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S4 E13: Injury Bug Bites Again · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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Speaker 1: O City, what's up? What's up? Rob? We're gonna be
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Speaker 1: back another week. And as we inched closer opening day here,
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: So in the podcast game, let's get it tough news today.
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Speaker 1: But hey, we're still we're still haven't played a snap yet.
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Speaker 1: It was I've been I've been fighting punches all day
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Speaker 1: from group chat after group chat. I'm sure on Twitter
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Speaker 1: it's been hot today. Yeah, we still haven't played a snap.
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Speaker 1: We still haven't played a snap. So but let's get.
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Speaker 2: Into it, all right, Well, we'll get into it. We'll
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Speaker 2: dive into it again.
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Speaker 2: That we sign will cast on.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys already tuning in and joining us,
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Speaker 3: already up too close to one hundred people on all
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Speaker 3: the platforms, so DT there's no getting around it, there's
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Speaker 3: no skirting it. We got to change our game plan
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Speaker 3: for tonight and and really hit with what leads off
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Speaker 3: the show. Around this afternoon, we found out that my
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Speaker 3: Milano goes down with a bicep injury. I know, when
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Speaker 3: I watched some of those videos, it just seemed like
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Speaker 3: it was really really innocent. It didn't seem like there
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Speaker 3: was anything that, you know, stood out on that one play.
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Speaker 3: I know McDermott had mentioned something like he even thought
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Speaker 3: that maybe Milano hit another guy, hit one of the
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Speaker 3: trainers or something like that as well. But in some
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Speaker 3: of the videos that I saw, like it just looked
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Speaker 3: like a regular wrap up, you know, gator role.
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Speaker 2: He's done for a little while now.
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Speaker 3: Now, Adam Schefter did say Bill's Bonfia Nickel City Crew
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Speaker 3: that he could come back in December. It said possibly,
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Speaker 3: but you know, you know, Schefter's not a doctor, so
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Speaker 3: obviously he's getting that information from somebody. But it's interesting
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Speaker 3: because when I looked at it and I saw it,
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Speaker 3: you know, obviously it just it hurt because of the
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Speaker 3: fact that he's such a big part of the defense
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Speaker 3: and obviously you know, him coming back and having an
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Speaker 3: opportunity to you know, get back to form.
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Speaker 2: And what did I tell you today? Even when we
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Speaker 2: were kind.
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Speaker 3: Of going back and forth and I was like, well,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it's a leg injury.
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Speaker 2: It's not ligament.
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Speaker 3: So it's not like Bond or it's not like Tradeavius
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Speaker 3: where you got to get that confidence back and you're
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Speaker 3: you're worried about popping something again or anything like that.
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Speaker 2: It's a leg.
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Speaker 3: It was a freak snap in London. So it was
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Speaker 3: a situation where I, I don't know, DT, what's your
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Speaker 3: assessment of it? Because it kind of puts me in
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Speaker 3: a somber mood because he was going to be real
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Speaker 3: important to what we talked about on that defensive episode.
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Speaker 2: Just like I mean, you know, some of the tent
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Speaker 2: poles still have to be there.
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Speaker 3: You could change a lot of the things on the
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Speaker 3: back end, and the safeties are gone, and we would
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Speaker 3: like to, you know, we cope and say, well, you
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Speaker 3: know they were getting older anyway, but you know you
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Speaker 3: still need some of those those firm pillars there to
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Speaker 3: carry out that McDermot defense.
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Speaker 2: And he's he's one of the biggest pieces, man.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're right, that's a good analogy. The
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Speaker 1: some tent poles have to be there to to get
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Speaker 1: under and be you know, be protected from the elements.
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Speaker 1: And I was I was cautiously optimistic on this situation
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Speaker 1: strictly because of Bond and Tredavius and you know, and
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Speaker 1: man Milana was not your poster child of health either, right.
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Speaker 1: You know, he's been in the league since since twenty
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Speaker 1: you know, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen season and really has
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Speaker 1: never played all seventeen games. Had a few years in
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Speaker 1: a row in twenty one and twenty two where you know,
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Speaker 1: he had great seasons, had the first team All Pro
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Speaker 1: and you know when played the majority of those for sure,
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Speaker 1: But you know he's not a poster child of health
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Speaker 1: by any means. So this is in a way unfortunately
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Speaker 1: characteristic in a way. Is not to discredit it, but
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Speaker 1: to make myself feel better about going to sleep at night.
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Speaker 1: Is this is is he the Dawson Knox of the defense,
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Speaker 1: you know, had a couple, had had a breakout, had
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Speaker 1: a breakout, We rely on it, and then he's just
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Speaker 1: kind of, yeah, he's a good player still on our team,
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Speaker 1: but we're not relying on him anymore. Is that what
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Speaker 1: it's going to turn into with Matt Milano? And you know,
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Speaker 1: I think at age of thirty and being you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of a made of glass is a tough term
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Speaker 1: because he just had two strong years of two strong
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Speaker 1: years of play, and you know, anybody's leg snaps in
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Speaker 1: half in that situation. It's not like just because he's
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Speaker 1: prone to injury that it's like snaps like that. You know,
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Speaker 1: anybody's leg with a snap like that last year. But
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Speaker 1: I was definitely cautiously optimistic going into this, you know,
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Speaker 1: because of Bond, because of Trey being north to thirty
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Speaker 1: and coming back to all pro level, especially at the
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Speaker 1: linebacker position. Is it is a tough It's a tough
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Speaker 1: thing to do. So it stinks, and like you said,
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Speaker 1: the tent Poles some have to be there everyone. This
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Speaker 1: was kind of what everyone was hanging their hat on, like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we lost we lost Michael, we lost Foyer, we lost
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Speaker 1: your wife, but we still got Milano. But we still
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Speaker 1: got Milano. Now we don't, so stop up man next time.
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Speaker 1: This is not ideal for a kind of a situation
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Speaker 1: where the offseason was very questionable and this and that.
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Speaker 1: In the first preseason it didn't go well and then
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Speaker 1: now you know, somebody you were kind of banking on
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Speaker 1: that goes down for the year. So not not ideal
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Speaker 1: for Bill Mafia.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not ideal for sure. And one of
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Speaker 3: the things that my mind quickly went to, you know,
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Speaker 3: and you're absolutely right, because Twitter was a blaze and a
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Speaker 3: lot of people talking about you know, injuries and and
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Speaker 3: this and that and then blaming the staff, and I'm like,
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Speaker 3: this is football, you know what I mean, Like people
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Speaker 3: get hurt on all thirty two teams, you know what
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Speaker 3: I mean? And I know that a lot there's there
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Speaker 3: is a portion of the Mafia though, DT and I
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Speaker 3: heard them on Twitter today just talking about how they
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Speaker 3: think that there's something that's wrong with McDermott's you know,
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Speaker 3: his staff and what I had to, you know, caution
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Speaker 3: people was that, like, remember, in the beginning of mcdermot's tenure,
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Speaker 3: we were inexplicably healthy, I mean, poorter and I never
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Speaker 3: miss games. You know, we had one of the year
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Speaker 3: was like the man Man Games loss. We led the
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Speaker 3: entire NFL. So I don't think that there's something wrong
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Speaker 3: with the facility or ad pro or something like that.
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't buy that. But there's definitely a
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Speaker 3: case of bad luck in respects to the fact that,
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Speaker 3: you know, we just can't seem to get out of
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Speaker 3: our own way, and and then a rebuilding year like
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Speaker 3: you talked about for for being it seems like, you know,
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Speaker 3: it just it just seems like it couldn't happened at
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Speaker 3: a worse time, because we'll talk about it coming up
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Speaker 3: right now about the replacements. But I'm in a situation
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Speaker 3: where I was like, man, you know, this was not
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Speaker 3: something that I prepared for because of the fact that
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Speaker 3: what you just said, I was always relying on, Okay,
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Speaker 3: well at least fifty eight's coming back, and like that
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Speaker 3: was a big part of it as well, and well
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Speaker 3: what's Vonn gonna be? And you know, and and who's
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Speaker 3: going to be playing, you know, opposite of you know
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Speaker 3: of Taylor Rap and different things like that. I'm like, well,
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Speaker 3: like you just said, fifty eight is gonna be there
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Speaker 3: and that's gonna be good enough and and help out
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Speaker 3: a lot, and like now, to lose that really sucks
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Speaker 3: and it leads us into the next segue, which is
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Speaker 3: who is the replacement for him? And it looks like
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Speaker 3: Dorian Williams, you know, next man up approach. But you know,
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Speaker 3: one of my biggest, you know, one of my biggest
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Speaker 3: problems with him is that he plays fast, which I love.
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Speaker 3: You know, you make a mistake, make it fast, so
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Speaker 3: that way we can coach it up. But he just
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Speaker 3: seems to be consistently in the wrong spots and that
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Speaker 3: it just worries me because of the fact that he
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Speaker 3: is he's a young player, I know, second year, but man,
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Speaker 3: it seems like he's always out of position or or
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Speaker 3: not always. I'll give him, I'll give him some credit,
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Speaker 3: but it seems like more often than not, he's he's
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Speaker 3: in the wrong gaps, he's reading the wrong keys, and
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Speaker 3: and that's that's just not something that you had to
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Speaker 3: worry about.
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Speaker 1: Fifty eight a rookie last year, didn't have a lot
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Speaker 1: of reps, right, But when it came crunched on, when
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Speaker 1: he got into the playoffs, when it got into a
9:07
Speaker 1: situation where we needed to stop teams, they didn't put
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Speaker 1: Dorian Williams out there to start. They Aj Klein off
9:14
Speaker 1: the couch, they're bringing, you know, like they were it
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Speaker 1: were better off with this guy off the couch and
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Speaker 1: this rookie who has some potential. Right, So he got
9:22
Speaker 1: consciously optimistic going into that as well. You know, we
9:27
Speaker 1: didn't see Dorian Williams to finished product last year and
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Speaker 1: a few reps that we saw from him, but he
9:32
Speaker 1: didn't show enough in one full year of play for
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Speaker 1: the team to be relying on him to go into
9:36
Speaker 1: a playoff game against Patrick Mahomes in which, you know,
9:39
Speaker 1: to be honest, we got pretty carved up, you know,
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Speaker 1: through through that, through that exact area, through the middle,
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Speaker 1: and why wouldn't we, right, So you hope he can
9:48
Speaker 1: he can get another offseason, another kind of a way
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Speaker 1: of learning under Matt Mlano and another full off season.
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Speaker 1: You know, he was getting a lot of reps during
9:56
Speaker 1: training camp because Matt Millana was kind of ramping up
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Speaker 1: and not taking taking everything. So you know, we can
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Speaker 1: only hope that that's gonna result in production on the field.
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Speaker 1: And Al Bernard on the other side, is also going
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Speaker 1: to have to be more than he was last year.
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Speaker 1: He kind of was a surprise breakout which helped fill
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Speaker 1: that boy to Matt Malona leaving. We're gonna need him
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Speaker 1: to be that constant all year long now and help
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Speaker 1: these young guys around him to you know, to fill
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Speaker 1: those holes. I mean even bail inspectors out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So like like Nick Morrow, I think it's hurt, you know,
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Speaker 3: came back today, but I mean they've got injuries all
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Speaker 3: over around the linebacker room.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it's interesting, you know, DT, because it's just
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Speaker 3: like you know, like I said, the bad luck thing.
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Speaker 3: Then that's why I named the episode the way that
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Speaker 3: it did, because this injury bug just continues to bite us.
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Speaker 3: And it's interesting because you know, last night we wanted
10:43
Speaker 3: to joke around and we wanted to, you know, make
10:45
Speaker 3: fun of it. I wanted to make fun of the
10:46
Speaker 3: Bills at least for bringing in Corey Davis for a workout,
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Speaker 3: and we were you know, trying to figure out if
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Speaker 3: it was it couldn't have just been Chase Claypool's injury
10:54
Speaker 3: or anything like that, because he brought in you know,
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Speaker 3: de mere Bird, and then you brought in another, uh
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Speaker 3: a guy from the you know, usfl or whatever the
11:00
Speaker 3: case by b and I'm like, what is the.
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Speaker 2: Why are they trying out you know, Corey Davis?
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Speaker 3: And then you know, to see this, you know, this
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Speaker 3: news come out today, it was more like, you know,
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Speaker 3: like like I said, like, we can't even like we
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Speaker 3: can't even get our feet off the ground, you know
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Speaker 3: what I mean. Like, I'm so worried and anxious about
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Speaker 3: the offense, and then I got to worry about the
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Speaker 3: defense now too. That is one of the things that
11:18
Speaker 3: I didn't think I was gonna have to worry too
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Speaker 3: much about. So it'll be interesting to see how the
11:21
Speaker 3: Bills adjust to this. Again, they are in Pittsburgh. Excuse
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Speaker 3: me for the joint practices. They had them at Extra
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Speaker 3: Shure Stadium there in Pittsburgh today. I hadn't heard too
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Speaker 3: much about some of the standouts. I know it was
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Speaker 3: close to the media DT, but what's your thought on
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Speaker 3: the joint practices. I saw that Terrell Bernard was getting
11:40
Speaker 3: attended to today. I saw that it was another guy that
11:44
Speaker 3: was getting attended to today. Yeah, Norin Williams itself. But
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Speaker 3: I think he came back to practice and I'm just like,
11:49
Speaker 3: you know, I saw on Twitter people are like, can
11:50
Speaker 3: we just stop with this practice?
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Speaker 2: Shit? Can we just be done?
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Speaker 3: And I really felt that sentiment because like I just
11:55
Speaker 3: wanted to wave the white flag and like, Okay, that's
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Speaker 3: enough for today, Like we don't need any more work.
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Speaker 2: See you guys Sturday night. It's just it's crazy. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well it's the thing about why everyone you know, over
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Speaker 1: the past couple of years about preseason and starters aren't
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Speaker 1: even playing in preseason and some teams and you know,
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Speaker 1: and and should we get rid of the preseason as
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Speaker 1: a whole and kind of replace him with more of
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Speaker 1: these joint practices to get you know, to get reps
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Speaker 1: and to get live action against guys who you don't
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Speaker 1: see every day and know the intricacies of. But I
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Speaker 1: think it's good. I mean, this is a place where
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Speaker 1: you know, Josh Allen and all these starters are not
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Speaker 1: gonna yeah, they might play a little Saturday, but it's
12:33
Speaker 1: gonna be real real bs, you know, just get off,
12:37
Speaker 1: like just know what it feels like to be in
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Speaker 1: a game. This gives you actual competition, you know, So
12:41
Speaker 1: I like that. This is like straight up one on ones,
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Speaker 1: bang bang hitting guys you're not you know that aren't
12:47
Speaker 1: your teammates. You maybe give them a little extra pop
12:50
Speaker 1: and and you know, and and you want to beat them,
12:52
Speaker 1: right and not saying the offense doesn't want to be
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Speaker 1: the defense and vice versa every day in your own practices.
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Speaker 1: But this is like we this is another squad that
12:59
Speaker 1: we could contend to get, you know, to on our
13:02
Speaker 1: on our goal to Lombardi, we might have to see
13:04
Speaker 1: some time, and we want to beat them. So then
13:06
Speaker 1: we want to prove we're the elephants. We want to
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Speaker 1: approve for the of the NFL team. So I like it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we we've had one. We we did one
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Speaker 1: in Carolina, what three four years ago, and then now
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Speaker 1: we did this one. So we aren't as frequent as
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Speaker 1: some other teams. I don't know if they're statistics of
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Speaker 1: you know, more injuries or not, but I mean it
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Speaker 1: seems like guys are dropping it Malona their device, that
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Speaker 1: tackling a tackling a dummy bag. That's anybody the other team.
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Speaker 1: It's another team. It's it's equipment. So around the league too,
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Speaker 1: and obviously you know we got some award win the
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Speaker 1: listeners uh on here with the page and Kay are
13:40
Speaker 1: Vikings fans, you know, and they had a hell of
13:44
Speaker 1: a week this week with JJ McCarthy Jordan horrible off
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Speaker 1: season with the you know, their drafted dying there their
13:52
Speaker 1: uh their other cornerback in the r c L. So
13:55
Speaker 1: there's a ton of situations all the way around the league.
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Speaker 1: And and that's what we always talk about at the
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Speaker 1: end of the year. You know, who stays that's got
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Speaker 1: the best chance to make up And I mean ship
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Speaker 1: Rob last year, we're going up against Mahomes and Andy Reid,
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Speaker 1: the best offensive mind maybe quarterback we'll ever see with
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Speaker 1: a J Klein Edward middle linbacker, you know. So it's yeah,
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Speaker 1: health this is a key. It is not blaming it
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Speaker 1: on joint practices or anything like that yet, but it's
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Speaker 1: starting to really ruin years and ruin franchises with year
14:28
Speaker 1: after year of situations happening like this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's interesting that you say that because I
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Speaker 3: know a lot of the sense of it on Twitter
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Speaker 3: today was just you know, we're cursed and you know,
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Speaker 3: who had who's had a worse off season us or
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Speaker 3: the Vikings and stuff like that. And then again people
14:42
Speaker 3: you know, questioning the strength staff and stuff like that,
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Speaker 3: and like, you know, I don't, I don't really, you know,
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Speaker 3: put too much credence into it, like I said, because
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Speaker 3: injuries are so prevalent throughout the league.
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Speaker 2: It's listen, it's a violent sport.
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Speaker 3: It's not a sport that the human would Doug Whaley
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Speaker 3: wants say the human body is not meant to play football.
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Speaker 3: Everybody gave him ship for it, but he was telling
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Speaker 3: the truth, you know what I mean. I'm I'm very
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Speaker 3: keen on that. So you know, injuries are going to
15:03
Speaker 3: be a part of the game. Now for Milano, you know,
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Speaker 3: it does seem to be some of what of a trend.
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Speaker 3: You're right about his leg snapping, but you know, I
15:09
Speaker 3: went back today on football Pro Football Reference, and you know,
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Speaker 3: he hasn't.
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Speaker 2: Had really, you know, a lot of full seasons.
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Speaker 3: And I understand what you're talking about there, but you know,
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Speaker 3: I know that Dorian Williams is a start. But I
15:21
Speaker 3: really do think that there's a there's an opportunity here
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Speaker 3: where maybe Brandon Bean wants to start to think about
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Speaker 3: a long term replacement for him, if you know, Terrey
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Speaker 3: Bernard continues to make that ascent because obviously he made
15:32
Speaker 3: up for you know, the loss of Tremaine Evans, which
15:33
Speaker 3: is why you're wrong. Noah, we love you, but we
15:35
Speaker 3: didn't need to give Tremaine in that bag. And it
15:37
Speaker 3: was fine and and you know, and Toro Bernard proved
15:40
Speaker 3: that it was fine. Now it might be a situation
15:43
Speaker 3: where before we transition DT, where we you know, Brandon,
15:46
Speaker 3: he might want to think about his replacement next year.
15:48
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about higher draft pick. Somebody on Twitter said, well,
15:50
Speaker 3: we drafted his replacement. That's Dorian Williams.
15:52
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, that's not his replacement, you know what
15:54
Speaker 2: I mean.
15:54
Speaker 3: So I'm looking for maybe Brandon Bean, you know, to
15:58
Speaker 3: maybe either either free agency or the draft seriously consider
16:02
Speaker 3: about having something as a contingency plan, because it just
16:05
Speaker 3: seems like this is a it's this is kind of
16:07
Speaker 3: just like a thing for four fifty eight right now,
16:10
Speaker 3: this is this is one of his things. He's gonna
16:11
Speaker 3: miss some games every year for something. And that's and
16:15
Speaker 3: again that's from the leg aside. Even before that, he
16:17
Speaker 3: was missing games for something almost every year.
16:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're talking, is he's gonna be thirty one
16:23
Speaker 1: next year? You have a thirty year We won't know
16:25
Speaker 1: if we're even gonna see him this year at.
16:27
Speaker 2: All, right, and then third highest cap hit on the team.
16:31
Speaker 1: I mean, and you might it's last year of the contract,
16:34
Speaker 1: all guaranteed, So you can't even release him, not that
16:37
Speaker 1: we were, but to release them a free upsom cap space.
16:39
Speaker 1: You can't even do that because it's a huge cap hit.
16:41
Speaker 1: So you're stuck at least this year. We can only hope,
16:44
Speaker 1: you know that the glass half full of if he
16:47
Speaker 1: is kind of knowing for injury, if he does come back,
16:51
Speaker 1: hopefully she turns back in the playoff push, right, he
16:53
Speaker 1: comes back towards the end of the year. We're making
16:54
Speaker 1: that push right at the perfect time, and we get
16:57
Speaker 1: we get him well rested and ready to ready to
16:59
Speaker 1: go because you know another again, we're not doctors or anything,
17:05
Speaker 1: but once alike, heels like he's gonna be able to
17:08
Speaker 1: get out and get moving, right. He can. He can
17:10
Speaker 1: run through reads and take steps and make things happen.
17:13
Speaker 1: But you know, he's just not gonna be able to
17:15
Speaker 1: hit and stuff till that's this gets this gets better.
17:17
Speaker 1: So I think maybe that recovery hopefully is quicker. He's
17:20
Speaker 1: back at the end of the year, as opposed to
17:22
Speaker 1: you know, kind of going with what what might be
17:25
Speaker 1: probability he starts this year, we ramp him up. Week five,
17:29
Speaker 1: six comes, he tears his bicep ben er whatever, right, right,
17:32
Speaker 1: and man, we lost Mavlano again, right right, So now
17:35
Speaker 1: we might have him at the end of the year.
17:37
Speaker 1: What we kind of hope for von Miller last year, right,
17:39
Speaker 1: that never panned out. Maybe we can you know, flip
17:42
Speaker 1: the colling and get that the fifty eighth this year.
17:44
Speaker 1: But I agree, I mean, we got to start looking
17:46
Speaker 1: at a replacement. I mean, hopefully Dorian Willion steps in
17:48
Speaker 1: and kind of fills a void that we need him
17:50
Speaker 1: to and that kind of takes the burden off that
17:52
Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, it's not a long term
17:55
Speaker 1: option that you can't rely on. Fifty eight pass this year.
17:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's last year. It's sad to say.
18:01
Speaker 3: I mean, and I and im as a player, you
18:03
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I was so happy when he
18:04
Speaker 3: came back. I was very surprised when he came back.
18:06
Speaker 3: I know that it seemed like he was getting ready
18:08
Speaker 3: to test free agency, and then he posted that you know,
18:10
Speaker 3: Wolf on Wall Street video with DiCaprio and like that's
18:12
Speaker 3: I love that movie. And I was like, yes, you
18:15
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I was so happy that
18:16
Speaker 3: he came back. But it just seems like it's a trend.
18:18
Speaker 1: Now.
18:18
Speaker 3: Again, we can't forecast injuries, and neither can the GM
18:22
Speaker 3: or the coaches, so we understand that how that works,
18:24
Speaker 3: which is again why I don't really give too much
18:26
Speaker 3: credits to people that want to take shots at the
18:29
Speaker 3: Bills training staff.
18:30
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's the case.
18:31
Speaker 3: I know our buddy Seth Brown said that, you know,
18:33
Speaker 3: there's been some key injuries and he's looking at the
18:35
Speaker 3: trading staff. But you know you're a bodybuilder, Seth, So
18:38
Speaker 3: I mean I understand how you could you could look
18:40
Speaker 3: at it. I just I just think that it's just
18:41
Speaker 3: sometimes it's random and sometimes it's just bad luck.
18:44
Speaker 2: So as we transition.
18:47
Speaker 3: You know, DT, It's funny because last night what we
18:49
Speaker 3: had wanted to talk about was, you know the fact
18:51
Speaker 3: that the Bills brought in Corey Davis, and one of
18:53
Speaker 3: my main things when I was poking fun at that
18:55
Speaker 3: was just that I was like, damn, we're a couple
18:58
Speaker 3: weeks away from the season and it seems like the
19:00
Speaker 3: Bills are still searching for something. And it was funny
19:03
Speaker 3: because I was, you know, I was trying to figure
19:05
Speaker 3: out and pick your brain, and I was like, this
19:07
Speaker 3: can't be the impetus of this. Cannot just be the
19:10
Speaker 3: Chase Claypool injury. And I refuse to believe that because
19:13
Speaker 3: Claypool was like a long shot anyway, you know what
19:16
Speaker 3: I mean, And we were wondering if he was even
19:17
Speaker 3: going to be on the team.
19:18
Speaker 2: So the four are are locked in.
19:21
Speaker 3: You've got you know, Samuel Shakir Coleman, and then they
19:25
Speaker 3: love Matt Collins for his special teams working and some
19:28
Speaker 3: of the vibes that he brings into the locker room
19:29
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So if those four are your locks,
19:32
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out what are they still looking for?
19:34
Speaker 3: Because MVS they knew that he dropped passes before they
19:38
Speaker 3: signed him.
19:38
Speaker 2: So last week in that.
19:40
Speaker 3: Preseason game, it shouldn't have been a surprise against the
19:42
Speaker 3: Bears that he dropped the ball. You played against him
19:44
Speaker 3: dropping the balls, and then obviously you played against them
19:47
Speaker 3: you know in the playoffs when he came up clutch,
19:48
Speaker 3: and I understand that there's a little bit of irony
19:50
Speaker 3: within that because in the playoffs he did catch the ball.
19:52
Speaker 3: But like we know his awards, you know, Tyro Shavers,
19:56
Speaker 3: you know Camp Camp hero this year seems to be.
19:59
Speaker 2: Playing well, but he out of nowhere, justin Shorter again.
20:02
Speaker 3: You know, a guy with all the measurables, and he's
20:05
Speaker 3: the bus team that we talk about. Get off the
20:06
Speaker 3: bus and he's you know, he's like Greg Russo. He
20:08
Speaker 3: looks like he plays football, but he doesn't do shit
20:10
Speaker 3: on the field when it's time and the lights are on.
20:12
Speaker 3: So I was like, man, the thing that struck me
20:15
Speaker 3: dt was that we are very close to the season
20:17
Speaker 3: and it's clear to me that Brandon Bean or the
20:19
Speaker 3: coaching staff, whether it be Joe Brady, they are still
20:22
Speaker 3: looking for something at the wide receiver position, and that
20:24
Speaker 3: that has it just makes me nervous, that's all. It
20:27
Speaker 3: makes me nervous this close to the season that they
20:28
Speaker 3: still don't think that they've got it figured out. Whatever
20:31
Speaker 3: everybody eats or whatever the case may be, there's you know,
20:34
Speaker 3: their slogan. It just seems like they're still searching for something.
20:37
Speaker 3: If you're you're chasing after a guy again, they may
20:39
Speaker 3: not sign him, but a guy that was retired out
20:41
Speaker 3: of the league, you bring him in for workout.
20:42
Speaker 2: What does that really saying to the fan base?
20:45
Speaker 1: Exactly? And I mean I got to backtrack a little
20:48
Speaker 1: in the City Crew and Rob because you know, when
20:51
Speaker 1: this all went down with fourteen, you know, in the
20:53
Speaker 1: offseason and and you know, you were hot, and I
20:56
Speaker 1: tried to I was a voice of reason and we
20:58
Speaker 1: talk it down. I said, Brandon Bean's got a plan.
21:00
Speaker 1: He wouldn't waste Josh a year, Josh Allen's career.
21:03
Speaker 2: He wouldn't do it right.
21:05
Speaker 1: But you know, we have to be And the plan
21:07
Speaker 1: was we're going to get somebody, and we didn't get somebody.
21:09
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna go high in the draft, and
21:11
Speaker 1: we didn't do that. You know, obviously they're they're hoping
21:13
Speaker 1: Key and Coleman will result into a you know, prime
21:16
Speaker 1: time player in the league. But you got to be determined.
21:20
Speaker 1: Then afterwards, free agents everywhere didn't get him. Brandon Hayuk
21:24
Speaker 1: has been talked about getting traded to every team in
21:26
Speaker 1: the freaking NFL Rock except the bills, like there's a
21:29
Speaker 1: report every day he's going somewhere except Buffalo, you know,
21:34
Speaker 1: or anything. But like the plan I was, I died
21:37
Speaker 1: on the hill of there's there's a plan. There's an
21:40
Speaker 1: ace in to sleep. There's something Brandon Bean's got cooking
21:43
Speaker 1: to be able to make this move and make happen.
21:44
Speaker 1: And as we've kind of progressed three weeks away from
21:48
Speaker 1: the season, like you said, it seems like it was
21:50
Speaker 1: just kind of reset, we'll get the best we can
21:53
Speaker 1: see what happens type of deal. And that isn't what
21:56
Speaker 1: you want to hear. And when you have Josh Allen
21:58
Speaker 1: at quarterback, when you've been to multip divisional games year
22:01
Speaker 1: and year out, inches away from super Bowls, whatever you
22:04
Speaker 1: have it, you don't just we'll see what happens with
22:07
Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in the world.
22:08
Speaker 2: We'll ever see.
22:10
Speaker 1: But I mean, like you said, the top, the top
22:12
Speaker 1: players are locked in, and you look back at the
22:15
Speaker 1: previous years, the top players are the ones that play
22:17
Speaker 1: last year on the back end of that receiving roster.
22:20
Speaker 1: Deontay Hardy and you know Trent Sherfield or you know
22:25
Speaker 1: the two catches that only some catches I remember the
22:28
Speaker 1: punt return in week seventeen or that he took.
22:30
Speaker 2: To the house and and then of Miami right.
22:32
Speaker 1: Touch style that he didn't even catch them all, he
22:34
Speaker 1: just call up the deflection. So you know, so the
22:38
Speaker 1: top two things an entire year the back end of
22:40
Speaker 1: that roster gave us. So that also brings me to, yes,
22:43
Speaker 1: I don't love that they're bringing Corey Davis. I don't
22:45
Speaker 1: think that. I think that might be something like, hey,
22:48
Speaker 1: I'm getting back into playing, let's see what you got
22:51
Speaker 1: if he's if it's still nice, you know, maybe well
22:53
Speaker 1: we'll take the chance before other people kind of catch
22:55
Speaker 1: wind of it. Right, But I so, yes, I kind
22:59
Speaker 1: of get off where I died on the hill or
23:02
Speaker 1: in the off season where there was some big plan,
23:03
Speaker 1: because there isn't. It is what it is. The hodgepodge
23:08
Speaker 1: is what we got. Well, also, not look too deep
23:10
Speaker 1: into the back end of this receiver room, because in
23:13
Speaker 1: previous years it's shown that it doesn't matter.
23:15
Speaker 3: No, No, that's a great point, and you're right about that.
23:18
Speaker 3: We are talking about the back end guys and guys
23:20
Speaker 3: that probably won't factor in. It just kind of adds
23:22
Speaker 3: to that moniker that you know, like I said that
23:24
Speaker 3: everybody eats and you know what I mean, it's a
23:26
Speaker 3: whole bunch of B minuses and c's are going to
23:28
Speaker 3: equal an A, and I just I just don't buy it.
23:30
Speaker 3: I haven't bought it, and so it'll be it be
23:33
Speaker 3: interesting to see how it all plays out.
23:35
Speaker 2: That's all. They seem to be still searching for something.
23:37
Speaker 2: Clearly some speed.
23:38
Speaker 3: I know that they would like that, but I thought
23:39
Speaker 3: they've got Andy's developed, They've got kJ Hamler, They've got
23:42
Speaker 3: guys with speed, So you know, maybe they just don't
23:45
Speaker 3: like the guys that they have, so they're still searching.
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24:20
Speaker 2: Wrap up pretty soon.
24:21
Speaker 3: I know this is a little bit of a shorter
24:22
Speaker 3: episode tonight, but you know it's funny and we we again,
24:25
Speaker 3: we appreciate everybody's watching it over for five hundred people
24:28
Speaker 3: DT watching them all different platforms, So we appreciate it
24:31
Speaker 3: tonight on a on a Somber Thursday, I mean, this
24:34
Speaker 3: is this. I just did not expect this news today obviously.
24:38
Speaker 3: I mean, but if I think, if we're being honest
24:40
Speaker 3: with ourself, we you know, we probably knew on Monday
24:43
Speaker 3: or whatever, Tuesday whatever, it was like, this ship is
24:45
Speaker 3: probably not gonna be great, but we were I was
24:47
Speaker 3: just hoping that he was like a strain or something,
24:50
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like an aggravation of something,
24:52
Speaker 3: and like he would just Okay, he's gonna be out,
24:54
Speaker 3: but he'll be back.
24:55
Speaker 2: For the regular season.
24:56
Speaker 3: But to hear he tore Peck, I mean tore the bicep,
24:58
Speaker 3: I was like, shit, I just expected to hear this ship.
25:01
Speaker 1: And McDermott didn't, like, didn't tell the team, did you
25:04
Speaker 1: see that no what the team. He announced it, you know,
25:07
Speaker 1: in the pressice the media for practice, and then they're
25:10
Speaker 1: interviewing Dion Dawkins after practice and they're like, what do
25:13
Speaker 1: you think about Matt milanoll being on most of the
25:15
Speaker 1: season And he's like what.
25:17
Speaker 2: Oh for really, I didn't know that.
25:18
Speaker 1: He's like, are you serious and they're like yeah.
25:20
Speaker 3: He's like, damn, oh no, I was working today. I
25:24
Speaker 3: didn't watch any of the press conference. It's okay, wow, yeah,
25:27
Speaker 3: that's crazy.
25:28
Speaker 2: I don't know, man. You know Mcdermot's funny that they like.
25:31
Speaker 1: Found this morning and they were like, we got it,
25:33
Speaker 1: you know, we got to bring it up. But yeah,
25:36
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I've been fighting all day, group cast fighting
25:39
Speaker 1: all day. Man.
25:41
Speaker 3: Twitter has just been more just everybody's angry and everybody's
25:45
Speaker 3: sad and they wish, they wish that, you know, that
25:46
Speaker 3: this didn't happen to him. And then again there's like
25:48
Speaker 3: I said, there's a there's a section that is trying
25:50
Speaker 3: to point to something with you know, the strength and
25:53
Speaker 3: conditioning staff under McDermott, and like I said, I had
25:55
Speaker 3: to shoot that down. It wasn't even the me defending McDermott.
25:58
Speaker 3: It was just I have to offend this injury. It's
26:01
Speaker 3: it's it's freaking football. People are gonna get hurt, and
26:04
Speaker 3: they you do, get hurt all the time, and I
26:06
Speaker 3: just wanted to remind people, let's not, you know, forget
26:08
Speaker 3: that we were unbelievably healthy to start his tenure. Now
26:12
Speaker 3: as we transition, DT and I are going to play
26:13
Speaker 3: a little game tonight to wrap up tonight's show.
26:16
Speaker 2: Please on the comment line, help us out if you can.
26:19
Speaker 3: We are going to try to pick the NCC the
26:22
Speaker 3: Nickel City Crew fifty three, and we're gonna need some help, yeah,
26:26
Speaker 3: the nc got We need some help from the from
26:29
Speaker 3: the from Noah and and everybody that's around on the
26:32
Speaker 3: text line. So listen, we'll go by position by position,
26:36
Speaker 3: and you've got yours up, I've got mine up, DT,
26:38
Speaker 3: And what I want to do is try to just
26:39
Speaker 3: figure out a way to figure out who's on this
26:41
Speaker 3: damn team. And you know, it's funny because before this
26:45
Speaker 3: Melano injury, you know, I never even would have thought.
26:47
Speaker 2: About that, but now you probably got to go a
26:49
Speaker 2: little bit of b.
26:50
Speaker 3: Fere on the linebackers and stuff like that to maybe
26:52
Speaker 3: help out with you know, some of the guys that
26:54
Speaker 3: are not going to be necessarily main players, but just
26:57
Speaker 3: in case, you know, break glass, in case of an
26:59
Speaker 3: emergency type guys. So we'll go over it and we'll
27:01
Speaker 3: try to see what we can't do for the actual roster. Now,
27:05
Speaker 3: quarterback seems pretty much cut and dry, DT, so qbs,
27:09
Speaker 3: we've got too right.
27:10
Speaker 2: I only see him taking two to camp.
27:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, excuse me, two to the season on the fifty
27:14
Speaker 3: three with Josh and then Mitchell Trubisky, who looked horrible. Uh,
27:18
Speaker 3: the other guy looked horrible in that preseason game. I
27:20
Speaker 3: know that we didn't recap the preseason game. There was
27:23
Speaker 3: really nothing to really recap. Kayla Williams looked like he's
27:26
Speaker 3: gonna be a problem in the league. There is no schemes.
27:29
Speaker 3: Everything's vanilla, and everybody loves to tell you that. And
27:31
Speaker 3: I really can't just get too worked up over the
27:34
Speaker 3: backups getting their asses beat at the end of the game.
27:36
Speaker 2: I just I just don't have really much capacity for it.
27:39
Speaker 3: Man, it's a preseason any thoughts before we go to
27:41
Speaker 3: this fifty three roster breakdown? DT on that preseason I
27:44
Speaker 3: just don't have any effort, man, I don't have it
27:47
Speaker 3: what's Belichickburgh, We're on the fixer. All right, quarterbacks, So
27:52
Speaker 3: Josh Allen mitch Risky. That takes two running backs DT.
27:55
Speaker 3: It's an interesting position because I've been watching it and
27:59
Speaker 3: I like Ty Johnson.
28:00
Speaker 2: That's me personally. I like him a lot.
28:01
Speaker 3: I like his speed, I like the shiftingness, and I
28:03
Speaker 3: like what he brought last year.
28:05
Speaker 2: I'm wondering. I'm wondering what you think about.
28:09
Speaker 3: The backups because I don't see much beyond you know, Jimbo,
28:14
Speaker 3: you know, Ray Davis, and then and then Todd Johnson. Now,
28:17
Speaker 3: I don't know if they want to keep a fourth
28:19
Speaker 3: back or if they'll count Reggie you know, Gilliam as
28:21
Speaker 3: their fourth back.
28:22
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we're going to be beating up in
28:28
Speaker 1: other areas of the roster. Let's stick with the three Johnson, Davis, Jimbo.
28:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that. I like that as well.
28:36
Speaker 2: So all right, so we're at five? Do we like?
28:39
Speaker 2: We like? We?
28:40
Speaker 1: Uh?
28:40
Speaker 2: What's it calls? Got a spot though as well? Right?
28:43
Speaker 1: Reggie?
28:43
Speaker 2: Yep, Gillium's got a spot. Okay.
28:47
Speaker 1: I really I really feel bad because I don't really
28:50
Speaker 1: like He's the last person I think about. I know,
28:51
Speaker 1: he's good. I know he plays special teams, but like
28:54
Speaker 1: I don't really notice him at all, like so like
28:57
Speaker 1: it's tough for me to like I just kind of
28:58
Speaker 1: go with the crowd on that, right, like, oh yeah, Gillian,
29:02
Speaker 1: but like I don't really know on that.
29:04
Speaker 2: So, well, he's good. He's good on special teams.
29:08
Speaker 3: So let's let's give him that, all right, So he's
29:11
Speaker 3: good on special teams. So we've got Todd Johnson, Ray Davis,
29:14
Speaker 3: and then Jimbo, Big Jimbo coming in for the running
29:17
Speaker 3: backs now wide receivers.
29:18
Speaker 2: This is the big one that you know, I love
29:20
Speaker 2: to talk about.
29:20
Speaker 3: So let's let's figure out this clusterfuck that is everybody
29:24
Speaker 3: eats everybody, Hey, everybody eats. Everybody gives a grab a fork.
29:29
Speaker 3: We already talked about the four Shakir Coleman, Hollands, and
29:35
Speaker 3: then what's the Curtis Samuel Curtis Samuel?
29:38
Speaker 2: Do the bills carry five? Do they carry six?
29:42
Speaker 1: Five?
29:44
Speaker 2: Is that thin to you? Now? I just wanted to know,
29:46
Speaker 2: do you think that's thin? Okay?
29:49
Speaker 1: What did they do? Five?
29:52
Speaker 2: Yeah? No? Five? Yeah? Yeah?
29:58
Speaker 1: So that last spot, I mean we paid him DS
30:01
Speaker 1: some money.
30:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know. Not much, but they paid
30:04
Speaker 2: them money.
30:05
Speaker 1: kJ Hammler has been returning kicks. Yes, nobody else says really,
30:11
Speaker 1: other than the rookie from Penn State Hardy on the corner.
30:14
Speaker 1: Nobody else has been really returning kicks. So I think
30:17
Speaker 1: I think we got Samuel will have a We'll have
30:21
Speaker 1: a lot of carries at running back. So probably just
30:24
Speaker 1: three running back because maybe Curtis Samuel was that gadget
30:27
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel Junior, Curtis Samuel whatever, alright, you.
30:30
Speaker 2: Made, you made up for it for your bad take.
30:35
Speaker 1: So all right, so three. So where are we at.
30:37
Speaker 1: We're at six with quarterbacks, running backs and pullback. Then
30:41
Speaker 1: we got the four that brings us to ten. Let's
30:44
Speaker 1: let's do six receivers.
30:46
Speaker 2: I think I.
30:48
Speaker 1: Think gets in for the returning duties and that speeds
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Speaker 1: your guy. And then that fit, whoever it is, MV,
30:54
Speaker 1: Shavers Shorter.
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Speaker 3: I think you probably, I think you have to give
31:00
Speaker 3: it the Shavers either or either MVS or Shavers. I
31:03
Speaker 3: think it comes down to those two because you gave
31:06
Speaker 3: a little bit of money to m VS, but you
31:09
Speaker 3: know he's gonna drop the ball, and then Shavers. You know,
31:11
Speaker 3: it's almost a situation where you've got to keep him
31:13
Speaker 3: around because you know, or what the hell is the
31:16
Speaker 3: preseason worth or training?
31:17
Speaker 2: Kid? You know, if I'm going to ball out.
31:19
Speaker 3: In preseason and do and and do my job to
31:21
Speaker 3: the best of my ability and then I still can't
31:23
Speaker 3: make the team, then I sometimes.
31:25
Speaker 2: That makes it. I feel like it makes it.
31:27
Speaker 3: It sends a bad message to the group because like, listen,
31:29
Speaker 3: you could bust your ass, you can, you know, work
31:32
Speaker 3: work hard, and then we're still not going to give
31:33
Speaker 3: you a roster spot because we gave him, yes, a
31:35
Speaker 3: couple million bucks. So I think it's almost a situation
31:37
Speaker 3: where where McDermott might have to to give an opportunity
31:41
Speaker 3: to a guy like Shavers or or maybe they mixmatch
31:44
Speaker 3: them each other throughout the practice squad, because I think
31:46
Speaker 3: you can elevate guys and drop guys down almost throughout
31:49
Speaker 3: the season.
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Speaker 2: So we'll see. So how many how many up to
31:51
Speaker 2: now we're at.
31:52
Speaker 1: Twelve, right, twelve? Ten with the four and then two
31:55
Speaker 1: more with six or twelve.
31:56
Speaker 2: Twelve all right, tight ends.
31:59
Speaker 1: I think you gotta go three. With the injury history
32:02
Speaker 1: of Dawson Knox, Quinton Morris is a dog. I like three.
32:06
Speaker 1: Quinton Morris Cage.
32:08
Speaker 3: Try to try to stash Zack Davidson, the other camp
32:11
Speaker 3: hero on the on the practice squad.
32:12
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, he's making at I love it all right.
32:19
Speaker 3: Offensive line, they normally carry ten offensive linemen.
32:23
Speaker 2: Yep mm hmm.
32:24
Speaker 3: They normally carry like ten or nine offensive linemen. Right,
32:27
Speaker 3: So you got the starting five and then you need
32:29
Speaker 3: a backup center, you need a backup guard, or you
32:33
Speaker 3: need at least a backup tackle, and they'll probably have
32:35
Speaker 3: two backup tackles, right, So I would I would at
32:37
Speaker 3: least say that there's they're nine strong on the offensive line, right, Yeah, yeah, at.
32:42
Speaker 1: Least I'd like to see him. I'd like Vanfer and
32:44
Speaker 1: Granger to make it. I really would.
32:46
Speaker 2: I do like him, Yeah, I know, but just chevity purposes.
32:50
Speaker 1: If he can be a long term you know, formula
32:53
Speaker 1: for center for us. You know that's that's perfect, right,
32:56
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm hoping he gets in. Let's say, yeah,
32:58
Speaker 1: for numbers wise, we're gonna get on the other end
33:00
Speaker 1: of the ball. So let's go. Let's go nine. So
33:03
Speaker 1: what are we at?
33:09
Speaker 2: We went from.
33:11
Speaker 1: Twelve and then fifteen with tight ends, so nine are
33:14
Speaker 1: twenty four? All right?
33:16
Speaker 3: Twenty four. Is that good on offense? I think that
33:19
Speaker 3: covers offense a right defensive line. We've got the starting
33:24
Speaker 3: We've got Vaughn group, We've got Oliver Yeah, yeah, Oh,
33:32
Speaker 3: you're just going to do the first four.
33:34
Speaker 2: You know, Oliver day day.
33:37
Speaker 1: Day day. So that's that's your four. And then the
33:40
Speaker 1: back of that you got you have.
33:45
Speaker 2: Solomon yeah or no or no, I don't know.
33:49
Speaker 1: I think it's it's him or you know, two Hill
33:54
Speaker 1: or smooth one of those three.
33:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, doing smooth, right.
33:58
Speaker 1: I think six on the D line and is right
34:01
Speaker 1: now six before we get into the backup the interiors,
34:04
Speaker 1: right six with so that that last spot is smooth,
34:08
Speaker 1: two Hill or.
34:12
Speaker 3: Or Solomon, okay. And then we've got Dwayne Carter, Austin Johnson,
34:18
Speaker 3: Austin Johnson interior okay.
34:20
Speaker 2: And then that's pretty much it right for those guys.
34:24
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean maybe, I mean maybe I.
34:28
Speaker 3: Was gonna say maybe Kingsley Jonathan, but I don't I
34:30
Speaker 3: don't necessarily have to where I don't think Gables, Steve
34:33
Speaker 3: Steveson He's gonna make the team or anything like that.
34:35
Speaker 2: I think he's a practice squad guy.
34:36
Speaker 1: So yeah, we would have heard about him now if
34:39
Speaker 1: he was, you know, because that's been obviously headline news like,
34:42
Speaker 1: oh this guy has never played and he's gonna make
34:44
Speaker 1: like he's making plays and we haven't heard a peak
34:46
Speaker 1: since we signed him. So yeah, I don't think.
34:48
Speaker 3: He's in, all right, So where we're at now? So
34:51
Speaker 3: where are we at now? That makes us?
34:53
Speaker 1: That gives us what eight? That's eight, that's eight from
34:57
Speaker 1: twenty four.
34:59
Speaker 2: That's alright, thirty two we have eight.
35:01
Speaker 1: So yeah, thirty two d line taking.
35:03
Speaker 3: Care of all right, all right, d Lion's good linebackers,
35:07
Speaker 3: sore subject.
35:08
Speaker 2: We got a look at the roster.
35:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need some all right.
35:13
Speaker 3: We got Terrell Bernard and then and then Dorian Williams
35:18
Speaker 3: right now. And then I guess so like a guy
35:20
Speaker 3: like a a Nick morro is a lock now, you
35:23
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because you're gonna need him. You're
35:25
Speaker 3: gonna need him, even maybe a Bailey Specter yep, James,
35:29
Speaker 3: he's gonna be the lock now.
35:31
Speaker 2: And then maybe one more you know, like either Eddie.
35:35
Speaker 3: Futio or yeah, or I mean, I don't think the
35:39
Speaker 3: local kid from Lancaster Andrees is gonna make the team.
35:41
Speaker 2: So what about Oh yeah, Dean Jones from Atlanta. Yeah,
35:46
Speaker 2: I haven't heard much from him.
35:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, yeah, but you think they could carry four,
35:52
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, so you think but I think that
35:54
Speaker 3: they could carry four for sure, right, four or five?
35:57
Speaker 1: M let's say five, okay, because of the because of
36:01
Speaker 1: the injury.
36:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, five takes us to what Nichol City Crew.
36:06
Speaker 2: Where we're at now? I think we're always thirty two.
36:10
Speaker 1: We're thirty two, thirty seven.
36:13
Speaker 3: All right, So we got a couple more guys, uh,
36:16
Speaker 3: cornerbacks or defensive backs.
36:18
Speaker 2: We'll just we'll do all defensive backs. Yeah, so we've
36:21
Speaker 2: got on the mm hmmm.
36:24
Speaker 3: Benford, Benford mm hmm rap yeah.
36:31
Speaker 1: Uh, Damar Hamlin looks like he's he's on the squad.
36:35
Speaker 2: Yeah.
36:36
Speaker 3: Probably cam Lewis, we already say, yes, yes, okay, all right,
36:44
Speaker 3: Lewis is six. Uh they like Hardy, oh yeah, Johnson
36:50
Speaker 3: Aaron Johnson, Johnson.
36:51
Speaker 2: Is they like Hardy. Hardy might be doing kicks and.
36:55
Speaker 1: Return special team. So that's nine.
36:58
Speaker 3: Nine defensive backs okay, anybody else? Yeah, that's nine on
37:04
Speaker 3: on what on thirty seven?
37:07
Speaker 1: Cam Lewis that I already said, cam Lewis.
37:11
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, thirty eight Yeah.
37:13
Speaker 1: So we're at we're at forty forty seven?
37:15
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, can we steak I know they like to
37:19
Speaker 3: Corey Couch because I keep hearing about to Corey.
37:21
Speaker 2: Couch making play Couch. Yes, I was wondering about him.
37:24
Speaker 3: But but that that's like, that's a lot of that's
37:26
Speaker 3: a lot of defensive backs.
37:27
Speaker 2: Okay, but ten with safeties that may that may do it.
37:29
Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you where we where we went, then
37:32
Speaker 1: we'll get back to But then yeah, so then where
37:34
Speaker 1: that takes us to forty eight? Okay, re furguson, ferguson
37:41
Speaker 1: bass and whoever the hell's pumping?
37:43
Speaker 2: Yes, Martin is one, So.
37:46
Speaker 1: We got two more, two more spots to fill. I
37:48
Speaker 1: think that goes to defensive line.
37:50
Speaker 2: Ooh interesting, okay, and then I think rotational piece.
37:55
Speaker 3: And then I wouldn't be surprised if they try to
37:56
Speaker 3: sneak in another wide receiver, to be honest, you know,
38:00
Speaker 3: or somebody else, you know, somebody that does special teams
38:02
Speaker 3: along with with wide receiver. So okay, look at that
38:06
Speaker 3: the first NCC fifty three. We'll see how close we
38:09
Speaker 3: thought we'd be.
38:09
Speaker 1: That was surprising. I thought we'd be lower. I thought
38:12
Speaker 1: we'd be I mean I thought we'd be higher higher,
38:15
Speaker 1: ye coming in at like fifty eight and then have
38:17
Speaker 1: to cut them down. But man, I guess it is
38:19
Speaker 1: a little fan in some spots. So hey, we'll take that.
38:22
Speaker 2: We'll take that. Yeah, we'll take that. Man, that was fun.
38:26
Speaker 2: I like that. I enjoyed that. We appreciate everybody.
38:28
Speaker 3: Watching tonight and and and uh and being a part
38:30
Speaker 3: of the show as well. Know all the guys on
38:32
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38:35
Speaker 3: Over six hundred people watching DT and we we do
38:37
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38:40
Speaker 3: get ready to wrap up tonight. You know, it's been
38:42
Speaker 3: a tough day. Everybody needs to lick their wounds, everybody
38:45
Speaker 3: needs to.
38:45
Speaker 2: Kind of decompress. I'm getting ready to get over to
38:48
Speaker 2: Wing night.
38:48
Speaker 3: They're at Alice Bard and Girl here in Cornelia, North
38:51
Speaker 3: Carolina with the with the Kings. I'm gonna go there
38:53
Speaker 3: eats wings, watch some bad preseason football with I think
38:57
Speaker 3: it's the Patriots and.
39:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, Patriots.
39:04
Speaker 1: Patriots are the favorite.
39:06
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah.
39:07
Speaker 1: During their joint practice, one reporter said he'd uh the
39:11
Speaker 1: Patriots offense made him want to kill himself.
39:16
Speaker 2: That is yes, I heard that on WGR.
39:19
Speaker 1: Put on Evils, money line Underdogs.
39:22
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I love it.
39:23
Speaker 3: Look at DT's even got you covered from preseason betting tips.
39:28
Speaker 3: What what better way to close the show than that
39:30
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39:31
Speaker 2: I love it.
39:31
Speaker 3: Listen you guys out there, We really enjoy your support.
39:35
Speaker 3: We will be back next week. We promised you Josh
39:38
Speaker 3: Allen week. We are bringing you a Josh Allen week.
39:41
Speaker 3: Our special guest was busy tonight, so we had to
39:44
Speaker 3: switch things up. And again we got hit over the
39:46
Speaker 3: head anyway with the Matt Milano injury news. So it's
39:49
Speaker 3: all good. Next week, it's all about seventeen. We are
39:51
Speaker 3: going to dive into not so much Mama Monday in
39:55
Speaker 3: his head as much because we love doing that with
39:57
Speaker 3: Mama Monday, but just about the big, big, big, enormous
40:00
Speaker 3: weight that's on this man's shoulders. Coming into this year,
40:03
Speaker 3: there's a lot that has changed for Josh Allen. And
40:06
Speaker 3: you know, one of the things that we've talked about,
40:08
Speaker 3: and you even brought it up at the beginning of
40:09
Speaker 3: the show DT was one of my biggest arguments against
40:12
Speaker 3: everybody eats is that you know, you are shoveling one
40:15
Speaker 3: of his prime years right into a volcano, and I've
40:18
Speaker 3: just I'm not a part of that. And again, I
40:20
Speaker 3: don't know the future, so I don't know if that's
40:21
Speaker 3: necessarily going to be the case. That's been one of
40:23
Speaker 3: my main fears. But we are going to jump into
40:26
Speaker 3: Josh Allen. He is everybody's favorite topic. He is the
40:29
Speaker 3: leader of the Buffalo Bills, and it's really never been
40:33
Speaker 3: more important than this year to lead. He has got
40:35
Speaker 3: to take a step forward in that category.
40:38
Speaker 2: Again. We talked about Pagola a.
40:39
Speaker 3: Couple episodes, really kind of setting down an edict that
40:42
Speaker 3: he wants it to be more of an executive approach.
40:45
Speaker 1: D T.
40:45
Speaker 3: There is a lot to unpack with seventeen. He is
40:48
Speaker 3: he's got a lot of He's got a lot of
40:49
Speaker 3: shit on his plate, for sure. Man, His his plate's
40:52
Speaker 3: full of wings, for sure.
40:53
Speaker 1: That's a that's a good teaser right there, Rob for
40:56
Speaker 1: the listeners for next week. As I've said this one
40:59
Speaker 1: hundred times and I'll say it one hundred more, Josh
41:02
Speaker 1: can't wait for next week.
41:03
Speaker 2: Baby, I love it, I love it, I love it.
41:06
Speaker 3: Listen out there, yes, please, I don't think he's gonna play,
41:10
Speaker 3: so I think I think he's good. Uh, it doesn't
41:13
Speaker 3: seem like mcdermmy's gonna be that stupid. So listen, enjoy
41:15
Speaker 3: the game Saturday night again, the Bills in Pittsburgh, seven o'clock.
41:19
Speaker 3: I think NFL network is covering that game again, so
41:21
Speaker 3: we get lucky. Two weeks in a row at UFILD
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41:24
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41:26
Speaker 2: Be good out there, man, spread love not hate. These
41:29
Speaker 2: were my Bills thoughts, set out loud, hit him with
41:31
Speaker 2: a gold. Bill's DT got go Bills.
41:35
Speaker 1: Sason coming up that.
41:36
Speaker 2: Injury, but.
41:38
Speaker 1: That's all right. Win Saturday one and one. Go Bills.
41:42
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