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Patriots Unfiltered 8/7: Key Takeaways and Observations from Joint Practice, Preseason Game 1 Preview · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 5: T and this with the statue unveiling.
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  Speaker 4: interesting Patriots fan in the world, I refer to him
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  Speaker 4: as that Fred doesn't refer to him.
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  Speaker 7: But anyway, when the head coach talks about the tackles versatility.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Let's Stadium,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna see my T shirt available in the
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  Speaker 4: pro shop. Yeah uh, it's Thursday here at Chilet's Stadium
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  Speaker 4: and we are still talking about yesterday's joint practice with
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  Speaker 4: the Commanders. It was, I think, a good day for
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  Speaker 4: the Patriots.
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  Speaker 7: What's this folder he's got going on right here? Yea?
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  Speaker 6: I brought my further, I brought my father today to
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  Speaker 6: old school Patriots little I'm allowed to have this, but
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  Speaker 6: it has all of my practice notes. So I thought
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  Speaker 6: it maybe if we choose to look back at some
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  Speaker 6: of the practices. I can consult my notes and.
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  Speaker 4: Tell you what I had, all right, yes, but we'll.
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  Speaker 7: Be making fun of them. I brought my notebook for
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  Speaker 7: the same reason.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be talking about yesterday's joint. We'll be looking ahead
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  Speaker 4: to tomorrow's preseason game as well as the Brady statue
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  Speaker 4: one veiling at six pm live on Patriots dot Com.
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  Speaker 4: There was a little snippet of a video that was
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  Speaker 4: released on Patriots dot Com of the arrival of the statue.
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  Speaker 4: Came in the dead of night a couple of nights ago.
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  Speaker 4: I can't really see much, can't really see much, but
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  Speaker 4: it's here. For the statue was here, so we're excited
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  Speaker 4: about that. And Tom Brady will be here as well.
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  Speaker 4: Alex is here, Duce is here, Evan's here, Paul's here,
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  Speaker 4: I'm here, Matt's in the booth, and this is Patriot's
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  Speaker 4: unfiltered Let's.
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  Speaker 9: Go, Let's let's go, let's go.
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  Speaker 4: All right, So I know, you know, we thought you
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  Speaker 4: guys had to wrap up of the practice yesterday. So
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  Speaker 4: if you haven't already seen that, that is out there,
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  Speaker 4: that video. But you know, as a as a larger group,
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  Speaker 4: our first opportunity to talk about what we saw yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: and I my thing is, just don't make it look
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  Speaker 4: like last year against the Eagles, and they job. The
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  Speaker 4: job was a comp box checked, Yes, box checked.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, really fun competitive joint practice.
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  Speaker 6: Thinking back to some of the ones that we've watched
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  Speaker 6: over the years, and some of those they had flashes
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  Speaker 6: here and there, but it didn't feel like a great practice.
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  Speaker 6: It felt like, yeah, they were terrible, but that last
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  Speaker 6: period they were pretty good.
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  Speaker 9: Those were I remember.
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  Speaker 6: That was kind of my takeaway from the Raiders this one.
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  Speaker 6: It felt like, you know, there certainly wasn't all perfect. There's,
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  Speaker 6: you know, some definite things to work on, but overall,
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  Speaker 6: it felt like a competitive practice back and forth and
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  Speaker 6: two teams that seemed, at least on the field pretty
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  Speaker 6: evenly matched. And I think that's a great sign for
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  Speaker 6: a team like the Patriots who were trying to bounce
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  Speaker 6: back from back to back four win seasons.
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  Speaker 7: Yep, well go ahead, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think now that I've slept on it a little bit,
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  Speaker 5: like I came down from my cloud nine yesterday after
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  Speaker 5: the practice because I was very excited about what I saw,
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  Speaker 5: and now you put it in a little bit more perspective,
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  Speaker 5: like we are talking about practice like this was not
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  Speaker 5: you know, they I haven't won any games yet, but
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  Speaker 5: I think what you saw was highly encouraging. I watched
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  Speaker 5: more of the offense, just watch more of the defense,
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  Speaker 5: but offensively up until the very very end when Drake
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  Speaker 5: threw that pick, he was kind of dealing like he
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  Speaker 5: really had his way with the Commander's defense. And I
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  Speaker 5: thought the offensive line held its own and he had
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  Speaker 5: some clean pockets and I was able to move the
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  Speaker 5: ball down the field. I thought some of the Josh
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  Speaker 5: McDaniels elements of the offense were clicking and work, and
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  Speaker 5: you saw the scheme creating open receivers and things of
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  Speaker 5: that nature as well. So I was highly encouraged by
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  Speaker 5: what I saw. And I think the biggest thing is
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  Speaker 5: the offensive line, the fact that they went out there and.
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  Speaker 4: They were able to exit.
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  Speaker 5: They were a competent yeah, And I thought Will Campbell
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  Speaker 5: and Jared Wilson showed well. So overall, I have hard
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  Speaker 5: not to be pretty optimistic about what you saw.
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  Speaker 7: A lot of energy. That was the thing I kept
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  Speaker 7: coming back to. I just felt like they practiced at
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  Speaker 7: a different tempo than what we've seen the recent years.
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  Speaker 7: In those joint practices, so I thought there was a
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  Speaker 7: lot to be encouraged about. I agree with Mike and Evan.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I'm not getting lost here, and I don't
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  Speaker 7: think they quote won the practice, you know, I just
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  Speaker 7: think they really competed well. I thought both sides sort
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  Speaker 7: of had periods where they looked good, and both sides
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  Speaker 7: had periods where the opponent made them look bad. And
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  Speaker 7: I think that's what you're looking for. You're looking to
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  Speaker 7: learn and get better now. It's it's going to be
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  Speaker 7: important for them to do the same thing next week
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  Speaker 7: when they go to Minnesota. Stack them, as they tell
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  Speaker 7: us all the time, don't just say well we had
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  Speaker 7: that good day on Wednesday, Yeah, and then you know,
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  Speaker 7: the following week in Minnesota it took a step back.
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  Speaker 7: I think you'll be up a little bit in weight
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  Speaker 7: class with the Vikings. I think that's a more talented roster.
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  Speaker 7: But I agree with Evan about the offense. I was
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  Speaker 7: much more impressed with the offense than I was the defense.
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  Speaker 7: I thought that there were periods of time where the
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  Speaker 7: rhythm just kind of fell into place. It was Pop
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  Speaker 7: Douglas quick getting ope for really quick. It's Kayshaun Boody
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  Speaker 7: on the sideline. They get some back shoulder plays the
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  Speaker 7: tight ends, both of them, Henry and Hooper making plays
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  Speaker 7: down the seam. I just thought there was a lot
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  Speaker 7: to be encouraged by With Drake May I wasn't as
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  Speaker 7: happy with the protection as some others were, but it's
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  Speaker 7: certainly I would think it's more than fair. The way
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  Speaker 7: you guys described it, it was competent and last year, right,
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  Speaker 7: and I don't see any way that you're going to
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  Speaker 7: get back to last year. And you know, I don't
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  Speaker 7: see any way that's going to be the case.
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  Speaker 4: May stats as they were. There was even a perfect
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  Speaker 4: pass to Henderson in the corner of the end zone
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  Speaker 4: that was dropped that would have added to the touchdown.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and Pop dropped an open crosser too early on
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  Speaker 5: in the practice that was right on his hands also,
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  Speaker 5: So I I gotta be honest, Like, I didn't really
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  Speaker 5: feel like the Commander's defense made very many plays outside
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  Speaker 5: of the Wagner pick.
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  Speaker 7: Like I think the Patriots offense was good.
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  Speaker 4: The Wagon pick was tipped at the line. Now that's
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  Speaker 4: on the court, but Bobby Wagner, Yeah, Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Tanner still caught the pick off the ricochet. But up
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  Speaker 5: until that point, I kind of thought Drake made was
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  Speaker 5: doing what he what he wanted out there with the
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  Speaker 5: Commander's defense, and that was I haven't seen that in
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  Speaker 5: a Patriots joint practice in quite some time.
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  Speaker 7: In real real quick. Alex hit interested to see what
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  Speaker 7: you thought of the the atmosphere too, But Fred, you
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  Speaker 7: and I always kind of joke around about like how
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  Speaker 7: many people here? That was kind of an old school crowd. Yes,
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  Speaker 7: oh yeah, yes, yesterday there was you know, some people
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  Speaker 7: estimated about thirteen thousand people. There were a lot of
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  Speaker 7: people up on the ramps, and they were into the practice.
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  Speaker 7: I took some time, Fred, to actually mix in with
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  Speaker 7: the with the fonds and your people.
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  Speaker 4: You needed to get something.
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  Speaker 7: No. I watched. I watched one of the periods I had.
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  Speaker 7: I had a friend from out of town here. It was.
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  Speaker 7: It was frustrating because they came by with big plates
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  Speaker 7: and I was like, oh, that looks. But I watched
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  Speaker 7: one of the periods in the red zone from down
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  Speaker 7: and you could feel like listening to conversations A couple
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  Speaker 7: of younger guys are behind me, like talking about digs
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  Speaker 7: and booty and how good they've been and just there
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  Speaker 7: just seemed to be an overall enthusiasm and excitement that
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  Speaker 7: I haven't really heard in the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, they're just even getting here.
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  Speaker 10: I got here probably twenty minutes later than I wanted to,
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  Speaker 10: even before they opened gates.
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  Speaker 7: Because you were digs.
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  Speaker 4: Because he was late to No, I was not.
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  Speaker 10: I'd probably be riding in a cooler whip if I
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  Speaker 10: was with him, just me and my raft.
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  Speaker 11: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think it might be back on. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: there's there. I don't know, just how can you keep up?
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  Speaker 10: But it felt like a game day driving in here yesterday,
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  Speaker 10: and just like you said, seeing the people on the rafters,
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  Speaker 10: I certainly haven't seen a training camp that busy since
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  Speaker 10: I started working here, maybe back to the tom days
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  Speaker 10: when I was covering the team externally. But just like
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  Speaker 10: there was an infectious energy here yesterday on and off
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  Speaker 10: the field, like the players were bringing it, and then
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  Speaker 10: the fans, like there's a tangible excitement for better for
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  Speaker 10: worse with this team this year, and then when they
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  Speaker 10: perform like they did, it's hard.
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  Speaker 3: Like you said, Evan, you came down. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: I've come down yet.
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  Speaker 10: Like I'm more encouraged by what I've seen all camp,
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  Speaker 10: especially yesterday, than I ever have been working here, especially
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  Speaker 10: on the offensive side, And like Booty's catch with Latimore
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  Speaker 10: in coverage yesterday was like the moment where I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 10: like these guys. I think Mac Collins had a really
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  Speaker 10: good quote in one of his availabilities where this is
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  Speaker 10: the first receiver group he's ever been in where everyone's
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  Speaker 10: really really competing. There's not like a couple guys, and
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  Speaker 10: then there's the lower tiers, like everyone is fighting for
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  Speaker 10: a job, and like.
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  Speaker 4: You can take that a couple different ways, but I yes,
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  Speaker 4: I've heard that choosing to.
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  Speaker 10: Take it in the way that like you have digs
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  Speaker 10: and everyone else is really trying to cement a spot
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  Speaker 10: on this team. I think coming into camp, don't you
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  Speaker 10: didn't know where things were gonna land with Pop Douglas
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  Speaker 10: and how he was gonna, I don't know, be viewed
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  Speaker 10: at by the coaching staff. I think he's an absolute
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  Speaker 10: lock after the performance I've seen. I think Booty's had
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  Speaker 10: a good camp. Baker has kind of come out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 10: For me, like there's just and then obviously you have digs,
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  Speaker 10: you have the tight ends that are just gonna be
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  Speaker 10: standards in this offense, and it's just so much more
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  Speaker 10: exciting than at this point.
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  Speaker 4: Last year, you know, in the red zone. I heard
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  Speaker 4: this from so Bundy. I haven't verified it that Austin
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  Speaker 4: Hooper's stats last year were better than Travis Kelcey's in
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  Speaker 4: the red zone.
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  Speaker 7: I believe what do you get for that? Just out
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  Speaker 7: of curiosity, I'd be interested to the worst year of
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  Speaker 7: his career as.
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  Speaker 5: A sneaky good year though, as.
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  Speaker 7: I think he's rock solid as a second.
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  Speaker 10: Our tight ends are just always the least of my problems.
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  Speaker 10: Drake's comfort with both of those guys, and Hooper hasn't
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  Speaker 10: even been practicing this whole time, he's been dealing with
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  Speaker 10: an injury. He came in and instantly was like one
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  Speaker 10: of Drake's go tos.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think put it well, like about some
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  Speaker 5: of the last couple of years at the joint practices
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  Speaker 5: that we've been at, like the Eagles One aside Eagles
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  Speaker 5: One was it was its.
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  Speaker 4: Own thing, like that was just the bottom of the bottom.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you for saying it for me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the the last couple of years, like when we
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  Speaker 5: were in Green Bay, it was like that DeVante Parker
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  Speaker 5: catch like kinda made you feel better about the day.
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  Speaker 5: But if we sort of took a step back, you
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  Speaker 5: realized that, like the Packers kind of controlled practice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: the Raiders in Las Vegas the same thing. DeVante Adams
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  Speaker 5: just torching the Patriots defense and yeah, they had like
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  Speaker 5: one really good drive towards the end of the practice.
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  Speaker 5: But like overall the Raiders, this practice was far more even,
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  Speaker 5: where like we didn't have to like pick, like cherry
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  Speaker 5: picked those little moments.
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  Speaker 3: It was consolation prizes that we were looking for.
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  Speaker 7: We were cherry picking.
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  Speaker 5: We were saying, like, oh, well they had the Parker
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  Speaker 5: caught the touchdown at the end, so we won practice.
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  Speaker 5: You know, this was like much more of something that
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  Speaker 5: was from start to finish. They they were able to
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  Speaker 5: execute their offense, which was highly encouraging.
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  Speaker 4: We have to mention the fight, the big fight.
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  Speaker 3: To the memes are unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: That Mike Rabel found himself in the middle of. But
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  Speaker 4: the description that I heard that got me more jazz
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  Speaker 4: than Rabel getting in there and getting bloodied was Will
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  Speaker 4: Campbell's involvement.
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  Speaker 7: You know, that's not the direction I thought that was
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  Speaker 7: so this is.
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  Speaker 4: The and you guys can correct me if you heard
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  Speaker 4: something different. But my description that I heard was it
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  Speaker 4: started with a Trevion Henderson.
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  Speaker 12: Let's pick up or the best part of the whole thing,
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  Speaker 12: That's what I was. So, yeah, I don't know who.
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  Speaker 12: I didn't hear who was on but anyway, whoever whoever
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  Speaker 12: he picked up, he drove him to the ground and
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  Speaker 12: they were tussling in the ground and that started a fight.
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  Speaker 12: Will Campbell saw that he was the first one.
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  Speaker 9: In that's I was ready to die.
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  Speaker 4: And he hit the guy who was on top of
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  Speaker 4: Henderson and then all hell broke clues. But I love
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  Speaker 4: Will Campbell's It's in his blood. It really is, like
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  Speaker 4: his instinct is get in there. Don't even think about it.
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  Speaker 10: I heard, and can't no way to confirm this because
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  Speaker 10: unless you're in the I heard that, Like getting cut
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  Speaker 10: was just like a straight from Campbell.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, what will happen?
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  Speaker 5: But my biggest takeaway from the whole thing was Travon Henderson,
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  Speaker 5: Like Travon Henderson blocked the guy so well physically that
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  Speaker 5: he got mad that he blocked him so well, and
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  Speaker 5: it started a whole.
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  Speaker 4: Drove him to the ground, I can't understand you getting.
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  Speaker 7: And I think the first fight happened for the opposite reason.
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  Speaker 7: I think Stevenson got knocked over and he took exception,
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  Speaker 7: and I agree with Stevenson. We're not drilling guys to
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  Speaker 7: the ground in these practices, and I think he got mad.
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  Speaker 7: The next play I think was one of the one
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  Speaker 7: of the fights and the blitz pick up. That's his reputation. Henderson,
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  Speaker 7: his running backs coaches name escapes me right now, said
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  Speaker 7: that he's not just the best in blitz pick up.
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  Speaker 7: He's not the best running back pass blocker. He's the
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  Speaker 7: best pass protector in the draft. That's what he said.
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  Speaker 7: In the country any position, he said, he's the best
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  Speaker 7: blocker in the draft. And that's what you saw. It
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  Speaker 7: was a safety. I think his name is Kwan Martin.
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  Speaker 7: So that because I was looking, I had I had
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  Speaker 7: the boys, you know, back behind the scenes. There's a
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  Speaker 7: lot of people involved behind the scenes here, so I
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  Speaker 7: had them to see if they could. We didn't have
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  Speaker 7: a good look at it, but you can see Number
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  Speaker 7: twenty is creeping to the line of scrimmage and he
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  Speaker 7: comes at the snap. He's coming off the edge and
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  Speaker 7: you see Henderson getting in position to hit him. I
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  Speaker 7: don't see twenty four anywhere, so I know a lot
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  Speaker 7: of people had assigned this because my immediate reaction with
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  Speaker 7: von Miller was how could he possibly care enough at
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  Speaker 7: a joint fact, at this stage of his career to
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  Speaker 7: get a fight. That was my initial reaction. And I
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  Speaker 7: didn't see him anywhere. The only time I saw him
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  Speaker 7: was after the whole thing was over. He went over
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  Speaker 7: to Rable and sort of gave him a pat in
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  Speaker 7: the back. I don't know as if to say, maybe
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  Speaker 7: like if sorry a cut, maybe Miller was involved in
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  Speaker 7: him getting cut, or if he was like, you know,
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  Speaker 7: this is nonsense. This shouldn't be happening. Sorry, you know,
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  Speaker 7: sorry for our pardon it or whatever. I have no idea,
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  Speaker 7: but I did see him go to Vrabel once, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the sides had sort of separated. But I think I'm
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  Speaker 7: not This is not a guarantee, but from what little
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  Speaker 7: video I saw, twenty was the one who looked to
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  Speaker 7: be engaged with Henderson, and Henderson buried him, and I
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  Speaker 7: think that's what started it.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, nice, and then Campbell, that's.
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: What that's if you heard the way the Ohio States
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: coach talked about it. You would not be surprised, was
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: it Sean McVay.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: There was an NFL coach that said he's the best
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: blitz pick up pass protector he's ever seen coming out
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: of college. I forget which NFL.
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: Let's go, Let's go, like Drake's never gonna get touched.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: But like I know, it's like a disaminutia thing of
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: the game.
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: But like all Lachlan, I wanted to give him credit.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: Like he won't play on third down if he can't
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: do it. So like if you can't, if he can't
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: pick up blitzers and he can't as protect, he's not
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: going to be on the field. So the fact that
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: he can do that is going to allow them to
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: actually play him as much as we all want to see.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Him play, and right from the get go, because like
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Kevin Falk was good at it and James White got
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: really but they developed it. That's why he's.
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: Goods had red shirt.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they all sat because of pass protection, not
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: because they weren't quick and not because they couldn't get open,
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: And it was because of pass protection. So if Traveon
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: Henderson can come in right away as a rookie and
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: pass protect as good as he did in college, where
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: there's like literally highlight reels of his college pass blocking, like.
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: There is a weapon.
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: Y go to YouTube and you can get some enjoyment
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: out of that. He buries guys. Yeah, then he's he's.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Going to get a nice little present from Drake May
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: around Christmas time.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: I can tell you that he's a player, man. I
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: mean he's like, even though you though he dropped the
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: wheel route, like there's there, these linebackers are in torture
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: chambers trying to cover.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: I haven't seen anybody come close to covering him effectively yet.
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: It's just darts.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: I mean, like I said a ten hundred times, he floats,
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: and the catches are great and the downfield stuff. But
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: I still think he's got You get a scene on
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: him and he's going to be gone. I mean, it's
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: just you see the acceleration with it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: It's and so I know that all coaches, including Rabel,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: they don't want to come out publicly and say, yeah,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I'm glad we got into a fight and I told
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: my guys to fight and all this stuff. But even
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: what Drake said, We're not going to back down to anybody,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure today or whenever they're talking about it,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: they're all, yeah, you.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: Know, yeah, well you know, I mean Pop Douglas talking
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: about it yesterday, you know, laughing about Rabel saying you
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: should have seen the other guy, Like to me, as
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: a player, you see your coach, and you already knew
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: Rabel's a tough guy who's played in the NFL.
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: But I think this just helps bring the team together
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: even more.
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: And I was going back to the Will Campbell he
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: the Will Campbell high school videos that we talked about
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: last week, Fred, which is that snarley attitude that Will
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: Campbell plays with, and it's all the talk we talked
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: about his you know, physical measurements and all that and
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: his experience. But I think that leadership element and that
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: a toughness from that left tackle positions.
• 19:02
  Speaker 9: Is a is a nice part of the package with
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: Will cam.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: You gotta have that as an offensive lineman, like in
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: all seriousness, like the finishing and that attitude, like you
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: have to have that that that's like gotta be ingrained
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: in you to be like truly elite like all like
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: the really great lineman in the league.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the way Mankins was he was so
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: soft spoken off the field, but in the in the
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: on the field, he just.
• 19:24
  Speaker 9: Right in the nuts.
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: You can see it though with Mankins, like you just
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: look at Mankins like that's a tough guy. But I would, like,
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: you know, I put out Chered Wilson, who it doesn't
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: really seem like that guy.
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not saying this is the negative thing
• 19:33
  Speaker 9: with him.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: He just he comes off as a really athletic, cerebral guy,
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: more like Joe Toney, who excellent you know, probably maybe
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: Hall of Fame left guard.
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: Not quite the Maller like edge that you see.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: With guys like you know, like Logan Mankins embodied so perfectly,
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: but a lot of ways to do it.
• 19:48
  Speaker 10: You're right, it's like a funny like listening to Jared
• 19:51
  Speaker 10: Wilson and I also get this listening to Travion It's
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: like they're both such kind, nice, soft spoken guys really
• 19:59
  Speaker 10: are too intelligent and good heads on their shoulders, and
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: then especially so violent like on the field and physical.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: It's really funny the juxtaposition.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: So that's uh, yeah, that's that stuff.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: We're back talk.
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: I just want to talk a little bit about the
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: defense because I felt a little on an island yesterday.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: Well, no, it was really funny because I think this
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: is the only one tired.
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: Well it was me, Matt Doloff and and and so.
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: Do the fun stuff.
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: But it was good.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: It was good for me because you know, like like
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: I see what I see, and I you know, confident
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: in what I see. But it's always nice to just
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: you know, compare it a little bit to to what
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: you already saw as well.
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: And I felt like we had you know, similar observations
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: and you know, just to highlight exact ERTs. That's an area.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: Of question for me.
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: How are we going to be covering tight ends this year?
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: You know, it's been we spent a lot of time
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: talking about Duggers and Peppers, and I think the thing
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: with both of them is, you know, what's great and
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: they're playing downhill and seaball get ball, but you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: really pure coverage snaps against the linebacker we know who's
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: coming here week one, that's a part of the defense
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: right now that have a little bit of question about
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: how are they going to handle covering the really elite
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: tight ends that they're going to face. And you know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: another thing that I think Mike highlighted, well that that
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: maybe I downplayed. I did mention it, but you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: just they lost the edge a couple of times, and
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: that's something that there was at least one run with
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: I think was Robinson that you were just like, oh,
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: he gone.
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: So those are a couple of things to clean up.
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: But it did confirm the rest for me of you.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: Know, because I'm looking at the stats and I'm like,
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: Jane Daniels didn't throw a touchdown yesterday. He didn't throw
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: a touchdown on eleven on eleven, you know, so even
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: if you just look at that simple thing, like that's
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: a nice little thing for the defense to come out
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: of that day. There were a couple couple of passes
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: where they were headed for the end zone but disrupted
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: the timing good tight coverage. So there was definitely some
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: some struggles early on. But I think we both saw
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: it in a similar fashion that the defense improved as
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: the day went on, and.
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: They gave Jaydan Daniels some problems, especially through the air.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: And they didn't throw a touchdown with our best well,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Davis was out there right, no.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: Two corners were out but Lawren too, that's a that's
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: a watchful. I thought the thing I was impressed with
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: was the pass rush. I thought that Barmore in particular,
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: but Harold andry To, I thought they had, you know,
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: a pretty constant presence. I did not see the struggles
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: for Jadon Daniels. I thought Jaden and Daniels was the
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: best player in the field yesterday, both teams. But the
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: thing I was most encouraged by was I thought consistently
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: they were getting penetration and getting into the backfield, and
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: we didn't see that a lot last year. I was
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: number one thing I came away in coverage.
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: I'm surprised by this, Paul. Usually I see eyed eye
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: with you on just about everything. I did not see it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: And I thought he was just so under control. I
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: was a little impressed with him. I thought he was
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: more of just kind of like an athlete who plays.
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: And now I'm looking at it and it's like he's
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: a quarterback.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: He was thirty years old.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: He's one year older than Drake. He is he's almost well,
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: he's one year older than let's get it right.
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: There was a way to know, uh, thirty years old.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I know he's not thirty kid.
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: I looked at this, did I get this wrong. Well,
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure I looked at this on the face
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: he might it might be a year and eight months,
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: but like he's like, he's okay, so a year and
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: a half, Like I mean, is that really I mean
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: rounding up?
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: But he had the college experience.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: The college experience absolutely, yeah, college for six years and
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: Drake was only in for three, right, that's absolutely true.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: He is his release and his accuracy or off the
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: charts good. Like he's got one of the quickest releases
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: of any quarterback. Just and he he did this at
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: his bro day, Like you just stand on a spot
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: and he can just he can just humt it from
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: any like just like normal pocket quarterback stuff. Like he's
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: definitely not just a runner like he's he's a complete player.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: And I think it's his poise that stands out the
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: most to me, Like he doesn't really make any wrong
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: reads or bad decisions. And he's also calmbat there.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: That's what Paul said. He's under control.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he was really under control. Even the times where
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: like Barbo would flesh him and he would like start rolling,
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: he'd be just like because he knows he can. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: And he did a couple of times were definitely there
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: are you know that's got a Simon McLaurin because Deepo
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: ain't good enough by himself.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: I read some of their their beat just to get
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: the perspective of what they saw at the practice, and uh,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: you know, there are some tweets that are going around
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: that you know, are contradictory to what some of the
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: Patriots people are saying. Obviously, you know, you look at
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: it through your own team's lens, but all of them
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: across the board were saying, you know, Terry McLaurin, is
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: the leverage that he has is only going up in
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: his favor because it's this is what's happening in their
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: own practices too, is that the receivers can't get open.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: And they came here to for the joint practice and
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: they couldn't get open against our guys and Carlon Davis
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: and Christian Zalez aren't even out there and they can't
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: get open. So everybody's like number one takeaway from Washington
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: was they need to get Terry McLaurin back in the fold.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Like there's just nothing more money, there's no like.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Real, Yeah, they will be taking a step backwards this
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: year but getting back because they're not that good betting.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Getting back to Christian Barmore, I was one player. I
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: was watching some of the one on ones that he
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: was doing, and he was a man among boys times.
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah for sure.
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: I mean for all the attention, you know, excitement about
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: bringing Milt Williams in, I think we forgot about how
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: good Christian Barmore could be fully recovered from the blood coots.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: And I think they took steps early in camp to
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: manage that a little bit. You could tell that that
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: they were still wary of perhaps a relapse.
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: With that kind of thing.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: But right now having him go full bore in those
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: joint practices, I mean you could just see it. He's
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: he's a nightmare and night I just echo a Paul
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: said about Harold Landry guy questions about Tennessee let him go.
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: I mean, he had nine sacks last year. You knew
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: he was a productive guy. Is he on the downturn?
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: But he looks in shape, He's out there early, he
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: seems like he's really focused.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: And he had one rep. I don't know who he
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: was going up against, but it wasn't all his strength.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: The way he used his hands, it was like she
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: said Chuck Norris, Like not Chuck Norris, who's the other
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: guy that Chuck Norris, Bruce or whatever. But it was
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Barbara hadn't even taken a step yet and he had
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: already rid himself of the guy, and he had a
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: clear path to, you know, up the middle. It was
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: just the handwork was looks like it's improved.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: And I wouldn't This isn't like meant to be an
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: insult towards Melton Williams. But like Christian Barmore at his
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: peak is a better player than Milton Williams. Like Christian
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Barber is a more complete three down player two years
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: ago than Melon Williams has been in Philly. So like
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: I agree with.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: Duce, like I bio draft picked.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of feel like Barmore is because of
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: the blood clots and you know, there's always that weariness
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: of like can you trust it? Like he's gonna be
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: back and he's gonna stay healthy and all that kind
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: of stuff. But he's he's probably a more of like
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: a we gotta circle this guy in some respects in
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: Millan Williams, because he makes plays against the run and
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: the past and he's effective in both ways. So he's
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: had a great camp. I think every single time he's
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: out there, he's noticeable, even though it hasn't been you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: full go for him.
• 27:21
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like he's in good shape this year.
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: And this is just strictly the eye test. I haven't seen,
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: but he just looks healthier.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gone to three h five I think he
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: said from Mike three twenty, so he's lost some weight.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And to Williams, will probably just only helped.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: So yeah, let's.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Go right for.
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: We're fortunate.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Did you have something snarky to say?
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: You can say, no, I'm gonna wait next week. We've
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: done enough the coach breaking up a fight at practices.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: I'll wait till next week.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Wet blanket, wet blanket.
• 27:58
  Speaker 13: Oh.
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: I don't think fights aren't good.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I know, but it's the symbolism. It's the symbolism of
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: the instinct of jumping in there up.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: That's what the Carolina was here a couple of years ago.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: That was a bigger fight. That was a bigger fight.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Jeer in the middle of all of them, there was
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: one that that went into the state.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm the nicest guy in They had Matthew
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Slater's back in a hurry in those Carolina practices.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: That was a crazy practice, all right?
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Eight five five Pats five hundred is the hotline podcast
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: at Patriots dot com. Is the email address? Uh So,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: we're getting a lot of emails, a lot of calls,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: So let's start emptying out these phone lines so other
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: people can call. We'll start with as we seems to
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: be a thing now, Nate and Connecticut. What's up, Nate?
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: Good?
• 28:58
  Speaker 14: Good question for you guys, is uh who has been
• 29:03
  Speaker 14: the like the vocal leader or like the guy who
• 29:06
  Speaker 14: like uh so, like cheers people at that. You know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 14: if a quarterback throws a pick or filling up a touchdown,
• 29:13
  Speaker 14: who's been that guy that picks them up when they're down,
• 29:16
  Speaker 14: or who's been the leader that you know controls the
• 29:19
  Speaker 14: pace of the practice or something like that.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, good question? Is it Peppers?
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: On defense?
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Would you say?
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: Maybe he's definitely one of the he's the rara guy
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: in the usually in the huddles. But I don't know,
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: I don't know why on offense, I would kind of look.
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: To Drake to be that guy. I hope it's Drake.
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: That's what it needs to be he.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: Wants him to be that guy, you know, yeah, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: I don't see, uh, I haven't really clocked anything that's oh,
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: you know, Morgan Moses has taken the offense under his
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: wing after that bad series. I haven't noticed things like
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: that with with any of those guys. And I mean,
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: to be honest, he mention a couple of examples of like, oh,
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: they threw a couple of interceptions. I mean, there haven't
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: really been a lot of downtime and then we go
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: right back into a drill. Really the downtime for the
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: offense it has been the end of the last three
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: competitive practices, so there's not really a chance to see
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: them try to bounce back. Maybe those things are happening
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: behind the scenes.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: I don't really feel like that's an offense thing in general,
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: like quarterback outside the quarterback obviously, but like maybe there's
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: an offensive lineman that's a veteran, like a David Andrews type,
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: that's like vocal, but defense is the one that like,
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: you know, Jabil Peppers comes in and gets everybody fired
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: up and like, you know, ready to play. I don't
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: really know if that's so much like you don't see
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: that as often as it's a quarterback like Brady going
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: up and down the sideline barking at guys.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Right, that's true. Sometimes receivers and yeah, because they want
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: the ball. They're more concerned with what I'm doing rather
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: than the team.
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I mean I could see Bourne doing it, but he's
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: not out there right now.
• 30:47
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: There you go, Freddy, you to be on.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Board, Yeah, there you go. No, everybody, that's that's the head.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: Bloody after jumping into scrum, wrong, wrong thing, me, Rambo,
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: how will you live? John?
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: First? Blood watching what's up? Patty?
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Hey?
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: Patty?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: First Nate and now me Travis and West Virginia must
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: be throwing a conniption fit right now. First, with the
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: t I A. N and myself met up yesterday and
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: we took him to practice and even before the scrum
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: that the place was electric, man, awesome break time. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: had a question about the dispenses back or not back
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: to the cornerback depth. I know, like we've been expressing
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit of concern on some of the depth
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: on this scheme. To know that the position at cornerbacks
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: came up as as seeing a concern. But with the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: quote unquote emergence of DJA Games and Alex Houston, Do
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you guys feel a little bit better about the depth
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: of that position.
• 31:51
  Speaker 13: Not really.
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: I feel pretty good about Alex Austen. Yeah, I feel
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: better about it. I think that's a legitimate option, you know.
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: I think he's played really well most of the the
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: camp practices and I thought he was excellent and that
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: red that last two minute drill to hurry up at
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: the end of the practice. He made two of the
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: four plays to keep.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: I think he's on this team, but I think he's good.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: What do you think the gap is between Gonzo and
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Carlton Davis and the rest of the room.
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: It's a good they say.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: It's a nice little drop between Austin and I mean,
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: I don't want to crap on him though, I mean,
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: Paul said he's had a really good camp.
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: He looks good.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: I would say after that, though, I don't. I don't
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: quite have that confidence into DJ James yet. He's a
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: little smaller guy. I mean he did. He did have
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: a nice play yesterday that I noticed, but I mean
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: that's look, that's gonna be your fifth cornerback.
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: So nobody's got no five guys that you feel Marcus Jones.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Marcus Jones in the slot, but Davis Gonzo and Alex Austin,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: what do you do side?
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: They're gonna play a ton of man coverage and like
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: if he's in the slot and he's covering like Pop
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Douglas types and you know those types of receivers every week, Hey,
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: with the other guys on the outside, Like I I mean,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: I think you do a lot worse. Like I'm not
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: saying that he's, you know, the best nickel in the league,
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: but I mean, I don't know. Like I thought yesterday,
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: like Bob Douglas made Sandra Still look like he wasn't
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: very good either. So like, I think it's a tough
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: position to play, Like you have your inside, you have
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: two way go all the time. The guy can it
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: really has a ton of freedom playing in the inside
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: part of the field. I think he's fine. Okay, I
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: know you guys don't.
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: That's okay, No, No, I was no.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: I was just gonna say there were a couple of
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: plays in seven on seven where you saw some of
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: the limitations with Marcus Jones height wise, and a couple
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: plays made over his head that you know in otherwise
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: a solid overall team performance, and you know, I.
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: Would just say, other than a couple guys, I have.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: Some questions about quite a few of the defensive holdovers
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: from last year.
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: The guys that are gonna play a lot.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: I would not Christian Gonzalez, not Christian Barmore, and maybe
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: not your bril Peppers. But after that, how are guys
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: going to fit in? Are they exactly what this coaching
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: staff is looking for even though they're on the roster
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: and it seems like they've got spots and they're gonna
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: play this year.
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: I have growing questions about some of those.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really that's a fair concern. And the
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Marcus Jones thing, like his matchups need to be managed,
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: like he's going to have to play certain types of receivers.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: If you're gonna put him up against the guy that
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: can go above the rim and make catches over his head,
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: then he's going to have some trouble. But if you
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: manage the type of receivers he's covering, he should be
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: all right. But a lot of people do, sir, on
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: this Kyle Duggar thing at this point, and what exactly
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: his future on this team even looks like I think
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: that that's like a badar was the first one, but
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: I feel like now everybody's kind of jumped onto this.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, you can see with Peppers that it seems
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: like they like him as a linebacker, you know, especially
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: in the sub packages, where it seems like he's probably
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: gonna play alongside Spelene a lot on third down and
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: really focus on that rather than you know, the old
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: defense there were so much spinning.
• 34:57
  Speaker 9: The dial of Peppers is up here, and now we
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: drop him back.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: It seems like they just want him to focus on
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: kind of playing in the box now. He said after
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: practice the other day he's been watching certain players from history.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: Who was the only one he named Bob Sanders, So like,
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: don't watch the pot where he gets hurt, because it
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: is in every other game. But I think that provides
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: a little bit of a window into what this coaching
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: staff sees in Jabrill Peppers and how they're going to
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: employ him. So I would put him outside of that range.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: It seems like they know what he can do and
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: they know how they want to use him. But some
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: of the other guys, I don't know.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know, justin a Brookline writes in I look
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: through a few Commanders media summaries on the joint practice
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: and was surprised to see they were pleased with the
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: play of their cornerbacks, given how well most of the
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: New England local media highlighted the solid performance of the
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Patriots receiver room you agree with this. They also seem
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: to think their tackles mostly Tunsil got the better of
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: our d line.
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: Was good, Tons was good.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Tunsell picked up key on White and tossed them once
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: and that was tun was good.
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: And I didn't think there the Washington cornerbacks were bad.
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: I thought most of it. I just thought that got
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: in that rhythm where you know, with pop, with some
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: crossers and stuff. But for the most there was one
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: red zone period that the Patriots I thought, really just
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: hammered Washington. And I guess that's one of those I mean,
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: I guess that's what all you're looking for for, you know,
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: for the Patriots offense. But I didn't think the I
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: didn't think early in the practice that the Patriots receivers
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: are making a lot of plays. But there wasn't a
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: period and I had it here. See this is why
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: I brought my notes. If back shoulder touchdown to Booty,
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: wheel route to Henderson wide open, dropped another touchdown, next
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: place slant to Henry for a touchdown. So there was
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: like a rhythm there that it was boom boom, boom,
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: and the Patriots I thought were dictating, But that was
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: like a very you know, again, the hurry up period
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: wasn't the same.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Anthony writes in we did win the practice, Paul, Yeah, Paul.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: I know, obviously it's just practice, but based on our
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: last four years of joint practices, this was a huge
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: step in the right direction. The reality is we were
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: a bottom four team last year and the Commanders were
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: a top four team. The fact that we gave them
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: all they could handle yesterday means to me that we won.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: So maybe it's semantics, but nonetheless we are back.
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: LFG. What do you think of Washington going forward this year? Yeah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: I think they're gonna take a step You don't think
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: they're very good.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: I think that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: I didn't say that, you said they're gonna take a
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: step back.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean I don't think they're very good, not
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: very good.
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: Not as good as last not as good as they
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: they had a record last year.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Right, you agree?
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: I absolutely agree. I didn't think they were that good
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: last year. I think they were the product one guy,
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: you gotta give him credit, throw five touchdown passes, go
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: ahead touchdown passes in the last thirty seconds. That's one
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: guy carrying you to win.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: He's still on the tag and he's.
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: Still there's not sustainable.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Well that's why I think they're not going to be
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: as good as last year. But I think they're gonna be.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Do you think they're not as good?
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: What do you think they're not going to be as
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: good because you think they're they're really good, just not
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: going to be the state Or do you think they're
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: not that good?
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: They got a little lightning in the bottle, but they're
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: they're a good team.
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: Got hot at the time, lockstep, Freddy lock step.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: But I don't think they're a bad team. They got lucky,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: and that's where I think we part way.
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, a five hundred team that was propped up by
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: a great quarterback.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: But will that great quarterback be able to prop up
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: mid Thank you man, I didn't even know I would be.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Excited if I was Washington about the wide receivers outside
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: of McLaurin. And I know that McLaurin comes back, and
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: everything all of a sudden looks like it's all hunky dory.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: But some other people got to catch the ball too.
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: We saw Cincinnati just had the guys magically come back
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: as the season started and didn't just all of a
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: sudden click right.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: But I mean, Daniels is awesome. I think their offensive
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: line is going to be pretty good, like Tunzels are
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: really good left tackle, but pass rush on defense too.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: I didn't, you know, really think much of some of
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: the guys that they were. You know, Doron Pain's a
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: good player. I guess if von Miller goes back in
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: the way back machine, like maybe maybe that could happen again.
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: I don't know, I'm strong. Yeah, I thought he was
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: pretty good. Yeah, I thought he got the better of
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: things on the use a couple of times.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: I definitely thought their roster talent though across the board,
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: would be like clearly better than the Patriots as a
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: team that didn't. That was in the final four last year,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: and I didn't feel that way. Now, if McLaurin was
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: out there, maybe all my feelings would have been different.
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: But oh, that's true, that is true.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: I'd say two on the offensive line point a lot
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: of the pressure. Harold Landry coming off the offensive right side,
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: the right tackle, I saw him get burned a lot.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: I don't know if it was always the same guy,
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: wasn't tracking that personnel, but I think it was their
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: left tackle, the rookie from last year that they moved
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: as a coleman.
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: Is that right to the right, Yeah, but it was
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: off the right side. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: I don't know who it was, but whoever, their right
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: tackle was as well as bar More on the right side,
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: so I felt that the right side of the line
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: was where a lot of pressure was coming in.
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I don't want to turn this into like we're killing
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: the Commanders, because like obviously they're I think they're they're good.
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: I just don't think they're as good as their record indicated.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: I don't think they have as much Andrew Wiley, I believe.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so he's like a veteran, like.
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, journeyman.
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: He was getting toasted a little bit. But the left
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: side was, you know, pretty stout. I mean, that's why
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: I'm mentioning Barmore and Landry who were coming off the
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: right side. Even a little Tonga coming up the middle.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: He was disruptive up there as well.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Randy's in Providence. Hey Randy, Randy, Hey guys, what's going Hey? Good?
• 40:16
  Speaker 15: So I was curious about number one, the Caydan Wallace
• 40:21
  Speaker 15: versus Cold Strange. It seemed like they were competing for
• 40:23
  Speaker 15: one spot. Just it's still seem that way and the
• 40:26
  Speaker 15: Patriots offense. I was perusing the Commander's podcasts and stuff
• 40:32
  Speaker 15: yesterday after to see their point of view, and they
• 40:35
  Speaker 15: felt like the Patriots offense really won.
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: I agree.
• 40:38
  Speaker 15: Do you think that the struggles we've seen are more
• 40:41
  Speaker 15: of a product of facing what could be a very
• 40:44
  Speaker 15: good defense in the Patriots defense?
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: No, that wasn't my takeaway. I not to like say
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: that the Patriots defense might not be very good, but
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: I just thought the Patriots offense, for the first time
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: in a while, I looked like it had a plan
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: and a rhythm of like how they were gonna attack
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: and how you know they're gonna get guys open, Like
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: they're running a lot of play action and you know
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: concepts that we've seen with McDaniels for years and years
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: with Gronk and the tight ends where some of those
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: catches that Hooper and Henry had. The guys are just
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: wide open. You know, there's nobody within ten yards of
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: Hooper on one of them.
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: So I think a lot of the stuff that the
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: Patriots were throwing at Washington defensively was just working.
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: And I think that that's a really good sign. But
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: I don't necessarily not that I don't think the Patriots
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: are gonna have a bad defense, but I guess I
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: just don't necessarily look at it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I would just caution that Randy, you know,
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: I think the Patriots offense was was good yesterday. I do,
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: and I think they were better than the Washington defense.
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: I thought, if you want to just break it down
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: that way, I would say that that they won the
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: Patriots offense, but I would also caution into I know,
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: what's joint practice. It is competitive, but it's it's not
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: the same as a real game because.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: The quarterback doesn't have to worry about getting hit.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: Well, there were also going to be sacks in that
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: both sides. Yeah, I think I think the Patriots would
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: have sacked Daniels and I know that the Commanders would
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: have sacked May on a couple of occasions. That changes
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: the whole outlook. You know, maybe the next play that
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: went for a touchdown is now third and twenty two,
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: do you know what I mean? Like, so that changes
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: the entire outlook of a play. Whereas everything is scripted
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: and they're running the play as this, you know, it's
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: already pretty de termined, like it's first down, place, second
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: down place, third down plays. It doesn't matter if the
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: previous play succeeded or failed. It's not impacting your play
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: call on the next play. As in a game, this
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: sequence is in sequencing involved.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just jump on that and say, I think
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: specifically Jayden and Daniels two is a player that you
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: can't get the true sense of.
• 42:45
  Speaker 9: Even in that situation where.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: He's so slippery, he's probably focusing on trying to stay
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: in the pocket, on trying because we know he's got
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: the jets, so what you know, you're not going to
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: learn anything from that. It's been more beneficial for him
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: to staying in the pocket. Same progressions, and you know.
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: When May scrambled all the times he scored it out
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: where it's like they're blowing the whistle like some of
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: those might have been good runts. Yeah, Like I look
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: at it both ways like plays.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: He had one early where I thought he got loose
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: and would have converted, but then you know, he was
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: flushed out of the pocket. So it's like it would
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: have it could have gone one of two ways. To
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Paul's point, it could have been a sack, or he
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: might have gotten out and he might have gotten the
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: yards on the scramble. But I just, uh, I was
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: encouraged by the timing and the rhythm of the ball
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: coming out. It wasn't like May was holding the ball
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: and running around back there and finding completions just off
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: of his talent, like they were running the offense, like
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: he was executing the McDaniel's offense, and the ball was
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: coming out quickly, especially early on in the practice, to
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: pop like pop absolutely dusted like three or four times.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: Sand was still at the beginning of practice, like really
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: beat him like clean off the line, and May found
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: him all all four times, you know, and just really
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: looked like, you know, you could envision like what it
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: was supposed to look like based off what we've seen
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: over the past decade of McDaniels, and then what it
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: looked like yesterday, and it was like, yeah, that you know,
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: Paul's Patriot plays like that was a pop over the middle.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: That was a Patriot play.
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: Totally agree.
• 44:18
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• 44:22
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• 46:32
  Speaker 8: How's going Drake's going on? All right?
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Kay Drake?
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: So your coach is in the pile. Your coach gets
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: a cut on his right. Yeah, what's that saying about him?
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: No?
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: I think, like I said, that's the that's what we're
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: trying to build, I think, And it starts with the coach.
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: Starts with the head coach. The intensity, bring it every day. Uh,
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: you'll take it, no crap, and you know we're right
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: there on the field. But also it comes to a
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: time where with our guys offensively and get over there
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: and get some muscles and kind of have some penalties
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: and extra after the whistle could get us in trouble.
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: But for mentality, I like it. I think that's what
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: you want. I mean I almost got in there, but
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: I think maybe another day maybe, so we'll see what happened.
• 47:07
  Speaker 15: I mean, the idea what started seemed like Trevian Henderson
• 47:10
  Speaker 15: might have been in Past Protector.
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Pastport. I think it's physical. It's a
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: physical game. You know, it's a it's a man's game,
• 47:15
  Speaker 8: and things happen out there. I'm not sure if anything
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: on this field happened. But I think there's a time
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: where obviously you don't want to come out here and
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: and fight and get into trouble, but at the same
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: time you want you want to back down for nobody.
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: So I'm sure your coach will get the mind get
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: kind of preacher, can't have that, but at the same time,
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: kind of in the back of our minds. So that's
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: kind of how we want to play the intensity and
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: kind of when the whistle's going to play hard, the
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: whistle stops, you'll get off and get away.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: What did you like about what you guys were able
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: to do today offensively? And I just felt like you
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: guys were in a pretty good rhythm to start.
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought it moves well. You know, it's good
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: you'll play against another team. You're having all our guys
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: out there and kind of get in the rhythm, you know,
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: build some plays together and move the ball. I thought
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: we this good thing offensively, and wish we would have
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: ended it better, you know, tipball down there, but hey,
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: what happens. That's football and that's why you practice those
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: But uh, overalls powered up front. The guys up front,
• 48:07
  Speaker 8: they battled hard, so I'm looking forward to uh getting things,
• 48:11
  Speaker 8: you know, going as to getting in Minnesota and Friday night.
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: So I'm sorry jumped in really quick there.
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: How quickly do you feel like you're building.
• 48:17
  Speaker 17: Your chemistry with mac Hollins considering how much time he
• 48:21
  Speaker 17: missed in me?
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, otarios, the chemistry's already there, so it
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: don't even matter. So Greg with me tippaul was it
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: an eyes thing or just kind of a bangy goold
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: play for Bobby? I think I could have. I think
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: I could have, you know, looked him a different way
• 48:34
  Speaker 8: and he barely got hid out. I tried to throw
• 48:37
  Speaker 8: it with some speed down there in the red zone
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: and hopefully not have tip balls, but a good play
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: by him. Unfortunate, but I play. I think reading Ie.
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: Pick, do you look forward to playing in a preseason game?
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think pres is a time to go out
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: there and get the jitters and you know, real life
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: when i'm live, you know, it's different from me being
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: able to get tackled and get hit. So it's good
• 48:53
  Speaker 8: to go out there and you'll kind of feel like
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: live bulls are flying around and kind of not have that,
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: you know. The first you know, snap of the season.
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: Did you have peter anticipation coming out here today?
• 49:03
  Speaker 13: Cool?
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: Anytime, any practice, any team period, really, you know, you know,
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: you get kind of the the jitters of you know,
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: want to do things right and make good plays, and
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: at the same time it kind of bounces out with
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: with the confidence myself and the conference of the guys
• 49:15
  Speaker 8: around me. So that's what you know, it's mixing sports special.
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: Do you feel like you're leaving the field today and saying, Hi,
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: that went fine. Yeah, it looked like some football out there.
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: It's a different team and you know felt good to
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: kind of get our operation done against somebody else and
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: we just have know, huddled. I thought we went well,
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: so it was good for us to you know, learn
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: from it, watch it and kind of build off it.
• 49:35
  Speaker 18: You know what you've been doing with Josh has been
• 49:38
  Speaker 18: teaching the new offense and kind of see it against
• 49:41
  Speaker 18: another team.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that kind of positive affirmation.
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: Team as you think positive when you're moving the ball
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: and I feel like you has some good players, it's
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: positive and you'll come out here not like you you
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: didn't execut and didn't move the ball well, So it's
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: always positive.
• 49:54
  Speaker 19: You and Gene obviously same draft class, only one pick separate.
• 49:57
  Speaker 19: Teach you guys, you're probably gonna be compared for the
• 50:00
  Speaker 19: large part of your career. So how much do you
• 50:03
  Speaker 19: put on yourself to sort of keep pace with him
• 50:06
  Speaker 19: and everything he's doing.
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: Obviously had a greatyear. I saw him out there. Yeah,
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: congratulated him. What a what a what a year he had. Yeah,
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: I think there's a there's always in the back of
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: your mind, you know, the draft class came in with,
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: and anytime you play him especially, it's a little different.
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: But yeah, like you said, I think, uh, I'm just
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: trying to worry about myself. But at the end of
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: the day, keep up those guys. Those guys are you know,
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: him and Caleb and Bo those guys are good, good
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: friends of mine and uh, you know, friends until we
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: play each other.
• 50:29
  Speaker 9: So much approach to pass brow.
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he takes a real Yeah, I think
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: you saw it in college. I think it speaks for itself.
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: And I think coming here in the NFL, when you've
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: got you know, Bobby Wager coming into the a gap,
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: it's a little different, and uh, I got full confidence
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: in him.
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: You have to complete booty contested in the end, zone.
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: How much confidence do you have in Kashawan when you're
• 50:49
  Speaker 8: throwing SOA keep saying you do the right thing, keep
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: doing it over and over, and you you know, willing
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: to block in the run game, and I can trust you.
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: You know you're gonna be out there, and I think
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: you know, there's a bunch of guys that are making
• 50:59
  Speaker 8: things like that happen. Pops through a great job and
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: different guys in the room. So it's comforting knowing that
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: you're gonna be in the right spot. And it's my
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: job to give him a chance like having stuff out
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: there for some Yeah, it's good to get him in
• 51:10
  Speaker 8: there at the end, you know. I think anytime he
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: you know, he kind of get him in in the lineup,
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: it adds a different kind of swagger in the huddle
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: with Cup Douglass in this offense to what you can do.
• 51:22
  Speaker 13: Pop.
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: I think he's tough to guard. Like I said, I
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: think you see it in on little crossing routes and
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: a little quick moves when he's meeting a defender, you know,
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: face to face. So I think kind of all year
• 51:33
  Speaker 8: it's gonna be my our job to try to get
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: him opening space and let him run the football.
• 51:37
  Speaker 16: Did today Grin seeing a different team, what's that process
• 51:40
  Speaker 16: about the growth of vir offensive line?
• 51:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, shoot, those guys are battling. You'll credit those guys.
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: We got, you know, some rookies in there. We got
• 51:46
  Speaker 8: some you know, veteran Garrett and Big Mo's coming back,
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: So you'll credit those guys. Big Mic, I mean, good
• 51:52
  Speaker 8: Gosh shows up every day, he doesn't complain, always in
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: a good mood. And I think you just credit those
• 51:58
  Speaker 8: guys for starting to build, kind of build up front,
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: and we got some guys coming in there that are
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: kind of earning a role and kind of being the
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: guys that dressed on game day.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Drake, did you happen to see Rabel bleeding?
• 52:08
  Speaker 19: Yeah?
• 52:08
  Speaker 8: I saw, yeah. Somehow say it was like, uh the
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: trump gunshot he wounds, So I was laughing at that.
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: But uh no, I think you saw what he's breaking
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: down the huddle and I'm not even sure what happened
• 52:20
  Speaker 8: when it happened, but uh, you know, he said, don't
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: worry about We'll see it on film, so we'll see.
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: Can break it down, break down drag.
• 52:27
  Speaker 19: It seems like you've done a really good job avoiding
• 52:28
  Speaker 19: bad looks as a passer this season. I'm wondering how
• 52:30
  Speaker 19: much of that is just your own maturation and how
• 52:32
  Speaker 19: much of that is working with Josh M.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: David.
• 52:34
  Speaker 8: I think it's built within the offense. But also at
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: the same time, we always talk abound the court that room,
• 52:37
  Speaker 8: you know, do we have a good play or do
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: we have a bad look? And there's some times out
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: there where I thought we had a bad look and
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: I'm just trying to get to a better play.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: You're a U n C guy, but Jason Tatum, Yeah,
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: I know, but you don't usually see those guys around
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: here too much.
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: But was it like to yeah, shoot you no, you know,
• 52:52
  Speaker 8: he's a he's a duke guy. But see what he's
• 52:54
  Speaker 8: done for Boston And uh, obviously I told him what
• 52:57
  Speaker 8: a heartbreak, what happened with him. I'm looking forward to
• 52:58
  Speaker 8: seeing him come back. And Uh, it's funny story. My
• 53:02
  Speaker 8: brother's here, my old bar Louke. His first start was
• 53:05
  Speaker 8: in Cameron against uh Duke and he was guarding Jason
• 53:08
  Speaker 8: his first art, so it was pretty cool. Do you
• 53:09
  Speaker 8: still compare yourself to Jason as a basketball player? Who
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: said that Kie? I said it'd be way off rand.
• 53:14
  Speaker 8: But he's got probably way bigger bag than I do.
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: So no, but sweet thing you.
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: Guys, and now great moments in history.
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: Would you rather totally give up kissing for the rest
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: of your life or give up sauces?
• 53:32
  Speaker 20: What?
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Kissing or saucy?
• 53:33
  Speaker 9: Now that's good? What are the merry guys in their films?
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: I'm going kisses there, bro, I love you, love me
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: some sauces, the sweet and sour buffalo barbecue.
• 53:51
  Speaker 9: Honey, you can't, you can't give up on kissing.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: Just yeah, I played the fi. There's no good answer
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: for me there because she she cooks it and partakes
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: in both things. So it's like, which one do I say,
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: either in salt or cooking or one.
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: Buffalo sauces? Good stuff.
• 54:09
  Speaker 8: That's another great moment.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: All right back here and Patriots on FILD today, five
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: five pasts five hundred is the Hotline podcast at Patriots
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: dot com. Is the email address. We're talking about the
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: joint practice. We're also gonna talk a little bit about
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: what we might see tomorrow in the preseason game, as
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: well as the Brady Statue one veiling live at six
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: o'clock on Patriots dot Com. We also yesterday's practice. Jason
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: Tatum showed up but no boot.
• 54:42
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I was.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: I'm just standing there, you know, in the media area
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: down by the rope there, and all of a sudden,
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: this you know, tall guy. It's like, that's Jason Tatum.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: I have to admit I was a little bit starstruck.
• 54:55
  Speaker 14: You know.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: You know he's tall and.
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: Tall.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: You let me finish my sentence. Then you see Tatum
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: standing next.
• 55:07
  Speaker 10: To an offensive lineman or like a massive behemoth of
• 55:12
  Speaker 10: a d tackle, and You're like, Tatum is really effing tall.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: And I think basketball players are sneakly the biggest athletes
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: because they're so tall and but they are also still fit,
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: like you know, and even like like Giannis is like
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: six eleven, you know, like and just thinking about that,
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: even next to an offensive lineman like tower over the
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: offensive line. So yeah, he was there, no boot.
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: I looked, no.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: Boot, No, And he was on his feet for like
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: he stood the whole practice.
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: He wasn't pretty good.
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he was walking slowly, but his swagger, I am,
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: that's definitely on. That's not out of the realm, like
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: I was. I think it's I think it's six weeks.
• 55:55
  Speaker 7: You're supposed to be in the boot. So he's well
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: beyond six weeks. Yeah, he had like this new surgery.
• 56:03
  Speaker 7: I know it's going to have him back before this starts.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: Can you let me have some hope, Paul for two seconds.
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: But so he had the surgery immediately, like within twenty
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: four hours, and then he had this new I think
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: it's called the speed bridge. It's like this new procedure
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: of how they you guys know me well enough to
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: know that I am now an expert on Achilles cover Like,
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: let's be honest. He had the speed Bridge procedure with
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: the best doctor in the world who performs this surgery
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: in New York City. But say we're playing in New
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: York when it happened.
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: So that's why you only had the surgery that night.
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: Can you can you let me that's a fact. He
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: had the surgery that night.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: Okay, but let's just let's get past all the surgery nonsense.
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: In theory, February is nine months removed from Achilles surgery,
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: So the playoffs start in April.
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: I don't want him anywhere near the court. You're crazy
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: for the twenty five crazy Sason.
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: No, I'm not, Yes, you are.
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: There's the reason.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: The other teams already noticed.
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: This is the reason why the other teams have already
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: ruled those guys out.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: Well, Tyres Haliburton's injury happened six months, a.
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: Month later, and the other guy, why can I not
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: think of Damian Lillard has been a month earlier older, right,
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: because it's not a smart thing to do. If I
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: were the Celtics, that's my most valuable commodity. Rest be
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: ready and what are we gonna do. Let's go for
• 57:38
  Speaker 7: twenty six, twenty seven. You're championship contender immediately as soon
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: as he comes back healthy.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: You're you're right, You're you're the rational one here, and
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: you're correct. That being said, what I is that, like,
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: what I worry about is the window in windows.
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: Clo Patrick Mahomes. As long as you got Jason Tatum,
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: your window is why secondighbor.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: It's just all I don't want to.
• 58:00
  Speaker 10: I kind of agree with because not to go Celtics unfieldered,
• 58:04
  Speaker 10: but like, just you're right, there's a window, and it's like, Okay,
• 58:09
  Speaker 10: this year will just be a wash and we'll be
• 58:10
  Speaker 10: ready for next year. But that's God willing that Jalen
• 58:14
  Speaker 10: Brown doesn't have a bad injury.
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: This or or they can.
• 58:20
  Speaker 10: And I really think like this Tatum injury was like
• 58:22
  Speaker 10: a godsend for this new owner. It gave them like
• 58:25
  Speaker 10: the easy out to not pay.
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: If they can get rid of all those guys, I'd
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: be on board with.
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: The play right.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: They've already said.
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: Top nine returning players, So why rush one of those
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: five guys back for what to play with?
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: Exactly because he's good enough to carry them to a championship,
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: but not if he's on is not coming back, Like
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: still genuinely cares deeply about that team. Throwing away an
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: entire year of Tatum's prime is a really tough bill,
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: but they're not tom.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: It Away basically got hurt. I have to start dealing with.
• 59:03
  Speaker 7: That, right, young man. This is like, young man, Like
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: I talked to my son. At some point, you have
• 59:09
  Speaker 7: to address the possibility that it might not work out
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: the way you want it to, and you have to
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: deal with that.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: You have to believe that even if he's back for
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: the playoffs, he's missed the whole season.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: I'm not back. I'm not I'm not prepared for it.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: But like, but that's really good. Yesterday he was on
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: his feet all day.
• 59:26
  Speaker 14: It was cool.
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: To see him.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: It was cool to see him.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: Brady blew out his knee like he could come back.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: He walked to the locker room. He's okay.
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: Oh, God, like the Pageack thing the eight season away,
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: like the quarterback got hurt and they were no longer
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: a title contender. Like I said that happened.
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: When me and Evan were going on the field before
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: the instadium practice to get the crowd hyped up, we
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: walked by those stairs and I said to Evan, I'm like,
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: all I think about with these stairs is watching Brady
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: like slowly go down them in two thousand and eight,
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: and then Evan too well in Mac Jones two, So I.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: Was part of Wow, Mac didn't go on his own.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: No, I just remember watching Brady to going outstairs, and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: I'm like, season is what it looks like.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: I would have traded Brown and Tatum in a first
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: round pick to Dallas for Cooper Flag.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: Oh, I'm very glad you're not so, am I You
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: wouldn't do that, God, No, I would.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: The thing that I would solve, all the Celtics would
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: be able to restart financially and build build around.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: They wouldn't be that good what they wouldn't be that good.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: They wouldn't be that good for a while, but they
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: would rebuild.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: But why do you want to do that? You're already great.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 9: Well he's always looking at red hour back.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking at twenty seven years old New England kid.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: This isn't exactly like Pearson KG at the end.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: So I was expecting everyone to say, I was expecting
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: every why would Dallas do that?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: I'm surprised I would Dallas? Do you why would Dallas
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: do that so they could win a title?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: No, I'm surprised.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 9: I thought you all NBA.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: I thought I thought you would say, no way would
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: they trade Cooper Flag for that? But I'm surprised to
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: hear that you think they would.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: It would be for Tatum and Brown and Brown They'd
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: be negligent to not make that trade for a guy
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: who has You have no idea.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: You're not gonna have Tatum this year, and you don't
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: know how you have him next year. I know you
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: hope and you hope they'll be the same.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: Evan's got him back in February. Now you don't even
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: have him back next year. In the world, I mean,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: if you have that bridge surgery speed speed Queen Speed
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: Queen speed Bridge.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: Put him in the Speed Queen washer.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: That's that's how I remember what it's called is because
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: I Speed Queen speed Bridge.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: Right, But they's so Paul South Jersey.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: If he if we go with Paul's route and they do,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: they don't get Tatum back, which they probably won't them
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: Like quiet tanking is probably the best thing to do
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: because with the way that the second apron works in
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: the salary structure, like having the third star be on
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: a rookie contract is probably the smoothest way to keep
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: this thing rolling. So like if they if they're not
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: going to get Tatum for the year, then they should
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: probably purposely try these games.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 7: That's just the reality, is how it's kind of that's
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: why everybody's no longer on the rush. How did they
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: get the len Bias pick Gerald Henderson?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was back before like the rest of the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: league realized.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: They traded Gerald Henderson for a first round pick, and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 7: then that team was and they ended up being the
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 7: number two pick in the draft.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: That was before teams realized like how valuable drafts were,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: and like Red hour back was really ahead of the times.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: And what happened after should they get like you just
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: have to. That's it, like no compass, Like, no they didn't,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: you didn't.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: And I hate to be like next Day and making
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: fun of I always make fun of evan screen team
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 7: or habits, but I'm a Green team or too at heart.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: And I will tell you that that whole bridge that
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: was there, it was Len Bias and Reggie Lewis. Yeah,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: they would have continued to be a title contender throughout
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: the early nineties and into the mid nineties had those
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 7: two guys not died. Now, I know that's a Green teamer,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: you know, point of view? True though, Yeah, definitely seen.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 7: Reggie was an all star.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine living.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 7: And they just lost two potential stars.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you know, ruined tragically.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: Yemmy in Texas Rights in can I can.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: I just read this email without knowing what it says. Yeah,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 7: we'll just being Washington in a joint practice. And you
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 7: guys are talking about the Celtics, don't this is Patriots
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: on filter? No, No, those haven't the defense.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: Those haven't come yet, Bias, those will be here contribution.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: But Yemmy in Texas Rights in Greg Madard says Mike
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: rabel Is running the lightest training camp he's seen in
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: twenty years. What's your perspective on this.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: I don't see it that way. I think camp has
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: been fine, been very similar to what I've been seeing
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: for the last ten years.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's I mean I had less experience.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: I mean last year there was some practices with Yeah.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: I think the practices were longer last year because it
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 7: took too long to get them going. I made comments
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 7: about that last year all the time.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: And then they would like run hills at the end.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought Monday was pretty tough. Monday was a.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: Long I think the practices have been fine. They've had
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 7: a couple of walkthroughs that we have access to, and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: sometimes in the Belichick era, we didn't have access to walkthroughs.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: Now we have to go to all of them. Thanks Obama, Evan,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: you'll be You'll be happy to know that.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: Chris and Santa Fe writes in says, I got the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: speed bridge procedure last year, and now I trust my
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: fixed side more than the other side. Hold on to that, hope, Evan.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: Post All Star break Baby, Jason Tatum's coming back into stuff.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: He said he it was back at work at my desk,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: job the next week.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 7: I know what he's talking about the ball I missed
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: like two days, Like, it's not that's not like at
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: desk job is it's nothing impressive about that still makes
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: fun of me for walking into my crutches, But I
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: I totally understand that mentality of I trust the fixed
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: side better than the other side, because I definitely do.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: I feel like the other one is going to go
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: any minutes right every time I feel is that hard
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: to walk on it for a while? Is that the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: two and a half weeks that I walked on him
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: without knowing?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: Well after you got fixed, Like for Tatum and them
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: saying he stood out there to practice all day.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 7: Like, yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't an issue. Like it's
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: running stop. Once the boot comes off, you feel like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 7: you're completely free, you know, and you can just you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: gotta be careful.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: You can't like jump, yeah, you know that's ball is
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: jumping and lunching.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah in the Lateral movie mints of pivoting.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: Plus, we all also have to take into consideration this
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: is an elite athlete. It's a little different than you
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: know what I mean.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: You sage my point.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: When everybody's like he's not coming back. I'm like, we're
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: talking about Jason freaking.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying. I'm not saying he can't come back,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: like it's impossible. I'm saying I don't want him to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 7: come back.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: Worth it.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: It's not worth it to me.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: It is worth it.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: You're selfish, Yes about him?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: The fans, Yes, it's all about you. Good fans recognize
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 7: what they're doing and they're gonna anyway.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: Was that practice didn't know.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 7: Was there?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: It was a big star study.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Danny Amidola, the Twins.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: I really expected the Helpopter to be coming down.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 7: Chung and left. I saw it leaving.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: I thought I thought JB. John bon Jovi would have
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 9: stuck with Bill. I thought that was a Bill guy.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 9: But I guess he's like you likes them, Boat.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 7: Don't get the chores, You don't make me choose.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna hang out with him tonight.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Is that okay?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: He's got the house in the ham right, It's nice
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: to have seen it.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: Forty eight million dollars.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 10: Freakin' that's the that strip of real estate in Southampton.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 10: Oh yeah, there's levels to wealth, you know, and like
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 10: I want to be rich one day. I fully think
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 10: I will be not like that.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: Will you remember us?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 10: Well, the first thing I do when I make it
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 10: big is I'm going to buy a boat. I'm going
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 10: to redo my mom's kitchen, and I'm buying paul.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: A camera.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get in trouble with Kenny Yea,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: buy you a nice midsize sedan.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: Purpose.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: Let's see Thordor right sid he's from Iceland.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 20: Uh.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: I'm curious because yesterday in the review episode for the
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: joint practice with the Commanders, you talked about how the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: interception from May was the last thing you saw and
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: how it affected how you looked at his practice. If
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: May had thrown that interception earlier in practice rather than
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: at the end, would you have looked at it differently.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 9: It depends on the period.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, for me, it was all about this is
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: the competitive period of practice. So if it was the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: you know, all right, here's the situation.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 9: It's all on the table.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: Paul mentioned earlier, the earlier eleven on eleven periods are
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: like this is first and ten, this is going to
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: be second and short.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 9: It's all controlled. So this was the third practice in
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 9: a row at.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: The end in the competitive portion where you know he
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: wasn't quite able to get him over the hump. But
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, I said specifically in the show, and I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: wanted this to make this out to color his whole practice,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: but I can't keep every time we come in here
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: talk about I'm waiting for Drake.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 9: Is Drake killer or not? And then we see three
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 9: straight competitive periods and he hasn't really been a killer yet.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 9: You know, That's that's part of the story to me
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 9: so far.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: Chris wants to clarify that he works at a standing yeah,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: oh oh, flex sniff his desk job as a standing job, right, I'm.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 7: Just saying that as a standing once you have the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: surgery and you're in a boot for a little bit,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 7: then you're you're okay. You just got to before you can,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: you know, play NBA basketball.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: I just wonder on that pick, like sometimes I feel
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: like Drake gets like really excited when somebody gets open,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: like for a touchdown, and he's like, oh, he's open,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: and then he just like throws it. And you know
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: guys that are like veteran players like Bobby Wagner who
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: are smart enough to read quarterback's eyes. He just took
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: him right to the party, you know. And that's what
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: he said after the practice was, you.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 7: Know, I welcome to the party.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: You got to move him with with my eyes or
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: hold him in the middle of the field for a
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: beat or something like that. Yeah, he just like immediately
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: saw a pop flash open and just took Bobby Wagner
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: right to it.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 7: And I also give Wagner some credit. I don't think
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 7: that just any linebacker makes that play.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's pretty good.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: You know me.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 9: Again, I'm probably annoying some fans with this take, and
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 9: you know, the people who want Drake to be.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 7: Well, But I know what you're It didn't necessarily tank
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: my view of the offenses before Woman's yesterday and Drake's
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 7: in particular, But I understand what you're talking about. You're
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 7: looking to see him succeed in one of those series now,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: if it makes you feel any better. The Patriots defense
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 7: did the same thing. They allowed a couple of completions
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 7: to let them get goal to go, and then they
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: shut them down.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: I was saying to when we came down to that
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: fourth fourth down play, I'm like, just get a stop here.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: I can't deal with like they had a really good
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: practice all around, But then the only narrative is.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 9: Going to be, well, Drake threw an interception, in jan
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 9: Daniels threw a touchdown.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 7: It did really put a lot of stock on those
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: last My brain was working those last forty five second
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: drives from the twenty five yard line.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 9: There's only two of them.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: But he's not wrong to think the way that those
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: were important.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 7: I do think those drives were important. They did do
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 7: down in distance, The clock was a factor. There was
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 7: a little bit more at stakes with Mike.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: Tune in next week when Evan and I are in
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: Minnesota and they're going to do that same kind of
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: competitive portion to end the period, and I'll.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: Be you know what happened when they looks like this
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: dog just died, And that's probably you know, I think
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 7: we did.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: Enough because like this is like this is this has
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: been his most since North Carolina. Yeah, is like you
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: can bottle up his throws and put them up against
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: any quarterback in the country or any quarterback in the NFL,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: and he throws some of the prettiest balls of anybody.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: But then when it came down to like, well did
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: they win the game, it was like no, they like
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: he made five of the best throws you've ever seen
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: against MC State, but they they lost by two touchdowns
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: and you're just like, wait, what, Like how do those
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: two things go inside? And like when you watch like
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: the all twenty two in his college, like you're not
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: really paying attention to the score. You're just like watching him,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: and like all of a sudden, the scoreboard will flash
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: and they'll be down by like two touchdowns, and you're like,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: but I think he's played awesome, Like what do you mean?
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, is it a little bit opposite of Tom Brady?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: And I don't remember what Tom Brady was like coming out.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: I knew that he had won big games, right and
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: that that was part of the positive on his scouting
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 6: report was that and the big games, this kid plays
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: pretty well well. I just wonder how much of a
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: part of the Scott and report that should always be,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: Like was Patrick Mahomes like that? Because Patrick Mahomes in
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: the NFL right now is a killer and you know
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: that you're gonna have to Texas.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: He had really got his stats because he played in
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: that air raid with Clint Kingsbury, and but like they
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: didn't win very many games. That was like the knock
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: on him coming out is that they didn't win, Like
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: he threw for five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns. But
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: then that's it, and.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: That's me is all the psychology of like this year
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: with Drake May how do you get to that point?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: How do you get these guys? I mean, Josh Allen's
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: pretty much there too. I'd you know, say Burrows probably
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 6: often in that category. But that's what goes from like
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: the guys like Justin Herbert, who have all the talent
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: in the world but haven't really won anything yet, to
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: the guys who even if they have some warts in
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 6: their game like Josh Allen did, but worked on them
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: and now you know that he's going to be a
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: pain in the ass right down till the clock hit zero.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 6: That's you know, And that's where you got to get
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: Drake if he's really going to be the guy and
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: not just you know, the brock perties of the world
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: where yeah, they got the stats, but like when it
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: ultimately comes down to the big games, are they going
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: to win the titles?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 9: That's what matters.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 7: We talk about this a lot too, And I was
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 7: teasing Fred about what he thought about Washington because that's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 7: the fact of the matter, in that league, there's very
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: little to determine the difference between say seventh eighth best
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 7: team and like the sixteenth or seventeenth best team, they're
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 7: very similar. It's what do you do in the in
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 7: the seven or eight games that are going to be
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 7: decided by one score? How do you win them? And
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: the teams that generally do really well find you know,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 7: Minnesota's excelled at that the last few years, is that
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 7: because of Kevin O'Connell. Is he just really really good
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 7: with the you know, and being able to win those
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: games at the end. The Patriots haven't been able to
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 7: do that. They didn't they couldn't do it with Mac
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 7: Jones and you know last year, small sample, he's just
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 7: getting started, but they didn't. They weren't able to win
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 7: any of those one scored games at the end with
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 7: Drake May. And if that doesn't change, it's hard because
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 7: it's hard to just win every game going away. We
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: saw that with Mac Jones that was the only way
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 7: they could win is jumping out in front, getting the
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 7: lead and then playing on their terms.
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  Speaker 4: The vast majority of games in the NFL decided by
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: less than eight points.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: Right and I wonder how much of that is a
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: skill that is developed, because I think, maybe wrongly, we
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: look at it.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 9: As something that's innate. Being clutch is just kind of innate.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: But you know, even Brady, I mean, he was kind
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: of innate with it, right, How many of those one
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 6: possession games when they didn't look like they had it
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: that day, it didn't really seem like the Patriots were
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: going to win the game, and then all of a
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: sudden he puts a couple drives together in the last
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: five minutes and you know it was his third start.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 7: Was the game against San Diego that he came from
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 7: ten behind in the last two minutes. Yeah, you know,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 7: and they ended up winning an overtime.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the we brought up Herbert, And I think
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: Herbert right now is probably the leader of the pack
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: of this category.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 7: He's Drake May on steroids, right.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: Like Herbert, Trevor Lawrence, like those guys that when you
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: watch them play, they are clearly franchise quarterbacks just by
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: the eye tech, but then you look at the results
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: and it's like, but they don't they don't really win.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: And like Herbert's made the playoffs, Herbert's bring good yeah, but.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: Not great, right, and they have like you know, the
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: five thousand you know, the five hundred yard passing game,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: like it's great, but right, are you consistent that.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: Game in Houston in the playoffs last year for Herbert
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: Now they had played, they had a pretty good year.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 7: I thought they were a better team than Houston, even
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 7: though they're on the road, because Houston's a division winner. Yeah,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 7: all of a sudden, it's a flurry of mistakes. It
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 7: throws a couple of picks and the game's out of
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 7: hand and they loose.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought you already always had somebody with you.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 7: Last year we had Brian Hoyer. But Hoyer is on
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 7: the sideline this year. Okay, so that was a one
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 7: time thing because of Drake May.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: Okay, so they're not replacing him in the studio.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 7: No, Normally it's just me in the studio. So last
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 7: year we had Brian, didn't do it because we wanted
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 7: him to break down Drake May's offense on the telestrator.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: M the pulls in the studio in the game, like
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: maybe they'll come to me. They didn't come to maybe
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  Speaker 4: they'll coin't.
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  Speaker 9: I'm excited to experience.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 7: That's kind of that's kind of the way it goes.
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  Speaker 7: I'm ready and everybody. You got anything to Yeah, I'm
• 1:17:15
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• 1:17:21
  Speaker 6: I thought you were just there to sell couches, like
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: I thought you just they cut to you and you're
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: just supposed to be lounging around looking comfortable and be like, I,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: you know, know what's going on the game.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: Guys, but I'm really coming kind of feeling we don't really,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: But they were like, hey.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 9: Look there's Paul you know, to pop up on the TV.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 9: We can't hear you, so we assume you're saying nice things.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I thought maybe you're just you know, giving
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: a sales pitch about the automan No, I don't.
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  Speaker 7: I don't sell any merch.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: It's like, you know Fred's style transitions where you're like,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: you know, Patriots seemed like they were kicking their feet
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: back on that drive and you know that automate and
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 6: Bosses Camp furniture.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: That's you're ready, You're ready.
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  Speaker 5: I think there was it Pat McAfee that that like
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: like my accident. Yeah, it was like this is the
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: most Boston guy.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 7: He likes my accent, freaking punter.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: His accent comes from uh bro, it's a bro accident.
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  Speaker 4: Uh let's go to Florida where Kingston is on the line.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: Hello Kingston, Kingston, the crank it up, Matt from Georgia,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: Ford from Savannah. I had Kingston from Florida. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how that happened, but hello Ford.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: I'm fourteen and on the first time following and ever
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: since he guys showed my uncle pictures, he's never stopped
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: wearing a back cat.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: Okay? Is that it all right? Keep going?
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 20: Besides what should I get?
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  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 9: Get it digs?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 7: What Jersey?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: Besides Drake may and get a will cam. You'll you'll
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: listen to that off the air?
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 9: What would you say with the first one of the
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 9: backwards had?
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 7: Who is that?
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: I think he's had his uncle ever since.
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  Speaker 9: We said he's throwing out the vibe. We needed a
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 9: ruling from you yesterday, Alex.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: Though yesterday because Dan Campbell's fond of the fitted hat backwards,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: do we get a ruling on that the fitted hat
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: versus like the mesh snap.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 10: Back It was fitted flat brim or flat brim snap
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 10: back flat room snapbacks, flat room snap back.
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  Speaker 3: Backward, flat brim fitted. I don't think you should wear backwards?
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  Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah, all right, Well to me, the brim doesn't
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: matter if you're gonna wear it backwards like I don't.
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  Speaker 3: The brim doesn't matter.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 10: But a fitted hat tends to have like more of
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 10: a flat brim, and there's not the little people right.
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  Speaker 2: Like.
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  Speaker 4: A fitted hat backwards to me is even worse. Yeah,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: that looks it looks like you're wearing a beanie.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: That doesn't look good.
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  Speaker 10: But if it's the flat brim snap back or a
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 10: standard baseball like dad hat like you're forty seven, yeah,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 10: those are good backwards.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: So the flat room snap back is that's the.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: New thing right now, and it's not flattering on the face.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 5: I'm a big pad guy.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 9: We gotta TELLQ that's what they call dan Quinn.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 7: That's yeah, that's good. Friends.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: The Red Sox Green Monster version flat room snapback is
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: sold out, like you can't. I got one at the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: ground floor, so we're fine.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 9: But it's that's pretty cool.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: Also, I don't like flat hom hats.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: I don't like flat brims.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: I think they look goofy.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: I don't like some people, but a lot of people
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: pull them off. I'm not one of those people.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 7: I've never seen anyone I thought looked good in it.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 7: But I'm too old for it. It's a young it's
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: a young man's game.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: Freddy just just skateboard somewhere else.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 7: We're just living in it.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: Dominiques in New York. What's up, Dominique?
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  Speaker 8: Hey?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Hey?
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  Speaker 13: Recoverage on everything from saying campus and love them to recap.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 13: I gotta make a mission I actually may like, especially
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 13: with a wide receiver room. I was so concerned about
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 13: want of certain players just to make it. Whether it's
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 13: like Jays and Polk kind of redeeming and so Jason
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 13: Baker only because they were, you know, our draft picks
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 13: from last year. But it's kind of nice seeing you
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 13: though it's only two weeks. About right, people steps, enough
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 13: kitson boogie, you see back home, coming back and doing well.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 13: Just about of these folks just like you know, making plays.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 13: So I care less about really who makes it, just
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 13: who's the best for the team. Obviously that's the whole
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 13: point of this thing. But I was getting in my
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 13: head about this guy needs to make it or fix
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 13: closest pickures, just pick the best f the step and
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 13: that really gets kicking made and the offensive and opportunity
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 13: to elevate. Those were really nice seeing that. So my
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  Speaker 13: fortune is if you had to hole, uh six receivers
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 13: versus steven, what would you do based on you what
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 13: you've seen? If you do hold step in what one
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 13: position are you like cutting something like this, defensive line,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 13: offensive line, whatever it may be?
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  Speaker 4: All right, thanks Domini.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, uh, I think we've all I don't want to
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: speak for everybody, but I feel like everybody I've talked
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: to is kind of settled on the five receivers of Diggs, Douglas, Booty, Hollins,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: Kyle Williams, as like that group is going to be here,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: and then it's just the floater of like are they
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: going to keep a sixth guy? Are they not going
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: to keep a sixth guy?
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: I think seven is like pretty I would keep five
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: unrealistic five that you just mentioned right, like that is
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: the five that's that are here. I think pretty safely.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: The question is is do you want to carry a
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: sixth receiver out of some of the young guys, like
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: one of the second year guys or Efton Chisholm, or
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: just a developmental player as the sixth guy that you're
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: not your little concern isn't going to make it through
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: waivers and get to the practice squad. So you put
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: Javon Baker on the roster, you know, just the you know,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: maintain in control over him.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 9: I wonder about that with Polk and Baker. Is you know,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 9: Baker lower round draft pick.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: I think Paul you said maybe show like maybe there's
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 6: still somebody out there with Polk is the second round pick.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 9: If he were to get you know, he'd probably be
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 9: tough to get him through.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: But nothing I've seen out of those two guys so
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: far has made me say in camp that they have
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: to keep these guys around.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 9: I was curious, though, what did you guys think?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 6: Because I saw, you know, Javon Baker caught that touchdown
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: yesterday and he launched the ball into the sky.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 9: Did that bother you guys? I?
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: I didn't really. I saw Mike kind of like that
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: would bother you because you didn't like digs.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 8: I don't want to.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: Between launching it and the sky or spiking, because.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 7: The launching in this guy is considered like a delay
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 7: of game kind of taunting to come down apparently. But
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 7: gravity I don't. I don't make it's I don't. I
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 7: don't make the rules. I don't like the rules. I
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 7: like fun. You guys don't. I like fun. I like celebrations,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 7: So I have no problem with what Javon Baker did.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: I have no problem.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 7: There's definitely it's better. Actually, Sean Hoculey's crew was here yesterday.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 7: That would be something I think would be.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: If you spike the ball, it can go anywhere.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 7: It doesn't go anywhere near where the ball went. When
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 7: Javon Baker threw it yesterday, I'm.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: Pretty sure one of the linemen caught it running over.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 7: Over shoulder, Yeah, which was kind of I have no
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 7: problem with that, you guys, I mean, I'm being dead serious,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 7: I have no I like celebrations. I like I kind
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 7: of like taunting. I think it's fun.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: I've seen guys launching into the stands. They don't get penalized.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 7: Oh yes you do.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: That's a fine.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: Afterwards, but not during the game. It's not a penalty.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 7: I believe it is.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: I don't think so.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 10: I think if it wasn't Javon too, and it was
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 10: someone maybe more established, people wouldn't have as big of
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 10: an issue with it.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 7: I don't think they were.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 9: I didn't a lot of issue with I just I
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 9: think somebody issue.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 7: It's like when the defense picks off a pass and
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 7: went down in the end zone, they take a picture
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 7: of that's not here not do not care for that.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: Although I will say I like it all in the
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: in stadium practice, I liked the little choreographed, little little
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 6: conga line that going.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: I didn't like that that.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: I like it all. I think it's fun. I think
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 7: the game it's a game and it should be fun.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 9: I wasn't.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: I wasn't bring it up, you know, joking aside like that.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: It didn't really in the moment bother me. But then
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: you know, I saw some some stuff online of people
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: talking about it, and then I just was bringing up
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: for discussion because I'm like, is this what he needs?
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 9: Like you know what I mean? Does he need to
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 9: be like I need to really be on the straight
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 9: and narrow right now?
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: Because even in O t A S there was that
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: you know moment where he caught a ball and he
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: kind of jogged back and Rabel was like, let's go,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: you know, was on top of him.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 7: That's different. This was a touchdown, right, yeah, So I
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 7: have no problem with it a touchdown.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: To celebrate their touchdowns.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I just come up with.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: A different celebration. That's not a penalty.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 7: Again, I don't know they didn't. I don't think anybody
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 7: threw a flag yesterday, so there were officials here. So
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 7: if they didn't flag it, maybe it's not a penalty.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: Maybe maybe friends, somebody who's a little bit on double
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: secret probation and you.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 7: Know, you just not maybe not.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 10: Like if it was someone that was more established, not
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 10: trying to make the MAC again, maybe it was just
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 10: like that release of emotion for him and he's happy
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 10: to make a play.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: There's a lot on the line for him.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: So if you had to, if you had, if you
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: had to pick, it would because of his uniqueness in
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: the room. Like I feel like if they were to
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: keep a Chisholm or a Pole, I just don't see
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: a path to that player having a role. Whereas with
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: Jaymon Baker, you could make the case that if Booty's
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: not really having a great season or it doesn't go
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: well for Booty for and I'm not saying it won't,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: but just for whatever reason, he gets hurt something like
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: I could see Javon Baker playing the X and like
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: being out there, whereas with Jalen Polk, he's behind Digs,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: he's behind Pop, he's probably behind Kyle Williams for a role,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: like there's there's just bodies in front of him, and
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: that's not even counting if Kendrick Bourne is here. So like,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: it's just it's harder for me to envision a role
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: for Polk and for Chisholm because they're redundant to some
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: of the other guys they have on the team.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: Baker isn't well, why do softball? Why is it played
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: on all dirt infields? And baseball has some grass?
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 9: I don't know what they what do they call it softball?
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: The ball is just as hard as it's a little softer,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: a little bit softer. But is it so soft that
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: you can just well, there's white softballs and there's yellow softballs.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: Did you know that?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 9: And there's a difference between how hard they are.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 19: Yeah, according to the Google, it allows the ball to
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 19: travel faster and makes the game more offensive.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: I okay, I can see that the grass would slow
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: down the big softball. Okay, all right, I can see that.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: Thank you for that. Let's go to the hot line.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: Who John and Haveril? What's up John?
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 7: John?
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: There you go?
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 11: Talk?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 14: So I have to say one two days school, just
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 14: get out.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: Of something summer summer Fred, Okay, but go ahead, John,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 21: Yeah, a top five cornerback in my opinion.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 7: Let's go.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 6: I would agree, play your flag, John Boom.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 7: I think he finished.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 11: Okay, I love it.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 7: I think they had a poll back and all that
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 7: stuff on the SPN and he was sixth and that.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 7: So yeah, Top five just called it and waited just
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 7: to say, just to get the younger Fred. I know, well,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 7: it's unbelievable.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: I think John was just the best call I ever
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: heard on Felgar's show. Was the guy calls and he goes, Hi,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: it's Bob, first time, long time. I'll hang up and listen.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 9: That's good.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 7: Poor bar.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: Yesterday, I'm getting attacked about like just joint practices, like
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: he just flnger just yelled.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 7: Well that's what he's It was like who are you
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 7: yelling at? Like why are you so angry?
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: And he was on a rant yesterday that one of
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: the best products the Patriots have had was this joint practice,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: which is absolutely free and then you have the preseason,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: which is a dog that you have to pay, you know,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: so what are you gonna do?
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 7: But like but like, no, how do you fix it?
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 8: Mike?
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 5: I feel like everybody understands his thinking there, but he's
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: like yelling at me, like I'm disagreeing with him or
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 5: like his other big take was was that like it's
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: all you know, basically, it's all on Drake May. If
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: Drake May is good, the Patriots will be good. If
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, we.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 7: We know, Like how do you argue that it's going
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 7: to be awfully hard to be a really good team
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 7: if your quarterback is bad?
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 7: How do you argue with that point of view?
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 9: Is like, well, I have the times on the paying
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 9: times on the punts.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 10: If you want it, Mike, you should run an experiment
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 10: with Barth where we get his like blood pressure metrics.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: Before and immediately after the show, they.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: Were talking about like who would you you rather have
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: for the next like if you're drafting Jayden Daniels or
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: or Drake May, and like they're like he's grilling bars
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: like give me an answer, give me an answer. And
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: I was like he's trying to talk and you just
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: get Hilton.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 7: Adam, he's a bully.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: Bully.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 6: I just tell you, you know I spend I want
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 6: Barth pressure during like you know punts. I want it
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: during attendance at practice.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 9: I want pressure, want pressure show.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: The whole time and intervals track them.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: I still think we gotta have a electric football game
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: between Evan and Barth, and we should have steaks. So
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: like win you win. If you win, you get one
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: hundred dollars gift certificate to Jersey Mike. If Bart wins,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: he gets something college football.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: Or something, you know, match Maker series.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: So if you're talking, you're talking about Madden right like
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: electric No no, no, no, no no.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about the little guys on the I don't think.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 9: Every magnetic chaos that has you turn it on?
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: And do you know I've got one in my office.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: I've seen this in your Office's like that's the first
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: time I've ever seen.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 7: Have you ever had an old AFL NFL one?
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: Have you ever done it?
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: I don't think.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: I think the two that is this like.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 7: Hockey game is actually excell So this.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: Is an electric this is it's a playing field, it's
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: metal and these are little plastic guys with treads and
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: you set up your offense and you set up your
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: defense on it, and then you turn the switch and the.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 7: Boards starts rates and it causes the players and.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 6: The players move, but not in the position you want
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 6: them to. Why you would hate I set them up
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 6: and cover two and then ever.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 7: Charges I just perfectly designed the annexation of Puerto Rico
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 7: and they went.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: Every player just goes like little treads are supposed to
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: be positioned in the in the direction you want the
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: guy to usually go, yeah, you get guys on the sideline.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: So this was a bit that me, me and FITZI
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 6: used to do in one of our shows that we
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 6: did before we worked here. We would do we would
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: take like a key pave play from the game and
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: we would like Evan style, set it all up so
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: like it was literally look pre.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 9: Snap and I'm like and now you know, and then
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 9: we'd subscribe it what happened?
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 6: Why I was playing all right, let's just let the
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: board on roll and see how the play went, and
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 6: then it would just be total chaos and nothing that
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: we talked about happened would happen.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: That's why it would be so fun.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 9: Where are you going, bro?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 7: Where are you going you run a post you're on
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 7: the post man.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 9: It's just going to the sideline and then falls over.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: I think we do that during a catch twenty two.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: One of the catch twenty two is we'll do that.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 9: I know, I got one in my artist I got
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 9: one in my house too. We have the artifact to
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 9: buy it for the segment.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 19: You know.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 9: I was during the T shirt days I had money to.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 7: Burn, thought that well, I wrote it off.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, Madden has new uh intros into the game
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: now for night games. If you have a primetime game,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: it has like this whole little animation that it does
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: and uh it has the Keeper of the Light has
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: the ringing the bell, and it's Gronk Gronk up on
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: the top of the lighthouse doing his Gronk thing where
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 5: he's like things and stuff, and it like kind of
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: looks like Gronk, but like not really. But Bart tweeted
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: it out and was like, you can even have Gronk
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 5: through it, and everybody's like, yeah, it's that's Gronk. He's
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: in the video and and but it I thought the
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: same thing, Yeah, get paid for that. Probably it's just
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: his likeness, Like yeah, they mean it just enough.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: Like him, but not.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 5: It's not great. Like I feel like when Gronk was
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: actually in the game, like as a player, he looked
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: more like Gronk than he does in the animation.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: But Cody's in New Hampshire. Hey Cody, my first time,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: the first time.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I just wanted to say, I am a lot
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 21: of props. The's like fourteen year fourteen year olds calling
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 21: him because kind of nervous talking to you guys, do
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 21: it like you recently? But anyway, quick question on U
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 21: on Booty, does it feel like he's.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 20: Kind of becoming a lock?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 21: I know he's like not very like exciting one of
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 21: the up and coming receivers, but it's like last year
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 21: and his confidence building with Trick May, it just feels
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 21: like he's kind of important.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: Yep, he's a lot I think you think so yeah,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: always a lock.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah ye.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: But I still look at that spot though, and like
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 5: think that they could upgrade it, like not to go
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: pick on Booty, like eventually he's like he's a fine players.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: But you know, Douglas and Diggs, I think I really like,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: you know the X spot.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: I'm so old, right, and I see that as like
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: you're gonna get a little mc collins there, you're gonna
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: get hopefully little Kyle Williams there, and then maybe eventually
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: one of.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 9: Those guys really emerges to be the threat that they need.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 9: But yeah, he's a lot baby.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: All right, Thanks Cody, U go down to Pennsylvania, Joe,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: what's up?
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 7: Joe?
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 20: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call of the show. Uh,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 20: this would probably be like a lot for Evans just
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 20: for their some number stuff I have, but everybody get
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 20: everybody's opinion, But just about the cap and like cutting
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 20: some guys and even some cat for next year, and
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 20: just looking at over the cap, like we're fifteen MILLI
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 20: under the cat for next year. I know we're sitting
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 20: at like sixty right now, but looking at guys like
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 20: Kendrick Bourn, we could save six point three million by
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 20: cutting up. I love Born, but that's six point three
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 20: million we could save. And here's four guys we to
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 20: save fifteen million on by cutting Born, to Buy Low
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 20: and Jennings we could save nearly fifteen million there, Like
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 20: Low is like three point four million, to Buy is
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 20: like two million, and Jennings is like three million. So
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 20: that's good money we could save by cutting those those
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 20: guys don't seem like they have a big role this year. Ways,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 20: but then also too going even going forward to next year,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 20: and like just with Vrabel and like his front office,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 20: how is he going to view a Whinning's contract, Dougars
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 20: contract and Barmore's contract because they're all in like big
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 20: they all have big outs for next year, and especially
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 20: with US, uh, just where we're at cap white next
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 20: year and those big outs, where do you think that
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 20: they'll view those players? But then also to two other.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 7: Side, can I ask you something before you continue, Joe,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 7: what are you projecting the cap at next year that
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 7: you have them only fifteen million under the cap? They're
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 7: fifteen million under the current cap.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 20: Oh yeah, I'm not taking into all those accounts too.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 20: But then right, we gotta like sign, we gotta sign
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 20: the draft.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 7: I have no problem, no, but like the cap is
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 7: going to rise, Like.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 20: Oh yeah, I know that, but I'm just looking at
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 20: over the.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 7: Cap just yeah, you don't have to. I mean, I
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 7: just think you're you're spending a lot of time worrying
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 7: about things that I don't think are overly important, Like
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 7: the cap is not an issue for really any team,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 7: Like the cap is so big now and it's growing
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 7: so much every year. Like the bigger thing that I
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 7: think that you're that you hit on that I that
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 7: I really think might be something that they're thinking about
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 7: is guys like Kyle Dugert and mikel Wentu for next year.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 7: These are guys that signed big money extensions under a
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 7: previous regime, and in general terms, those are guys that
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 7: need to be sort of on alert, and I think
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 7: it's a big year for both of those guys. They
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 7: need to play well. Barmore I don't think is going anywhere.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 7: I think Barbo is one of the five best players
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 7: in the team. I don't think he's going anywhere unless
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 7: something happens with you. No, yeah he didn't. You just
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 7: sign one so yeah four year. Yeah. So I think
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 7: I don't worry. If you can do whatever you want
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 7: with your thoughts about the CAP, I wouldn't really worry
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 7: about the cap. I don't think cap is a problem
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 7: or anybody like. I don't think you need to worry
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 7: about that number because the CAP number is too big.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 7: Like maybe maybe you do something to lower the number
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 7: in the but you know, I don't. I just don't
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 7: think it's all that important. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: How exactly over the cap like calculates their their numbers
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: with rollover because like the Patriots right now are sixty
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 5: million dollars under the current salary cap.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 7: And they spent the most money in an offseason in
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 7: NFL history right now, they tells you about the cap.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: They have expenditures over the over the course of the
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: regular season, that are their effective caps pace with the
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 5: cap space we project that they're going to roll over
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: is about thirty five million dollars, So if you really
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: look at it, that's rolling it over into next year.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: And then to Paul's point, the cap is going to
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: rise because it's always rising. So let's say it rises
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: by another ten million, that's really rolling over forty five
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: million dollars in cap space. So their cap is they
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: have all the money in the world if you even
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: if you just say that we're going to spend to
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 5: the cap and they're not going to go over the cap, like,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 5: they still have plenty of cap space to play with,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: Like they shouldn't if they want to cut like and
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: move on from like a tabay Ra Jennings because they're
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 5: not fits and they're not like I would agree with
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 5: all for those guys, but that's that's totally a valid
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: thing to say.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 7: They're not doing it because of the salary cap.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: To Paul's point, Thanks Joe, appreciate the car.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, Tava's the only one out of those four
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 7: guys that he mentioned that I can say, well, maybe
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 7: he's the starter next to Spolene, but he's been hurt
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 7: and we've seen Christian Ellis.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 9: I was going to say, I don't think.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 9: Heap is a little bit of a question mark for me,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 9: and it could go either way.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 6: It could be he doesn't fit or he's actually a
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 6: great versatile, big bodied option to put next to Splene.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 6: You know, we can still use ls a little bit,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 6: but that's one thing I would still hold out for.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 6: But you know, just real quick looking at the roster,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 6: you know, next year, and I mean this is all
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 6: why are we doing it?
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 9: Because we're getting ready for a season.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 6: But I mean there's not a lot of like glaring
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 6: holes right now of like well they're going to mean
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 6: they probably gonna have have to figure out Christian Gonzalez
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 6: at some point. I mean, that would be a nice
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 6: big piece that they could take care of, But I mean,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 6: for the most part what we've seen from the starters
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 6: out there this year, all these guys are kind of
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 6: back next year.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 7: So you know, it's not like you're right about Gonzales
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 7: and what just happened with Stingley and Sauce, Like those
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 7: are the guys that came up signed big money deals
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 7: after the third year, right in Sauce's case, So you're
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 7: going to be after year three for Gonzales, my guess
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 7: would be that him and his representatives are going to
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 7: be looking to do the same thing. Now it's going
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 7: to cost you a lot of money.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 5: Well yes and no, because it will be an extension
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 5: on his rookie contract. So if you sign him next offseason,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: after his third season in the league, when he's eligible,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 5: he's still going to be playing in twenty six on
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 5: the fourth year of his rookie contract.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 7: Which is why I don't worry about the cat.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: And then you get extension eligible after that.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: But good to that point, Like what the Cowboys are
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: having right now with Micah Parsons is because.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 7: They've waited because they don't do it the right way.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: So if you're the Patriot, the Micah Parsons thing is like, hey,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: what's the word like cautioned into the wind, thank you,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: cautionary tale of like, don't do that right with Christian
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: Gonzalez when he's contract eligible, extension eligible next offseason, lock
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 5: him in immediately and don't get into this whole dance
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 5: of you know, end of the year of his rookie
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 5: contract like the Cowboys have with Parsons, because like I
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 5: think the tough talk part for teams and like owners
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: like Jerry Jones is like, you have the fifth year
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: option on a first round pick and then you have
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: the franchise tag in your back pocket too. So like
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 5: really for a team like Dallas, they're looking at it
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 5: and saying, well, we have two year more years of
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 5: team control on Michael Parsons, So like, why are we
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: baking the bank, breaking the bank right now to extend MICHAEH.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: Parsons when we have the leverage like he's under contract,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 5: we have the fifth year option, and we have the
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: franchise tag. So this is a three years from now.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: Problem with Michael Parsons was.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: You know, wait three years and it's it's gonna cost more,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: But I can understand.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 7: You know, they did the same thing last year and
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 7: then they finally gave him the contract. But they that's
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 7: the way Dallas has been doing it. They dragged their feet,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 7: and I think it costs some money in the long run.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 6: Quick, I mean, just a quick look at the free
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: agents next year. Do Austin Hooper, you know, t E
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 6: two probably a position of long term need. Chase On's
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: had a good camp, he's been hurt. Marcus Jones really
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 6: the only starter I would say of the free agents
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 6: next year. I mean, Alex Austin's a restrictive free agent,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 6: but you know, Cold Strange, Tonga, Epps, Hawkins, Gibbons, Low.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 9: It's a lot of depth pieces.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 7: So like we talked about Low, by the way, that
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 7: was one of his four. Those four, Yeah, I think
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 7: they might be something. Some of these things, like he said,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 7: like I don't I don't feel great about the backup tackle, right.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 6: You don't need to really plan it out. I mean,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 6: I think a lot of these things will take care
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 6: of itself at cutdown day. And it's not about well,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 6: let's just cut them for money. I mean a lot
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 6: of these guys are are on the bubble anyway.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 7: As it is, We'll just say, and I am starting
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 7: to get a little intrigued by Marcus Bryant and I
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 7: was colon in those things, So maybe maybe he would
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 7: make a guy like low expendable.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 9: It seems like more guys. I don't know how to
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 9: say this.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 6: I just like seeing guys improve, and I think he's
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 6: a great example of somebody who you see get more
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 6: reps and you start to clock a little bit more.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 6: We talk about it all the time, and it's at
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 6: a position need now, is it because he's playing great
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: or because they're like, it's because it's.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 8: Not that, you know? Is it?
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 6: Is it about We're an import in a storm right now.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 6: We're trying to figure out, you know, if we get
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 6: this guy possibly ready to play.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 5: It the only a salary cap related thing that's like
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 5: somewhat on my mind because I'm a nerd and think
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: about these things. At some point, we're going to have
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 5: to talk seriously about a Drake May extension. And when
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: that happens, he's going to be a sixty million dollars
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: a year quarterback.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 7: But that's two years.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 5: It's two years.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 9: But it's just like Gonzo next year.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 5: When it comes to we all know, money in and
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 5: money out. We're having that conversation like sooner than you
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: think end of next season, yeah right.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 7: And when that next season, yeah right, when his extension
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 7: three years in.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when his extension kicks in and he's now a
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: sixty million dollars a year quarterback, then some of this
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: stuff does start to matter, like how you spend around
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 5: that quarterback contract. Now you have the quarterback, so that's
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 5: obviously a huge bonus. But even like Kansas City has
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: made moves like trading Tyreek Hill too because they're cheap, possibly,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 5: but we know that that's that's how the world works,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: so like when we get into that territory, that's a difference.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 8: By the way.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: Congratulations Roman Anthony, I love it for a long time. Yep.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 4: Red Sox building for the future.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 7: You congratulate John Henry. It's a tremendous contract for the
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 7: Red Sox. That's tremendous for both to get that guy
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 7: for one hundred and thirty million. Were you surprised he
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 7: was willing to pay, especially when in spring training he
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 7: was not willing to play ball. And the only thing
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 7: that has changed since spring training is he's proven to
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 7: be legit.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 9: Right, right, more money.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 7: I was completely stunned that he took that deal. Good,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 7: good for him, great for the Reds.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 9: At some point, it feels just sounds like so money
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 9: and much money. You're like, well, you should really be
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 9: hold well, I.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 7: Think that's played a year of the year. He would
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 7: have gotten a lot more than that.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: Right, This is a twenty two to twenty three year
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 5: old kid that just got handed a check for one
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 5: hundred million dollars. Right, it's pretty hard to say.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna hold out for ye like one hundred million
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: dollars priority A right for him? Good kid, good kid,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: quick rights in could tomorrow also be a wide receiver
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: showcase if the Patriots show a lot of born Pope,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: Baker or Booty to give Washington some looks of possible
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: trade candidates.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, I mean I would protect Tiggs. I think
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 6: he saw enough of him yesterday. I probably protect Pop too.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 6: I've seen enough of him. I don't really think, but
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 6: I think as far as Polk and Baker and Chisholm go.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 7: I can see those guys guys plenty.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I think you'll see a lot of those guys. Yeah.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: I worry about from the other direction, of like if
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 5: Afton Chisholm has one of those precs like in Austin,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 5: get squad now cool.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 13: Great.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: I think that some of that's overrated. I know that's
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: what Paul's about to.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 7: Say, but no, I'm not. I was actually gonna button
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 7: hook you. Let me, let me throw this one at you.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 7: You know me, I'm always thinking about stupid stuff that
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 7: really doesn't matter at all, Like made his extension three
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 7: years or they just brought back an old friend Jamichael
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 7: Hasty Michael right, So he's kind of, you know, the
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 7: smaller pass catching kind of back. There's a couple of
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 7: ways to look at this, like do they just want
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 7: Hasty to go out there? He's not really part of
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 7: the plan. I would thank you sign a guy halfway
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 7: through training camp in preseason handle, give him, give him
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 7: they maybe that you do not want give him the touches.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 7: Maybe you do not want land Larison to get language.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 7: That's just something I was thinking about when I was today,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 7: Like that's that's a bill would do that, right. So
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 7: we know we kind of like this guy. We don't
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 7: have a spot for him on the roster. We're gonna
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 7: put him on the practice squad. So we don't want
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 7: him to go out there and put up ninety yards
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 7: of total offense and some meaningless preseason game and get
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 7: on the radar from everybody. Yeah. Yeah, so let's bring
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 7: in Jamichael Hasty to get all those yards.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 9: Welcome back, here's eighty carres three weeks and you'll be.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 4: Back not checking that.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 7: That would be one of those that's stupid.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 5: No, that would be one of those like three D
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 5: Chess things back in the Dynasty where we would be like,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: Bill's just so much smarter than everybody else, you know,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 5: look at what he's doing, and then like it would
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: be like Taylor, I'm.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 7: Gonna fully go to the other side because I want
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 7: to acknowledge there's another side of the possibilities and that
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 7: they haven't been overly impressed with land Larison and they're
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 7: looking for some ad depth at one of these little scatbacks,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 7: and they know Hasty is an NFL player. Ish, Yeah,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 7: maybe they bring him in and see if they can
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 7: get him up to speed. And he feels like this
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 7: secondary role as like a backup pass catcher.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 9: What about Terrel Jennings earl guy from US Shames, I.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: Feel like I think he's still in the mix. I
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 5: feel like feeding Terrell Jennings the rock in the preseason.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: This definitely happened. That's a second half of the Preseasonterrell Jennings.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 7: I'll be saying, yeah, believe me, I'll be saying that
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 7: Mike do So, Paul Perillo or fan favorites of Cearrel
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 7: Jennings at some.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 5: Point among property on Terrell Jennings.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 7: Island correct, Curtis and Lewis your little phrases though.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: Curtis and Saint Louis. There's been a lot of talk
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: recently about how the Patriots should be on the phones
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: trying to trade for Michael Parsons. Nick Cattle's says it's
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 4: a no brainer, Chris can't have ESPN says they should
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 4: be the front runners in the pursuit, and many others
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 4: preaching this move would make them play of contenders. I
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: personally disagree. One, I do not believe he's going anywhere.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 4: Although I can't stand Jerry Jones, He's not a dummy. Dude,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: knows what he's doing. Prs PR.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 7: Secondly, so you don't disagree, you don't think he's going
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 7: to get traded. That's what he said, Yeah, right, doesn't
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 7: disagree with first thing, that the Patriots should be interested
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 7: in MIKEAEH. Parsons. Secondly, my first reason is he's not
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 7: going to get traded.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 4: Secondly, what would it take in a trade to acquire him?
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 4: I feel it would be way too rich for this
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: current Patriots team. I look at the Khalil Matc trade
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 4: to Chicago as reference. I wanted to know where you
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: guys stand on Parsons.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it'd take two first round packs.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 7: I need to know what the compensation is, but.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: I think it would take two first round picks.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 7: I don't know why you wouldn't be interested in that.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: Would you give up to my first round?
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 7: Probably really for a defensive stud in his prime. Talk
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 7: about Mike's side of the ball getting to the point
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 7: where they're just about dominant.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 9: Well, you know it's hard.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: I like, I love that player, and he would change
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 6: the whole dynamic of everything. You know, But there's also
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 6: just this weird part of me that likes, you know,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 6: doing it the old fashioned way and building break.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 4: One of the reasons why you keep that first round
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: pick is that reason? Stud? Yeah, okay, so spend the
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: first round pick on a stud?
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 11: Got it?
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 6: This is the book that's using the first round pick
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 6: on so does But then does that mean Christian zaliz
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 6: walks next to the season Why?
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 7: Why does it mean that?
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 9: Because you live in a place where just you got
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 9: the money, just spend it. Spend it, spend it, spend it,
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 9: spend it.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 6: Like you know, you think there's a certain point where
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 6: they're like Parsons, do they though?
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 7: I mean like they do the actual just one good
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 7: player on a high, Like they're like Jamar Chase and
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 7: Joe Burrow make a lot of money.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 5: It's possible, you know that, Like like T Higgins, like
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 5: he's not going to be in Cincinnati for the life
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: of that entire contract.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 7: No, but I'm just saying, you can do it as
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 7: long as you want to. Sure, but like if you
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 7: don't want it, you don't want to. Mike might be right,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 7: they might not want.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 5: This guy is a good example because like they just
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 5: gave T Higgins that extension. I don't believe that he's
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: going to finish that extension.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 7: But do you believe that Chase and Joe Burrow? Sure,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 7: but well that's all we're talking about is two. We
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 7: don't need three.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: But then T Higgins, we'll see what happens during his extension.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson's is still holding out again.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 7: But we're not talking about multiple, which is talking about
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 7: just two more than one, is I guess multiple, but
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 7: not several, just two Micah Parsons and Christian Gonzales and May.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 5: Christian Years and Christian Barmore and Milton Williams.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 7: That's not that kind of money.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 5: It's not not any money.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 7: This is I think Mike's point is you're gonna have
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 7: to make Micah Parsons the highest paid defensive player in
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 7: football forty million right year. Yeah, that to me is
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 7: different than yeah, you know, twenty six million guaranteed. Yeah, yeah, no,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 7: you're right, you know, like that's a different animal.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 6: He can't argue with talent. I mean, that's ultimately what
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 6: just appeals to you. You want to watch those guys,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 6: those I mean, Michael Parsons is just I mean I
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 6: remember like the early mock drafts who were all like, yeah,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 6: Michael Parsons at fourteenth the Patriots, I remember doing that
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: almost cut there, you know, I know it's taken him
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 6: in a blank.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 5: I think they would have I think they would have
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 5: run the car up there, like that's what all the
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: reporting has been since that draft is that if Michah
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: Parsons is on the board, Bill is taking Michaeh Parsons
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 5: and not mac gill, it would have been Micah Parsons
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 5: and Davis Mills like that. That would have been Now.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 7: I agree, he's probably not going to get traded, you know,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 7: but it's funny. It's fun to just sort of throw
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 7: it off, and.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 10: It's not like it's arbitrary, like it would fulfill a
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 10: need in the coming years. We've said how many times
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 10: on this show that linebacker is sneaky a thing we
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 10: need to look at next season and if not free agency.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 7: He's just a really good player. He can make a
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 7: case he's the best defensive player in football. That's what
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 7: he's going to make that case. Yeah, he's gonna he's
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 7: going to exceed those contracts, right, I would think so.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 7: And he's in his prime. It's not like like the
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 7: Terry McLaurin stuff that we've been talking about forever.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 7: I can understand some people being reticent because he's thirty
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 7: and you know, you want to give him big money
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 7: at thirty. He's going to have to come down from
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 7: that number.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the coolest thing about Michael Parsons to
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 5: me is how versatile he is, like Miles Garrett. Awesome,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, But when as over the left
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 5: tackle and rushes to quarterback, which there's nothing wrong with.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 7: When he was on the trade block there for for
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 7: a minute, you know, I was in on that.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's an absolute alien. But like Michael Parsons is
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: outside pass rush, you can find him up over the
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 5: center where he just demolishes centers. He can play him
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 5: off the ball like he's just gone. He's a he's
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: a great player.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 7: Crystables. Okay, micah uh, let's go to California.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: Jeff's on the phone, Hey Jeff, you guys journey.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 8: Yes, okay, I got a few things here.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 20: First of all, my one concern is that at my means,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 20: do you think there's a chance they can pick somebody
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 20: else when I start that's what happened to him?
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 8: Did you hurt?
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 20: No?
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 7: No, No, he's out there. He's been out there every day.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 20: You can get him to the practice pot.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think you can getisis what do you think?
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 7: Think you have any problem with either one? I think
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 7: unless like something happens in the preseason and all of
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 7: a sudden, yet like twelve catches.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, chism is uh, chism looks great like in one
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 5: on ones and seven on seven and route on it
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 5: on air and they get into the eleven on elevens
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 5: and I don't feel like I write his name down tone.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah, So like.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 7: That hasn't gotten many opportunities with the front line guys.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 9: Oh no, no, no, say it was point two with
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 9: heat saying tackles about hitting them up. I mean they
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 9: did last year. I mean that's what But that's what
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 9: you're gonna get.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 7: Like, so I'm not going to tell you you can't
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 7: pick up linemen that are going to become available, but
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 7: that's the caliber of lineman that's going to become available.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 7: Everybody needs lineman.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: I think Williams, your tackles are better now than the
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: guys that you could pick up on the waiver wire.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 7: Right, But you know my point, like you, you more
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 7: than anybody, hammer home the fact that everybody is looking
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 7: for linemen. Yeah, so when they're releasing their alignment, they're
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 7: not going to be upgrades for you.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 5: Could there be a center if you have two starting
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 5: caliber tackles that you feel really good about you're already
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 5: ahead of like half the league.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 7: But do you think there's going to be a center
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 7: better than Jared Wilson.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 9: Well, I don't know. I mean, I mean, just maybe
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 9: better than Garret Bradberry.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 7: Maybe Ben. Oh, no way you're gonna get it. You're
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 7: not gonna get a starting caliber player.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 9: Ben Brown was the I'm just balling here exactly.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 4: Pascal has a would you rather? He said, would you
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 4: rather Draco undefeated or however close to undefeated is necessary
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: for this exercise, and win the Super Bowl this year,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 4: then flame out and never make the playoffs again, or
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 4: make the playoffs every year for the next fifteen years,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 4: but never better than the three seed, and win the
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl the year he retires.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 7: The second one, the second one a decade, so he
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 7: has a great fifteen year career and has on average
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 7: the third seed in the AFC. And I was about
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  Speaker 7: to say, they tap it off by winning, Yeah, as
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  Speaker 7: opposed to one great year.
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  Speaker 4: Right, and then flam out and never make a playoffs.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll take b I'll take that.
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  Speaker 4: I like it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, another good one. Emails have been strong today, strong
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  Speaker 7: to quite.
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  Speaker 4: Stright, but it wasn't great because obvious well.
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  Speaker 7: That's for us, maybe not for him. Why do people
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  Speaker 7: have to think like you, Fred, because.
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  Speaker 8: We know the facts.
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  Speaker 7: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 4: We know the facts.
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  Speaker 7: It's a good point.
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  Speaker 4: And you know we were the originators of the great debate.
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  Speaker 7: That is true.
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  Speaker 4: Also, Yeah, Santo was worried about injuries, and the old
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  Speaker 4: days risk was less because next man up mentality worked
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  Speaker 4: because there were few drop offs and talent. Patriots do
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  Speaker 4: not have that backup talent. So if there are a
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  Speaker 4: few injuries this year, I could see ten wins. If
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  Speaker 4: the injuries are numerous, I could not see them winning
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  Speaker 4: more than six games.
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  Speaker 7: Great unknown the injuries obviously hurt. I do have more
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  Speaker 7: faith in Vrabel and his staff to overcome. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 7: way that Bill did, I don't think. I think there
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  Speaker 7: was a big gap a lot of times between the
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  Speaker 7: guys that got hurt and the guys that Bill plugged in.
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  Speaker 7: But they were able to sort of scheme around it
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  Speaker 7: a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: I remember, and it might have been seventeen the Mexico
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  Speaker 5: City game against the Raiders and they had to play
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  Speaker 5: a backup tackle and it's escaping me. If it was
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  Speaker 5: like well the Ladrian Wattle or like Cam Fleming. It
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  Speaker 5: was like one of those guys and they were facing
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  Speaker 5: Khalil Mack with the Raiders, and Kalil Mack like you
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  Speaker 5: didn't even hear it, get his name called.
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  Speaker 18: The entire game, and it was like they just decide,
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  Speaker 18: you know, that was Bill Brady. Black guy's not going
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  Speaker 18: to ruin the game, right, Four guys out on round,
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  Speaker 18: and I have faith that this coaching staff can do
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  Speaker 18: similar stuff. I'm not saying they were as good as
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  Speaker 18: Bill in his prime before that guy that yelled at
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  Speaker 18: me for suggesting that Bill wasn't that good couple of
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  Speaker 18: weeks ago. I'm not suggesting these guys will do it
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  Speaker 18: better than Bill, but I think there's more of that
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  Speaker 18: kind of a mentality that you know, Josh McDaniels isn't
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  Speaker 18: gonna watch Will Campbell give up two sacks in the
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  Speaker 18: first quarter and just say, well, we're block him better. No,
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  Speaker 18: he's gonna start putting the tight ends over there, he's
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 18: gonna chip, he's gonna do different things.
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  Speaker 5: An of times that I heard last year, I'm putting
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  Speaker 5: the jive guys into the pattern, like only have works
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 5: if you put five guys in the pattern, if you
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  Speaker 5: can throw the ball and the quarterback's.
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  Speaker 7: Not on his butt after two and a half, Josh
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  Speaker 7: won't bang his head into a wall and just allow
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  Speaker 7: his quarterback to get killed.
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  Speaker 4: All right, killed, that's gonna be it.
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  Speaker 7: Change.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah okay, So how about if.
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  Speaker 3: They can about the show?
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  Speaker 7: How about if they send in a question that I
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  Speaker 7: don't get the answer to the like we have to
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  Speaker 7: have some parameters there, like I don't need like how
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  Speaker 7: many receiving yards in his career did Troy Brown have?
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  Speaker 16: Like?
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  Speaker 7: And I would have to come up with the exact hotal,
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  Speaker 7: Fred didn't like that. I thought you'd like that.
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  Speaker 4: That's okay, Stump, Paul.
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  Speaker 7: Stump, the moron.
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