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Bill Riley on Utah's Big 12 schedule, Runnin Utes final rivalry game of the year tomorrow + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: to one a half m.
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  Speaker 2: That's Bill Riley's music, which means we're checking in with
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  Speaker 2: the voice of the Utes. Former host of the ESPN
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred show in this time slot, Bill Riley joins
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  Speaker 2: us most fridays, and he's here again.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Bill, how are you?
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  Speaker 4: Seanam great? How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing okay.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a big time Holy War basketball rivalry game
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  Speaker 2: this time happening in Provo on the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: You can hear that call right here at ESPN seven hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Riley will be on it, as is always the case,
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  Speaker 2: and the last time we saw these two teams square off,
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  Speaker 2: it was a hard fought battle right down to the end.
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  Speaker 2: No secret that from a talent standpoint, the Running Utes
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  Speaker 2: are a little bit overmatched, but they made that one
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  Speaker 2: a game and there were opportunities where the outcome could.
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  Speaker 3: Have been different.
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  Speaker 2: As they go on the road this time, how can
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  Speaker 2: they try to replicate some of the successes they had
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  Speaker 2: but maybe get over the hump in a hostile environment.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they have to play as hard as they played
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  Speaker 5: in that game, Sean. That was the thing about that
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  Speaker 5: game against BYU, And it always helps when you're at
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  Speaker 5: home and you've got a huge home crowd behind you.
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  Speaker 5: It was a sellout that day and all of that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But they really really brought the effort in that game
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  Speaker 5: and didn't dig themselves an early hole, and they played,
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  Speaker 5: for the most part, really smart basketball. So that's where
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  Speaker 5: it's got to start, because when you go on the road,
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  Speaker 5: you know this, it doesn't matter if it's football or basketball,
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  Speaker 5: or soccer or baseball. You have to ratchet it up
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  Speaker 5: just a little bit more. So they're gonna have to
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  Speaker 5: play at least as hard as they did at home.
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  Speaker 5: But what they're gonna have to do a little bit
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  Speaker 5: better than they did at home is you can't allow
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  Speaker 5: extra possessions for a team like BYU. Richie saw Us
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  Speaker 5: had six offensive rebounds in that game. You can't let
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  Speaker 5: anybody have six offensive rebounds, but you certainly can't allow
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  Speaker 5: a guard to come up with six offensive rebounds. That
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  Speaker 5: buys you extra possessions and buys you extra buckets. So
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  Speaker 5: I think that the game plan that they had was
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  Speaker 5: very solid. Rob Wright had a really good game. Richie
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  Speaker 5: Saunders had a really good game. Aj Debonsa, by his standard,
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  Speaker 5: had a kind of an average game, which most people
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  Speaker 5: would love to have an average game, But you talk
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  Speaker 5: did a pretty good job on him. They made him
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  Speaker 5: kind of earn his points from the free throw line.
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  Speaker 5: But they have to bring the same type of effort,
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  Speaker 5: if not maybe even a little bit more than what
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  Speaker 5: they did at home to go down to Prolo tomorrow
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  Speaker 5: and compete with Byu.
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  Speaker 2: Gianu Dawes in the first matchup was not really able
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  Speaker 2: to get himself going from a scoring standpoint, So you
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  Speaker 2: just you pointed out the fact that Byu ended up
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  Speaker 2: with three guys and had scored twenty or more points.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously you can't count on that every single night.
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  Speaker 2: But in this game, the first time out, Utah had
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  Speaker 2: great production offensively from Terrence Brown, great production from Don
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  Speaker 2: mch henry, and then not really the third option to
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  Speaker 2: emerge off the bench or from elsewhere in the starting
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  Speaker 2: lineup to kind of give him that it doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: to be twenty, but to give them that double digit
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  Speaker 2: score to kind of add to your main horses. Is
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  Speaker 2: that something that we could see hopefully see in the
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  Speaker 2: trip to Marriott Center.
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  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, I will say this, and Daws' numbers,
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  Speaker 5: scoring numbers weren't big in that first game. I think
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  Speaker 5: he had seven points and five rebounds. He only took
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  Speaker 5: six shots. He drew a lot of the assignment on
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  Speaker 5: Debonsa and that that's a handful right there. But to
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  Speaker 5: your point, yeah, they've they've got to get a little
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  Speaker 5: bit more offensively out of him. You know, you'd like
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  Speaker 5: to get a little bit more out of a guy
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  Speaker 5: like Saydu Triori as well. Saydu had a really nice
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  Speaker 5: game at Kansas State the other night, So if you
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  Speaker 5: can get a little bit more out of him. But
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  Speaker 5: I'll guy, that's important for them, and it's not so
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  Speaker 5: much in a scoring standpoint. It's James the Konkuo. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: Kankuo played arguably his best game of the year against BYU.
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  Speaker 4: The first time around. He only had four points, but
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  Speaker 4: what he had.
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  Speaker 5: Was thirteen rebounds and four offensive rebounds. And for a
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  Speaker 5: team that doesn't have a great deal of size playing
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  Speaker 5: against the BYU team that rebounds it very well with
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  Speaker 5: Cata and the new kid that they brought in from
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  Speaker 5: the G League. Then I mentioned Ritchie Saunders and debonsa earlier.
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  Speaker 5: I think a guy like a Conquo has got to
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  Speaker 5: stay out of some foul trouble, but he's got to
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  Speaker 5: be the same type of a force that he was
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  Speaker 5: on the glass in the first game to give Utahn
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  Speaker 5: opportunity to go down to be with BYU and be
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  Speaker 5: really competitive and push that game late like they did
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  Speaker 5: at home.
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  Speaker 2: I was very impressed with the Conquo in that first game.
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  Speaker 2: Like you already said, the rebounds, I talked about it
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  Speaker 2: way too much. But when he decided to go up
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  Speaker 2: on a charging right down the center lane aj to
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  Speaker 2: Bonsa and challenge that dunk and ended up getting the
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  Speaker 2: block there, it was kind of an inflection point, an
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  Speaker 2: emotional inflection point in the game. And it was a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a statement like, yeah, you guys are the talented,
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  Speaker 2: that he might be the number one overall pick or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: but we're not going to give you anything free. And
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  Speaker 2: that felt like something that was pretty important from the
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  Speaker 2: Alex Jensen standpoint, like when he's trying to establish his
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  Speaker 2: culture and a team that reminds us of how he
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  Speaker 2: used to play. That was a moment that I think
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  Speaker 2: highlighted that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Yeah, because if he doesn't do that. If you
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  Speaker 5: remember the play, the Bonsa left from right inside the
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  Speaker 5: foul line, he had that arm cocked back at about
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  Speaker 5: a forty five degree angle, and he was going to
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  Speaker 5: go on a Sports Center Top ten play and try
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  Speaker 5: to bring the house down and a concuo. You know,
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  Speaker 5: even if he stops the dunk, it makes a statement
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  Speaker 5: like nothing easy here. But for him to have gone
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  Speaker 5: up and blocked that shot, it's like, Okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We're here. We're going to compete with you.
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  Speaker 5: We know what the headline say, but this is kind
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  Speaker 5: of our house and we're going to be there. And
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  Speaker 5: James's played, I mean, he's in his sixth year of
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  Speaker 5: playing college basketball. Sean, he played at West Virginia for
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  Speaker 5: a couple of years. He played at North Carolina, he
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  Speaker 5: played at Akron, so he's been in the Big twelve.
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  Speaker 5: He's played against big time players. So you're going to
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  Speaker 5: need that from him. You know, the freshman Kendall Sanders
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  Speaker 5: be nice to get a little bit out of him
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  Speaker 5: at nine points in that first game too, And he
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  Speaker 5: came in from IMG played a lot of big time
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  Speaker 5: opponents there, so you know, Utah doesn't have you know,
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  Speaker 5: a big three like BYU's big three. They've got a
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  Speaker 5: good big two. Terrence Brown and Don McHenry can score
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  Speaker 5: the basketball with anybody in the country, but they don't
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  Speaker 5: have quite the overall less So they've got to do
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  Speaker 5: it collectively. And if they can get the same type
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  Speaker 5: effort that they got in that first game and maybe
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  Speaker 5: you know, don't give up a couple of possessions with
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  Speaker 5: offensive rebounds, I'd love their opportunity to get into that
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  Speaker 5: second half with you know, eight ten minutes to play
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  Speaker 5: and still be in that ball game. So I think
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  Speaker 5: it'll be fun tomorrow, especially because they've seen him once already.
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  Speaker 5: It was only two weeks ago and they played well,
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  Speaker 5: So we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: Since the last time we talked to, Utah was able
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  Speaker 2: to secure their first Big twelve victory under Alex Jensen
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  Speaker 2: eighty two seventy nine against TCU. Unfortunately, they didn't build
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  Speaker 2: on that momentum and they ended up losing a close
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  Speaker 2: one to Kansas State. But focusing on TCU and kind
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  Speaker 2: of getting that monkey off the back. Now you've got
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  Speaker 2: a Big twelve win under your new head coach. How
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  Speaker 2: significant is that do you think for the team moving forward.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's significant. It would have been even more so
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  Speaker 5: had they been able to secure that win the other night.
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  Speaker 5: That game of Kansas State was there for the taking
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  Speaker 5: for them. A couple of possessions here and there, a
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  Speaker 5: couple of little mental mistakes here and there. Maybe if
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  Speaker 5: you guard just a little bit better, that that game
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  Speaker 5: might have been yours and that would have been a
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  Speaker 5: back to back road wins, would have been, you know,
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  Speaker 5: back to back wins, one on the road, one at home,
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  Speaker 5: and then you've got a little bit more win at
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  Speaker 5: your back. Yet they're they're they're they're competing, they're playing hard,
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  Speaker 5: they're competing. But boy, if you could have grabbed that
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  Speaker 5: k State win to back it up after the TCU win,
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  Speaker 5: I think you'd feel a lot better about things. So
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  Speaker 5: we'll see how it plays tomorrow. You know, there's incremental improvement.
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  Speaker 5: You're seeing it. If you watch this team game in
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  Speaker 5: and game out the way I do. You've seen them
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  Speaker 5: improve from the beginning of the year till right now
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  Speaker 5: under what Alex is doing. But you know, you'd like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, there's no easy games in the Big Twelve.
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  Speaker 5: There just aren't. And so when you have that opportunity
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  Speaker 5: to grab a win. You'd love to see your team
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  Speaker 5: be able to come take it, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: about that here in just a second. No moral victories.
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  Speaker 2: You want to get the win down in provo. But
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  Speaker 2: we know that these two teams are right now, they're
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  Speaker 2: kind of at different levels of their progression under new
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  Speaker 2: head coaches Alex Jensen in his first year establishing his
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  Speaker 2: culture and changing this program's future around. We hope Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Young is a couple of years into his project and has,
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  Speaker 2: as far as we're aware, some of the most robust
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  Speaker 2: financial support that you can find in all of college basketball.
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  Speaker 2: So it's apples to oranges on some of that front.
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  Speaker 2: And you still got to find a way to win.
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  Speaker 2: But what is a what is an acceptable performance if
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  Speaker 2: not a win? Look like from Utah basketball on the
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  Speaker 2: road at BYU.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's what I just said. I think it's
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  Speaker 5: competing and not you know, let's just use the Arizona
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  Speaker 5: game for an example. You know, they were down eighteen
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  Speaker 5: at the half. They didn't play terribly in the first half.
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  Speaker 5: Arizona played unbelievably, but they came out in the second
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  Speaker 5: half and played the number one team of the country.
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  Speaker 5: And they're the best team I've seen so far this year.
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  Speaker 5: Dead even to you know, to a stalemate in the
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  Speaker 5: second half. I'm not saying you want to get down
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  Speaker 5: eighteen at the Marriott Center tomorrow, But what I'm saying
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  Speaker 5: is competing for forty minutes, giving your best effort for
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  Speaker 5: forty minutes. You know, it's like anything else, whether it's
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  Speaker 5: your kids in school, and you know they come home
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  Speaker 5: with a report card that's got to be in a
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  Speaker 5: C on it.
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  Speaker 4: But if they gave it their very.
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  Speaker 5: Best and that's the best they could possibly do, well,
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  Speaker 5: then you're.
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  Speaker 4: Happy with that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Alex is not a moral victory guy. He says that
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  Speaker 5: to me all the time, and he's as frustrated with
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  Speaker 5: these losses because you know, he's a winner, he's a competitor.
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  Speaker 4: But if your team is.
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  Speaker 5: Giving you everything they have and they're playing and maxing
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  Speaker 5: out what they have and competing and going toe to
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  Speaker 5: toe with one of the best teams in the country.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's what a victory looks like. Would you
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  Speaker 5: like to be have the victory on the scoreboard, Absolutely,
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  Speaker 5: But if your team goes down and competes their tails
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  Speaker 5: off for forty minutes and they're in the game in
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  Speaker 5: the second half, giving themselves a chance to win. You know,
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  Speaker 5: he won't say that publicly because he's not a believer
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  Speaker 5: in moral victories, But to me, playing really hard, playing
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  Speaker 5: really smart, and playing toe to toe with the top
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  Speaker 5: ten team is a good effort on Saturday night.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: Since we last spoke, we also had the Big twelve
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  Speaker 2: football schedule released.
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  Speaker 3: Utah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to be realistic and I'm trying to temper expectations,
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  Speaker 2: and then I see the slate, I see how this
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  Speaker 2: thing lays out, and I'm like, well, you got to
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  Speaker 2: start the season six and oh, you're probably going to
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  Speaker 2: be favored in at least five of those first six games,
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  Speaker 2: and you got the only bye week of the season
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  Speaker 2: in there, and then week eight. I think Houston has
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  Speaker 2: some talent, and obviously BYU week ten and you finish
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  Speaker 2: with a couple of tough matchups. But if I'm Morgan Scallion,
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  Speaker 2: I know coaches don't think this way. But if I'm
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  Speaker 2: Morgan Scallion, I see this schedule for my very first
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  Speaker 2: year at the HELM, I'm like, well, the conference could
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  Speaker 2: have treated me worse that you dodge Texas Tech, you
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  Speaker 2: dodge Arizona State in the regular season.
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  Speaker 3: I think it lays out nicely for the US.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think I do too, Sean? Now, you've
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  Speaker 5: got seven home games this year, which is cool? Eight
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  Speaker 5: only the one by week it's early October, maybe like
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  Speaker 5: a little bit later, but I will say this, they
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  Speaker 5: have a tough stretch. That stretch at Cincinnati, Arizona, TCU, Houston,
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  Speaker 5: and BYU. That five game stretch from what is it
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  Speaker 5: late October through mid November.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's not an easy stretch.
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  Speaker 5: But you're missing Texas Tech, You're missing Kansas State, you're
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  Speaker 5: missing Arizona State.
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  Speaker 4: You know Arkansas. This is one of those ones that.
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  Speaker 5: Looks really good on paper, but they were two and
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  Speaker 5: ten and oh to eight, and they fired their head
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  Speaker 5: coach early in the season last year, so that's gonna
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  Speaker 5: be a whole new coaching staff coming in.
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  Speaker 4: I like this schedule for Utah.
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  Speaker 5: I really do, and I think having Houston at home
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  Speaker 5: and BYU at home are big games. Going to Arizona
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  Speaker 5: in November.
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  Speaker 4: That's not going to be an easy game.
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  Speaker 5: Noa Felfida and Arizona's given Utah fits in recent years.
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  Speaker 5: But I overall think this is a really good schedule,
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  Speaker 5: and I you know, I could absolutely see this as
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  Speaker 5: a ten win schedule and a ten win slate this year,
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  Speaker 5: maybe more, depending on how things come together. It's way
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  Speaker 5: too early because everybody's got questions right now, but I
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  Speaker 5: don't think that this is a wildly difficult schedule for
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  Speaker 5: the youths Now Again, maybe I'm proven wrong. Maybe some
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  Speaker 5: teams pop up that we didn't see last year. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not sure we saw Houston being a ten win team.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure a lot of us saw Arizona.
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  Speaker 4: Being a ten win team. So we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 5: But I do think that the twenty twenty six football
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  Speaker 5: schedule shapes up pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Good for the youth b YU scheduled in Week ten. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I did my rant about this. It's the best rivalry
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  Speaker 2: game you've got left in the Big twelve.
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  Speaker 3: It should be in rivalry weekend.
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  Speaker 2: But then, you know, the conference makes the case that
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  Speaker 2: if you put it here, it's more nationally showcased and
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't get lost in some of the other rivalry games.
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  Speaker 2: Are we ever going to see the Holy War played
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  Speaker 2: at the final week of the season?
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  Speaker 3: Again?
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  Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I see the argument what the conference says.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if you're looking around the country and seeing
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  Speaker 5: what other games are, maybe it does get more prominently showcased,
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  Speaker 5: and that maybe that's what's most important for the Big
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  Speaker 5: Twelve Conference. I'm like you, you know, I you know,
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  Speaker 5: the Big Ten puts their biggest rivals at the end
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  Speaker 5: of the year.
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  Speaker 4: The SEC puts some of their biggest rivals at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the year.
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  Speaker 5: It's almost like the Big Twelve kind of waves the
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  Speaker 5: white flag and says, nah, we don't want to compete
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  Speaker 5: with you guys. We're gonna take and put one of
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  Speaker 5: our biggest rivalries, if not our biggest conference rivalry on
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  Speaker 5: November the seventh.
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  Speaker 4: But if I'm not mistaken, don't they.
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  Speaker 5: Play the Arizona Arizona State Game at the end of
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  Speaker 5: the year. Yes, they do, So why no offense to
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  Speaker 5: the Territorial Cup but I don't think it has the
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  Speaker 5: same juice that Utah BYU does. And I know those
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  Speaker 5: schools hate each other.
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 5: I know those schools hate each other. But I think
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  Speaker 5: if you talk to people, even around the country, most
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  Speaker 5: people would tell you that Utah BYU is a bigger
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  Speaker 5: rivalry than Arizona Arizona State is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The rivalry games played in Week thirteen this year are
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  Speaker 2: Kansas State. Oh, no, excuse me, Kansas State's playing Iowa State. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so Farmageddon is being played, Territorial Cup is being played
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  Speaker 2: in Rivalry week and the of course long standing BYU
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati rivalry is being played in Week thirteen. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if TCU Texas Tech really counts, we
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  Speaker 2: would call it that, but that's an in state game.
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  Speaker 2: And beyond that, it's just those two I already mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: So the Big twelve is not embracing the competition of
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  Speaker 2: rivalry weekend.
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  Speaker 4: It appears well, yeah, but here's what I will say.
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  Speaker 5: If November seventh gives Utah on DYU the big showcase
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  Speaker 5: and we get one of those great prime Fox or
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  Speaker 5: ABC or ESPN windows, I'm okay with that. I would
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: much rather play that than if you said, well, we
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: could play on November twenty.
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  Speaker 4: Eighth, but you'll be in the eight to fifteen.
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  Speaker 5: Mountain time time slot. I would rather be on November seventh,
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: in a prime slot where the country can see him,
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: because I'm pretty sure that could be a top fifteen
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: matchup by the time those two teams get together, maybe
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: even better than that.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: On November seventh, just got an email about the University
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: of Utah new baseball facility grand opening ceremony going to
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: be happening next Wednesday. It looks like you're a baseball
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: guy and you're a Utah guy, Bill, this is your
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: world's coming together.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'll be in seeing that ribbon cutting on
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: next week. The American first Ballpark, Charlie Montford Field, it's.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: A big deal. I walked through it a couple of
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: weeks ago, Sean. It's beauty.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: First of all, it's a brand new ballpark, it's right
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: on campus. It's the views of the mountains through Sunnyside
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: Park are spectacular, and it's going to be really cool.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean Smith's Ballpark or you know, all
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: its different iterations over the years downtown. That was a
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: wonderful baseball stadium, but it wasn't Utahs.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: They were sharing it with the Bees, and it was
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: frankly way too big for a college baseball stadium. But
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: it was a nice home. But to have your own
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: place on campus with the views and the students nearby
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: and everything else, it's gonna be fantastic and I'm looking
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: forward to I haven't seen the finished product yet.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: We'll see that.
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  Speaker 5: Next Wednesday because they're finishing everything up for the grand
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: opening and then the first game in March. But yeah,
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be pretty spectacular.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Real quick.
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  Speaker 2: What's your Super Bowl matchup prediction as we head into
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: AFC NFC Championship weekend.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: I had Bill's Rams about a week ago. That's clearly
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: not going to happen.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: I'm going to say Patriots Seahawks. I think we get
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: a rematch of that game that.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Pete Carroll should have run the football on on the
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: goal line.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: I liked the Rams lot, but boy, Seattle in Seattle,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: the way they're playing right now. The only thing that
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: bothers me about that pick is I'm not sure if
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: I completely trust Sam Darnold, and he has played terribly
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: against the Rams this year, and it would be just like,
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: you know, Sean Payton, the coach of a backup quarterback.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: But I think Rabel's got something pretty good going with
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: the Patriots. It's hard for me to see Jared Stidham
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: winning an AFC championship game. So I'm gonna go. I'm
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: gonna go Patriots and Seahawks.
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  Speaker 4: Who are your picks? By the way for the Super Bowl?
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I just was going off about how everyone's just
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: acting like losing bo Nicks is not a big deal
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: for the Broncos and Jared Stidham has not attempted any
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: passes for the last two seasons, so I would like
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to see this utes laden Broncos roster move on. But
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be the Patriots, and I
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: got a ride with our guy Eric Weddle and support
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the Rams here. I'd rather see the Rams do it
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: than the Seahawks, although they are both divisional rivals of
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers, so it's a tough
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: pill to swallow on either front. But you know Matthew Stafford,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and he's not getting any younger. His window might be
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: closing sooner than later. I'd like to see him get
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: another opportunity at it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, you know what I think too.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I just watching this year. Mike Rabel's a really good coach.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, he is a it's amazing. He took over
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: a team that was.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: A dumpster fire under DRAWDMEO last year, and it's not
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: like they're laden with a bunch of superstar players on
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: that team. I just think Vrabel's a really good coach.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I think he is.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: And there should be some kind of penalty that you
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: have to pay if you're a team that fires a
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: coach and then his next stop he goes to a
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: super Bowl. The Titans have got to be feeling real
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: stupid right now.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, but that's kind of been the Titans MO
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: for a long time.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: That's Bill Riley. He's the voice of the youth.