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Speaker 1: not okay, it is not the thing is now I.
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Speaker 3: Pay for them, and and you don't, and so but
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Speaker 3: but I do, and I think it's it's with the
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Speaker 3: first year coach.
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Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. Look, they play some decent games,
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Speaker 1: they're just not here, right. I Mean, it's not that
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Speaker 1: the whole non conference schedule is terrible. They play some
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Speaker 1: good games, they just don't play them here.
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Speaker 3: No, But I mean once they start SEC play, it's
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Speaker 3: still gonna be sc I get that. That's why I
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Speaker 3: paid for it. I wasn't excited about paying more than
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Speaker 3: we did last year, but that's that's the way things go.
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Speaker 3: They got to pay for those players. Now, you know, I.
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Speaker 8: Thought you were making a reference to sometimes the buzz
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Speaker 8: would take the hot shooter out of the game, and
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Speaker 8: oh he would sit them down, and you're thinking, like,
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Speaker 8: why is on the on the bench he would do that?
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Speaker 8: You were doing that.
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Speaker 1: Now. I didn't do that, but I could.
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Speaker 8: You could have.
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Speaker 1: I could have. I could have.
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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't mean to steal the basketball.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it's opening night.
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Speaker 8: But I kind of kind of agree with with the chip.
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Speaker 8: If you gotta go ahead and get I looked at
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Speaker 8: the schedule, like you said, to go to Oklahoma State.
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Speaker 8: They got some good games on the road, but you
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Speaker 8: gotta get and even if they lose, you got to
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Speaker 8: give your team, your fans, good opponents.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: I would love to have a Marquee name in here,
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Speaker 3: but it doesn't bother me that they're playing Northwestern State,
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Speaker 3: And I see.
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Speaker 1: Your point, you know, because you have to play Northwestern states. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's not my point.
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Speaker 3: You have to, especially with no guys that there were.
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Speaker 1: There's no that that part of it to me doesn't
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Speaker 1: figure in this is this is what figure And again
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Speaker 1: you say, hey, I wrote the check. That's fine.
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Speaker 3: Bus Best had a very experienced team last year and
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Speaker 3: get it, and he get a very schedule.
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Speaker 1: I get all of that. But but this is Texas,
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Speaker 1: freaking a n M. They should be able to get
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Speaker 1: a team you've heard of to come to this arena
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Speaker 1: and play well.
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Speaker 3: And I can see both sides so I can't. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: well that's fine, I mean, but again, I think it's
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Speaker 3: gonna be fun fun to watch this guy of Brown.
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Speaker 1: Basketball, not saying it's not. I think it will be fun.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be really different, and it is going
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Speaker 1: to be cho I.
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Speaker 3: Means, like even last year when they won, it was
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Speaker 3: it was you walked out of the arena going that
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Speaker 3: was boring, that was just ugly.
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Speaker 1: That was just ugly, ugly, ugly, And there was neighbor
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Speaker 1: I would argue. I would argue that there were a
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Speaker 1: lot of Billy Clyde Gillespie games that were just as.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're You're exactly right. But I think winning was
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Speaker 3: so new at that time on in.
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Speaker 1: BASKETA it didn't matter.
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Speaker 3: It didn't matter how ugly it was, I get it.
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Speaker 3: What But so then you had some really good players
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Speaker 3: come in, and so with with buzz, he didn't recruit
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Speaker 3: the really good players. He recruited the really good guys
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Speaker 3: who I mean, they busted their tails that you couldn't
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Speaker 3: help but love them, right, yes, but they But I
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Speaker 3: always I always make the correlation. If I was going
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Speaker 3: to put a golf team together, I'd want a couple
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Speaker 3: guys who could putt like they have nobody who could
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Speaker 3: put They're like the King of three putts. They lead
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Speaker 3: the nation in offensive rebounding because they missed more shots
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Speaker 3: than anybody.
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Speaker 1: Right, you mean the guys who hit the.
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Speaker 8: Three hundred and fifty yard drives as well. But how
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Speaker 8: could you not like a team to get eighty seven
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Speaker 8: percent of the rebound the rim?
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Speaker 1: Amen? Amen? Al right, there we go. We got that.
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Speaker 3: We covered basketball. We did.
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Speaker 1: We did well. We're obviously going to cover boards as
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Speaker 1: we proceed, because they got two home games.
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Speaker 8: It was only here on a football team here that
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Speaker 8: was halfway.
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Speaker 1: Do Yeah, if they were any good, But we could
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Speaker 1: spend time talking about them. Wow, but I want to
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Speaker 1: start hear while I'm thinking about it. I said this
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Speaker 1: the first hour, all these there's so many coaching jobs
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Speaker 1: up right now, and there's gonna be more. We're not done.
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Speaker 8: You could be gone.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could be gone.
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Speaker 8: You could get jobs.
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Speaker 1: I think I could as I as I watched these things.
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Speaker 8: Job.
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Speaker 1: Okay, my point. You know, I like Dave Roberts won
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Speaker 1: a World Series for life this show. He was unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: Everything he did turned to gold everything, and that's not
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Speaker 1: and I get it you can't always have that. But
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Speaker 1: in seven games in the national spotlight, when everybody's you know,
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Speaker 1: questioning every single move you may, it is really hard
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Speaker 1: to find one that Dave Roberts did wrong. Okay, So
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go from there to the Oklahoma Tennessee game
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Speaker 1: on Saturday night. Okay, I don't even know where to
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Speaker 1: start with Josh. We've we've talked about Josh Hype before. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking this guy is not a very good
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Speaker 1: head football coach. You give me him as offensive coordinator,
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Speaker 1: and you give me Brent Vinables as defensive coordinator, and
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Speaker 1: you get a coach that knows how to manage the
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Speaker 1: freaking game. You have a powerhouse. Why are you throwing
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Speaker 1: to a full back that haven't touched the ball all
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Speaker 1: year long? On fourth and one with the game on
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Speaker 1: the line? Why are you doing that? And Brent Vinables,
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Speaker 1: why are you throwing an inside screen with less than
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Speaker 1: four minutes left and up to scores?
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Speaker 9: No?
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Speaker 8: Why are you doing that?
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Speaker 3: None? It makes no sense at all. And I didn't
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Speaker 3: think anybody would out coach Vinables this year, but I think,
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Speaker 3: you know.
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Speaker 1: I think Josh Heipel did it.
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Speaker 3: I did, Yeah, I mean just I mean that was
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Speaker 3: just two really bad coach teams. Yes, and it was
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Speaker 3: an entertaining game because it was close, you know, but
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Speaker 3: it was still with some athletes on the field.
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Speaker 1: It was so.
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Speaker 3: Hard because I was flipping back and forth between the
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Speaker 3: World Series right, yep, and a long stretches of time.
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Speaker 3: I didn't watch anything but the World Suit. Yes, me too,
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Speaker 3: because it was so compelling. Oh gosh, it's compelling. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: from what I saw, just a bunch of bad coaching.
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Speaker 1: Holy moly, there was some bad coaching going on.
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Speaker 8: And I love when it shows hypo. He can't believe
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Speaker 8: the guy didn't catch it. You see him in the background,
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Speaker 8: and I'm laughing because why there was so many things
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Speaker 8: wrong about that play. They took that up.
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Speaker 1: It took a top, so many things.
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Speaker 8: There's a time out they could work with to come
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Speaker 8: up with that play. And then they threw it before
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Speaker 8: the guy turned and you're right hit.
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Speaker 1: Him in the face mask. It looked like he's ever
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Speaker 1: caught a passing, but he hadn't.
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Speaker 8: He hadn't run that play. He didn't know when to
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Speaker 8: turn around. It was it was like, you need one yard,
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Speaker 8: one yard, you got an option.
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Speaker 1: Coll That's the third. The third happened in Dallas with
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Speaker 1: the Seme Mustangs with that guy. We called that if
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Speaker 1: if I if I put rhtt Lashley with that Miami team, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and and I put Krystal All with that SMU team.
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Speaker 1: That's a three touchdown game. Every day of the week.
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Speaker 3: I thought about you, especially after watching that game, because
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Speaker 3: you said, rapping the Star, I do not trust Miami.
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Speaker 1: Could you how you can?
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Speaker 8: You knew he's gonna screw up once, but to do
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Speaker 8: it twice he's done back to back years.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't lose his winning PERCENTAGEO November is like one
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Speaker 1: sixty seven.
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Speaker 3: It's terrible great, would you.
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Speaker 1: Up because it's close to that.
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Speaker 8: I'm serious.
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Speaker 3: August, September and October they're great, and then November December
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Speaker 3: they're terror awful.
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Speaker 8: I like that.
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Speaker 1: So that's a team that's not getting better, right right, exactly.
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Speaker 8: Good point. And I was surprised when I watched the
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Speaker 8: game day predictions when Saban went ahead and you could
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Speaker 8: tell you reluctantly picked Miami that he thought and you know,
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Speaker 8: he's thinking, this guy can't win the big game. He knows,
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Speaker 8: he knows it, and you could see it. But yet
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Speaker 8: he has loyalty to him because he had him on
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Speaker 8: his staff. And I kind of read the Teelee's when
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Speaker 8: he said he picked SMU Miami. You can tell like
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Speaker 8: they might lose this game, and they.
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Speaker 3: Did, which is just what makes you so impressed with
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Speaker 3: this A and M team because this is the first
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Speaker 3: AMM team and so forever that is getting better the
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Speaker 3: season goes along.
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Speaker 8: You know, I was thinking about Brian over here. I
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Speaker 8: would say that the team with mand that just missed
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Speaker 8: out got better as the year went on. But here's
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Speaker 8: my deal is I think the difference is is a
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Speaker 8: layman when I'm watching a team, I consider myself a
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Speaker 8: layment when they're when they're getting better. I could see
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Speaker 8: mand was getting better, you know, the running backs line.
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Speaker 8: But I think the deal is with Elko the defense
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Speaker 8: is getting better, and I don't see the defense as much.
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Speaker 8: I don't know as much.
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Speaker 3: So I'll just say this, from nineteen nine to nine
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Speaker 3: to right now, there's probably been three teams, including this one,
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Speaker 3: that I could say they got better as the season
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Speaker 3: went along.
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Speaker 1: I agree with you.
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Speaker 3: The twenty twenty team, I'll say twenty twenty twelve. By
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Speaker 3: the time that that season, no one was gonna beat him.
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Speaker 8: They didn't want to play him.
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Speaker 3: But this we're talking about, you know, twenty seven years
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Speaker 3: here where we've seen three teams get better. Team yea.
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Speaker 8: And he talks on this today and I'm writing this
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Speaker 8: my calling about it. You think about how they've woken
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Speaker 8: up woken in certain games. They do it because they're
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Speaker 8: good and they they're well coached, and they do it.
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Speaker 8: And now they're doing that over the course of now,
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Speaker 8: like you said, you weeks and months, they're eight to no.
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Speaker 8: They've answered every challenge and.
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Speaker 3: The best thing I think is how they handle adversity.
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Speaker 3: So the punk gets blocked against it's Notre Dame or
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Speaker 3: the punk gets blocked against LSU, and they don't panic.
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Speaker 3: And they're down for at the half against LSU, they
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Speaker 3: don't panic.
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Speaker 1: It's funny you right now because I asked him about
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Speaker 1: that today and I said, hey, uh, you've had two
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Speaker 1: punts blocked.
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Speaker 8: Good question.
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Speaker 1: Do you could do you change personnel? Have you looked
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Speaker 1: at your schemes? I thought his answer was really interesting.
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Speaker 1: Season it speaks, it speaks to what you're saying. He
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Speaker 1: just said, no, he goes, we got to coach better.
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Speaker 1: He goes, there's a couple of things. He just there
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Speaker 1: were execution issues. Uh, but we're not changing anybody, you know,
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Speaker 1: we we we just we have to do better basically.
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Speaker 8: And it's like, yeah, he's got he feels he's got
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Speaker 8: the right scheme, the right players. They just't executed. And
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Speaker 8: if you go back the Arkansas game was like that.
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Speaker 8: If you remember, Arkansas just slid up A and M
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Speaker 8: in that forty five forty two game, which we haven't
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Speaker 8: seen since they started out with like, uh, you know,
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Speaker 8: one line back whatever. They a different defense and Arkansas
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Speaker 8: random ball him. You know, A and M was prepared
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Speaker 8: for the past a and m hit him with the
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Speaker 8: big runs. And I think if Elk had to do
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Speaker 8: all over again, he's gonna be better on how he
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Speaker 8: calls that game. They lost that game because the way
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Speaker 8: the defense come out and lined up. But they're getting better.
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Speaker 8: They see their mistakes, both execution wise and coaching wise,
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Speaker 8: and they adjust.
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Speaker 3: But they would have lost that game under the last
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Speaker 3: three coaching staffs. Got a doubt, yeah, And I think
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Speaker 3: they probably would have lost another Dame game under the
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Speaker 3: last day. So the best case scenario the six and two,
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Speaker 3: maybe five and three underneath the last three coach. And
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Speaker 3: that's what I think. That the value of Elko, who's
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Speaker 3: just a solid fundamentals football coach, and then they just
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Speaker 3: get better. There's no I don't know, it's not smoking
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Speaker 3: mirrors with him.
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Speaker 8: Right, And if they had Brent Vernabules or hypel or
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Speaker 8: crystal Ball, they'd be five and three or six and two.
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Speaker 8: They find a way to lose Suns games.
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Speaker 3: I remember when Hugh Freeze was a really good coach,
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Speaker 3: you know, I say the same thing, and.
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Speaker 8: I watched no.
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Speaker 1: I remember when he was a quarterback whisper and his offense, right,
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Speaker 1: I remember what how do you get stuck without a quarterback?
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Speaker 1: And how do you misevaluate that bad bad?
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Speaker 8: I remember Segment tried to hire him, an SEC wouldn't let.
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Speaker 1: Him cost him his job, I mean obviously, because that
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Speaker 1: what was his strength at Auburn. He has not had
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Speaker 1: a quarterback.
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Speaker 8: Is that head scratch?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's head scratching to me. How that happens?
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Speaker 3: I just don't Maybe there's never been.
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Speaker 1: I will say this, guys, in this day and age
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Speaker 1: where it is up for grabs, you gotta be lucky too. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I mean you gotta be good, don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 1: but you gotta be lucky.
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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: You gotta be able to escape by a couple of
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Speaker 3: teams like eight and a half.
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Speaker 8: And I think Elko alluded to that today in his answer, like,
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Speaker 8: you know, it's such a fine line with the twenty
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Speaker 8: games or whatever.
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Speaker 1: It is one scoring, one game and he's been.
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Speaker 8: On the up side of it. Next year he might
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Speaker 8: have a key injury or two that that hurt the issuery.
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Speaker 8: He's managed to offset the injuries. Next year, maybe he doesn't.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna be interesting how this this progresses.
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Speaker 3: I was talking with one of the real insiders yesterday.
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Speaker 1: And uh no, everybody listen.
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Speaker 3: It was interesting to see how things are gonna change
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Speaker 3: here and these nil things are going to change and
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Speaker 3: these kids who have been paid for doing nothing, they're
16:51
Speaker 3: actually gonna have to justify, you know, making appearances in
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Speaker 3: these kind of things and so and there's.
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Speaker 1: Gonna be a lot less money guaranteed.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean they are actually putting some parameters
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Speaker 3: on this.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you can't just for now they're just giving
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Speaker 3: you money for for nothing. It's like you don't It's
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Speaker 3: like the Greg Hill days where paid you for washing
17:13
Speaker 3: grass girl.
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Speaker 2: Right.
17:14
Speaker 1: No, I mean, but they're gonna actually.
17:15
Speaker 3: Have to justify that, you know, being making appearances and
17:20
Speaker 3: sponsorships and all that stuff. And there's gonna be some
17:22
Speaker 3: regulations on this coming, which I salute if if it happens,
17:27
Speaker 3: and I think it will based on who I was
17:29
Speaker 3: talking to, it's gonna be very very interesting.
17:31
Speaker 1: Are you talking about here or throughout.
17:33
Speaker 3: College throughout college football?
17:35
Speaker 8: Okay?
17:35
Speaker 1: And I think it's real.
17:37
Speaker 3: One of the first things they're gonna do is you're
17:39
Speaker 3: not gonna be able to transfer within the same conference
17:41
Speaker 3: and still's play like you're immediately Yeah, so you're not
17:45
Speaker 3: gonna be Noah Thomas and play at text saying them
17:47
Speaker 3: and then Georgia.
17:49
Speaker 1: There have to be changes. I mean, what we did
17:53
Speaker 1: catch touchdown pass? I think no Thomas, Yeah he did.
17:57
Speaker 1: He did catch it touchdown past missed? Yeah no, no, no,
18:01
Speaker 1: actually I don't think he caught too. But he had
18:04
Speaker 1: a good game. Okay, yeah, he was due. So I
18:07
Speaker 1: want to give Mario Cristobaul more credit. I said his
18:10
Speaker 1: winning percentage was one sixty seven. It's two sixty's by
18:17
Speaker 1: one hundred. He's four and eleven in the month of
18:20
Speaker 1: November at Miami.
18:21
Speaker 8: You know he needs to get a contract extension before
18:23
Speaker 8: they lose him.
18:24
Speaker 3: He's as reliable as the Dallas Cowboys and December, November
18:31
Speaker 3: and dece that's the same.
18:32
Speaker 1: You're right at eleven.
18:34
Speaker 3: He's as trustworthy as Cowboys.
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Speaker 8: Please accept our apology from the sports talking that writers run.
18:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, so who's going to coach? I mean how many
18:43
Speaker 1: who's going to take all the Arkansas high profile jobs?
18:47
Speaker 1: Are they're gonna who's going to improve what they had?
18:52
Speaker 1: Let me put it that way. As a head coach, right,
18:56
Speaker 1: who's thinking about who can get better, because that's what
18:58
Speaker 1: you do.
18:58
Speaker 8: You follow people. I was talking even in high schools.
19:02
Speaker 8: Talk to people, go Okay, we fired the coach, but
19:04
Speaker 8: now we've got to get someone's better. And a lot
19:06
Speaker 8: of people forget the number two step. It's a two
19:08
Speaker 8: step deal. You can follow the guys easy to fire.
19:10
Speaker 8: It's easy to fire anybody well.
19:12
Speaker 3: And I think it goes back to look and m
19:14
Speaker 3: fired Arci slogan, and it is taking them legitimately four
19:19
Speaker 3: coaches to get maybe the right guy here, Russell.
19:23
Speaker 1: Let's go through the programs Oklahoma Oklahoma toops Texas with
19:28
Speaker 1: Mac Brown. I mean huge program USC Florida hadn't hadn't
19:34
Speaker 1: done it yet, right, Penn State. Uh, I mean go
19:40
Speaker 1: through all these huge programs with legendary coaches who won
19:44
Speaker 1: a lot Florida State but then suddenly didn't.
19:48
Speaker 3: And so you know, I mean there's no tried in
19:50
Speaker 3: true formula. I mean what A and M tried to
19:52
Speaker 3: do is like, okay, well they got the hot name
19:55
Speaker 3: with fran and who had done had pretty good success
19:58
Speaker 3: to TCU and then had a good year in Alabama. Right,
20:01
Speaker 3: So then they got Mike Sherman, the old offensive line
20:03
Speaker 3: coach coming from the NFL. Then they get Kevin, someone.
20:06
Speaker 1: Who was hot because he was a hot prospect.
20:08
Speaker 3: Then they get the famous guy, Jimbo, and they pay
20:11
Speaker 3: him a load of money. And it wasn't until they
20:13
Speaker 3: got the relatively new head coach. The coordinator had been here.
20:16
Speaker 3: But again, you you you've got to take a chance,
20:19
Speaker 3: and there's no guarantee on anything.
20:22
Speaker 1: There's no guarantee. By the way, Jimbo is in the
20:25
Speaker 1: top three names a list of coaches that that are
20:34
Speaker 1: people are wanting. The name is out.
20:37
Speaker 3: Now that question for you, I don't I don't know this.
20:40
Speaker 3: If he takes a job, does that lesson what A
20:43
Speaker 3: and M has to pay?
20:44
Speaker 1: I don't know.
20:45
Speaker 8: He's guaranteed guaranteed. Yeah, if he took a job like
20:49
Speaker 8: the friend, Yeah yeah, yeah.
20:52
Speaker 1: Okay, And they just who they just fired that they're
20:54
Speaker 1: trying to get that deal with him.
20:56
Speaker 3: Uh, Maryland just fired the coach today.
20:58
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that. But they're trying to negotiate
21:03
Speaker 1: with Kelly. They're trying to going, uh yeah, because he
21:07
Speaker 1: had a you know, a clause like if he gets
21:09
Speaker 1: a job, that's a percentage.
21:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are three really good jobs opening the SEC
21:16
Speaker 3: and if I'm Marcus All going, what the heck are
21:18
Speaker 3: we going to?
21:19
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I'm not convinced Auburn is a
21:24
Speaker 1: great job. Although they obviously won national championships. I'm not
21:27
Speaker 1: saying they can't do that. I'm just saying, if I'm
21:30
Speaker 1: coming from the outside, I'm going, it's like going to
21:34
Speaker 1: l s U. Right now. It's like, you know, I
21:36
Speaker 1: think I can win there, but I don't know if
21:38
Speaker 1: I want to put up with all of it. But
21:39
Speaker 1: if they pay me enough and I got that that
21:42
Speaker 1: big buy out, yeah come on, I'll do it.
21:45
Speaker 8: Well.
21:45
Speaker 3: I think that there's less pressure at Auburn.
21:48
Speaker 2: Oh.
21:48
Speaker 8: I don't agree with oh Man.
21:49
Speaker 1: I do not agree with I do not agree with No.
21:54
Speaker 10: No.
21:56
Speaker 1: Auburn has a history. I'm reading a book right now
21:58
Speaker 1: in the history of Auburn. Now, Alabama is really very fast.
22:02
Speaker 8: Job would you take if the guy walks in Florida?
22:04
Speaker 8: Take Florida?
22:05
Speaker 3: Why would you take Florida?
22:06
Speaker 1: I like Scott Strickland. He has a long term deal.
22:09
Speaker 1: I think he's a good athletic director. I think he
22:11
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. I think there's more stability there.
22:15
Speaker 1: And well, you can any of those three you can win.
22:20
Speaker 1: I mean that's been proven. But I'm just saying, good point.
22:23
Speaker 1: I would take the Florida job.
22:25
Speaker 3: I would too because of the recruiting base and and.
22:28
Speaker 1: That's the other thing. But of course now within I
22:30
Speaker 1: L that's.
22:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it still matters, but you're right, it
22:33
Speaker 3: does not nearly as important. Yeah, but you know, I mean,
22:37
Speaker 3: Florida's got to me the better facilities that I mean,
22:41
Speaker 3: Baton Rouge is a terrible place. I mean, l she's
22:44
Speaker 3: a great campus, but Baton Rouge a terrible place. And Auburn,
22:47
Speaker 3: Alabama is just kind of out and planes yep, And
22:51
Speaker 3: so I don't know. I mean, there are three really
22:54
Speaker 3: good jobs. But the thing is how many more.
22:57
Speaker 1: You remember when Arkansas used to be a good job.
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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
23:01
Speaker 1: That's not any more job. It's a it's a terrible
23:04
Speaker 1: job now. But somebody could come in and make it
23:06
Speaker 1: a good job real quick. All you have to do
23:08
Speaker 1: is win.
23:08
Speaker 3: I don't think that Arkansas can do better than Bobby Petrino.
23:12
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't agree with that.
23:13
Speaker 8: Well, if they get to Tulane coach or someone like that,
23:17
Speaker 8: you got a little bit of money. If you get
23:18
Speaker 8: a little bit of money of Jerry's mind.
23:20
Speaker 1: How about drink what's in Missouri?
23:21
Speaker 3: You think he'd believes, Oh, for the right money, Yeah,
23:24
Speaker 3: I think he takes Florida's job, or I think he'd
23:26
Speaker 3: take any one of the three jobs.
23:27
Speaker 1: He wouldn't go to Arkansas.
23:28
Speaker 8: I don't think he's a great high though.
23:30
Speaker 1: I mean he has done I'm not saying he is
23:32
Speaker 1: just but he's he's.
23:33
Speaker 3: An that's the pretty big name out there.
23:36
Speaker 1: I think he's done a good job.
23:37
Speaker 8: One year in Appalachian State.
23:38
Speaker 1: Who is who is a great hire right now? I
23:41
Speaker 1: mean that's the thing.
23:41
Speaker 3: It's like, you're not gonna get Nick Saban to come out.
23:43
Speaker 8: Of tire, understand, I don't think so.
23:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know the answer to that.
23:47
Speaker 3: And if Texas loses the Georgia, I mean it's Steve
23:50
Speaker 3: Sarkisian gonna go to the NFL. And if he does,
23:54
Speaker 3: then that's the best job.
23:55
Speaker 2: Right.
23:55
Speaker 8: Maybe he won't go to the NFL. Maybe go to Cowboys.
24:02
Speaker 1: Oh that was what you did there?
24:04
Speaker 3: I like that, man, that was a good one.
24:07
Speaker 11: Uh.
24:07
Speaker 3: But and then question, I think Stops is going to
24:10
Speaker 3: get fired to Kentucky. I mean eventually, I mean he's
24:13
Speaker 3: got himself with week. Yeah, it's not a good job.
24:16
Speaker 8: So I heard some guy tell me Dave Well, Hype
24:19
Speaker 8: will go to Oklahoma, and I go, really, I go,
24:22
Speaker 8: I just can't see that.
24:24
Speaker 1: I tell you what, I I think they get Brent
24:29
Speaker 1: Vinnable's light if they if they switch him for for Hypel,
24:33
Speaker 1: you're you're you're switching a defensive coach for an offensive coach.
24:36
Speaker 1: I mean, that's basically what you're doing. But but neither
24:39
Speaker 1: one of them can coach as a head coach.
24:41
Speaker 3: Well, they say, if you went a Heisman Trophy, you've
24:43
Speaker 3: got a guaranteed job for life at your mother.
24:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that all My mater ran him off rus See.
24:50
Speaker 1: That's why I thought, I I gotta say this. I
24:55
Speaker 1: got to give that Oklahoma team some credit. I got
24:58
Speaker 1: to give John Mattiers some credit because he played well
25:02
Speaker 1: Saturday night, right and in a tough environment. I thought
25:06
Speaker 1: they wouldn't buy forty, and I thought Hypel would be
25:09
Speaker 1: scoring at the end to try to make it fifty.
25:11
Speaker 1: I really did, And I gotta give them credit for
25:17
Speaker 1: for finding a way.
25:18
Speaker 7: Now.
25:19
Speaker 1: I don't think Tennessee is a great football team, but
25:21
Speaker 1: they are a team scoring about forty five points a game, right,
25:26
Speaker 1: So I give them a lot of credit.
25:28
Speaker 8: But you think about Tennessee's lost two games because of coaching,
25:31
Speaker 8: no doubt. Just think were they with no question if
25:33
Speaker 8: he had coached at Georgia game a little bit better
25:36
Speaker 8: and you'd won that game.
25:37
Speaker 1: Biging of Georgia. I mean, they just Kirby just keeps winning.
25:41
Speaker 8: Right. He was talking about talking about Date Roberts making
25:45
Speaker 8: the right choice.
25:46
Speaker 3: Yes, you know you're talking about we talked about bad coaching, right, Yes,
25:50
Speaker 3: So what I thought was brilliant coaching, even though I'd
25:53
Speaker 3: picked Georgia and I really wanted him to score at
25:55
Speaker 3: the end when the quarterback breaks around and and he
25:58
Speaker 3: takes the.
25:59
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I don't agree with that taking
26:02
Speaker 1: the knee when you're when you can go up two scores.
26:07
Speaker 1: I don't either.
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Speaker 3: I would see it, But then there's no I saw that.
26:11
Speaker 1: Happen in another game. The guy went down at one.
26:13
Speaker 1: I said, why are you going down?
26:14
Speaker 8: It was a ball.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
26:17
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of football and all runs together. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and they think, yeah, they think they're doing the smart thing.
26:22
Speaker 1: But if you're going into the end zone in less
26:24
Speaker 1: than two minutes and you're and you're going up to
26:27
Speaker 1: go two scores. I'm going, why are you?
26:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I think you're probably right if
26:32
Speaker 3: it's less than if it's it's a tie game. If
26:34
Speaker 3: it's if you score, then you give that other team
26:36
Speaker 3: a chance to score and tie, you know, tie. But yeah,
26:40
Speaker 3: I mean I could see the point there.
26:41
Speaker 8: I'm with you on that.
26:42
Speaker 3: I hate to see I just I just know it
26:44
Speaker 3: costs me, you know, in my pickings.
26:46
Speaker 8: I hate it when I see people taking knee and
26:48
Speaker 8: it's time to get the field goal, I go score.
26:51
Speaker 3: That's what I would talk about bad coaching, But let's
26:55
Speaker 3: talk about bad officiating.
26:57
Speaker 1: Did you have I need to take break? Okay, I
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Speaker 1: and in Tech we're with Robert Sesna and Rusty Berson officiating.
30:40
Speaker 1: Good gosh, I underlook. I know it's a hard job.
30:45
Speaker 1: I get it. These guys are big, they're fast, and
30:47
Speaker 1: gay moves at incredible pace. I get it. I will
30:52
Speaker 1: cut them some slack. But you can't. You cannot have
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Speaker 1: the league that everyone says is the greatest ball league
31:00
Speaker 1: in the history of the world and have officials that
31:04
Speaker 1: incompetent every single game. You can't do it. Well, I
31:10
Speaker 1: don't know what the answer.
31:11
Speaker 3: We were talking during the break about that Texas Vandy
31:13
Speaker 3: game and that two point conversion that they gave the vandage.
31:18
Speaker 3: The guy never got close to the goal line and
31:22
Speaker 3: they show it on replay, and you've got replay, and
31:25
Speaker 3: what what infuriates me is when you got replay and
31:28
Speaker 3: then they still screw it.
31:29
Speaker 8: Screwed up.
31:30
Speaker 11: Man.
31:31
Speaker 1: I just don't get it. I don't get it either,
31:33
Speaker 1: clear as you don't get it. Clemson got a cost
31:38
Speaker 1: the entire game.
31:38
Speaker 3: At the end of there was no that was defensive
31:41
Speaker 3: past interference. It was offensive past appearance. But it changed
31:45
Speaker 3: the game. Fourth down there off the field, the Clemson
31:47
Speaker 3: Vans are celebrating they've just won the game. No, no,
31:50
Speaker 3: they give Duke the ball two yard line and they score, right,
31:54
Speaker 3: you know, they go to they win it, forty six,
31:55
Speaker 3: forty five. Yeah, that was one of the many games
31:58
Speaker 3: I was flipping back.
31:59
Speaker 1: All that time. You know, they all run together, but
32:01
Speaker 1: I'm telling you consistently, the SEC officiating is just horrible.
32:06
Speaker 8: I don't know if that's I think it's every game
32:08
Speaker 8: I turn on, I see some blown calls.
32:10
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not saying that. I mean, there's other conferences,
32:13
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, of course, I watch probably more
32:16
Speaker 1: of this conference, right, but I watch all the other games.
32:19
Speaker 1: I'm watching Big ten, I watched the Big.
32:21
Speaker 3: Twelve and missing the ACC bad call acc.
32:25
Speaker 1: You know, I watch all of them, but man, nobody
32:29
Speaker 1: seems to screw up worse than this league.
32:31
Speaker 3: And we had the one game in the Pac twelve
32:33
Speaker 3: this week, so.
32:35
Speaker 1: The one usc uh, no ASCAR.
32:38
Speaker 3: I'm talking about Washington State one pack twelve games the
32:43
Speaker 3: whole season. Yeah, but I'm with your rusties. I can't
32:46
Speaker 3: understand why they can't get it right on replay. Why
32:48
Speaker 3: you have replay to go ahead? Where's the ball? Where's
32:50
Speaker 3: his feet? And it's like this should be a quick overcall,
32:53
Speaker 3: and it takes too long, right, it takes way too long,
32:56
Speaker 3: and they're analyzing it to death, and too much is
32:58
Speaker 3: made on the call in the field.
33:00
Speaker 1: I think, I think, you know, if it's clearly evident.
33:03
Speaker 1: And I don't watch the NFL, but don't they get
33:05
Speaker 1: two challenges.
33:07
Speaker 3: Two red flags too? If you get to keep it
33:10
Speaker 3: keep it right.
33:11
Speaker 1: Why can't they do that in college?
33:12
Speaker 8: That's good cost too much. They're trying to get an
33:16
Speaker 8: n IL sponsor.
33:17
Speaker 1: For there's got to the state farm flag out on.
33:21
Speaker 3: There's gotta be some limitations, like baseball. Next year you
33:25
Speaker 3: get to two challenges on balls and stripes. If you
33:27
Speaker 3: get it wrong, you lose it. But you don't get
33:29
Speaker 3: a never ending supply of it correct, and the officials
33:32
Speaker 3: can't stop the game over and over again. Correct. And
33:35
Speaker 3: so if you don't have a challenge, they're not going
33:37
Speaker 3: to stop the game. And I think that's the way
33:39
Speaker 3: college football has to I don't understand.
33:41
Speaker 1: It seems simple, doesn't it.
33:43
Speaker 3: They never ask, you.
33:44
Speaker 1: Know, they don't ask me I could, I could, I
33:46
Speaker 1: could make the game so much better.
33:48
Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned the Tulane coach and did some
33:51
Speaker 3: are Did you see what ut s A did to them?
33:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, they scored about a thousand on them.
33:59
Speaker 3: You talk about a guy getting mentioned and then the distraction.
34:03
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why.
34:04
Speaker 8: Maybe right, good point, because those kids aren't you know,
34:07
Speaker 8: maybe that's why, and that hurts them a little bit.
34:09
Speaker 8: You gotta watch it, you know.
34:11
Speaker 1: But uh so tomorrow night they're they're the first Paul
34:15
Speaker 1: Is out that matters. Uh And I haven't read all
34:19
Speaker 1: of the people who break all that down yet, and
34:21
Speaker 1: I don't really care because it's still we.
34:23
Speaker 8: Read a couple of too early too. I'm with you.
34:25
Speaker 1: So you think Ohio State is going to be number one?
34:28
Speaker 8: I think I think I read the good you know,
34:30
Speaker 8: and I read I like to read Kirk because Kirk's
34:33
Speaker 8: Kirk's locked in for a lot more upper people than
34:37
Speaker 8: Lord knows I be. But Ohigh State is the defending champ.
34:40
Speaker 8: They haven't played a great schedule, but when you're number
34:43
Speaker 8: one for two years and people were after you, that
34:45
Speaker 8: that is worth something a little bit. I get that,
34:48
Speaker 8: and uh, I'll go with the people I read. I
34:50
Speaker 8: think it'll be Ohio State. Because of that, you can
34:52
Speaker 8: make a case. You can make case Sadana's play a
34:55
Speaker 8: tougher schedule. When you look at Notre Dame, you look
34:57
Speaker 8: at on the road who they had, but well doesn't
35:01
Speaker 8: have the.
35:03
Speaker 1: Next shape they don't have well, but no one has
35:09
Speaker 1: less tradition than Indiana, know what. That's what I've seen. Man,
35:13
Speaker 1: watch this Indiana team. They're good. I'm telling you they were.
35:19
Speaker 3: They were a fluke last year maybe, but they have solidified.
35:23
Speaker 1: They're better. They're much better. I checked them.
35:26
Speaker 3: And of course, now when I say I expect them,
35:29
Speaker 3: that means Penn State is gonna win. But I expect
35:31
Speaker 3: them to go into Penn State and just beat them down.
35:34
Speaker 3: But if anybody's betting on it, I would pick Penn
35:36
Speaker 3: State just because I.
35:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, games, I'm awful, Oh terrible, I'm just a losing
35:42
Speaker 1: record in the day. I haven't looked, but I know
35:45
Speaker 1: I had a loser.
35:46
Speaker 8: Ri told me horrible that I was six and fourteen.
35:50
Speaker 8: I'm sure right there with you probably will. Rick told me,
35:53
Speaker 8: he said, you want to know good news? He said
35:55
Speaker 8: Chip was also six and you also six fourteen.
35:59
Speaker 1: Brusty, Gary, Oh, that just tells you how hard it is.
36:04
Speaker 1: It's just crazy.
36:05
Speaker 8: I just laugh. And of course I actually have Rick
36:08
Speaker 8: and Crystal both grade and for me, Crystal senders in
36:10
Speaker 8: first thing tomorrow morning, and that way I'm with Chip.
36:14
Speaker 3: You only pick ten games, you know.
36:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you get I can't even get I
36:17
Speaker 1: can't even get six to ten right.
36:19
Speaker 3: If you get four, right, that's not very good.
36:20
Speaker 1: That's not very good. I had a guy go ten
36:23
Speaker 1: and know this.
36:24
Speaker 8: Will call you Mario Junior.
36:26
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's not very good. It's good. But
36:29
Speaker 1: that's but that's why it's so fun to watch, right,
36:31
Speaker 1: because it is just totally unpredictable.
36:36
Speaker 8: I bring up a question, you guys, I don't understand
36:39
Speaker 8: why all these people are firing your head coach now,
36:43
Speaker 8: because you're not gonna hire anybody. If you want Lane Kiffin,
36:45
Speaker 8: he's not coming to you right now. And I wish
36:48
Speaker 8: they'd pass some kind of ruling because it takes away
36:52
Speaker 8: from Ole. Miss might have a chance to win the
36:53
Speaker 8: national championship for the first time, whether Lank Kiffins or not.
36:56
Speaker 8: And you know those guys, you're thinking, well, it is
36:58
Speaker 8: Lane leaving exactly going to go to order. I don't
37:01
Speaker 8: like the coaches. I wish they almost say you got
37:04
Speaker 8: to keep them to the end of the year, whether
37:05
Speaker 8: you love them or not. You got to keep Brian
37:07
Speaker 8: kellying to the end. But I know it's not gonna happen.
37:10
Speaker 3: Well, come on, man, DJ Dirkin, come on, I mean,
37:14
Speaker 3: what a great head coach, right, I mean, what get
37:17
Speaker 3: he freeze out of there?
37:17
Speaker 1: Get dj in man.
37:19
Speaker 8: He's interest But I just see it.
37:21
Speaker 1: He was at the press conference today and I'm thinking.
37:23
Speaker 8: Who's Arkansas gonna hire? You want to you want you
37:26
Speaker 8: want to fire Pittman early? Who are you gonna hire
37:29
Speaker 8: with two months to go into Sea.
37:30
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to take You're gonna have to take
37:32
Speaker 3: a leap on a coordinator that's hot coordinator.
37:36
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's my point. Finished it with who you got?
37:39
Speaker 3: The problem is from a standpoint, a reputation standpoint, These
37:44
Speaker 3: kids give up on you so fast. So if Pittman
37:47
Speaker 3: is a lame duck, then they're gonna have these kids waiting,
37:52
Speaker 3: kids on the roster to get out of there as
37:54
Speaker 3: fast as they can't.
37:55
Speaker 8: Why I get excited for unless they give.
37:58
Speaker 3: Well, because you could we sell them on the Hey,
38:01
Speaker 3: wait till you see who we hire. We have no
38:03
Speaker 3: earthly idea who it is, but wait to you see.
38:05
Speaker 8: You know I get that, but I do so many
38:08
Speaker 8: of them, like Penn State and everybody and everybody who's
38:11
Speaker 8: gone there. Do you think they'll go ahead and get
38:13
Speaker 8: this guy?
38:13
Speaker 1: Well, two years from now, it's gonna be so much
38:15
Speaker 1: fun to look back and say who made the right
38:18
Speaker 1: hire and who really screwed up?
38:21
Speaker 8: Even mentioned at Penn State.
38:22
Speaker 3: And I know that's.
38:24
Speaker 8: Yeah.
38:25
Speaker 1: Today they ask him about all that stuff, right, knock
38:28
Speaker 1: on wood, Yeah, it's pretty funny.
38:31
Speaker 8: That's pretty good. And he's right because in two years
38:33
Speaker 8: a lot of coaches have got extension. This year will
38:36
Speaker 8: be on the hot seat next one.
38:37
Speaker 3: That so many openings, some of these guys getting fired,
38:40
Speaker 3: they got a great chance to end up in a
38:42
Speaker 3: better situation.
38:43
Speaker 8: We're not even talking about Oklahoma State. I mean that
38:45
Speaker 8: I'm opening.
38:46
Speaker 3: That's all right.
38:47
Speaker 1: That was one of the first ones.
38:48
Speaker 8: Right, that's gonna not gonna be a bad job for something.
38:50
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I've watched Kannas State a couple
38:52
Speaker 3: of times this year, and they're not very good. They're
38:54
Speaker 3: not very consistently.
38:55
Speaker 1: They're not athletic.
38:56
Speaker 3: No, they're not.
38:56
Speaker 1: I still like the coach.
38:58
Speaker 3: I do too, but I'm very athletic too.
39:00
Speaker 1: They are not.
39:01
Speaker 8: I was sick on us watching something four in a row.
39:04
Speaker 8: I was watching the Big twelve, this wee flashing around
39:07
Speaker 8: and I said to Chi, has the Kansas State coach
39:10
Speaker 8: in Iowa State coach stayed yes, because if they want.
39:13
Speaker 1: If they wanted to leave the answers. Yes, Matt Campbell
39:17
Speaker 1: missed his window last two years.
39:20
Speaker 3: But although I'm still thinking it even I don't know.
39:22
Speaker 8: But how do you please your own fans?
39:24
Speaker 1: Were you not with Well, that's that's the thing, right, Well,
39:27
Speaker 1: here's what I would say. I mean, fans are fans.
39:31
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna be emotional, they don't care, right, but
39:34
Speaker 1: I'm going to Kansas State or to Iowa State, and
39:39
Speaker 1: they're probably getting a little lancey. As you mentioned, they
39:42
Speaker 1: lost four straight and you're going, Okay, who you're gonna get, right,
39:47
Speaker 1: that's always the question. You you want this guy out.
39:51
Speaker 1: I still think both those guys are good coaches.
39:53
Speaker 3: Right, they made a mistake by firing Damn McCartney years ago,
39:57
Speaker 3: exactly can bring him back.
40:00
Speaker 1: I mean, Dan McCartney was a heck and I loved
40:03
Speaker 1: him a lot. He was a good guy.
40:05
Speaker 3: But sometimes when you fire that guy, you're you're like, Okay,
40:09
Speaker 3: you're not gonna get the better guy.
40:10
Speaker 1: Now they got we just we just went down to
40:13
Speaker 1: litany of these major programs, Rusty, It's like, hey, when
40:17
Speaker 1: r C got fired, it's like that's it's time, right.
40:20
Speaker 3: No one's talking about hots anymore?
40:22
Speaker 14: Is Alabama coach? It's like not anymore, not anymore. I
40:25
Speaker 14: mean the number four or five, it'll only take one loss.
40:29
Speaker 14: And now you're right, that's all I have.
40:35
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you want to fire Klein to board,
40:37
Speaker 1: there's about one hundred and ten teams that'll take him tomorrow.
40:40
Speaker 3: And so Brian Kelly, surely he's gonna get a really
40:44
Speaker 3: nice I.
40:45
Speaker 1: Think he'll get a job. I don't know where, but
40:47
Speaker 1: I think he'll get a job.
40:49
Speaker 3: You would think just like a change of scenery might
40:51
Speaker 3: be really good for me.
40:52
Speaker 1: I tell you what. That's That's what I was just
40:55
Speaker 1: about to say.
40:57
Speaker 8: He'd be good for state.
40:58
Speaker 1: He reminds me of of a Penn.
41:00
Speaker 8: State northern type guy.
41:02
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Tintuck guy, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
41:05
Speaker 1: I think he'd come.
41:06
Speaker 8: In there and he give me a jerk at times.
41:09
Speaker 8: Yeah sure, but yeah.
41:11
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41:15
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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us on a writer's roundtable Monday
44:46
Speaker 1: tomorrow after John Slattery from Madmen, that's going to be
44:50
Speaker 1: with me. He is in a new movie called Nuremberg,
44:53
Speaker 1: which just has a fantastic cast and is out on Friday.
44:57
Speaker 1: We'll visit with him tomorrow. We'll have postgame bucketball tomorrow
45:02
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon in Columbia A and M and Miszoo. This
45:07
Speaker 1: MISSOI team is not flashy by any stretch of the imagination.
45:11
Speaker 1: But man, I think there are lines of scrimmage and
45:14
Speaker 1: and I'll go back to the fact that I picked
45:16
Speaker 1: Missouri is one of my dark horse teams. And they're
45:18
Speaker 1: still sitting at six uh six and two by the
45:21
Speaker 1: way for the year. But their lines of scrimmage are
45:24
Speaker 1: really good. Their defense is really good. Where I think
45:27
Speaker 1: Adem has the biggest edge personally his speed. They're not
45:29
Speaker 1: a fast, tremendously athletic football team. They look kind of
45:35
Speaker 1: like a Big ten team to me right now. But
45:39
Speaker 1: they're good. They're solid.
45:41
Speaker 3: I've watched a lot of their games. I watched the
45:43
Speaker 3: majority of the Alabama game, and I feel like they
45:46
Speaker 3: should have won that game. At the time. Their quarterback
45:49
Speaker 3: couldn't throw the football at all. This kid who's starting
45:53
Speaker 3: this week, I've heard lots of things about.
45:55
Speaker 1: He came in, you know, when they're quarter back got
46:00
Speaker 1: hurt against Vanderbilt. He is impressive. He can spin the.
46:03
Speaker 3: Ball that could hurt. And because the last guy, I
46:05
Speaker 3: didn't feel like they were so one dimensional. They could
46:08
Speaker 3: run the football, they could play great defense. Yeah, but
46:11
Speaker 3: if this kid can throw it, then it opened some
46:13
Speaker 3: things up.
46:13
Speaker 2: Well.
46:13
Speaker 1: Hardy's Hardy's maybe the best back and with leve On
46:17
Speaker 1: out you know in the in the the sec right. Yeah,
46:20
Speaker 1: he's really good.
46:21
Speaker 3: Well it's going to be a dog fight, I would
46:23
Speaker 3: I think it is.
46:23
Speaker 1: Yeah.
46:24
Speaker 8: Transferred from Monroe University Loisam Monroe three star recruit. I
46:29
Speaker 8: was over at lunch yesterday with my former roommate, who's
46:33
Speaker 8: who is on all the boards like of Monroe because
46:36
Speaker 8: that's where I went to school. He told me that
46:39
Speaker 8: great kid he dealt with the coach when he was
46:42
Speaker 8: leaving UH. Missouri offered him four hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
46:47
Speaker 8: tipped ole miss offered him six hundred thousand. But he
46:50
Speaker 8: liked Drinkwitz better than Kiffin, and Missouri made it so
46:56
Speaker 8: he could bring his horse. He loves his horse. I
46:59
Speaker 8: love he's got.
47:02
Speaker 1: That camp his horse. That is pretty cool.
47:11
Speaker 8: That's America.
47:12
Speaker 1: Hey, if he wins the game on Saturday, that's that
47:14
Speaker 1: that needs to be a story.
47:15
Speaker 8: Well if he rides his horse around the state, That's
47:17
Speaker 8: what I'm saying. But you know what A and MS
47:19
Speaker 8: last year. Last year, I thought Missouri is going to
47:21
Speaker 8: be a tough game, and they were terrible.
47:24
Speaker 1: That was the worst Missouri UH game in like two years.
47:28
Speaker 3: The best game and then.
47:30
Speaker 1: Played well, Missouri was just dead. If you'll recall, Yeah, uh,
47:36
Speaker 1: they won't be like that Saturday.
47:38
Speaker 8: That's kind of what I'm thinking. You know, they'll remember
47:41
Speaker 8: that game. They're not gonna they're not gonna be like that.
47:43
Speaker 8: I don't think.
47:44
Speaker 1: So they're at home, it's the number three t in
47:46
Speaker 1: the nation. Yeah, they're not going to be like that.
47:48
Speaker 3: Was the best single game of the year for a
47:50
Speaker 3: m start to finish. They actually put four quarters together
47:54
Speaker 3: in that game.
47:54
Speaker 8: You're right, unless you get it the second half, right,
47:57
Speaker 8: they jumped on Missouri.
47:58
Speaker 1: Which I want to go back to that resci it
48:00
Speaker 1: is and you you mentioned it as well. See, it's
48:03
Speaker 1: about putting four quarters together. Man, that's hard to do
48:07
Speaker 1: this apparently, right. It's it's hard because the competition is
48:11
Speaker 1: so good. I think as part of it, some of
48:14
Speaker 1: it's officiating. If it no, I mean, it'll it'll ruin
48:17
Speaker 1: your momentum, you know, if you have a bad back up.
48:20
Speaker 12: Two.
48:20
Speaker 1: Texas looked awesome for three three quarters that world.
48:24
Speaker 8: I mean, they were.
48:25
Speaker 1: They look like the team that people thought they could be,
48:28
Speaker 1: which is scary.
48:30
Speaker 11: Uh.
48:31
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Pabo. While I'm thinking
48:33
Speaker 1: about it. Man, My hat's off to that kid. He
48:37
Speaker 1: is this cam Scataboot of twenty. I'm telling you, those
48:42
Speaker 1: two guys are are like twins, and he is fierce,
48:46
Speaker 1: and I just I just give them a lot of credit.
48:50
Speaker 1: NFL too, he was I think he just got a
48:52
Speaker 1: bad injury. So you know he's out. But but I
48:55
Speaker 1: shouldn't know that because I don't really care.
48:58
Speaker 3: But I'm impressed that you did.
48:59
Speaker 1: Thank you.
49:00
Speaker 8: I was pretty improud.
49:01
Speaker 1: Caleb says, I already knew that before you told me.
49:03
Speaker 1: I believe Caleb, you think you told me. Caleb is
49:06
Speaker 1: trying to take credit take credit to that, But anyway,
49:09
Speaker 1: h Vanderbilt athletically has no business being on the field
49:13
Speaker 1: with most teams. They've they've got a few, don't get
49:15
Speaker 1: me wrong, right, they've got a few. But but I
49:20
Speaker 1: don't know if you switch rosters with Texas and Vanderbilt,
49:23
Speaker 1: it's like, you know that that just wouldn't work. But
49:26
Speaker 1: I clark Lee to me, this guy's really good. He
49:30
Speaker 1: is really good what he's done.
49:32
Speaker 3: And there's a name that you might yeah, and would
49:36
Speaker 3: he leave his alma mater for the right money, in
49:40
Speaker 3: the right job. Take Florida job, would.
49:42
Speaker 8: You because he's also thinking I can't win a national
49:44
Speaker 8: championship here. Let's be honest.
49:46
Speaker 1: No, I don't think he is thinking that. I really don't.
49:49
Speaker 1: These guys we've talked about that, they're different, right. No,
49:54
Speaker 1: I don't think he's thinking like that. I'm thinking, Hey,
49:57
Speaker 1: we're just getting going here.
49:59
Speaker 3: I think Mike has his dream job right now. I
50:02
Speaker 3: really do.
50:03
Speaker 1: I don't know we've heard that before. Maybe you know
50:05
Speaker 1: every coach that's been here has been his dream job.
50:07
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Elko would leave Rustley. Don't get
50:10
Speaker 1: me wrong. I think I'm not saying.
50:11
Speaker 3: No, I know what you're saying, but I think this
50:14
Speaker 3: is really it. Would Mike Elko go to Florida? I
50:19
Speaker 3: don't think so with what he's done right now at
50:23
Speaker 3: this sleeping giant.
50:24
Speaker 1: I mean, why don't you leave right right now? You've built, right,
50:29
Speaker 1: I mean, if if.
50:30
Speaker 3: You win a national title here then okay.
50:32
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd argue he's still building it.
50:34
Speaker 1: He's here two years, oh yeah, yeah, he's still four years.
50:37
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. But as we've said, day to day, week
50:41
Speaker 1: to week, year to year, you know, you're not guaranteed anything.
50:44
Speaker 1: In fact, you're not guaranteed these last four games, you
50:47
Speaker 1: got to go out and take those last four years.
50:49
Speaker 8: Still going to be to be Texas, And so I.
50:51
Speaker 1: Would argue you still have to be South Carolina after
50:54
Speaker 1: watching them that you know they're still playing pretty hard
50:56
Speaker 1: with you.
50:57
Speaker 3: But I'm saying anything less than eleven to one right
50:59
Speaker 3: now is a.
51:00
Speaker 1: Sure it is, but they aren't there unless something just
51:04
Speaker 1: kind of straphic happens. They're going to the playoffs. They're
51:07
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, right, Yeah, they can lose to Missouri
51:11
Speaker 1: and Texas and still be in the playoffs. Now, you
51:13
Speaker 1: don't want to get a committee. You don't want to
51:15
Speaker 1: do it, and you don't want to give the committee
51:17
Speaker 1: any any excuse.
51:19
Speaker 3: Right right now, they're a top four seed, yes, and
51:22
Speaker 3: so as long as you maintain that, yeah, of course
51:26
Speaker 3: you still got to go play in the SEC title
51:27
Speaker 3: game if you're a top four seed, because if you're
51:29
Speaker 3: eleven and one, you're gonna go play in the SEC
51:31
Speaker 3: Titler game. Yeah, and yeah.
51:33
Speaker 1: One loss with one law, Yeah, with one loss, you'll
51:36
Speaker 1: play in the title game for sure.
51:38
Speaker 3: And what you do in the title game really doesn't
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Speaker 3: matter except for seeding.
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Speaker 1: I guess correct seeding, But the higher.
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Speaker 3: Seed you want, I mean, obviously you.
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Speaker 1: Don't want to see where you're gonna go on Ah,
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Speaker 1: have to play a road game, right yeah, I saw
51:53
Speaker 1: right now, they're not. They wouldn't have to.
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Speaker 3: The projection I saw today had A and M is
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Speaker 3: a four seed and.
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Speaker 8: It was the three seed.
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Speaker 1: The three seeds was Alabama.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Alabama, okay, yeah, and the two seed was Indiana
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Speaker 3: and yes, yeah, yeah, and A M was going to
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Speaker 3: play the winner of Georgia and Memphis, Okay at Calfield.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so that I'll take that. That'd be awesome. Georgia
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Speaker 1: Calfield have a playoff game. That'd be pretty cool, be.
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Speaker 3: Fun to see, pretty cool. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Still still a.
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Speaker 3: Little like, No, there's there's a lot I got to
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Speaker 3: take care, a lot of ways to go. And you know,
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Speaker 3: they've been here, similar situation. There was a similar situation
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Speaker 3: last year. I just feel like it's a different No.
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Speaker 1: It's different. Yeah, it's it's totally different. I mean I agree, yeah,
52:37
Speaker 1: it's not last year.
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Speaker 3: It's a team that found a way to win against
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Speaker 3: Notre Dame versus a team that just didn't really show
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Speaker 3: up last year.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they are sitting right now they are one
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Speaker 1: of the three to four best teams in the country.
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that.
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Speaker 3: And they could beat you so many different ways.
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Speaker 1: Well they can't. I mean they're they're playing on both
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Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Well, now that's why I asked
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Speaker 1: the block punts. You know, people may get upset about that,
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Speaker 1: but I'm going to no, No, it's a good question.
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Speaker 1: If you're if you're in some of these games, it
53:06
Speaker 1: is remarkable in my opinion that they've overcome those two mistakes.
53:11
Speaker 1: And I don't care who you're playing or where you're playing,
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Speaker 1: but they did it on the road twice with plays
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Speaker 1: that that typically can turn an entire football game around
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Speaker 1: against good teams, against two good teams, so the other
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Speaker 1: one really good team team. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: The other thing that got to concern you if you're
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Speaker 3: going to look down the road, if A and M
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Speaker 3: has to kick a forty five yard field goal with
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Speaker 3: a game online, that worries me.
53:37
Speaker 1: Do you have confidence?
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Speaker 3: I don't have confidence in that right now. And so
53:41
Speaker 3: the other thing is is you could be nitpicky. I mean,
53:44
Speaker 3: how can they improve, Well, they can improve in special teams,
53:47
Speaker 3: they can improve that it reduces to produce the penalties, right, yes,
53:51
Speaker 3: and they have.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is the best team I've seen offensively since
53:57
Speaker 8: twenty thirteen, just because they get the ball twenty yard
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Speaker 8: line with the game on the line, and they could
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Speaker 8: score in five plays and there was that. So many
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Speaker 8: teams that couldn't do that. And what I like about
54:06
Speaker 8: this team opposed the thirteenth team defense, they got a defense. Yeah,
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Speaker 8: and that's they got both of them because Jimbo built
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Speaker 8: a pretty decent offense. Uh while Elko was here, but
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Speaker 8: they couldn't score quick. They couldn't score enough. They were methodical,
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Speaker 8: you know.
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Speaker 1: At seventeen played drives exactly.
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Speaker 8: He got all the weapons, which is nice, which is
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Speaker 8: what you need. And let's be honest when we're watching
54:32
Speaker 8: the game I quit to so far was Notre Dame game.
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Speaker 8: Notre Dame had a great offense. Notre Dame had a
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Speaker 8: good defense. That was just a good game for the
54:39
Speaker 8: third game in the year. They might meet again.
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Speaker 3: And to be fair, the special team touchdowns have been
54:45
Speaker 3: very good, you know, has been really good.
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Speaker 16: He's been good. I mean, who who if you're stupid
54:50
Speaker 16: enough to punt to him? Yeah, so that's on you. Yeah, exactly,
54:55
Speaker 16: and then bussy. I mean he's he's been good to
54:58
Speaker 16: return to kickoffs since.
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Speaker 8: And it ain't even protects the ball. Well, I've never seen
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Speaker 8: a team that has not.
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Speaker 1: Today no fumble or one thumb. I don't remember did
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Speaker 1: I say one?
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Speaker 8: Maybe they might have won. I think they have won
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Speaker 8: football when they when they muffed at one almost when
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Speaker 8: it was bussy, we were saying, when's the last time
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Speaker 8: we see the fumble? When they protect the football?
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Speaker 1: That's hell co right, all right, boys, that's.
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Speaker 8: On my head.
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Speaker 1: They get off the field. Hey, next week there's a
55:26
Speaker 1: home game, believe it or not.
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Speaker 8: Really, I'll be nice and early.
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be nice and early, very
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Speaker 1: zero fumbles. See you guys next week. Must be bursting.
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