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What Happened at Great Wolf Lodge? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Distressing news out of the
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  Speaker 1: Great Wolf Lodge Resort. A young mother, 27-year-old Metallica Rose Harrison,
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  Speaker 1: allegedly stabbing her husband and her three-year-old son dead. Reports
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  Speaker 1: surfacing tonight, she never wanted to get pregnant. She didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to have the baby. He's three years old now,
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  Speaker 1: as I said. She resented the time her husband spent
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  Speaker 1: with the baby and that she drained the bank accounts
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  Speaker 1: for the vacation at Great Wolf Lodge and to remodel
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  Speaker 1: her kitchen. Okay, I want to find out the latest.
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  Speaker 1: Straight out to Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave McDave. Are
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  Speaker 1: we going to have another psychotic break situation that we
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  Speaker 1: just endured with Lindsay Clancy?
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  Speaker 2: I think we might be headed in that direction, Nancy,
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  Speaker 2: because immediately as this was unfolding, we've got Metallica Rose
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  Speaker 2: Harrison claiming that she wanted to end her own life.
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  Speaker 2: She's got marks on her wrist and neck. She wants
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  Speaker 2: to join her son and husband. But you know what?
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  Speaker 2: What she said in the immediate aftermath of all of this,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't match up with what we're now finding out at all.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what direction she's going to head
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  Speaker 2: for a defense, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Hold on. Am I hearing that she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: kill herself? She was unsuccessful with that, but she did
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  Speaker 1: manage to kill her husband and their three-year-old little boy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And it was almost overkill when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to her husband, Nancy. He was stabbed numerous times in
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  Speaker 2: the chest and Her son, thankfully, this little three-year-old precious
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  Speaker 2: baby was stabbed one time. But what Metallica Rose Harrison
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  Speaker 2: claims on 911 is that she needed police to come
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  Speaker 2: finish the job. She needed to finish killing herself and
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  Speaker 2: she needed help because she wasn't strong enough to do
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  Speaker 2: it anymore. And she continued making statements like that, Nancy,
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  Speaker 2: all along the way, talking about how deep do I
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  Speaker 2: need to go in the veins in my wrist so
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  Speaker 2: I can get it right next time.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so she understood how deeply she had to cut
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  Speaker 1: to kill her husband and three-year-old, but not when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to her own veins. Let me understand something else.
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  Speaker 1: The husband, Charles Harrison, had a 401k set up. Is
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  Speaker 1: it true she drained the entire thing in order to
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  Speaker 1: go on vacation at Great Wolf?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and see, not just that, you know... The idea
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  Speaker 2: was that this vacation at Grateful Wolf Lodge was going
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  Speaker 2: to be an early Christmas present for three-year-old Tristan. That
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  Speaker 2: was part one of it. But the other thing of
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  Speaker 2: the account was supposedly to remodel the kitchen in their home.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed that when she was on the phone with 911,
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  Speaker 1: she says, and I quote, my husband and son are
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  Speaker 1: already gone in the bed in the living room. They're
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  Speaker 1: already gone. I'm sorry. So she immediately knew that what
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  Speaker 1: she had done was wrong, which was going to totally
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  Speaker 1: rule out an insanity defense. unless we go Glancy style
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  Speaker 1: with the defense. And for those few short minutes that
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  Speaker 1: she committed the murders, that was when she had a
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  Speaker 1: psychotic break. But then when she called 911, the psychotic
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  Speaker 1: break was over. Did she say that to 911 quote?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, she did. Um, she said that, um, that her
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  Speaker 2: I'm too weak to stab my own neck. I need police.
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  Speaker 2: She was telling them right off the bat. She knew
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  Speaker 2: what she was doing and what she was trying to do. Nancy, um,
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  Speaker 2: She told dispatchers about the knives that she had, but then,
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  Speaker 2: as you mentioned, she said, I don't want to be
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  Speaker 2: here anymore, saying she wanted to be with her husband
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  Speaker 2: and son. Again, she was strong enough to kill him,
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  Speaker 2: as you point out, but she couldn't do herself? Makes
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  Speaker 2: no sense.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me backtrack. Fill me in. How did the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing start? What do you know?
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  Speaker 2: I know that on September 21st, the Harrison family checked
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  Speaker 2: into the Great Wolf Lodge for a vacation. Now, the
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  Speaker 2: vacation was booked through October the 5th, but Metallica Rose
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  Speaker 2: Harrison extended this vacation on October the 5th through the 13th.
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  Speaker 2: So now we've got to stay from September 21 to
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  Speaker 2: October the 13th, paid for ostensibly by emptying the 401k
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  Speaker 2: of her husband, Charles. This was supposed to be an
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  Speaker 2: early Christmas present for their three-year-old. Anyway, once they're there, Nancy,
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  Speaker 2: something happens with this family. We've got pictures of them
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  Speaker 2: playing and things like that, but the night before all
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  Speaker 2: this happens, in their hotel room, there's video everywhere, and
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  Speaker 2: we see Metallica Rose Harrison and her husband Charles, they
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  Speaker 2: leave the room together the evening before. We're talking about
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  Speaker 2: 10.43 p.m. They leave their son, their three-year-old son Tristan, alone,
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  Speaker 2: in the hotel room. The Harrison couple then goes to
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  Speaker 2: a game room, an arcade on the facility property where
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  Speaker 2: they remain until after 11 o'clock. They're seen going back
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  Speaker 2: into their room at 1122. They left their three-year-old son
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  Speaker 2: in the room by himself from 1043 to 1122 PM.
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  Speaker 2: As for starters, it goes back to something that her
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  Speaker 2: mother-in-law says about Metallica Rose saying that she didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to have a baby. Because the baby took time away
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  Speaker 2: from her time with Charles. And that's what she wanted.
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  Speaker 2: So she got the time with Charles in the arcade
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  Speaker 2: that night. They're not seen again alive. And then we
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  Speaker 2: have the 911 call from Metallica Rose. Okay, Dave Mack, I.
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  Speaker 1: Understand the Great Wolf Lodge massacre blew up during a
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  Speaker 1: three-week Family, vacation. I've never had a three-week vacation. Have
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  Speaker 1: you ever had a three-week vacation? Be honest. If you have,
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  Speaker 1: just tell me. I'm not judging.
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  Speaker 2: No. Nancy, I'd be bragging about it if I had
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  Speaker 2: a three-week vacation.
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  Speaker 1: Three weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out what prompted this, what
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  Speaker 1: led up to it. And, of course, Dave Mack, as
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  Speaker 1: you and I have talked many, many times on and
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  Speaker 1: off air, the state never has to prove motive at all.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what led up to it, but I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious about their relationship. I'm curious about what relatives
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  Speaker 1: are saying, that she never wanted to have a baby,
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  Speaker 1: that she never wanted to be pregnant because a baby
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  Speaker 1: takes away time between her and her husband, their alone time.
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  Speaker 1: Did I get that right?
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  Speaker 2: You did. And, Nancy, there's something else to look at
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  Speaker 2: with this. While we're getting an idea that Metallica Rose
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  Speaker 2: Harrison did not want to be pregnant, did not want
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  Speaker 2: to have a child. Now she's got, think about it.
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  Speaker 2: Tristan is three years old, nine months of a pregnancy.
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  Speaker 2: So four years of her life, she lost with her
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  Speaker 2: husband is the way she's looking at this. She's jealous
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  Speaker 2: of the baby. But Nancy, inside that room, the investigators
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  Speaker 2: found a butcher knife and like a steak knife. Now
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  Speaker 2: the Great Wolf Lodge says, those knives did not come
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  Speaker 2: from us. We don't have those knives. And when you
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  Speaker 2: look a little deeper into the room, you also find
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  Speaker 2: out that inside a bucket next near the husband, near
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  Speaker 2: Charles and Tristan, there was a bucket that had a
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  Speaker 2: brownish red liquid in it. Investigators believe it to be blood.
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  Speaker 2: They'll have to find out. Same thing was true with
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  Speaker 2: a bucket in the bathroom, a bucket that had a
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  Speaker 2: brown red liquid in it. I'm only saying that because
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  Speaker 2: we've got this blood type substance and we've got knives
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  Speaker 2: that don't belong at the Great Wolf Lodge, something they
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  Speaker 2: don't have. Think about that for just a minute in
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  Speaker 2: terms of planning. If you've got a butcher knife and
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  Speaker 2: a steak knife, well, and you're not going to be
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  Speaker 2: cutting up steak in a hotel room where the best
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  Speaker 2: you can do is go down the hallway to microwave
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  Speaker 2: your food, okay, that or eating in a restaurant. You've
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  Speaker 2: got no need for a butcher knife and a steak knife.
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  Speaker 2: Those were brought to this resort for a reason.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Dave, I get it. She brought the
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  Speaker 1: knives with her. That's what you're implying. And it may
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  Speaker 1: or may not be true. For all I know, they
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  Speaker 1: went to a restaurant. She got them there. Doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: because if she obtained the murder weapons elsewhere and brought
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  Speaker 1: them to the room, that shows premeditation. And as you
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  Speaker 1: and I both know, we've commented many times, premeditation does
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  Speaker 1: not require a long thought-out plan. Example, poisoning someone over
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  Speaker 1: weeks and months until they kill over dead. Premeditation under
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  Speaker 1: the law, this is not street vernacular or how you
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  Speaker 1: and I would think of premeditation, but under the law,
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  Speaker 1: Premeditation can be formed in the blink of an eye.
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  Speaker 1: And the time it takes you, literally, to pull a trigger,
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  Speaker 1: that is time under the law for premeditation to be formed. Therefore,
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  Speaker 1: you would be facing first-degree premeditated murder. So she brought
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  Speaker 1: this butcher knife in from another location, then used it
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  Speaker 1: as a murder weapon that indicates premeditation, as does draining
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  Speaker 1: all the bank accounts. Because she knew, it could be argued,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't going to ever remodel the kitchen. They She
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  Speaker 1: was going to kill them, stab them dead. So who
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  Speaker 1: needs a retirement? Bye-bye, 401K. That, I'm also learning that
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  Speaker 1: there were reportedly, that there were no defensive wounds on
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  Speaker 1: either the husband or the baby, the three-year-old son. Which means, what,
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  Speaker 1: did she stab probably the dad first because he could
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  Speaker 1: fight back and keep her from killing the son or
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  Speaker 1: defend himself? What, stabbed in his sleep? I'm interested in
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  Speaker 1: the toxicology. Was he drugged in some way unbeknownst to him?
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  Speaker 1: I'm just spinning out possibilities here. But first, is it true,
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  Speaker 1: Dave Mack, there were no defensive wounds?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely correct. No defensive wounds. You mentioned the possible drugging.
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  Speaker 2: Investigators did find medication bottles, plural, in the hotel room.
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  Speaker 2: They did not tell us what they were yet. We'll
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  Speaker 2: find that out later. You also mentioned looking at ways
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  Speaker 2: that they could see how she was planning. Well, search
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  Speaker 2: warrant of their home, Nancy, you know, they they being investigators,
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  Speaker 2: got laptops, journals, sealed envelopes, a safe, and anything else
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  Speaker 2: they could find that was electronic and kept records of finances, notes,
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  Speaker 2: and plans. Those have all been taken by investigators at
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  Speaker 2: this point.
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  Speaker 1: Also, Dave, unlike a GSW gunshot wound to, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: the head or the chest, with stabbing wounds, depending on
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  Speaker 1: the location of the infliction of the wound, You could
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  Speaker 1: take two to five or maybe even more minutes to
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  Speaker 1: bleed out, which means they suffered, Dave.
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  Speaker 2: It's horrible to even think about, Nancy. I was thinking
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  Speaker 2: about Charles Harrison.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to transport yourself emotionally because we're
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  Speaker 1: analyzing a double murder. I'm talking to you, Dave, strictly
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  Speaker 1: about the probative facts. What does any one or more
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  Speaker 1: facts prove to me? I'm trying to figure out, is
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  Speaker 1: this premeditated? You've got the draining of the accounts. You
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  Speaker 1: have the multiple stab wounds, which means it took longer
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  Speaker 1: to perpetrate the offense, which means every second that goes
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  Speaker 1: by gives you more time to premeditate your next stab
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  Speaker 1: and your next victim. The accounts, they're bringing in the weapons,
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  Speaker 1: the multiple stab wounds. Were they drugged? I mean, It's
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  Speaker 1: all leading to premeditation. That's where I'm going. You can
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  Speaker 1: feel horrible when you get off the air. We can
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  Speaker 1: both go and have a good cry, okay? But for
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  Speaker 1: right now, the evidence, the evidence, okay? Do we have
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  Speaker 1: any idea where the stabs were inflicted?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, they were inflicted into Charles Harrison's chest, Nancy. But look,
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  Speaker 2: the time of day and what took place, we know
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  Speaker 2: Charles Harrison was stabbed multiple times. He was on a mattress.
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  Speaker 2: His body was found on a mattress. And Tristan was
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  Speaker 2: found on another mattress on the floor. Now, when you
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  Speaker 2: look at the stabbings of Charles Harrison, it seems like
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  Speaker 2: maybe Charles Harrison was asleep. And that's how Metallica Rose
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  Speaker 2: Harrison was able to get the upper hand and stab
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  Speaker 2: him multiple times in the chest. She didn't have to
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  Speaker 2: stab Tristan multiple times.
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  Speaker 1: Echo chamber i've already said i think that at least
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  Speaker 1: one of them was asleep now what were you saying
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  Speaker 1: about mattresses well.
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  Speaker 2: The mattresses were on the floor and charles harrison was
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  Speaker 2: found on one and baby tristan on another they were
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  Speaker 2: side by side so they probably were laid on the
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  Speaker 2: floor having a nap and as you mentioned it only
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  Speaker 2: took one stab wound for tristan you know i'm.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at the time too dave mac and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have plenty of time to analyze this and hash it
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  Speaker 1: all out but They were last seen alive around 11.22 p.m.,
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  Speaker 1: 11.22 p.m., when the mom and the dad came back
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  Speaker 1: from the arcade, and they had left the son alone
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  Speaker 1: in the room. All right, so if Cobbs got there
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  Speaker 1: at 3.13 p.m., that means she goes from 11 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: to 11 a.m., which is 12 hours plus four. It's
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  Speaker 1: about 16 hours. She's alone in the room with the
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  Speaker 1: husband and the baby, I'm wondering if they could tell
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  Speaker 1: by the condition of the body, were they already in
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  Speaker 1: rigor mortis? Had rigor mortis already set in and then broken? Because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, rigor breaks after a period of hours. What
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  Speaker 1: was the ambient temperature in the room? What was the
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  Speaker 1: temperature of their bodies? Was the blood congealed? All of
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  Speaker 1: these will tell me how long they've been laying there dead.
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  Speaker 1: So does that affect premeditation?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: No. but I want to know how long she was
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  Speaker 1: in the room with the dead bodies before she called 911,
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  Speaker 1: which goes to she didn't even try to save them.
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  Speaker 1: See where I'm going with that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, she didn't make, on the 911 call, she
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  Speaker 2: never mentioned send help. I made a horrible decision and
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  Speaker 2: tried to, you know, no, they were gone.
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  Speaker 1: And one more fact to throw at you, Dave Mack,
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  Speaker 1: is that she, Metallica Rose Harrison, age 27, apparently told
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  Speaker 1: police at the time, that she took medication to thin
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  Speaker 1: her blood to make her bleed out more readily, which
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  Speaker 1: if she was having that conversation with police, she's sane. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You can put that in your pipe and smoke it,
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  Speaker 1: Dave Mack.
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  Speaker 2: She did. And Nancy, she actually had that discussion with
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  Speaker 2: a nurse. Also, she was mad and she said, I'm
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  Speaker 2: mad because my blood is coagulating. It's clogging up. She
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  Speaker 2: says that she planned the blood thinner to make sure
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  Speaker 2: she bled to death, but Nancy, you're right. She was
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  Speaker 2: totally in control of all of her faculties, knew everything
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  Speaker 2: that was going on, planned it out and made it happen.
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  Speaker 1: Dave, are you sitting down?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I am.
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  Speaker 1: When she gets to the hospital alive with a couple
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  Speaker 1: of scratches on her arm, they go, what brings you
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  Speaker 1: here tonight? She goes, I'm not stupid. Good luck trying
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  Speaker 1: to tell a jury that you are temporarily insane, Lindsay Clancy.
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  Speaker 2: She is at such an odd time to be sarcastic
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  Speaker 2: or try to be snarky. I'm so not stupid. Tells
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  Speaker 2: you a lot more about her, her emotional state, her
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  Speaker 2: psychological state, her mental awareness in that moment in the
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  Speaker 2: hours after her husband is found with multiple stab wounds
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  Speaker 2: in his chest and her three-year-old son, one stab wound
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  Speaker 2: to the chest and dead in their hotel room.
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  Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds. The investigation is still ongoing
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  Speaker 1: there in the Poconos. Nancy Grace and Dave Mack signing off. Goodbye.