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When Faith Outruns Your Foundation · The Chaplain's Corner

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  SPEAKER_00: Hello friend, Chaplain Terry Warner here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hope you're having a good day.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to take a few minutes and talk with you face to face the best I can with a camera on and a headset on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today is march thirtieth, 2026.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I want to get everything going in the right direction.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am a teacher.
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  SPEAKER_00: I call myself a chaplain.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been anointed and ordained as a chaplain, and I call myself a teacher and a chaplain.
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  SPEAKER_00: I use those words interchangeably.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a prophet, but occasionally I get to prophesy.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a seer or anybody special.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm just a plain old common man that has desires and makes mistakes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then I am forgiven.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was sitting in church one Sunday morning with my family.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was a big denominational church, and the Lord spoke to me and said, I have called you into the ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: He used Isaiah 58, verses 6 through 14.
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  SPEAKER_00: But by the way, this would have been in 1972, late 72.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had been seeking the Lord and I was really happy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And after hearing that, the first thing I did was say, I accept Lord.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm ready to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: I jumped up, enrolled in seminary, and started reading the Bible and started studying and organizing my life and my family and getting all of us in agreement with serving God.
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  SPEAKER_00: When Arlene and I got married, we had decided that we would do it right and do it God's way, and we were in agreement with that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we decided to raise the children and raise our family serving God, one of the best decisions I ever made.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had started following and kept reading and studying the word, and I had worked my way up to where I was assisting in services.
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  SPEAKER_00: We had the minister and I would fill in as assistant.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got to do the prayers and lead the singing, not the singing per se, but introduce the songs, take up collection, and other necessary tasks to make the service run smoothly.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got to sit in on counseling meetings with the pastor and board meetings with the pastor, and that worked out really good.
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  SPEAKER_00: One day I was mowing the grass and my glasses fell off my face because I was sweating and I mowed them over.
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  SPEAKER_00: I rolled on them with the lawnmower, stepped on them, ruining the glasses.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, they were not wearable after that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I also started noticing that I could see well enough that I didn't need them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And at that time I didn't need to I didn't connect the dots.
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  SPEAKER_00: I went to a retreat that weekend and was encouraged to see the optometrist and make sure I was healed from wearing glasses.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I called the doctor, made an eye appointment, and went and saw the optometrist.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sure enough, the eye doctor said, Well, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Warner, I don't know what happened, but whatever happened, you need to keep doing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I said, Well, the Lord healed my eyes, and he said, That's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was happying to get my eyes healed.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when I presented that miracle to the church that they were going to about this miracle, they viewed with skepticism.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was able to prove with the eye, doctor, report that it was legitimate.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't faking it, so to speak.
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  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of them said, Well, it's probably temporary, and I will be needing the glasses in a few days.
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  SPEAKER_00: But they had a hard time accepting it, and instead of being joyous, they were perplexed and confused.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't mean to say that, that I insisted on healing them to mess them up, or you know, be critical of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was a bona fide miracle that they had to deal with and they were having trouble.
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  SPEAKER_00: How about some bona fide miracles in your life that you just swept under the rug because you didn't want to deal with it, because you didn't understand it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well anyway, the charismatic movement was coming in about that time, and they asked us to leave politely.
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  SPEAKER_00: We left that church.
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  SPEAKER_00: There wasn't any knockdown, drag out, fight or circumstances, but they just were cold to our reception, and so we left and we started going to other churches.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then the Lord had shown me that my ministry would be going to churches that were about to split as a mediator and try to keep them from splitting and show them in the scripture certain things to get into the charismatic movement.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of them was just ignorant of scriptures and not uh situated or not able to handle that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well uh from that moment on, the Lord started using me, and my Bible studies had miracles, healings, and charismatic uh operation of the gifts.
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  SPEAKER_00: I quit my cemetery seminary, which was an indoctrination course instead of seminary, with that and with teaching Bible, and I'm new, I'm learning, and I'm just devouring the word and had a good successful time teaching and everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Lord blessed this ministry with signs and healing miracles.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was started in 1973.
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  SPEAKER_00: Still in in effect today.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna tell you about one such encounter.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was working at a refrigeration warehouse, wholesale house, and my mentor who worked with me was the outside salesman.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now I didn't know he was my mentor.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I'm convinced that God provided the specific man to teach me how to minister to his believers.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was the inside salesman or the counterman, and then we had a boss, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ritchie.
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  SPEAKER_00: We dearly loved each other, and all of us were Christian, but I was new.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was the new kid on the block, and Ray was my mentor who taught me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ray Harness was his name.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's passed away now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lovely family, lovely man, oh what a man of God.
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  SPEAKER_00: You could ask him what the Bible says about this and that, and he'd quote a verse in scripture.
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  SPEAKER_00: So neat, like having a walking concordance.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, mister Richie told me to unload the refrigerant drums and put them in the back sentrae.
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  SPEAKER_00: He wasn't there to do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well I thought that was beneath me, and it made me mad.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it shouldn't have.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just made me mad.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I stacked these hundred pound drums in the refrigerant three eyes, so nobody could get them down except me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was the main man.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, on the last barrel I hurt my back, and I mean hurt it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ray came back in and filled it in me and went home, and filled in for me and went home.
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  SPEAKER_00: I lived on Trickle Drive in Colorado Springs and there was a chiropractor just across the house, just across the street from the house that we were in.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was in a small mall.
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  SPEAKER_00: I called over and got an appointment to see the chiropractor because I had a Bible study going on that night, and there was no way I could go to the Bible study in my condition.
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  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't drive, I could hardly walk.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was all I could do to get across that street.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I went over to the chiropractor's office, and he came in and ran me through some tests, ran a machine up and down my back spine and everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: Finally he called me into his office and he said, Well, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Warner, we can repair your back.
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  SPEAKER_00: You've strained it and you've pulled a muscle, but we can fix it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it'll take about eight to ten treatments, and you're looking at thirty-five to forty dollars of treatment.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is back in the old days.
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  SPEAKER_00: As I sat there a minute and I thought to myself, I'm talking$300 to$400,$450.
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  SPEAKER_00: I cannot afford to do this.
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  SPEAKER_00: I cannot do this.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he says, there'll be, so he said, What will it be?
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  SPEAKER_00: What would you like to do?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I said, I tell you what, Doc, I was fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm fine now.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you told me how much it was going to cost, the Lord healed me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I received my healing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I used the contact amount as my faith point, and I accept that as my Lord Jesus, as my Lord Jesus and Savior, and I'm healed in the name of Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll see you later.
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  SPEAKER_00: Send me a bill for what I did today.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I got up and I started hobbling out the office down the hallway.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was chasing me saying, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Warner, come back, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Warner, come back.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I kept hollering, I'm healed, I'm healed, I'm healed in the name of Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you tell me how much it was, the Lord heal me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm healed in the name of Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well you can imagine the commotion and the looks from the people in the waiting room as I ran out the door, actually hobbled out the door, and hobbled across the street house, and went back in the house and fell face down on the bed and said, Oh Lord, I have so messed up.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you'll forgive me and cleanse me of all unrighteousness and heal me, I will fix the refrigerant drums when I go back to work Monday, and that was a Friday.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I go back to work Monday, I'll fix all that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll apologize to Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ritchie, and I'll apologize to you, and I am accept I am doing that right now, and I accept whatever punishment I have coming.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the Lord said, You don't need to take punishment.
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  SPEAKER_00: You repented, you asked for forgiveness, you've been forgiven, and by my name I have healed you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I fell asleep at that time, woke up two hours later, got dressed, cleaned up, made myself presentable, and went to my Bible study, and the Lord performed miracles and teachings that I cannot do on my own.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jesus is Lord.
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  SPEAKER_00: I still see that chiropractor to this day in my mind, chasing me down the hallway and then going through the waiting room.
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  SPEAKER_00: For months I got letters and flyers come back, come back.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can fix this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Come back.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I never saw him again after that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I probably should have gone back and said that see Doc, I'm fixed, but I didn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: I learned my lesson.
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  SPEAKER_00: I said all that, I wanted to say this.
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  SPEAKER_00: God called me into the ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was excited and I was ready to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I jumped out and I went one hundred percent full bore.
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  SPEAKER_00: The trouble was I didn't have the foundation to build on, and I hadn't been in the Word long enough to get any kind of authority in it at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: I needed to be taught, not trying to teach others.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got out in front of God.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my question to you today, are you happy that the Lord picked you?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure you are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did you jump out and get in front of God?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure some of us have.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you didn't, I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I also too, that doesn't mean to say a one time deal.
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  SPEAKER_00: It seems like I do that quite frequently.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's just the way I am, a type A personality.
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  SPEAKER_00: What can I say?
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  SPEAKER_00: But I was created the way I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I can fine tune it by studying the word and improve on myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can deteriorate it by studying the devil and doing the works of the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Day before yesterday I saw a notice that said a particular individual's initials are uh he's a big in the politics.
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  SPEAKER_00: E initials are EM said that he was throwing down the gauntlet in front of Trump and he was going to go they were going to split friends.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, yeah, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then this morning on a particular social platform, I saw where they had had had a skirmish, not physical, mental skirmish, but a mental skirmish.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he got rid of a bunch of IRS agents.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I realized that even though we try to say we know it, things are being orchestrated and set forth and put into motion by spirits, by spiritual forces that we don't deal with.
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  SPEAKER_00: We deal with the physical forces.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying that's good.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm saying we tend to deal with physical forces, and that's what's behind the spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: When the spirit is behind the physical forces.
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  SPEAKER_00: I listened to a particular prophet, last name starts with a Z, and he wants us all the time to keep looking at the little news behind the big news.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I found out the other day on a side note, that the world's wealth is controlled by eight individuals, that the average man in person in the world lives on less than two dollars a day.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look at the spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do not look at the person.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do not look at the man.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was reading the story of David and Goliath and Saul.
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  SPEAKER_00: Saul was appointed king and it went to his head.
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  SPEAKER_00: He jumped out and he got in front of the Lord, and he started doing things for the Lord.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he had even though he had a good heart and he had good reason and he wanted to do good, but he wasn't the one doing what the Lord told him to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my question to you today is, are you happy?
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  SPEAKER_00: Are you doing good?
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  SPEAKER_00: Are you doing what the Lord wants you to do?
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  SPEAKER_00: If not, why not?
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  SPEAKER_00: And if when, when are you going to dedicate your life and get serious about serving Jesus and doing what he wants done?
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  SPEAKER_00: This wasn't my idea of a podcast this morning.
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  SPEAKER_00: This was God's.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I feel so much better, but at the same time I get butterflies, I get nervous, I get to shaking, I get worried and upset and think about this or think about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm not used to operating in the spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm used to operating in the flesh.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I hate to admit it, but it seems like I do better in the flesh a lot of times than I do in the spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't hate to admit it, but it seems like I do better in the flesh.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just because you have a fender bender or a wreck in a car, you don't quit driving just because you go you don't quit driving.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just because you go to church doesn't make you a Christian.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just because you're in a garage doesn't make you a car.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or just because you wear the pastoral clothes and being set apart mean doesn't mean you're in God's perfect will.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's time to stop what you're doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Put the brakes on and get in God's perfect will.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: I hope this podcast spoke to you, and I want to say we're going to go a little more on David and Goliath, because I have a lot of insight on that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been studying it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I recommend that you get first Samuel and study this about Saul and David and see what transpires.
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  SPEAKER_00: That David was a man after God's own heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are you are you a moment after God's own heart?
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope so.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have a blessed day in Jesus' name.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'll see you next time and maybe finish up this testimony.
• 16:24
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• 16:38
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• 17:02
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  SPEAKER_00: Or let me know how you want you need the Lord to do in your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you have a blessed day in Jesus' name.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you're going out and you're coming in, and you're laying down, laying down, and you're rising up, and your tears, and your laughter, and your joy, and your sorrow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jesus is Lord, and as long as you keep that first and foremost, you will be in victory.
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  SPEAKER_00: See you later.
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  SPEAKER_00: God bless you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amen.