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Oops!, I Scammed You Again_ The Britney Spears' Conservatorship w Tess Barker (Fraud Friday) · Scam Goddess

• 0:19
  Speaker 1: What's poppin' congregation? Ooh, do we have a tasty treat
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: for you today? Welcome back to Scam Goddess. It's me,
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  Speaker 1: Lacey Mosley, a.k.a. Scam Goddess, the show that's all about
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  Speaker 1: fraud and usually cheering for it. Maybe not today, though.
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  Speaker 2: So today I'm very, yes, yes, excited. I'm going to
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: switch it up on y'all in a little bit. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to say that anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I like it.
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  Speaker 2: But I really am excited today. We have two amazing
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  Speaker 2: guests for you.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, double the pleasure, double the fun. Tess Barker
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  Speaker 1: and Babs Gray.
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  Speaker 2: They're comedians, writers, and podcasters who launched the podcast Britney's
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  Speaker 2: Gram in 2017, which kicked off.
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  Speaker 1: The international free Britney movement.
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  Speaker 2: Together, they co-host the podcast Toxic, the Britney Spears story,
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  Speaker 2: and the Lady to Lady podcast, which I have been on.
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  Speaker 2: It's very fun, along with Brandy Posey. Also, check out Babs'
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  Speaker 2: first stand-up album called.
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  Speaker 1: If I did.
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  Speaker 2: Available to buy or stream now. Get on the interwebs. Congregation,
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  Speaker 2: welcome Tess Barker and Babs Gray to the show.
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  Speaker 1: Hey. Hi, Lacey.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. So excited to be here.
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  Speaker 4: So excited.
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  Speaker 1: How are you ladies doing? Doing great.
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  Speaker 4: You know, kind of riding high. We got some good
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  Speaker 4: Britney news this week. The pumpkin spice smoothie is back
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  Speaker 4: at Jamba Juice. So I'm having a pretty good day.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Pumpkin spice smoothie? Yeah. Smoothie? Yeah, yes.
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  Speaker 4: And it is way, it's exactly what you think it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's a milkshake. It's just a milkshake.
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  Speaker 4: But they have the new one they.
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  Speaker 1: Have with oat milk.
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  Speaker 4: So it's dairy free.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, never mind. It's a smoothie. It's a smoothie.
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  Speaker 4: It's a smoothie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, okay. Look, I was about to say, like,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I need to get one of those.
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  Speaker 2: Do I turn into a white woman instantly after I
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  Speaker 2: take a first sip?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's how it works. That is.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you take a first sip and then you're rude
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  Speaker 4: to the cashier right away. So.
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  Speaker 1: Love it. Yeah. I'm like, now I'm calling cops on
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  Speaker 1: people in the job. Just one sip. No, I love it. Okay, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I have to ask first, before we get into
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  Speaker 2: our first segment, we'll start with you, Babs.
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  Speaker 1: Like, what's your relationship with scams? Have you ever been scammed?
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  Speaker 1: Do you like them? Do you hate them? Like, what's
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  Speaker 1: your vibe?
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  Speaker 3: I have to say, shockingly, never been scammed, which I
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  Speaker 3: cannot believe. I think that I know that I'm easily scammable,
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  Speaker 3: so I avoid scam situations in general, but Like Scientology,
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  Speaker 3: I can't go in that building because I will become
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  Speaker 3: a Scientologist. You know what I mean? So I think
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  Speaker 3: I know how to stay away. But yeah, I like scams.
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  Speaker 1: I like them.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm looking at true crime, scams are my favorite
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  Speaker 3: kind because murder, that's a little too much for me.
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  Speaker 3: That's a little too gory. Scams, they're inventive.
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  Speaker 1: It's a puzzle.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's, you know, I'm a fan of them. Generally.
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  Speaker 1: Generally. Maybe not today's episode, but generally. Yes. Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: get that.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I feel like I could go in the Scientology building,
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  Speaker 2: but they wouldn't like me because they would know I
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  Speaker 2: would just be in there being a voyeur. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: trying to see where Xenom at, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Like, I'm trying to get on the boat. They still
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  Speaker 1: doing sea work. That's a cruise.
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  Speaker 4: Is there mimosas on the boat? I might be down.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I heard they have a brunch. So I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what's popping with this brunch? I get free brunch. Y'all
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  Speaker 1: get to talk to me about... Elrond. Like, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I love me some Elrond. Just kidding. I don't.
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  Speaker 2: But I would get kicked out of Scientology. I'd go
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  Speaker 2: on the Sea Org. You're supposed to work on that boat.
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  Speaker 2: I would definitely just be.
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  Speaker 1: In there chilling. They're like, Lacey, you're not contributing.
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  Speaker 3: You're not going to be one of the people like
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  Speaker 3: riding around on a bicycle in Hollywood, kind of like
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  Speaker 3: spreading the good word.
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They stand on the corner and they really be working
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  Speaker 2: them corners hard. OK, pretty woman ain't got shit on Scientology. OK,
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  Speaker 2: they out there showing a little leg. They like y'all
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  Speaker 2: gonna get with Xenom or else.
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  Speaker 4: And they all are just joylessly smoking cigarettes all the time.
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  Speaker 4: They're the last people in Los Angeles that smoke.
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  Speaker 3: I this is all the reasons why I have to
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  Speaker 3: avoid her because it sounds I want in and I
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  Speaker 3: know it. It's a scam.
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  Speaker 2: We just see Babs on the corner with like a
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  Speaker 2: fistful of cigarettes wearing like a button down with a
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  Speaker 2: clip on tie.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be wearing a clip-on tie with the pretty woman
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  Speaker 3: dress with the circle thing in the middle. Just like
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  Speaker 3: a combo.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll post on the Scam Goddess Instagram. I did
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  Speaker 2: a bit where I was just in front of the
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  Speaker 2: Scientology building harassing people.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny, though.
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  Speaker 2: It's not mean, but it's insane. But wait, so Tess,
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  Speaker 2: what is your relationship with scams? I cannot believe Babs
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  Speaker 2: has never been scammed. You are my unicorn. I get
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  Speaker 2: scammed all the time. And I host a show called
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  Speaker 2: Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: You would think. I mean, I probably, maybe I haven't.
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  Speaker 3: I just didn't know. I've certainly dated a lot of
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  Speaker 3: pieces of shit, but I don't think I've ever lost money.
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  Speaker 3: I've never lost money from it aside from like paying
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  Speaker 3: for their dinners and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Look, I pay for some dinners, too. Cishet
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  Speaker 1: men are a scam, okay? They are.
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  Speaker 3: In general, we know that already.
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  Speaker 1: A robbery. And you know that. It's like you go
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  Speaker 1: in and you know you're going to get robbed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like buying a beer at a Dodger game.
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  Speaker 4: I know it's a ripoff.
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  Speaker 1: I won't lie.
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  Speaker 2: You know it's a ripoff, but you still want it.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly how I feel. Like, if a man
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  Speaker 2: stays in my house and, like, we've been dating or something, like,
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  Speaker 2: I still wake up, even if we've been dating for
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  Speaker 2: a while, and I'll check my purse and make sure
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  Speaker 2: all the contents are there when they leave. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: if a woman stays with me, like, I'm not checking
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  Speaker 2: for that. I'm like, this is fine. But if a
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  Speaker 2: man's there, I'm like, let me make sure this nigga
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  Speaker 2: didn't rob me.
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  Speaker 1: Before he leaves. But Tess, what is your relationship with scams?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I have a multifaceted relationship with scams. I love
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  Speaker 4: scams in terms of acting them out. I'm a really
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  Speaker 4: good scammer.
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  Speaker 1: Acting them out.
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  Speaker 2: That is the best version of I'm a scammer I've
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  Speaker 2: ever heard.
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  Speaker 1: It was so artistic. You know, I love scams. I
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  Speaker 1: love performing them.
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  Speaker 4: And it is my best scams. I've always been very
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  Speaker 4: good at calling in sick to work or school. And
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  Speaker 4: I do, when I say act them out, I do
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  Speaker 4: act them out. Like you, the people don't realize if
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  Speaker 4: you're calling in sick, lay down. They can tell if
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  Speaker 4: you're laying down or standing up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, are y'all listening?
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  Speaker 3: That is a great tip.
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  Speaker 1: Tess is laying down tips. Write the book, Tess. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta lay down. Okay, so you gotta lay down. Lay down.
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  Speaker 4: Here's my other one. If you need to get out
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  Speaker 4: of work for two days, tell them you gotta have
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  Speaker 4: minor surgery. Because they won't ask any other questions. If
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  Speaker 4: it's a bigger surgery, they're gonna be like actually concerned.
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  Speaker 4: But minor surgery, they're gonna assume it's about your vagina. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And there will be no further questions.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like you can just, if you have
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  Speaker 2: a vagina out there, you can really just be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I got some polyps on my vagina.
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  Speaker 1: And they'll be like, all right, you good. Don't come in.
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  Speaker 1: Don't come in. Wait, if I lay down, it's like, hello? See? Polyps. Polyps.
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  Speaker 1: I have an outpatient surgery today.
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  Speaker 2: Why did you request time off?
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  Speaker 1: It's a minor emergency. Your voice changes when you lay down.
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  Speaker 5: See? See?
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  Speaker 3: I always use food poisoning, and now I realize that
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  Speaker 3: was just nothing. That was small time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no, girl.
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  Speaker 4: Food poisoning is like you got a flat tire. Everyone
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  Speaker 4: knows that one. yeah so there you guys go but
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  Speaker 4: i've also i've been scammed i've fallen for this is
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  Speaker 4: how easily scammed i am you know the one where
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  Speaker 4: the guy i used to have my whole life i've
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  Speaker 4: had busted cars so like the one where no you guys.
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  Speaker 6: Know this one i'm gonna listen i had a raggedy
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  Speaker 6: ass car too and uh i didn't even give a
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  Speaker 6: shit i remember one time a bus hit me like
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  Speaker 6: clipped me on the freeway and tore half my bumper
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  Speaker 6: off i didn't even notice until.
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  Speaker 1: I was like why is And I was like, let
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  Speaker 1: me pull over.
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  Speaker 2: My bumper was hanging off the car, making little sparks
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  Speaker 2: and shit.
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, la la la. Your bumper is going.
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  Speaker 4: To set your car on fire for insurance money.
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  Speaker 1: So you've had some hoopties.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I've had some hoopties.
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  Speaker 4: And I know you guys know the scam where you're
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  Speaker 4: at the gas station and the guy's like, hey, I
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  Speaker 4: can fix that for you.
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  Speaker 1: And then.
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  Speaker 4: I'll fix it for you for cheap. Then you tell
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  Speaker 4: your insurance that you got it fixed. They'll pay you
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  Speaker 4: back and you'll make some money.
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  Speaker 1: Do you guys know this? Yes, I do.
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  Speaker 4: I do. Well, I did fall for that. And that
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  Speaker 4: guy don't, they're not, at least in my case, it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't someone who actually knew how to fix cars.
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  Speaker 1: He made it.
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  Speaker 4: Like so much worse.
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  Speaker 1: What was wrong with it? I had like.
• 8:41
  Speaker 4: Gotten into an accident and I had a huge dent
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  Speaker 4: on my passenger side door. Like you could see where
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  Speaker 4: the other car like scraped my entire door. So it
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: needed like, I needed a new door basically.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. But he was like, don't worry, I can pop
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  Speaker 1: that out. Right. Was he punching it with his fists? Like,
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: what did he do?
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  Speaker 4: It was an I can pop that out and then
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  Speaker 4: I'll buff it. He goes, I can pop that out
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  Speaker 4: and then I'll buff it and it'll look like new.
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  Speaker 4: So he pops it out and then he buffs it
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  Speaker 4: with like this shit that looks, it's like white grease, basically.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, it's just going to.
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  Speaker 4: Take a couple hours to dry. I pay this guy $ 500.
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  Speaker 4: He drives off. The shit never dries. It just stays
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  Speaker 4: like white and grease. See, the dentist's still there, and
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  Speaker 4: this guy is nowhere to be found.
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  Speaker 3: Your car just has a Noxzema, like, stain on it.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's like he put some lotion on your car
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: like it was ashy. Like, no. Hey, sis, your car
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: look a little ashy.
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: I'll put some lotion on it for $ 500.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: And then he drove off. Nah, bruh.
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: You can't ever get nothing fixed by somebody in a
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: motor vehicle. They too mobile. Like, I got to be
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: able to come back to your shop. Like, we got
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: to go to your shop.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: You can't fix my shit on a moped. You know,
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: you can weave between lanes. I'll never find you. Yeah.
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: Try not to cut illicit deals with people who are
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: in the getaway vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That would be my advice.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good sign if somebody's trying to offer to
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  Speaker 2: do something and they are mobile like extremely mobile don't
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  Speaker 2: do it they need to be stationary if they can
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  Speaker 2: get in the car or the motorcycle like immediately that's
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  Speaker 2: a no-go for.
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  Speaker 4: Me exactly I feel you.
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  Speaker 2: That's a common scam. I used to get so offended.
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  Speaker 2: My last car, I don't even know why I got
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: offended because this shit was raggedy. Ford, JK, if y'all
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: sponsor the show, I love Fords. But I used to
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: get those signs that said, we buy junk cars like
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: all the time. I was like, damn, this is insulting.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: Can y'all just say we buy used cars? Like, how
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: you gonna just put this shit on here and be like,
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: your car is ass. We will buy it.
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: Thank you girl and have you ever found out i
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: know i found out that my car was a junk
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: car from one of those cards i.
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: Thought it was all right it's like they're nagging me
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: into giving them my car i've had that happen so
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: many times it always it's like in there underneath all
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: the dead leaves are on top of the windshield they're
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: like yeah we're gonna just jam it in there let
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: her know what she let her know what she's.
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  Speaker 1: Like four other cards and they're like we'll put eyes
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  Speaker 1: on tap well we'll take the rest out it's so
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  Speaker 1: disrespectful I would I feel like if y'all were like
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  Speaker 1: we buy beautiful cars I would feel more I would
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  Speaker 1: feel better about going over there you already telling me
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  Speaker 1: my shit is junk I know you ain't gonna give
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  Speaker 1: me a good price exactly we buy lemons don't you
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  Speaker 1: want better for yourself let us buy this car for
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: you because.
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: Tragic you would be happier crawling yeah all of those
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: who've driven a piece of shit car i mean i've
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  Speaker 4: definitely been approached by guys as well to fix a
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  Speaker 4: random thing.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like as a woman, it probably happens more
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  Speaker 2: to us, too, because men just assume like, oh, she's
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: a woman.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Like, she don't know anything about cars. And look, they
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: write about me. I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Me too.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's actually correct.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 3: But I know enough that I don't want this fixed now. Also,
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: I know enough that I can just drive around with
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: it looking like shit forever. That's also an option.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: Only reason that I... Well, I've upgraded since, but.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: The only reason I was like, I got to get
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: rid of this car is because you get pulled over
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: more often if your car is raggedy, especially in nice neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 2: Because the police, like if I went to Beverly Hills, bro,
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: they would run my tags.
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even doing anything illegal. They would run my tags.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: I got towed out there because they were like, this bitch,
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: we know something wrong. Because her car, if her car
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: looked like this, she definitely got some fines or something.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: She didn't even fix her car.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: She definitely ain't paying the government. Exactly. Exactly. And they profile.
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: I will say, my car, I keep it messy. My
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: husband is like a neater person than I am. So
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: my car is my little pig pen where I just really,
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: I got jeans in there right now. I got empty
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: fast food wrappers, all that. And I do, when I
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: go on my runs sometimes, I will leave my keys
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: in my unlocked car because of that. Like no one's
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: going to try to, it's hiding in plain sight.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give you the opposite though.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: If you have shit in your car and there is
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: somebody around, they will bust a window to get in
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: that bitch. At least your doors weren't locked because I've
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  Speaker 2: had my car robbed twice. Once it was in my
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: garage at my old place, but it was in Hollywood.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: Helicopters all the time. Everybody's trying to get away on
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  Speaker 2: foot from robberies constantly.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: That caused a lot of traffic.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: But they were like, they escaped into this neighborhood.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: You can't go home.
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 2: Like that literally happened to me. But one time, the
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: last time, luckily my door was unlocked. So they just
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: went in and they took like my deodorant. They took
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: like my sunglasses and stuff like that. And I was like, oh,
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: this must be an unhoused person if they jack my little,
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: you know, emergency deodorant. So I didn't feel that bad.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: And they didn't break my window. So I didn't have
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: to pay for anything. And they left some armor on wipes.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: So I was like, damn, y'all trying to say I
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: need to clean up?
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: The fuck is these? Maybe they were wiping fingerprints.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: But I was like, bitch, how y'all gonna leave some
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: wipes in here talking about, bitch, you need to wipe
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: these leather seats down.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: I felt insulted. But the first time I got robbed
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: was also in a damn garage.
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  Speaker 5: And.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: I had a bunch of wigs and shit in my
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: car because at the time I was doing sketch comedy.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: So you got to have a lot of highly flammable wigs.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: Y'all know.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: And they broke into my car, bust the fucking window.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: They put a maxi pad on the window so they
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: could absorb the sound. Damn, I'm telling y'all how to
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: break into cars. And they busted the window. Wait, like
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: a maxi pad like for periods?
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: It was a maxi pad on the window when we
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: found the car. Because I guess it absorbs the sound
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: of them hitting the glass while they're trying to.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Get it to break.
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: I came down, saw it, and I'm like, oh, my God.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Because I did have some expensive shit in there. But
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: because the wigs and stuff were in there, they didn't
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: take anything. And honestly, I was offended. I was like,
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: how are you going to break my window and then
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: be like, ain't this shit in here?
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: I want to say like then a week later, you
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: just saw all of them wearing your wigs.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: I would love that. I would love that more.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: If I just saw a bunch of people on the
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: street wearing my wigs, I would be proud.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: But they were like, we don't want this bitch's cheap shit.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: And my mom was always like, you can't leave stuff
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: in your car because people will think like, oh, if
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: I bust it open, I'm gonna get something.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: But don't you think like. The items that I'm displaying,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: I don't think put off the vibe of like, there's
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: some good shit in here.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I have flammable wigs, girl. They didn't look that good.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: And clothes.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: And they bust my shit. With a maxi pad. They
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: were dedicated. Okay, fine, Lacey.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: I'll get a car wash today.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, fine.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying wash the outside. I'm saying like, put
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: all that shit in the trunk or something. Because the
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: girls will rob. but it's not even about robbery it's
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: about like you don't want them to bust your window
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: then you gotta pay for that shit that's the thing
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: that's what annoyed me I was like y'all couldn't like
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: break into.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: The door or something y'all gotta bust.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: The window god damn so let's get into our first
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: segment 16 minutes in I love this for us what's
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: hot and fraud this is where we warn our listeners
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: about popping scams and the zeitgeist but more often than
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: not these days we get a letter from you guys
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: as always snitch on your friends and family and scam
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: goddess pod at gmail.com just make sure your scam's retired
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: so we don't what.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Yes fuck up your bag All right. So today I
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: need a fake name from you guys. Either one. And
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: we don't care about gender. Frankenfurt. Frankenfurt. Love it. So
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Frankenfurt says, hey, Lacey. Hey, Frankenfurt.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, I received a call from an
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: unknown number. A man who sounded vaguely threatening asked for
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: me by name, claiming he was a process server and
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: that I was being sued for outstanding debt owed to
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: a collection agency. He gave me a number to call
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: and told me I could either make payment arrangements or
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: he'd come to my place of employment the next day
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: and serve me lawsuit papers. I'm going to pause right there.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: First of all, how are you going to tell me
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: you're going to serve me tomorrow? I'm just not going
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: to be there. Do you know how serving works?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: You got to surprise people. You got to be like, oh, we.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Having a birthday party. And then you get there on
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: the birthday and it ain't no birthday. And then somebody
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: serving you like that's how you got to do it.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: That's how Carucci did Chris Brown. I think it was
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: his birthday party.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: He was at the club. The lawyer came to the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: club and was like, we fly high. No lie. We
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: brought the lawsuit. And he gave her a shotty order.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Did he bring it out like a bottle of vodka? Right,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: he came over.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Like a bottle service girl came over and it was
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: like a bottle wrapped around like legal paperwork.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I would absolutely do that if I was a server. Like,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: wouldn't you, if you were the person serving these notices,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: you'd like, that's where all the wigs come in. Like,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: all right, what disguise can I wear today?
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: If your whole job is serving people, I hope you're
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: out there having fun. Babs, you're absolutely right. Like, I
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: want wigs.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I want costumes. I want you to show up like
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the UPS man and the package is a lawsuit. Like....
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah pizza delivery.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah oh they can open a pizza box and it's
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: a lawsuit yes that's exciting now I hope they're doing
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: stuff like that because that's how I would do it
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: put some flair in it have fun with your job
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: um if anybody does this y'all tweet me and tell
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: me if y'all do anything fun because I think that's
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: how you should do it like I will always come
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: in disguise I would never just show up in a
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: suit like you're served no that way I got.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Served by a lady in a nurse costume I wasn't
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: even at the hospital. I'll be at Party City every
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: day like, what am I going to serve the girls today?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: So let's continue this. Frankfurt says, Frankfurt.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Says, at this point, I was about 50-50 on whether
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: this was a scam. So I called the number. Okay, Frankie,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: so you owe somebody some coins. Because if they call
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: to say you owe Bank of America, you were like, well,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I do owe a lot of people. So, you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: there's Navient, my cousin. He was like going down the
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: list like, hmm.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I could. This could be true.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Finally, something's coming back on my ass. I always feel
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: that like when I get in trouble for something, even
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: though it's not my fault, I'm like, well, I have
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: done other fucked up shit. So maybe this is.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: That's a healthy way to look at it. I like that.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: And collection agencies, like the whole situation is like people
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: will outsource their debt that they need to the collection
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: agency so the collection agency can harass you. And then
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: in turn, the collection agency gets like a little piece
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: of the debt if they can get you to pay.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: But they really don't have anything but phone calls. And
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: this is so trifling because I definitely have enough money
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: to pay whoever they're trying to. But I'm getting calls
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: sometimes from a collection agency and they'll be like, this
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: call might be recorded.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I just hang up. Or they'd be like, hello. You
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: hear like a doo doo. Is this Lacey Mosley? I
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: just hang up.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Girl, I'm in the same place. I finally have money
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: for like the first time in my life. And like,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I'm like, let's not go into that. That's not real.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: My credit is fine. I could get a house. I
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: got a home loan. I ain't never paying y'all back.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Y'all don't got enough on me. Sorry. My credit is great.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: And do they not know that we all have- I
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: never pay you.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: No.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Sequoia Financial. Hello. Fuck off.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: We have fucking caller ID now.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: No, we're not answering.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Unidentified calls. This isn't our first day.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: But they be switching it up.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: So sometimes they'll call from an area code that's from
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: your area code, which.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I'm from Texas.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: So if I see a 214 and I don't know it, bro,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not picking up. If I see a 972 and
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know it, nah. But they'll call from places
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: that they think you'll pick up. Or now- Sometimes for
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: some weird reason, maybe there's a way you can program
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: this in your phone, but I'll get phone calls and
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: it'll say a name. And I think that they think like, oh,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you'll assume this is someone in your contacts because there's
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: a name on the phone call.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, you ain't never met this person in your life.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that was a good one. They
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: got me on that one a couple of times and
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: be like, dude, this is Sequoia.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, bye. I'm so petty. I could definitely pay them.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm just not going to.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: No, there's a million things I'd rather do. Also, it
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: falls off after like a certain amount of years.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: They just chalk it to the game. And I'm like, yeah,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: y'all better just charge it to the game, girl, because
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Give it to you.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: It's like I already used that money, so it's not real.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: It's just a non-existent number in your fucking computer. Right.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Money ain't real. Nothing's real.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: So it's a vibe, you know. Currency is a vibe.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm not vibing with paying people back.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: No.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: All the people I'm paying back is the government. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: had one student loan because I went to school on
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: a full scholarship, but a full tuition. But I had
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to pay for housing. And my parents got a loan
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: and then they paid their loan off for me. And
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: then my loan, I was like, so y'all.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Gonna leave the one in my name? That's how y'all
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: gonna do me?
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: But they supported me throughout my struggling acting career. So
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I can't even say shit.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Love y'all. So a woman's.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: So remember, at this point, he's 50 50 because he
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: does know he owes some people. So he says a
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: woman who seemed very irritated answered because he called the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: number and he said a woman was seemed very irritated.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: And she answered and said nothing but hello. Law office.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: No first name. No company name. Just law office.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: This sounds like this must be the scammer's girlfriend. And
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: she was like, babe, I don't want to do this today.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Girl, come on. We got to get this fake lawsuit solved. Hello?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Law Office Incorporated of Law. Like, giving the girls nothing.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: So I told her about the call I received, and
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: she looked up my name. Then told me I owed
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Bank of America $ 8, 000 and that I could either make
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: a payment now or let them sue you. She claimed
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that they had already sent me a letter requesting payment
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: that I hadn't received. How do you know I didn't
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: receive the letter? Maybe he's saying he didn't receive it.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: She also had the last four digits of my social
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: security number somehow. Again, making it seem somewhat believable.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: How'd she get the last four?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I don't like that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: That's easy. You guys, that one's easy.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: The last four is out there.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's out there. Anything that you give anyone is
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: out there. Your phone number, all that.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I know it's all out there.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: It's all out there.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: You know, I haven't seen the... that out there.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah so it says i told the woman i would
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: wait to be served the papers and take it from
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: there i then spent the day calling bank of america
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: and checking my credit report to make sure i didn't
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: have any debt i had forgotten about i love he
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: said i have any debt that i have forgotten about
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: he's like i got debt i know where it's at
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to make sure there's no crumbs of
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: debt that I forgot about. So, um, which of course
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: he says, I didn't, I never got served papers or
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: received another call, but it's a little scary that they
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: had the last four digits of my social. I guess
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: our information gets compromised all the time.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: So stay vigilant. Yup. It does.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: But just feel good that they needed to call you
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: because they didn't have enough info to fuck you over.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: So that's a really, you wouldn't have gotten that phone
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: call if they were all good to go.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: They would have just robbed you if they had everything
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: they needed.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: And that's another thing that should be a vote of confidence, guys.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I always say this on this podcast. If something don't
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: sound right, just hang up. You can just hang up
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the phone. It's not even personal. You're not face to face.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Just hang up the phone. Because people will try you.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And if you get scared or you start volunteering information,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: it might be over for your ass.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Even if it is Bank of America, hang up.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they will get in contact with you. If they
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: really fucking need to, they'll figure. And you'll realize it's
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: the real thing.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I fuck with those people all the time. Like, there
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: was that one scam going around. I'm sure you talked
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: about it, Lacey, where it was like, did your credit
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: card buy something in this other state? And it was
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: this whole thing. And they were like, you're going to
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: be investigated by the FBI or something. And I was like,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: and he goes, did your card buy this and this
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: in Texas on this date? And I go, yeah. It did.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: And he, like, didn't know what to do because I
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: said yes.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: You were like, yee-haw. And he was like, wait a minute.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Damn it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he just, like, didn't know how to handle it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: And then he was like, what do you do for
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: a living?
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I just made up all this dumb fake shit.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: What do you do for a living, sir? Why are
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you in my business?
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah. What are you wearing right now?
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: How much money you got? Yeah.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: What are you doing tonight? Like, what's your deal?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Right. Is this a date? You go out with him.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: You marry him.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: It started with a scam and it ended with romance.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: That is, I mean, lifetime movie. Let's do it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Right. Okay.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: So, last thought about this. I have never known Bank
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: of America to let you... charge money to them without
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: them recouping it like now if you have a negative
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: balance like that might happen but Bank of America won't
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: even let you buy shit if they're like you can't
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: afford it like they'll just stop your car they don't
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: let you like they rarely let you go into the
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: negative like if it's an auto pay thing I think
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: they'll let you but if you're trying to swipe on
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: some $ 60 meal and you only got $ 30 Bank of
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: America will be like hey girl.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: They will leave you embarrassed in Chipotle they don't give
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: a fuck.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: They don't give.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: A fuck. Yeah, your card's getting denied. That's not right.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Fraud protection is only it only exists to protect banks.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: It's not there to protect us. So the Bank Bank
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: of America, if I go like four miles up the
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: street and go to a gas station, they're like, hey, sis,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: we saw you bought a monster energy in Englewood.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: That just don't sound like you. So we shut your
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: card off.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I remember once I got that alert because I went
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: to Taco Bell and I only got like $ 5 worth
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: of things. And I got to talk about all the time.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: And it was like, there's no way it's her because
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: she only bought $ 5 worth of food.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: She'd be getting way more at Taco Bell. She'd be
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: getting nachos supreme. She'd be getting at least a freezy blast.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: No, this ain't bad.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: This is usually $ 15 to $ 20 purchase at least. There's
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: no way this is her.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Taco Bell and drops a stack. Like, run it up.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Give me all the tacos. That's my fucking dream.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Listen, I still.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Fucks with Taco Bell. There's a funny joke in Family
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Guy that was like, Meg started drinking alcohol. And they
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: were like, Peter was like, Meg is drinking alcohol. And
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the mom was, Lois was like, no, she's not. She
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: wouldn't do that. And then they open her bedroom door
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: and they see a bag of Taco Bell next to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: her bed.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And they were like, her baby's an alcoholic. Yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I was like, yo, because nothing busts harder than Taco
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Bell after a night of drinking.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Because I think the like toxicity of the Taco Bell
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: is the perfect match for the toxicity of the alcohol.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Like they're of equal force.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Doritos Locos Tacos have a hold on me they have
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a hold on me every now and then because Taco
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Bell stays open late too every now and then I
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: gotta hit them the Postmates up at 2am like y'all Postmates.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Is always next level because you're like I just paid
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: $ 50 for a Doritos Loco Taco.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Right for a Doritos Loco Taco because they'll show you
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the prices and then when you get to the checkup
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I'd be like alright so we got driving fees gas
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: fee Postmate fee open the doorknob fee I.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Think it's just like a what the fuck fee like
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: you're ordering fucking Taco Bell at 3 a.m.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: I will say that's my, like, number one way of
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: wasting money, though, is I love... I'll waste money on
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: shit like that all the time. Like, when I want something,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I want it now. Same. I have no patience. And
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I will pay $ 50 to have yogurt brought to my house.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: To have yogurt brought to my house. Bitch, I want
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a Chobani, and I want it now. I don't care
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: if it's $ 50. Throw in some granola. Let's make it $ 100. Like.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: But you know, Taco Bell actually improved the quality of
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: their beef. It's like 100% beef now. They upgraded like
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: all of their foods and produce, but they didn't tell
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: anybody because they didn't want their.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: This is how you know Taco Bell knows their clientele.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: They were like, we can't tell our raggedy ass customers
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: that we made the food healthier.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Because they might not come back.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: They wouldn't.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: They're specifically coming for trash. So we can't tell them.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we know what we're there for.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: And actually this is the first I've heard of it
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: and I'm a little offended.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: It's been that way for a while, though. So you've
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: eaten the improved Taco Bell.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it was before. And I'm very scared.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't know it was 100%, not 100%.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: It's cool.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: You know, if you've had a McDonald's chicken, then get
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: her a hot dog. It's all the same.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: It's the yoga mat. The yoga mat in the bread situation.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Yoga mat tastes good, low-key. I'm like, in the apocalypse,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: do I just munch on that?
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: I might. I got plenty. I mean, maybe that's how
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: much I love yoga. I'm willing to eat it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Let me put some sauce on on this yoga mat
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: and see what it's doing. Some pickles. All right, guys.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: right back. Scams!
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: And we are back and it's time for historic hoodwinks
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and y'all this is going to be a good one.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to say up top, I will post
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: my Britney Spears toxic photo with a snake on the
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Instagram because I want y'all to see.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Like, Britney, I love this woman so much. She influenced
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: my life so much.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: And she was just a bad bitch who got done
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: dirty all around.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And we have the experts here.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Part of, like, the reason the Free Britney movement got poppin'. Like,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I'ma say it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Y'all free Britney. I'ma say it. I'ma say it. You know? Like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: y'all got the key, and y'all unlocked the jail cell.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: And, you know, you don't have to claim it, but
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna claim it because it's obvious to me. If
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: you saw the New York Times documentary about Britney, which
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I really, really love. But, you know, so they were
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: in the New York Times documentary. They know all about this.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: We're talking about Britney Spears.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: We're talking about conservatorships. And Babs, you were in the courtroom. Tess,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: did you go to the courtroom, too?
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: No. So they only let one person from each outlet go.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: So I've been in the courtroom a bunch of times.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: This time I was outside covering the protests and all
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: the people that were outside and all that while Babs
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: was inside.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I love this. So you guys were both covering it,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: one from the inside, one from the outside. So we
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: got all the tea. Love it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: We've traded off. Tess was inside, you know, when Britney
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: did her testimony interview.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. That was that testimony was popping.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Like it was sad, but it was it was like
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: she really.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: She went for it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Man, like being a pop star in that day and age. Also,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: fuck Diane Sawyer. We don't get into it, but fuck her.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: And we'll talk about her later because that bitch is
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: raggedy and we just all didn't notice.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: What a raggedy bitch.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: So she's lucky Matt Lauer got canceled first.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: So if you guys don't know about what we're talking about,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I'll give you some back backstory. Since 2008, Britney Spears
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: has remained under conservatorship by her father, Jamie Spears. Jamie,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: along with a series of other co-conservators, managers and team members,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: have retained control of Britney's estate and life for 13
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: years to immense financial benefit. So before we get into
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: this part, the guardianship, Did y'all go to the Britney
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Spears experience when they had it in LA?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: We did.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: We went for research. Yeah.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Did you go? I felt like she was trying to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: talk to me.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I went and how they did it was like, and
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all, y'all maybe have had like
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: had a VIP experience, but how they did it with us,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: obviously it's just a place to get Instagram photos.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I will post some photos from the Britney Spears experience too,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: but they had these rooms that you will go into, right?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Like y'all know, and it would be like rooms where
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: they kind of replicated stuff from her music videos or
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: they had like pieces from things and and you couldn't
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: leave the room at least in my experience you couldn't
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: leave the room until the time was up so we
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: would get our photos off my homegirl Liz shout out
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: to Liz Adams and your beautiful baby um.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: She brought clothes.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: So she was like changing over her clothes to get
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: all these Instagram photos.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Prepared.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I was flicking away. I was like, hit them angles.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Like we were getting all these photos. I was crawling
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: on the floor in the toxic airplane and shit. But
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't let you leave each room until they were like,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: now you can leave.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: So you were with a group of people. We'd be like,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: we're good. Like, can we keep walking? No, they wouldn't
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: let us through the other doors. I was like, I'm trapped.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Just like Britney. Oh my God.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: And there was a room where they had the lockers
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: in there from Hit Me Baby One More Time. And
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: they were like, you can slip a note in the
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: locker to send to Britney. And I was like, this
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: feels like she's in prison.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Well, and she was. And here's the deal with that, though, too,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: is that whole shit went off without Britney's involvement. So
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: that was the kind of like death knell of them
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: like trying to squeeze as much as they could out
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: of her likeness while she was on strike. So she
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: had already said she wasn't performing.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she wasn't performing.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: She's like, I'm on a work stoppage. And they tried
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: to get her at least come to show up, take
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: a quick selfie and be like, hey, guys, homegirl didn't come.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: She was like, absolutely not.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: So and I love that for her. Me too. Me too.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: And I do have to say, did y'all see, obviously
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: y'all saw, did y'all see the nudes that she posted
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: with the flowers?
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Of course.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, yes.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: That's what's been so constant lately is like something huge
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: will happen in her case and we're all freaking out
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: and then she's just like, tits. Titty. Free the titties. Yeah,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: she's just going for it. I mean, she literally, she's
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: out from under her dad for the first time in,
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: you know, 13 years. So I think she's just like,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: fuck you.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: A lot of people were like theorizing that like they
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: felt like she didn't post those pictures.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Do you think she posted them?
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: That's the constant debate.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: The constant debate.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I think the nudes are B.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I love her so much. God, I love Britney. So
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: let's get into it. Overview of the guardianship.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: According to the National Guardianship Association, guardianship is a legal
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: process utilized when a person can no longer make or
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: communicate safe or sound decisions about their person and or
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: property because establishing a guardianship may remove considerable.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Rights from an individual. It should only be considered after
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: alternatives to guardianship have proven ineffective or unavailable.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: So, you know, guardianship is like this person is reckless.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: We're trying to keep them alive. Like we can't give
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: them their money. They blowing it all on cocaine, you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: whatever it is like. And this is not I'm not
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: saying this is Britney's thing, but, you know, that's how
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: guardianship works for people who don't know.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I know you guys know.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: So in America, legal guardianship was designed as a tool
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: only to be initiated as a last resort after the
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: courts have determined that ever less restrictive alternative was exercise.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: So guys, if y'all haven't seen I Care A Lot. Yeah,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I love that movie so much. It's just a scammer
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: versus the mob. And it is my jam. And it
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: talks about guardianship, but in this case of elderly people,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: where a woman's basically a vulture and like gets doctors
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: to say like, oh, she's senile.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Let's take a house.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like. You know, that's the big thing about
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Britney's situation is it's brought to light the reality, which
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: is that it's a lot of elderly people who get scammed.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of disabled people who get
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: into guardianships automatically when they turn 18. So it's really
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: like a lot of people affected by this.
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And it's something that we absolutely have to revisit.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: And like, if somebody's trying to put your granny in
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: a guardianship, you better pull up on your granny and like,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know, move her in.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Cause they trying to rob her. They usually only really
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: try to.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Put those guardianships on elderly people, at least on people
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: who got some coins or some benefits coming in, just
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: like disabled people. Like, you know, not all disabled people
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: have benefits coming in, but I know some who do
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: because of specific situations. Or I have a friend who
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: got into a car crash and, It was not her fault.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Like I think the car hit her and she was
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: like standing or something and she's been permanently in a wheelchair.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: So she does get money regularly. So these are the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: people that they're trying to come after because they want
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: the coins.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: It's not about guardianship. Like, No, and it's very.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Very difficult to get out of. So that's another really
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: big thing about this is it's kind of like, you know,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: when you hit the factory reset button on your phone,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: it's like you're not going to get those pictures back.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: That's what it's like when someone goes into guardianship. And
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: so that's especially prevalent in Brittany's case because so much
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: shit went wrong there. And so many protocols were not
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: followed the weekend that they locked her up and put
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: her in this guardianship. But that one weekend ended up
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: putting her in the situation that she wasn't able to
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: get out of for 13 and a half years.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Which is insane.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: So in practice, like, so basically once someone's been declared
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: incapacitated by a number of guardians, lawyers and expert witnesses,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: they lose basic human rights.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Which is wild.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: So this can include their rights to vote, marry, start
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: a family, decide where they live, consent to medical treatment,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: spend their money, spend their money, seek employment, own.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Property, or crucially, the right to seek legal counsel.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: The system and the people that control it have directly
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: contributed to the abuse and at times death of extremely
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: concerning numbers of adults, many of whom who were fully
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: capable of making their own decisions. So we're talking 2006
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: to 2021, right? So in late 2007, Britney Spears was
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: made famous for two incidents, shaving her head and shortly
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: after attacking a paparazzi's car. Can I say that I
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: love the New York Times documentary so much because they
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: interviewed so many people and gave them enough rope to
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: hang themselves and didn't react. Didn't react to the fact
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: that they were saying crazy shit, including the paparazzo who
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: took the pictures of Britney bashing the car with the
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: umbrella when she was bald. And I remember I was
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: a kid at the time and I was like, oh,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: that's wild. And then I turned, I think she was
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: like 26 at the time or.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I turned 26 and I said, oh, that makes sense.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's all most of us feel when we
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: look back at that is you're like, oh, she was
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: being stalked by 50 strangers every time she stepped outside
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: her fucking door. Yeah, I'd be hitting their car with
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: whatever I could get my hands on.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: If a man touches my back in a club, I'm
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: likely to backhand him.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: That's what I was about to say, Tess.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Like, it wasn't even me empathizing with Brittany's specific situation.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I turned 26 and I was like, I would love
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: to hit cars with an umbrella.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Life is trash. Like, I was like, sis, go off.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Shave your head.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I'm about to shave my head and hit some cards
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: with an umbrella. Like, I was like, this makes absolute sense. Like,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the ghetto and your world famous and being stalked. Like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: you were saying, Babs, like, yes. And then when they
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: broke down the stalker situation, for those of you who
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: haven't seen the documentary, which I highly recommend, it's great.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: So the paparazzo in question who took the pictures, he
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: had been following Britney all night.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: He went, like, she went.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: To go try to see her kids at Kevin, uh,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: wife Peter's house and, and then tried to come back,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: went to the gas station. They followed her the entire time.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Then they took photos of her while she was sitting
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: in the.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Car, bald headed.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: And they were like all up on the dashboard, taking photos,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: taking photos. So she had taken so many photos and
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: obviously against her will and Then when they kept going,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: that's when the umbrella incident happened. And that woman was
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: under duress. She was trying to see her kids. She
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: unfortunately fucked a raggedy ass man. Like you should have
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: learned from Char Jackson, girl. Like, no, fuck that man.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he had good dick, but put a condom on.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Here's a little.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Trivia we learned while reporting the story. One of the
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: people we interviewed on the show is Jason Alexander, Brittany's
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: first husband.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Who, while Brittany was with K-Fed, Jason Alexander was dating
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Char Jackson.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: What?
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: They made a swap. They made a swap.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: They made a swap.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. That shit happens more often than we think.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Like, Lil Bow Wow has a baby with this woman
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: named Joy. And Ciara... Oh, wait. Lil Bow Wow has
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: a baby with this woman named Joy. Ciara used to
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: date Lil Bow Wow. Ciara has a baby with Future.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Joy also has a baby with Future.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Okay. Whoa. They just been dating the same men and
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: having kids. So it's like, what are we? Are we siblings?
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Are we cousins? Like, what are we? Love that for
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the industry. Yeah. Right. Love Ciara. Glad she got with
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and left the lean man behind. But I
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: love that. But she was being stalked.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: And this paparazzo in the documentary was like, nah, it
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: was like a mutual relationship.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Like she needed the paparazzi and we needed her. And like,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I love Britney.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Like we had such a good time when she was
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: bashing my car and with an umbrella and I was
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: taking pictures.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: What?
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: What? Oh, yeah.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: He's like, no, she wanted it. And they were like,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: he was like, she didn't want us to stop. And
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: they were like, well, what about when she said to stop?
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: And he was like, yeah, but she didn't mean it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: No, she didn't mean it. You know how women be
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: saying no and they don't really mean no.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: You know, you a man.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: That's what we've learned over the last two years is
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: when women say no, they don't mean it. So go
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: ahead and do whatever you want without their consent.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Right. Like consent. Women don't know how to do that.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: You know, that's like... That used to be like all.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Those problematic movies now from the 90s where there'd be
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: guys at the table like.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she was like all shy at first, didn't
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: want to have sex with me. And then, yeah, yeah,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: we did.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: It's like the whole brag was like, she didn't want to,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: but then we did.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: What? The ghetto.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: And please, Britney needed the paparazzi like a bad habit.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: She was already putting out all these sick music videos.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: She was creating her own media. She was doing magazine
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: cover shoots. She was getting exposure.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: She's globally famous. She don't need your paparazzi exposure.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Also, paparazzi, y'all not trying to catch people in a
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: good light because you get more money if they look raggedy.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: So she don't need that. Like, the Kardashians used to call,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if they still do it.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: They probably do.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: But I used to work in a restaurant where they
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: would come sometimes, and they would wait in the lobby
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: until the paparazzi came, and then they would walk out.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: So they would call the paps.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Like, some people do. They were working it, you know?
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: But Britney Spears, she be working, bitch. Like, she's good.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: So, you know, that was so weird. Because he just
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: kept talking, and I was like, bro, you don't understand
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: how awful you sound?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: And then it's just, yeah, you fast forward and, you know,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: in our experience, that's what people were still associating her with,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: you know, this much later and saying, well, she shaved
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: her head and she did this, so, you know, I
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: guess it's okay that all her rights were taken away.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: And it's like, you don't know the context of what
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: was happening. Like, this woman was, like, first of all,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: very young, globally famous, and being stalked. Like, what do
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: you think is gonna happen?
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: And even not knowing the context, it's like, okay, and? Like,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: what about all these motherfuckers who are, like, violently hurting people?
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: And still, they can still vote? Like, Jesus Christ.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: She hit a car with an umbrella and now she
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: can't vote? Right.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: If that's the case, they should take away all of
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: our voting rights. Like, we all have done some crazy shit.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Honestly, they should. Half the country don't know how to
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: vote anyway.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: So, these incidents were brought on by extreme stress and grief.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: And they cemented her image as crazy.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Just like we just said. Like, she's stressed. She's grieving.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: And they were like, oh, you're nuts. Like, we're going
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: to take your money away. So... She subsequently put on
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: two involuntary psychiatric holds in the following weeks, the latter
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: of which prompted the involvement from her father, Jamie Spears. So,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: we don't have the context of Jamie Spears, but I
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: know you guys remember, and I remember from the documentary, like,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: at times he had, like, an alcohol problem. He had
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: a bunch of failed businesses.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: The only thing that this raggedy-ass man has ever been
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: successful at was spitting some seed out and making Britney Spears.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: And so, I think part of him, the insecurity of, like,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: not being successful and being a straight white man was like,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: this is all I got. So, I don't even give
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: a fuck if it's my daughter.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Like... I'm going to run it up. And also, like,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: he wasn't in the documentary, but he was, her brother was.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: And he said some real misogynistic shit that I was like,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: this must be what this household is looking like. Because
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: he also hung himself. He was like, you know, it's
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: hard growing up with, like, lots of women in the house.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: They got opinions. They talking. You know what I mean?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Why bitches trying to make choices for themselves, basically?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: And I was like.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: yeah and no one he was recorded he's like here
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: this will set the record straight women can't drive and.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: He also said about britney like yeah she's always wanted
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: to get out of the conservatorship she's like motherfucker you're.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: Gonna help her you fool right yeah jamie spirit like
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: we should say you know so on our podcast talks
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: if we go really deep into the weekend she was
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: conserved and we do like catalog exactly all the ways
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: it was insanely fucked up But one of the biggest
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: things to me that's so messed up is that she
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: was not talking to Jamie when this all happened.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: He was not allowed in her home. And he swooped
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: in and took over her entire life.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, it's just.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Honestly, Brittany better than me because I might have to
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: go and fight my dad. We're going to get into
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: a physical altercation and you over 60. I'm going to win.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going for your knees first and.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Then your hip.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I hope you got life alert because you're going to
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: fall and not get up and we ain't going to
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: call nobody. Like, I hope that Britney can flip this
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: shit when she's finally, you know, the last hearings happen
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: and she's out of this conservatorship. Because I want Jamie
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: in a nursing home where.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: They pinching him and they're not changing the bedsheets regularly. Like,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I want the worst for him, you know?
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: They're definitely coming. They're coming for him.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: On February 1st, 2008, a day after her second hold,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Jamie ordered the Los Angeles County Supreme Court to put
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Britney into an emergency temporary conservatorship at the age of 26.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Judge Reva Goetz named Jamie the conservative of Britney's person
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: while he and an attorney, Andrew Wallet, were named co-conservators
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: of her estate.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: So important facts.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: She was not given five days advance notice as required
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: by law, but this can be bypassed if a judge
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: decides that they could suffer immediate and substantial harm. So
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: if they aren't even put her in the psychiatric facility
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: against her will, you know, I'm sure that they could
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: convince a judge like, oh, well, she's already in a
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: psychiatric facility. So we don't need to do that five days.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: You don't need time to get a lawyer like.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: We just run it up.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they basically did it because she was hanging out
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: with this guy, Sam Lutfi, all the time. They didn't
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: want him to know that she was in that about
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: the hearing. So that's why they bypassed it. They said,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Sam Lutfi can't find out about this. So why don't
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: we just not tell Britney?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: And this is Sam Lutfi attached to other celebrities. Yeah.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Like Lindsay Lohan, I want to say.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: He got up in Lindsay Lohan's shit. Courtney Love has
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: a restraining order against him. He kind of is just, like,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: this guy that you're, like, he's his own thing. Like,
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: we don't know his backstory. He just kind of appeared
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: out of the ether and got into Britney's life and
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: has kind of, like, gotten his fingers into the life
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: of a bunch of others.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: He's a scammer.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: There's people like that, especially around celebrity culture, who will
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: gas you up, listen to you, you don't have to
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: say nothing, and then they'll manipulate you and, you know,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: try to take your things.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: So.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: According to a family friend, Jacqueline Butcher, she was asked
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: to attend the proceedings in order to provide testimony. But instead,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: this is a quote, the whole process was maybe 10 minutes.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: No one testified. No questions were asked.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: In the state of California, there are three kinds of conservatorships.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Brittany was under a probate conservatorship, which is the only
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: one where the conservator of the person is appointed separately
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: from the conservator of the estate, the person who handles
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: the finances. The judge appointed a probate lawyer named Sam
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Ingham as Spears' advocate against both her and her chosen
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: lawyer's wishes. Damn, so then they also gave her a
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: coin-appointed lawyer?
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: And that's the whole... The crux of this whole thing. Like,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: this guy sucks. He did not represent his client well
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: the past 13-plus years. And she wanted to get this
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: other lawyer immediately. They said, eh, she doesn't have the
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: capacity to hire her own lawyer, which was part of
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: that lawyer she had... was part of that decision, too.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: He said, she doesn't have the capacity to hire her
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: own lawyer. Why don't you hire me? Wow.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Everybody was in on this fucking grift. Everyone.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: And so also how they got her in this initial
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: conservatorship is they said that she had dementia, but they
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: didn't provide anything to back that up. They just told
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: the judge, this 26-year-old woman has dementia.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Who is getting dementia at 26?
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: And that's how many scammers we have involved here is
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: no one in that courtroom asked that question.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: And everybody must.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Have been getting a check or getting paid off because
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: dementia at 26. First of all, when Britney does concerts,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: she got 511 songs.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: She remembered all of those. Like, where did the dementia
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: come from?
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: She would have been. Yeah, she would have been the
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: youngest ever recorded person to have it, if that was true.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: And then also they're supposed to get this other thing
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: called a capacity declaration, which they never. That's like the
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: key to getting a conservatorship. They never got it.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: It just seems like they and it not even seems
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: it is like everybody just made this very rushed decision.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know who got paid off allegedly, allegedly, but
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: it sounds like some funds were involved because they ignored
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: every aspect of the law to put her in this conservatorship. Obviously,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: they got her a lawyer that she didn't want and
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: then granted conservators petitions publicly. to waive the requirement to
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: notify her that any of this was happening, right? So
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Ingham met with Britney. This is the trash-ass appointed lawyer,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: probably in a men's warehouse suit. Giving polyester, giving flammable,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: giving sweat, you know?
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: So he met with Britney for only 15 minutes after
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: the conservatorship was granted, but has since retained the role,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: and Britney covers his annual salary of $ 520, 000 fucking dollars.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Yes. So this motherfucker who finally got fired in July,
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: his only job is to advocate for his client. Brittany's
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: wishes is incentivized to not advocate.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: For her wishes. Right.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Because if she's out of it, he's not going to
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: get money anymore. So why would he lose half a
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: million dollars a year to actually help her?
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: And we know from our investigation and from the New
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: York times reporting and, uh, Also, Ronan Farrow and Gia
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Tolentino's reporting that she tried many, many times to get
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: out of it. She spoke to him many times about
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: how she wanted out, and he never helped her.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: He never tried to terminate it. This scamming-ass lawyer. I
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: just see him showing up with a legal pad. She
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, so these are the reasons that we
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: can get out of this. And she was like, why
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: aren't you writing, Ingham? You ain't writing nothing down.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. I got it all
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: in my head. I got it all in my head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I got it. Okay, so you want to be free. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: We can work on freedom. So freedom probably going to
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: take like.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: two to thirteen years um for freedom yeah it's a
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: lot of paperwork you know they actually running out of
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: paper they don't want to kill no more trees so
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I gotta wait for the paper to come in I'm
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: also out of printer ink so you know it's gonna
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: take some time um freedom's on.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Back order right now sorry we'll let you know.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah this guy skated for so long doing nothing and
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: was charging that much money and look I've had those
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: jobs okay where I got in there I barely did
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: shit I put in my time card I was like
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: fuck yeah but what like not when there were someone's
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: fucking rights at stake that was not You know, that
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: was not what was going on.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: And that's why I go by the hands policy. And
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: what the hands policy is, anybody who works with me,
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I always make a joke that's not a joke. And
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, because, you know, if you steal from me,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have to pop the trunk.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: And I laugh, but not too hard. I'm like, ha, ha, ha.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Ha, ha, ha.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm not just going to sue you. I'm going
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: to beat your ass. Like, what? And I got some
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: cousins who can help.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Like, I will find you and beat your motherfucking ass
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: if you try to fuck me over. Like, that's the
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: conversation I have with anybody who's anywhere near my money.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: And throughout this entire conservatorship, not only did she have
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: her hands totally tied by not being able to hire
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: an attorney. So we all know you're completely fucked in
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: the American legal system if you don't have an attorney
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: fighting for you. They're also using her children as a
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: means of coercing her. They would say, do this or
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: you don't see your kids. Go on stage or you're
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: not going to see your kids this weekend. So it
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: literally is like this motherfucker broke onto her property, broke
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: and injured onto her property, essentially took her hostage and
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: held her that way.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Which is just so wild.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: And that's so complicated because this is your father. You
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: grew up with this man. He probably didn't change no diapers.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: He doesn't give, like, hands on. But, you know, like,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: when you were building your career, he was there when
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: y'all were going to New York back and forth.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, like, so it's just.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: He wasn't there, though, actually.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Right, it was the nanny lady, right? What's her name?
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: She was the only person I liked in that documentary
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: because she seemed sweet. She seemed really sweet. Everybody else,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, can we be the ass once they
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: take the mic pack off? Like, it should just be
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: somebody outside whooping ass as people walk out.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: My favorite part is that in that documentary is one
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: of Jamie's lawyers, Vivian Thorine, who previously worked on the case.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: She was the only person like, you know, on that
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: side to talk. And she ended up after that going
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: back and becoming a part of the team again. And
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: now she's their mouthpiece again. And she says on that documentary,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I've never seen a conservatorship terminated before. So maybe it's
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: about to happen.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I hope so. Wait, so she was the mouthpiece of
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Britney's team or of Jamie's team?
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: You know why they did that? Fucking optics. They were like,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: it looks like we're a bunch of straight white men
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: oppressing this woman. We better get a woman over here
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: so it'll look fair. And it's like, what are you
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: trying to give us, girl boss? Like, we need more.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Prison guards that are women. Feminism.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: We need more murderers that are women.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Feminism. No. What?
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: No, this lady's gone on TV from Britney's money because Britney,
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: let's just say, pays for all of Jamie's lawyers and
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: pays to be put in this situation.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: So while she had raggedy ass fucking Costco suit, who
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: I personally witnessed eating Cheez-Its out of a Ziploc bag
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: while waiting for court. While she had that schlubby motherfucker
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: in her corner. She was paying for her dad to
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: hire the best legal team money could buy to fight
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: against her.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Which is completely unethical. Hire your own fucking legal team,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: you broke bitch. Like, oh my God, Brittany, you better
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: than me. Cause I might, I might have to hit
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: my dad over the head with a pipe. Like, like
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: we fighting. Like, like, I don't care about the legal stuff.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: In court, if you come into court, I'm going to
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: beat your motherfucking ass. And I'm also going to make
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: sure you don't have no money. I want you to
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: live in squalor for the rest of your life. I'd
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: be like, mama, you better divorce him because if you don't,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: y'all going to be living in a shack because I'm
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: going to take everything. I would go after a civil suit.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I would sue that motherfucker for everything he had.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Like, what? So, continuing.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: A month after being determined and capable, Brittany was back
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: at work. Wow, I thought she had dementia. How she
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: going to remember the steps?
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Taking on a role on How I Met Your Mother.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: What was supposed to be a temporary conservatorship was made
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: indefinite in October 2008 by Judge Gates, with Jamie retaining
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: control over his daughter. Britney continued working, releasing albums, touring,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: and appearing on The X Factor. Britney attended to seek
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: representation from a lawyer, John Eardley, and Jamie Spears launched
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: an attack that destroyed his career as he did not
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: obtain a conservatorship's consent to represent Britney.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Which, you already know.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: So basically, while Brittany's in the hospital, she finds this
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: guy who's like, Judah, get me out of here. I
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: need someone to get me out of here. He shows
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: up in court on Monday. The raggedy lawyer is like, oh, no, no, no.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: She can't hire her own lawyer. No, she doesn't have
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: the capacity. So that guy leaves, right? They issue an
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: order that day saying that Brittany isn't allowed to meet
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: with any other lawyers unless she gets Jamie's permission first. Which.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, the court system is so deeply unethical, but
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: this is just insanity.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Like, what? She can't.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: And also, if she's not of the capacity to hire
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: a lawyer, why y'all got.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Her out here hitting the ones and the twos and
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: singing I'm a slave for you? If she can't work,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: what is happening? Why are you going to make her?
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: She can't work, but you're literally going to write a
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: song for her called Work Bitch?
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Right. Like what? I think she worked that. So what
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: are we doing?
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: In 2011, Britney's charity organization, the Britney Spears Foundation, went bankrupt,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: but not before sending $ 50, 000 to Mercy Ministries, an organization
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: with strong ties to Lou Taylor, Britney's much disliked business
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: manager and Lou's husband. So now they're sending $ 50, 000 to charity.com.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: we know where that money went and it did not
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: go to nobody's charity.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: And this charity is like one of those places where
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: they send girls who are pregnant to convince them that
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: the devil will kill them if they have an abortion
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: and they try to do gay conversion therapy. This is
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: not a good, yeah, not a good place.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: Gay icon, Britney Spears, without her consent, donated a bunch
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: of money to an anti-gay organization.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: So the, The.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Previous year, Lou Taylor had tried to put Lindsay Lohan
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: under conservatorship, perhaps after seeing how lucrative it was to
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: have Britney. So then they were like, let's get all
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: the girls who got some residuals coming.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Let's lock them up and take their money. Which is.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: wild members of britney's team also questioned taylor's financial this
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: is lou taylor financial management during her tours in a
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: quote money was wasted in a particular way and when
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: i asked a question i got shut down because nobody
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: wanted to admit fault so they on tour and they
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: like yeah we're gonna need a couch from living spaces
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: for britney in the in the uh it's on her
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: rider she's also gonna need three lamps from cb2 and
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: um Also, a mortgage payment on my house for the concert.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Like, we're like what are y'all spending money.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: On literally we so part of like for we did
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: this one episode that was just all about her money
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: and we went through like all the accounting reports for
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: the last 12 years britney who's not allowed to drive
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: her alone in her own car is in that situation
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: but her security guards and other people we saw on
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: her accounting reports like hundreds of thousands of dollars a
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: year in auto purchases. So these motherfuckers who are keeping
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: her detained in her own house are driving around in
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: Maseratis and shit while she can't drive.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: During this time, Brittany was isolated from much outside communication.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: She either had friends sneak her phones or borrowed phones
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: from strangers as hers were often taken away, disconnected, or
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: mirrored to her lawyer's phones.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Like this is I'm sorry, guys.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: This is a rough episode because I'm just like, I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: just want to beat everybody's ass.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: That's the general takeaway from most of her story.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, y'all can't just get away with like, oh,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: she's free from the conservatorship.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Blood must be shed.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying kill anybody, but, you know, within inches
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: of their life.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Make them think they gonna die. Like, what the hell?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: I think when Jamie does his walk into jail, all
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: of us should line the streets just tapping umbrellas in
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: our hand.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: We need to go fucking Game of Thrones. I want shame. Shame.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I'll be out there with a bell. Shame.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: Shame.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: And I want people throwing rocks. And not big rocks. Small, tiny,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: painful rocks. As he walks in.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Like i'm gonna be outside selling rocks y'all selling rocks
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: and bales because something has to happen to this man
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: so around 2015 the tone of britney's instagram changed and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: like y'all know britney scram is y'all thing so this
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: is i know y'all know all about this while before
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: it had been mostly impersonal account postings and promo material
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: there now appeared to be an actual person behind the
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: post and that person was actually britney This marked the
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: change in Britney's freedom to communicate with the world and
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: new subject of cultural fascination prompted our guests on the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: show today, right?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: That's why y'all are here.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: So Tess Barker and Barbara Gray created the podcast Britney's
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Gram in 2017. In 2019, Britney went silent on social
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: media for several months following Jamie falling ill and her co-conservatorship,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Andrew Wallet, resigned with $ 100, 000 of a parting payment. The
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: following month, TMZ broke that she had been checked into
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: a mental health facility. Two weeks later, you guys, the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: hosts of Britney's Gram, received an anonymous voicemail from a
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: paralegal previously connected to the conservatorship and alleged that Britney
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: had been at the facility for months, forced there against
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: her will.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: So I remember this. I listened to this episode where
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: you guys had the voicemail.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Do you have any more details about that voicemail?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Or like, obviously, like... Guys, listen to Britney's Gram and
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: you can hear it too.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: But yeah, if it's, you know, the episode 75, it's
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: called hashtag free Britney of Britney's Gram. And we kind
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: of do a good walk up to like what had
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: been going on at the time and, you know, all
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: the stuff that had been going on. But it was wild. Yeah,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: we got it in the, you know, late. Tess was
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: editing late one night, saw this. We just had random
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: voicemails at the end of our show that usually like funny,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: stupid insights into like what we were been talking about.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Because Our show was a comedy show. You know, we
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: talk about her minion memes and shit. And then we
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: got this voicemail from a whistleblower, you know, who'd worked
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: at a law firm involved with Britney's case saying like
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: she's there against her will. She's been there for months,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: confirmed a lot of fears that we all had. And
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: we stayed in contact with him after that via text,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: and he told us some other details. But yeah, we
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: had a huge decision to make, which was like, fuck,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: are we going to put this out into the world?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: It was scary as hell. But we talked, you know,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: with each other, we talked with... legal experts to try
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: and protect ourselves as much as we could. And we
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: just said, all right, let's fucking go for it. We
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: dropped it in the middle of the night.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I love that y'all did that. I just say wild shit.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: And then I'd be like, I'll pay for my Abu
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Gado fund.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I'd be driving around taking pictures of billboards and the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: sides of buses just waiting for the day I get sued.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: So I appreciate y'all's due diligence.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: It was kind of scary because like that episode, we
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: were very careful about being like, yes, allegedly this is
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: what's happening because we knew a lot of people were
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: going to listen to it. But prior to that, we
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: had just been running our mouths. Yeah.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: And Allegedly doesn't cover you legally. I'll be sprinkling Allegedly's.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: In, especially the Sean King episode.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: And then one of my producers was like, I hope
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: you know that doesn't protect you legally.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, well. Oh, fuck.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we dropped it. Because we were scared it would
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: try to get taken down or something. So we dropped
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: it in the middle of the night. And the next morning,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: it was fucking everywhere already.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: It was everywhere. It was so huge.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: And shout out to that paralegal. Y'all, if you want
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: to become a paralegal, just watch daytime TV. They'll tell
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: you what online schools you can go to.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Phoenix. You know, the black man who used to yell
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: at us like, get off your couch.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: It's too much.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: In the afternoon while you don't got no job.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: Come to Everest, you raggedy bitch and be a paralegal
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: or a Billy Nicodin expert. So I love this paralegal
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: who was like, bitch, I ain't got no law degree.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I'm about to tell everything.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Like, I love that. I love that for them.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: So it was during this time that the Free Britney
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: movement really began gaining momentum and conspiracies among fans began
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: developing when her Instagram.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Grew a little strange. There's a hyperlink here. Can y'all
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: click on that for me? So Jamie and Lou Taylor
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: sued fans on defamation after it was alleged that Britney's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: team was altering her Instagram to make it appear like
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: she was mentally unwell. So Britney had a moment where
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: she loved to do these videos. Also, like, Britney.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: low rise pants got a hold on the, like we
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: let them go. They're terrible, but her body is fantastic.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: So she can still wear them, but we all let
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: low rise pants go. We canceled them. I will fight Levi's,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: any store that tries to roll them back out because
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: why I got to show my coochie, the top of
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: my coochie when I'm wearing pants, but she looks so
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: good in them.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: But there's these videos.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: That she's doing where she was like twirling and like
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: walking back and forth and showing off little outfits and stuff.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: And so people thought that this was like strange.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: And the biggest one with this one is people had
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: said in her comments, like, you know... wear a yellow
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: shirt if you need help if you need help wear
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: a yellow shirt so then in this post she's wearing
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: a yellow shirt and she says i was so excited
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: i threw on my favorite yellow shirt so of course
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: everyone just goes.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: Well and at the time even i was like y'all
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: i don't i think that's probably just a coincidence but
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: now that we know that the extent of the recording
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: in the bedroom and the all of that i think
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: it's very likely that she saw that and was like
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: yeah yellow YOLO.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I would also say maybe it's a
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: cry for help because she was like, and I threw
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: on my favorite yellow shirt.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: That's yellow. Yeah, she was really like, wink, wink.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: I'm walking back and forth because I cannot leave.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm wearing the yellow. Like, which means caution tape,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: which means crime. I love this. I love these wings. Now, wait,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: I have to double back test. You said recording in
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: the bedroom. What do you mean about that?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: So this is the New York Times dropped a second
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: documentary the Friday before her hearing. So this is, I guess,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: last week. They on end of September, they dropped a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: second documentary where they spoke with a security person who
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: had deflected from her security team, who had been on
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: the security team for like 10 years. And he broke
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: down all the ways they were surveilling Brittany throughout this time.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: And this is something that Babs and I encountered a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: lot because we talked to a lot of people that
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: are close to Brittany and have known her different periods
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: in her life. And it was like a lot of
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: people would say, I feel like it's bugged every time
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: I talk to her. I feel like our conversations are
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: being surveilled. This security guard said they had an iPad
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: that was signed into her iCloud. So they were monitoring
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: every text, every email. They had her iCloud and... They
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: were recording inside her bedroom.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: He said they recorded over 180 hours in her bedroom.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: In her bedroom.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: That is absolutely unhinged. Also, I learned from football players
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: who be cheating on their wives and girlfriends, you can
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: just turn off, like, iMessage, and then your shit won't
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: go to the cloud.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Because I remember, like, getting green texts and my friends
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: getting green texts from somebody, like, on the Seahawks that
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: we were, like, going to bars and shit with.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: And they were green. And then when I saw him,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, but you got an iPhone.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, yeah, I turned the iMessage
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: thing off so that it don't go to the cloud.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so... But then I.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: Will say you're giving up. You're becoming a green texter then.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's worth it to me.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: That's very embarrassing. It is. Because, like, honestly, if you
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: have green text, I will stop talking to you.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: And that's because I'm in the cult of Apple. They
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: made them such a doo-doo green. I can't look at them.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: And then we're not trying to be in a group
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: text with you getting a separate text every time someone
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: likes something.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: It's so exhausting. Won't y'all just join the cult? I mean, yeah,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: your Android phones are superior. Yeah. And yeah, they're more durable.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, our phones break every other day and they're fully
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: made of glass. But come on, get a blue text.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: So Britney's net worth and the intentional ambiguity about her
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: net worth. Over the last 13 years working, whether she
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: wanted to or not, due to the terms of her conservatorship,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Britney made four albums— did three world tours, and endorsed
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: a number of products and made television appearances. While Britney
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: was on tour in a residency in Las Vegas, she
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: made at times $ 300, 000 a night. On the X Factor,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: she earned $ 15 million. However, regardless of how much money
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: she made, she was only allowed a weekly allowance of $ 2, 000.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: 2,000.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: There's stories of her going to dinner with a friend
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: and not being able to pay.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Like, you're Britney fucking Spears.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Imagine you go to dinner with Britney Spears and she like,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: hold on, let me check my bank account. How much
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: did y'all say it is? Wait, who ordered the margarita?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Because I ain't get no margarita.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Are we splitting this equally? Like, it's Britney fucking Spears.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: And she over here got to buy clothes from Shein
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: and shit because she ain't got no damn money, even
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: though she working.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Like a sling.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: She loves those clothes, though.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: She does, to be fair. But, I mean, that was
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: another thing in this most recent New York Times documentary.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't say Shein was bad. She didn't be having
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: cute clothes.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like— she works so hard and $ 2, 000
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: a week. Like I know to, you know, an average
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: person that sounds like a lot of money, but if
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: you are a world famous person and you want to
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: go hit Mastro's or you want to like live the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: life that you've worked so hard.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: For $ 2, 000 a week, it might be tough. Girl, you
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: can't even get no Valentino's for that.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. Well, when you look at all
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: the money everyone around her is making, too. I mean,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Jamie was making $ 16, 000 a month as her conservator. He
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: also made a percentage of her shows. So he was
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: incentivized to keep her working. Even when she was sick,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: she would come on stage and say, I have a
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: 104-degree fever.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: And he was in charge of her well-being. You know,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: it's just so gross.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: She got on stage and said, I have a 104-degree fever.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: And they were like... and just started the show.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: What yes yes and i mean they were restricting her
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: shit to the point that's another thing they talk about
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: in the new york times documentary that just came out
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: she would be like i want sushi and they'd be
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: like brit sushi's too expensive i'm sorry you can't have
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: sushi i want some sketchers sketchers we're not talking about
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: louboutins sketchers.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get the ones that make your booty tight.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: The ones with the lips. All I want to do is.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Those shape-ups.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: All I want is some shape-ups. She can't get no
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: damn shape-ups. No. Oh, my God. Brittany, I'm so sorry.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Not you can't even get no damn shape-ups. Brittany said,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: I want some Crocs.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: They said, you can have some Crocs, but you can't
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: have no add-ons. You can't have no pins.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: You can't afford that.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: OK, and we gave you last season because you can't
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: afford the new ones.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: We're going to the clearance section. What the hell?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: So despite a massive amount of income, her work has
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: produced Britney Spears. Net worth appears to be 60 million dollars,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: a fraction of her peers. And like that's because she's
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: been getting robbed. Like she get robbed by everybody. How
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: everybody everybody joined up and was like, we all go
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: do a robbery together.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: She's been getting robbed and they also under report her I.P.,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: They are not required. So every year they have these
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: accounting reports that go through the conservatorship. We have read
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: these things line by line by line. They're hundreds of
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: pages long and they're supposed to report out all the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: money she makes. They don't report any of her IP.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: They said, uh, sorry, it's too hard. We can't report it.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: An IP for you guys who don't know is intellectual property. Yeah.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: So that would be like her song royalties. Every time
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: she shows up in a commercial or everything, everything that
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: makes Britney Spears, Britney Spears, her perfumes. Yeah. And a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: perfume empire is like, it's one of the most lucrative
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: perfume empires of any celebrity.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Listen, I will say that like Britney Spears perfume, I
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: personally like didn't like to smell it on myself. But
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: when I would wear that shit, oh, the man would
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: come running.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, you smell so good. Oh, you smell like... You
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: smell like a little, a little sexy teenager. You smell
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: like little red jeans.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: Right. Yeah.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Like she, her perfumes be popping. They're popping. And I'm definitely.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: They made a shitload of money.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: And we talked to an intellectual property expert who said
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: that an average celebrity perfume can bring in $ 20 million
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: a year.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: So this starts to add up to like a shitload
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: of money that's not really being accounted for.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: She had multiple too. What was that? Did she have fantasies?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: She's released 25 since she's been conserved She has over
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: 30 in her name But 25 since she's been conserved.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: And they smell good.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Like, she really probably took Victoria's Secret's perfume out of
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: business because.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm done.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: No more body splash. She single-handedly smashed the body splash.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: She single-handedly ruined body splash.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Because since we all had a body splash back in
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: the day, you had to splash it on your body.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: I tasted sugar vanilla.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: No more.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Not toasted sugar vanilla oh that one had a hold
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: on the girls that was a popular one and one
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: that was fruity that was pink raspberry yes the raspberry
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: yeah i was a raspberry hoe honey why do we.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: Think smelling like vanilla was a good idea we're like
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: just like a straight up cookie.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Listen because yeah then the man would be like oh
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: you smell like a cookie give me that cookie Give
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: me that cookie.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: We wanted to smell edible.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, let me put this brownie body splash on
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: to get.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: The girls to the yard. So.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: So they're not reporting all of her intellectual property, right?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: This is insidious of how conservatorships can work. Basically, any
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: shady dealings are not done behind closed doors. And in
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: this case, the court gave Jamie Spears full permission to
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: not include Britney's highly valuable IP in her assets. Because
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: the court was just like, we doing crime with you.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Like, what do we... We love it.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: So there are records of his spending and everything he
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: was paid from the estate, and it had to be
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: approved by the court. Yet somehow, the only people who
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: truly benefited from any financial decisions were Jamie and team
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: members he helped appoint. As of 2021, Jamie Spears has
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: collected at least $ 5 million from his daughter.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: At least.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: At least.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: They're not disclosing all the income.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: Underlying bull to italicize that because... Yeah, because they're not
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: disclosing everything. So he definitely got more than that. So
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: around half is from.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: The $ 16, 000, as you guys mentioned, monthly conservatorship fee that
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: Britney's required to pay out. In 2014, Jamie positioned the
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: courts to receive compensation from Britney's Las Vegas residency. He
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: petitioned the courts to get that coin, and y'all said this.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: In addition to the allowances and rent allotment he already received,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: he claimed 1.5% of gross revenue from the show and
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: and the merchandise due to creating significant savings and value
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: for the estate through his efforts, quote.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: What? Bitch, you're not contributing shit. Like, Jamie, you have
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: no talent. You suck.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: You are a raggedy, raggedy bitch. You're not even basic.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: You're below basic. Like, you're not even doing the minimum
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: as a human being. Just sucking up all the white
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: man's air. Wasting space.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Get out of here!
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: So during her June 2021 statement, Britney said it makes
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: no sense whatsoever for the state of California to sit
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: back and literally watch me with their own eyes, make
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: a living for so many people and pay so many people,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: trucks and buses on tour on the road with me
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: and being told that I'm not good enough. It's been
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: a long time since I've owned my money and it's
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: my wish and my dream for all of that to end.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was sobbing. I was in the courtroom when
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: she said that, and it was the whole thing. It
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: was just like, yes, girl.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Like, yes.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: To think about what it took for her, the balls
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: it took for her to make that statement, knowing that,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: and this is what happened, that court session ended, and
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: those same motherfuckers were in charge of her. She called
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: 911 on them the day before because she was so scared,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: and she still went ahead with it.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, just.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Like, the California court system, y'all really failed Britney in
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: a way that's just baffling to me. Like, I can't... Like,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: all of y'all... Like, this judge should be disbarred. All
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: of these lawyers should be disbarred. Like, y'all are criminals.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: This is criminal behavior.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: Like....
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: It's a court of law y'all were like vibes laws
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: are vibes like we not yeah yeah we saw what
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: it said in the constitution and we saw what it
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: said in the law but you know that's more of
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: a like a you know it's like a breeze like
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: you can't see it you just feel it like what
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: are y'all doing this is so gross So the beginning
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: of the end of the conservatorship. In September 2019, Jamie
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: stepped down as primary conservator, but retained conservatorship of the estate,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: which like that's all he fucking wanted. He don't give
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: a shit about Britney. He just wanted to steal her
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: fucking money. Despite growing scrutiny and even Sam Ingham showing
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: up to support the Free Britney movement, the conservatorship was
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: extended until September 2021. So one of Jamie's lawyers said
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: during a Good Morning America interview, Brittany knows that her
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: daddy loves her in response to negative comments regarding Jamie.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Note, Brittany is 39. I don't know.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: I can't speak for Brittany, but I don't know if
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: I could love a man who did this to me.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: like i think love is out the window yeah love
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: don't live here anymore no when he showed up oh
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: no love moved out yeah like 13 years ago love
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: left packed a suitcase and dipped love never i don't even.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: Know if love ever showed up to the party because
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: this guy was a fucking abusive piece of shit her.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Not on his side but i'm sure maybe on hers
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: like even if you know you have a parent who's
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: abusive or a romantic partner who is like a lot
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: of times there's still love there so which is not
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: good it's toxic but it's like.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: It's your father mm-hmm.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: It's just so it was also around this time that
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Britney seriously began fighting to have Jamie removed as her
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: conservator entirely. And a judge appointed Bessemer Trust Company of
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: California as a co-conservator and as a bandaid at the
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: request of Britney.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: So she was like, can we at least get.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Somebody who is looking at his spending? Like, can somebody
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: watch him? Because y'all like everybody watching me.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: You know, I go in the bedroom. I can't even
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: get on Pornhub on my phone and have a good
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: time without somebody listening. That's crazy.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: Can we get a screen share on one of these
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: Excel sheets, please?
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Right. The bedroom? I'm like, I can't even
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: fart in peace?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Professional conservator Jodi Montgomery was also appointed as Britney's personal conservator.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: In June of 2021, Britney addressed the court for the
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: first time in two years.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: This is the one that you were at, Tess, right?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: So she gave her own detailed and passionate account about
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: the abuse that she suffered at the hands of her team, family,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: and others over the past 13 years. At the beginning
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: of 2021, Jamie Spears formally filed to terminate the conservatorship, which...
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: What do you think motivated that? Do you think it
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: was like the press? Like, what do you think?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: I think he was, his back was against the wall
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: at that point. So there wasn't really going to be
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: any like, I stick around and get to keep this job.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: And I think he realized that. Now, if he had
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: gotten what he wanted and the conservatorship had just been
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: ended on Wednesday, this hearing that we just went to,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: then it would have been like, from what I understand,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: it would have been like, okay, close up shop, close
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: the door, all set, Brittany, go home. But it would
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: have made it a lot more difficult for Brittany's new
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: lawyer to do discovery against Jamie to get access to
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: all the books and all the sealed communications and all
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: the documents that have been going on for the 13
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: years and go after these guys. So that's why Jamie
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: wanted it to end so he could walk away scot-free.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: So he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, we can get
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: out of this.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: Jamie's over here burning, burning all the paperwork, deleting everything
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: in his computer.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: Throwing his laptops in the ocean.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like Lucy and the Chocolate Factory, just putting Lamborghinis
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: in his mouth and in his pants.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Hide all these gold bricks. I don't know why I
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: bought so many gold bricks. Put that Gucci away. We
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: got to pretend we's poor. And this is a non sequitur.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: But and because we're getting to the end of my information,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: there's still a few more things I want to talk
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: about and then we'll hop.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: To the end of the show.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: But did y'all see Britney Spears' little sister Jamie performing
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: her songs places?
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: I did not watch it, but I did hear about it.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: What was that?
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: Well, Jamie Lynn is her own, like, just a tragic figure.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: An American tragedy.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: And just to also contribute to the stress and duress
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: that Britney was under, I gotta talk about Diane motherfucking Sawyer.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: Please. This raggedy bitch. So there were at the time, you.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Know, Britney was releasing some more. I think that all
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: the girls, the pop girls at this time went through
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: this phase of like.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not Disney anymore. I'm dirty. Like I'm going to
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: put oil in my head and I'm going to be
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Christina Aguilera with some highlight, some blonde hair on top
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: and some black hair on the bottom. And I'm going
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: to roll around in oil and get dirty. Yeah.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: You know, so Britney was doing, like, you know, her
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: music videos and, like, she's a beautiful girl and, you know,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: was wearing gorgeous fits and dancing and shit.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: And.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: There was a politician who was like, I would shoot
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: Britney for what she's doing to our children, which they
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: only put that on women and gay people because men,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: you know, they never get that.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: If we're doing that, Ginuwine should also be shot. And
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: also D'Angelo. He has a full video where he's just naked,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: spinning around, oiled up. And that did a lot for me.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: And that's fine. You know, and you know what?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: For what it's worth, I would like that to continue. Right.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: I would love it. I want everybody to continue to
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: get oiled up and naked. I love to see it.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: But but, you know, so this politician was attacking her.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Diane brought this up in an interview and was like,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: what do you say to this woman who says that
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: she wants to shoot you? Because a lot of people do.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: And Brita was like, well, that's a horrible thing to say, basically.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: And she was like, yeah, but also like, don't you
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: see why people want to shoot you? Like, what the fuck? Yeah, like,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: first of all, you know, we're.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: All like people on the Internet. We've all probably had
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: terrible things said to us. And we mute and block
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: that person. There's always some motherfucker. Can you imagine being
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: on an on-camera interview and this person's like, hey, you know,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: the meanest, most violent person, the shittiest troll has ever said?
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: I'm going to read it back to you because I'm
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: sure that's fun to hear again.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: And I'll be like, now tell me why this is
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: your fault.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: They have a point, right?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: You know what they should shoot you? Like, what the hell?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Diane Sawyer deserves to catch hands. Like, she needed her
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: ass beat for that. Britney was so composed in that interview.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: She was so kind. She was so thoughtful and sweet
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: at the hands of a fucking, like, just disgusting bitch.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: You know what's so gross, too, is, like, They were
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: just they could say anything they wanted to Britney. There
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: was obviously no filter. You know, they constantly were asking
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: her about her virginity. They would say fucked up shit
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: like that to her in interviews. And then she got
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: into the conservatorship with the same team, basically. And they
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: wouldn't allow they that's when they decided, oh, we have
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: stipulations for these interviews. You cannot ask her about her conservatorship.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: They would not let her talk about anything. involving that
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: and how controlled she was so it's like oh cool
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: you'll step in when it'll cover your ass but you'll
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: just totally let her be out there and.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: Let her hang out to dry like who the fuck
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: was her publicist at the time because i'm sorry like
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: in the middle of that diane interview and all those
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: you know interviews about her and justin timberlake also fuck
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: justin timberlake like why did the pr person just step
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: in like interviews over because the fuck exactly like She
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: better than me.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: They were never there. They were never protecting her when
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: she needed it. Ever.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: Well, and I think that's why the Britney story is
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: so infuriating. Because is that not just the story of
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: being a woman in this world? Nobody has your back.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Nobody. Especially as a black woman. Seriously.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Unless they want us to work for them and be
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: their mules. They're like, can y'all get behind this movement, niggas?
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: We will never credit you or pay.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: You for your labor. Like, what?
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: But you need one ounce of help and nobody's there.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: Insane. Insanity.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: So back to this. According to Matthew Rosengart, Britney's lawyer,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: a quote, it appears that Mr. Spears believes he can
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: try to avoid accountability and justice, including sitting for a
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: sworn deposition and answering the discovery under oath, which is why.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: He was like, bye y'all. Like, I got all I
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: can get.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: As of September 29th, 2021, Jamie Spears is no longer
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Britney's conservator. Instead, a public accountant named John Zabel was
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: appointed Britney's temporary conservator at the request of her lawyer.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: It's possible that the conservatorship could be terminated entirely at
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: the November 2021 court hearing. So Babs, what was it
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: like inside the court?
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: It was wild.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, basically, it was unlike any other hearing I've
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: been to because we were pretty sure that there was
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: going to be a good outcome, which it was either
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: going to be that the whole thing was going to
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: end or that Jamie was going to be suspended. So
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: it was unlike any other one we've gone to where
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: you're just like, oh, God, I'm so scared. I mean,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: I was still like had butterflies, but... It was basically
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: Jamie's lawyer arguing, let's just end it. Why don't we
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: just end it? Which you know means that they shouldn't
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: because they're trying to hide some fucked up shit, which
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: is basically what her lawyer said. Rosengart was like, well,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: what do you have to hide? Why don't we suspend
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: him today? Then that means we'll get access to all
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: of his documents, all of his communications with the lawyers.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: And then that way they can actually really go after
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: Jamie in a solid way. So that was the argument
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: back and forth, back and forth. And then, you know,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: The judge said, well, let's suspend Jamie. Let's get this
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: other guy in here. And it was just like, I
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: was so shocked and just... And then Rosengart said, and
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: we're putting on the table a hearing to terminate the
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: conservatorship before her birthday. She turns 40 in December. Yeah.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: I want that for her birthday. November 12th.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: Like, I mean, he said that shit and I was like,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: he's not saying that unless he fucking thinks it's going
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: to happen because he knows the Britney army will have
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: his head if that shit doesn't go down. So I
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: think we're looking at, I think it being terminated very soon.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: Because y'all were the ones who got me on the
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Free Britney movement because I didn't know how bad it
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: was until I started listening to your podcast.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: And I was like, what the hell?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: Like, how did y'all take this beautiful bad bitch with
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: all these talents and managed to extort and rob and scheme?
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: And that's why Jamie's like, OK, are we ending it? OK,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: bye bye.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: Like, yes, he doesn't want trying to sleep away.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Get the shredder!
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: It's literally like he's in the middle of the bank
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: robbery and he's like, JK, LOL, I have a dentist appointment.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: It's not. You already came in here with your gun.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: You can't get out of that. He's got the gun,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: the ski mask. And he was like, oh, oh, is
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: police in here? You know what? I just love to
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: carry a gun and a ski mask. I'm actually getting
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: my getaway, excuse me, car.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get in my car and I'm gonna just go.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: Let's just act like this didn't happen.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Like, what?
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, a thousand percent. It was so obvious.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what happened. They appointed this new guy and,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: you know, knock on wood, but.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: And before we move out of this segment, do you
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: guys have any final thoughts? Like anything that wasn't covered
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: in this? Like what, like any final thoughts about this
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: Britney situation? And I'll go first. I'll give you guys
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: time to think.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: I i.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: Guess my biggest thing is.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: Why did so many people fail her who and and
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: her the lord jamie's lawyers her appointed lawyer like they're
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: all gonna be fucked like we know that but like
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: these judges who gave these rulings who allowed all this
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: shady ass shit to happen like i want names like
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: we we need to harass you for the rest of
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: your fucking life like i want to release snakes at
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: your house every day like what.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's despicable.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that that was just... People were
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: not looking at Britney as a person.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: The judges weren't.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: Nobody was. Nobody was.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: She was a money-making machine, and that is it.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: Well, and like we said, you know, the first... The
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: first hearing when she got into the conservatorship was like
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: 10 minutes long. And we've sat in on days and
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: days watching judges look through conservatorship checks. That's how fast
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: these things are. They have no time. There's 60 cases
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: on the docket a day. So there's obviously blame on
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: the judges, and I think especially Britney's judges. But the
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: whole system is just incredibly fucked up. And the people,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: the victims... don't have much of a chance, you know,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: if they don't have somebody strongly advocating for them.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: So 10 minutes to take someone's entire freedom away. Bitch,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: it'd take longer to get a burrito bowl at Chipotle.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: If you try to go to In-N-Out, you can get
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: three people conserved. You know?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's... Drive-thru conservatorship?
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: They're like, no, don't even get out the car. The
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: judge gonna come to the window. He got the gavel.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: No worries. Like, what? You can pay with your debit.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: It's all good. Yeah.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah. We'll put her in this van afterwards.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: We'll just throw her in this van. Like, what the hell?
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: It's embarrassing.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: But as always, free Britney. And I really hope that
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: this works out because I love Britney Spears. And also Britney. Girl,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: get some revenge.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: Please.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: I think she's going to. Get some revenge for me, sis.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think she's pissed. I think she's ready.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's coming.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: She's coming. First of all, divorce your family.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: Don't ever see them motherfuckers again.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: They all trash.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: She said, I want to sue my entire family. She said,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: I want to sue my whole family.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: As she should.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: Like, I want I want the family to have a
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: reunion and I want somebody to show up in an
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: ice cream uniform and then just hand out papers.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: You're served. You're served. You're served. Like, you know, here's
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: a fudge pop, you bitch.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine how much fun she should recruit like
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: the top members of Britney army to serve them?
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: They would love it.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: That should be like their prize for all their service.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: Brittany, I will get some wigs and some costumes and
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: I will serve whoever you want. I want to be
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: a part of this. I'll be a meter maid just
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: standing at the, they're like, why am I getting a ticket?
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: My meter's still full.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: You're getting served, bitch. Like, I want to have.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: So much fun with this because they all are just
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: despicable human beings. Like, bad people motivated by greed and jealousy.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Gross.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: So, guys, we're going to take a quick break and
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: we'll be back for the saddest part of the show,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: the end.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: Where I have to let Tess and Babs go.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: Robbery!
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: And we're back wow this episode's a long one i
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: hope you guys like a feature-length film right here hope
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: you guys are enjoying it so scammer of the week
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: this is where we highlight a charlatan that's worthy of
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: our praise or maybe not like bitch ass jamie spears
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: both jamies i'm talking about lynn too there's a.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Lot of jamies in this right how.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: You gonna name your daughter after yourself you grow your
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: body what are you doing yeah boring stupid So one
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: Danish museum, and y'all tagged me in this shit on Twitter,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: on Instagram, like I feel like somebody mailed me a letter.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: I got y'all.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: So one Danish museum has been duped by the concept
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: artist who's taking what was supposed to be the art
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: as his payment. So the Kunsten Museum in Aalborg, Denmark
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: commissioned Jens Haining to remake versions of.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: His two earlier works.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: The originals were made of cash on display in Danish
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: krone and Euro banknotes.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: So we have a picture of it.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: So it's basically just a frame and then some very
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: equally placed out monies. And then for some reason, the
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: last line is not finished.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: I guess that's the art of it all.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: Some art shit i don't know.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: Right like when we talked about how art is like
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: heavily used in money laundering and all types of weird
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: shit you know oh yeah Art is a scam, but
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: I love artists. Like, I love y'all. Like, keep doing
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: y'all's art, but I hope y'all out there scamming, too. Like,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: get in on that. So, the originals were made of
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: cash and on display, right? They were meant to represent
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: the average annual income of Danish and Austrian citizens with
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: a combined value of around $ 84, 000. The museum gave Haining
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: $ 84, 000 in banknotes to recreate the pieces, solely to be
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: used as materials and not payment. Haining instead sent the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: museum two empty frames stating in an email that he
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: instead decided to.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: Make new artwork.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: Love it.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: The email, along with many empty frames, are now on display.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: Take the money and run. Haney has no intention of
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: returning the money and says it's a protest against low pay. Reportedly,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: the fee he was to have been paid would still
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: have left him out of pocket.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: Haney hasn't technically broken the contract, but will have to
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: return the money by January 2022.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: First of all. People are looking at this painting. We're
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: literally looking at people looking at a blank canvas.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: Yes. And this is much more compelling than just the
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: canvas with the bills in it.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: And all a museum does is steal shit from black
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: and brown people and put it in nice little cases
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: with good lighting.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: Like, look at all this shit we stole.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: Like, now you're getting more people to traffic your museum
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: to look at a blank canvas that made world news.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: He should win the.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: Money back yeah I think this guy's brilliant I think
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: he should be celebrated I look forward to the rest
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: of his work I mean he made a piece it's
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: the artist's decision what the ultimate piece ends up being.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah you can't be like oh I asked for this
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: artwork from this artist and then they gave me something
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: different like it's art right and honestly y'all over here
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: branding it talking about take the money and run so
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: people will come look at a blank ass canvas y'all
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: getting museum fees you know what's the problem Also, he
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to make that much money.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: And it was, what, $ 80, 000?
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: And he said he was.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: Going to come out of pocket if he had made
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: the art like they wanted.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't have even made what he was supposed to make.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: No, the real scam, this is the story of a
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: failed scam, of the museum trying to scam the artist
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: and the artist flipping the scam around, becoming the scammer,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: and becoming a better artist for it.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: Fantastic move.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: I love it. Fantastic.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: I'm glad we had a bright spot at the end
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: of the show because I.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Just want to know.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: I wish I had all the names right now so
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: I could read them out because I just want like
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: the worst stand group to harass them like the Barbs.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: The Barbs are a very aggressive stand group. They're really awful.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: So I want the Barbs to get a hold of
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: this to ruin these men's lives.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: But, guys, that brings us to the end of our show.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: We always ask on the show, where do you want
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: to be found?
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: So, Tess, we'll start with you. Where do you want
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: to be found in anything you want to promote?
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find me on my socials. It's Testify
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: with two S's. Testify Barker on everything. And please listen
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: to my podcasts, Lady to Lady and Toxic, the Britney
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: Spears story, which is me and Babs' like deep, like
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: serious investigative kind of part.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: It's like a 10-part story.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: We go in.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: If you want to know anything about the story, we
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: tell it there.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: All the juicy details and all the crazy details as well.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: And Babs, where would you like to be found?
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Babs Gray on Twitter, Babs Gray on Instagram. And
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: we both host a few comedy shows in L.A. Lady
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: to Lady has a show first Sunday of every month.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: Come check those out sometime. And yeah.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Y'all are very funny. I had so
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: much fun doing your podcast. Lady to Lady is really fun.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: Y'all should listen. Listen to both these podcasts. They're great.
• 1:37:23
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• 1:37:24
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• 1:37:27
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• 1:38:03
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