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- 0:00Today on Steelers Country Weekly, we review the Steelers twenty twenty four draft class,
- 0:07and I think we're gonna have a lot to say about it. I'm
- 0:10Nick Detulo and as always, am joined by the world famous accountants Eric vanmon
- 0:14Shown. Eric. How's it going tonight? Ah? Pretty good rain and
- 0:19the cats dogs here Texas. Uh good for the grass, so I'm happy.
- 0:27Yeah, we had a little bit of rain over here in Atlanta a
- 0:30couple of days ago. That was pretty good. But I spent so much
- 0:34time in my yard a couple of weekends ago. I don't want any more
- 0:37rain. I want everything to die. I had to clear out so much
- 0:40dead things, and now the weeds are starting to come up. It's just
- 0:43it's too much. I don't want to go back into the yard anymore.
- 0:48I just want to turf. Crass man, if you want to, I'm
- 0:52sure you. Your kids be playing some tack there. Gotta start up grass.
- 1:02So I've only got grass in my front yard, and if I can
- 1:04cut that every week or two, I'm fine. You might appreciate this,
- 1:08though. The backyard is just dirt and then mulch wherever I want to put
- 1:14mulch down. And last summer, I actually went into home depot and saw
- 1:19that they were selling this big block or sheet of turf, like actual turf.
- 1:26So I had this brilliant idea. I cut it into strips and I've
- 1:30made it like a runner along the fence that divides my ard in my next
- 1:34door neighbor's yard. I've got three dogs. My next door neighbor has four
- 1:38dogs, and when they go outside, they bark and they run and it
- 1:42sounds like they hate each other, but I think it's just it's seven dogs
- 1:46barking at the same time. And I was like, man, this is
- 1:51perfect. It's going to cover up the dirt so that if it rains,
- 1:53I don't have to worry about muddy paws, and my dogs are going to
- 1:57be just flying down this turf. It's going to be like the greatest show
- 2:00on turf. They said they were so much faster because of that the ground
- 2:02and there's did not work out the way I wanted to. The dogs were
- 2:07running so hard and like I guess, just when they would stop to go
- 2:12the other direction, they'd stop with such force they just tore it right up.
- 2:16So that's my only experience with turf, and I think that's gonna be
- 2:21it. Well, you know, you win some, you lose. I
- 2:27I think the saying for me should be you win some, you lose a
- 2:30lot. But at least it's something. But we're not here to talk about
- 2:36the yard. That's another podcast. We'll get that go on some other day.
- 2:38We're here to talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers Draft. This was a in
- 2:46my opinion, great draft. I I love watching the draft. I mean,
- 2:52you'd think I wouldn't care as much anymore since we're like ten years older
- 2:57than a lot of these guys. But I just think it such a cool
- 3:00thing where you see that it's in different cities now, hundreds of thousands of
- 3:05people come out, fans from every team, and just the night, well
- 3:09really night one, but all three days of the draft. It's just a
- 3:15cool experience. So this year it was in Detroit. We had the traditional
- 3:21booze of Roder Goodell. He got his hugs two in the first round.
- 3:27It was a good night. And before we get into the Steelers class,
- 3:31we can talk through some of the top picks as well. Cale Williams number
- 3:38one pick. Overall, I think everyone knew that was going to happen,
- 3:40especially after the Steelers acquired justin Fields. But one of the things that I
- 3:46think helped the Steelers with their eventual first round selection is the fact that six
- 3:52quarterbacks came off the board in the first twelve picks. That's never happened before.
- 4:00But you know, and it was crazy as well. When those six
- 4:05of the twelve picks came off the board, some people were still on the
- 4:10board that probably shouldn't have been other teams who may have wanted a quarterback but
- 4:14didn't trade. We're like, well, I guess we missed the boat,
- 4:17because after those first six quarterbacks were taken, another one wasn't taken until Spencer
- 4:24Rattler in the first round or in the fifth round. Rather so, kind
- 4:28of like the year the Steelers took Kenny Pickett, where there was a long
- 4:31gap between quarterbacks, this time was a little bit more exaggerated. But I
- 4:38mean, like we said, it seemed to play out for the Steelers.
- 4:42But before we dive into the Steelers first round pick, did you have any
- 4:46thoughts overall about the first round, the first evening and how things played out.
- 4:50Well, those over pretty I want to say boring. You know,
- 4:58there weren't a mat I made trades. I felt like in other years,
- 5:03there's quite a bit of like moving around the board. I felt like a
- 5:06lot of teams kind of held their spots. If I'm a Falcons fan,
- 5:13I'm like, what what is going on? I I mean, I understand,
- 5:19like you got Kirk, you got Kurt last year, but spend the
- 5:26first rounder on a guy who's on the three history and an older prospect is
- 5:32like twenty four right now to sit behind your other older quarterback that has injuries.
- 5:41I mean it sounds like good planning. That is the most interesting pick
- 5:48in the draft. And I don't think it's really even close. And I
- 5:53don't think that anyone is looking at that pick in itself and saying that Michael
- 5:59Pennox is nest necessarily a bad pick. It's just why would you do both
- 6:02things? Why would you sign Kirk Cousins and then draft Michael Pennix. One
- 6:09of the reasonings that the GM gave was like, it's a good problem to
- 6:15have if he sits for four or five years and learns, because that means
- 6:20that Kirk is playing really well. The problem with that, though, is,
- 6:26let's assume that Kirk Cousins plays really well for four years, even though
- 6:30I think he's only on a two year deal. Then you're gonna have to
- 6:32either you're gonna have to give Pennix his fifth year option with having no real
- 6:39experience, and like you said, he's already twenty four, he's gonna be
- 6:43twenty eight or twenty nine whenever that comes. That's it's nuts. And when
- 6:49the GM is on video having to explain to the owner like, hey,
- 6:53this is why we're doing it, or this is what's what we're thinking,
- 6:58it's just not a good look. And if I'm either Michael Pennox or Kirk
- 7:04Cousins, I'm not really thrilled with the situation either. If I'm Kirk Cousins,
- 7:09it's not so much the competition that I would be worried about that Michael
- 7:13Pennox brings in. It's that I signed with this team, you had the
- 7:16number eight pick overall, and you didn't do anything to help us right now,
- 7:20like what are we doing here? And it's yeah, I mean,
- 7:25it kind of reminds me of like the Jordan Love pick when Aaron Rodgers is
- 7:30winning an MVP award, and at least with that one they that was later
- 7:39in the first round, but you have a hot tenth pick, like you're
- 7:45supecially like be pushing these chips towards the middle of the table, making a
- 7:49guy's red shirt for his collegiate career. But that's a good point though.
- 7:54The other thing with Jordan Love is I think they trade it up to get
- 7:58him too, which is enough wasted asset and I don't want to say wasted.
- 8:01They used assets to get to him. And while Love did have a
- 8:07good year this past year, how close were the Packers the last three or
- 8:13four years that Aaron Rodgers were there where they They were right there. They
- 8:18just couldn't get over the edge, you know what I mean. So I
- 8:24think there's something to be said for playing for the present versus playing for the
- 8:28future. And I don't know. If Jordan Love goes on and gets a
- 8:33Super Bowl or two, then maybe we'll say it was worth it. But
- 8:37when I look back at that, I'm like, Okay, well, you
- 8:39were right there. If you had just done one or two more things,
- 8:43maybe gotten one or two different players, like a wide receiver for example,
- 8:46to go with DeVante Adams, you could have maybe gotten over the hurdle there,
- 8:52because they came close many times in the playoffs. They just couldn't get
- 8:56over the finish line. Yeah. I mean if you think of like the
- 9:00other like people that have won recently, what got them over the hump is
- 9:05they saw this issue and they went out in the dress. So examples of
- 9:11that are Rams obviously went out and got a quarterback. Billy went out.
- 9:18I know they didn't win, but to get to the Super Bowl went out
- 9:20got their wide receivers. They got a J. Brown. The Chiefs have
- 9:26gone out and addressed their offensive line through either like Orlando Brown trade or massive
- 9:33signing stuff like that. So like people, you got me aggressive when you're
- 9:39in that window. So I don't know, weird, but I know we're
- 9:45not a Falcons team podcast. Man oh man, I mean there'd be a
- 9:50lot to the back there. Yeah. If we were a Falcons podcast,
- 9:56we could spend the whole night talking about just that pick. Yeah. But
- 10:01let's get to the Steelers. At pick number twenty, the Steelers took Troy
- 10:05Faltano, tackle out of Washington. So when we were doing our mock draft,
- 10:11I had the Steelers taking Amarus Mims and he ended up going to the
- 10:15Bengals. Earlier, I think they were picked seventeen. When I mentioned all
- 10:22these quarterbacks going off the board. The reason that helped the Steelers is because
- 10:26six quarterbacks going in the top twelve picks leaves a lot of other prospects that
- 10:31were probably little higher ranked on the board for the Steelers to take. So
- 10:37I think Troy Faltano is actually a pretty highly ranked tackle among the top and
- 10:41I think he might have been ranked higher than Amarius Mims. So when we
- 10:45were doing our mock draft, I was just looking at the player values and
- 10:48I thought Mims would be the one to fall to the Steelers. Not sure
- 10:54really why the Bengals took him instead of Faltano, but I'm not going to
- 10:58complain. Based on what I've seen. He's one of the top tackles in
- 11:03the draft, one of the top tackles from the I guess now defunct Pac
- 11:07twelve or Pack ten whatever, Pack two, whatever we're calling it. But
- 11:16this, like we mentioned before, was a clear sign of what the Steelers
- 11:22valued because they could have gone elsewhere. They could have gone other positions,
- 11:24They could have taken a center even and eventually they did, but at least
- 11:28in this first round, they saw the tackle that they really liked. On
- 11:33the board and that's where Omar Khan decided to pull the trigger. Yeah,
- 11:37I mean, yeah, we'll go through it. Obviously there was a trend
- 11:41in this draft, but you know, I I'm happy with it. Yeah.
- 11:48There were a lot of people that said, is he big enough to
- 11:52be? Uh tackle? I guess you know, he's not as tile as
- 11:58typical tackles are, which I think Tomlin made a joke because I guess he's
- 12:05sixty three and like seven quarters or something or seventh and they said, I'll
- 12:11give you another quarter in jro, give you whatever it would be for him
- 12:15to be a tackle basically for splitting hairs. Here, this dude's talented and
- 12:20he's gonna be a tackle regardless something. He's gonna be a great player.
- 12:30He was the best player on the on the team won the award for the
- 12:35best offensive line in college football. I feel like that means something. So
- 12:43yeah, you know, he's a leader. He's the guy who who's play
- 12:48stood out. I'm a big fan of investing in the offensive line, so
- 12:54uh, definitely kudos on the pick. And you know, I think last
- 13:01year we went with like the with the guy that has maybe the athletic build
- 13:07and like, you know, we'll have to refine it a little bit.
- 13:11And this guy seems more of a tactician. He already kind of has that
- 13:15going on, and maybe there athletic skill isn't there as much, you know,
- 13:22though he is lengthy, So I like the good mixture of him.
- 13:26You know, it's kind of like you got you got kind of covering your
- 13:33bases a little bit, because I feel like sometimes people are just like just
- 13:37always are just like shooting for the moon on some of the stuff. And
- 13:41and I honestly think that that's kind of like what Mims will be with the
- 13:46Bengals. Like dude six eight runs like a four to seven. But like,
- 13:52I don't know, is he played like eight games in college? So
- 13:58is he to be good? I don't know. So uh supposedly took himself
- 14:05out of the game. I liked by the way I brought that. Bring
- 14:09this up because Nick Saban brought up in his analysis. Nick Saban was fantastic.
- 14:16I love to listen Nick Saban in his analysis on the draft picks.
- 14:20So so you mentioned Nick Saban. I I didn't watch this live, but
- 14:26I've listened to some of the interviews and some of the insights he's given that
- 14:33since the draft. Uh, same same props to Bill Belichick two on the
- 14:39Pat McAfee show. I know that those two are friends and they coached together.
- 14:46Sabin was Belichick's DC when they were in Cleveland. I think those two
- 14:52need to get their own show going where they can just go in as nitty
- 14:56gritty into the exors as they want to. Yeah, but now, all
- 15:01right, So Steelers addressed the offensive line in round one, Troy Faltano out
- 15:07of Washington. What are they doing? Round two? They addressed the offensive
- 15:11line. They go right back to center Zach Fraser from West Virginia out of
- 15:16pick fifty one. Now, my favorite story that I've learned about Zach Fraser
- 15:22since the Steelers have drafted him was last game of the year last year.
- 15:28He breaks his leg and teams out of timeouts, so to avoid a ten
- 15:33second runoff, he literally crawls off the field at to save his team.
- 15:37That is like as tough as you can get on the football field. And
- 15:43that's kind of what people think of when they try to imagine what a Pittsburgh
- 15:48Steeler is. Something kind of like that. So the other center that had
- 15:56there were two centers that the Steelers had been linked to. One was the
- 15:58Duke center. I think his name was Graham Barton maybe, and then the
- 16:03other one was Jackson Powers. Johnson out of Oregon. He went to the
- 16:07Raiders. I think, you know, handful of picks before he got to
- 16:11the Steelers. That being said, Zach Frazier was still one of the top
- 16:15sent rated centers in the draft, and he's from the Steelers' backyard in West
- 16:18Virginia. You know what, I was completely happy with this pick. I
- 16:26was actually at the Braves game and I turned on my stream to watch the
- 16:30Steelers make the pick, and I started jumping up and down and cheering in
- 16:33the concourse when we made this pick. Yeah. I mean, look,
- 16:38no one else in Atlanta was cheering about anything that the Atlanta Falcons had done
- 16:41up to that point. But I was just so happy that we were addressing
- 16:48the line. We had kind of talked about it ourselves, and I said,
- 16:52all things being equal, I want us to take care of the line
- 16:55first, because it doesn't matter who our receivers are, if Russell Wilson can't
- 16:59throw the ball, or Justin Fields or whoever, Kyle Allen even so to
- 17:06see them hold the line, not make a trade, and still get a
- 17:10top center at pick number fifty one. I was, I was stoked about
- 17:14this one. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, there's not
- 17:22much else to say other than like, we didn't even have a starter.
- 17:25I didn't even think we had a center on the on the team. Uh
- 17:30so to not you know, only as you mentioned, get a center.
- 17:34But then also I have the reach for him. That's great. So I
- 17:41you know, I thought that from a needs perspective, player on the board
- 17:47perspective, probably couldn't do much better. So great chat. Yeah, the
- 17:52Steelers released Mason Cole, and They've never come out and said it, but
- 17:56I'm sure that they were thinking, well, no one else is so them,
- 18:00so as a you know, last resort, we could bring them back.
- 18:03They also have her big on the line too that they were They have
- 18:07said, well, you know, we could always slide him over to center.
- 18:10He's played the center before. But we don't even have to worry about
- 18:15that now barring injuries. Like you said, they went out and got in
- 18:19their first two rounds, I believe, two starters. So you're looking at
- 18:26at and I guess they'll have to figure out who's playing left and who's playing
- 18:30right tackle. But you got Broderick Jones, the number one pick from last
- 18:33year, and then you've got Troy Faltano, the number one round pick from
- 18:37this year, and then Zach Frasier the center. So in one year they've
- 18:47or alone. In two years, two drafts, they've gotten three anchors on
- 18:52the line. Three we think long term starters there and that should be a
- 19:00good foundation for several years to come. So I'm happy with it. It
- 19:04seemed like all of Pittsburgh was jumping for joy. And there's not many other
- 19:10fan bases that would be this pumped up over an offensive line over two offensive
- 19:14line picks, But after the things we've seen the last couple of years,
- 19:18I think it's understandable. So moving into round three, the Steelers addressed their
- 19:26other big name or big need, and that was wide receiver. They went
- 19:30out and they got Roman Wilson, a wide receiver out of Michigan. This
- 19:34is a guy who's drawing I just did my Chris Collinsworth. Here's a guy.
- 19:38Here's a guy who is drawing a lot of comparisons to Hines Ward.
- 19:44One of his sayings is no block, no rocks, because he understood that
- 19:48at Michigan they were going to run the ball first, and he needed to
- 19:51take care of his business blocking guys a little shorter, hees about five to
- 19:57ten, but he plays tough, plays with a lot of heart, and
- 20:00he was Michigan's leading receiver this past year on their national championship team. Once
- 20:04again, you mentioned that this made the draft boring, but I'm I'm fine
- 20:10with it as long as the Steelers aren't involved. Weren't many trades. We
- 20:14we kind of let the players come to us, and it just seemed to
- 20:17work out well this year. I think at pick eighty four, a guy
- 20:21like Roman Wilson is a very good compliment to George Pickens. You get the
- 20:26tall athletic receiver, you've got the shorter skill receiver there. I think that
- 20:30it gives a lot of flexibility to the Steelers offense. Yeah, yeah,
- 20:37definitely. I mean it was very exciting. He was Someone described him as
- 20:44Heinz Ward, like, uh, which as the Steelers fans and they you
- 20:52know, I literally just described him to you as Hines Ward. So I
- 20:55am the somebody, Yeah, so you know, But honestly, it's just,
- 21:04you know, I think that at least from what my understanding is of
- 21:12him as a player, him as a person. I think the Steelers are
- 21:18trying to turn the page on on that guy that fell out of like the
- 21:26rounds because of this and this and this, and you know, basically George
- 21:33Pickens, Antonio Brown, Deontay Johnson, all these guys that are whoper talented
- 21:41but are always an issue. You know, what do we do? We
- 21:48traded Deontay Johnson and now replacing him with a guy who is supposed to block.
- 21:56Go figure, maybe I'll actually teacher wider recom something like that. So
- 22:03from what I've heard, he's the guy that can like leave by example.
- 22:08So I'm soaked about it. We're addressing you know, we got great value
- 22:15again here while also getting a great character. I mean, you'll hear it
- 22:22on this pick. You've heard of in the last two picks. You'll probably
- 22:26hear it on a couple other picks in this in this analysis. But I
- 22:32feel like we've just been hitting. And uh, you know a lot of
- 22:36draft puppets that Steelers had one of the best drafts in the in the whole
- 22:42entire league. And this is another example of why, Yeah, I have
- 22:47to give credit to my coworker Scott who's a Michigan fan, who gave me
- 22:51the lowdown on Roman Wilson. But this is another pick that I was I
- 22:57was just excited for because we talked about wide receivers being in need, and
- 23:03then yet again here's a high quality, I guess, well known athlete given
- 23:11that he played on the national championship team that fell down to the Steelers at
- 23:15pick number eighty four. And they didn't try to overthink it, they didn't
- 23:19try to trade up, trade down. They just took the best player that
- 23:25fit their need at the time, and we didn't have to lose any assets
- 23:30over it. So again, it sometimes it does just take a little bit
- 23:33of luck where these things fall into place, and that's kind of what happened
- 23:40here. This next pick probably could be the most interesting, I think of
- 23:44the draft for the Steelers. With pick ninety eight, which by the way,
- 23:48thank you Kenny Pickett because that was part of the trade for him.
- 23:52We got this pick from the Eagles, the Steelers took Peyton Wilson, a
- 23:56linebacker from NC State. Now here's the deal with Peyton w He was arguably
- 24:02the best linebacker in all of college this past year and I think he's been
- 24:10injury free for the past two years now. The reason he fell though,
- 24:15is that because prior to that he has quite a laundry list of injuries.
- 24:22He also doesn't have an ACL in one of his knees and toward the other
- 24:26ACL twice among other injuries. So, you know, we talked about players
- 24:33falling for character reasons. Here's a guy who fell for medical reasons, kind
- 24:41of similar to the Darnell Washington pick last year. I think that was also
- 24:45in Round three. It wasn't really a position that the Steelers strongly needed.
- 24:51It just kind of got to the point where they were like, the value
- 24:53with this player is too high. We'll take him and we'll figure it out.
- 25:00You mentioned Nick Saban earlier. He was on Nick Saban's I guess he
- 25:04called it the all Saban defense. I guess if he made a defense.
- 25:07With all the prospects that were available, he was the last one to go.
- 25:14And really it seems to me, again not knowing much about NC State,
- 25:21it seems to me like without the the medical concerns, this guy probably
- 25:26would have been a first round pick. Uh yeah, I mean, and
- 25:33for a variety of reasons. I mean, he's supposedly a tackling machine,
- 25:37but also coverage. I mean we've I would say, like we've had our
- 25:45collection of guys who are thumpers. I think Bence Wilson or Williams, guys
- 25:52that can like defend the run. But we've always been horrible in the middle
- 25:56of the field when it comes to the pass coverage. So what was the
- 26:03agenda for this offseason? I guess let's store that up. So we have
- 26:08Patrick Queen Wilson, and you know, with that in mind, Roberts played
- 26:19pretty well, so there's step there. Cool. We don't have to rush
- 26:27him back. So you know, we could either get the rookie some some
- 26:33reps, or we can have the rookie watch a little bit. And you
- 26:40know, nonetheless, I mean, I think it gives us a lot of
- 26:42flexibility to it and something that maybe it doesn't feel like a need, but
- 26:49gotcha, gosh, man, last year it or why her linebacker room was
- 26:56a graveyard. I mean, we just had so many injuries and this is
- 27:02just a way too. You know, look, injuries are gonna happen.
- 27:07Let's at least take a guy that we know has the chops to be a
- 27:12great football player, and at the very end of Day three, why not.
- 27:18Yeah, I mean, I really hope this guy stays healthy. One
- 27:21of the quotes he gave to Cam Hayward was he said something to the effect
- 27:26of, I want to be on the field one hundred percent of the plays
- 27:30and I'm always looking to rip someone's head off. Again another Pittsburgh Steeler answer
- 27:37right there. But again, no, you bring up a good point about
- 27:41the depth. It did seem like the Steelers were cursed at linebacker last year.
- 27:47They had solid play from almost every single one and almost every single one
- 27:52got hurt in succession. So as long as Peyton Wilson can stay help the
- 28:00that's fine with me. We also have to point out that he is the
- 28:04third Wilson signed this offseason. There's always a trend every year with Steelers signing
- 28:10alumni or family members or if you've got a brother who's on the in the
- 28:15NFL, we're going to take you this year. If you had the last
- 28:18name Wilson, there's a good chance you were going to sign with the Pittsburgh
- 28:22Steelers. So there's our fun fact for the day. Round number four.
- 28:29The Steelers go right back to the offensive line this time, they take a
- 28:32guard, Mason McCormick out of South Dakota State, the jack Rabbits with the
- 28:37one hundred and nineteenth pick. You know, the offensive line coach said,
- 28:45Christmas came early, and he's right when you use three of your first five
- 28:49picks on the offensive line. I don't know that Mason McCormick is going to
- 28:56be a starter, but I do think he's got a lot of upside.
- 29:00He's probably been hidden a little bit being in South Dakota State, although they've
- 29:03gotten some people into the draft over the last couple of years. But you
- 29:11know what, I'm fine shoring up the line for a lot of the same
- 29:15reasons you mentioned having depth at the linebacker position. Uh, we're gonna need
- 29:19some depth in the line too. I think it was two years ago where
- 29:23we had no injuries to the offensive line, and that is a that's just
- 29:30that's so rare that I can't even believe it actually happened even once, to
- 29:33not have any injuries. Yeah, So I think if you have a good
- 29:38prospect that even if he may not be a starter, he may not be
- 29:42a starter right away. I think that's a good place to take one.
- 29:48Yeah, you know this was a weird offseason. I mean, protecting the
- 29:56quarterback has always been a priority, but there's typically been the same us on
- 30:00the tackles. But with the Aaron Donald effect, people are looking a little
- 30:07bit more towards interior pass rushers, and so guards are starting to get paid
- 30:15like tackles. There were, gosh, the Carolina Panthers, I think gave
- 30:19out two twenty million dollar year contracts to guards over this past offseason, so
- 30:25that's becoming the Norman. James Daniels is I think in his last season under
- 30:33contract, so it could be a little bit of like, we'll see what
- 30:40happens next year kind of thing. Jim Daniels been playing great, but I
- 30:47don't know about we want to pay him twenty million dollars, so we'll see.
- 30:52Well, all right then, But again for this drafts three alignment and
- 31:00the top five picks, you can tell where the focus was at this point.
- 31:04I would say the only need or strong need was a cornerback. But
- 31:12by this point in the fourth round, I still don't think you really want
- 31:15to reach when there's other good prospects there. So that being said, and
- 31:21knowing that they did eventually address it later in the draft, and they did
- 31:25this offseason as well with the Deontay Johnson trade. I'm still good with the
- 31:30guard pick. Moving on, the Steelers did not have a round five pick.
- 31:36In round six, at pick number one seventy eight, they took Logan
- 31:41Lee, a D lineman from Iowa. Interesting first defensive pick of the draft
- 31:48for the Steelers, and it was it took until round six, which again
- 31:52we're fine with. We know all the money's on the defensive side of the
- 31:56ball anyway right now, but still a little out of character for what we're
- 31:59using too. You know what. This is a depth pick. I don't
- 32:06really have much to say about this other than I knew they were going to
- 32:09address defense at some point. We keep talking about depth at certain positions.
- 32:15D line is another one. I mean, Cam Hayward is probably in the
- 32:21last year or two of his career. He's not immune from injuries as well,
- 32:28and really no one is. But when you have that kind of situation
- 32:31on the D line, this is this is a fair pick to make.
- 32:36I would say, yeah, Yeah, I mean I will say at this
- 32:43point in the draft, knowing players and their outlook gets a little hairer for
- 32:49me. Yeah, I like the pick of the line kind of fits and
- 33:00you know, and yeah, that's how I got with this. Now fair
- 33:08enough, And the last pick for the Steelers this year was in the sixth
- 33:13round, one ninety five Ryan Watts, cornerback out of Texas. This was
- 33:19really their last position of need. You could argue safety, but I don't
- 33:22think that was as pressing as cornerback. We also have to remembered that last
- 33:28year in the seventh round, the Steelers selected Corey Trice, another cornerback who
- 33:32went on injured reserves, so we didn't get to see him. Hopefully he
- 33:36comes back healthy and is able to make the roster too. But they spend
- 33:40a late pick on cornerback. I think this is depth really. I don't
- 33:45mean, maybe they expect him to be playing at some point, I don't
- 33:49know. But again, they needed this position and they had the prospect there
- 33:57that they liked for where he was and if he can come in and make
- 34:00something work, great and if not, I don't think anyone's gonna lose any
- 34:05sleep over it. But as far as the pick itself for where it was
- 34:07totally fine with me. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess pedigree
- 34:15of coming from Texas that's green. Uh. You know, at this point
- 34:21in the draft, though, again, it's tough to say how much of
- 34:24an impact that they will make. So let's see. Yeah, all right,
- 34:31well, let me run through the picks again real quick, just one
- 34:36one at a time. Troy Futano, Zach Frasier, Roman Wilson, Peyton
- 34:42Wilson, Mason McCormick, Logan Lee, and Ryan Watts. Okay, so
- 34:52let me ask you for your letter grade. How are you gonna grade the
- 34:54Steelers on their draft? Yeah, I think I would go I don't want
- 35:05to sound wish you was, because I was weighing in between the two.
- 35:10I'm gonna go beat. Plus, I think that they really did great job
- 35:16in the front end of it. You know, on date three, did
- 35:22we nail the picks or kind of fill the holes that we needed to I'm
- 35:27not sure. So I think that's where I'm it's a little hesitant to do.
- 35:34But you know, I thought, especially the first two days, which
- 35:38most important, they really got the value and didn't get to a trigger happy,
- 35:49you know, like they last year. We saw us moving around the
- 35:52board. This year we kind of like just said to us, so I'm
- 35:58very happy with the draft. I'm gonna be a little more positive than you.
- 36:01I'm gonna give them an A on this one for a lot of the
- 36:07same reasons you mentioned. I guess I just weigh that more. Again,
- 36:13no trades. Last year, the trades worked out in their favor. They
- 36:16really what they traded up to get Broderick Jones, but really didn't have to
- 36:21get much or have to give up much, and then they ended up trading
- 36:23back to get Darnell Washington, so they recouped some of that. This year,
- 36:30there were no trades. I know they talked with teams at certain points,
- 36:34but the picks fell to them so they didn't have to really lose anything.
- 36:37I think that's always a plus when you can get the guys you want
- 36:42without having to give up anything. I think the biggest need for me,
- 36:49in my opinion, was the offensive line. And again I say it all
- 36:52the time, it does not matter who the wide receivers are if the quarterback
- 36:59cannot throw the ball. And it's been a problem for years in Pittsburgh,
- 37:05even going back to Big Ben's last couple of years, when Ben transitioned to
- 37:13throwing the ball in like a half second after the snap because he just could
- 37:17not hold on to it without getting sacked. You know, that's a problem,
- 37:22and that really hasn't been fixed. I mean, I guess we have
- 37:24to wait and see if it'll be fixed with this draft. I think it
- 37:28will be. But all that to say, it's just been a problem that's
- 37:31plagued them for several years now. And it's not like Russell Wilson is a
- 37:37spring chicken either, And even if you put justin fields out there, you
- 37:40got to protect him too. So taking the three guys with the top five
- 37:46picks was huge. They still got a wide receiver in the draft that I
- 37:52think can make an impact for a variety of reasons, not just his skill
- 37:58as a player, but some of the things you said, like the mentality
- 38:01that he brings compared to the mentality that some other players that are no longer
- 38:06on the team brought, and they're just their attitude to how they're going to
- 38:10play the game. I think that that alone is going to be a pretty
- 38:15big step too. And then things like the Peyton Wilson pick. I guess
- 38:22I'm going to choose to look at that as caution cautiously optimistic, because to
- 38:29me, that's the biggest risk reward pick given what we've seen him do,
- 38:35but we also know that there's that injury concern. All that being said,
- 38:40they didn't have to give up anything to make any of these picks. They
- 38:45filled a position of need in one way or another with every single pick.
- 38:50The value is right at every pick. I'm just feeling good about this draft
- 38:55class. So I'm gonna go ahead and give them the A and keep watching
- 39:00the con artist work as magic, because these last two drafts have been pretty
- 39:06fun to be a Steelers fan for. Yeah. Yeah, One little thing
- 39:13I feel like I want to mention too is I feel that they feel we
- 39:22have our future starter on the roster at quarterback. The reason why I feel
- 39:31like I said that is because if we felt like we would have to make
- 39:37a move next year, because let's be honest, we're not going to be
- 39:40picking at the top of the draft, we probably have to have ammunition to
- 39:45go up and get a guy, we would have likely trade it back or
- 39:50accumulated some picks for next year. And because we didn't really do that,
- 39:58I mean, it's not how the question that we won't trade future pick,
- 40:02but that normally pass more, etcetera, et cetera. So from a planning
- 40:08perspective. I just felt like, maybe that's just an indication that they feel
- 40:15that Fields or Wilson will be the answer going forward. So yeah, no,
- 40:21no, you're right. I speaking of not picking in the top five,
- 40:28the Steelers are the only team in this millennium that has not picked in
- 40:30like the top five. We have not had a top five pick since Terry
- 40:35Bradshaw that was nineteen seventy. So I think that stat's more impressive than the
- 40:42three coaches in sixty years STAT, to be honest with you, So yeah,
- 40:47I think when you're in that position, you have to make the choices
- 40:50that the Steelers have made with Russell Wilson and Peyton Justin Fields. I'm with
- 41:00you. I think that one of those two is going to be the starter,
- 41:04at least for the next four years. If it's Russell Wilson, I
- 41:07mean, I don't expect him to play forever, but I think about forty
- 41:12is still the shelf life for a quarterback unless you're Tom Brady. So so
- 41:19yeah, I think that no matter who the quarterback is, though, they're
- 41:22taking care of him with the picks that they made in this draft. Yeah,
- 41:28So that's the Steelers draft we're both pretty high on at me a little
- 41:34more than you, But that's fine. I tend to be mister positivity around
- 41:37here. So okay. I know we talked about the Falcons pick with Michael
- 41:47Pennox in the first round. Were there any other interesting picks that caught your
- 41:52eye this draft at any point? You know? I know there was a
- 42:00lot of to do about the Bills trading with the Chiefs and then knowing that
- 42:07the Chiefs were gonna go up and go get a wide receiver. I don't
- 42:13mind it. I mean, people made a big deal with that, but
- 42:17it there was a team. So I'm trying to think, let's say the
- 42:22Patriots old Tom Brady time frame. Would you not trade with the Patriots because
- 42:30of that basically standing in your way each year? Or would you make the
- 42:37trade regardless? Looking objectively, I would hmm. To be perfectly honest with
- 42:50you, I'm I would always be reluctant to trade with anybody just because I'm
- 42:55always like, well, wait a minute, is there something you know that
- 42:58I don't know? Or am I really getting the best value here? And
- 43:01maybe that's because I've spent so much time watching the Steelers never make a trade
- 43:05for anybody until last year. I don't know. I guess I just trust
- 43:09no one when it comes to that. So, honestly, all things being
- 43:13equal, for being objective, i'd probably not trade. Yeah, okay,
- 43:20Yeah, I mean I don't really have a problem with it because I kind
- 43:22of view it as I was thinking about it in fantasy, right, like
- 43:28when you're cheering for the other team not to score on you. It's just
- 43:31like, well, as long as I took care of business and I I
- 43:37did good, I would never have to worry about anyone else's plate. So
- 43:40right, But yeah, no, I just thought it was an interesting thought
- 43:47process because, yeah, some people felt like it's the rich getting richer.
- 43:54Yeah, well, looking back at this draft overall, I'm pretty happy with
- 44:02it. I don't know if there's any picks that I was left scratching my
- 44:07head on other than Michael Pennox won. And I just thought that the run
- 44:13on quarterbacks was really odd. I don't know BOONEX go on to the Broncos.
- 44:21I think it was twelve. I was just like, really, he's
- 44:22a top twelve pick. But again, it's just interesting that, you know,
- 44:30the Raiders probably would have taken a quarterback, but by the time it
- 44:35got to them, it's like, well, Spencer Rattlers, the next one
- 44:38up, we're really going to take him. So they just took the best
- 44:40tight end off the board, which it'll be interesting to see Gardner Minshew on
- 44:46that team. And it sounds like because of the way the draft played out,
- 44:52which I guess is interesting, he's going to have at least one year
- 44:54to see if he can make something happen. And if he doesn't, then
- 44:59I would bet that the race are going to make a pick next year.
- 45:04And it seems like the number one prospect at least as of right now,
- 45:07is going to be Shador Sanders. So really, no way, I'm just
- 45:16telling you who is projected to be number one right now. Don't shoot the
- 45:20messenger. I okay, so maybe it's just like different brands for different folks,
- 45:30but like, I don't know, Sture's out there yelling at all like
- 45:37teammates that are transferring out of the Colorado and saying like, I don't know.
- 45:45I just see this all as just like a big old circus. I'm
- 45:49like, I wouldn't pick them. It's just me so I but don't necessarily
- 45:55disagree with you. I am just telling you the news news schmooze. Well,
- 46:07I think on that note we should probably end it. So was there
- 46:12anything else you wanted to talk about before we sign off for the evening?
- 46:15I'm good, okay, all right, Well that'll do it for our draft
- 46:22recap. The next time we'll be here, it'll be the June special.
- 46:25And I don't know what we're gonna talk about in June. Maybe we'll have
- 46:29to think of some big hypothetical show, but or maybe we can just talk
- 46:32about maybe there'll be another trade or something that we can talk about to get
- 46:37us through those slow months as we lead up to September. So for the
- 46:43world famous accountant Eric vanmin showten, I'm Nick Detulio and this has been another
- 46:46episode of the GameHouse dot COM's Steelers Country Weekly