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- 0:01Speaker 1: It's December one, twenty eighteen. CCTV records twenty two year
- 0:05Speaker 1: old Grace and her tinder date Jesse, getting ready to
- 0:08Speaker 1: leave a bar. They had just met a few hours ago,
- 0:13Speaker 1: but already they're about to head back to his place.
- 0:16Speaker 1: On the outside, everything seemed to be going perfectly well,
- 0:20Speaker 1: so well in fact, that soon after they could be
- 0:22Speaker 1: seen heading to a nearby hotel and up to Jesse's
- 0:25Speaker 1: hotel room. Shortly after, nobody could have expected that this
- 0:29Speaker 1: was the last time Grace would ever be seen alive.
- 0:37Speaker 1: The next day happened to be her birthday, and nobody
- 0:40Speaker 1: was able to reach her all day, and the same
- 0:42Speaker 1: was true even days after. It was like she disappeared
- 0:46Speaker 1: off the face of the earth. Her friends and family
- 0:48Speaker 1: quickly reported her missing, but to no avail. Meanwhile, Jesse
- 0:52Speaker 1: was recorded on CCTV out and about going up and
- 0:55Speaker 1: down the elevator carrying cleaning supplies and what appeared to
- 0:58Speaker 1: be a suitcase, suitcase with contents that would shock everyone
- 1:03Speaker 1: to the core. And what's even worse, the killer had
- 1:07Speaker 1: another date lined up and if the cops don't intervene
- 1:10Speaker 1: and arrest him quickly, this girl, as well as countless
- 1:14Speaker 1: others could fall victim to this very sane man, tell
- 1:22Speaker 1: me what happened, was, sir, and from the beginning. At
- 1:29Speaker 1: five thirty seven pm on December one, twenty eighteen, Grace,
- 1:33Speaker 1: who just finished a backpacking journey from England to New Zealand,
- 1:37Speaker 1: leaves her hostile to meet Jesse. Meanwhile, Jesse is having
- 1:41Speaker 1: pre date drinks at a local bar, downing several beers
- 1:44Speaker 1: before the date begins. In fact, as he leaves the bar,
- 1:47Speaker 1: you can still see at least four empty bottles sitting
- 1:50Speaker 1: on the table. They meet in a popular spot where
- 1:53Speaker 1: there's plenty of people, making Grace feel safe while she
- 1:56Speaker 1: meets her date for the first time. But this will
- 1:58Speaker 1: be a false sense of security, as Jesse has no
- 2:01Speaker 1: plans to try anything on toward in public. He's going
- 2:04Speaker 1: to wait until they're alone. Suspecting nothing, Grace accompanies Jesse
- 2:09Speaker 1: to a bar where they drink together for over an
- 2:11Speaker 1: hour before they head for a Mexican bar at sevenot
- 2:13Speaker 1: fifteen for more drinks and yet another bar named Bluestone
- 2:17Speaker 1: Room around eight thirty pm. This will be where Jesse
- 2:20Speaker 1: tries his luck and sees if he can get a
- 2:23Speaker 1: little closer to Grace at eight fifty four, they share
- 2:27Speaker 1: their first kids. This is when Jesse takes a trip
- 2:31Speaker 1: to the bathroom and where Grace sends her very last
- 2:34Speaker 1: message to anyone, telling her friends that it's going amazingly
- 2:38Speaker 1: well and that she just clicks with him so well.
- 2:42Speaker 1: She's probably excited to spend the night with a man
- 2:44Speaker 1: that she genuinely likes. She could have had no idea
- 2:47Speaker 1: that instead he was about to end her life in
- 2:50Speaker 1: one of the most horrific ways possible. The next morning,
- 2:57Speaker 1: Grace's phone starts to receive a ton of messages. It's
- 3:00Speaker 1: her birthday and there are plenty of friends who want
- 3:02Speaker 1: to send her their best wishes. Each and every one
- 3:05Speaker 1: of these messages goes unanswered. The first sign that something
- 3:09Speaker 1: is wrong is at eight a m. When Jesse enters
- 3:12Speaker 1: the very same elevator, this time on his own, throwing
- 3:15Speaker 1: the camera a suspicious glance. If you think he's just
- 3:18Speaker 1: getting the birthday girl a morning coffee, then think again.
- 3:21Speaker 1: During that night, Jesse killed Grace by strangulation, and now
- 3:25Speaker 1: he's going to try and do everything he can to
- 3:27Speaker 1: cover up his crime, and he needs to do it
- 3:29Speaker 1: quickly because he's already got another potential victim lined up.
- 3:34Speaker 1: By eight o seven am, Jesse is in town and
- 3:36Speaker 1: about to start the most eerie shopping trip possible. He
- 3:40Speaker 1: starts at the warehouse on Elliott Street, where he buys
- 3:42Speaker 1: a suitcase that he plans to hide Grace's body in.
- 3:45Speaker 1: He checks out the width and depth of the suitcase
- 3:48Speaker 1: to make sure it'll fit her so he can dispose
- 3:50Speaker 1: of her body before anyone can catch him. Then, twenty
- 3:53Speaker 1: five minutes later, he makes his way to another store
- 3:56Speaker 1: where he buys a number of cleaning products that will
- 3:58Speaker 1: be used to clean up the murder scene. Then he
- 4:00Speaker 1: returns to his apartment for a number of hours, reappearing
- 4:03Speaker 1: at ten forty two am before he jumps in a
- 4:06Speaker 1: taxi and apex car Rental where he rents a car.
- 4:10Speaker 1: But it's what he does next that's truly shocking and
- 4:13Speaker 1: puts pressure on the cops to discover and solve his
- 4:15Speaker 1: murder as quickly as possible. As Grace's body lies in
- 4:20Speaker 1: the apartment, Jesse goes on a date with another girl
- 4:23Speaker 1: he'd met on Tinder. Given that he has all the
- 4:25Speaker 1: equipment ready to hide one body, it's speculated that he
- 4:29Speaker 1: planned this to be his second victim of the day.
- 4:31Speaker 1: As he arrives at the bar, Jesse is wearing exactly
- 4:34Speaker 1: the same clothing that he wore the night before, possibly
- 4:37Speaker 1: the same clothes that he wore when he killed Grace.
- 4:40Speaker 1: We are not sure whether Kempson was as pushy in
- 4:42Speaker 1: his initial messages to this girl, but what we do
- 4:45Speaker 1: know is that the conversation he struck up with her
- 4:47Speaker 1: during the date not only brought up some major red flags,
- 4:51Speaker 1: it downright terrified her. Allegedly, he wanted to talk to
- 4:55Speaker 1: her about where to hide a dead body from the
- 4:57Speaker 1: police right away. The date is over, and this girl's
- 5:00Speaker 1: instincts may have just saved her life. It's hard to
- 5:04Speaker 1: imagine the horror that she would have felt when she
- 5:06Speaker 1: learned the truth about the man she just walked away from,
- 5:09Speaker 1: certain that he likely had the same fate lined up
- 5:12Speaker 1: for her as he did with Grace. At eight fifty
- 5:16Speaker 1: six pm, we can see Jesse carrying a piece of
- 5:18Speaker 1: equipment back to his apartment. More precisely, it's a carpet cleaner,
- 5:23Speaker 1: and he's going to try and use that carpet cleaner
- 5:25Speaker 1: to try and remove any trace of Grace's presence at
- 5:27Speaker 1: his apartment. He's even got two bottles of cleaner in
- 5:30Speaker 1: his hand, making sure he's got enough to get the
- 5:32Speaker 1: job done. Thirty minutes later and where greeted with the
- 5:35Speaker 1: product of all his hard work. He's about to try
- 5:38Speaker 1: and hide the body. He reappears in the elevator with
- 5:40Speaker 1: a trolley carrying several luggage bags, one of which is
- 5:43Speaker 1: the suitcase that he'd bought earlier that morning. It's way
- 5:47Speaker 1: too heavy to carry as inside is Grace's dead body.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Of course, he can't walk through the streets with this
- 5:53Speaker 1: amount of baggage, which is exactly why he hired the
- 5:56Speaker 1: rental car. Minutes later, he's loading the rental car with
- 6:00Speaker 1: all of the baggage, ready to make the next move
- 6:02Speaker 1: in his attempt to cover up this murder, hiding the
- 6:05Speaker 1: body in a place he thinks no one will find it.
- 6:08Speaker 1: The next morning, at seven a m. Jesse buys a
- 6:10Speaker 1: shovel and heads back to his apartment, where he collects
- 6:13Speaker 1: some clothing to take to the dry cleaners, destroying more
- 6:16Speaker 1: potential evidence of his crime. But he's not done there,
- 6:19Speaker 1: as he stops off at a random trash can, tossing
- 6:22Speaker 1: a large trash bag inside, then Jesse takes his rental
- 6:25Speaker 1: car for a deep clean, paying particular attention to the
- 6:28Speaker 1: rear of the vehicle where he had stashed the suitcase
- 6:30Speaker 1: containing Grace's body, and with that his work was done.
- 6:35Speaker 1: For the next two days, Grace's family and friends go
- 6:38Speaker 1: through turmoil. Nobody has heard from her, she hasn't posted
- 6:41Speaker 1: on any social media, and she isn't answering either of
- 6:44Speaker 1: her two phones. Her family report her missing to Auckland
- 6:47Speaker 1: Police on December fifth. Grace's father, David Even, flies to
- 6:51Speaker 1: Auckland and makes a heartfelt appeal for his daughter's safe
- 6:55Speaker 1: return christ to.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Such buds and as a family with extreme missions for
- 7:00Speaker 2: her welfare to anybody the same spike and turn or
- 7:04Speaker 2: come into contact with Grids, come forward and contact Investiguize.
- 7:08Speaker 1: With so much media coverage at the time, Jesse likely
- 7:11Speaker 1: saw her father's appeal, and yet the family's pleas went unanswered.
- 7:15Speaker 1: But Auckland Police are about to use various methods to
- 7:18Speaker 1: track Grace's last movements and find their main suspect in
- 7:21Speaker 1: her disappearance. They're able to find out she was on
- 7:24Speaker 1: a date with a mystery man, and after pouring over
- 7:27Speaker 1: hours of surveillance footage, they find the last person she
- 7:31Speaker 1: was with and track him back to his apartment. At
- 7:36Speaker 1: three pm on December fifth, the cops turn up at
- 7:39Speaker 1: the City Life hotel, but they almost miss their man
- 7:42Speaker 1: as he eyes them in the lobby. When he approaches
- 7:44Speaker 1: the front door. Jesse thinks if he casually strolls away,
- 7:48Speaker 1: he won't be noticed, but these eagle eyed cops don't
- 7:50Speaker 1: miss a trick and quickly apprehend him before he can
- 7:53Speaker 1: make an escape. At this point, the smartest thing for
- 7:56Speaker 1: Jesse to do is to own up to his crime,
- 7:59Speaker 1: maybe try to play it all off as an accident
- 8:00Speaker 1: and face the consequences, but he's not going to do
- 8:03Speaker 1: any such thing. In the interrogation room, he plans to
- 8:07Speaker 1: lie his way out of theirs, but he's completely unaware
- 8:10Speaker 1: that the cops have already seen every move from the
- 8:12Speaker 1: night of the murder and have about as much evidence
- 8:15Speaker 1: as they could possibly ask for. At the start of
- 8:19Speaker 1: the interview, he has no reason to lie, as he's
- 8:22Speaker 1: just recalling the events before the murder.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Talks about christ So, I was talking to Grace on Tinda.
- 8:32Speaker 3: We'd matched on Friday. I saw that we'd matched the
- 8:37Speaker 3: next day on the Saddler, and then we met at
- 8:43Speaker 3: scar City, and then we decided that we're going up
- 8:45Speaker 3: to Andysberger Bart, which is on the first floor.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Not long into this interview, Jesse becomes entangled in his
- 8:55Speaker 1: first lie, as he claims Grace was the one pushing
- 8:58Speaker 1: for a date, when we already know he was the
- 9:00Speaker 1: one trying hard to meet Grace in their initial messages.
- 9:04Speaker 4: Whose ideal was it to go to that particular burger place?
- 9:06Speaker 5: Me?
- 9:07Speaker 6: Because I knew I didn't initially know that she was real?
- 9:12Speaker 3: What do you well, there's a lot of so have
- 9:14Speaker 3: you heard of catfish? So catfishing is where someone uses
- 9:20Speaker 3: your profile, uses your photos and pretends to you in
- 9:23Speaker 3: the mets and you're a completely different person, right, And
- 9:27Speaker 3: it's on Tinder. It's all about the way you look,
- 9:31Speaker 3: and so if they use more endearing photos, you're more
- 9:35Speaker 3: likely to swipe for them.
- 9:36Speaker 7: Okay, how does meeting in a public place sort of
- 9:41Speaker 7: protective from meeting someone who's not as good looking as all?
- 9:45Speaker 3: There's security there, So if she wasn't who she said
- 9:48Speaker 3: she was, at least.
- 9:52Speaker 6: In my mind, I'd feel safe.
- 9:54Speaker 1: When Jesse is confronted with evidence from surveillance cameras. He
- 9:58Speaker 1: continues to lie, digging a whole himself that he's going
- 10:01Speaker 1: to struggle to escape from.
- 10:03Speaker 5: No.
- 10:04Speaker 3: I go down Victoria Street, straight down to the bottom,
- 10:11Speaker 3: and then hang a left and I head towards the Vida.
- 10:15Speaker 3: You go to the viaduct a bit Yeah, yeah, yep,
- 10:19Speaker 3: you've kind.
- 10:20Speaker 4: Of walked in a bit of a funny direction. If
- 10:22Speaker 4: you were planning to.
- 10:22Speaker 3: Go to the viaduct, what's the direction I normally go, Yeah,
- 10:28Speaker 3: it's I mean, I'm just sort of saying, like, if
- 10:30Speaker 3: you if you were planning to go to the viaduct,
- 10:33Speaker 3: I normally go down Queen Street and then cross at
- 10:36Speaker 3: the bottom of Queen Street, go through the the containers,
- 10:43Speaker 3: and then walk along the wharf.
- 10:47Speaker 4: Is there a particular reason you were kind to do that?
- 10:49Speaker 6: I feel safer down that way.
- 10:52Speaker 1: The cop obviously suspects something strange here. Jesse's behavior and
- 10:56Speaker 1: responses don't seem to line up or make sense at all,
- 10:59Speaker 1: and if Jesse is liken saying, it'll only take a
- 11:01Speaker 1: good few questions to throw them off completely. So the
- 11:04Speaker 1: cop starts to apply the pressure, sending Jesse into panic.
- 11:08Speaker 4: If you don't know if she's been murdered or not.
- 11:09Speaker 8: She may be a lot well, but she might also
- 11:12Speaker 8: be deep okay, and it could be that you've done question.
- 11:32Speaker 6: H.
- 11:36Speaker 1: He's not being arrested just yet, but Aukland police are
- 11:40Speaker 1: convinced Jesse is either behind Grace's disappearance or is at
- 11:43Speaker 1: least involved, and the more they investigate this case, the
- 11:46Speaker 1: more evidence they find to suggest Jesse is the one responsible.
- 11:50Speaker 1: It's not just the surveillance footage that helps solve this case.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Remember the new suitcase and cleaning products Jesse bought the
- 11:56Speaker 1: morning after well, believe it or not, they were all
- 11:58Speaker 1: bought on Greece's credit call, as well as an extra
- 12:01Speaker 1: night's stay at the City Life hotel. In fact, it's
- 12:05Speaker 1: very possible he paid for his second date on Grace's
- 12:08Speaker 1: credit card. An extra day at the hotel should give
- 12:11Speaker 1: Jesse time to clean up the mets, but it's going
- 12:14Speaker 1: to take more than a carpet cleaner to get rid
- 12:16Speaker 1: of the evidence. When police search his apartment, they find
- 12:19Speaker 1: traces of Grace's blood, the credit card payments, the witness testimony,
- 12:24Speaker 1: cell phone locations placing Grace and Jesse together, and the
- 12:27Speaker 1: staggering detail found in the surveillance footage backed their suspect
- 12:31Speaker 1: into a corner, and in his second interview on December seventh,
- 12:34Speaker 1: they left Jesse no choice but to confess, a confession
- 12:38Speaker 1: that would soon lead into one of the most interesting
- 12:41Speaker 1: but troubling defenses ever used in court.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Is talking to me about fifty Shots of Cry, which
- 12:49Speaker 3: is an ex fantasy movie that's out. We started having.
- 12:56Speaker 3: At first it was it was just normal, it was
- 13:01Speaker 3: very placid, and then she asked me if we could
- 13:05Speaker 3: get into bondage. And then all I remember is falling
- 13:11Speaker 3: asleep in the showers.
- 13:17Speaker 4: Would you like some fresh here? Yeah? Please?
- 13:19Speaker 3: I was in shop and I know what to do.
- 13:27Speaker 3: I went downstairs and I was just I was all
- 13:32Speaker 3: over the place. I didn't believe what had happened. I
- 13:39Speaker 3: was just terrified and scared. I thought that she had gone.
- 13:43Speaker 3: I thought she had left.
- 13:45Speaker 7: Thought just special doctor will performs be very skilled.
- 13:50Speaker 4: Established.
- 13:51Speaker 7: It was course understand that.
- 13:56Speaker 3: I went to the warehouse at the ah Rim and
- 14:02Speaker 3: brought a suitcase. I went back and I was just
- 14:10Speaker 3: in shock because it just didn't sing right. I left
- 14:15Speaker 3: to go and get cleaning products, and so I messaged
- 14:19Speaker 3: a friend and said, I met you revelry. After after
- 14:25Speaker 3: finishing drinks with with her, I got back to city
- 14:30Speaker 3: life A long time.
- 14:31Speaker 9: I just kept sat you, I'm sorry, and then I
- 14:38Speaker 9: went downstairs and I grabbed it the important thing and
- 14:46Speaker 9: I put the suitcase want top at the quarter thing
- 14:50Speaker 9: drove the higher character. Wilson's came back impacted. I woke
- 14:56Speaker 9: up the next day at about the five days and
- 15:01Speaker 9: drove the car.
- 15:02Speaker 5: Out to cue you.
- 15:03Speaker 9: At first I picked up a shovel from im at Cum.
- 15:10Speaker 6: I ended up driving towards the white tackeries.
- 15:13Speaker 5: I went into push I dug a hole.
- 15:16Speaker 6: I went and got the suit case and it covered
- 15:19Speaker 6: the hole. And then I drove.
- 15:23Speaker 7: Where's her positions?
- 15:26Speaker 4: And I threw them in the rubbish?
- 15:29Speaker 5: Whereabouts and Albert Park rubbish?
- 15:34Speaker 7: So what items of her property have been disposed of?
- 15:36Speaker 4: An Albert part.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Everything all ever, clothing, everything that was in the room.
- 15:43Speaker 7: Whereabouts did you clean the car? The outside of the car.
- 15:48Speaker 5: I think it was in Henderson Island. I don't know
- 15:51Speaker 5: west very well.
- 15:52Speaker 7: And what did you use to clean it out?
- 15:56Speaker 5: Water blasted thing from the car cleaning the place?
- 16:00Speaker 4: Did she have any injuries?
- 16:03Speaker 5: Not though I can remember. I was just panicking.
- 16:08Speaker 7: Did you inflict any injuries on caused her to die?
- 16:11Speaker 6: Uh not?
- 16:12Speaker 7: Did you kill christ Bline? Okay? And you're under arrest
- 16:19Speaker 7: for the murder of christ Bline?
- 16:21Speaker 6: On?
- 16:22Speaker 7: Or about the second recemer?
- 16:23Speaker 4: You understand? Did you intend to cause it?
- 16:27Speaker 9: Deaf?
- 16:28Speaker 4: Are you ready to take us to where she is?
- 16:30Speaker 1: The media called it the fifty shades of great defense.
- 16:34Speaker 1: The idea is that someone may consent to being harmed
- 16:37Speaker 1: during intimacy, knowing the dangers involved. If they made no
- 16:41Speaker 1: indication to stop, then it would be seen as an
- 16:44Speaker 1: accident and the person responsible shouldn't face a murder charge.
- 16:48Speaker 1: But this defense has always been seen as more of
- 16:51Speaker 1: a scapegoat used by lawyers to try and get their
- 16:54Speaker 1: defendant off with a lighter sentence, which in this case
- 16:57Speaker 1: would be manslaughter. This doesn't change what happened after Grace's
- 17:00Speaker 1: death and the disturbing series of events uncovered during the investigation.
- 17:04Speaker 1: From December first, the day before the date, all the
- 17:07Speaker 1: way to December seventh, cops found Google searches made by
- 17:10Speaker 1: Jesse looking for a place to hide a body. He'd
- 17:13Speaker 1: also taken photos of Grace's body before and after he
- 17:16Speaker 1: packed her into the suitcase. They found Grace's body on
- 17:19Speaker 1: December ninth, twenty eighteen, in the y Takara Ranges just
- 17:23Speaker 1: outside of Auckland. It was determined that she was strangled
- 17:26Speaker 1: and had bruises on her arms and chest consistent with
- 17:29Speaker 1: being pinned down. In New Zealand, there is no such
- 17:32Speaker 1: thing as first degree or second degree murder. All charges
- 17:36Speaker 1: are treated the same, carrying a life sentence. That meant
- 17:39Speaker 1: there was no investigation into the premeditation. All that mattered
- 17:43Speaker 1: was if Jesse killed her or not. It was that simple.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Jesse maintained his innocence, but was eventually found guilty and
- 17:50Speaker 1: on February twenty first, twenty twenty, he was sentenced to
- 17:53Speaker 1: life in prison with a minimum non parole period of
- 17:56Speaker 1: seventeen years. After his trial, two more waits him and
- 18:00Speaker 1: came forward and claimed Jesse had only assaulted them after
- 18:03Speaker 1: they met him on Tinder. He was found guilty on
- 18:06Speaker 1: those charges as well, adding another eleven years to life
- 18:10Speaker 1: added to his sentence