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10yrs in prison becomes LA Real Estate Guru- Danny Navarro · Nightmare Success In and Out

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What happens when he works here? Becomes your reality.
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Hi. I'm Brent, Cassidy.
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Welcome to the nightmare success in and out podcast.
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But we explore a how to overcome your fears and Nightmares is set
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Success, listeners. We are back and I know you guys
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happens when your worst fear becomes your reality.
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How do you adapt? How do you survive?
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How do you overcome and set yourself free?
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I've got that kind of guest today is name's Danny, Navarro.
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I guess if we were get a name, this it would be prison to real
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estate world. In this guy, ten years ago, came
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out and he was grew up in a tough neighborhood.
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Grew into really family and friends that were all around,
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you know, sixth grade. You know, he was pushed into the
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world of walking the streets and with the drug dealing and gangs
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and 18 years old. Danny is sentenced to a
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mandatory minimum of 10 years and then what Happens when he
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comes out. It's all about that.
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Inspiring stuff on mindset. You know.
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How do you overcome? How do you get what you want?
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How do you stay with it? How do you stay tenacious?
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All right, folks, here we go. Danny, welcome in my man.
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Thank you for having me today. So I did a little bit this
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morning watching you on Prison professors in your stories.
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Just I don't know. It's kind of one of those
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stores, you know, everybody loves a good comeback, great
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comeback stories like you know, somebody gets knocked down and
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they fight and they get back up and then they make it and it's a
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really your stories as far as she probably be in, you know,
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one of those documentary things that they do on these streaming
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services. But Daddy, tell us a little bit
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about you know, you growing up and the and the world's you were
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living in growing up as a kid. What was this like for you?
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Mom, Dad. Kids siblings all that.
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Yeah, so everything came down comes down to environment,
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right? You know, I as early as a
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remember, my parents, you know, my dad used to work.
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My mom was always a hard worker and I want to say probably maybe
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that I can remember maybe 56 years old that.
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I re I recall my Dad being on drugs when maybe when I was
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aware, what crack was, will crack cocaine was and I used to
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see him smoking in the house. I didn't know what it was two
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years later. And and so I want to say that's
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when I started seeing a lot of different things going on at my
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house and in the environment that I was growing up in and you
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know, there's vivid memory that I remember I remember you know,
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my dad smoking crack me. He and buy me toys.
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Play while he was smoking crack and then, you know, months or
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years later, I don't know. I remember my mom and my dad
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fighting, and my mom, kicking my dad out, and pretty much.
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That was, that was the end of my parents.
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Oh, would you been then what happened?
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I think that was like, in fifth grade because I moved from one
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house to another house in fifth grade.
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And, and I want to say that was definitely a turning point for
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me. Yeah.
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It was a new, a different area. Different environment is same
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city, but just different area. And but for that fifth grade to
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sixth grade, that's when I started smoking weed drinking
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hanging out with with different groups of people and that's
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where it all began. So, your mom.
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That's interesting. Though is like your mom, your
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dad moves out? Your mom moves, did you, did you
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continue to have connections with your dad, or Or was that
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just a, it was a break that, you know, you went on with your life
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and he went on with his life and then how did your mom handle
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being a single mom with you guys.
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And I forget how many you have a sister and a younger sibling.
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At that time I only had my older sister and one younger brother.
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So when that my dad has been off and on and out of my life
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growing up, he was, you know, drinking, you know, alcoholic on
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drugs. You know, in, I need all the
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memories that I recall. He was in Rehab homes and my mom
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always was an amazing. You know is amazing mother to at
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least try to get my dad into our lives as much as I can, but it's
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just when somebody at that time is going through drugs and
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alcohol, and crime, you know, being around.
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There's kids is not the most priority at the moment.
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Yeah. And and, and my mom, you know,
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she she did the best that she possibly can to Support us.
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And she was just a hard-working lady that went to work in the
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morning, got off in the evening and we were just like, hey
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here's the food at the house and eat the meat, you know,
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microwave the food and and you know and then and that's how
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growing up was So I went to jail.
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Well Danny, was she aware? Because I sounds like she was
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working a lot and trying to keep you know, you guys clothed and
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fed and was there any indication to her that you were falling
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into this world? And sixth grade where you were
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running with the wrong people and getting into drugs to did?
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She did you guys ever talk about that?
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Or was that just kind of a separate?
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You lived your world and she was living hers and that you really
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didn't cross waves that way. Well, it started it starts
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small, right. First, you start, you know,
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your, I wasn't getting good grades in school.
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Yeah, you know, I then, I wouldn't show up to school and
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then, then maybe they caught me ditching and then and then, you
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know, then you have to go through Saturday school and
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right and so drastically. I started getting in trouble,
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more and more. And, and I feel is she became
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very maybe in Denial at some point and shed.
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And but I mean she was very strict with me to a point where
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I feel that she decided just to dislike.
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Hey, give up. You know, you can drink here at
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the house. You can smoke here at the house.
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I rather have you at the house versus in the streets.
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Yeah. But you know and it just got
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worse every single year from from fifth grade.
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So did you feel like in that world Danny that you had found
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like it was it a security piece for you?
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To be able to run with those people and be with that gang and
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did that feel like family? Did you feel like you were kind
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of in your place? Or did you feel like a an
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interloper, an outsider or what was in a teenager's brain?
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Like what's going on in your brain at that time?
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So, you know, we didn't know any better we were just you know we
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played Sports when we were young like I grew up around a group of
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guys maybe like 10 guys or maybe that we all went to middle
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school, we all went to elementary school together and
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then we went to middle school and we were all good kids.
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Yeah. But I as I look back, I remember
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you know, thumb didn't have their dad and others were dads
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were strict. If you know they're their
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parents were Stricker and and and we you know we played Sports
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and then we just started like getting into trouble year after
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year and and then like seventh eighth grade is when the gang
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stuff started getting. We started getting involved in
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the gangs and it was like we all grew up together and got it.
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To involved in this game environment all together and
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then throughout the years it just started getting trickling
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away. They you know one goes to jail,
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one goes to juvenile hall one, you know, it's getting sentenced
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to, you know, looking at a juvenile life and then you got,
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you know we I lost my first friend at 16 so it just started
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every year just Unis just started getting less and less.
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So did you feel like you know loses somebody at 16?
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I mean Did that, was it scary or me?
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I'm sure it was sad, but did seeing people go in and out of
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juvenile and that was that something that you were looking
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at saying, gosh, that's probably going to happen to me.
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Or did you think not? It's I'm going to be able to get
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away from this. Or did you are you saw that as
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your life? That was my life and I loved it.
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Yeah. II love being involved in the
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streets. I love being around the criminal
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activity. I didn't have any other
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environment so that's all I knew and I knew that I was going to
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go to jail at some point because that was that's what we do,
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right? So I always been hungry and
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vicious, it's just that I didn't know I didn't have the I didn't
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have the right people around me to give me the positive stuff to
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say, Hey, you know, go to school.
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Go to not, go to school, but maybe, you know, start a
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business, right? You know, repeat pull ups.
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It was all - bad environment that, you know, that that we
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were around that I was around one.
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Like you said Danny that was your environment.
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You didn't know anything else. And and those people were people
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that you're probably looking up to that people were thinking
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stair. Steps of becoming more powerful
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are getting in creating more wealth.
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'The, I mean, you know, probably, there was people that
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had money in that environment. I mean, I can see how all that
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happens. I I talked to a lot of different
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people on on this show that get into that world and it becomes
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very normalized. It's not like, oh boy, you know
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if I, you know, over here I went, you know, just sleep over
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at a friend's house and, you know, they had dinner and and
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went to a movie and they didn't you didn't see that.
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It was just, you were living a different whole different
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environment, whole different life, hold it.
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Current set of mentors, which is kind of more than interesting
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and fascinating about how you created a life for yourself.
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After everything happened to you in a bad way, but let's step
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into that, you're 18 years old. Now, you're on a world where
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something bad happens. You're treated as an adult.
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Can you walk us through how that nightmare came to you?
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Yeah. So I mean I was I was involved
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in drugs and selling drugs since I was like 15 or 14, I don't
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even know. And and then every year it just
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got worse with the severity of drugs, 16 17 18 and I didn't
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realize the type of people that I was around or the types of
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drugs that carry the sentences that we had.
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So I, you know, Really sort of stumbled upon people that were
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involved in in the amount of drugs that were being sold that
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we're at a federal level. Yeah.
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So I didn't know anything about a federal level.
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I didn't know anything about a federal prison like I go to
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jail. You know, I go away for two, you
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know, two years. I do have time I come back out
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we can do it again, not a big deal so I started getting
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involved in selling methamphetamine at like 16 and
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then it just a tad. First, I went to LA County jail
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and I did about 30 days and that felt like the end of the world,
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I bet. And and I am like, this is the
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worst. I never want to go out.
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I never want to get involved in prison.
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Again, our jail, all the the stuff that happens in there.
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And so, but while I was away, there was still a Federal
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indictment that was being, you know, It was still going,
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there's good. So I just came out and it's like
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really nothing changed because there was still a Federal
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indictment, I just disappeared for 30 days, okay?
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And I was involved with the guy that went to New York that we
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were selling them, some drugs and and he cooperated with the
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government. So when he came back he was
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already a confidential. You know, it's a CI and he was
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already working for the government.
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So when I came back, I got out of a Lake County jail and he we
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were Back in business, and before, you know, it within six
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or seven months that I got out like, in March by October.
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I was already facing 120 115, 15 years, in federal prison.
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And so, the day that this happens to a because I guess you
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might have, did you have any idea that you were being
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investigated that you had a CI? Did you have any, did you feel
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like there was a hot Trail on you?
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Or did you you totally taken by surprise?
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Everything was a joke to me, okay?
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I didn't realize how what I was doing here at that much time.
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I thought it was all fun and games I used to see them
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watching me and I used to follow them the DEA and I didn't
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realize that they were you know, that it was so severe and I mean
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I already knew they were watching I just didn't know.
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I didn't realize how serious it was and then October 14 2004 The
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DEA and ATF and the local police department raided my mom's house
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and I get, I would never forget that day when they came into my
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mom's house with rifles and put everyone in the ground and
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everyone's screaming. And all I remember is my mom,
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saying you got the wrong guy. Mmm, you got the wrong.
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You're looking for his dad. Yeah.
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And they're like no, we're looking for junior.
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And and that day changed my life that was that day was, you know,
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and it's just, you've been a, it's been that day was the
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biggest day, you know, that that changed my life.
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And I remember going outside, they handcuffed me and and I'm
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outside handcuffed in the da saying, hey, you know, you know,
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you're gonna do some time like no I'm not, he's like, you're
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going to do some time and he's like, you're not going home.
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You're looking at, you know, 10 to 15 years and I just laughed
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at Like, whatever, you know, still, I didn't know anything
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about the DEA to know anything about the feds, but you
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experienced a hell of a deal with people breaking in and your
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mom and the whole. I can't imagine how traumatic
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that would have. Been at that moment.
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And then your mom saying, they got the wrong guy.
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I just, that's something you see in the movies.
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So let's do this. Let's take a break here because
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You get your taken away in the car, you think it's not a big
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deal. The guy tells you it is this is
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a big deal 10-15 years. What happens next?
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I go to downtown Los Angeles to Metropolitan Detention Center.
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They take me in, I'm seeing Marshalls.
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I'm like this is not like a Lee County, Jail's is totally
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different and it took about, I don't know about maybe 24 hours
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to finally get checked in. And at that time, I still was
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not sure because I if I recall it took me.
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A few weeks before I even got my first phone call and to see to
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get a rain to see the judge. Wow, so yeah I mean we I walk I
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walk in, they booked me, they put me in the holding cell, you
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know, we're not really allowed to use the phone and and I think
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like within 24 hours I hit the module and you know right away
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if it's you know who you run with right you know and and and
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You go with with your race, right and me be involved in in
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gangs and Mexican gangs. I mean we follow suit in there,
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there's no question but it felt like you know what it felt.
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It was normal because this was my life.
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I was around gangs I was around it.
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Was normal for me is just like it was just a new it was just
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different because I was now in jail.
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Yeah so when you get did you get a public defender or did you
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have an attorney that came to your defense?
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How did that all work for you? So I first had a public defender
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and one of individual that was on my case had someone from the
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same office and and so that was a conflict of interest so they
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appointed me not it was not the public.
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It was a it was the ones that do it for the pro bono.
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really, really good attorney that gave me a lot of great
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advice on prison and my sentence, because the public
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defender wanted to take this to trial, and I was all-in for
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taking it for Trot. I didn't understand that there
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was a 98% of it conviction rate in the federal, right?
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And I was like we're going, he's like, we're going to go on trial
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that you know, we're going to do this, we're gonna put your mom
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and I'm like, let's do it. And when I finally got appointed
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to the To the other attorney. She said you're freaking crazy.
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Yeah. You could be go away forever.
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Yeah. Yeah, you're no way we're going
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to trial. And I never forget.
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She's like, look it as a mom, I would tell you to cooperate, but
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as your attorney and working with the cases, I have worked
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with take your time. And that was really scary at 18
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years old, 18 years old. Looking at 120 months.
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Ten years is my life was over. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Life was over. I'm like, I'm gonna come out
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when I'm 30, I'm going to be old dirty exactly at 18 years.
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Old already looks old. Exactly, exactly.
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So Daddy you get when you get in there and you get sentence Do
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you know that you're getting what what your sentence is going
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to be like when you're standing there?
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Is it already been worked out? Or is it holding your breath
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wondering? What the judge is going to say?
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So, I had since I went to LA County Jail prior to, I had a
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prior not for drug but I had a with regarding bath and cars.
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So I already had a history so that changed me on the bracket
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of the the charts. So it wasn't a first-time
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offender. So that 10 years was the
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mandatory minimum. So they wanted to give me 13
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years because due to my crime, my, my past and And it being
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that I was still on probation. I was in state probation and
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that I would just recently arrested.
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So it took about 14, maybe 15 months to finally get sentenced.
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And that whole 12 months, 15 months, you're in limbo.
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You don't know you go to court every 3-4 months, you go to
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court and then you they don't they say a few things.
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They said, hey come back in a few months.
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And, and that's how it was for, for the whole 1215 months.
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That's gotta sing like, it's got to seem like forever, Danny,
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because you're not at home, you're in, you're in jail which
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is one of the worst places to reside while you're waiting for
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something that's going to change your life in a you know it's not
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going to be in a good way but you just don't know how long
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it's going to be. So you're going down bouncing
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back and forth for that 15 months, they finally bring you
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in. What happens that day?
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so, I want to say that I already signed a plea agreement for 120
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months and and that was like a deal and and mocking you like
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I'm with these guys that are facing twenty Thirty forty fifty
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years so they're like take the 10 dude you got a deal take the
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10 it was it was really interesting because I was so
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young and not and I tried to get bail.
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I wasn't able to get bail. My mom didn't have a house at
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the time. No one wanted to put a house up
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to let me out. So this 1215 months that I was
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in there, I was prepping to do time.
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Yeah. And I was getting coached
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getting mentored right by these guys that that were prepping me
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to do my sentence. I just didn't realize that
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right, you know, and like you know, they were like, hey you're
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going to be young? They were Helping me get through
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this, you're going to be young, you're going to be, you're going
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to be, how does your whole life ahead of you?
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Right. Yeah.
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So I'm like, you know what? 10 years?
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Let's do it like, I'm like, you know what it is when I signed
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the agreement, you know. There was still in denial.
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Like maybe I can break the mandatory minimum, but what you
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can and at my attorney said, hey we're going to go in there.
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We're going to get you the 10 but you know they're just so you
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know there's a good chance that they can give you the higher
26:12
scale of it, which is going to be 13 years. and, I get very
26:23
emotional because, you know, it's a blessing to be where I'm
26:27
at today in my life. Yeah. and I remember my mom
26:35
cried, when I got sentence and everyone cried, And you know the
26:46
judge gave me 120 months. Wow, felt like that, bro.
26:53
And your I know that's such an emotional day to I you know,
26:58
everybody who's experienced at that time to Anna, you've
27:03
vividly can see it and feel it. And and yeah, it's my day was,
27:10
you know, as a packed courtroom and three ring, binders for six
27:13
people getting indicted and charged and sentenced in.
27:17
It's just it takes your breath away, my wife tells me Me that
27:21
she could hear the air coming out of me because, you know, I
27:25
was like, my deal was from probation 025 and I got five and
27:32
she maxed out. I think everybody except for one
27:35
person and it just hits you like, you just feel it and
27:41
there's no weather experience like it.
27:43
I don't know that maybe there is, I haven't experienced
27:46
another feeling like it and you know that your family you and I
27:49
talked about this before we got On your, when you go to prison,
27:54
your family goes to prison. They have to deal with the time
27:57
that you do on the outside and you deal with the time on the
28:00
inside. What happens after this day.
28:08
I get I get sentence. I get a really quick minute
28:15
speech to tell the judge and I remember the judge he, you know,
28:19
he they had a nickname for him, let him go less, right?
28:22
And then he didn't let me go, I didn't follow his nickname right
28:27
and he gave me a speech. About how to do prison time.
28:33
Hmm and how I was young and that I was going to get a second
28:40
chance and that you were I was going to be young and that if I
28:43
took the right steps that I would be able to do something
28:46
when I got out. And it was a long speech that he
28:49
gave me, but I was honestly after 16, you know, I don't
28:54
know. I don't recall if it was 12 or
28:56
15, 16 months, it took get sentence.
28:58
I was relieved and I was happy to get sentenced.
29:01
To do this time and start my journey and as crazy as it
29:07
sounds, when you get back to the dorm you're like, hey, I'm I got
29:10
censored. I'm ready to start this journey.
29:12
Yeah, yeah, I think I think some of that Danny is you so worn out
29:18
through the whole process and practice, you know, going to
29:22
prison is better than being in County Jail.
29:25
I mean, that's for sure. You know, that's so transitory.
29:28
There's so many weird things that happen in County, not that
29:31
weird things. Have been in prison but people
29:33
are living there. That's their their life there
29:35
and things and rules are different.
29:38
What where did you what prison did you end up going to So, I
29:45
first went to Victorville. Yeah.
29:48
And and I stood there for about a month as that was at the time
29:55
that was like a hub. So, first of all, I didn't know
29:57
where I was going, right? We don't know.
30:00
And I'm getting, I'm eight, you know, I'm 19 at the time and
30:05
I'm, like, I'm around guys that are 50 60, and they're like, we
30:09
just got back from Levin's where we just got back.
30:12
We have to have the Black Box on them.
30:14
They're doing double life. I don't like what the fuck Act
30:18
is this? Yeah and my the guy that I was
30:21
chained up with he did. He got 30 years for kidnapping
30:27
and so I'm like where am I going to my first time at the?
30:30
They maybe send me to the wrong place.
30:31
Yeah we bought I go to Victorville.
30:34
I didn't know at the time that it was just a holding facility.
30:36
Yeah. So from there, sit there for
30:40
about a month and then I got transferred over to Long block
30:45
and and then from there, I stood there for about six months,
30:51
because I was supposed to go to the low and then it was supposed
30:56
to go to the camp of my points. Got all messed up, so they put
30:59
me to the new rock, which was a medium at the time and they just
31:03
made it. It went from a USP to a medium
31:06
and then I got stuck. Tuck in there for, like, six
31:09
months in the hole today, re-evaluated my points.
31:12
So I was like, what? An entry it was.
31:17
It was crazy. Because the guys, and the people
31:20
that I was around, was like, holy fucking this, how this
31:23
gonna be? Yeah, yeah.
31:26
And and, you know, there was like, literally writes that just
31:30
happened and it was just like, oh my God, and it felt like a
31:33
movie like this kid. That's never going to get out.
31:36
Yeah. Well, I mean, they call the
31:39
mediums, the Gladiator schools because there's just enough
31:41
going on that everybody can get hurt.
31:45
And and you know it was just it was it was just crazy.
31:50
How did you handle being in the hole for six months?
31:53
I mean, I can't imagine that as an entry because I mentioned
31:59
Aaron Duncan who's one of the sponsors of the show?
32:01
He thought he was going to a camp parents dropped him off.
32:05
They said he could bring in white tennis shoes, because he
32:07
thought he's going to Camp. So he and and somehow his
32:09
paperwork is messed up. And he ends up in a medium, they
32:12
beat him beat him up over his shoes, and he ends up.
32:15
And the whole for three months, his family doesn't hear from him
32:18
for three months because they think he's at the camp.
32:20
Did you? And those six months, did you
32:22
talk to anybody Juiced? It was there any communication?
32:25
I mean, your what's going on in your world when you get locked
32:28
into that world? So I recall like being in this.
32:35
And remember at the Lompoc media, they at that time, it was
32:38
like, the old like prison for for the, the military or the
32:44
service or something, right? So it was cold, it was over 100
32:47
years. Old windows, were broken bars,
32:49
it was extremely cold. And, you know, I mean, it was
32:56
knowing now, it was all mine set.
32:59
Yeah, to handle the day. Because the way I am out here is
33:04
the way that I was in there, we worked.
33:08
We know, we want the doors crack at for the more we got up in the
33:11
morning and we crack. It was like how many people are
33:13
going out? One or two?
33:14
Well for us, we have to go out. No matter.
33:17
What. If we don't go out, we're going
33:19
to have some problems. With, you know, our, I'm going
33:23
to have some problems if I don't go out by my own people.
33:25
Yeah. So no matter if it was raining
33:27
pouring out there, we're going out there and we're going to go
33:29
out there and do some burpees. That's just routine.
33:33
And I remember used to be scared I'm like I got to make sure I'm
33:37
up because if I don't get out of this cell and go out, I'm going
33:40
to get in trouble for not going out.
33:42
Yeah. And and it was a routine, it
33:45
was, I got out, we went out, we worked out, came back to the
33:49
cell, I did my birdbath. We had our breakfast, we
33:53
showered. We slept, we read.
33:55
We did our showers at 3:00. So, it was all just a routine
33:59
that I went through and, and, and, and, and you know, playing
34:04
reading books, reading cards, you know, throwing stuff down
34:07
the tears talking to guys in the tears, and it was just a routine
34:13
that Had to build myself to have a really strong mindset to be in
34:18
this cell for so long. You know, do you think that?
34:24
I mean, one of the things I think so incredible.
34:27
When you when you go through something like that is is really
34:30
amazing. What you can adapt to what you
34:33
truly can't adapt to you. Can, you know, you can adapt.
34:37
You know, it's What you walked into, obviously you weren't
34:41
expecting you fell into a routine and got yourself into
34:45
the mindset that whatever happens.
34:46
I'm just going to make this work because there's, you know, I
34:50
always say there's two, there's two different people in prison.
34:53
There's the ones that you're seeing trying to make it work
34:56
and there was the ones that give up is really not anything in
34:59
between in prison and you can see the ones that have given up
35:02
and you can see the guys that are trying to make it work.
35:05
Once you got out of that, that whole hold You know, for six
35:10
months, how did you enter the prison world?
35:12
Like what was your what strategies were you thinking
35:15
Danny walking into the yard? Well, you know, I still really
35:21
didn't know what to expect. Yeah, I didn't know what was
35:25
coming. I didn't know.
35:26
All I heard was stories and how to do prison time.
35:31
And I remember, you know, I used to, you know, have like a lot of
35:35
older guys that been in and out of the prison there.
35:37
Just tell me he, you know, don't do drugs.
35:40
You know, you stay clean. Don't don't drink.
35:42
And just, you know, basically stick to your word, be a man of
35:45
your word and just shut up. You know?
35:47
Like, I just There were these guys that were coaching me how
35:51
to do my prison time. So when I hit the yard, I really
35:55
didn't know what to expect, you know, just to follow suit with
36:00
your car, right? The the people that you're with
36:03
but it became just a routine and you know, at some point it took
36:07
me a while to get a job and then from a job it would work out
36:10
job. Come back, you know, shower, you
36:13
know and then I was just always constantly reading and I Had a
36:19
program and I stick to this program for years.
36:23
So that was your strategy. Get a good job.
36:26
What kind of job did you have by the way?
36:29
I had multiple jobs and meals working at the kitchen.
36:31
I was sweeping I was cleaning the dorms.
36:34
I mean every year was always different like it, it just
36:37
depends on the season and the time of the job and one thing I
36:41
thought about prison jobs is, if you could get a decent prison
36:43
job, it definitely made the time go quicker.
36:46
And you know, I worked in the Food Warehouse.
36:48
So I felt like, you know, I come from a business world.
36:51
So you know, I was the the clerk of the warehouse, you know, I
36:54
had to keep inventory notes but it kind of made me.
36:58
I got forklift certified. So I was thinking that I'm doing
37:00
things that are keeping me engaged, you know, and like you
37:04
said, working out but it's incredible.
37:06
How you get into these routines. And the thing I think that's
37:09
good and bad about routines is those routines?
37:12
Truly become your well cuz those are the things that you do to
37:16
get your time. But you get a little weird with
37:19
a to you, like you don't sit in somebody's spot, you sent the
37:21
same place, they're all those different weird things that
37:24
happen in prison. Also, I think make I saw a lot
37:29
of people become really fearful about getting out because they
37:31
get even though they hate that comfort and that routine that
37:35
becomes their, it's like it puts its arms around you.
37:39
And and then the thing you become unfamiliar with is being
37:42
on the outside. So it's a weird world because
37:46
you don't want to lose yourself in prison.
37:47
That was my fear. You know, I want to be Brent, I
37:50
don't want to lose me but you also want to do things that help
37:54
you get through your time and it sounds like to me that you kind
37:56
of figure it out. But one thing I was thinking
37:59
though Danny when because you were great gang-related on the
38:02
outside, how did that work for you on the inside?
38:07
Well, I mean, I ran with the the strenuous, you know, South sites
38:12
is Outsiders. And I mean, that's there's no
38:16
other choice. Yeah.
38:16
I mean that's who we had a. That's was me.
38:19
Yeah. And and and that's the people
38:24
that I hung around. So it came with the stuff that
38:28
happens, right? And there's a lot of stuff, a
38:33
lot of stuff that happens and with the grace of God, I was
38:36
able to dodge a lot of stuff because I would get somewhere
38:39
and they were already locked down or and like I missed a lot
38:43
of stuff that I'm so grateful for because there was guys that
38:48
I would get to this, that I was going home tomorrow.
38:50
I was going home this week and now I'm facing another 10 years
38:53
and I'm like, what? The fuck.
38:55
Yeah, that happens a lot. Exactly.
38:59
And I was already prepared to come out.
39:02
I'm going to do all my 10 years, there's no doubt in the going to
39:04
do all my 10 years. I had to program myself to
39:10
forget about the outside world. And, and that's like what, you
39:14
know, what's good and bad because, like, I become a little
39:18
bit too cold at time, because I'm just so, like, nothing
39:22
bothers me. Nothing bothers me, and that
39:25
Human Side. Sort of Of disappears.
39:28
Yeah, but so programmed in this routine over act like the world,
39:32
the outside world didn't matter to me.
39:35
This is my world. This is my life right now.
39:37
Yeah, it's there's a guy. I think these Devon West that
39:42
what he was a athlete quarterback, went into prison
39:47
was drug-related. And he talks about this older
39:52
guy that had been in prison. He was having a hard time, he's
39:54
getting in fights going to the hole and he said, man, you're
39:56
just, you're Your time hard. He said this he said you got to
40:00
think of prisoners that it's like a Boiling Pot of water.
40:03
He said I put an egg in that water.
40:06
He said, what happens Davis, why?
40:09
I guess it gets hard, he said, yeah, you can't get hard in here
40:12
because you lose yourself. He said, now I put you should I
40:17
put a Coffee Bean or? No, I put a carrot and the
40:21
watery. So what happens to he says it
40:23
gets sought. He said he can't get soft
40:24
because you got, you got to still maintain, you know, that
40:27
At feel look that you have to have while you're in.
40:31
He said I put the Coffee Bean and the water he says what
40:34
happens and so I'm not I'm not following, he said the Coffee
40:40
Bean changes the water not the water changes a or the care he
40:45
said that's what you get to be in prison.
40:46
You got to change the water. You got to be the change so you
40:49
don't lose yourself and I think that's kind of interesting
40:52
analogy because there's you get too hard what you're talking
40:56
about. Danny and prism you Lose
40:57
Yourself, you get soft and you can lose yourself to I get
41:02
killed. So it's kind of a weird dynamic
41:05
and prison of how you live in that world but become someone
41:09
that can get through it. And it sounds like to me that
41:13
you you figured out how to navigate the way that you were
41:18
wanted to live that way. And the total amount of time
41:21
that you spend in there was how long because I know you do 86%.
41:26
If you have a good time, a little about eight years, a
41:30
little over eight around there with and then at like eight and
41:33
a half with the county time, like it's like around there.
41:35
Yeah. Who like roughly around their
41:38
little over eight, you know, and then eight and some months and
41:43
then the halfway house and all that stuff, did you feel about
41:46
Danny as you were going through? Did you feel like you were
41:49
changing? Did you think that prison was
41:51
changing you? How how did you live that life
41:54
and that amount of time. It's a long time.
41:56
I was I was 3 years. You did eight years.
42:00
It's a lot more time. What?
42:01
How did you move through it? So it took about close to two
42:07
and a half to three years to decide.
42:08
I wanted a change because I was still just drinking hanging out
42:12
like we were young. So like you know, I'm like hang
42:15
out after work and just like it felt like I was just in the
42:18
streets to be honest with you because just hang out with the
42:22
homies that, you know, after right and it took about two and
42:26
a half years to say, I want to change and come out better than
42:30
how I came in. And that day was Somebody gave
42:35
me a book Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill.
42:39
Yeah I was reading this novel ass like I don't even know what
42:43
Nava was because like what are you reading?
42:45
Stop reading this and I never forget this guy because this guy
42:49
Billy from New York, changed my life and he goes stop reading
42:52
that jump. Like what do you want me to read
42:54
this? Call me read like and he's like,
42:56
read this and then he was like after you read that book, I'll
43:00
maybe give you another book and I'm like, okay?
43:03
And then I read Read it and I was just like, what the heck?
43:06
What is this? This is amazing.
43:08
Yeah, Think and Grow it. And then from there, my, what
43:12
was the biggest message you got out of that because that's one
43:14
of my favorites. What did you what was you?
43:16
After you read that? What were you thinking, Danny?
43:20
Think and Grow Rich. It was all on my thoughts.
43:25
Yes, pause on. You know what my thoughts were,
43:30
and how to change my thoughts and that book, that was the
43:38
biggest game changer. Because then from there, I
43:40
wanted to read more and I just it's like I never I never even
43:44
knew what that person ever read and then and then you throw me
43:47
this book and I was just like, oh my God and I just wanted to
43:51
read more than it went from Zig Ziglar Les Brown and these men
43:55
to These Guys these personal development books, how me get
43:59
through my sentence. Yeah Tony Robbins, yeah Zig
44:02
Ziglar Les Brown helped me through his readings.
44:07
Get through my time with the mindset that though and it was
44:11
just you know, getting educated on all the good stuff, you know,
44:14
getting educated and I was loving these books and I was
44:17
reading, you know, constantly reading and growing Going.
44:20
And then, you know, I learned about Tony Robbins and I'm like,
44:23
who the hell is this guy? And, and then my reading
44:27
material became different, and then my mindset became
44:31
different. And then I wanted now, to be
44:35
every now, every day was like, I want to be better than yesterday
44:38
and I want to come out better than how I came in and that was
44:41
my mission. Love it, love it.
44:43
You know and they all those things really roll right around
44:46
at people places and things. You know, if you if you change
44:49
those three things The EU and that changes your mindset.
44:53
You know, one of the, my favorite quotes on mindset is
44:56
Henry, Ford it says, whether you think you can or think you
44:59
can't, you are right. And it's just it's very cool
45:03
that you read that book and it was a game-changer changed your
45:07
life and then you just started, you know, basically vacuuming in
45:11
everything else that was in there.
45:13
So as you were living in their reading these things, did you
45:19
hang around with different? If people did you do different
45:21
things in there? What what happened in your
45:23
world? I mean you you become close to
45:29
people so you have, you know I mean you run around with a group
45:33
of guys but they become your brother's become your friends.
45:37
So I didn't stop hanging out with people it.
45:42
I still just I feel hung out with people but it was to a
45:46
minimum and I would hang out. Go read works.
45:50
I just had to just do a lot of what you were and reading a lot.
45:55
Yeah, exactly. And and I was just a, you know,
45:59
stay busy throughout the day and and that's how I did the time.
46:07
So Danny, when you got closer to the door, did you start thinking
46:12
about, you know, you're reading all the greats, you know, for
46:15
creating business? What did you start thinking?
46:19
I'm going to do something when I get out, that's much different
46:22
than one. I came in.
46:24
Like, did you start Formulating in your mind, something's going
46:28
to happen. I I did, but I didn't K-Ci, you
46:38
know, I'm like well I'm going to open up a business or I want to
46:40
do a business and I want to do this but I really didn't have
46:43
like a business plan or like an actual business that I wanted
46:48
but I don't have to read all this stuff you're like hey what
46:51
you want to do certain things? But I remember a friend of mine
46:55
in there he's like you should get into real estate and I'm
46:58
like, well, what's Real Estate? Again, any, you know, we will be
47:02
walking the yard and he'll be telling me.
47:03
Yeah, you know, when I was out I was buying houses and then, you
47:06
know, he was buying the houses of other drug money.
47:08
So he would educate me on what a real estate agent was broker
47:12
mortgage lender and I didn't know anything.
47:15
I don't know what agent was. I didn't know what a broker was.
47:17
I didn't know anything about real estate.
47:20
So I'm like okay well that seems pretty cool.
47:23
That sounds like real estate seems pretty good, everyone does
47:25
Real Estate. So I'm like I want to get into
47:26
real estate. So I still didn't know what type
47:29
of Real Estate. I wanted to get into.
47:31
Yeah I just said I'm going to give a real estate and and I my
47:34
wife would you would you real estate?
47:37
So, you finally get to that point after all this time,
47:41
you're in there. Tell me about the day you walk
47:43
out. So, all I wanted was a coffee.
47:56
A Frappuccino from Starbucks. Okay, so my mom picked my mom
48:01
picks me up at the at the bus station.
48:03
I'm supposed to take the bus to the halfway house, so I had like
48:06
12 hours to get there. My mom picks me up and then I'm
48:10
so, you know, we I get like seven, you know, like 78 hours
48:13
to mess around before I go to the halfway house and turn
48:16
myself. And so I'm like, take me to I
48:20
wanted a pizza and I wanted like a Pacino and I got like a
48:22
caramel frappuccino and and that was the first place I went, when
48:26
I got out, I wanted a nice coffee.
48:29
And then from there, my mom took me to my house to our old house
48:34
and I told her I did not want, I didn't want anyone there.
48:37
I didn't want to see anybody and you know, Mom not knowing any
48:42
better. And knowing what I know now is
48:45
that I had a huge panic attack going back to the same house,
48:50
seeing all these people. People seeing stuff in the house
48:53
that didn't change seeing people, that just looked older
48:57
and heavier and that we're growing up and I'm like, what
49:00
the heck? It felt like a movie and I big
49:04
big, big panic attack and I started just hyperventilating
49:08
because I'm like, I don't want to be around anybody.
49:10
And everybody was freaking out there like, what's wrong with
49:13
them? Does he not want us here?
49:14
Yeah, and it wasn't them. It was me.
49:17
Yeah. I wasn't ready to see all those
49:20
people. I didn't want to see all those
49:21
people even though I love my family and everybody I didn't
49:23
want to see anybody. Yeah.
49:26
That's interesting. And, you know, the thing that I
49:29
think about all of that is is that you desperately want out
49:33
and there's nothing better about getting out.
49:34
But it's so hard to adjust. I always say it's like jumping
49:39
in a moving car. All these things have changed
49:41
and everybody's looking at you or you the same.
49:44
Is he different? Is he some kind of prison
49:46
creature, you know, all these things that you're thinking in
49:48
your head? You like, what am I going to do?
49:50
How am I going to live? What are, what about?
49:51
How I'm going to get a job? I got to go to the, I gotta go
49:53
to this halfway house. I hope that, you know, All these
49:56
things are just rushing all at once and you feel like
50:01
everybody's looking at. Gosh he's got to be so happy.
50:03
Absolutely, absolutely. But there's a thousand things
50:06
going on in your head about how do I get back into life.
50:10
Exactly. Exactly.
50:12
And you mind you, I was so young.
50:15
I didn't have an email. I didn't know how to email.
50:18
I didn't know how to ride a bus. I didn't know how to text
50:20
somebody. I never doubted that.
50:22
All I was was I ran around the streets all day.
50:25
I see. Old drugs.
50:26
I and I partied. And that's all I did.
50:28
I didn't know anything. So coming out was extremely hard
50:32
because I was like a baby trying to learn how to do all this
50:36
stuff. Yeah.
50:37
It's like put a baby at high school level.
50:41
Yeah, exactly it. And I didn't think about that
50:44
though. That is really good point, you
50:45
know, all the technology when you went in has advanced so far,
50:50
you know, and that time period that you were in, you know,
50:53
that. That was the time period where
50:54
everything happened. And what was that?
50:57
Like, getting back into that. It was very, very hard for me.
51:02
Because I remember like people try.
51:06
I didn't know how to dress. Yeah.
51:08
I didn't know how to buy clothes.
51:10
I, I didn't know how to sign up for an email.
51:14
I didn't know how to do a resume.
51:18
I never work. So, like as a man, like how do
51:21
you upload a resume? I would, I would go to dinner
51:26
with for. I didn't know how to order from
51:27
the menu. People would take me out.
51:30
I didn't know how to present myself at the restaurant because
51:33
they're like, you have to have your, you know, like I didn't
51:36
know what to do. Any of that people have to,
51:38
like, teach me how to be, like normal, and, and it was very
51:45
hard for me. And when I was in prison, I
51:48
didn't understand why it was so easy to come back till I got out
51:54
and I realized how easy it was to go back because it was so
51:59
hard. Are doubt here and I would break
52:00
down. I would, I would literally break
52:02
down and cry because I was trying to get this shit together
52:05
out here and nothing worked. Nothing worked.
52:08
I think it's so good for people to hear that because it's such a
52:12
Common Thread. And, you know, a lot of people
52:14
who've been to prison, they think, you know, does anybody
52:16
understand? And what you just said, Danny,
52:19
that is those are the emotions and those are the feelings.
52:24
I didn't know how to have a girlfriend.
52:26
I didn't know how to date. Yeah.
52:28
I don't know how to like anything.
52:30
I was a baby. So, how did you?
52:34
How did you start stepping into what you were?
52:37
Who you are now? So, It's all environment.
52:43
It comes back, we started with environment.
52:46
It I met somebody, a good friend of mine to this day and mine.
52:53
I didn't know about social media.
52:54
I didn't know about Facebook, Instagram and I found somebody
53:01
threw on Instagram, you know, Kevin Sturtevant from case, real
53:04
estate out in Orange County, I found them on Instagram and he
53:09
posted a photo of his dad that did federal time.
53:12
So there was what a rapport sure.
53:14
Hey, your dad did time? I did time.
53:17
I'm I want to get in the business and he gave me a shot
53:22
to work for him. Cool.
53:23
And then from there, he just expose me so much stuff and
53:30
people and seminars that I took the route to go into those
53:36
different directions. And then, yeah, that's a lot
53:40
easier said than done to you because all those things you
53:42
were stepping into, you didn't know.
53:43
I mean, those are the things, you know, we call this nightmare
53:48
success because, you know, anything that you want, you have
53:50
to step through your fears, your nightmares, to get to where you
53:53
want to go. And that means, you're stepping
53:54
out of your comfort zone, to kind of set yourself free, but
53:58
it's not easy because everything that you were doing Danny, you
54:01
found somebody that was a mentor, but you had to step into
54:05
all the unknown. All the unknown.
54:09
Exactly, exactly. And I didn't know how to dress,
54:13
you said, you can't come here, like, you got it.
54:14
Like, you know, you got to be like, for fashion on some well,
54:16
like, you know, I didn't know, I didn't know how to tell, you
54:18
know, how to do anything, it was so crazy, and it's not easy to
54:21
get licensed as an ex-felon. How did you, how did you work,
54:25
your world around that? So and it goes back to when I
54:30
was a kid, I always had an ambition to do.
54:32
You do something with my life? I just didn't have the
54:34
direction. So now I had, you know, I'm 26
54:40
27 at the time, I feel like I know so much from this material
54:44
that I read, right? I'm like all right I can't do
54:46
all this. I didn't know anything.
54:47
I still don't know anything. Right.
54:49
What so I'm hungry I'm driven I'm showing up to this, you
54:55
know, to his office and working and I'm I'm being his assistant
55:00
and I apply for my real estate license.
55:02
And Well, they denied me. They said, no, you're on parole
55:09
or probation probation and you have a felony.
55:13
They said, just come back when you're done.
55:17
I'm like when I'm done that's five years of probation, I'm
55:20
doing. I did I did all five years.
55:23
I didn't get any breaks. So I'm like, no.
55:26
And then I would and and I would get tonight and then I would
55:30
appeal and it was a lie. August. 15, 16 months fighting
55:39
for my license. But this is where the mindset.
55:44
This is where everything that I've been.
55:47
That I was probably doing when I was a little kid.
55:49
I just didn't know. I started visualizing.
55:51
Yeah. And and visualizing house and to
55:55
get this real estate license how it was going to happen, how it
55:58
felt when you happen to experience the experience of
56:02
happiness in it. Yeah.
56:03
And I got a I went To the Department of real estate.
56:07
They denied me, they interviewed me.
56:09
And the most important thing is that they wanted to see that.
56:12
I took a hundred percent responsibility for what I did.
56:17
So I had to do an interview with them, then they come back and
56:20
they and they give an approval for the commissioner and they
56:23
say either, yes, or no. So, I went in front of a judge,
56:26
the commissioner and, and it took me about maybe three or
56:31
four hours, he asked me to walk me, walk him through my Life
56:37
from when I just when I started doing crying to that day.
56:42
Well and I remember going in and out and he's and I could I would
56:46
be crying. I was getting emotional from the
56:48
past it would say go get some water come back in.
56:53
And I had to present my case. And then at the time like I'm
56:58
getting stuff in the mail there like will represent you for like
57:01
ten thousand dollars to fight your real estate license.
57:04
I'm like details like where am I gonna get ten thousand dollars
57:06
right? And I was I remember being
57:08
stressed stressed out and then at some point I'm like, you know
57:12
what? No one knows my story better
57:14
than myself, exactly. so that took about 15 months and then
57:21
when I went to the commissioner, I presented my case and And I
57:27
took and I you know, showed him that I took responsibility and
57:31
the lady, the, I don't know who you'd call it on the, on the
57:35
other side, that what that would?
57:36
Their job was to deny me. Yeah, she just said, hey, I
57:40
Irene, I never forget. That is she's like, I wish you
57:44
the best of luck. She didn't even, she wasn't even
57:46
going to go against it so and every everything was a few
57:50
months, everything was a waiting game.
57:53
So after that day, I don't know about going to get my life.
57:57
I didn't know, I still had a goal through him and they said,
58:00
okay, we're going to mail you something.
58:01
We'll let you know if you're going to get your license.
58:04
So I just had faith and, you know, the blessings come from
58:08
God and I just had faith and I just in my head visualize
58:12
howling to get my license that my mom wasn't to call me that
58:15
something came in the mail and that they're going to say that I
58:18
got my real estate license. January 2015, I got my real
58:22
estate license on federal probation.
58:24
Wow. Wow.
58:26
On federal probation, unheard of unheard of I'm heard of two
58:32
years to three years into probation all about mindset that
58:37
my real estate license. Yeah.
58:41
Okay, so and that you but I mean, from reading about you
58:45
Danny, you between then, and now you can you walk us through your
58:50
world? Like what has happened with you?
58:53
Is it, you can Google you and sees you you've really done well
58:57
and the LA Market. What walk us through what's
59:00
going on with you. So it it's been an 18 year
59:06
Journey. Yeah.
59:09
You're 37 38 now, right? I'm 37.
59:13
Yeah, but I went through a lot of different stages because when
59:17
I got out, what did I want to do?
59:18
I wanted to party. Sure, I wanted to go out and
59:20
hang out, I wanted a drink, I wanted to be and then I was 27
59:25
out here in the physical world, but I was 18 in my absolutely
59:28
sure. So, I went through different
59:31
stages and how you do, anything, is how you do.
59:34
One thing is how you do everything.
59:35
So in order to be successful in real estate, I had to be
59:38
successful. My purse.
59:39
In life, right? So, it took me many years.
59:43
It took me a really long time to clean up my, my, my crap to
59:49
where I'm at today because I, you know, I would drink I would
59:53
party and then I, if I was gonna do this the right way, but I was
59:58
going to be successful in my life.
1:00:01
I had to if God was going to bless me with the money, the
1:00:05
find it, the maquette everything that he has blessed me with.
1:00:09
I had I wasn't ready for it. And so like it took me years to
1:00:12
be ready as a young man as a responsible young man to
1:00:20
receive. Yeah. and Ed went, once I
1:00:27
started grasping that I started just having huge growth in
1:00:35
business, personal life from, you know, just regular real
1:00:40
estate sales to now doing personal million dollar spread
1:00:46
Investments. And it was all school like real
1:00:51
estate was school for me. It's still school for me.
1:00:54
I was learning from from investors.
1:00:57
I was learning. Like it was it's just been so
1:01:00
fun and amazing to be on this journey, you know, and to know
1:01:05
about creating well then owning passive real estate like, know
1:01:10
any of that. It's just insane.
1:01:14
But you know the thing that's so cool about it.
1:01:16
Danny is you you just kept stepping into learning and I'm
1:01:22
sure when you did that and you got some a little bit of
1:01:24
success. You know, that gave you more
1:01:26
confidence and then you just kept taking those steps getting
1:01:30
more confidence and you know where you are now.
1:01:33
I mean it's you know I would have some success.
1:01:37
Yeah. And then everything will go back
1:01:39
to zero. Yeah.
1:01:41
I would have some success and then all of a sudden the bank
1:01:43
accounts empty. Yeah.
1:01:45
And I went through that through roller coaster.
1:01:49
Here's, you know, to I found an amazing wife.
1:01:55
There you go. Yeah, be a faithful husband.
1:02:01
And And that. And that's Why I'm here today
1:02:06
because I have someone strong behind me but it's just, you
1:02:11
know, I wasn't ready for all that wasn't ready for it.
1:02:14
I wouldn't I would like do good but I wasn't really doing good.
1:02:17
I was just making money partying and it's just like it was just
1:02:21
all and you know, now I don't drink, I don't it's just like
1:02:24
it's just we're four more so you just put it all together, you
1:02:29
know? And it came to you and pieces.
1:02:30
But the thing that I think is something that everybody can
1:02:33
learn from is that a lot of people can have those success
1:02:38
pieces that you're talking about and then they'll have a downturn
1:02:41
and but they give up on it. You can't give up on it.
1:02:44
You got to stay tenacious with it.
1:02:46
And have the what you were talking about the mindset that
1:02:50
I'm going to make this happen. I might have a setback but I'm
1:02:53
not giving up on myself. What's what's happened with you?
1:02:57
Danny reason why? Your story is so fascinating.
1:03:00
Is that you could have given up on yourself with the 10-year
1:03:03
sentence, you could be back The streets, living that life and
1:03:08
that day that you came back, you would have just gotten back with
1:03:11
everybody. And even though you were 27 and
1:03:16
an 18 year old mine, you figured it out how to get out of that
1:03:20
and and then who you are now and how you've been able to thrive
1:03:23
as a business and a world that stuff I mean real estates not
1:03:27
easy. I mean you know if it's just not
1:03:31
especially if you don't have a big foundation of, you know, all
1:03:35
These referrals and all the things that come with, that you
1:03:39
started from scratch and entered that world and created your own
1:03:43
little mini Empire of of what you had in your mind created and
1:03:47
that's everybody like and I told you this before I get, there is
1:03:51
so excited to talk to you. Is everybody loves a good
1:03:53
comeback story because what it does is it gives everybody hope.
1:03:58
Everybody has built up prisons in their own mind.
1:04:02
The question is, how do you knock him down?
1:04:03
How do you get through them? Because It's all relative.
1:04:07
You know, everybody gets stuck. It's what you do when you get
1:04:10
stuck and one of the things I think to is that you, when you
1:04:13
were not even thinking, I'm not going to change.
1:04:16
You started reading books where you saw change was possible.
1:04:20
And, you know, possibilities is where the mind starts to imagine
1:04:24
and grow is what whether that's hope or possibilities, or
1:04:28
whatever that is, that's what fuels your mind and and I can
1:04:32
just see it in your eyes. When you told you talk about it,
1:04:34
I can just see See that you've got that whatever that is that
1:04:38
intangible thing. You've attached yourself to it.
1:04:43
Exactly. I created this person.
1:04:45
Yes, and he was always there. I mean I'm sure you were a
1:04:49
leader and person that people, you know, thought had thoughts
1:04:56
of leadership and and and and smarts and all those different
1:05:01
things. It's just that you've applied it
1:05:02
in a way. Now, that is really rewarding.
1:05:05
Exactly, exactly. So if you think about this
1:05:10
Danny, I always ask people. This is, what do you think of
1:05:15
everything that you've been through?
1:05:16
Because you've been through so much and it's varied so much all
1:05:19
through your life. What would be your biggest
1:05:23
takeaway through your journey to the listeners out there?
1:05:28
You nailed it right there and and I've been very discreet
1:05:33
about my background because I'm in real estate and you have to
1:05:36
be professional but I am who I am and I'm an honest guy.
1:05:43
That has integrity and does things right way.
1:05:46
So but you nailed it is you saying that I have to get out of
1:05:50
myself and understand that this is not about me.
1:05:54
This is about serving and this is about being a contribution to
1:05:57
the the world to let everyone know that anything is possible.
1:06:00
And not only that is that so many people out here are in
1:06:03
prison in this world out here that they're stuck in their head
1:06:08
and and the blessing that we able to give these people hope
1:06:13
and Inspire them and know that anything is really possible out
1:06:17
here. Yeah and you do that Danny
1:06:20
there. Your story does that when we
1:06:21
first talked on the phone that you told me that you felt like
1:06:25
the timing was right and Worry like yours.
1:06:28
There's no reason to stand away from it, your story of how
1:06:32
you've made your world. The way it is is very inspiring,
1:06:38
it's very inspiring for and this this this podcast goes into 200
1:06:43
prisons on 700,000 tablets and that's why I'm so excited about
1:06:48
with your story is is these guys that are listening to this on
1:06:51
adobo platform, they hear this and say, okay, well maybe I
1:06:55
don't catch that extra charge, you know?
1:06:58
You know, the extra 10 years or five years or whatever, I can
1:07:00
get out, I can make a difference.
1:07:02
I need to get set and it's not going to be easy when I get out,
1:07:05
but I can make it. And that's, that's, that's a big
1:07:07
deal. It's a big deal.
1:07:09
Your story makes a big deal. It's a big mix.
1:07:11
It's a Difference Maker. And that's amazing.
1:07:14
I didn't know that it goes into the prison because that would
1:07:18
give so many people hope because It's hard, it's hard.
1:07:26
Like, if I go back it was easy. But if I walk you through this,
1:07:30
it was freaking hard. Yeah.
1:07:34
And no to know if I was in that jail cell right now on that cell
1:07:39
and I listen to myself and be like, man, I would have so much
1:07:44
hope to know that there's a chance after this sentence,
1:07:48
right? The light is the end of the
1:07:50
tunnel is not a train. It's true.
1:07:52
Hope. That's amazing.
1:07:55
Yeah, well Danny, I love your story, I love that.
1:08:00
You have picked this time in your life, to feel comfortable
1:08:05
in sharing this story because I think it affects people, or they
1:08:08
gone to prison, or they have gone to prison.
1:08:10
People need to feel that. Whatever that is inside, that
1:08:14
maybe I can do this, maybe I can make this happen.
1:08:17
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