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The Strangers: Chapter 1 – Xenomania 58 · Xenomania

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  Jon: This week on Xenomania, join us as we explore the world of the Strangers,
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  chapter one, Renny Harlan Directed.
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  So we're gonna get a little bit of an exploration of Freddy Harlan movies
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  and a lot of side trips on this one.
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  So sit back and enjoy a
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  Ryan: I don't like it when they advertise.
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  It's gonna be a new thing.
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  and it's not just, like this.
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  Welcome ladies and gentlemen to Xenomania.
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  And today we are covering the strangers.
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  Chapter one.
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  Jon: Only chapter one
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  Kearns: Just chapter one.
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  Ryan: No, just
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  Jon: probably ever.
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  I have a feeling by the time we're done talking about this, none of us
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  is gonna wanna watch the next two.
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  Ryan: I'm curious because it, again, we're talking about trilogies the last time.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, sometimes you can have a weak opening, which we'll get to it
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  of with this one, but maybe chapter two has a different follow up
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  because it is following a new story.
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  way di well, different but very similar to the original one.
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  That was in 2008.
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  Jon: I mean, when your movie is three masked people invading a home and
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  slicing up the couple people, there's only so much room for originality in it.
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  you could argue that there wasn't even really a point in
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  rebooting this, that this sh you know, just make another sequel.
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  Kearns: the money without having to.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: a new script.
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  That's pretty
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  I.
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  Ryan: basically
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  Jon: guess, I mean, it's, it's not, um, cabin fever being remade.
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  It shot for shot, but you know, you've seen this movie, if
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  you've seen the First Strangers.
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  Ryan: a hundred percent,
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  Kearns: don't really see much, I don't see enough different with it to
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  make any like major comments on it.
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  I think that there's less suspense in this one compared to the first one.
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  I think the first one was trying to be more suspenseful.
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  Ryan: yes.
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  Kearns: a little bit more
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: but even that's kind of a stretch to point out.
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  Ryan: There, is one thing I did like is they expand on their faith, like what
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  they believe in because they hint at it.
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  In the original one in 2008, I've seen bits and pieces
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  of the sequel Pray at night.
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  but seeing how they expand it in this one, I feel like their faith
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  is like a big expansion, especially with them having their own, just God.
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  It's just Christianity, Chris Christianity and Roman Catholicism,
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  Kearns: Roman Catholicism,
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  Ryan: Christianity,
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  Kearns: little Constantinople stuff.
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  I don't know how that fits their, actions, but, uh, I'm gonna be like the dude
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  from big lab could be like nihilist man.
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  Ryan: everyone's a sinner according to them, and it, makes a point when.
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  in the beginning, this young couple, um, Maya and her boyfriend
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  Ryan are just traveling to Oregon.
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  Maya's got a new job.
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  She's got an interview.
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  Ryan's going along for the ride.
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  He's like really into it, like it seems like she's forced him.
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  He's like, comfortable.
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  I could say she wants more.
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  And as they're at the diner, the big question is are they married?
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  And when they say no, that's when kind of everything turns
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  like, uh, you live in sin.
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  Jon: Well, yeah, but it almost feels like the whole being an
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  outsider in that town is the sin,
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  Ryan: oh, I can see that
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  Jon: you know, that you're not from here.
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  this seems like a very insular community and they're not gonna be
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  welcoming of Amaya and especially Orion.
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  Kearns: was waiting for somebody to do that.
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  That was pretty good.
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  That was pretty good,
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  Ryan: it's this.
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  This, Ryan is far different from me.
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  He's egotistical.
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  Narcissist
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  Kearns: is,
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  Ryan: no heart.
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  Kearns: movie is New place.
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  Second movie is Airbnb.
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  Right.
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  Our remake is Airbnb.
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  Ryan: Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  Well,
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  Jon: Yeah, it's a air,
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  Ryan: I'd say
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  Jon: Airbnb, vrbo, you know, that kind of situation.
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  Yeah.
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  And is,
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  Kearns: but everybody says Airbnb,
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  Jon: yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  As, as secluded as you can possibly be.
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  You know?
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  I don't know, maybe ask if there's a hotel in town if your car breaks down.
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  Ryan: hold that
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  Kearns: the Airbnb scaries.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: just to say that.
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  Jon: I, and I,
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  Kearns: Poppy.
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  Jon: I mean, barbarian hits them better.
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  Ryan: Yeah, it did.
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  Kearns: This movie compared to Barbarian
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: so we're not gonna do that.
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  the Airbnb thing also leads to another character.
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  I don't remember the 2008 one as vividly as I'd like to.
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  The Airbnb owner catches it in this movie,
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Which is similar in the original, where the best friend
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  gets it for similar things.
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  you were mentioning in the original, it's like their cabin up in the
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  woods and they're coming up from a, like a wedding and guy proposes
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  to Liv Tyler, I forgot the actor's name, but he proposes to Liv Tyler.
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  She says, no.
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  And it's similar in that vein with, this one, definitely with that whole
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  concept of relationships and stuff, the comfortability, you know, trying to out
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  we outgrow, should we grow together?
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  it's just a little less in your face in this one.
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  Yeah.
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  Jon: Yeah, I, mean, you get, Ryan agreeing that if she gets the job
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  in the new city, he'll go like he's willing to relocate for her.
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  And then the proposal, so like he's, Ryan is committed.
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  Ryan is just sort of, I think the best way to describe him is maybe urban douchey.
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  Kearns: I believe it's.
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  Ryan: I agree with that.
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  Jon: Like he's, he's, he's not a bad guy necessarily, but he's in a spot where he
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  believes he's better than these people.
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  And maybe he is, but
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  Kearns: oh, that's so
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  Jon: yeah.
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  Kearns: I'm better than you.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: drinking Budweiser.
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  He bought Budweiser.
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  He was accepted
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  Jon: mean, look at where he is.
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  Do you think there's anything besides Budweiser in that town?
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  Kearns: Triple Point
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  Ryan: Yingling
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  Kearns: out there.
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  Jon: He's not getting yingling in there either.
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  Ryan: Yingling.
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  Ah.
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  Jon: May, maybe a, maybe a blue room.
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  Maybe a PBR?
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  Kearns: So PBR is, is goaded status, but it's, also a garbage beer.
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  but it's
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: we've embraced that so much that we put it on a
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  pedestal, like, rolling Rock,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: Blue Moon, not Blue Moon, like, um, Labat Blue and stuff.
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  Those are all bad.
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: they're
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Kearns: bad.
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  Jon: PPBR got the, urban douchey.
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  I'm slumming it beer status.
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  Kearns: then people started crushing those and rednecks and hipsters like a good PBR.
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  Good.
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  99 cent.
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  PBR Can
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: Mm
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  Jon: personally, I prefer the champagne of beers.
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  Your, your Miller.
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  Kearns: it Miller
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Miller.
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  Highlight.
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  Kearns: would swipe 'em
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  Ryan: Miller.
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  Kearns: my friend's dad, Mr. P, if you're watching this.
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  Yes.
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  It was us.
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  Jon: Go down So quick and easy.
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  Ryan: why there was five beers short every time.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Ryan: missed that 1 24 pack that weekend,
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  Kearns: That's
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  Ryan: Kurt.
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  Kearns: have figured out from all this is like, why spend, I spend
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  29 99 on a 24 rack of Yingling, which is good, by the way.
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  I like the
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: tastes.
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  It goes down easy.
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  It's a good
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: after you've like, uh, mowed the lawn kind of one.
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  Ryan: Yep,
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  Kearns: realized like, you might as well just get or Bud Bud Light
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  because it's, well, bud Bud's up there too but half the price 'cause
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  you're getting the same quality.
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  And then
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: to the
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  Ryan: yep.
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  Kearns: dispensary and pick out the ones that are made in all
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  these local breweries that point,
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: then you're on a different tier.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: It is just a grape
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  Jon: I mean, back, back in the day, it was Milwaukee's best.
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  I mean, that was like a, that was a, yeah, that was like a 5 99 case
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  right there when I, was in college.
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  Kearns: adjacent right
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  Jon: Uh huh.
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  Ice House, Natty Ice.
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  Kearns: I was there it was
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  Jon: Keystone
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  Kearns: Malt Liquor.
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  Uh, it said brace for the smooth taste.
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  It tasted like you were drinking broken glass.
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  Yeah, it was.
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  It made cold
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  Ryan: I can't.
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  Kearns: look like a distinguished gentleman's beverage, but
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  Jon: Cold 45 is a rough drink, man.
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  Kearns: a 40
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  Ryan: It's good.
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  Jon: Yeah, it's a rough drink.
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  Kearns: yeah.
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  Ryan: It's the malt.
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  Kearns: I'm so
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  Ryan: You just got to,
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  Kearns: of that crap anymore.
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  Ryan: I God Imagine
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  Kearns: and at this point
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  Ryan: 40 and a cigarette.
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  Kearns: a tangent for
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  Ryan: I,
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  Kearns: but I feel like that's the kind of stuff
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  Jon: We sure did.
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  Kearns: Well, we're a bunch of
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  Ryan: that's.
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  Kearns: dudes on a snowy day, been shoveling all day.
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  We're just like, beer would be nice.
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  Jon: Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah.
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  It'd be a nice day if it wasn't so cold and snowy to sit out with a beer
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  and a cigar and enjoy the afternoon.
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  But
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  Ryan: I do agree with that.
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  It's still enjoy a cigar and a glass of wine.
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  It's not that, not that bad.
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  It's snowing a little bit now.
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  Kearns: Be quiet about
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  Ryan: Not in your neck of the woods.
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  Kearns: out.
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  You mean down here in Arizona where I live
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  Ryan: In that heat.
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  Jon: doesn't,
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  Ryan: The dry heat,
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  Kearns: dry.
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  Jon: I mean
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  Ryan: dry
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  Jon: this ice down the bayou is rough on me.
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  Kearns: It's, you know, it's like negative 13 down in northern Louisiana.
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  Oh boy.
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  Ryan: Oh,
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  Kearns: All right.
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  Back to this garbage heap of a film.
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  So you know what you're getting into with this and you don't it, the problem
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  is a remake carries with it expectation.
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  You expect it to be good.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: isn't bad, but it's not good.
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  I don't know how to really
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  Ryan: it
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  Jon: I
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  Kearns: it.
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  Jon: mean,
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  Ryan: it.
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  Jon: I don't, I don't know that I went into it with high expectations because I
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  didn't like the strangers to begin with.
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  Like, this is a series that has sort of always fallen flat on me.
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  I think Pray at Night is the best of them that I've watched so far, and
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  that's, you know, not high praise.
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  Ryan: Hey.
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  Kearns: slashers and you guys know that, but like strain
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  Ryan: Yeah,
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  Kearns: out of the slasher genre and then at the tail end of the revival
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  of it in the late nineties and then
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: to me too.
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  I can't believe that Liv Tyler got signed for it, for starters,
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  and it's just, I don't know, I, it never really hit for me either.
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  Ryan: I think it was just because the time, I mean I was in, this movie came
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  out, I was in high school senior year.
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  So like we were talking about it as like it's something new.
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  And the thing is you had the pacing.
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  The pacing, I think it's like an 80 to 85 minute film.
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  It's like starts off with the bang, like it's all uncomfortable in the beginning.
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  And that uncomfortability like builds up as this couple's like reconciling
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  during like this tirade with all these, mass killers and tirade,
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  Kearns: you keep saying uncomfortability and I think the word
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  you're looking for is discomfort.
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  Ryan: uh, discomfort.
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  Another word in the lexicon, this uncomfortability that they feel,
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  they feel this uncomfortability.
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  But, um, it was different though for 2008, especially when you've
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  seen like the same old thing Michael Meyers, Jason, this was different.
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  It was in the woods.
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  It was like, you know, and most of the time when we were out partying,
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  we're partying in the woods.
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  Something similar to that.
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  You go to that cabin and it's got that.
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  I think it like related to us in that vibe of like, this is where we kind of party.
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  If we're gonna look in the woods, where we might see these guys.
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  Jon: Yeah, I can see that to, I mean, to me it just always fell flat.
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  Like there's no motivations.
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  There's just these like really expressionless killers and you
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  know, some characters that I didn't care all that much about.
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  And it's sort of repeated in this one.
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  The only thing I sort of have hope for with, you know, chapter two and chapter
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  three of this new trilogy, is that they get into some motivation and you know,
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  may I know they're gonna reveal who's under at least one of the masks because I
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  was looking at the cast for chapter two.
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  Kearns: I forgot their names.
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Kearns: let's
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  Ryan: It's pin up girl,
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  Kearns: girl.
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  Ryan: doll face.
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  Yep.
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  Yep.
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  Jon: Gary Crow and doll face.
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  Yeah,
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  Ryan: I'm
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  Jon: I believe, I believe it was pinup that I saw
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  Ryan: Ooh, so.
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  Jon: the credit for,
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  Ryan: I am curious.
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  Jon: I mean, I can spoil it if you want.
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  Kearns: the listeners want you to, but then again, it is a garbage heap
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  Ryan: Amy,
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  Jon: I mean, it,
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  Kearns: property.
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  Jon: spoil If you, just look at the IMDB page, like I don't think they're really
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  trying to keep it hidden going forward.
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  I mean, 'cause it's the waitress.
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  One of them is the waitress.
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  Ryan: come on, John.
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  Now I'm not watching chapter two now.
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  No, I'm, I mean,
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  Jon: I mean, but.
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  Kearns: two is 'cause you two are gonna make me
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  Ryan: actually I, I'd be
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  Jon: I don't, I mean, I don't know if I'm gonna make you, we, we will see, I mean,
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  I, you know, at some point I imagine we closed the loop on this trilogy, but it's
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  not gonna be anytime soon, I don't think.
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  Ryan: nah, this isn't
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  Jon: I mean,
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  Ryan: levels or critters level, which is coming this year.
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  Jon: I just don't think it's necessarily worthy of, multiple
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  episodes at this point.
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  maybe two and three get better, but I, think for me, once I saw who directed
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  this, it was sort of, all right.
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  I know what I'm about to get into.
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  Ryan: Renee Hartland.
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  Jon: This is, yeah, this is Renny Harlan at Renny Harlan's Most Renny Harlan.
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  Kearns: So can we tell the listeners who may not know about Remy, Harlan what
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  other pictures this person has made?
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  Jon: Well, this is probably a good time to roll into our game.
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  Kearns: buddy.
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  Jon: Slasher Stash because it is Renny Harlan movies.
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  Ryan: Uh, is gonna be interesting 'cause currents, just to give you a
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  little info on Harlan, he's directed blah, he's directed diehard too.
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  He's directed cliffhanger Deep.
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  Oh,
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  Kearns: John to
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  Ryan: oh,
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Yep.
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  So Guys
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  Ryan: I had some trivia.
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  Jon: slash Slasher Stash.
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  These Renny Harlan movies.
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  Kearns: John
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  Jon: And number one
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  Kearns: an,
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  Jon: is the John Cena Classic.
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  12 rounds?
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  Ryan: Are we still keeping three?
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  Cutting.
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  Five.
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  Jon: No, we're, gonna go to four and four because there's no way I can make, keep
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  three of these piles worthy for you guys.
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  Ryan: Well, I'm just gonna slash this out of the bat.
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  I've seen 12 rounds.
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  There's,
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  Kearns: I gotta slash it as well.
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  Ryan: it's not like blockers.
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  Ricky Snicky, like, it's not like his, newer films where he can actually act or
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  Jon: Any though,
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  Ryan: be funny.
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  He's funny.
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  he's got a
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  Jon: I mean, he, he's got, yeah, he's got some form of comedy presence.
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  I mean, he's not the rock.
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  Ryan: No, no.
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  Kearns: Nobody's the rock.
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  Jon: So we're both, you're, we're both slashing 12 rounds is where
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  we're, we're getting to here.
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  Ryan: Yeah,
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  Kearns: the
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  Jon: right.
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  Kearns: is not even the rock.
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  Oh.
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  Keeping this bad boy.
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  My hat is like a shock.
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  Fin.
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  Deep blue.
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  See LL Cool
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  Ryan: definitely keep, definitely stashing it.
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  Kearns: I'm stashing this sucker
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: parrot.
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  Best part of the movie.
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  That damn bird I.
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  Jon: Is it the Parrot or is it Samuel l Jackson's motivational speech.
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  Kearns: That part was good
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  Jon: I love that part.
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  Kearns: saw it coming.
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  And then there was this big controversy that he had an issue with it.
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  he wouldn't have taken the movie.
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  He read the script.
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  He wouldn't have taken the movie if he had an
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:29
  Kearns: it.
• 16:29
  You silly gooses.
• 16:32
  Ryan: It's
• 16:32
  Jon: Yeah.
• 16:32
  Kearns: the same actress that was in Gladiator as well.
• 16:36
  Ryan: Yep.
• 16:37
  Kearns: what her name is.
• 16:40
  Yeah,
• 16:41
  Jon: I'm blanking on it too.
• 16:42
  Kearns: Uh, unfortunately she was in like four big movies, this being one of them.
• 16:47
  And I never remember the name of the, guy in it too.
• 16:51
  Um, is he the same dude in the Mist, the like athletic Scuba Steve guy?
• 16:59
  Jon: Uh, maybe I'm gonna look it up because now I'm curious.
• 17:03
  Kearns: scuba Steve he knows Sharks.
• 17:06
  Jon: Thomas Jane.
• 17:07
  Kearns: he was the Punisher.
• 17:09
  Jon: Thomas Jane.
• 17:11
  Ryan: Yes.
• 17:12
  Jon: Yep.
• 17:12
  Ryan: the Punisher.
• 17:13
  Good movie.
• 17:14
  Kearns: had a
• 17:14
  Jon: Boogie Nights.
• 17:16
  The mist, he, he's had a nice career.
• 17:19
  Kearns: about
• 17:20
  Ryan: Yep.
• 17:20
  Kearns: teens.
• 17:21
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 17:22
  Kearns: Is is
• 17:22
  Ryan: was a mentioned.
• 17:25
  Mentioned Hung to a friend recently.
• 17:27
  No, it's so really funny, actually.
• 17:31
  Kearns: I bet it is.
• 17:32
  Ryan: Really funny.
• 17:33
  It it, he got what's he.
• 17:36
  Kearns: when it came out.
• 17:37
  That's why.
• 17:39
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:40
  And she is, Saffron Burrows
• 17:43
  Kearns: her name.
• 17:44
  You're a spice ma'am.
• 17:48
  That's not a name.
• 17:49
  Jon: spicy.
• 17:50
  Kearns: well actually I can't say that.
• 17:51
  One of my friend's daughter's middle name is stage
• 17:53
  Jon: And just to prove that we're never too far away.
• 17:58
  Still.
• 17:58
  Scars guards.
• 17:59
  The Scars guard is in Deep Lucy
• 18:01
  Kearns: he
• 18:02
  Jon: and
• 18:02
  Kearns: his arms guard.
• 18:04
  Ryan: He's,
• 18:05
  Jon: yeah.
• 18:06
  Kearns: That
• 18:06
  Ryan: guard.
• 18:07
  Kearns: bite face right there.
• 18:08
  Takes his arm.
• 18:09
  Yeah.
• 18:09
  This movie was good.
• 18:10
  I gotta stash this sucker.
• 18:11
  I enjoyed this.
• 18:13
  It
• 18:13
  Jon: Yeah.
• 18:13
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 18:14
  Jon: All right.
• 18:14
  Kearns: it.
• 18:14
  The hurricanes coming in like a La Jurassic Park.
• 18:19
  Ryan: But that's what makes it, it's like that era of us growing up.
• 18:22
  We had all these big summer blockbusters that we didn't take for granted,
• 18:26
  but as we look back, we're like, man, remember how big this was?
• 18:30
  This was.
• 18:31
  Kearns: I just assumed things would be that way forever.
• 18:33
  You'd get your Independence Day
• 18:34
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 18:35
  Kearns: movie every summer and life was gonna be great forever.
• 18:39
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 18:40
  Ryan: All right.
• 18:40
  Touche
• 18:41
  Jon: I,
• 18:41
  Kearns: with that woman and everything was gonna be fine.
• 18:45
  Ryan: playing his saxophone.
• 18:49
  Jon: yep.
• 18:50
  Kearns: And here we are.
• 18:52
  What's.
• 18:53
  Jon: Milk his cigars.
• 18:54
  Uh, next
• 18:58
  blast from the past.
• 19:00
  Ryan: That's a good film too.
• 19:01
  Kearns: I actually really like this movie.
• 19:04
  It's like if you put the cutting edge up here, remember the ice skating movie?
• 19:07
  I'd be like, ah,
• 19:09
  Jon: Uh,
• 19:09
  Kearns: you guys about.
• 19:10
  Probably seen that movie a lot.
• 19:12
  Ryan: But you might put Die Hard.
• 19:14
  You might put Cliffhanger.
• 19:15
  Kearns: coming, they're both coming.
• 19:18
  100%.
• 19:19
  Ryan: chance.
• 19:20
  I'll, I'll Blast from the past.
• 19:22
  I'll, I'm slashing it, trying to get the new terminology down.
• 19:29
  Kearns: It's no Encino,
• 19:30
  Jon: what say you.
• 19:32
  Kearns: I wanna be a trailblazer, but I got burned on the last one.
• 19:39
  I mean, I'm trying to think of the other movie, another movie
• 19:43
  that I would want to keep see.
• 19:44
  Brian knows a few more of the titles than I do probably too.
• 19:48
  I wanna cut it as well.
• 19:50
  'cause it is, I mean, it should have been a Fallout movie, you know,
• 19:55
  Ryan: Yep.
• 19:55
  Kearns: though it came out way before that was a thing.
• 19:59
  So for the
• 19:59
  Ryan: Uh, no.
• 20:00
  Kearns: not seen Blas from the past, he's in a fallout shelter.
• 20:03
  'cause he thought there was a nuclear Armageddon.
• 20:05
  He comes out years later and he buffs Alicia Silverstone.
• 20:10
  It's a good movie.
• 20:11
  Jon: Yep.
• 20:12
  Ryan: It
• 20:12
  Jon: Yep.
• 20:13
  Ryan: he tries to sell the baseball cards.
• 20:15
  You're ripping them off.
• 20:16
  Kearns: yeah, I forgot about that.
• 20:17
  Ryan: I have an original Mickey Mantle.
• 20:20
  Okay.
• 20:20
  It's like I'll give you $25 for it.
• 20:26
  Jon: Man, you guys remember this way better than me.
• 20:28
  Kearns: dunno why.
• 20:29
  Either I didn't like watch it on cable or anything and watch
• 20:33
  Ryan: It,
• 20:33
  Kearns: TBS version of it.
• 20:34
  Ryan: yep.
• 20:35
  TBS eight o'clock in the morning on Sunday then it's back to the future.
• 20:39
  Part two.
• 20:40
  Always part two.
• 20:41
  Never part one.
• 20:42
  Kearns: part one, sometimes
• 20:43
  Jon: yeah.
• 20:44
  All right.
• 20:44
  Kearns: Okay.
• 20:46
  Jon: Movie four.
• 20:49
  Kearns: Ooh.
• 20:49
  Ryan: Uh, I, cutthroat Island is like a guilty pleasure when I was a kid
• 20:56
  along with the Chechen Chong movie.
• 20:58
  The Korsian Brothers.
• 21:00
  Jon: Corkin Brothers.
• 21:01
  I love the Corkin Brothers.
• 21:03
  Ryan: I'm saying.
• 21:03
  It's like I'll keep it, I'll keep Cutthroat Island
• 21:06
  for nos, nostalgic reasons.
• 21:08
  Kearns: the,
• 21:08
  Ryan: Stacia,
• 21:09
  Kearns: gonna slash this too slash away
• 21:14
  Ryan: I think
• 21:15
  Jon: Interesting.
• 21:15
  Ryan: this movie came out the same time, or, um, mistaken of the Goonies, right.
• 21:19
  Or a couple years after.
• 21:21
  Jon: No, this Goonies was eighties.
• 21:23
  This was like mid nineties.
• 21:25
  Ryan: 90.
• 21:25
  Oh, I thought it was
• 21:26
  Jon: Like this was in like the 90, 92 to 95 range.
• 21:31
  I think.
• 21:32
  Ryan: Wow.
• 21:32
  I thought it was earlier.
• 21:34
  Okay.
• 21:35
  Still a decent movie for what it is.
• 21:39
  it is For
• 21:40
  Jon: Eh, it's not even the best Gina Davis movie in this game
• 21:46
  Kearns: She was in Deep Blue Sea.
• 21:47
  Jon: because there it is.
• 21:49
  Kearns: Oh man.
• 21:49
  Ryan: the long
• 21:50
  Jon: There's the best Gina Davis movie on this list.
• 21:53
  Ryan: Uh,
• 21:54
  Kearns: Face Davis right there.
• 21:57
  Ryan: that's a
• 21:57
  Jon: Yep.
• 21:58
  Kearns: I don't know if
• 21:58
  Ryan: Dammit.
• 21:59
  Jon: I,
• 22:00
  Kearns: Sam Jackson's hairline
• 22:01
  Jon: I just watched this a couple weeks ago.
• 22:04
  I just watched this a couple weeks ago.
• 22:06
  It, it ages pretty well.
• 22:07
  Kearns: homage to like when action movies had a plot that was like engaging
• 22:11
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 22:12
  Kearns: I'm gonna blend together, but like along Came a Spider The
• 22:16
  Ryan: Yep.
• 22:17
  Kearns: These are movies that you could really enjoy.
• 22:20
  The Long Kiss Goodnight.
• 22:21
  Not a lot of people know about it compared to the other ones
• 22:23
  I mentioned, but Good movie.
• 22:25
  Jon: Yeah,
• 22:26
  Kearns: it.
• 22:26
  Jon: it did just get a beautiful release from Arrow too, so
• 22:31
  definitely worth picking up too.
• 22:32
  Ryan: know,
• 22:33
  Kearns: to burn, I want to
• 22:34
  Ryan: real quick, arrow's been, just as a side note, arrow's
• 22:37
  been releasing recently.
• 22:39
  They just released actually a Westworld, uh, 4K Box set.
• 22:43
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 22:44
  Ryan: think this coming week they're doing it.
• 22:46
  Kearns: one, I'll take that.
• 22:49
  Ryan: Oh, it's the movie.
• 22:49
  Kearns: Oh, nice.
• 22:50
  Jon: The movie, the, yeah.
• 22:52
  Ryan: you seen the movie.
• 22:53
  Kearns: Yes,
• 22:55
  Ryan: Ah, it's so good.
• 22:57
  Yes.
• 22:58
  You'll Yo Brenner.
• 23:00
  It's just so good.
• 23:02
  Jon: At,
• 23:02
  Ryan: Well,
• 23:03
  Jon: at some point.
• 23:04
  Yep.
• 23:06
  All right.
• 23:07
  Slasher stash.
• 23:08
  Long kiss Goodnight.
• 23:09
  Kearns: I'm stashing it
• 23:13
  now.
• 23:13
  You,
• 23:13
  Ryan: yeah.
• 23:14
  I'll, I'll stash it.
• 23:15
  Kearns: You kept the Turd
• 23:16
  Ryan: I'll stash it.
• 23:17
  Kearns: losing cliffhanger for, for the Pirate movie.
• 23:20
  You're
• 23:20
  Ryan: See, but hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, on.
• 23:24
  If he's
• 23:25
  Jon: There.
• 23:26
  There is some,
• 23:27
  Ryan: two,
• 23:27
  Jon: is some ruining coming.
• 23:28
  Ryan: diehard two.
• 23:29
  I hold more close to my heart than cliffhanger.
• 23:31
  Kearns: Of
• 23:32
  Ryan: that
• 23:33
  Kearns: diehard two is
• 23:34
  Jon: There.
• 23:34
  There
• 23:35
  Kearns: as diehard.
• 23:37
  Jon: there is some ruining coming
• 23:39
  Kearns: ruining, he might have a
• 23:40
  Jon: for.
• 23:41
  For both of you.
• 23:42
  Oh, there are trap everywhere.
• 23:45
  All right.
• 23:45
  Next.
• 23:46
  Kearns: Diabolical key.
• 23:48
  I'm, I'm stashing it.
• 23:49
  look at that
• 23:50
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Slash slash this they say, uh, was in the behind the scenes that he
• 23:57
  actually like like a higher elevation compared to the Tom Cruise mission.
• 24:03
  Possible two seat.
• 24:04
  Kearns: yeah, there was, I,
• 24:06
  Ryan: Like,
• 24:06
  Kearns: if you sent a video or if we just both watched the same thing,
• 24:09
  but I watched a sizable amount of, stuff on cliffhanger trivia and behind
• 24:14
  the scenes like stuff recently, and realize it was as involved as it was.
• 24:20
  They, they went hardcore on cliffhanger.
• 24:24
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 24:25
  Ryan: okay.
• 24:25
  Jon: Yeah.
• 24:26
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 24:26
  No, they,
• 24:27
  Jon: Wait,
• 24:27
  Kearns: The loan's not skipping light day,
• 24:29
  Jon: Ryan, did you say.
• 24:31
  Ryan: say slash um, you know, I only saw the video with explaining how he
• 24:36
  actually held onto like a high elevation, and I was like, Jesus Stallone, like
• 24:42
  you almost killed yourself here for it.
• 24:43
  But again, what year did this film come out?
• 24:45
  Like early nineties, right?
• 24:48
  Jon: Early nineties.
• 24:49
  Yeah,
• 24:49
  Kearns: don't know if it was late middle,
• 24:51
  Jon: I think it was earlier than that.
• 24:53
  I think it was fairly, I think I was still living at home when this came out.
• 24:57
  Kearns: this.
• 24:57
  Let's find out.
• 24:58
  Jon: So it would be early nineties.
• 25:00
  Kearns: there.
• 25:00
  It's,
• 25:00
  Jon: Yeah.
• 25:01
  Kearns: I enjoyed this movie very much.
• 25:04
  I enjoyed it.
• 25:05
  And then, the nature calls, scene where he drops the raccoon, the
• 25:10
  Ace Ventura scene, and the se
• 25:11
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 25:12
  Kearns: making fun of it.
• 25:14
  dumb, but I loved it.
• 25:15
  I'm gonna stash it.
• 25:16
  Jon: Yeah.
• 25:18
  Excellent.
• 25:19
  Kearns: Excellent,
• 25:20
  Jon: Movie number seven.
• 25:24
  There it is.
• 25:25
  Ryan: Stash.
• 25:26
  Kearns: I don't even know if I have two left or one or none or
• 25:28
  whatever, but I have to stash it.
• 25:31
  Ryan: I'll be slashing
• 25:32
  Jon: you.
• 25:32
  Ryan: film.
• 25:34
  Jon: I think you both actually worked out well with this one, because
• 25:37
  there is no way either one of you're gonna wanna stash the last movie
• 25:42
  Kearns: Well,
• 25:42
  Ryan: What's,
• 25:43
  Jon: because the last movie is Oh, yeah.
• 25:49
  Ryan: oh, I would, hold on, hold on.
• 25:50
  Wait a minute.
• 25:51
  Wait a minute.
• 25:51
  Hold on.
• 25:52
  I would, I would've, I would've stashed that because Robert Englin in it is a gem.
• 25:59
  He placed
• 25:59
  Jon: Okay.
• 25:59
  Ryan: the, the assassin.
• 26:02
  Jon: Okay.
• 26:02
  Mr. Hindsight, what would you slash to ke to
• 26:08
  Kearns: Pirate
• 26:09
  Jon: stash Ford Fairlane
• 26:10
  Ryan: Cutthroat.
• 26:11
  Cutthroat island.
• 26:12
  Kearns: It sounds like a porn.
• 26:13
  Jon: after you, after you just talked so highly of Cutthroat
• 26:17
  Island and, your childhood with it?
• 26:19
  You're gonna get rid of it for Ford Fairlane.
• 26:23
  Ryan: Fairlane Ford Fairlane
• 26:24
  Kearns: for Dice Clay action.
• 26:27
  Ryan: Ford Fairlane is childhood two on VH one
• 26:30
  Kearns: don't
• 26:30
  Ryan: after.
• 26:31
  Jon: Oh,
• 26:31
  Kearns: Dice Clay had on America for a while.
• 26:36
  Ryan: Oh, the nursery rhymes.
• 26:38
  Jon: he had about three or four years that sort of ended with Ford
• 26:42
  Fairlane, where he was, everything.
• 26:46
  Kearns: He had CDs coming out left and right.
• 26:48
  Uh, it's overlaps George Carlin's dominance period.
• 26:52
  obviously he
• 26:53
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 26:54
  Kearns: at the time, but he was definitely the best shtick.
• 26:57
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 26:58
  Jon: It, it outshined carlin it out.
• 27:00
  He outshined everybody.
• 27:02
  He was selling out arenas.
• 27:04
  Kearns: 'cause everybody wanted to go see
• 27:05
  Jon: He, I think,
• 27:07
  Ryan: Yep.
• 27:07
  Jon: yeah, I think he sold out MSG telling Dirty Nursery rhymes like that.
• 27:13
  And that was like really the only, truly funny part of his, routine.
• 27:17
  The rest of it was just sort of like everybody else with, the thick accent.
• 27:22
  Like that was what set him apart.
• 27:24
  Ryan: he does do a good Michael Matson impression, which came up recently
• 27:28
  Kearns: him
• 27:29
  Ryan: decent.
• 27:30
  Kearns: over the last five or six years and stuff, like, a lot
• 27:33
  of people think he's like that.
• 27:35
  His stage persona,
• 27:36
  Jon: Yeah.
• 27:37
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 27:37
  Jon: Yeah.
• 27:38
  No.
• 27:39
  Kearns: a bit, it's a
• 27:40
  Jon: Yeah.
• 27:40
  Yeah.
• 27:41
  It's, fun watching him now, seeing the, bit gone and just listening to,
• 27:47
  he's a, been a fairly interesting guy to listen to, surprisingly.
• 27:52
  Ryan: he's got some funny skits with John Lovett's up there.
• 27:54
  He does a lot of skits with John
• 27:55
  Kearns: Lovetts would, um, it would seem like they would get after it for real.
• 28:00
  Ryan: Yep.
• 28:02
  Kearns: I don't know how
• 28:03
  Ryan: I'm just thinking.
• 28:03
  Kearns: like, you know, how we bicker and banter and, and have play and stuff.
• 28:06
  I don't know how true the Lovet dice clay thing was though, because that felt real.
• 28:11
  Ryan: I can see LUTs pushing it into it and then being like, I'm just a birdie.
• 28:15
  I'm just in your tree.
• 28:16
  Sorry, I'm thinking of little Nicki right now.
• 28:18
  Jon: I know John Levit is not particularly well liked,
• 28:22
  Kearns: he
• 28:22
  Jon: so
• 28:23
  Kearns: there's
• 28:23
  Ryan: no.
• 28:23
  Kearns: story about him getting yelled at by Chris Farley, or I
• 28:27
  guess he was giving crap to Farley, showed up to his party lady and he is
• 28:30
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 28:31
  Kearns: food for everybody else.
• 28:32
  And he put, his cat on a sandwich or something, like he
• 28:35
  made a sandwich out of his cat
• 28:36
  Ryan: Yep.
• 28:37
  Kearns: and was dad.
• 28:38
  Lovet was furious.
• 28:40
  Ryan: They got a picture of that somewhere.
• 28:42
  A black and white picture of him putting the cat between the sandwich.
• 28:45
  Ah, Chris Farley was a gem.
• 28:47
  Another gem gone too soon.
• 28:49
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 28:50
  But before we move, move on and not going to Debbie Downer territory.
• 28:54
  I. Their best TV edit of all time.
• 28:58
  We should do one of those as like a top five best TV audio edit of all time.
• 29:02
  'cause the Die Hard two one he lights the fire, the for the fuel the end,
• 29:09
  yippy ca, Mr. Barack does he call him at the end instead of mother er?
• 29:14
  He goes,
• 29:16
  Jon: I don't know.
• 29:17
  I never saw the TV version.
• 29:19
  Ryan: the TV yet either.
• 29:20
  Kearns: The, the Big Lebowski might be the best of all time.
• 29:24
  best of
• 29:24
  Ryan: leow funny.
• 29:25
  Kearns: Hard.
• 29:26
  Um, all the Van Damm movies, the Terminator movies,
• 29:29
  there's a bunch of super
• 29:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 29:31
  Kearns: sure somebody put 'em all together out there.
• 29:33
  Jon: Yeah, the Warriors has a great TV edit because it's got
• 29:36
  stuff that wasn't in the movie.
• 29:38
  Like they put,
• 29:39
  Ryan: Yep, yep,
• 29:39
  Jon: they put some of the deleted scenes back in because once they cut
• 29:43
  the stuff they couldn't show on tv.
• 29:44
  They didn't have a long enough movie.
• 29:47
  Kearns: makes sense.
• 29:48
  Ryan: yep.
• 29:49
  Kearns: actually kind of neat.
• 29:50
  Jon: There's a few of those.
• 29:51
  Yeah.
• 29:52
  Kearns: mean, we should
• 29:52
  Ryan: But.
• 29:53
  Kearns: this for another 15 minutes.
• 29:54
  'cause as with all of our movies that are like, we're, we're gonna
• 29:58
  run outta stuff to talk about for the film about five more minutes.
• 30:03
  Jon: I mean, we can talk about the Warriors all day.
• 30:05
  I love that movie.
• 30:07
  Everything about that movie.
• 30:09
  Ryan: Warriors would be
• 30:10
  Jon: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Ryan: watching the original theatrical cut or are we watching the new edition?
• 30:15
  Like he designed it like a comic book.
• 30:19
  Jon: I prefer the original cut.
• 30:21
  I don't like the cartoon cut.
• 30:23
  Ryan: Nah,
• 30:23
  Kearns: Cartoon
• 30:24
  Ryan: nah.
• 30:24
  Jon: Yeah.
• 30:24
  Kearns: are
• 30:25
  Jon: Because I
• 30:26
  Kearns: across the board every time somebody tries to pull that off.
• 30:28
  They did that with the Hulk movie,
• 30:30
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 30:30
  Kearns: Bana Hulk
• 30:31
  Ryan: Yep.
• 30:32
  Kearns: It just falls flat
• 30:33
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 30:33
  Kearns: woowoo
• 30:34
  Jon: Yeah, It doesn't bring anything to the Warriors.
• 30:38
  Like, I get it.
• 30:38
  All right.
• 30:39
  Here's this image of, from a comic book of the Warriors, and then
• 30:43
  you go right back to the movie, so it's like it doesn't do anything.
• 30:46
  Ryan: thought it was cool to give it like a
• 30:48
  little modern, fix up.
• 30:49
  And it's from the director.
• 30:50
  It wasn't the studio who decided, the
• 30:53
  Jon: Yeah.
• 30:53
  Yeah.
• 30:54
  Ryan: why I think it's cool.
• 30:55
  Uh, but nah, I mean, you, we could watch the original.
• 30:58
  Kearns: We
• 30:58
  Ryan: I just got the bottles ready.
• 30:59
  Kearns: we should watch
• 31:00
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 31:01
  Ryan: ears.
• 31:02
  Kearns: here.
• 31:03
  Jon: One of, one of the guys on the Patriots showed up yesterday
• 31:06
  with the bottles on his hand doing that, walking into the locker room.
• 31:09
  Ryan: great.
• 31:10
  Jon: was pretty cool.
• 31:11
  Yeah,
• 31:12
  Ryan: The warriors exist.
• 31:13
  it's a timeless movie.
• 31:15
  I mean, if you really get into it with gaming culture and retro gaming
• 31:19
  coming back there is a PlayStation two game on the Warriors, which
• 31:23
  Jon: there is,
• 31:24
  Ryan: Excellent game, pre cool.
• 31:26
  Jon: it's a rockstar game too, so you know exactly what you're getting from it.
• 31:30
  Ryan: yes, you are fighting looting.
• 31:34
  Kearns: Rockstar
• 31:34
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 31:35
  Kearns: out for micro transactions, did they?
• 31:39
  Ryan: Yes.
• 31:40
  For GTA five, technically they did you get the credit card and you can do, you
• 31:45
  know, buy cars, buy buildings, it'ss.
• 31:48
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 31:49
  Ryan: It's a scam.
• 31:51
  Kearns: a scam.
• 31:51
  Ryan: Art.
• 31:52
  Jon: is a.
• 31:54
  Kearns: I don't
• 31:55
  Ryan: It's not that they don't,
• 31:55
  Kearns: transactions.
• 31:57
  Ryan: they don't have that in arc Raiders.
• 31:58
  Right.
• 31:58
  Kearns: not like necessary ones.
• 32:00
  You could choose to buy extra outfits and stuff, but there's
• 32:03
  nothing that helps you with gameplay.
• 32:04
  Like you can't buy gear.
• 32:06
  That's good and stuff.
• 32:09
  Ryan: that's different though.
• 32:10
  I mean, when you're buying gear and like customization, but when
• 32:13
  you have to buy weapons and stuff, that's where you gotta draw the line.
• 32:17
  Kearns: Yeah, I agree.
• 32:19
  Jon: Yeah, I'm fine with bonus things being paid for in games,
• 32:22
  but like, don't let me earn stuff.
• 32:26
  I want to earn it.
• 32:26
  I don't wanna buy it.
• 32:27
  I don't even want like the pre-sale bonus stuff, like, let me earn
• 32:31
  it the way the game was meant to be earned and enjoy it that way.
• 32:36
  Ryan: I agree with that.
• 32:38
  Kearns: Fair enough.
• 32:39
  I like it.
• 32:42
  Ryan: Which kinda gets me thinking, is there any good reviews on this movie?
• 32:45
  John, did you find any good reviews on this?
• 32:49
  Please tell me
• 32:49
  Jon: I mean, listen, we're.
• 32:51
  talking, a movie that's, in the twenties on Rotten Tomatoes, so there's not a lot,
• 32:55
  but of course I found you a five star.
• 32:59
  Kearns: guy's gonna be unhinged.
• 33:00
  I want the B to.
• 33:04
  Jon: I mean, this is about the tamest of five star reviews you could get.
• 33:08
  I think this feels like it's a five star to balance out low ratings
• 33:12
  kind of review, but here we go.
• 33:14
  Five stars.
• 33:16
  I don't understand why this movie has 21% rotten tomatoes.
• 33:21
  'cause this movie is great.
• 33:26
  Kearns: Okay.
• 33:27
  Jon: That's it.
• 33:27
  Ryan: that was it.
• 33:28
  Jon: That's it.
• 33:29
  Ryan: You know what
• 33:29
  Jon: review.
• 33:30
  Ryan: this kind of gives into my idea, like if you saw the one in
• 33:34
  2008 and see this one, you're like, crap, this is just the same movie.
• 33:37
  I don't care.
• 33:38
  But if you see this one first and then watch the 2008, it might be a
• 33:43
  different reaction being like, okay, that's how like the franchise is.
• 33:46
  It's the reboot.
• 33:48
  It could be in this situation.
• 33:49
  They never seen the original, saw the new one.
• 33:54
  Jon: I mean, maybe.
• 33:55
  Maybe.
• 33:56
  I think, I mean, I, like I said, this feels like a five star that's just
• 34:00
  trying to balance out the low reviews,
• 34:04
  Ryan: It was
• 34:04
  Jon: and most of the five stars sort of felt that way.
• 34:07
  Like, all right, listen, I didn't hate this movie.
• 34:09
  It doesn't deserve to be 21% on here.
• 34:13
  Let's give it a good review.
• 34:14
  I mean, if you like chapter one, you like chapter one, that's fine.
• 34:19
  This person did not one star.
• 34:22
  I have never been so frustrated watching a horror movie.
• 34:27
  The characters in this movie are unbelievably stupid.
• 34:31
  I can't even understand the thought process behind most of these scenes.
• 34:37
  Kearns: Okay.
• 34:38
  Jon: Which I mean it, that's a little over the top, right?
• 34:42
  Like, I mean, I, I don't, I don't think, you have to think really hard about
• 34:47
  most of what happens in this movie.
• 34:49
  You're there,
• 34:50
  Kearns: I don't know.
• 34:51
  They,
• 34:51
  Jon: ma masked dudes show up at the house you run.
• 34:55
  Kearns: like I said too, the first movie is more suspenseful, more home
• 34:59
  invasion, more like to creep out.
• 35:02
  It digs into the what creeps you out on a Saturday night at nine 30.
• 35:06
  You heard a bump.
• 35:07
  going after
• 35:08
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 35:09
  Kearns: the remake is more kung fu fighting.
• 35:14
  Ryan: Well,
• 35:14
  Kearns: I think
• 35:14
  Ryan: yeah,
• 35:15
  Kearns: I
• 35:15
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 35:16
  Ryan: no, no, you're right.
• 35:17
  Kearns: more scream, sprint sort of thing.
• 35:19
  And
• 35:20
  Jon: Yeah.
• 35:21
  Kearns: why people like it.
• 35:22
  It's in your, all right, so if you don't like that, if you don't
• 35:24
  like, they made that change.
• 35:25
  Okay.
• 35:26
  But then also if you're watching this movie, what else are you expecting?
• 35:31
  Ryan: so reading other reviews about this film is a lot of people notice that these
• 35:34
  main characters do not have common sense.
• 35:38
  And that was one of my like frustrations.
• 35:40
  'cause in the original, at least, there's common sense between
• 35:43
  the main characters in this one.
• 35:44
  You had certain situations where like, Ryan's got the
• 35:47
  gun pointed at the pinup girl.
• 35:50
  And if you're even writing it, I mean, if you're trying to build it up, then don't
• 35:53
  have him have the gun at the pinup girl.
• 35:56
  Maybe have him at doll face and shoot her.
• 36:00
  having the gun pointed at one of the characters for like five
• 36:03
  minutes and then get attacked.
• 36:04
  It's just like, what are you doing, dude?
• 36:06
  Where's your,
• 36:07
  Jon: Oh,
• 36:07
  Ryan: where's this?
• 36:09
  Jon: I can make that make sense because he's not a killer.
• 36:13
  it's different when someone's actively coming at you than you have this
• 36:18
  person at gunpoint, and now you have to make a decision to actually do that.
• 36:24
  Kearns: Guess,
• 36:25
  Ryan: self-defense though.
• 36:27
  Just a
• 36:27
  Kearns: And it could
• 36:28
  Ryan: devil's
• 36:29
  Jon: I mean, it is, it is, but it,
• 36:32
  Kearns: 'cause that is engagement.
• 36:34
  Jon: Yeah.
• 36:35
  it's a different experience though, like the, if she's coming, she's dropped
• 36:40
  the knife, you've got her disarmed now
• 36:43
  Ryan: Okay.
• 36:43
  Fair.
• 36:44
  Jon: I think his mistake in that moment is just not
• 36:48
  Kearns: now, right
• 36:48
  Jon: doing it,
• 36:49
  Kearns: up your
• 36:49
  Jon: you know?
• 36:50
  Kearns: You gotta take care of business.
• 36:51
  You understand?
• 36:52
  You gotta pull
• 36:52
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 36:53
  Kearns: Arkansas vibe when you get into that situation right there.
• 36:59
  Jon: Now.
• 37:00
  Ryan: Agreed.
• 37:00
  Jon: All that said, I found somebody who hated this movie probably more than us.
• 37:05
  Kearns: I don't
• 37:06
  Ryan: Ooh, I'll accept a half star.
• 37:08
  Kearns: it for what it is.
• 37:10
  like that
• 37:10
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 37:10
  Kearns: you really can't stand, but you're like, you made your peace with it.
• 37:15
  Yeah.
• 37:16
  Jon: Half Star.
• 37:19
  The story lacked any originality.
• 37:22
  The characters were so unlikeable, especially the guy, the pair of them
• 37:28
  making stupid decisions constantly.
• 37:31
  A movie using the same old horror tropes, run through the woods, trip over
• 37:37
  a twig, et cetera, jump scares that, failed to serve their intended purpose.
• 37:42
  Just a waste of 90 minutes really.
• 37:46
  Ryan: Hm.
• 37:47
  Okay.
• 37:47
  Well, I, yeah, I was gonna say it wasn't 90 minutes too, too long for
• 37:52
  you, like how the last movie was for me.
• 37:55
  Um, I, you know.
• 37:57
  Kearns: I mean, I, I'm having a difficult time defending this movie as well.
• 38:00
  If you like the purge, if you like, um, if you like movies like us and
• 38:05
  things like that, this will appeal to
• 38:07
  Jon: Mm.
• 38:07
  Kearns: that vibe to it.
• 38:08
  If you
• 38:08
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 38:09
  Kearns: love those kinds of movies and you're going into this thinking, you're
• 38:12
  getting some deep meaning or something like that, you're going the wrong way.
• 38:16
  This is a, ride.
• 38:17
  You paid for the ticket.
• 38:18
  You go around the loop and then you get off
• 38:20
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 38:22
  Yeah.
• 38:23
  Yeah.
• 38:23
  I mean, you know the notes that this is gonna hit, pretty much remake
• 38:27
  or not you, like right from the opening, you know what this is gonna
• 38:31
  be, you know how this is gonna go.
• 38:33
  And there's been a bunch of movies like this lately and they
• 38:38
  just sort of are what they are.
• 38:40
  Ryan: It's that whole, we're in that whole thing, that whole circle of reboots,
• 38:46
  remakes, you know, trying to like get the attention of an, yeah, I mean, still
• 38:52
  trying to get the attention of audiences.
• 38:54
  'cause now it's like, all right, so we see this, like I was in high school when
• 38:58
  this came out, you know, a few years later you get a sequel and now we're going to a
• 39:03
  new generation trying it all over again.
• 39:05
  To succeed.
• 39:07
  They just, again, we talk about it, give us some originality, give us something
• 39:13
  Kearns: I'm
• 39:13
  Ryan: different,
• 39:14
  Kearns: The
• 39:14
  Ryan: you know?
• 39:15
  Kearns: used to be worrying about box office flop and then you'd get movies
• 39:18
  like, I don't know, dirty dancing.
• 39:20
  And
• 39:21
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 39:22
  Kearns: better examples than that that you guys can throw out that do great on VHS.
• 39:27
  princess Bribe.
• 39:28
  Ryan: Wish master.
• 39:29
  Kearns: Finally a horror movie.
• 39:30
  Um, Candyman too, probably presumably.
• 39:33
  Ryan: I'm trying to.
• 39:33
  Kearns: that sort of issue that they would, do anything
• 39:36
  to avoid a box office flop.
• 39:39
  now you really don't need to have a huge box office to make money with a
• 39:43
  picture, with a picture like an old
• 39:46
  Jon: No.
• 39:47
  Kearns: with a movie.
• 39:49
  So I don't see why they're not taking more risks.
• 39:51
  Netflix alone should be pumping out seven, 10
• 39:55
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 39:55
  Kearns: that are kind of risky.
• 39:57
  Ryan: Yep.
• 39:58
  Jon: with the number of services that need content.
• 40:03
  You would think there would be more risks than there are.
• 40:06
  They just never get the, publicity that other things get.
• 40:10
  You can, go through, Netflix and find a train dreams.
• 40:14
  You can go through
• 40:15
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 40:16
  Jon: Hulu and find whatever they're like.
• 40:18
  They all, it's all there.
• 40:20
  There's just nobody bringing it out.
• 40:23
  Kearns: the thing is, alright, so now we don't have TV commercials
• 40:26
  to rely on 'cause obviously you're watching Netflix or HBO or whatever.
• 40:31
  So I would've loved to have known that Train Dreams existed
• 40:35
  even before it came out.
• 40:36
  I stumbled upon it, looked at the synopsis, saw that the
• 40:39
  imagery looked really cool.
• 40:41
  I was like, ah, I'll watch this.
• 40:42
  And then it ruined my whole night be,
• 40:45
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 40:46
  Kearns: to see more, movie marketing money going out to, social media and you
• 40:51
  Jon: Yeah.
• 40:51
  Kearns: to spend much on it.
• 40:52
  Get 17 influencers to share a few videos.
• 40:56
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 40:57
  Jon: I've said to you guys, I don't know if I've said it on
• 40:59
  the show, but I think Netflix botched the Frankenstein marketing.
• 41:03
  I think that's why it's not like a runaway or even, even really a
• 41:07
  favorite for any of the awards.
• 41:09
  It's just sort of nominated.
• 41:11
  They didn't, do what they should have done with that movie after it was released.
• 41:15
  Ryan: they didn't.
• 41:16
  they'll,
• 41:17
  Jon: They got it out, they got it out, they got the clicks, and
• 41:20
  that's what they were going for.
• 41:22
  Ryan: like,
• 41:22
  Kearns: they moved on to Stranger Things hype, the wor.
• 41:25
  Ryan: yep.
• 41:26
  Kearns: that out after Stranger Things.
• 41:27
  Actually, Del Toro should have known that.
• 41:29
  Seen
• 41:29
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 41:31
  Ryan: I
• 41:32
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 41:32
  Ryan: to get it in contention for award season, which it is of course, but it's
• 41:35
  Jon: Yeah.
• 41:36
  Yeah.
• 41:37
  And then, and that's sort of the problem.
• 41:39
  If you, push it to, like, say now, by the time you get to next Year's Academy
• 41:45
  Awards, it kind of gets forgotten.
• 41:47
  Like there are instances, but it happens a lot.
• 41:50
  That movies released in the first quarter of the year get forgotten in the end.
• 41:56
  So I think they've recognized what Frankenstein would be and
• 42:00
  you couldn't push it a full year because then you start to get the,
• 42:03
  oh boy, this was delayed for a year.
• 42:05
  It's gonna stink.
• 42:07
  Kearns: luckily the strangers 2024 chapter one is not gonna have that problem 'cause
• 42:12
  it was a nominated for Squat Didly.
• 42:15
  But it is nice to see that horror movies are being nominated
• 42:18
  in the big categories again,
• 42:21
  Jon: Absolutely.
• 42:21
  Kearns: Frankenstein sinners.
• 42:23
  Jon: Ab
• 42:25
  Kearns: was there a third one that got a, no.
• 42:28
  Not best picture, but for something.
• 42:31
  Jon: something.
• 42:32
  Um, weapons got, uh, supporting actors numb.
• 42:36
  Um.
• 42:38
  Begonia, I know people are gonna say Begonia is horror adjacent.
• 42:42
  It definitely has some elements that are similar to, you know,
• 42:46
  some things that could happen in a stranger's movie, but, you know,
• 42:50
  it's not, it's, it's got a little of that, but it's not a horror movie.
• 42:54
  Kearns: probably tonight.
• 42:55
  Jon: Good use of your time tonight.
• 42:57
  Kearns: Well,
• 42:58
  Ryan: A Pagon.
• 43:00
  Jon: Yeah.
• 43:01
  Kearns: that off to you, Ryan.
• 43:02
  I believe
• 43:03
  Ryan: Yes.
• 43:03
  I just.
• 43:03
  Kearns: the rotation.
• 43:05
  Ryan: Watching one battle after another yesterday.
• 43:08
  I, I need to see Paonia one battle after another was great, but that
• 43:12
  they did that correctly with the, uh, advertising and everything.
• 43:16
  They released it, they did a, release.
• 43:19
  Right.
• 43:21
  Jon: Well, they, but not only did they do a physical release, they did a rushed
• 43:25
  physical release just so it's out there.
• 43:27
  So people still remember it.
• 43:30
  Like the, release of, one battle after another that came out is Bare Bones.
• 43:35
  It's the movie.
• 43:37
  There's no extras, there's no deleted scene.
• 43:39
  It's, they just got the movie.
• 43:41
  Yeah, they just got the movie out so that you could see what's nominated so people
• 43:47
  can, you can sort of rally people to this cause and then, you know, I get, you want
• 43:54
  something more for a Frankenstein release and it's probably gonna get a, like a
• 43:59
  nice criterion release at some point.
• 44:02
  But you needed to get it out.
• 44:03
  You needed to figure out a way to get more people to see it and
• 44:06
  more people to talk about it.
• 44:08
  Kearns: Well, you know what's interesting is this is the first year
• 44:10
  after the new rule has been introduced as well for the Academy Awards, where
• 44:14
  you have to actually watch all the movies before you're allowed to vote.
• 44:17
  And I do wonder if that'll have an effect on this.
• 44:20
  And you know, they should.
• 44:22
  like disclose what order they watch it in that we can get some good data on that
• 44:25
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 44:26
  Kearns: you watch Frankenstein last, you always voted Frankenstein.
• 44:29
  It'd be kind of neat,
• 44:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 44:31
  Kearns: many people
• 44:31
  Jon: I,
• 44:32
  Kearns: vibe with it after watching it.
• 44:33
  I really do.
• 44:36
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 44:36
  Ryan: of people
• 44:37
  Jon: Well, I mean, you can say that for a lot of the movies that are nominated, like
• 44:42
  One Battle after another, Frankenstein, bagonia, they all have audiences that
• 44:47
  are really gonna love them, but there's gonna be groups of people that do not.
• 44:52
  Kearns: Fair point.
• 44:53
  I can't speak to Paonia, but I know there's a lot of people
• 44:56
  who do not like one battle after another for the wrong reasons.
• 45:01
  Ryan: Oh,
• 45:02
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:02
  Yep.
• 45:02
  Kearns: of a couple that didn't like it for uh, okay.
• 45:04
  Reasons too, but I liked it personally.
• 45:07
  I got what they were trying to do.
• 45:09
  I don't think it's the greatest movie I've ever seen or anything like that.
• 45:12
  Uh, John likes it more than I do.
• 45:14
  I know that much.
• 45:15
  Ryan probably does too, actually.
• 45:17
  Ryan: I, I do, I think it, it was done well.
• 45:20
  Kearns: fine movie.
• 45:21
  I didn't, I thought that maybe it, it had some identity issues.
• 45:25
  it was trying to be two
• 45:26
  Jon: Hmm.
• 45:26
  Kearns: in my opinion, and it should have just chose one another.
• 45:30
  Big
• 45:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 45:31
  Kearns: reference.
• 45:31
  I feel like if they lean more into that with Leo's character in that
• 45:34
  movie, you would've been Okay.
• 45:37
  instead of doing in and out, in and out, in and out, like
• 45:39
  the goofy revolutionary stuff.
• 45:41
  But this isn't an episode on one battle after another.
• 45:44
  So I'll shut up.
• 45:45
  Jon: So this is, where we like to give our own rating.
• 45:51
  What do we got guys?
• 45:53
  Kearns: Two stars.
• 45:56
  Two stars
• 45:58
  outta five.
• 46:01
  I'm always harsher than you guys anyway.
• 46:03
  So two stars outta five for this, for me.
• 46:10
  Ryan: So, I'm gonna be really harsh, and I'm just gonna say, hate half
• 46:16
  stars, but half out of five stars.
• 46:19
  So half a star out of five stars.
• 46:21
  I, I, I, you know what?
• 46:23
  Kearns: I was
• 46:23
  Ryan: just
• 46:24
  Kearns: than you.
• 46:24
  I was giving two because I thought it was like a jerk move to go below that
• 46:28
  Ryan: No, no, I, you know what?
• 46:30
  there's, there's no originality.
• 46:32
  You basically like what made the first one in 2008?
• 46:36
  So good.
• 46:37
  You just kinda rehash the plot for this generation.
• 46:40
  Listen, you wanna reboot something, you wanna remake something.
• 46:43
  And mostly this is a reboot and we're gonna, I'm gonna cover
• 46:46
  that 'cause that's my top five.
• 46:47
  That's, I'm doing top five reboots.
• 46:50
  Cool.
• 46:50
  You kind of give like a little, like you take a little something from the original
• 46:55
  and utilize it to your advantage or change it and you make the audiences or people
• 46:59
  who are coming back be like, wow, this case I wasn't wowed except when Maya got
• 47:05
  her hand like stabbed with like a, a nail.
• 47:08
  I was like, okay, that was a lot of impact if you're stabbing your
• 47:11
  hand with the nail and that's it.
• 47:16
  I mean, I was mostly complaining the entire time and on my phone
• 47:19
  waiting for this winter storm to hit.
• 47:22
  'cause I was like, I've seen this film before.
• 47:24
  Jon: in fairness, this is my second time watching this.
• 47:27
  I watched it in October, so I've now seen this, twice.
• 47:31
  I liked it better the second time, but that's z Liking it better the
• 47:36
  second time, gets it to about a two.
• 47:38
  I could be talked into 2.5, but it's, about a two for me.
• 47:43
  Kearns: liking, um, uncontrollable diarrhea.
• 47:48
  After you have
• 47:49
  Jon: It has its good points.
• 47:50
  Kearns: you're, you know, you, you're used to it.
• 47:53
  You know it's coming.
• 47:54
  You've got your pillow.
• 47:56
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 47:57
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 47:57
  Ryan: part.
• 47:58
  Kearns: So,
• 47:58
  Jon: You, no, you know, you're gonna be pretty emptied out afterwards.
• 48:02
  Like, you know, it's, it's all right.
• 48:04
  Kearns: You don't have
• 48:04
  Jon: It's alright.
• 48:07
  Like, I can, I can recognize how bad this is
• 48:10
  Kearns: bad
• 48:11
  Jon: a movie, but I know Ryan rates this lower because of how much he enjoyed
• 48:17
  the original, and I don't have that.
• 48:18
  So
• 48:19
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 48:20
  I.
• 48:20
  Jon: can, I can comfortably go a little higher.
• 48:22
  Kearns: nice perspective gathering right there, sir.
• 48:26
  Ryan: I, I that I give five stars.
• 48:28
  I'll give that five stars.
• 48:30
  Not this movie.
• 48:32
  Not this movie, but I'll give you five stars.
• 48:35
  Kearns: all right?
• 48:35
  I felt like too, because I also, whenever I do these and I'm being really
• 48:38
  harsh or I really glowy with a movie, I always try to factor in every other
• 48:43
  movie that I've ever seen in this genre.
• 48:46
  The broad horror
• 48:48
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 48:48
  Kearns: does feel like it falls into a two star with that,
• 48:52
  Jon: Yeah.
• 48:52
  Kearns: perspective.
• 48:53
  I get the half star though.
• 48:54
  That's, that's a statement right there.
• 48:57
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 48:58
  Ryan: Damn.
• 48:58
  Straight.
• 48:58
  Kearns: should have put some effort into this.
• 48:59
  You big dweebs.
• 49:02
  You hurt
• 49:02
  Ryan: Come on.
• 49:03
  You did.
• 49:03
  Kearns: You hurt
• 49:04
  Ryan: You did Diehard too.
• 49:05
  You did Cutthroat Island cliffhanger.
• 49:08
  Come on now
• 49:09
  Jon: I mean, it's Renny Harlan being Renny Harlan, I mean, this is, this is
• 49:16
  the movies he makes sometimes, he hits them a little bit better than other times.
• 49:20
  He didn't hit this one real well.
• 49:21
  Kearns: what?
• 49:22
  Yeah, well, they
• 49:22
  Ryan: No.
• 49:23
  Kearns: They, blew on it and he saw it said 2008 he said, here's your script.
• 49:28
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 49:29
  Ryan: He's like, how do
• 49:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 49:30
  Ryan: this?
• 49:31
  Kearns: redact this and, but anyway.
• 49:33
  All right guys, that's our, uh, thing on strangers.
• 49:35
  We got some top fives for you though.
• 49:38
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 49:38
  Jon: We do sometimes.
• 49:40
  Ryan: Yes, we do.
• 49:41
  And I'm stirring off, and like I said, I'm doing top five reboots, which, you know,
• 49:47
  I've, we've been talking about remakes, trilogies, reboots, the whole thing.
• 49:51
  I took it a little different meaning like, what haven't we, how, what
• 49:55
  haven't I talked about reboot wise?
• 49:57
  And we're gonna start off with a bang.
• 50:00
  Not my favorite at the time, but it is watchable.
• 50:03
  I do enjoy it.
• 50:03
  That's why it's number five, especially with the horrible remake
• 50:07
  of a nightmare on Elm Street, which followed, and that's Friday the 13th.
• 50:11
  it's a decent reboot.
• 50:12
  It does what it does.
• 50:13
  If you ignore the fact, and I, again, I was a senior in high
• 50:16
  school when this came out.
• 50:18
  I was excited for this reboot remake, and the whole joke was he
• 50:22
  was protecting his marijuana farm, which technically he is protecting
• 50:26
  a marijuana farm during this film, but they combine one, two, and three.
• 50:32
  They at least tried, you get, you know, produced by Shauna Cunningham,
• 50:36
  who originally like, Friday the 13th.
• 50:39
  He got Michael Bay, who's right off, you know, doing Texas Chainsaw
• 50:43
  Massacre, the remake, and he got Jared pki, who supernatural fame.
• 50:49
  I mean, you can't really beat it.
• 50:52
  I, it's just like, it's right in the middle.
• 50:55
  And it's doing something different with it than what haven't seen before.
• 51:02
  Jon: It felt too, TV for me.
• 51:04
  Ryan: Ooh, okay.
• 51:06
  Okay.
• 51:08
  I have to watch it again to, to get it, but I can see where your vibe is
• 51:11
  coming and how it's filmed and stuff.
• 51:13
  I can see
• 51:14
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 51:15
  Ryan: But I'll give you this.
• 51:16
  I thought this was gonna be tv, but it wasn't.
• 51:19
  And this was a nice little curve.
• 51:20
  And that's 2020 two's Hell raise reboot.
• 51:24
  I liked it.
• 51:25
  Um, after.
• 51:26
  Kearns: already.
• 51:27
  Ryan: Yeah, but it's, uh, it's, it's good though.
• 51:30
  It's, it's good reboot.
• 51:31
  Especially after reading The Hellbound Heart, which is the
• 51:34
  original book they borrow like Pinheads look style, the voice.
• 51:42
  in the book.
• 51:42
  It's a woman pen.
• 51:43
  It's a woman who's got the voice of a boy, which is very similar to this reboot.
• 51:48
  But also the fact like there's different characters involved.
• 51:50
  The lemon configuration changes, shapes, depending on that specific character
• 51:56
  until we get to the end where goes into the cube, which I mean, I'm waiting
• 52:01
  on a sequel still, but I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon.
• 52:05
  'cause again, it just hits the nail on the head, But we are getting a game.
• 52:08
  And that leads to my number three.
• 52:10
  We've talked about this movie a couple weeks ago.
• 52:13
  I really loved it.
• 52:14
  And that's Candy Man, 2021.
• 52:16
  You can call it a reboot, you can call it a which is like a remake, se, sequel.
• 52:23
  It's everything and it hits it.
• 52:26
  And the thing is, Nia di Costa.
• 52:28
  She's an amazing director.
• 52:30
  We covered, uh, bone Temple recently.
• 52:33
  she's been delivering hits and I can't wait to see what else she does, And
• 52:37
  that leads to number two, is this, again, we're talking about reboots.
• 52:41
  last episode mentioned Evil Dead Burn.
• 52:43
  I'm excited for that.
• 52:45
  So that's why Evil Dead Rise is number two.
• 52:48
  done so well.
• 52:49
  Different vibes from the
• 52:51
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 52:52
  Ryan: like, know, you see the Neck Comic-Con, um, see,
• 52:56
  you see it in the cabin.
• 52:58
  Kearns: we're not letting that slide.
• 52:59
  I want to.
• 53:00
  I really do, but I can't.
• 53:01
  I can't.
• 53:03
  You did
• 53:03
  Ryan: If you, the second time it's been,
• 53:05
  Kearns: did
• 53:05
  Ryan: it's the second time it, then the Negro comm comma,
• 53:12
  Jon: That.
• 53:13
  Kearns: This
• 53:13
  Ryan: the Necro noon.
• 53:14
  Kearns: person.
• 53:15
  You can't even say the evil book's name.
• 53:19
  Ryan: I can easily open it though and read it, which is scarier in itself.
• 53:22
  But the neon, um, being featured in an apartment building instead,
• 53:29
  uh, gives it a little more flavor.
• 53:31
  Refreshens the concept and it's horror.
• 53:34
  And we're
• 53:35
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 53:36
  Ryan: recently, um, because me, when we saw Bow Temple, uh, Kern's mentioned,
• 53:41
  uh, we were talking about The Mummy.
• 53:42
  It's directed by Lee Cronin who directed Evil Dead Rise.
• 53:45
  And even though The Mummy, uh, we have, it's a 50 50 for us 'cause
• 53:51
  of Blumhouse, I'm hoping it's done correctly because of Lee Cronin.
• 53:56
  'cause I think Lee Cronin is a good director, but it's
• 53:59
  Blumhouse it's the, the negative.
• 54:02
  And anything with the Mummy title besides Brett and Frazier hasn't
• 54:06
  really hit the way it should?
• 54:09
  Jon: I mean, not 90 years.
• 54:12
  Ryan: I, no, not since,
• 54:14
  Jon: It's been, it's been about 90 years outside of Brendan
• 54:17
  Fraser that Mummy properties hit.
• 54:20
  Ryan: I was gonna say, are we going back to 1932, Boris Karloff, or 34 in Moap?
• 54:25
  Jon: Yeah.
• 54:26
  Somewhere in there.
• 54:27
  Somewhere in that range.
• 54:28
  Yeah.
• 54:29
  Ryan: Well,
• 54:29
  Jon: Way before any of us were Anything.
• 54:32
  Ryan: I, uh, fair point.
• 54:34
  Fair.
• 54:34
  But
• 54:35
  Kearns: They
• 54:35
  Ryan: this creature, this,
• 54:36
  Kearns: eggs of the child are in the fetus of the baby they're in the womb.
• 54:43
  So like your grandmother had your, if you're a lady like you were,
• 54:49
  you are the egg that became you was already in there the second your
• 54:53
  mother was developed inside of there.
• 54:55
  So that's, nifty.
• 54:56
  So there's a chance that your egg, egg that became you guys
• 55:00
  was around, that time more.
• 55:03
  More of a chance for John Ryan, you're the youngest.
• 55:06
  There's a shot for
• 55:07
  Ryan: yes.
• 55:07
  Jon: No, my dad was probably a thought when the mommy came out.
• 55:12
  Kearns: I
• 55:12
  Jon: Um, my mom was not.
• 55:16
  Ryan: Hold on now I gotta see the mummy.
• 55:18
  When did the original 1932 is the original one.
• 55:20
  Jon: depending on when my dad may have been in utero, my
• 55:24
  mom was not a thought yet.
• 55:26
  Kearns: in
• 55:26
  Ryan: Okay.
• 55:28
  Kearns: anyway.
• 55:28
  What a,
• 55:29
  Jon: Maybe
• 55:29
  Kearns: thing to say during the top fives.
• 55:31
  Let's continue.
• 55:33
  Ryan: Well that leads
• 55:34
  Jon: top five.
• 55:34
  Ryan: one.
• 55:35
  Number one.
• 55:36
  I mean, this creature's gone through the years and I really enjoy this reboot.
• 55:39
  Yeah.
• 55:40
  Tim Curry's still alive, but this is gonna be the modern day.
• 55:43
  It, part one and part two.
• 55:46
  I love how they take it from original book being in the fifties.
• 55:51
  They bring it it to the eighties.
• 55:53
  They bring it to modern time.
• 55:54
  And the thing is, is by doing that change, kinda rec like.
• 56:00
  It goes along with the audience.
• 56:02
  The audience is a better connection, I feel, with setting being the
• 56:06
  eighties into the two thousands.
• 56:11
  I feel like it resonates with a lot of audiences, the newer version
• 56:14
  of it, and, it's done so well.
• 56:17
  We got a show on HBO now, and it's, I feel like it's gone over
• 56:22
  what they expected it to be.
• 56:24
  I think they didn't have as high expectations thinking, oh, they've
• 56:28
  already done it, and it's grown further.
• 56:31
  when it comes to welcome to dairy, how it's becoming so expansive,
• 56:34
  I think it's leading into HBO, possibly doing a dark tower series.
• 56:40
  Kearns: And that, uh, would lead this episode to being like, I
• 56:44
  don't know, 10,000 minutes long.
• 56:46
  So I'm not even gonna talk about the dark tower right now 'cause that's bait,
• 56:49
  Ryan: That
• 56:50
  Kearns: that's bait.
• 56:51
  Ryan: beat.
• 56:51
  I'm actually, I think that's where they're headed.
• 56:53
  I mean, Amazon dropped the ball the lower the Ring show, and if HBO really
• 56:58
  wants to pick up the pieces, because I mean HBO getting bought out by
• 57:02
  Netflix, HB O's gonna have more shows.
• 57:06
  think it's, it's happening.
• 57:07
  And the idea of Pennywise going backwards in time.
• 57:11
  'cause that's the whole new gist, is he's going backwards
• 57:13
  in time to prevent his death.
• 57:15
  it's leading to a third part.
• 57:17
  So this reboot has been very expansive.
• 57:21
  It's just a rumor, but that's how they're going with it.
• 57:25
  that's my top five this week,
• 57:28
  Kearns: All right.
• 57:29
  Swinging to John, John top five.
• 57:32
  Ryan: And John.
• 57:34
  Jon: All right.
• 57:36
  I'm going back to masks.
• 57:38
  I believe I've done a mask list before, but I'm going,
• 57:42
  More obscure masks this time.
• 57:45
  Ryan: smoking.
• 57:47
  Jon: No, not Jim Carrey's The Mask.
• 57:49
  nor shares, mask.
• 57:50
  Kearns: that was another fantastic movie.
• 57:55
  Jon: number five, we're gonna start with a Jamie Lee Curtis movie, a
• 58:00
  group of kids celebrating New Year's Eve on a train it's Terror Train.
• 58:06
  it's three years after a group of friends pulled a prank, a terrible
• 58:11
  prank on a kid, and now they're on a train celebrating the new year.
• 58:16
  When things go south and they start getting off.
• 58:19
  and it seems like the past has come back to get them.
• 58:23
  Ryan: it?
• 58:25
  Jon: Uh, yes.
• 58:29
  Yep.
• 58:29
  Ryan: You know what?
• 58:30
  Jon: It's a nice watch.
• 58:31
  The remake not so much.
• 58:33
  It's a, but it's a good watch.
• 58:34
  Ryan: you
• 58:34
  Jon: It's a good watch.
• 58:35
  Ryan: say this, it's hard to come by on DVD now because as
• 58:40
  it's like outta print right now.
• 58:43
  It's one of those, but it's like, once it comes back, I feel like Vigar
• 58:46
  Syndrome or Arrow will do like a, a re-release of it because it's a, from my
• 58:50
  understanding, it's a decent slasher and
• 58:52
  Jon: Yeah.
• 58:52
  Ryan: talked about it before too, in the past, so it's like definitely on the
• 58:57
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 58:58
  Ryan: I,
• 59:00
  Jon: my number four is one that's come up before it's directed by Toby Hooper.
• 59:05
  It's
• 59:06
  Ryan: yes.
• 59:07
  I love the Fun House movie.
• 59:10
  Jon: So a group of friends decide to spend the night in the fun house at
• 59:14
  the local carnival, only to witness a murder committed by a man and a mask.
• 59:19
  but when they attempt to leave, they're stuck.
• 59:22
  They are locked in.
• 59:23
  There is no escape, and they are now the prey of the masked man.
• 59:28
  Ryan: The book is supposed to
• 59:29
  Kearns: Still surprised.
• 59:30
  Dean Koonz.
• 59:32
  the one based on Dean Koontz's book.
• 59:35
  That one's got some questionable scenes too, but it sounds like
• 59:40
  it's different than the book.
• 59:41
  The book has more than a masked man.
• 59:44
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 59:45
  Kearns: The book has a creature.
• 59:46
  Jon: Yes, there is more than a mask man, also.
• 59:49
  Kearns: All right.
• 59:50
  Jon: Yeah.
• 59:50
  Yeah, there's some creepy stuff hiding in there too, besides the mask.
• 59:55
  My number three is a movie called The Prowler.
• 1:00:01
  this mask is pretty good.
• 1:00:03
  Google the cover, you're gonna see a nice, interesting mask.
• 1:00:08
  so a killer clad in army fatigues is determined to reenact a brutal
• 1:00:12
  30 5-year-old double homicide on the night of the graduation dance.
• 1:00:19
  Ryan: It's very gritty.
• 1:00:20
  Jon: It's gritty.
• 1:00:21
  It's very gritty.
• 1:00:22
  It's very rough.
• 1:00:24
  It's also really good.
• 1:00:27
  It's really good.
• 1:00:27
  And my next movie's pretty gritty too.
• 1:00:29
  My number two is the original, not the remake, although the
• 1:00:33
  remaking was surprisingly decent.
• 1:00:35
  Also, it's the town that dreaded sunrise.
• 1:00:38
  And the mask in this is simple.
• 1:00:40
  It's, a sack.
• 1:00:42
  It's basically just a burlap sack mask.
• 1:00:45
  very similar to the original Friday, the 13th part two mask.
• 1:00:49
  so 1946 Tex Arkana, a hooded killer terrorized the town at night.
• 1:00:56
  The body count grows as the police are befuddled.
• 1:01:01
  you get a nice, like early seventies weird cast.
• 1:01:04
  you get Ben Johnson, who's in last picture show, the getaway, the wild bunch.
• 1:01:09
  She's, you know, someone you'll recognize when you see him.
• 1:01:11
  And you also get Marianne from Gilligan's Island, Dawn Wells, yep.
• 1:01:18
  Probably the only thing I ever saw her in, besides Gilligan's Island.
• 1:01:24
  Ryan: man.
• 1:01:25
  Jon: No, professor.
• 1:01:27
  I went through, his IMDB recently.
• 1:01:30
  It's hard to find a lot of stuff that we can pigeon hole into this.
• 1:01:35
  and my number one, 11-year-old Brooke Shields in a weird little
• 1:01:41
  movie called Alice Sweet Alice.
• 1:01:45
  when Alice's younger sister is brutally murdered, the 12-year-old is the
• 1:01:49
  prime suspect, then the body count grows and the question becomes, could
• 1:01:55
  a 12-year-old commit such brutality?
• 1:01:59
  Kearns: the Good Son.
• 1:01:59
  So yes, based on that film.
• 1:02:04
  All right.
• 1:02:05
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:05
  Well, no, this, the good son is pro more related, uh, based on this, this
• 1:02:10
  was mid, early to mid seventies also.
• 1:02:12
  Kearns: it based.
• 1:02:13
  I didn't mean this
• 1:02:14
  Jon: So out.
• 1:02:15
  Yeah.
• 1:02:15
  Kearns: My
• 1:02:16
  Jon: Oh, okay.
• 1:02:16
  Yeah.
• 1:02:17
  Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  Okay.
• 1:02:19
  Yeah.
• 1:02:19
  Ryan: You're number two
• 1:02:20
  Jon: I got you.
• 1:02:21
  Ryan: that dreaded sundown.
• 1:02:22
  I'm, I'm curious in that curious.
• 1:02:24
  In that film,
• 1:02:25
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 1:02:26
  That one piqued my interest
• 1:02:27
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:27
  Ryan: mentioning a western.
• 1:02:30
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:31
  I need a Western right now.
• 1:02:33
  Damn.
• 1:02:33
  Jon: It does ha It's, it's got a little western feel to it.
• 1:02:38
  It's not a Western, but it's got that, you know, that Texarkana, you know, setting
• 1:02:44
  it definitely has some of that to it, but
• 1:02:48
  Kearns: Cool.
• 1:02:49
  Jon: definitely.
• 1:02:50
  Kearns: That was our episode on Strangers one.
• 1:02:54
  Uh, you may not get to see us do chapter two, but the here was chapter one.
• 1:02:59
  Ryan: do chapter two and three.
• 1:03:01
  Speak grudgingly.
• 1:03:04
  Begrudgingly.
• 1:03:07
  Jon: Uh, maybe when they're both available, we can roll them into one.
• 1:03:11
  Ryan: Oh, you, uh, yeah.
• 1:03:12
  Kearns: We'll see how it goes.
• 1:03:13
  This was a big stinker, but anyway, that's Cino Mania, episode 58.
• 1:03:18
  We hope we'll see you next time guys.